Speaker 1: I'm moving. I'm moving, and a lot of people have moved.
Speaker 1: I'm not the only person who ever moved. I have resources, etc.
Speaker 1: But the impetus of the move is immediate. I am
Speaker 1: a person at the minute. There's like a disaster. And
Speaker 1: that's why I can like activate and get into high
Speaker 1: gear and move mountains and raise tens of millions of dollars. Okay,
Speaker 1: but the problem is, I'm good for it. It's not
Speaker 1: good for me. Is to produce events. I was good
Speaker 1: for it, it wasn't good for me. I can't leave
Speaker 1: one detail undetailed. I can't know it's not all finished.
Speaker 1: I lay down to sleep in a place. Everyone around
Speaker 1: me has to understand that there is not a fucking
Speaker 1: corn husk prong thing in it. To eat corn if
Speaker 1: you want to like meaning, it has to be a
Speaker 1: fully stocked universe and everything has to be perfect. And
Speaker 1: it's a problem. And I'm not saying it's good. It's
Speaker 1: not changing. We are fucking too far into this thing.
Speaker 1: We are the horses left the barn. We are pot committed,
Speaker 1: and we just that toothpaste is not going back in
Speaker 1: that fucking tube.
Speaker 2: So wah.
Speaker 1: I was in a relationship and I mean fucking hi.
Speaker 1: I was born at Long Island, Jewish in Queens, nearby
Speaker 1: stake Charlie's near the tennis stadium. Wow, there's a lot
Speaker 1: to say. I could tell you my whole life story.
Speaker 1: One day, I'll tell you why I'm not Jewish, not Catholic,
Speaker 1: not anything. My whole life is just being Ish. But
Speaker 1: here we are in this discussion, and I will tell
Speaker 1: you that I left the Housewives, was in a relationship,
Speaker 1: was in the sick sick apartment in New York City
Speaker 1: in Soho. The pandemic hit and that six sick apartment
Speaker 1: in Soho became less desirable at that time. So I
Speaker 1: ended up migrating out to the Hamptons. Don't forget, I
Speaker 1: have a daughter and did never all the time, ended
Speaker 1: up the pandemic, ended up cracking open something crazy and
Speaker 1: saving my life. And I just ended up in a
Speaker 1: different place than when the pandemic started, as it pertains
Speaker 1: to my daughter. And so I was in a relationship
Speaker 1: and it was long distance, but long close distance, which
Speaker 1: is almost worse than long long distance, because long close
Speaker 1: distance isn't that sexy, and like it's the travel isn't sexy,
Speaker 1: and you're just sort of like trying to figure it out.
Speaker 1: But it's still almost the same effort as getting on
Speaker 1: a plane to go somewhere like far distance, and it
Speaker 1: just it wasn't very ideal. And so as a dumb
Speaker 1: idea in fantasy lamb when we thought like find a
Speaker 1: place halfway or equidistant or close or whatever. I ended
Speaker 1: up moving to the suburbs during the pandemic. And what's
Speaker 1: funny is certainly my personal well being and health and
Speaker 1: love is more important than money. But by making this
Speaker 1: move to the suburbs and going out to Connecticut, I
Speaker 1: can say it now because I'm moving and it's no
Speaker 1: longer security risk. I ended up flipping three houses and
Speaker 1: making millions and millions of dollars in Connecticut, including the
Speaker 1: house that I bought. I am very good at real estate.
