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Speaker 1: Hey, what's up everybody. Welcome to the Get the Charge

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Speaker 1: Podcast presented by the Chargers Podcast Network. My name is

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Speaker 1: Stephen and I'm the host as always, and in joining

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Speaker 1: me is my guy Tyler. Tyler with some man, How

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Speaker 1: are you doing?

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Speaker 2: Tonight?

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Speaker 3: Ed doing about as well as a Chargers fan who

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Speaker 3: watched the chief Just when there's third Super Bowl?

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Speaker 2: But hey, we've got some good drop content coming up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Super Bowl was a lot of fun. I

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Speaker 1: know you guys had a successful outing over at the

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Speaker 1: Shoeing Household. Super Bowl parties are always fun. It was

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Speaker 1: kind of a lose lose for me personally. Living here

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Speaker 1: in the Central Valley. There's a lot of forty nine

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Speaker 1: So it's pretty good. We have a great show planning

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Speaker 1: for you guys again today. Mister Trevor Sikkima is back

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Speaker 1: and we went through a ton of different draft scenarios

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Speaker 1: this week. He's been in Las Vegas getting a lot

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Speaker 1: of draft intel and obviously he's been at the Senior

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Speaker 1: Bowl and the Shrine Bowl, so just had a great

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Speaker 1: time picking his brain about what the Chargers could be

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Speaker 1: looking at in the first and second rounds and who

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Speaker 1: could be potentially on the rise at the Combine here

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Speaker 1: in a few weeks. So draft season always sneaks up

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks, so it should be a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: And appreciate Trevor so much for joining us today. Before

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Speaker 1: we get to the interview with Trevor, of course, Tyler

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Speaker 1: and I are fans of the team just like you

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Speaker 1: guys are, and we're very grateful for this platform. But

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Speaker 1: the opinions expressed on this show every single week are

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Speaker 1: just that there. Our opinions first and foremost, and we

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Speaker 1: appreciate all of the great support from the Chargers and

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Speaker 1: from you guys listening and watching the show as well.

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Speaker 1: That being said, let's get to this interview with mister

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Speaker 1: Trevor Sikima. All right, guys, welcome back to the show.

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Speaker 1: We are so happy to be joined today again by

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Speaker 1: mister Trevor Sikima. Again you know him well from Pro

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Speaker 1: Football Focus and the Stock Exchange podcast. Strongly encourage you

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Speaker 1: guys to go check that out. They had some great

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Speaker 1: content over the last week or so from Radio Row

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Speaker 1: in Las Vegas. So we're very excited to have Trevor

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Speaker 1: back on the show today. Man and Trevor, what'sup and

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Speaker 1: how are you doing today?

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Speaker 4: I am doing great, fellas, appreciate you having me back on.

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Speaker 4: As always, We've had some news in y'all's neck of

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Speaker 4: which I have a feeling we're going to talk about

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Speaker 4: a little bit. So I'm excited to talk some bath

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's been certainly a busy ride over here

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Speaker 1: in Chargers Land. Like Trevor mentioned last time he spoke

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Speaker 1: before the Senior Bowl. So, uh, you mentioned it, Trevor,

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Speaker 1: let's dive in here. You guys did a fix your

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Speaker 1: franchise for the Chargers back in the day.

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Speaker 2: Back in the day.

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Speaker 1: I say that as it wasn't like two months ago,

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Speaker 1: but you did a fix your franchise for the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: And if I had told you back then that they

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Speaker 4: And honestly, like after he got signed by the Chargers,

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Speaker 4: that because building through the draft is the way you

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Speaker 4: that's that's the bones, Like, that's the foundation that you

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Speaker 4: You go back to Harbor. Some people only think about

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Speaker 4: the forty nine Ers days as well, and even before that,

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Speaker 4: of this daily era and it just did not come

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Speaker 4: But from whatever I've read and kind of what I

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Speaker 2: For him moving forward.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're really excited. Fans are so excited that the

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Speaker 3: news dropped. The day that our last episode dropped. There

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Speaker 2: That's a tough one.

