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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast are saving their best work

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Speaker 1: for the Theology Podcast. Welcome back to another edition of

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Speaker 1: the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansis,

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Speaker 1: and I am joined by room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler,

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Speaker 1: Chris Westling and Greg Rosato. What's up, boys, Hey Dan,

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Speaker 1: Let's make this one count guys. Uh, well, let me

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Speaker 1: tell you why. I'm gonna open up the kimono here.

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Speaker 1: That's repulsive. Little corporate jargon for you, a little corporate jargo. Uh,

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Speaker 1: stay above the tree tops. Um, I'm gonna hit you

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Speaker 1: with the fire hose of Dana. This is our last

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Speaker 1: show together as a forsome for a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: The old Zeus is going away next week making like

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Speaker 1: the Boston going to the Jersey Shore. Looking forward to that.

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Speaker 1: After that, Rosie the Boss, you mean Bruce Springsteen, not

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Speaker 1: not my nicknames the original Boss. Just pointing that out.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for clarified the audience. I've never been h

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Speaker 1: Greg and west The next week going somewhere. Mark, you

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Speaker 1: might be a little nervous. They might be jogging together

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Speaker 1: in the park with um a CNN personality. I'm going

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Speaker 1: to Cincinnati. I doubt Greg is spending his vacation there.

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Speaker 1: I have been to Cincinnati, though, and it's a good time.

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Speaker 1: I like Cincinnati, by the way, I'm sneaky leaving next

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Speaker 1: week as well for a period of days. Who's gonna

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Speaker 1: do the show? Well, we got oh, Colleen and Lindsey.

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Speaker 1: Maybe we'll be here. We'll be here next We'll be

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Speaker 1: here next week. Okay. Anyway, so yes, this is our

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Speaker 1: last show together for a few weeks. So let's make

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Speaker 1: it count. Everybody, open your kimonos, getting nasty. Um busy week.

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Speaker 1: It was supposed to be a slow week. All week,

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Speaker 1: I've been you know, tied up with this All or

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Speaker 1: Nothing series that is premiering tonight Thursday at midnight. It's

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Speaker 1: an eight part documentary on the Cardinals two thousand fifteen

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Speaker 1: season that, of course, the team around the NFL um

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Speaker 1: and uh listen, I'm guys, I'm about six thousand, five

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Speaker 1: dred words deep on copy in the past three or

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Speaker 1: four days. Not all one piece though, eight different pieces,

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Speaker 1: but pretty exhaustive. So if you um are a fan

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Speaker 1: of the Hard Knox recaps at NFL dot com, you

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Speaker 1: will love the All or Nothing recap. I like the

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Speaker 1: idea of unleashing it at midnight. That feels like an

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Speaker 1: old school movie. Theaters move. Yeah, I do like that.

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Speaker 1: That is uh. I won't be there to start watching

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Speaker 1: it then, but you could binge watch. And my my

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Speaker 1: buddy Jason Zumwald friend of the show, who went with

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Speaker 1: me to the premiere of this or Nothing thing, He's

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Speaker 1: gonna binge watch all through the night. He's a die

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Speaker 1: hard Cardinals fan, which is wild um and I was like, Jay,

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Speaker 1: watched Daredevil and I don't even like that show. Of

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Speaker 1: course I'm gonna do with this. That's zum Walton a nutshell.

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Speaker 1: So but the recapsule drop once a day all through

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Speaker 1: next week, so make sure you check that out. Also

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Speaker 1: special thanks to Alexis Frederick for Bust, who is a

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Speaker 1: illustrator slash artist based in the UK. I believe who

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Speaker 1: great poet too? Okay who who drew up some illustrations

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Speaker 1: for each of the heroes, including the Satellite heroes, and

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Speaker 1: you can check out our Twitter feeds to see them all.

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Speaker 1: Great attention to detail on each of the illustrations based

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Speaker 1: off of our non conversation on what's more likely the

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Speaker 1: other day. And by the way, this guy much better

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Speaker 1: at his job than we are at ours. He's a

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Speaker 1: true pro and not. It makes me think of when

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Speaker 1: Josh Raymer made those T shirts for us, which you

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Speaker 1: know Dan wore at West's most recent part did so

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Speaker 1: we have some interesting talented people tracking the show. Is

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Speaker 1: it possible of the people that listen to the show,

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Speaker 1: they're all more talented than us. Very possible. Speaking of

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Speaker 1: our most fervent listeners, I've got to give a shout

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Speaker 1: out to uh our biggest fans in Austria, Stacy and

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Speaker 1: Austria to go to the wedding here. Wow. Really, congrats

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Speaker 1: to Stacy and Andy and y'all fun. You crazy kids

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Speaker 1: When are we gonna start announcing like a hundred year

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Speaker 1: old's birthdays on this show? Like Willard Scott on the

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Speaker 1: Today's Show. When Willard Scott turns one hundred, we will

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Speaker 1: announce his one d I think he's still alive. You

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Speaker 1: All right, great show coming up today, A minus pre show.

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Speaker 1: Great whoa So bring the heat, by the way. Mark

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Speaker 1: also on television this morning, he did a strata matic thing.

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Speaker 1: I'm not pushing. I did not push for that to happen.