Speaker 1: Touching story, it doesn't matter. But I ended up moving
Speaker 1: to the suburbs and moving to Connecticut, to an area
Speaker 1: called Greenwich that is beautiful. It is then I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say this as I leave Greenwich in my house that
Speaker 1: I sold and made a big profit, rockets to the
Speaker 1: to the fucking to Saturn because of this sentence. But
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this. Greenwich is probably the nicest town
Speaker 1: in the United States of America. And I mean I've
Speaker 1: been Aspen and Palm Beach and Beverly Hills and bel Air,
Speaker 1: et cetera. Like Greenwich is not even a town. It's big,
Speaker 1: but it's like horses and property and old gorgeous stone
Speaker 1: walls that go on forever and gates and honestly, in
Speaker 1: the movies, it's like portrayed like Palm Beach, and there's
Speaker 1: an allure to it because of the name. It's actually
Speaker 1: pretty fucking chill. It's not like that, like there are
Speaker 1: people and there assholes everywhere, but it's like very nondescript,
Speaker 1: like Palm Beach is like dress in pastels. You're in
Speaker 1: a costume party every day, Like you're in the costume party,
Speaker 1: costplaying yourself, and you have of a billion dollars and
Speaker 1: you actually feel like you're a loser because you don't
Speaker 1: have five billion dollars. Like people are warped there, people
Speaker 1: are insane. It's a big flex and it's a big
Speaker 1: flex of a place that people pretend that they don't
Speaker 1: care about their like they play like it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: Money is the main thing that matters, and Greenwich is
Speaker 1: not like that. Okay, Aspen's like that, but it's also
Speaker 1: not like that. Aspen is highs and lows like down
Speaker 1: like Aspens, like the ski operators hanging out at like
Speaker 1: a tech billionaire's house. So it's got the texture, and
Speaker 1: Miami has that too. Miami can be like cheesy European
Speaker 1: South American international Dubai asshole, douchebag, flashy watch, tight black
Speaker 1: T shirt, but also like chic Argentine woman with her
Speaker 1: hair slicked back like a band of sole ad, et cetera.
Speaker 1: Palm Beach has one note. It's called money. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be the longest story in history. I'm not even getting
Speaker 1: close to it, so anyway, I And also like Nantucket
Speaker 1: is different. Nantucket's a little more like Aspen. Like you
Speaker 1: have like like probably fishermen, but like also like billionaires
Speaker 1: and like you know, you've got Dave Portnoy, like degenerate
Speaker 1: gambling in his basement and like the rich wasp bos
Speaker 1: from Palm Beach don't want him there, but he like
Speaker 1: probably gets along with some of the local people and
Speaker 1: like Boston people, they get off the ferry and like
Speaker 1: it's a mixed bag. It's just different. Okay, pom Beach
Speaker 1: doesn't really have a lot of lows. They export them
Speaker 1: at the end of the day of five o'clock, after
Speaker 1: the work's done. Okay, So I moved to Greenwich, and
Speaker 1: I think Greenwich is one of the nicest places in America,
Speaker 1: if not the it's just it's and also there's horses,
Speaker 1: and there is water and boating and you know, assholes
Speaker 1: and nice people. But there are like middle class people
Speaker 1: and Greenwich of people don't know about and it's bigger
Speaker 1: than people think. And I liked it. But I'm not
Speaker 1: from here and I'm not really from anywhere. But I
Speaker 1: don't have any connection and it's almost like you're playing
Speaker 1: double Dutch.
Speaker 2: You're trying to like jump in.
Speaker 1: And I could have any connection I want because I
Speaker 1: have access and I know people, and the few people
Speaker 1: that I do know here, every single one of them
Speaker 1: is like a name brand person. But I'm not, like
Speaker 1: I only have two really good friends here, a couple here,
Speaker 1: and like other than that, I'm not gonna just like
Speaker 1: start hanging out with people because I know them and
Speaker 1: because they're like name brand people.
Speaker 2: It's just not my personality. I like my people.