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Speaker 4: And I remember responding to the tweet and I was like, no,

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Speaker 4: If I had to, I mean, they're national champions for

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Speaker 4: interior defensive lineman. Interior defensive line is something that I

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Speaker 4: know the Chargers are going to prioritize heavy either this

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Speaker 4: Right now, dude is just as strong as an ox

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think you can get play Korum

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Speaker 4: extremely productive. It just the running back group is I

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Speaker 4: Aj Varner the tight end I think that played at

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Speaker 4: he's just a really solid run blocker. He really increases

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's especially on defense with Jesse Minster and basically

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Speaker 1: you know Junior Colson is certainly in this group, and

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Speaker 1: same with Mikey sang Rustelle. Just real quick question about

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Speaker 1: Chris Jenkins because we are gonna mention the Combine which

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Speaker 1: was on Bruce Feldman's freak list, which happens every single fall.

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Speaker 4: I think there's a chance because he's he is a

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Speaker 4: really good football player. He just undersized. Yeah, I can

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Speaker 4: Man. You know, there's a handful of guys that I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned the all caps thing. I can't wait.

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Speaker 4: I think the big one is lie out to La

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Speaker 4: But if the combine performance isn't great, you might see.

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Speaker 4: are some guys who stood out during Shrine and Senior

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Speaker 4: Bowl weeks who could make good Chargers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

434
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Speaker 1: I recently want the Penn State center Hunter Norzad, and

435
00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:03,520
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of his. I know you saw

436
00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:07,320
Speaker 1: him down there as well. Really a low KI love

437
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Speaker 1: this center class in general, but I want to I

438
00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,520
Speaker 1: want to circle back here because you and Connor Rodgers

439
00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:17,119
Speaker 1: did your last episode about Lance zerlines mock draft, and

440
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Speaker 1: he and Daniel Jeremiah both had the Chargers selecting Terry

441
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Speaker 1: on Arnold. You mentioned quarterback a couple of times here.

442
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Speaker 1: It sounds like the bigger draft guys are kind of

443
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Speaker 1: cementing Tarryan Arnold as cebe one in this class. I

444
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Speaker 1: haven't had a chance to watch Quinnon Mitchell from Toledo.

445
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Speaker 1: You mentioned him as a big Senior Bowl winner, maybe

446
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Speaker 1: a potential combine winner. Is Arnold that farther that much

447
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Speaker 1: farther ahead than Mitchell and the rest of the crowd,

448
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Speaker 1: or do you think cebe one is still potentially after

449
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Speaker 1: the grabs for a guy like quinnyat Yeah.

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Speaker 4: No, I don't think that's the case. And I don't

451
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Speaker 4: mean that it's just like Terryan Arnold at all. I

452
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Speaker 4: mean I think that Terry On Arnold has all proceeedling.

453
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Speaker 4: He really does. Him getting unanimously picked between Lance and

454
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Speaker 4: DJ in the top ten I thought was a little surprising,

455
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Speaker 4: I really did. But the need makes sense. I think

456
00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,199
Speaker 4: the player makes sense for them. However, Queen on Mitchell,

457
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Speaker 4: you talk about guys who graded really well, really well

458
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Speaker 4: in PFF grades, it's really hard to have an elite

459
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Speaker 4: coverage grade. It's very, very difficult. The job is so hard.

460
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,560
Speaker 4: The job is so difficult itself, and you know, PFF

461
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Speaker 4: grades are simply you were getting graded off of, like

462
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Speaker 4: were you able to do your job? And corner is

463
00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:32,480
Speaker 4: the toughest position to grade well there. Quarterback is obviously

464
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Speaker 4: difficult as well, because there's so much up and down

465
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Speaker 4: that we hear it all the time, like you're gonna

466
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Speaker 4: lose at corner, Like the corner is kind of like

467
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Speaker 4: playing baseball, right, like everybody fails, You're gonna fail at

468
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Speaker 4: some point. Nobody's bat in a thousand and so for

469
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Speaker 4: you to have an elite grade at corner, it means

470
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Speaker 4: that you are so consistently winning at the position, or

471
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Speaker 4: at least giving so many impactful plays that it overcomes

472
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Speaker 4: the natural, you know, catches that you're gonna allow. Queen

473
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Speaker 4: On Mitchell had an elite PFF grade not just this

474
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,120
Speaker 4: past year, the year before as well. Nobody in college

475
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 4: football had more forced in completions than him. He is

476
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Speaker 4: extremely athletic, and I think we're gonna see that at

477
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Speaker 4: the combine. And the only real question mark in his

478
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:18,240
Speaker 4: scouting report came with press coverage because he played off

479
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Speaker 4: coverage most of the time. I whant to say most

480
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Speaker 4: of the time. I mean he played four hundred and

481
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Speaker 4: thirty seven coverage snaps this past year, only twenty of

