WEBVTT - Point Zion 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:03.440 On this episode of This League, we talk about the 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:07.280 train wreck that is the Atlanta Hawks, the most surprising 0:00:07.360 --> 0:00:09.520 reason that the New Orleans Pelicans are one of the 0:00:09.520 --> 0:00:11.920 most exciting teams in the league. 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:13.920 And how they still might not make the playoffs. 0:00:14.120 --> 0:00:17.600 We also talk about James Harden's exciting return back to Houston, 0:00:17.640 --> 0:00:20.959 and we also work on answering a bunch well not 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:23.920 really a bunch, just a couple of new Listener dms 0:00:24.440 --> 0:00:29.360 Donovan Mitchell and Rudy Gobert about to get fined. 0:00:29.600 --> 0:00:34.199 Yes they are, Yes they are. And at a. 0:00:34.040 --> 0:00:39.159 Certain point, if you know that even making mention of 0:00:39.280 --> 0:00:42.200 how bad the refereeing is, we'll get your ass fined. 0:00:42.240 --> 0:00:45.360 You might as well skip the subtleties and just come 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:50.600 out and say it right, No sense of beating around 0:00:50.680 --> 0:00:51.280 the bush. 0:00:51.560 --> 0:00:53.120 Might as well just say. 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:56.600 That the game was stolen from you, which is exactly 0:00:56.640 --> 0:00:59.720 what Donovan Mitchell said in his presser after the loss 0:00:59.760 --> 0:01:02.280 to the Sixers in overtime. 0:01:02.360 --> 0:01:03.840 Let's hear what Donovan head say. 0:01:04.600 --> 0:01:07.000 It's screwed in a way by this. You know, like 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:09.560 we won this game in my personal opinion, you know, 0:01:09.640 --> 0:01:11.120 but like I said, I'm gonna give them credit. They 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:14.880 won whatever. Cool, but like this is it's a consistent thing, 0:01:15.400 --> 0:01:17.320 and you know, the question is can we can we 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:18.280 do it? Can we sustain it? 0:01:18.319 --> 0:01:18.880 Are we th real? 0:01:18.959 --> 0:01:19.240 Number? 0:01:19.240 --> 0:01:19.399 One? 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:21.720 Like, yeah, the hell we are. And it's getting it's 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:25.080 getting ridiculous, KK that this is this is what's happening, 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:26.840 you know what I mean? We have a whole second 0:01:26.880 --> 0:01:28.200 half of the season to go and get ready for. 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:30.040 But like I'm sick of it, to be honest with that, 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:31.959 we all are, you know, And I think this is 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:36.600 something that just if it eats me, it eats at me. Man, 0:01:36.600 --> 0:01:39.800 And it's I don't, I don't y'all know what it is. 0:01:39.840 --> 0:01:41.720 We all know what it is. But it's it's really 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:45.000 getting out of hand. It's really really really getting out 0:01:45.040 --> 0:01:47.160 of hand. And the lead needs to do something about 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:50.160 this because I want to see the last two minute report. 0:01:50.480 --> 0:01:51.800 What is he referring to? 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:58.760 I would say, atrocious, terrible, disgustingly bad calls. 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:03.600 Marty, you who did the little crying face while you 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:06.880 were listening to Donovan? You think he's being a bitch. 0:02:07.200 --> 0:02:10.320 No, no, no, don't put words in my mouth. I 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:13.200 just I have a history with Donovan Mitchell. So like 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:16.200 I'll always kind of do that with him, but there 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:19.680 were some really in that game. Yet, No, I don't 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:20.720 blame him at all for saying that. 0:02:21.120 --> 0:02:27.239 The first bad call was when Royce O'Neill went after 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:29.760 a loose ball. This is in the fourth quarter, less 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:33.520 than a minute left in the game. He seems to 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:37.760 pass the ball to Donovan Mitchell before his foot touches 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:41.919 out of bounce. He does in review he had not 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:47.000 touched with his foot to the ground, but apparently, like 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:50.880 some childhood fort game at a castle. 0:02:50.560 --> 0:02:53.280 If you make contact with the ref who is out 0:02:53.320 --> 0:02:55.240 of bounds, you are now out of bounce. 