Speaker 1: I like the Hamptons, which also is extremely highs and
Speaker 1: lows too. It's extremely they call it bonic, which is
Speaker 1: like locals and fishermen and watermen and ocean rescue. And
Speaker 1: then also yes, there are billionaires that are like in
Speaker 1: Sagaponic and run major hedge funds and everything in between. Honestly,
Speaker 1: there's like a lot going on there too. But like
Speaker 1: I know the Hamptons, I've been going there since I'm twenty.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: I feel comfortable there, and there's a vibe there that,
Speaker 1: even in January when it's freezing, like you feel like
Speaker 1: you're on some version of a vacation. And Granwich is
Speaker 1: more like where you live. And I just didn't really immerse,
Speaker 1: and I just like, I'm familiar with the place I'm
Speaker 1: familiar with, and I love them. In addition, in flipping
Speaker 1: these houses, I ended up in this massive house, a compound,
Speaker 1: and it was a reaction to the first house I
Speaker 1: was in, which was a good, substantial house. But because
Speaker 1: of my business and because of this podcast, and because
Speaker 1: of the studio, and because of the shooting, and because
Speaker 1: you know, shooting social media shit, and because of people.
Speaker 2: Being around, I want people around. I need people around.
Speaker 1: But I don't actually want them around, so I need
Speaker 1: different spaces. And the place I ended up in had
Speaker 1: like a separate structure, which is like great, this would
Speaker 1: be a we work, which it became we call. It's
Speaker 1: literally called the we Work. This entertainment bar and this separate,
Speaker 1: separate structure that I created out of like a wood shop.
Speaker 1: These are all the things I do also to create value.
Speaker 1: The work was a shed. The entertainment barn is a
Speaker 1: shit like place where rakes were. But I'm very good
Speaker 1: at envisioning what things can be. That's just like my
Speaker 1: that's my gift in life, knowing seeing something and being
Speaker 1: able to see something nobody else sees.
Speaker 2: I'm really good at that.
Speaker 1: That's why I've been exceptional at personal real estate, and
Speaker 1: like the numbers are all live, I've done extremely well.
Speaker 2: So the entertainment barn.
Speaker 1: In britn and the movie screen in the bar, and
Speaker 1: I create all these fantasies that like don't end up
Speaker 1: happening for me. You know, this amazing gorgeous dining room
Speaker 1: in this landmark property that's from seventeen forty three, and
Speaker 1: it's historical and has original beams. So we're gonna take
Speaker 1: the original beams that I found in the attic, and
Speaker 1: we're going to put them under the stove, you know,
Speaker 1: the top of the stove and the ceiling of the
Speaker 1: kitchen and like all this vision right, and you don't
Speaker 1: know how you're actually gonna live. And like this gorgeous
Speaker 1: dining room that is original seventeen forty three, this has
Speaker 1: those only twenty people that have ever lived here.
Speaker 2: It's a landmark property. The governor lived.
Speaker 1: Here, and this relationship that I'm in, but like then
Speaker 1: everybody gets deal fatigue, and like I don't want to
Speaker 1: go there, and they don't want to come here, and
Speaker 1: like kids have their own activities and they're doing their
Speaker 1: own things on the weekend. So it's not the thing
Speaker 1: where you like took this house because you like thought
Speaker 1: everyone was gonna be frozen in time and live in
Speaker 1: the same house together, and like it never happened, and
Speaker 1: I never I did one. The only dinner I've ever
Speaker 1: done in that dining room was my team for like
Speaker 1: takeout Italian and my daughter and I Christmas Eve, and
Speaker 1: like it was beautiful that we did it, but it
Speaker 1: also felt sad. Like I used to say, like I'll
Speaker 1: one day be in a relationship where I'm gonna have
Speaker 1: like a dinner party here and have people over and
Speaker 1: someone's gonna come play the piano, and like it never happened,
Speaker 1: and it was kind of sad. I just didn't talk
Speaker 1: about it ever because there was nothing I could do
Speaker 1: about it. And I was in this big property with
Speaker 1: an addition, there was this apartment that I made if
Speaker 1: anybody was ever gonna live on the property, or if
Speaker 1: anybody ever needed to like sleep over because they drove
Speaker 1: too late, or an assistant we were doing HCN in
Speaker 1: the morning, and like there was this apartment under this
Speaker 1: three thousand foot cottage, and in my mind it was like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna shoot commercials there and like brand things there.