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Speaker 1: strata matic piece nfl dot com slash strata matic. All right,

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Speaker 1: this yet. I assume the Jets will be buried unfairly

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Speaker 1: the glass with the Irishman, who once again we'll be

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Speaker 1: batting leadoff for the shield. What's up, buddy, I got

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Speaker 1: if that was the drug that McClain failed, but then

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Speaker 1: you get your ten games. And the process with the

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Speaker 1: Patriots thing made sense too, because you're not allowed to

427
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:33,479
Speaker 1: cheat ohn unless you're the other thirty one team. Ok,

428
00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,959
Speaker 1: you're just saying, I mean Richardson went through the legal

429
00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 1: court process with this thing too. This is from last summer,

430
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Speaker 1: so some of it. Maybe that could have helped tone

431
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,520
Speaker 1: it down some. But in the end, you know, he's

432
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,639
Speaker 1: driving one a hundred and something miles an hour with

433
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Speaker 1: a twelve year old in the car, with firearms and marijuana.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I don't know what to tell you,

435
00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 1: but I have children, and it's not it's not I'm

436
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Speaker 1: not going to be going to him for the guide

437
00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 1: book on how to deal with you. That's not a

438
00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:01,280
Speaker 1: weekend in the Sessler world. Is actually elements of it

439
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,680
Speaker 1: sound fine, but you know, firearms next to children's feet

440
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Speaker 1: in a car not my just not you like, the

441
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Speaker 1: speeding and the marijuana. I'm not pulling things out specifically,

442
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 1: not gonna answer it, not gonna answer it. The final

443
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Speaker 1: suspension to talk about Johnny Manzel, who is wandering through

444
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Speaker 1: the wilderness of life. Uh, to borrow assessleris um Um

445
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Speaker 1: has been suspended four games due to a violation of

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Speaker 1: the league's substance abuse policy. Rap Sheet reported Thursday. Uh,

447
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,399
Speaker 1: that's I mean, that's just the beginning for Manzel, who

448
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 1: if he ever ended up getting back in the league,

449
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 1: which you know is very highly in doubt right now,

450
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,439
Speaker 1: he would likely be facing another lengthy suspension tied to

451
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Speaker 1: his domestic violence incident. Recently not to mention the guys

452
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 1: a hundred and forty pounds and sent out a tweet

453
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Speaker 1: this week in which he said, starting Friday, I'm going sober,

454
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Speaker 1: which really makes me worried about tonight Thursday. Uh. And

455
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,680
Speaker 1: I say that kind of joking, but at the same time,

456
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Speaker 1: when the dad's out there saying that he sons of drugging,

457
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 1: is is gonna die. There's very real things going on.

458
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,919
Speaker 1: So we might never see Manzel again. But when and

459
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,680
Speaker 1: if he ever comes back, he's gonna have a lot

460
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 1: of time to kill during what will likely be multiple suspensions.

461
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 1: But right now it's four games. Mark. I don't like

462
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Speaker 1: some of the spin on Twitter, and it's coming from

463
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 1: certain people that no sources close to Johnny Manzel saying

464
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,920
Speaker 1: well this this suspension fits right in with his plan

465
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 1: because he was really working to be in tip top

466
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Speaker 1: shape for two thousand and seventeen. That's not how football works,

467
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,719
Speaker 1: and how building trusts with thirty two teams are at

468
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 1: this point, thirty one works. And I mean, honestly, Manzelle,

469
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:40,159
Speaker 1: Kevin patra we gotta we gotta research Grid from NFL

470
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Speaker 1: research with all this stuff that had happened to him,

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Speaker 1: not on the field, just off the field of Kevin

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Speaker 1: patrack Well. No, Kevin Patrick sent this out of Johnny

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Speaker 1: Manzel and he couldn't even fit it in a screenshot

474
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Speaker 1: and it was rather small type. Kevin Patrick's him had

475
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Speaker 1: a six back by the way, that that I liked.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Manzell makes Sheldon Richardson looks like

477
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 1: the offspring of Mother Teresa at this point. So I

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Speaker 1: you you just hope with Manzel that he can clean

479
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,679
Speaker 1: it up before he worries about playing again. Like you mentioned,

480
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 1: he ways about a hundred pounds less than he should. Well,

481
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 1: I mean this offseason and we're all kind of tired

482
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 1: of seeing the updates of john how I know, Greg's

483
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 1: tired of looking at the Wimbledon schedule on his laptop.

484
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 1: I gotta find out one Ni Cory is playing tomorrow?

485
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 1: Is that my girl? Now? Who's my girl? You liked

486
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 1: Camilla Georgie, Camilla Georgie? What what spurned you to like her?

487
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 1: Was it? What? What about her game? She was knocked

488
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 1: out in the first round? Well, the Yankees are having

489
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,400
Speaker 1: a down year and there's nobody else playing right now,

490
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 1: and you know, the US got knocked out of the

491
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Speaker 1: Copa and Irish got knocked out of the euro Cup.

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Speaker 1: So now I like her talents, her abilities. I saw

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Speaker 1: on TV earlier this week, Big Hitter. Ah, what were

494
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:56,640
Speaker 1: we talking? But it is crazy, though, watching these updates

495
00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 1: in real time with everyone taking It's a totally different

496
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 1: sort of Truman show thing that is going on with

497
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 1: Johnny Manziel right now, and and it's pretty sad the

498
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 1: fact that he has a hat like his dad talks

499
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Speaker 1: to the media about he thinks Johnny Manziel is gonna die.

500
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 1: And then Johnny Manzel posts an instagram of him, you know,

501
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 1: a top a canyon in Mexico or whatever, with the

502
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:23,679
Speaker 1: hashtag like hi Dad, you couldnt. It's just another level

503
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 1: of bizarre, sad reality show that everyone is gawky at

504
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 1: that I don't think we've quite seen before. It's it's

505
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 1: an insane thing going on right now, and it's kind

506
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 1: of sad. He was a college star and then he

507
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 1: was supposed to be an NFL star. Now he's just

508
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 1: like a TMZ star. That's that's what his life is now.

