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Speaker 2: So I kind of stopped everything io, so I packed

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Speaker 2: sit down the piano and enjoy myself and play again

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Speaker 1: From Futuromidia and pr X. It's Latino Usa. I'm Mariano

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Speaker 1: Posa Today Mexican singer and songwriter Juliet Davenegas and her

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Speaker 1: search for depth in the simple things. If you were

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Speaker 1: a teenager in Latin America in the two thousands, more

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Speaker 1: than likely you were obsessed with Juliet Davena.

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Speaker 3: The second Barono system Phyllis.

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Speaker 4: This is got Us Nasendo seven.

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Speaker 1: Fifty two year old Mexican singer and songwriter who was

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Speaker 1: born in Long Beach, California, captivated audiences with alternative pop

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Speaker 1: hits all about love and heartbreak and with her signature instrument,

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Speaker 1: of course, the accordion. Julieta got her big break as

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Speaker 1: a solo artist in Mexico City three decades ago when

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Speaker 1: she started showing up at small bars with her accordion,

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Speaker 1: winning audiences with her unique sound. Julia went on to

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Speaker 1: spend most of her time on a plane, touring around

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Speaker 3: Miconas, Luca and alb. She said her.

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Speaker 1: Story begins in Tijuana as a front Derisa growing up

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Speaker 2: My mom's never liked to cook. She doesn't like cooking,

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Speaker 2: and she's very much a sort of junk food junkie.

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Speaker 2: So it was like finished school in Tijuana across the border,

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Speaker 2: and she was like, what do you guys feel like

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Speaker 2: having some taco bell maybe chicken, or maybe a burger king.

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Speaker 4: She loves that stuff.

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Speaker 1: In the car while running family errands.

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Speaker 2: I'd listened to what my parents were listening to, which

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Speaker 1: She was around eight years old when her dad brought

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Speaker 2: He's like, everybody's going to piano lessons now, and it

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Speaker 2: and my brother and my sisters just kind of hated it.

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Speaker 2: And I'm the one who really loved it. And I

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Speaker 1: So the piano became a friend a home for Julieta.

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Speaker 1: She's been playing it for more than forty years.

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Speaker 5: Now, but as Julieta became a huge star, the piano

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Speaker 1: And not creativity. She toured for her album al Goo Suse,

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Speaker 1: released in twenty fifteen, and then she stepped away from

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Speaker 1: Julieta shares what happened during those years, including the decision

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Speaker 1: her daughter Simonnach, and to work on her latest album, Duistoria,

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Speaker 1: a journey of self reflection. Here's Ruias in her own words.

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Speaker 2: I had a thing in my career that I would

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Speaker 2: So I kind of stopped everything. I that packed my bags,

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Speaker 4: Boy that can beatl Focos. So we moved. We moved

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Speaker 4: like it must have been like five years ago to.

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Speaker 5: Job Boy.

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Speaker 2: Culture wise, there's so much stuff going on always. You

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Speaker 2: Before the pandemic, I had been playing a show called Intimo,

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Speaker 4: Do you have a piano?

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Speaker 4: Great? Can I play? You know that kind of thing.

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Speaker 2: I did a bunch of theaters and her wives, and

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Speaker 2: I would play new songs that I've been working with,

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Speaker 2: I was like, you know what, this is not going

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Speaker 2: get the songs that you're waiting for. You're going to

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Speaker 2: get like me, this is this is me right now.

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Speaker 2: And I would play some of the songs that people wanted,

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Speaker 2: But then the pandemic came and we're quarantine and I

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Speaker 2: I'd be like, Simona, it's son, it's the sun. Just

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Speaker 4: That's enough for me.

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Speaker 2: And that's how I started writing the album, which I

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Speaker 2: wasn't really thinking about about it being an album. It

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Speaker 2: I was like, you know, I kind of need you

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Speaker 2: I feel like I have so many I'm kind of

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Speaker 2: curious to know if there's enough for an album here,

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Speaker 2: you know, if they're good. And he's like, okay, send

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Speaker 2: and he said, you definitely have an album. I think

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of work to do and I would

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Speaker 2: love to work with you. And I was like, what really,

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's great. He gave me this to

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Speaker 2: detailed list of every song and what I could try

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Speaker 2: this one doesn't sound so great. That's kind of like

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Speaker 2: what made me decide, yeah, okay, let's do an album.

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Speaker 2: I think that every single song for me is a story.

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Speaker 2: It's always a story. I feel like I've always thought

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Speaker 2: I was in lockdown reading this anthology by a Chilean

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Speaker 2: He talked a lot about pain, about Chile and the dictatorship,

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Speaker 4: You know? Is it memory?

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Speaker 2: Is it like you know that he wants her to

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Speaker 4: And I just thought that was really sweet.

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Speaker 2: And I think I wrote like three songs or tried

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Speaker 2: My songword is is a lot about that search, about

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Speaker 2: trying to understand things. And sometimes when I say things

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Speaker 2: that's what my writing is about. Maybe I'm searching for something,

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Speaker 3: It's an autoquanta soon I Storia tristam Lass.

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Speaker 2: When we chose the songs, we just chose the ones

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Speaker 4: We actually did some.

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Speaker 2: Pretty big changes in some of them, like I mean

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Speaker 2: And I had it originally in a six eighth, so

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Speaker 2: it's more Latino Americana, you know, it's more like a

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Speaker 2: Contino that kind of thing. And Alex was like, and

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Speaker 2: I love the song, but it doesn't work with the

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Speaker 2: rest of the album. I think we should probably like.

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Speaker 4: Try a four to four.

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Speaker 2: So we went for a four four and we changed

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Speaker 4: Like, what you want to change to this?

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Speaker 2: But this is like the soul of the song, and

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Speaker 4: It was just so great. Yes, Sally, I'm coming I'm

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Speaker 2: It's taking me a long time to feel like when

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Speaker 4: I just always feel like, is this temporary? This this

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Speaker 4: And where we live now is an apartment.

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