Speaker 1: But I ended up wanting to do it in my
Speaker 1: own space, in my own house, and I built a
Speaker 1: studio in my basement, and I was like the cat
Speaker 1: lady living on his fucking property. And it became Chicago
Speaker 1: O'Hare or Atlanta Airport. It became this hub where like
Speaker 1: I would be as a waiting place to go other
Speaker 1: places to go to snowboard and assmen to get out
Speaker 1: to the Hamptons to go somewhere do something, be on
Speaker 1: a vacation, but like I, it was suffocating me. At
Speaker 1: the same time, I started this social media life and
Speaker 1: brands were sending shit, And as I kept getting more
Speaker 1: and more shit, it found more places. Put it in
Speaker 1: the cottage, put it in the basement, put it in
Speaker 1: a studio, put it in the we work, give it
Speaker 1: to that person, put it in the Hampton's, put it
Speaker 1: in the city. And like I used to have this
Speaker 1: anxiety like this house is gonna kill me. And I
Speaker 1: am the opposite of a hoarder. I keep nothing just
Speaker 1: to tell you how much this house like enveloped me
Speaker 1: as just one person with a daughter who's here probably
Speaker 1: like three quarters of a time. And like I'm looking
Speaker 1: around it, like the light in the equipment, and I
Speaker 1: make everything cute. I can't help it. I make everything
Speaker 1: like perfect. I have heart shaped lights on the ceiling
Speaker 1: for the studio, and like I keep trying. But I've
Speaker 1: always been a person that likes small spaces in special places.
Speaker 1: So I left my gorgeous Soho apartment when I went
Speaker 1: to the Hampton's and I sold it for a massive profit,
Speaker 1: and I dipped back in because of my daughter and
Speaker 1: where she was in school at the time. And I
Speaker 1: bought a two bedroom apartment in New York City, like
Speaker 1: for when I do shoots in the city and like
Speaker 1: working there. And that seemed to be very good because
Speaker 1: it's a small it's two bedroom, but it's it's small
Speaker 1: for me and like for what I do. So it's
Speaker 1: like a small space and a special place in a
Speaker 1: different part of New York City I'd never spent time in.
Speaker 1: So now I feel like I'm like a tourist when
Speaker 1: I go. You know, it's not the Soho Tribeca of
Speaker 1: my younger years. It's more like calmer, like more almost
Speaker 1: like adult in a way. It's not cool, it's more
Speaker 1: like just nice. And then I always wanted to have
Speaker 1: a place in Florida, so I bought a small place
Speaker 1: in Florida and like that too. I was like, wait,
Speaker 1: I really like this small space life. So I was
Speaker 1: just sitting here like everybody else my age, and I
Speaker 1: talked about it on this podcast. That's like waiting to
Speaker 1: see what's gonna happen when their kids go to college,
Speaker 1: knowing that I will move out of here, and then
Speaker 1: Brita would be like, but mom, I'm gonna want a
Speaker 1: place to come back from college. I'm like, we're not
Speaker 1: from here, and I know we love it and you
Speaker 1: have good friends, but you're gonna come back from college
Speaker 1: and you're gonna go to spring break and in the summer,
Speaker 1: you're gonna want to be in the Hamptons where we are,
Speaker 1: Like this house will be probably a two week a
Speaker 1: year thing for you. You know it's not. And I
Speaker 1: left it alone, like I'm doing. We do everything for
Speaker 1: our kids. I'm staying here for her until she graduates
Speaker 1: college or goes to college. And let's see what happened.