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00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 1: It's sad. He's a one man bipedal baccanalia. I mean this, guys,

510
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Speaker 1: there's no way he's gonna become sober. He's committed to

511
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 1: party and like most people are committed to becoming better

512
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 1: football place. Well, it's it's it's not to get too

513
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,439
Speaker 1: dark here, but I mean it seems like it's you know,

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Speaker 1: I watch Intervention Um, which is a great show, and

515
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 1: you're basically watching people for a while for a lot

516
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 1: of the show going towards them hitting bottom, and you're

517
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 1: just literally watching them on their way to hitting bottom.

518
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 1: And that's kind of what this feels. And people like

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00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 1: to watch. Well that I think does when he's not watching.

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00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 1: That has like redemptive powers because people are that's their

521
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: family trying to help them, and often, you know, very

522
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Speaker 1: often they do they seek help, So that that's part

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Speaker 1: of it. Let me know, if Johnny Menzel did make

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Speaker 1: his way back in the NFL and became an All

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00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 1: Pro passor, would that be the greatest comeback of any comeback? Okay,

526
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Speaker 1: and he did it with the Browns. Well, I it

527
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,439
Speaker 1: would be in terms of to go far off the

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00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 1: grid and return. I mean, Trent Richardson's there, but this

529
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: is a whole another level of that. So as long

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Speaker 1: as it's former Browns, because Josh Gordon would be another one.

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe Justin Blackman came back and had I wouldn't

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00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,200
Speaker 1: call it in a rational fan fear, but no, when

533
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: is more consumed by the fear of a team from

534
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: a player from your team succeeding elsewhere? No more? No

535
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 1: one has drafted more near psychotics that are still making news?

536
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: Are you talking football only? What for? Like the greatest comeback? Now,

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00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of I'm gonna go all the

538
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: way out. You got the Jim Morris story in baseball,

539
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 1: right that they turned into a Disney movie. The guy

540
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 1: who was like a high school coach at age thirty

541
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: eight and ends up throwing ninety eight is a lefty

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00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: mm alright, magic was pretty good? Magic Johnson? Yeah, Yeah,

543
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 1: for the time when that happened and for him to Yeah,

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00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:37,880
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to think it's not at the level

545
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Speaker 1: of Johnny made it back, though Johnny would be he

546
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Speaker 1: was he was diagnosed with HIV, especially at the time

547
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: when he didn't know what that was right that well

548
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: and ended up you know, returning, but he's still had

549
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: a star semblance of his of his abilities and he

550
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 1: was a huge fan favorite. I'm giving this to you.

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00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: If Johnny Manzel's hoisting the Lombardi Trophy for like the

552
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions four years from now, you've won this debate.

553
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 1: Lance Armstrong would have been one. But I feel like

554
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: that's that's been colored differently. Now. Irish chimes of with

555
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,479
Speaker 1: Josh Hamilton another great comeback. Oh yeah, that's all right.

556
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: And finally in the news, Doug Baldwin, the Seattle Seahawks

557
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,719
Speaker 1: wide receiver who blew up last season leading the NFL

558
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: with fourteen touchdown receptions, as a new deal to show

559
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: for four years forty six million extensions signed Tuesday keeps

560
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:28,199
Speaker 1: him under contract through the season. Rap Sheet reported. The

561
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 1: Seahawks later confirmed uh six years into his career, his

562
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: third contract West is Doug Baldwin. Uh does Russell Wilson

563
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: make dub Doug Baldwin or the other way around. Well,

564
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: I don't think it has to be one or the other.

565
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: I think they're both good players. But you like doing that.

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00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: You look saying that all the time that wide receivers

567
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: make quarter doesn't apply to every situation. Okay, Odell Beckham

568
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: makes quarterbacks, Randy Moss made quarterbacks. Well, in this case,

569
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: don't you think Russell Wilson makes Doug Baldwin more than

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00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: the other way around? If you really have if you

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00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: were forced that, you I don't know. I don't know

572
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: why we have to do that. You like I was helping,

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00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: you know, I don't believe that. I think that Doug

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00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: Baldwin is one of the most underrated wide receiver. He was.

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00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: He and Larry Fitzgerald were the best slot receivers in

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Speaker 1: the NFL last year, and I think it's telling that

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00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 1: Baldwin almost every stat shows that he was the most

578
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: efficient wide receiver in the NFL. Russell Wilson had the

579
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: highest passer rating in the league throwing to Doug Baldwin.

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00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: I think you had a tweet up up that alley basically,

581
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: but how can how consistently was, and yesterday they had

582
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: the two thousand and thirteen NFC Championship game on and

583
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: there's not a whole lot going on. The office is

584
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: actually watching one of these games for once, and Doug

585
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: Baldwin making play after play, and now so was Russell Wilson.

586
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: So I think they are tied together. But this is

587
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 1: like this, he came out of nowhere for the Seahawks.

588
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: They do a better job than most teams of finding

589
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: players at low draft picks or off the market and

590
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: turning them into productive He's an undrafted player on his

591
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: third contract. Have to get to your third contract, And

592
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: I love that they rewarded a guy who's like their

593
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: guy because he doesn't have great stats. Mean, he never

594
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: topped a thousand yards before last year, has about the

595
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: same status time for the leading touchdown reception right now.