482
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Speaker 4: them were in press coverage, which is an astoundingly no

483
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Speaker 4: low number. Yeah, he gets to mobile for the Senior Bowl,

484
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 4: they put him in press coverage, same dominant dude didn't

485
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Speaker 4: even blink an eye Like It's like he could have

486
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Speaker 4: played that all on, Because that's the question. When you

487
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Speaker 4: have such a discrepancy in style versus actual snaps, you go, Okay,

488
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Speaker 4: are you not being put in that position because you

489
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,679
Speaker 4: can't play it? Or is it just because that's the

490
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Speaker 4: overall scheme of the whole team and they're not really

491
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Speaker 4: going to change it for you because they don't have

492
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Speaker 4: the horses elsewhere to be able to run pressman coverage.

493
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Speaker 4: And it turns out he could do this all along.

494
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Speaker 4: So I really do think it is a battle for

495
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Speaker 4: CB one between Queenya Mitchell and Terry On Arnold, and

496
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Speaker 4: it might come down to who ends up having a

497
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Speaker 4: better combined performance.

498
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Speaker 3: Honestly, what do you think happened then with kool Aid

499
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Speaker 3: mcinstrey because it felt like so early on in the

500
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Speaker 3: process it was him.

501
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Speaker 2: He was CB one.

502
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Speaker 3: I don't know if it's a prospect fatigue thing, as

503
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Speaker 3: they sort of say, what did happen over the course

504
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Speaker 3: of the last few months or however long it's been

505
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Speaker 3: for you or other you know, evaluators for McKinstry.

506
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Speaker 2: Do you think, Yeah, I.

507
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Speaker 4: Think it's a little bit of prospect fatigue because we

508
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 4: haven't been talking about him for so long. He's still

509
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,640
Speaker 4: a really good football player. But here's the thing. McKinstry

510
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 4: does not have that elite, top tier athleticism that Queena Mitchell,

511
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Speaker 4: the Terry and Arnold, the Cooper de gene that Nate

512
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Speaker 4: Wiggins have. He's just not quite that caliber of an athlete. Now,

513
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Speaker 4: I think that he's plenty good enough to be a

514
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Speaker 4: starting cornerback in the NFL. And you want to talk

515
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Speaker 4: about pressman coverage abilities. This guy is so comfortable with

516
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Speaker 4: his back to the ball, and when you were playing press,

517
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 4: that's what you need to be. You know, there's some

518
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,120
Speaker 4: corners they freak out when they cannot see the ball,

519
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 4: when they're not allowed to keep their eyes on the quarterback,

520
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 4: they freak out. They just don't have those instincts. McKinstry

521
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 4: has phenomenal instinct instincts there. He is so cool, calm

522
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 4: collected when he is playing in trail technique and that

523
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,679
Speaker 4: is that is an absolute art form. Queinya. Mitchell had

524
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Speaker 4: the most forced in completions in the FBS over the

525
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Speaker 4: last two years. McKinstry was second, you know, but he

526
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Speaker 4: just he does not have mckinsrey. That is, he doesn't

527
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Speaker 4: have that killer instinct when it comes to takeaways that

528
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Speaker 4: some of these other guys have. When it comes to

529
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 4: those interceptions, he'll bat the passes away, but he's not

530
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Speaker 4: He does not have a ton of turnovers over the

531
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Speaker 4: last couple of years. And then I just think there's

532
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Speaker 4: a slight concern with you know, twitchiness and long speed.

533
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,879
Speaker 4: He's he's a really good athlete. I don't know if

534
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Speaker 4: it's at the level of these other four cornerbacks who

535
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Speaker 4: are in this kind of tier one, tier two, first

536
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Speaker 4: round conversation. So mckinsrey should absolutely still be a first

537
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Speaker 4: round corner But I think the reason why you're not

538
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 4: talking about him in the top ten like you are

539
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 4: these other guys is because there might be a little

540
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Speaker 4: bit of athletic limitation. Now, if he comes to the

541
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Speaker 4: combine and he runs like four four flat, like if

542
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 4: he starts threatening four threes, then you go, okay, never mind,

543
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 4: like to move this guy back up because he's got

544
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 4: great tape. But I just think that that's might that

545
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Speaker 4: that might be what we see there when it comes

546
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Speaker 4: to speed in Indianapolis.

547
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Trevor, you obviously released a two round mock draft

548
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 1: on Profiba Focus this morning. We're recording this on Monday evening.