Speaker 1: So we were down in Florida and something very personal
Speaker 1: transpired and I went to school in Florida, and I
Speaker 1: don't want to get into all the details of this now,
Speaker 1: but something happened and my daughter, who had said years ago,
Speaker 1: I want to move to Florida, she cried to me
Speaker 1: one time. I'm like, we can't. There are a set
Speaker 1: of circumstances we can't, and I can't. And it actually
Speaker 1: would have helped that other long distance relationship because that
Speaker 1: person wanted to move to Florida too, But at that
Speaker 1: time it was just a concept and I couldn't have
Speaker 1: imagined living in Florida. So she said, I want to
Speaker 1: move to Florida this trip, and I was like something
Speaker 1: had happened, and I was like, maybe this is a
Speaker 1: silver lining that this thing happened and Florida became a
Speaker 1: real concept, like she had years ago said it. We
Speaker 1: dropped it because she has great friends and a great life,
Speaker 1: and she just said it, and she met and she
Speaker 1: begged me, but she didn't have to beg me, like
Speaker 1: she's just like I really want this. I'm like, you sure,
Speaker 1: And I know my kid, and I knew that once
Speaker 1: this was presented, this situation for her, that she'd want
Speaker 1: to move, and I just was like fuck it, like
Speaker 1: like fucking fuck it, Okay, you know. I didn't say
Speaker 1: that to her. I said it to myself. And I
Speaker 1: was in mode. I was in mode like the California
Speaker 1: fires had just happened, Like something had just happened and
Speaker 1: I had to solve the problem. And I got in
Speaker 1: mode and I that was a month ago. That was
Speaker 1: literally a month and four days ago, and I have
Speaker 1: been a frazzled, manic mess since then. It leaned into
Speaker 1: school house, sell house, pack house, and I was always
Speaker 1: thinking in the background, like this fucking house is gonna
Speaker 1: kill me. This fucking house is gonna kill me. It's
Speaker 1: the best house. It's an amazing, extraordinary house for a
Speaker 1: family that has kids, that have kids that will come
Speaker 1: home for you have a staff, Like there's an apple orchard,
Speaker 1: there are apples, like I can't believe I was so
Speaker 1: successful that I was able to buy this, But more importantly,
Speaker 1: I can't believe that I am so like I have
Speaker 1: such vision that I was able to make this into
Speaker 1: such an extraordinary property for someone like I don't get
Speaker 1: emotional about things like that. I sold the house in
Speaker 1: the Hamptons that I was in for like ten twelve years,
Speaker 1: and we were just like ready. But there's something about
Speaker 1: this house that I've been in and this town Greenwich
Speaker 1: that I feel like I didn't give it its fair share,
Speaker 1: you know, for me at the stage of my life,
Speaker 1: and it was so amazing. And the person getting this
Speaker 1: house like once this is out, like the deal will
Speaker 1: be done already. This house sold itself. This house, I
Speaker 1: had ten people come to look at it off market.
Speaker 1: Four wanted to come back, two wanted to make offers
Speaker 1: like it's been crazy and it's a lot more than
Speaker 1: I paid. Because I put my blood, sweat, tears, pours
Speaker 1: into this house, and like I was almost crying on
Speaker 1: the planet today coming home from Florida, just for like
Speaker 1: feeling like there's a plaque that says there were only
Speaker 1: twenty people since seventeen four three that have ever lived
Speaker 1: in this house, and I'm one of them, and my
Speaker 1: name is on the plaque, And like I feel like
Speaker 1: a fucking sellout for leaving this house after a couple
Speaker 1: of years, but like someone deserves to be in here.
Speaker 1: That's not gonna not use that dynamo and it's not
Speaker 1: going to not use the entertainment bar and that.
Speaker 2: I built for them.
