1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: Very uncharacteristic of one of your units to have six penalties. 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 2: What do you think went wrong? Yeah, it's a lot 3 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 2: of stuff. 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 3: You know, we knew that crew through a lot of penalties, 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 3: but you just, you know, you just can't do it 6 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 3: offside or holding two holding penalties and and I can, 7 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 3: I can deal with those, you know, effort penalties, but 8 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 3: the you know, legal shift and. 9 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 2: You know holding penalty. 10 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 3: At the line of scrimmage that wasn't necessary, like stuff 11 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 3: like that. That's just it's it's hard enough to win 12 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 3: games in this league to beat your opponent. You can't 13 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 3: overcome yourself and then try and beat your opponents. So 14 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 3: it's obviously it's a point of emphasis all the time. 15 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 3: But you know, especially this week, you know, after we 16 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 3: had that that type of performance. 17 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: How do you fix stuff like that? How do you 18 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: make sure that it doesn't happen again? 19 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 3: Well, in the moment, you know, you gotta coach it better, right, 20 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 3: you gotta drill it better. You gotta over and aside 21 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 3: certain things that are not being executed, you know, as 22 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 3: far as illegal shift, get up to the line, get set. 23 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 2: It's really simple, Like it's ain't that hard, you know, Uh, Holding. 24 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 3: Schematically, we can do some things better to put our 25 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 3: our lungs to have a better position where he doesn't 26 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 3: have to hold you know, that's something I could do. 27 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 3: But just a little small, those little small details. Just 28 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 3: make sure you just tighten the screws on everything, you 29 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 3: know what I mean. And you feel like things are 30 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 3: getting loose. You just got to tighten the screws. And 31 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 3: that's it, and it's execution under pressure. Got to execute right. 32 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 3: Got to do a better job on our path going 33 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 3: to the punter right. We can't run right down the 34 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 3: middle of them. We got to either veer off to 35 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 3: the left or v after the right. It's just, you know, 36 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 3: just details of your job. You just got to do 37 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 3: a better job. 38 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 2: You know. 39 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 3: Michael Dixon is a really good punter. Uh he hits 40 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 3: a variety of balls. It's just you know, you you 41 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 3: want to make sure that the guy back there feels comfortable. 42 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 3: And you know, it's just we made a decision put 43 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 3: him back there, and you know it's it's it's just tough. 44 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 3: Michael Dixon is the leading punter in the league right now, 45 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 3: is average almost fifty five year olds of punt and. 46 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:08,679 Speaker 2: Again, he has those variety punts, So it makes it 47 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 2: tough one going back with Eric. Yeah, he'll be back. 48 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 2: It's a little. 49 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 3: Stranger because from what we see, you know, you have 50 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 3: guys back there every day catching punts during the special 51 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 3: teams portions, and. 52 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 2: A Door is not one of those guys. He does it. 53 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 3: I mean he's he does from time time. He's done 54 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 3: it enough in his career to where we feel comfortable 55 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:30,519 Speaker 3: putt him back there. Uh, but we have a bunch 56 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 3: of guys back there catching punts every day because you 57 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 3: just never know. 58 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 2: That's just due. 59 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 3: You know, you always want to have options, you know, 60 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,119 Speaker 3: as the game moves forward, as a year moves forward, 61 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 3: you got injuries, have all kinds of things that happened, 62 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 3: so you always have them to have a bunch of 63 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 3: guys back there catching pumps. 64 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 2: But he catches them after practice, He catches them all 65 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 2: the time. Were they the right decisions? The ones he 66 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 2: let bounce, because obviously if they bounce the other direction, 67 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 2: then you're gonna say, yeah, I was director when they 68 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 2: roll inside the five, it's gonna look like that. 69 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 3: It's it's tough because you know, we were pressuring him 70 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 3: and he was inconsistent, all right, So again his ball 71 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 3: and it hits the ground, it averages probably ten fifteen 72 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 3: yards of roll yards like trust away. 73 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 2: You know, those guys are hard. 74 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 3: It's difficult because you're playing him at fifty yards fifty 75 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 3: four yards and he hits it forty or hits it 76 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 3: forty two and the. 77 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 2: Ball, you know, and it's hard. 78 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 3: Then you have a gunner that's coming down the field, 79 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 3: the jammers coming down the field. 80 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 2: You don't want to run up make a bad decision. 81 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 2: You know. 82 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 3: It's a double edged sword, you know. So it was 83 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 3: just kind of one of those deal it's perfect storm. 84 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: You know, what have you thought of your guys special 85 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: teams and performance? 86 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 2: The PFF ratings have you guys last? But what have 87 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 2: you thought just personally? You know, to be honest with you, 88 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 2: I don't take a lot of stock into. 89 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 3: The PFF for any you know, we started off slow 90 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 3: and then I think we hit those two games in there, 91 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 3: we could start to pick it up a little bit, 92 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 3: and then we just took a step back. 93 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 2: You know. So again we've been kind of. 94 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 3: On this roller coaster ride and we got to make 95 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 3: sure that we're continue getting better. 96 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: You know. 97 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 2: That's the that's the mantra of oar room anyway, it's 98 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 2: it's it's the. 99 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 3: Act of continuous improvement, right, So we just got to 100 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 3: make sure we just keep getting better. 