549
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Speaker 1: It sounds like a lot of people around the draft

550
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Speaker 1: community have really started a pencil in offensive tackle or

551
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 1: rock Bowers for you know, the first round pick. You

552
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Speaker 1: and your mock draft said that you are are kind

553
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,360
Speaker 1: of hearing that it's wide receiver or corner. We've talked

554
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,879
Speaker 1: a lot about those two positions today. Why do you

555
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Speaker 1: think that is? Because it does sound like, you know,

556
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Speaker 1: there was a certain other analysis said that he's ninety

557
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 1: percent sure that it's going to be offensive line for

558
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 1: the Chargers.

559
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 2: Is that smoke?

560
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 4: Like?

561
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 1: How much do you buy the offensive line talk for

562
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 1: the Chargers? Let's start there, and then why did you

563
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:15,439
Speaker 1: go in kind of a different direction.

564
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't hate it, like I don't hate the

565
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:22,959
Speaker 4: wide receiver or the offensive tackle conversation with the Chargers,

566
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 4: I really don't. When we went through the Ficture Franchise episode,

567
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 4: I think that we actually gave them Joe Walt wherever

568
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 4: they were selecting. I can't remember if the draft ord

569
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 4: was solidified at that time or not, but I believe

570
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 4: that we gave them Joe Walton. The thought was, man,

571
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:40,439
Speaker 4: you get two bookend tackles with with Joe Walton Rayshawn Slater,

572
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 4: these two young dudes who are absolute studs. I think

573
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 4: that that's sometimes the best way to go about protecting

574
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Speaker 4: your franchise quarterback, and so that could be the best

575
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,959
Speaker 4: use of investment. So I definitely would not hate an

576
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 4: offensive line investment. You think about Jim Harbaugh and how

577
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 4: he built Michigan, it was straight up through the trenches.

578
00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 4: Michigan over the last two years has been one of

579
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Speaker 4: the best offensive lines in college football. And when did

580
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 4: Michigan really take that next step, Well, it was when

581
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 4: those recruiting offensive linemen that he developed finally became juniors

582
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 4: and seniors. He was when those guys were all playing

583
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 4: together as a unit, and we're one of the best

584
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 4: trenches offensive trenches in the FBS, so I don't think

585
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,919
Speaker 4: that it's impossible there. But you know, when I'm just

586
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 4: you know, talking with people having conversations, you know, whether

587
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 4: they're plugged in with the Chargers or not, I just

588
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 4: felt like I continued to hear wide receiver or corner

589
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 4: for that team. So definitely not taking offensive line off

590
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 4: the table, but from what I have heard recently, it

591
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 4: just felt like corner or wide receiver was the way

592
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 4: they were going to go. Now, obviously, like let's let's

593
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 4: be real about it. They just hired a head coach,

594
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,479
Speaker 4: they just hired a general manager, so it's not like

595
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 4: you've got these deep rooted connections to where these guys

596
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 4: are with the Chargers and you know, you're texting up

597
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,400
Speaker 4: during the season and they're already getting their scout worked

598
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 4: on things like that. And so I fully understand that

599
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 4: what I've been hearing could change, but that is what

600
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 4: I have been hearing over the last week or so,

601
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 4: and there's some really good prospects at those two positions,

602
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 4: and that's where I went, Yeah.

603
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 3: That's really exciting to hear all of that. At five,

604
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 3: you went with Rome Odunsea. I believe the last time

605
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 3: we spoke on this channel, I think, at least in

606
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 3: terms of overall not necessarily a Chargers.

607
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 2: Fit, you had Molik Neighbors over at Rome Odoonza.

608
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 3: One has that change and then two I believe you

609
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,400
Speaker 3: know Argent, but we had Argent dig ups and numbers

610
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 3: for us because we make him do everything for us.

611
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 3: And one of the things, one of the things that

612
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 3: he pulled up was that in terms of EPA per

613
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Speaker 3: target for justin Herbert's career through different targets, the EPA

614
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 3: for per target for the best wide receiver that Herbert

615
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 3: has had is Mike Williams at zero point four two seven.

616
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 3: The next closest is Keenan Allen. But that's all the

617
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 3: way at zero point two seven zero. So did you

618
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 3: sort of keep not that in mind? But like, was

619
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Speaker 3: Mike Williams in mind when you was sort of a

620
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 3: Rome Odunza here as a replacement for potentially Mike Williams,

621
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 3: Or did something else kind of sway your opinion here?