596
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: He definitely had is coming off his best year. But

597
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: he's like Michael Floyd probably has similar stats for his

598
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,239
Speaker 1: his career. But he seems like you know how they

599
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,959
Speaker 1: used to say, like is he a true Yankee? But

600
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: a Rod is not a true like Doug Baldwin seems

601
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 1: like a like a true Seahawk. Definitely, he's absolutely think

602
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,959
Speaker 1: you have to have your true Yankee moment. Doug Baldwin

603
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: have his true Seahawk moment. Yet I am calling we

604
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: have capped out on the baseball talk. He's emblematic of

605
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: their wide receiver corps, which doesn't get respect, but is

606
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 1: willing to play special teams, is willing to run block,

607
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 1: is willing to step up for other teammates. And they

608
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: don't need the attention. But I think he's that they

609
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: have that hard hat mentality. They'll do anything. He's big

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Speaker 1: NFC Championship game. I remember against the old Seahawks that

611
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: they won that there was a lot of bell I

612
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: mean the Packers rather before they lost the Patriots, a

613
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: lot of belly aching that the Seahawks wide receivers weren't

614
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: properly um given the credit they deserve. But now look,

615
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 1: you know he's being targeted in that offense. He's getting

616
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: making a lot of money. Doug. Everything worked out for you.

617
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: That's what's happening in the news. Good return me and

618
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: sometimes listen. He's a nice ballplayer, school ballplayer, may school plays,

619
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: hard nosed school ballplayer. Mark, what's up? Uh? You know

620
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: on the last podcast, it was asked of me, oh

621
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: was there any you know, riff raff nonsensical comments about

622
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: pointed at me while I was on vacation, and I

623
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 1: actually didn't even check with my sparrows because I came in.

624
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: I was feeling good, it was good to see you guys,

625
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: and I didn't I didn't want to, you know, necessarily

626
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: go down that road. I thought, if if anything had happened,

627
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: let's just let it go by. But you know, it's

628
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: hard not just to do research and to dig into

629
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: these things when you hear whispers and uh, you know,

630
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: maybe maybe our producers in a bad mood because he

631
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: feels the way I do about what we discovered together. Now,

632
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: I won't point out the fact that initially he said

633
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: everything was fine, but he's come around, Brandon, Can we

634
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: just take a quick listen to something that that I uncovered.

635
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: Speaking of Mark and photos and Instagram, Chris Westling upset

636
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: that Mark gets adulation for his Instagram feed is artistic

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Speaker 1: merits as as a photographer. And this is a direct

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Speaker 1: quote from west Mark quote, tries to do l a

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Speaker 1: empty streets. Not much to read into that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's pretty much black and white. Did you say it's

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Speaker 1: black and white? Like most of his photos. Did you

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00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: say it al right before, I mean before we get

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Speaker 1: into any sort of retort, Brandon, what do we call

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00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: that around here? Whoa? What is that? What is going on? Super? Super?

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Speaker 1: That's exactly And Greg, I I came away initially thinking

646
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: that I am so happy that when the boss was away,

647
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Speaker 1: I went out of my out of my directions, out

648
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Speaker 1: of my freedoms to say that I'm going to stick

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00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: up for Greg and go, you know, keeping a watchdog

650
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: type attitude. And I know that Greg did the same,

651
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: right Brandon, Greg asked, oh, do people actually like Mark's photos?

652
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: I think he does like a nice job, artistic phrasing.

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Speaker 1: That's the basic gist of what you said. So I'll

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Speaker 1: let you and Dance sort that out. Because Dan well,

655
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Speaker 1: I think that Dan Dan gets points for being an

656
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: A plus rabble rouser. Now I'm not being I wasn't

657
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: even being stinky Davis there by the way, just in

658
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: my tone. There wasn't like Greg was saying, oh, people

659
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Speaker 1: think that Mark is good. It was like more like, oh,

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00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: people think that Mark stuff is artistic. It was more

661
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: in that tone. It came across the wrong way. You

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00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: were being a stinky Davis with the whole conversation, especially

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Speaker 1: when you emphasize tries to that will your direct quote.

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Speaker 1: Here's the upshot. You guys had three podcasts to go

665
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Speaker 1: and do whatever you want it to do while I

666
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: was away. I love you all, I'm not even upset

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00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: at you, but a punishment I had to come up

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00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: with a punishment, and as this is for all three

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Speaker 1: of you, why would I. I will allow you involved

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Speaker 1: at all. I will allow you to appeal this down

671
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 1: the road, but the punishment comes before the appeal. As

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00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: of midnight, all three of you are being blocked from

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Speaker 1: my Instagram account, which, according to the way that you

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Speaker 1: speak about it, you won't even miss it for sixty days.

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00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: For sixty days. He didn't get him to play the

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Speaker 1: part where I said yours was one of my favorite Instagrams.

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Speaker 1: Part here that part west. There was zero editing in

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Speaker 1: that nothing. I just took that verbatim, so you got

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Speaker 1: why didn't got to eat the part in where I

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Speaker 1: said it was one of my favorite instagram That wouldn't

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Speaker 1: have sounded up very good because that wouldn't have helped

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Speaker 1: make the point. I think. You know. Here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: As a midnight you have you got a couple more

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Speaker 1: hours to look at those photos and critique them and

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Speaker 1: send out you're you're blocked from mine too. Oh, I

686
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,959
Speaker 1: didn't even know you have yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,

687
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 1: I love this. I love this. Yes, you didn't know

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Speaker 1: I have one more disrespect for my I and I

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00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 1: and I actually have often praised yours. I don't know

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Speaker 1: where this sense of lack of praise for your photos are.

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Speaker 1: You're quite a good photographer, West, I'll miss listen the

692
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 1: I don't like to see the kissing cousins fight. Let's

693
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: no more you know things like that. No more a

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Speaker 1: conversation like that. Let's keep it above the tree tops

695
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Speaker 1: sixty days. That's what were you just cheering thirty seconds ago? Literally,

696
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Speaker 1: you can't put me in a box rosental. But I

697
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 1: think I think both people got out what was really

698
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Speaker 1: at the heart of it, because there's a lot of

699
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Speaker 1: dancing around it. But there was a little Instagram related tention.