0:02:56.280 --> 0:03:02.239 So that was the first one that is absolutely unconscionable. 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:05.840 So then obviously Sixers get the ball back. 0:03:06.840 --> 0:03:09.920 At this point, Utah's up three and Donovan would have 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:11.920 either had a clear path foul or he would have 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:15.200 made a layup right, so they would have gone up 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:19.919 five with a minute left, But instead embiid hits the 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:21.919 three overtime right. 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:24.480 Momentum, all swinging in the Sixers way. 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:29.079 Then in the last minute of ot Spider drove down 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:33.120 the lane, spun around Ben Simmons. Ben Simmons had his 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:37.480 arm and they called it a hooking fowl on Donovan Mitchell, 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:40.240 an offensive foul. Wh it's really yo, let me just 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:43.640 get my arm from underneath yours because you're hooked, you're 0:03:43.760 --> 0:03:48.200 holding on. But no foul on Donovan. Okay, Then that 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:54.400 phantom call on Embiid Embiid gets rim checked. That one 0:03:54.440 --> 0:03:57.240 was really bad. There was no foul, and then and 0:03:57.320 --> 0:04:00.560 then they call a foul on who is it, Mike Conley? 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:03.520 I think they called the foul on Mike Conley. And 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:06.480 then either Donovan Mitchell said something or made contact with 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:09.880 the ball with his foot and Embiid baited the ref 0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:13.640 and a calling a technical foul on Donovan, and now 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:16.719 you get fucking free throws and the technical foul and 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:19.919 then I don't know what happened for Donovan get the 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:24.240 second technical, he gets ejected from the game. He kicks 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:27.120 the water cooler into that guy. 0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:28.240 He's like, I'm sorry. 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:31.520 It went from the Jazz should have won that game 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:34.680 easily to then they lose by nine in overtime. 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:35.960 Yeah. 0:04:36.000 --> 0:04:39.880 And then after the game, Rudy Gobert says things as well. 0:04:39.960 --> 0:04:40.919 This is what he said. 0:04:41.360 --> 0:04:44.080 Our guys are not able to get calls. Everybody in 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:46.880 the fucking league gets we all. 0:04:46.640 --> 0:04:48.400 Know that we're the Utah Jazz. 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:52.720 We all know that we're the Utah Jazz, and maybe 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:55.240 some people don't want to see us go as far 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:56.080 as we can go. 0:04:57.120 --> 0:04:58.200 But as disappointing. 0:04:58.400 --> 0:05:00.520 Three times in a row Mike Conley going to the 0:05:00.600 --> 0:05:01.800 rim and they're grabbing him. 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:03.760 Right in front of the officials, and there's no calls. 0:05:04.120 --> 0:05:06.680 And on the other end, there are calls that are invisible, 0:05:07.080 --> 0:05:10.880 phantom calls that are being made. What Marty did I 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:14.200 say about small market teams, This is a perfect example. 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:17.440 We don't sorry, we don't want to see you win. 0:05:18.080 --> 0:05:20.920 We don't want nice things for you. The NBA wants 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:24.480 the Lakers, they want the Clippers. They want the Phoenix 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:30.720 Suns with pretty boy Booker. Okay, benefit or no, but 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:34.159 they do want the Lakers and the Clippers in this right. 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:37.640 They do not want the Mormon Utah Jazz. 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:46.320 No coffee drinking, ski slope riding, homogeneous city in arena. 