622
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 4: No, it wasn't really. I mean, that's a really good note.

623
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Speaker 4: Urgent's truly one of the best, and so it's no

624
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 4: surprise that he pulled a really great stat there. To

625
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 4: give you guys some context. But the reason why I

626
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 4: ended up going with Rome is, you know, I like

627
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 4: my league Neighbors a lot. I have him as wide

628
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 4: receiver two. I know some people who have him as

629
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 4: wide receiver one, even over Marvin Harrison Junior. I think

630
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 4: the combine is going to be very telling of where

631
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 4: Neighbors is going to go in this conversation of this

632
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 4: top three. If he tests the way that we believe

633
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 4: he's going to when it comes to three cone drill,

634
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 4: the explosiveness, the forty yard dash, all that kinds of stuff,

635
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 4: he'll be right there in the conversation. But I ultimately

636
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 4: went with o'doonsay because you know, Dounsay was doing the

637
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 4: rounds at Super Bowl media and every person that I

638
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 4: talked to who got the chance to interact with him

639
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,080
Speaker 4: was like, oh my god, stellar dude, Like awesome. And

640
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 4: I got that from people who have been around the

641
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,719
Speaker 4: Washington program as well. And that's not to say that

642
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 4: Malak's not I'm not saying any of this. I'm not

643
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 4: giving Roam any kind of praise to take anything away

644
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 4: from Leak. But when you get that confirmation that everybody

645
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 4: loves this guy, when they meet him, you think that

646
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 4: that's going to also be the case when you go

647
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Speaker 4: through interviews, which is very important for these players, especially

648
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Speaker 4: when the talent is very very even. You look at o'doons,

649
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 4: you look at the height, you look at the weight,

650
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 4: the bigger profile, and I think that Harbaugh is going

651
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 4: to lean a bigger, stronger player as he builds out

652
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 4: this team. So with both of these guys being neck

653
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 4: and neck in terms of what they can do production

654
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 4: wise for your team, I may prioritize more of the

655
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 4: movement separation skills that I think Neighbors has in an advantage,

656
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Speaker 4: But I do believe that Harbaugh is going to gravitate

657
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 4: towards that size advantage for Odunsay. So ultimately, that's why

658
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 4: I went with Odunza here, And.

659
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Speaker 1: I think for what it's worth, I think Odunsea is

660
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: going to test better than people think he will, like

661
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: people whatever, He's super athletic, and anytime that we talk

662
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: about oduns it's like, well he's another big, slow guy.

663
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: It's like he's not a slow guys. He's going to

664
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Speaker 1: be a fast guy. Wrapping this up, though, you had

665
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Speaker 1: the Chargers taking uh Ennis Rakestraw the cornerback from uh, Missouri,

666
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: which is an awesome name for a cornerback all time

667
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 1: name there. Uh what do you like about mister Rakestraw

668
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: And how do you see that potential fit with Jesse

669
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Speaker 1: Minter's defense.

670
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll tell you what. He'll come up and hit

671
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 4: like he will come up and run defense. And it's

672
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 4: a prerequisite for a Michigan defense man. I mean you

673
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 4: gotta be able to do it. You look at Will Johnson,

674
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 4: you look at Mike, You Sean and m Still. You

675
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 4: look at those linebackers. I mean, you do not get

676
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Speaker 4: on the field if you do not help and run defense.

677
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 4: And Ennis Rakeshaw Junior is he feels like he's second

678
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 4: behind only Cooper Degene in terms of run defending corners

679
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 4: that are going to get drafted in the top fifties.

680
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 4: So yeah, he's the reason why I have him falling

681
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 4: to the second round. I like a lot of things

682
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 4: about him. I like his instincts and off coverage. I

683
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 4: like his clicking close ability, turn and run. It's a

684
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 4: little bit like kuol Ai McKinstry, like just he doesn't

685
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 4: have that rare gear for recovery speed to really get

686
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 4: up because I mean that's the thing with Queena Mitchell

687
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 4: and Terry and Arnold, You're never gonna have to worry

688
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 4: about that. With those guys, like when they're in trail technique,

689
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 4: it's just a matter of when the quarterback releases the

690
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 4: ball that they are going to kick it into that

691
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 4: rare gear and try to cut it off or or

692
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 4: get the incomplete the forcing completion with guys like McKinstry

693
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 4: and more so with an extrake Shaw junior, if he

694
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 4: gets beat a decent amount and he's in trail technique,

695
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 4: sometimes those wide receivers can continue to maintain that separation.