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Speaker 1: And now it's out on the table and that's all.

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00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: It's healthier. Now, it's healthier. I feel better too. By

702
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: the way, I will not we can tell I will

703
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Speaker 1: not appeal my suspension, mostly because I only use Instagram

704
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Speaker 1: one week per year. I did not feel it would

705
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Speaker 1: affect you on any level or anyone. But I'm doing

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00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: it for my own sense of justice. Alright, the healthy

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00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: competition here. You did uncover that. Thank you, Greg. I

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00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 1: don't know how. I probably is often West and I

709
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: are in the exact same place taking photos of the

710
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: same thing. That's maybe where from a lot of black

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Speaker 1: and white vistas. All right, let's talk about it now.

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00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 1: Greg wrote a banger ranking the top twelve defensive lines

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. And you know, Greg, as he's want

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Speaker 1: to do, he got really creative with his headline. The

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Speaker 1: headline on the article which you could read, ranking the

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Speaker 1: top twelve defensive lines in the NFL. I didn't I

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Speaker 1: didn't even title it, just sent it in one through twelve.

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Speaker 1: Scan shows me that Greg did not cheat my jets.

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Speaker 1: But how did you? What was the process Greg, to

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Speaker 1: come up with this list? Well, it's very scientific, hours

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Speaker 1: and hours of tape work, uh analytics system. No, I

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Speaker 1: mean the process was looking at the rosters. I did

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Speaker 1: watch some of some of the plays to help helped

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Speaker 1: me write UM, but I was looking for depth. I

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00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,720
Speaker 1: wasn't just looking for the best player. J. J. Watt

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Speaker 1: for instance, and the Texas didn't make it because I

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Speaker 1: consider the other two spots on their line average or subpar. Uh.

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Speaker 1: The Eagles, for instance, who have one great player in

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Speaker 1: Fletcher Cox, they got extra points because I think they

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Speaker 1: have their number five, their number five player, their fifth

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Speaker 1: best defensive lineman uh is probably the best fifth best

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Speaker 1: defensive lineman in the league. So they got some extra points.

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Speaker 1: They ended up being number six in the list. But

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Speaker 1: ultimately I rewarded the teams that had multiple top shelf

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Speaker 1: players and solid starters all around. So that's where your

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Speaker 1: Jets did pretty well, finishing number two on the list.

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Speaker 1: You gotta be good when you lose Snacks Harrison and

738
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Speaker 1: you're still number two. But they have a three man line,

739
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Speaker 1: and those three players Mohammed Wilkerson, Sheldon Richardson, and Leonard

740
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: Williams all have extremely high potential. And I like and

741
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Speaker 1: I like Jarvis Jenkins, a guy who I once gave

742
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Speaker 1: a making the leap love too as a as a

743
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Speaker 1: nice fourth reserve there, very nice. You have the Jet

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Speaker 1: Love go through the top five here, uh, the Carolina

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Speaker 1: Panthers at five, the New York Giants. We're talking about

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Speaker 1: that in a second. Of four, Cincinnati Bengals at three,

747
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Speaker 1: of the Jets at two in the l A Rams

748
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Speaker 1: at one West. I know you're gonna have a problem

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Speaker 1: with the Giants at four, right, It's all conjecture. I

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Speaker 1: said that, Yeah, I said, it's a more of concept

751
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: than reality. Like like, if you say Victor Cruz's career

752
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Speaker 1: is give me J. J. Watt and the rest of

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Speaker 1: the Texas defensive lineman over the Giants. Big names that

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Speaker 1: are all conjectured, but they didn't. That just J. J.

755
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: Watts a great player and he makes the people around

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Speaker 1: him a little better and collectively a unit. I mean,

757
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: you can't just say they don't exist because you don't

758
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Speaker 1: know their names or whatever. I know, I mean Willfork

759
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: and then their pretty good player. Wilfork is a solid

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Speaker 1: player that plays half his snaps at this point, certainly

761
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 1: on the backside of his career. There are other spot

762
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: is just a big gaping hole at this point, one

763
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: one of the worst looking defensive line starter spots in

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Speaker 1: the league. Do you act like they didn't have the

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Speaker 1: best defense in the NFL for the final three months

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Speaker 1: of the season. I think the linebackers in secondary deserves

767
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 1: some credit and J. J. Watting most of the credit.

768
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Speaker 1: And I guess why the Ram the Rams are separated

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Speaker 1: from the pack here is they have a J. J.

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Speaker 1: Watt type talent and Aaron Donald, But then there are

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Speaker 1: studs around him as well, unit Robert Quinn. When I

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Speaker 1: was watching him, Jeff Fisher was quoted saying, you have

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Speaker 1: to see Robert Quinn in person to believe how quick

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Speaker 1: he is, how quick his first step is, and what

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Speaker 1: I was when I watched some of him. He reminded

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Speaker 1: me of Jamal Charles or Levy on Bell going through

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Speaker 1: a defense. That's how he goes through an offensive line.

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Speaker 1: And yet this is a big guy. So the two

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Speaker 1: of them, Donald and Quinn, they might each have the

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Speaker 1: quickest first step of any players at their respective position.

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Speaker 1: So that two of those guys on the same team.

782
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 1: And then you have William Hayes, who has been a

783
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:55,240
Speaker 1: really good underrated rotation guy for a while, Michael Brockers,

784
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Speaker 1: who's a solid starter. They added easily. I mean, they

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Speaker 1: have a lot of people there. I mean it's almost

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Speaker 1: if the Rams at this point didn't have a top

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Speaker 1: one or two or three defensive line. With all the

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Speaker 1: resources they put, it's it's almost like they only know

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Speaker 1: that one position in football exists. They just keep or

790
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Speaker 1: in ressources. Well, they're good at They're good at drafting.