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:48.720 They I mean, I don't want to say it, but 0:05:48.800 --> 0:05:51.279 that is exactly what Rudy Gobert is trying to say, 0:05:51.320 --> 0:05:54.120 is they don't want to see us win. And these 0:05:54.160 --> 0:05:57.840 are facts. I do not like to be a conspiracy theorist, 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:03.800 but that's the that's the deal. Gobert confirmed that the 0:06:03.880 --> 0:06:06.599 league was out to get them because they're a small 0:06:06.600 --> 0:06:09.320 market franchise. He says, I don't want to say that, 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:12.000 but I really believe it. After playing in this league 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:14.240 for eight years, it's a little harder to be in 0:06:14.240 --> 0:06:15.040 a small market. 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:17.240 That's one of the things that we've got to overcome. 0:06:17.520 --> 0:06:19.080 That's why I told the guys. 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:21.240 When you're a small market, you've got to be better 0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:23.760 than just be better. You've got to be elite, and 0:06:23.800 --> 0:06:27.240 you've got to be in control and what you can control. 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:31.640 And there are facts for this conspiracy theory, and Brad 0:06:31.720 --> 0:06:35.320 Botkin for CBS Last two Nights Ago wrote, if Mitchell 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:38.480 does have a legit gripe with the officials, perhaps it 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:41.560 stems from him or his teammates not getting calls in 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:45.400 big moments. The Jazz take under two clutch free throws 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:49.719 per game within five points with under five minutes to play, 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:56.080 ranking dead last, and Mitchell has only taken nine clutch 0:06:56.120 --> 0:07:00.560 free throws all season, which ranks fortieth in the league, 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:04.039 and no Utah player is in the top fifty. The 0:07:04.120 --> 0:07:09.960 Sixers show outshot Utah thirty five to nineteen from the line, 0:07:10.440 --> 0:07:14.280 which you would say, oh, well, maybe maybe that's just 0:07:14.320 --> 0:07:19.360 how it goes. No, because Utah normally is one of 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:22.520 the best defensive teams in the league, and their opponents 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:25.840 only get to the line the sixth fewest. 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:27.360 Times out of any NBA team. 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:33.160 So for the Philadelphia seventy six ers to outpace Utah 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:38.720 thirty five to nineteen when normally they only get nineteen, 0:07:38.760 --> 0:07:42.040 their opponents only get nineteen free throws a game, double 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:47.840 their average. What is going on? I mean, come on, now, 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:52.600 come on now, This is like just you know statistics, right, Marty, 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:55.760 they have the little bell curve, and then it's like 0:07:56.080 --> 0:08:01.120 outside one standard deviation is like this percon probability, and 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:05.160 outside of this, this is two standard deviations outside of normal. Right, 0:08:05.320 --> 0:08:09.720 this is an impossible situation unless there's something nefarious at play, 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:13.800 and I personally believe that there is something nefarious at 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:15.280 play in Philadelphia. 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:17.200 I mean, it's very. 0:08:17.040 --> 0:08:19.480 Clear emb did everything that he could to win his 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:25.040 team the game, using his semantics and his histrionics and 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:28.880 all kinds of dramatics that he likes to put on 0:08:29.000 --> 0:08:32.080 the game in order to win. And that's fine, he said, 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:37.160 He said something on Twitter. Embiids basically admitted it Spider 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:40.080 clap back because mb was like, yeah, going into the 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:43.840 second half feeling good, and Donvan writes back, you a 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:49.520 fool bruh. And then and then Embiid responds back with 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:52.600 ha ha ha. Second time, I got you teed up 0:08:52.880 --> 0:08:59.120 lmaogg like, yeah, I did that. I personally got you ejected. 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:02.720 I mean that one's never going away, no ever. 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:05.160 Never going away. I love Joel Embiid. 