696
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 4: And you'll love that from a CB one outside corner.

697
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 4: So that might be something where you know, when you

698
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 4: anticipated a little bit better understanding the spacing, which he

699
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 4: does really well, really well. I think he mitigates it

700
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 4: very well. You know, he's he's at the appropriate distance

701
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 4: off the line of scrimmage at the snap. You know,

702
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 4: wide receivers get into him. He's getting hands on these guys,

703
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 4: he's bumping them one way or the other. He's dictating

704
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 4: things and then he'll bump you and turn and run

705
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 4: so he can try to stay as close hip the

706
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 4: hip as he possibly can and then, like I said,

707
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 4: very willing run defender, knows how to get off blocks,

708
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Speaker 4: knows how to make tackles at the line of scrimmature

709
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 4: in the backfield. So that is something that I think

710
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 4: that physicality is getting. You know, his chargers reem is

711
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 4: gonna is gonna gravitate towards.

712
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Speaker 2: Love that gonna have to watch him for sure.

713
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Speaker 3: I've got a four day weekend coming up, so I'm

714
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Speaker 3: just gonna ask the final question.

715
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Speaker 2: Give me some homework. Who's the Day three running back?

716
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 2: I should go watch?

717
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 4: Oh wow, Day three running back. Watch watch Dylan Lobby,

718
00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 4: the New Hampshire running back from the Senior Bowl. He

719
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 4: is somebody who funny enough. I actually this just clicked

720
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 4: in my head. Some people compare him to Austin Eckler

721
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 4: because of what he can do in the receiving game

722
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 4: as a third down back. He had one game this

723
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 4: past season where he had three hundred and twenty three

724
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 4: receiving yards and it wasn't like massive, like deep chunk play,

725
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 4: like they just kept dumping it off to this dude.

726
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 4: He kept making a couple people miss and it was

727
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 4: just like ten yards, twelve yards, twelve yards, ten yards,

728
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 4: and it was just all the way up to over

729
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:35,879
Speaker 4: three hundred yards receiving. I know he had a couple

730
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Speaker 4: of big runs in there, but he is somebody that

731
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Speaker 4: I would definitely tell you to watch and then I'll

732
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Speaker 4: give you another one. Rashien Ali, he's the running back

733
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Speaker 4: from Marshall. He you know, it's tough to stand out

734
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 4: as a running back in All Star events because everything

735
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 4: that you do is based on contact. He can't really

736
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 4: bring people on the ground you're not really hitting. But Ali,

737
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 4: known for his home run ability, showed some pretty good

738
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 4: patience during the All Star week and so like he

739
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 4: was somebody who's waiting for the blocks to set up

740
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 4: and then boom, he's putting his foot in the ground.

741
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 4: He had a couple of really nice runs at the

742
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 4: Senior Bowl. So those are two Day three running backs.

743
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Speaker 4: I would say to get some eyes on there we go,

744
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 4: There we go.

745
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: Things that are definitely starting to ramp up for the

746
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 1: draft season for Tyler and I I think I'm at

747
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: like sixty guys on my big board now, So nice

748
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 1: getting all up there. So really excited about that. Excited

749
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: to listen to yours and Connor's coverage of the combine

750
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: definitely encourage anybody listening to follow Trevor and Connor and

751
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: make sure you're reading Trevor's content listening to it. This

752
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: was fantastic yet again, Trevor, and we appreciate you so much.

753
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 1: We will talk to you next month. Again. Man, we

754
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 1: hope you have a great time in Indy and help

755
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: you stay safe, stay healthy, all that good stuff.

756
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 4: Yep, appreciate it, guys. I'll see you next month.

757
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: All right, We'll talk to you soon, all right, Tyler.

758
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: Any big takeaway from our conversation with Trevor.

759
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely, the idea that it could be wide receiver,

760
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,479
Speaker 3: a corner in play at five for the Chargers wide

761
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 3: receiver not much of a surprise, right. I think most

762
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 3: Chargers fans, at least half a Chargers fans have been

763
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 3: mocking neighbors or a Duneesa there to the Chargers at five.

764
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 2: But corner is very interesting. But I understand it.

765
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 3: The Chargers need a corner, they need several corners at

766
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 3: different points in the draft or free agencies, so I

767
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 3: would totally understand it. And if it's not at five,

768
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 3: it could be at seven, it could be at nine,

769
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 3: it could be at eleven wherever. The Chargers could trade

770
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 3: back to. So exciting stuff there. I gotta watch more

771
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 3: of these corners, man.