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Speaker 1: They are lineman, So maybe they just stick to that

792
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Speaker 1: because they know they're good at it. Their lousy at

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Speaker 1: drafting receivers. I have a question for you, because when

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Speaker 1: we were, when you were coming around, when you were

795
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Speaker 1: putting this together, you had I believe the Panthers and

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins kind of either or back and forth, and

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Speaker 1: we were discussing that, and now I'm looking at the list,

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Speaker 1: and it feels like the change quite a bit. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it feels like the Dolphins just got bumped. I think

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Speaker 1: you're gonna hear from Miami fans saying, what are we

801
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Speaker 1: doing at number ten? I don't have I I thought

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Speaker 1: that they were the Panthers were the better line. What

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00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: happened with your process? Well, the more and more I

804
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 1: looked into it and thought about it, and watched the

805
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Speaker 1: numbers and thought about the depth that the Dolphins looked

806
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Speaker 1: worse and worse. Sue is a great player. I put

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Speaker 1: him in my top twenty players in the entire league.

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Speaker 1: Mario Williams was one of the worst starters in the league.

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Speaker 1: Last year. I know he can be better, but he

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Speaker 1: wasn't last year and he's getting up there. Cameron Wakes

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Speaker 1: thirty four years is old. So in terms of all

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Speaker 1: name team, they would be number one two or three

813
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 1: seasons ago. But right now they're one guy and the

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Speaker 1: rest of the spots. Or question. I think you said

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Speaker 1: earlier this week that the more you studied the Dolphins,

816
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 1: the further they felled on this list. That's right, I mean,

817
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: and they're they're okay, They're at ten. We got the

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Speaker 1: Raiders at nine. I like them as a young group.

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Speaker 1: Uh Seahawks eight, Vikings seven, and Eagles, as I mentioned,

820
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Speaker 1: were number six. I mean the Panthers, by the way,

821
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Speaker 1: are underrated. After I thought about it more and more,

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Speaker 1: Charles Johnson is still in the bull and we know

823
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Speaker 1: that those players work and exist exactly and they're better

824
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Speaker 1: and I and I think this is true about the Vikings,

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Speaker 1: the Bengi the Giants in over the Panthers. I don't

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Speaker 1: get that one they the Giants have. My thought was

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Speaker 1: they have above average starters at every position, whereas star

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Speaker 1: loaded lailis above average. H Charles Johnson's above average. We

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Speaker 1: don't know what Coney Elie Is. He wasn't really that

830
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Speaker 1: good when he played last year, other than the Super

831
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Speaker 1: Bowl which he dominated. Olivia Vernon and David Harrison have

832
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: never played in the Giant system before. They're complete wild cards,

833
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: as is JP Pete. I might have overrated the Giants,

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Speaker 1: I can buy that. I think the Texans they gotta

835
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Speaker 1: be on this list right well, they are in a

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Speaker 1: little section I put up, you know, but I think

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Speaker 1: I mentioned when you it's like the best starting five

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Speaker 1: in the NBA if you did top twelve. Sorry for

839
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Speaker 1: another sports analogy mark, but like the Calves would be

840
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Speaker 1: in there because of Lebron alone and what he does

841
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Speaker 1: for the other players in addition to being amazing. That's

842
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Speaker 1: j J exactly. I think the Bills need to earn

843
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: their spot again. They should have fallen out of the list.

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Speaker 1: They were number eleven, Chiefs wore twelve. I don't think

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Speaker 1: the Giants should be on the list. For what you gotta,

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Speaker 1: you gotta project. I'm thinking go, I'm thinking what they're

847
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Speaker 1: gonna be this season. Overrating, I'm not counting what they

848
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 1: did in the past totally, although that's a factor. There

849
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 1: are some teams and you guys make good points. Maybe

850
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: the Giants should be allowed. That's why these are be lower.

851
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 1: That's why these lists are are fun. Some teams like

852
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 1: the Vikings and the Bengals are two that come to

853
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 1: mind too. Related to Mike Zimmer, they're better as a

854
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,439
Speaker 1: group than they are just looking at the individual names,

855
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:05,240
Speaker 1: like however you work it. The Bengals always find someone

856
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,760
Speaker 1: to take five six hundred snaps. That's effective, so whoever

857
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 1: that might be. And they have a great one who

858
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: punch and Atkins and Dunlop, and that's why they got

859
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 1: so high on the list. They're always better as a group.

860
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: Like what you did here, you have the Eagles at

861
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: six and the Panthers at five. And to kind of

862
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: neutralize a lot of flak that you're gonna get for

863
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 1: this list to begin with, he embedded a Twitter poll

864
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 1: that clearly shows the Panthers dominating the Eagles in terms

865
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: of public pain almost four thousand votes. And don't think

866
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't notice that. That's your first Twitter poll,

867
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 1: isn't it. But you also hateet into your articles. That's true. Well,

868
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 1: I just figured I had you're putting out fires here.

869
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,479
Speaker 1: This was a good movie. I was. I was trying

870
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:45,959
Speaker 1: to make I had a hard time where I should

871
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: rank the panthers. They once were ninth or tenth, and

872
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: I kept moving them up. Man, maybe I should have

873
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: put them even more. Maybe this could be like the

874
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 1: life Uh you know, maybe this could be like telp

875
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: Pablo and I could keep changing the art document. It

876
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: could be. It could be something that keep it's evolving.