101 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: How much better do you need to play as a 102 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: unit and this whole new concept of complimentary football in 103 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: order to help this team dig itself out. 104 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not it's not a new concept. There's something 105 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:23,239 Speaker 3: that we did all last year. It's something that we've done, 106 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 3: uh when we've had success, you know, And that's any 107 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 3: football team, you have to play complimentary football, and you 108 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 3: gotta be one phase has to help the other one 109 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 3: even when the other one's down, you know. So you know, 110 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 3: kickoff return, punk return, offense, defense, turnovers, all those things 111 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 3: have to work as one and that's just something we 112 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 3: have to do a better job. But as a group 113 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 3: and as a unit and as a team, we just 114 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 3: got to play better complimentary. 115 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 2: Football look comfortable and yeah, absolutely yeah. 116 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 3: I mean you look at the first four games. I mean, 117 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 3: he made every good decision you could make. I mean 118 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 3: he filled the ball well. So I mean it's again, 119 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 3: Michael Dixon is different. Like he's an Australian punter that 120 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 3: can hit the ball a bunch of different ways. You 121 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 3: hit the ball nose up and it's spinning. It's just 122 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 3: a funky spin and he has a very powerful leg. 123 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 3: That's why he's the number one gross punter of the 124 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 3: league right now. I mean, it's just that's what it is. 125 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 3: We're talking about one play with a rookie. I mean 126 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 3: it's rookies make mistakes sometimes. I mean, last time I 127 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 3: checked Peyton Man, I think he had like thirty five 128 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 3: picks as a rookie in the. 129 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 2: National Football League. So young players make mistakes, but he'll 130 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 2: be fine. You mentioned the uneven performances. 131 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 3: How much pressure do you feel from the head coach 132 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 3: with that, you know, through four games? 133 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 2: Pressures that comes with the job. 134 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 3: Like that's pressure, wearing this like that that just comes 135 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 3: with the job. I don't pressures, my friend, you know, 136 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 3: I keep right here in my back pocket. I don't pressure. 137 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 2: Don't bother me. I mean, it's just like he's always 138 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 2: on my It's like that's part of the job. 139 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 3: Like I'm good with that, Like I have no issue 140 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 3: like the pressure part of this. 141 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 2: I love it. I absolutely love it because. 142 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 3: You wouldn't want it any like I wouldn't want to 143 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 3: be in any other place. And they don't give it. 144 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 3: You know, they don't care, you know what I mean. Like, 145 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 3: you want to be here in New York. You want 146 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 3: the pressure of being the best. You want the pressure 147 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,119 Speaker 3: of just trying to be at your absolute best. 148 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 2: That's that's why we do this. Like we don't do 149 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 2: it just to be average. 150 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 3: I don't show up here just to be just some 151 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 3: average coach playing on some average team in. 152 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 2: An average market. 153 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 3: I had a choice to come here to New York. 154 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 3: I made that choice. I knew exactly what I was 155 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 3: getting into, you know what I mean, So I love it. 156 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 2: It doesn't bother me at all. 157 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 3: How does the decision to take Eric out of that 158 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 3: and you know, give him a recree from what you're 159 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 3: saying from Texan, how does that decision get made? 160 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 2: TAM's come to you or do you? It's it's you know, 161 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 2: the decision was made. I mean, regardless of how it happens. 162 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 3: You know, it's it's just something we're doing for the 163 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 3: betterment of the team and just to make sure that, 164 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 3: you know, we get the ball back. And that's you know, 165 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 3: at the end of the day. That's I tell guy. 166 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 3: I tell guys all the time. I mean, part return 167 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 3: the most important thing is that we know we're getting 168 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 3: the ball back and that's what we need to do. 169 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, in regards to Evan Neil, if the pressure becomes 170 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 2: too much one day for somebody, especially a young guy, 171 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 2: how as a coach do you resenter him? And how 172 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 2: does the team recenter itself? You know, I don't. I'm 173 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 2: not gonna speak for Evan. I'll just speak in general. 174 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 2: You know. 175 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 3: You just you have to understand where you are and 176 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 3: what you're doing. You know what I mean, Like, we 177 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 3: know what we signed up for. This is pro football. 178 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 3: Fans are gonna say things like that's that's part of it. 179 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 3: My son is getting his Twitter blown up, my oldest 180 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 3: son because they had the same last name as me, right, 181 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 3: and then my other son has a podcast. 182 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 2: So it's trust me. 183 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 3: It's the mediate part of it, and I understand it. 184 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 3: It's you know, you just got to tune everything the 185 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 3: outside noise, outside noise, and it has nothing to do 186 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 3: what goes on inside the build. 187 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: There was a player I didn't understand where. I think 188 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: it was a punk coverage and Cam Brown came down 189 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,119 Speaker 1: late and I think he knocked the return guy over 190 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: and there was no penalty. I'm thinking it was gonna 191 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: be you know, unnecessary roughness. No, you don't remember. 192 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 2: Returner was lingering, hoping when you guysould touch it so 193 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 2: we could pick it up. 194 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: And Cam just wiped him out. 195 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 3: Oh the first touch because the whistle hadn't blown. Me, 196 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 3: if you go in there and you know the whistle 197 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 3: hadn't blown, you're still fair game, right, So you're going 198 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 3: there trying and get the ball. 199 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 2: That's just part of it. 200 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: So is it just knock him. Maybe he falls on 201 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: the ball when it's loose, and. 202 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 2: We maybe get it, you know what I mean. Probably 203 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 2: wasn't a smart thing by him to do.