0:09:05.160 --> 0:09:09.240 He's one of the funniest players, uh maybe in the NBA, 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:13.720 most entertaining, obviously very skilled, but if you are playing 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:15.520 against Joel Embiid, there. 0:09:15.360 --> 0:09:18.120 May be no more annoying. 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:22.520 Person to go up against because he is so aggressively 0:09:23.200 --> 0:09:28.880 in your face about like just basically cheating his way 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:29.560 into a win. 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:32.600 And we'll say it after fact, like yeah, I cheated. 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:36.079 Well, he did have that famous flop in like the backcourt. 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:39.280 I think it was on Mitchell. Actually, I think that's true. 0:09:39.280 --> 0:09:41.880 That's what he's said second time. Second time. 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:44.880 I think the only good news is the Jazz are 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:47.679 to a point after all of this, at the. 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:50.040 Halfway mark, you know you're not gonna get calls. 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:53.520 It's just time to take the buzzsaw, keep the foot 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:56.079 on the opponent's neck at all times, because if it 0:09:56.200 --> 0:09:59.760 comes down to the refs, you're gonna lose, which is 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:03.760 gonna be pretty important to know come playoff time. And 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:07.800 they're just not going to get those those whistles that 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:10.880 a team like the Clippers or the Lakers will get. 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:14.559 There are two types of great coaches. 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:15.520 In the NBA. 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:18.160 You can either be one of those Brad Stevens, X's 0:10:18.200 --> 0:10:21.120 and O's got my clipboard kind of nerds that can 0:10:21.240 --> 0:10:24.560 draw up the coolest little out of bounds play with 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:27.280 five point two seconds left and. 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:33.719 Like outscheme out, scheme out smart right. Or you can 0:10:33.760 --> 0:10:34.840 be like Doc Rivers. 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:37.720 And I'm no shade to Doc Rivers as an Ex's 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:40.840 and o's guy, but he's known as an ego manager. 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:44.839 So X's and O's ego managers. The real great ones 0:10:44.880 --> 0:10:48.440 do both right right. What you can't be is bad 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:51.679 at both of those things. You cannot be a head 0:10:51.720 --> 0:10:55.199 coach in the NBA and do both of those things 0:10:55.559 --> 0:10:56.480 quite terribly. 0:10:57.000 --> 0:10:59.920 That'll get you ass fired. That'll do that. 0:11:00.960 --> 0:11:05.640 Lloyd Pierce, Ah, Lloyd Pierce, he was really bad. 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:07.400 It appears at. 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:12.320 Both of those things, and predictably, Monday morning, after the 0:11:12.360 --> 0:11:17.440 pod dropped, swish, the guillotine came down for Lloyd Pierce's neck. 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:17.920 Rip. 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:23.360 To Lloyd Pierce, they even as fucked up. They even 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:27.439 let him run Monday practice. They let him run practice. 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:32.959 Come back to the hotel and we're like, hey, great practice. 0:11:33.240 --> 0:11:34.199 You're fucking out of here. 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:38.080 You're done. Getting fired on the road is tough, tough. 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:41.200 Why though, why do they have to do it this 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:43.199 way right break? 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:45.120 Like, couldn't you have just done it at the All 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:49.080 Star break? It's just crazy. He knew. 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:52.360 He knew because even last week he said to the 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:56.160 Athletic Travis the Hawks GM is going to fire me 0:11:56.240 --> 0:12:01.800 one day, and when he'd done, I'm not even gonna 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:06.040 be mad. That guy's damn near my best friend. That 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:09.720 is basically a man who knows that he said that. 