877
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 1: Panthers keep moving up. There's one percent of our audience

878
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 1: that knows what telap means. It could be like the

879
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: QB index, except it's a D line index. You just

880
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 1: do it every week, have one for every position. Life

881
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 1: Dominate NFL dot com from now until the time the

882
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: computers die. TELAP is the Life of Pablo Kanye West album,

883
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,479
Speaker 1: which he is still adding to. Just added another song

884
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 1: about a week and a half ago that allowed that

885
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 1: he's trying to make up some new rules. It's interesting.

886
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: Come back to us, you put the new songs. Come

887
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: back to us. He was never with us. I'm trying

888
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: to I'm trying to bring him back to lay out there.

889
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: That's never with us. We'll lay out there. You got

890
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 1: you gotta have someones to add a new song two

891
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,439
Speaker 1: months after it was released, it's like or you're disorganized.

892
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's one of the two or a

893
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: completely crazy person. Okay, so that's a nice banger by Greg.

894
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: Check it out on NFL dot com. Finally, before we go,

895
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 1: let's let's talk about it. We don't have a ton

896
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: of ton of times to talk about it, but let's uh.

897
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: Twelve teams made the playoffs last year. Gonna real quickly

898
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: reel them off. Broncos, Patriots, Chiefs, Texans, Bengals, Steelers in

899
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: the a f C, Redskins, Vikings, Cardinals, Panthers, Packers, and

900
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 1: Seahawks in the NFC. I'm talking not even a gun

901
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:22,760
Speaker 1: to your head, settler, a blowtorch to your head. Imagine

902
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,760
Speaker 1: that thing just lighting up and then you burn alive,

903
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,879
Speaker 1: the flesh comes off the bone and you realize what's

904
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: happening before you perish. It's not a great way to go.

905
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: Sounds terrible. So blowtorch to your head. Who's not making

906
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: the playoffs? This group, I'm gonna act quickly with the

907
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 1: heat next to me, Washington Redskins, and well, for me,

908
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,879
Speaker 1: it's it's partly about the Redskins, and it's partly about

909
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 1: the fact that last year was so chaotic in the

910
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 1: NFC East, and I just see any one of those

911
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 1: teams could win that. There are parts about the Redskins

912
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: I like quite a bit. I think that they've got

913
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 1: a bit of a nasty attitude. I like their GM.

914
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: I think he's building a good team. But I look

915
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: at the Dallas that it could get with Dez and

916
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: Romo back could be completely I don't care about the

917
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:11,399
Speaker 1: defensive scenarios there. With that offense, they could go back

918
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,240
Speaker 1: and they won four games last year. They could flip

919
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: records with the Redskins for all I care. The Giants

920
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 1: are a little bit of a miss. You better care

921
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 1: because your face will be literally in flames. Well, I'm

922
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: feeling good about this pick. I think the Redskins can

923
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 1: lose one more game B eight and eight not win

924
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: the division. So I'm comfortable with this pick. Okay, Well,

925
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 1: one thing in your favor is any of those teams

926
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: could win the division. That's the thing. There's no it's

927
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: not I think much of a surprised. Giants if things

928
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 1: broke right, could absolutely win a division. Well, the Giants

929
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: do that every couple of years anyways, when we're not

930
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 1: expecting it, they're that division, and the Redskins especially benefited

931
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: from a soft schedule last year. I think, yeah, it's

932
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: gonna be tough for them to repeat. I think I

933
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 1: did a good job May Survives. I had to throw

934
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 1: a curve bowl here. I I had the Vikings all

935
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: queued up as the team. But I you know what,

936
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna make it. I think the Packers

937
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 1: are gonna take that division. But I don't see like

938
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 1: some strong wild card team other than the Cardinals, Seahawks, whoever,

939
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 1: doesn't win that division. But I gotta go away from

940
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: the Vikings. I'm saving them. I'm going Kansas City Chiefs

941
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: because that, to me, is the most balanced division in

942
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 1: football this year, and their best player on their roster

943
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 1: is Justin Houston. Is a giant question mark. The secondary,

944
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: to me is a question mark. After losing a couple

945
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 1: of starters, I think they've got they've just got too

946
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,760
Speaker 1: many questions for me in a tough division. Offensive line,

947
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 1: some questions there, lost a couple of starters. Everything went

948
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 1: right last year, you I mean down the stretch. But

949
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 1: they're good. They are good. They I had them as

950
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 1: they were on that best defensive line list. Uh, probably

951
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: the most unsung group of on that list on Terry Poe,

952
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: Allen Bailey, j Howard. But just like Rocks, they're just

953
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 1: so solid, and you get Jamaal Charles back, you have continuity.

954
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 1: I mean, the Jets went ten and six and missed

955
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 1: the playoffs. The Chiefs could go ten and six and

956
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,959
Speaker 1: missed the playoffs. That's a crazy division. I'll probably wind

957
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: up not picking the Chiefs to the playoffs just because

958
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:06,879
Speaker 1: I'm gonna want to change some teams in and out

959
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 1: and they don't get us going. And yet year after

960
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: year they the Andy Reid Chiefs overachieve over a chief

961
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:20,720
Speaker 1: got it, got it, playing words less funny, liked it alright?

962
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: My pick Don Rickles over here. I like Rickles. You're

963
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 1: Riles fan. Oh yeah, that's not the love this is,

964
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:31,800
Speaker 1: I mean like the last thirty years of his career.

965
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 1: But other than that, this has been a good like

966
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. In terms of West, like

967
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 1: um old Man West, because You Had Blood on the

968
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: Tracks is the best album of the year in I mean,

969
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: if you don't like Blood on the Tracks, I gotta

970
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 1: question your taste and music. If West was a comedian,

971
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 1: he would be playing like in the catskills Don Rickles

972
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 1: is a classic. Um. All right, here's my choice for

973
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:06,280
Speaker 1: the team that will miss the playoffs. I'm just kidding.