772
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, the cornerback class is really interesting. There's a It

773
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: does really sound like Terry on Arnold has kind of

774
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: cemented his status. I mentioned that in the interview. But Dangel, Jeremiah,

775
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: Dane Brugler, Lancerline, all these guys have Terry on Arnold

776
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 1: as CV one. I think Trevor and PFF does as well.

777
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 1: So Terry and Arnold has kind of, you know, taken

778
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: that next step here amongst you know, the draft community.

779
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 2: If you will.

780
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: I think five would be a little rich for me,

781
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: given like how I feel about the wide receivers and

782
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: obviously rock powers. But you know, we talked about trade

783
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 1: down scenarios, and I think if you can trade down

784
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: a few spots and snag the best corner in the draft,

785
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 1: you know, that's a that's a positive outcome for the charters.

786
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 1: I think as well, if you can recoup some high

787
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:22,760
Speaker 1: end draft capital in return.

788
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, regardless, I do love the one two punch, and

789
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 3: I'll talk he talked about in his mock. You know,

790
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 3: the wide receiver in the first round, corner in the

791
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 3: second round. I think that's really solid as the unfortunate

792
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 3: you know, Jackson Powers, Johnson Dream has seemingly died. I

793
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 3: do understand why the good corner in the second round.

794
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 3: So yeah, looking forward to it. Maybe it'll be completely

795
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 3: wrong by the time we revisit this in three months

796
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 3: or so.

797
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 2: But exciting stuff. Man.

798
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's funny in February, there's always like

799
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: a lot of like, oh, like, I think that this

800
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 1: team is going to do that, but like a third

801
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: of the league just hired new head coaches, two thirds

802
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: of the league have new coordinators. There were six GM

803
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: hires in this cycle, including the Chargers obvious, So there's

804
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot more intel that comes out

805
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 1: of the combine. That's really where you know, the radio row,

806
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: it's it's about media connections and it's about you know,

807
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: interviews and everything like that. The combine everything is focused

808
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: on the draft, and so I think we'll get some

809
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 1: more information there. Hopefully you guys follow Trevor in that regard.

810
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: But last thing I guess for me before we wrap

811
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: up today, Daniel Jeremiah did an interview feature on the

812
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: Chargers website and he was asked about like what makes

813
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: Joe Ortiz so such.

814
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:30,879
Speaker 2: A great hire.

815
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 1: One of the things that Daniel Jeremiah mentioned was his

816
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: ie for offensive line talent, and that specifically like maybe

817
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: kind of raise an eyebrow, maybe not necessarily meaning like

818
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: first round, but maybe Joe trusts his ability to evaluate

819
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 1: these guys who are day like back in the day two,

820
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 1: day three prospects, and maybe they can steal.

821
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 2: Some value that way.

822
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: And that kind of tends to fit more of like

823
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: how the Ravens operated, Like obviously they drafted Tyler Linderbaum

824
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: in the first round and Ronnie Stanley in the first round,

825
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: but they it's not like they've been swinging for the

826
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 1: offensive line fences in the first round. Traditionally, it's been

827
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,959
Speaker 1: a lot more of the other positions you take second round,

828
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: third round, fourth round guys after that. So I have

829
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 1: been thinking about that comment from DJ specifically about Joe,

830
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 1: and then obviously, you know, having this conversation with Trevor about.

831
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 2: Corner and wide receiver.

832
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: Not that again, like we won't have any firm takeaways

833
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: right now, but it is curious that like everybody is

834
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: like offensive line for Harball, but then some of these

835
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 1: other guys are like.

836
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,399
Speaker 2: Hey, like, maybe wait a little bit on the offensive linetop. Yeah,

837
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:31,919
Speaker 2: that's the thing.

838
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 3: You associate Harball with great trench play, and that's true

839
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 3: an offensive line play, and the Ravens have a really

840
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 3: good offensive line. But you can also trust yourself to

841
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 3: take guys later and develop those guys to make really

842
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 3: really good offensive linemen, develop them throughout several years to

843
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 3: become a starter or maybe even very quickly become a starter.

844
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Speaker 2: And the Chargers.