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:14.360 He said that, Yes, that's not me. That was printed 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:17.600 in the Athletic. I'm not even going to be mad. 0:12:19.120 --> 0:12:22.560 That's how you know you're dead man walking. That's that's 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:26.600 how you know. I don't care how much hot water 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:27.320 I am in. 0:12:27.880 --> 0:12:30.920 I will never admit there's a possibility of me being 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:35.000 let go until I'm already let go, like Scott Brooks 0:12:35.080 --> 0:12:36.800 is doing it the perfect way, where Scott's like, I 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:39.200 believe we're gonna be at a point where we get 0:12:39.200 --> 0:12:41.720 a deal done, like I think it's gonna happen, Like 0:12:41.920 --> 0:12:45.720 he's out here basically prognosticating an extension when he's the 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:48.200 odds on favorite to be the next coach fired. 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:49.560 That's how you do it. 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:51.440 That's how you stay in the league, because then people 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:54.080 are like, wait, hold on, you flip the narrative on 0:12:54.200 --> 0:13:01.599 its head. By all accounts, Lloyd Pierce was a valuable 0:13:01.679 --> 0:13:05.400 asset to the NBA in certain ways. He helped get 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:08.200 the Arenas to be voting centers with Lebron. 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:14.040 He was thoughtful. The other coaches love him. Rick Carlyle 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:15.120 even like, I. 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:17.160 Don't know if you saw it, but like after Lloyd 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:20.400 Pierce was fired, Rick Carlile issued a statement that was 0:13:20.440 --> 0:13:21.440 like this is crazy. 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:25.520 Yeah, he was like this. He literally said, this is crazy. 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:29.080 But the problem is that only coaches seem to be 0:13:29.120 --> 0:13:31.559 the ones that like Lloyd Pierce, like his. 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:35.079 Own, his own team, his own team. 0:13:35.120 --> 0:13:39.480 There's multiple articles written about his entire team not liking him. 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:42.400 We know that the Hawks have been in a bad situation. 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:46.359 They've had a tough year with injuries, fluid schedules, no crowds, 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:50.000 back to backs, and so, yeah, you're Lloyd Pierce and 0:13:50.040 --> 0:13:53.560 you have been given like a rock and a carrot, 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:57.640 and they're like, go make chicken noodle soup, Go make 0:13:57.720 --> 0:14:01.280 something out of this Michelin star And so he's had 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:03.640 a bad he's had a bad goal of it. In 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:06.040 terms of injuries, he's I think they've had the most 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:10.360 second most injuries in the NBA, one hundred and forty 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:17.439 three man games lost. Okay, that's obviously tough, but at 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:20.680 this point you kind of have to be nice to 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:22.680 your players if you know you're not gonna get him 0:14:22.680 --> 0:14:25.120 to win because everybody's basically sitting on the bench and 0:14:25.120 --> 0:14:28.800 they're injured. According to a deep dive in The Athletic 0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:32.960 he's has seemed to piss off every Hawks player individually 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:38.600 and the team as a whole. Bro They said sometimes 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:41.320 we come up to him and we ask him like, hey, 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:46.240 can you change this, that or that, and he's like no, No. 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:53.680 He's publicly sewering multiple members of his team, Trey Young, 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:58.040 John Collins, Cam Reddish in the media, just shit talking 0:14:58.080 --> 0:15:00.960 them and then expecting them to go out and perform 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:06.160 for him. Every single player that he has coached said 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:07.840 that they don't feel heard when they go and talk 0:15:07.880 --> 0:15:08.680 to him in his office. 0:15:08.680 --> 0:15:12.720 That's not good. Yeah, hey, hey, we're opening to maybe. 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:14.600 Play like a little bit more of a free flowing 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:18.440 fourth quarter offense. Like things are kind of stagnant for us. 