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Speaker 1: that fucking tube.

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Speaker 1: I was in a relationship and I mean fucking hi.

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Speaker 1: I was born at Long Island, Jewish in Queens, nearby

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Speaker 1: not anything. My whole life is just being Ish. But

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Speaker 1: Touching story, it doesn't matter. But I ended up moving

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Speaker 1: to the suburbs and moving to Connecticut, to an area

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