845
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:50,959
Speaker 3: It really aligns with what the Chargers have been doing

846
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 3: with Jordan McFadden, which Mario Sallier with Brendan himis like

847
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 3: they've gone after some of these Day three offensive linemen

848
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 3: and developed them. So yeah, ekadu, that approach taking place

849
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 3: here too.

850
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Speaker 1: Yeah, either way, it's gonna be a ton of fun. Man,

851
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 1: I keep on saying this. But new regime, a guy

852
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: like Joe Ortiz, as crave as he is, you know,

853
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: I think there's a number of different possibilities. Whereas previously

854
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: we probably kind of knew like where Tom Telesco would

855
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 1: be heading, you know, like just because we had known

856
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,240
Speaker 1: his draft styles for eleven years, and everything is different

857
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 1: this year. So it's gonna be a ton of fun there.

858
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 1: Did you have any other thoughts about maybe a corner

859
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: wide receiver talk or anything else from our conversation with Trevor.

860
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 3: Not necessarily, but I do think this corner of class

861
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 3: is really fascinating with how things have really changed with

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Speaker 3: McKinstry being the guy and then suddenly you know there's

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Speaker 3: other other guys, and not only is it maybe not

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Speaker 3: mckinenstrey at one, it's maybe not him at two.

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Speaker 2: Maybe he's that third guy now.

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Speaker 3: So it's a really fascinating discourse surrounding the corners, which

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Speaker 3: could also present a lot of really good value for

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Speaker 3: the Chargers. Whereas I feel like before it felt like

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Speaker 3: you trade down, you're taking mckinstrey. Now it's you could

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Speaker 3: trade down and maybe do it again and still find

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Speaker 3: one of these really really good corner So I think

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Speaker 3: that makes it really intriguing for the Chargers and your

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Speaker 3: tiez and Jim Harbaugh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's a great point because like we

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Speaker 1: we come to the draft process late, and like I

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Speaker 1: come to the draft process and everybody's like, this corner

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Speaker 1: black class isn't very good. There isn't a Sauce Gardner type.

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Speaker 1: It's not very deep and then I'm like, I like,

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Speaker 1: like eight of these guys, Like, this is a good

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Speaker 1: class to me. So it is a really interesting dynamic

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Speaker 1: when you come to the come to the discourse late,

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Speaker 1: as we do every single year. But this is a

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Speaker 1: good corner class and I'm excited to dive into it.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to see who tests well. You know, if

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Speaker 1: kool Aid mckinstrey can answer those athletic questions, that obviously

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Speaker 1: only strengthens the class overall. So I should be a

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Speaker 1: ton of fun watching that group tests, in particular at

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Speaker 1: the combine the next in the next couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: Fun stuff.

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Speaker 3: Man, can't wait to see who who shines who as

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Speaker 3: their Darnaul Washington kind of day, as we mentioned Jordan

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Speaker 3: Dave as Anthony Richardson, just fun stuff.

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Speaker 2: These guys are just they're very talented, believe it or not.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know that there's a lot of negative feelings

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Speaker 1: about the underwear of the mix or whatever.

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Speaker 2: I love watching the combine.

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Speaker 1: I love it, Like I remember he didn't necessarily test

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Speaker 1: like amazing, but I remember like watching Chris o' lobby

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Speaker 1: run routes and things like that, and that was like

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Speaker 1: a positive workout for me because he was a guy

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Speaker 1: I was, I felt like higher on than most you know,

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Speaker 1: prospect fatigue was very real for him. But then he

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Speaker 1: went to the combine, had a great combine. So it's

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Speaker 1: a fun thing. I'm a draft nerd. I love watching

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Speaker 1: the combine, seeing these guys kind of cement their status,

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Speaker 1: seeing maybe somebody who's kind of like a seventh round

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Speaker 1: pick right now shoot up draft boards. It's always a

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Speaker 1: fun conversation and I'm looking forward to seeing how it

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Speaker 1: pans out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and heck, even if you don't participate, your name

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Speaker 3: could be Keenan Allen and things turn out okay for you.

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Speaker 2: Yep, under percent, numb percent.

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Speaker 1: All right, Tyler, Well that's gonna do it for us today.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, appreciate Trevor for joining us this afternoon.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate Eddie Levera and Greg Kim for producing the show.

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Speaker 1: Thanks to the Chargers for having us. As always, hopefully

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Speaker 1: you guys like subscribe comment all that good stuff does

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Speaker 1: really helpe continue to grow the channel and support the show.

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Speaker 1: Being said, we'll see you next week. As always, full

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Speaker 4: Hm