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:22.320 We've given up eleven twelve fourth quarter leads. 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:23.240 Like what do you. 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:26.640 Think and he's like, nah, I think things are good 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:30.000 just the way that they are. It is insane. So 0:15:30.200 --> 0:15:33.040 he said these things about his players. He said John 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:39.880 Collins was selfish. He said Cam Reddish was overrated and 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:44.240 not performing up to his expectations, and that Trey Young 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:47.040 he doesn't like the way that Tray Young draws fouls. 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:50.680 He doesn't like where Trey Young pulls up from And 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:53.480 then when they approached him about it, he was like, no, 0:15:53.600 --> 0:15:54.920 that's not exactly what I meant. 0:15:55.200 --> 0:15:56.320 That's not what I said. 0:15:56.360 --> 0:15:59.160 Really, I didn't say you were selfish, John, I said 0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:02.920 you you want plays called for you, but I don't 0:16:02.920 --> 0:16:06.920 think you're good enough for us to call play specifically 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:07.600 for you. 0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:09.480 Cam. 0:16:09.520 --> 0:16:11.720 I know you said you think I said that you 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:15.880 were overrated, but really, I'm just saying that I thought 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:17.400 you would be a lot better than. 0:16:17.200 --> 0:16:20.160 You are, Trey. 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:23.040 I know you think that I'm saying that you're a chucker, 0:16:23.600 --> 0:16:26.880 but really I just think you need to take better shots. 0:16:27.400 --> 0:16:28.480 I mean that's all. I mean. 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:31.520 It's exactly the same thing with just like nicer language 0:16:31.560 --> 0:16:34.840 around it. You can't be this way. You cannot be 0:16:34.960 --> 0:16:38.280 this way. I knew when I looked at this stat 0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:39.200 this is bad. 0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:42.880 This is bad. So I think that there was only two. 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:46.800 Games that the Atlanta Hawks won in eleven, right, they 0:16:46.800 --> 0:16:50.840 were two and eleven, okay, and those two games were 0:16:50.880 --> 0:16:54.600 when Lloyd Pierce left the team because his wife had 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:56.720 a baby. 0:16:56.920 --> 0:16:59.360 So when you when the only two. 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:02.920 Games in an eleven twelve game stretch that you win, 0:17:03.400 --> 0:17:07.160 or when your head coach is nowhere near the team, 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:10.879 I think it's time for him to be nowhere. 0:17:10.440 --> 0:17:11.040 Near the team. 0:17:11.160 --> 0:17:13.199 Yeah, I mean they were sure talking about that. 0:17:13.440 --> 0:17:16.960 They absolutely absolutely so. 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:21.200 Cam Reddish has missed eight games due to injury, Gallinari 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:25.920 ten games, Rondo sixteen games, Bogdanovic twenty five games, Chris 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:30.680 Dunn the entire season on Yukka, their rookie number six pick. 0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:34.159 Overall miss twenty games. Even Trey Young has missed a 0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:38.040 couple of games. DeAndre Hunter, DeAndre Hunter missed multiple games, 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:40.600 like I said, one hundred and forty three man games, 0:17:40.600 --> 0:17:44.320 lost second in the NBA. So did he get a 0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:47.880 bad break? Did he have basically nothing to work with? 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:50.520 Yes? That is true. 0:17:51.080 --> 0:17:55.000 Was he a bad coach and a bad ego manager? 0:17:55.280 --> 0:18:00.159 Did his entire team not like being coached by him? So? 0:18:00.280 --> 0:18:02.960 Yes? Somebody asked they. 0:18:02.840 --> 0:18:07.400 Did like a random anonymous poll, which coach in the league. 0:18:07.160 --> 0:18:10.359 Would you not like to be coached by? And there were. 0:18:10.240 --> 0:18:13.119 Atlanta Hawks players who said, can I choose the coach 0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:14.040 that's coaching me? 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:17.280 I didn't make this out. This is not a joke. 0:18:17.359 --> 0:18:23.159 This is real. So those two things are not mutually exclusive, 0:18:23.200 --> 0:18:23.919 are they. 