Speaker 1: And I'm a person that like doesn't like when somebody
Speaker 1: made a lot of money on a house, Like I
Speaker 1: need to see the work. So whoever these people are,
Speaker 1: because I don't know their names that came in, like
Speaker 1: they are getting such an extraordinary home that I've put
Speaker 1: my life into, and like people would pay me a
Speaker 1: lot of money to do what I've done, like it
Speaker 1: was insane. So I was like sentimental about it. But
Speaker 1: I've been a manic fucking mix because I've had my
Speaker 1: entire staff and I have a staff in circles moving
Speaker 1: shit out. Here's the thing and You've heard me talk
Speaker 1: a lot about decluttering and stuff. The thing is, this
Speaker 1: is the thing I have gotten rid of. This is
Speaker 1: not an exaggeration. Seventy percent of my stuff seventy percent.
Speaker 1: Not a day goes by that there are not ten things,
Speaker 1: and we haven't gotten to furniture yet. I'm leading every
Speaker 1: single fucking thing. There has not been a day that
Speaker 1: I haven't said dump it, dump it, dump it, goodbye,
Speaker 1: donate it, get rid of it, to ten things. I
Speaker 1: am dispassionate about anything. I don't care about stuff. I
Speaker 1: want this new life to be stuff free. I want
Speaker 1: to not be shackled. I want to not be enveloped.
Speaker 2: I want to not.
Speaker 1: Feel that I need all this space. I want to
Speaker 1: feel free. I want a date. I want to enjoy.
Speaker 1: I want to live. I want to have fun. I
Speaker 1: want to travel. I and this weird, majestic, magical thing
Speaker 1: that I did put out into the universe, it just
Speaker 1: came and it saved me, Like I just I got out,
Speaker 1: and I got out ethically in the sense that like
Speaker 1: I did not.
Speaker 2: Push this on my kid.
Speaker 1: And we can tell our kids what they have to
Speaker 1: do and where they have to go, and they have
Speaker 1: to switch schools, the last year of high school. If
Speaker 1: we want because we're about to get a job, or
Speaker 1: we're going to do something, or we get married, or
Speaker 1: we could do whatever we want.
Speaker 2: I didn't do that. I just didn't want to do that.
Speaker 1: My kid's been through a lot and she wanted it.
Speaker 1: And I just feel so happy that like it's all
Speaker 1: coming together. But at this particular moment, I'm a just
Speaker 1: a goddamn fucking wreck. Like I'm just a little bit
Speaker 1: of a frazzle mess. I can't get out of it.
Speaker 1: I have to finish everything. I swam in the ocean
Speaker 1: this morning. I walk down the beach this morning. Like
Speaker 1: my best friends of my entire life live in Florida.
Speaker 1: My best like the best friends that I have on
Speaker 1: this planet live in Florida. I have a community there.
Speaker 1: I want a community for my daughter. I want a
Speaker 1: family for us, and like a place like, for example,
Speaker 1: my friends from Florida, that's who we're seeing on Mother's Day.
Speaker 1: I want to feel like we're part of something. We
Speaker 1: don't have that strong family unit. I want to feel
Speaker 1: like we're part of something, and like I don't feel
Speaker 1: like that in Greenwich, and I don't feel like that
Speaker 1: in the city because I feel like that's what the
Speaker 1: city is.
Speaker 2: I just don't feel it. So my body, my choice.
Speaker 2: We're moving.
Speaker 1: I'm stressed. Had a glass of wine on the plane today.
Speaker 1: For the first time in a while. I haven't been drinking.
Speaker 1: It just feels like the only thing that's gonna like
Speaker 1: calm me a little bit fucking down is to just
Speaker 1: have a drink.
Speaker 2: And it's not a good idea. I think I'm allergic
Speaker 2: to tequila. The other day.
Speaker 1: My face started getting read right away and I had
Speaker 1: like a terrible headache the next day. And that's why
Speaker 1: I stopped drinking to begin with. One tequila, give me
Speaker 1: one margarita. So anyway, I had a glass of wine
Speaker 1: on the plane because I was just like, what am
Speaker 1: I gonna do? Like I need to calm down. So
Speaker 1: I'm a mess, and that's a ramp