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:26.600 You can have a shit situation and also be bad 0:18:26.600 --> 0:18:29.919 at your job, and at that point you can't go 0:18:30.040 --> 0:18:32.159 out in the beginning of the year and say. 0:18:32.480 --> 0:18:35.680 We're gonna make the playoffs. That's what he did. 0:18:35.720 --> 0:18:41.159 Folks set expectations in an outrageous manner for the owner 0:18:41.240 --> 0:18:42.200 to then say. 0:18:42.160 --> 0:18:42.760 What's up. 0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:44.040 What's up? 0:18:44.080 --> 0:18:48.760 You guys have lost thirteen out of fifteen. You told me, 0:18:49.280 --> 0:18:51.119 you told me you were gonna make the playoffs. 0:18:51.320 --> 0:18:54.280 You gotta go. And now we've got Nate McMillan's ass 0:18:54.440 --> 0:18:55.760 Nate McMillan. 0:18:55.560 --> 0:18:58.399 Walk the ball up to half court. That's what we 0:18:58.480 --> 0:19:00.240 have for the rest of the year. With this quote 0:19:00.280 --> 0:19:04.920 quote high flying offense. The good news is Nate McMillan, 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:08.720 his entire career, has said listen, I want to run 0:19:08.760 --> 0:19:12.520 a fast paced offense. It's not me, it's really the 0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:13.440 players that I have. 0:19:14.280 --> 0:19:15.240 I know that I had. 0:19:15.040 --> 0:19:19.080 Brandon Roy and LaMarcus Aldridge, but it was just them. 0:19:19.440 --> 0:19:20.760 I wanted to push the pace. 0:19:21.600 --> 0:19:22.800 I know that I was one of the. 0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:25.919 Slowest offenses in Indiana as a head coach, but it 0:19:26.040 --> 0:19:26.520 was them. 0:19:27.040 --> 0:19:32.320 I know I had Victor Oladipo, it was them. 0:19:32.680 --> 0:19:33.119 I don't know. 0:19:33.280 --> 0:19:35.840 I like Lloyd Peerce. Maybe he was the wrong guy 0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:39.520 to coach young players. I mean, maybe he's the kind 0:19:39.560 --> 0:19:43.120 of guy that could be like a skills development assistant 0:19:43.520 --> 0:19:46.840 to hold players accountable, like I don't know Ben Simmons. 0:19:46.880 --> 0:19:51.720 Maybe he would fit to be Ben simmons shooting accountability partner. 0:19:52.359 --> 0:19:55.640 Because Lloyd Pierce doesn't appear to have much carrot in him. 0:19:55.840 --> 0:19:57.280 It's just all shit talking. 0:19:57.320 --> 0:20:00.560 It's all stick stick stick let's just say that I've 0:20:00.600 --> 0:20:03.280 got lots to say about Nate McMillan as a new 0:20:03.280 --> 0:20:06.399 head coach, so much that that's gonna be a segment 0:20:06.440 --> 0:20:09.119 on Monday, so I've got to dig deep onto whether 0:20:09.480 --> 0:20:12.359 he's actually going to make it long term, and also 0:20:12.480 --> 0:20:15.280 what some other coaching candidates will look like. But the 0:20:15.320 --> 0:20:17.800 good news is that the Hawks at the halfway point, 0:20:18.040 --> 0:20:20.640 because the East is sort of big trash, they're only 0:20:20.720 --> 0:20:22.680 three and a half games out of the four seed, 0:20:22.920 --> 0:20:25.440 and all without all that drama in the locker room 0:20:25.440 --> 0:20:28.640 and fourth quarter collapses, this team could have actually been 0:20:28.960 --> 0:20:31.800 right there. If they would have won six out of 0:20:31.800 --> 0:20:35.160 those twelve, they'd be three in the East right now. 0:20:35.240 --> 0:20:35.920 Isn't that crazy? 0:20:36.040 --> 0:20:37.960 That is? Yeah, I mean the East is so jammed 0:20:38.040 --> 0:20:38.480 up right now. 0:20:38.560 --> 0:20:44.280 It's so weird, Like they legitimately just blew multiple fourth 0:20:44.320 --> 0:20:46.879 quarter leads, like they're up double ditchits and they just 0:20:47.000 --> 0:20:50.200 it just dissolves out of nowhere. And I think Lloyd 0:20:50.200 --> 0:20:52.680 Pierce was a big reason for that. So hopefully they're 0:20:52.720 --> 0:20:54.920 able to salvage the season. I was very excited about 0:20:54.960 --> 0:20:57.720 them in like week one or two because they were. 0:20:58.480 --> 0:20:59.960 I mean, they're fast paced, they're fun. 0:21:00.200 --> 0:21:03.399 Yeah, they're four and one, hot, hot, hot, sexy, scoring 0:21:03.440 --> 0:21:04.879 like one hundred and thirty points per game, and then 0:21:04.920 --> 0:21:07.879 they just fell off a cliff. So hopefully they can 0:21:07.960 --> 0:21:12.040 fulfill Lloyd Pierce's proclamation before the season was started, and 0:21:12.040 --> 0:21:14.119 hopefully this is a playoff team that would be very, 0:21:14.200 --> 0:21:16.920 very fun. Pelicans might be one of the most exciting 0:21:17.000 --> 0:21:20.600 teams to watch right now, and I think they before 0:21:20.640 --> 0:21:22.200 the start of the month, they were in the middle 0:21:22.200 --> 0:21:24.679 of the offensive ratings and since then they are the 0:21:24.760 --> 0:21:28.399 number one offense in basketball. What stan Van Gundy did 0:21:28.920 --> 0:21:32.040 with Zion is actually pretty incredible, and what that did 0:21:32.080 --> 0:21:36.080