974
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: I would love to say it. I would love to

975
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: see can't do it, at least do it no because

976
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 1: I can't. I would love to say this is the

977
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 1: year the Patriots finally go down to flames. But that's

978
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: next year. What about your head? Would you predicted your

979
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 1: head would be going down in flames if you picked

980
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: the Patriots and predicted Brady's decline so declined, declining, Brady

981
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:27,879
Speaker 1: will still get them to the playoff. Tom Brady when

982
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: he declines this year, not if when he declines, will

983
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: be like the number of fourteen quarterback. You'll just ride

984
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 1: Jamie Collins into the postseason. That is a huge If

985
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 1: that's not a win, No, it's like he'll be good.

986
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 1: He'll be like a little worse than Matt Ryan was

987
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 1: last year. That type of quarterback. Just you wait and

988
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,399
Speaker 1: see if if that was true, I think they would

989
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: have a hard time making the playoffs. I mean Tom

990
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 1: Brady's effectiveness component in their effect in their team. I know.

991
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 1: But he's gonna throwt touchdowns. He's gonna be good. He's

992
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 1: just it's the decline is gonna be get you know,

993
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: you guys will see soon enough, uh West all one

994
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,280
Speaker 1: of these years will be right. The Jets are gonna

995
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,280
Speaker 1: suffer for your Oh yeah, the one will the Jets

996
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 1: start suffering? Uh? The Chiefs where my pick as well,

997
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: Wes and uh and then my backup was gonna be

998
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: the Vikings, which I should probably say there's like Minnesota

999
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,359
Speaker 1: radio shows ripping us when weever we go against the Vikings.

1000
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,439
Speaker 1: I don't have anything against the Vikings. Um, I will

1001
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,720
Speaker 1: only say that I do. I have this weird sessler

1002
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,760
Speaker 1: about the Bears this year, So I think the Vikings

1003
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 1: are vulnerable. I don't think they're gonna go down in flames.

1004
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 1: But I could see uh things working out a little

1005
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 1: bit differently, especially if Teddy Bridge or two parts Teddy

1006
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: Bridgewater we talk about him a lot, might not be

1007
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: you know, a real franchise quarterback will get a good

1008
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: idea this year with some better supporting casts. But watch

1009
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:55,959
Speaker 1: out for Adrian Peterson this year. What happens with Adrian Peterson? Uh?

1010
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 1: In his age? What thirty one, thirty two, Season thirty

1011
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 1: one and where he showed he didn't have the same

1012
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 1: burst last year. The legendary player, of course, but he

1013
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: needs to be Adrian Peterson to carry that offensive. Teddy

1014
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:10,919
Speaker 1: Bridgewater is going to stay at this level. I don't

1015
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 1: know if it all works out for him. That's why

1016
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:14,839
Speaker 1: I think another team can take their spot. I think

1017
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 1: we might need to ultimately put a sandwich on the

1018
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 1: Vikings because I'm going to stick to my prediction that

1019
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,240
Speaker 1: we look at Mike Zimmer as a top five coach

1020
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 1: after this season. Yeah. I like the Vikings. I think

1021
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: they'll continue on. But this talk about Peterson has me

1022
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:34,280
Speaker 1: thinking this is sort of becoming Dan's thing, putting putting

1023
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 1: all time legends into early retirement. It could be like

1024
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: a segment Zessler used to say, guys are gonna get injured,

1025
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 1: You say all time legends are gonna fall off. Well,

1026
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 1: by the way both things happened, Tom Brady and this

1027
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: guy to give up on Peyton Manning. Hey, well well

1028
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: how that work out? Well, I'm just saying, you don't

1029
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 1: put me in a box, bro, I mean it was

1030
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,879
Speaker 1: it was a jokey box out of the box joke.

1031
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 1: I don't agree that his burst wasn't there last year.

1032
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 1: I mean, let the NFL and rushing, and he had

1033
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: some great bursts throughout the season. He got caught from

1034
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: behind a couple of times. I just remember, and I

1035
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know if how a year off's

1036
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 1: still great, but as he's still the best, I don't

1037
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 1: know about that anymore. Open up that new stadium. They

1038
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 1: really did time it nicely. It's a It's just how

1039
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 1: you would draw it up. To open up a new

1040
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 1: stadium with this type of team, rising team in a

1041
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 1: young quarterback in an all time legend. I think it'll

1042
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 1: be magic. Don't sleep by the way. I'll do the

1043
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:33,240
Speaker 1: parallel there. My Tom Brady theory will be very similar

1044
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: to my agent Peterson theory. Still will be viewed as

1045
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 1: a top ten running back, but it'll be like Derel

1046
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 1: Reeves light decline last year, as you just start to

1047
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 1: come back to the pack at a certain point. You're right,

1048
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 1: the Vikings fans do think we're out to get him.

1049
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 1: I heard it. I heard personal. I heard this in

1050
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 1: the break room from a Vikings fan. Again, well, I

1051
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: don't think it was actually I think there was a

1052
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 1: hot There was a week or two where that where

1053
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 1: I get maybe where they're coming from on some level.

1054
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 1: But it's fair to with Heady Bridgewater quarterback. I not

1055
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: in love with the guys. Well, I was already on

1056
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 1: the record from some other segment that I forgot that

1057
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: we did. I don't know what the name was, that

1058
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 1: the Broncos were not going to make the playoffs. So

1059
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 1: I feel like I already used that and I was

1060
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:15,800
Speaker 1: more of an onion hanger. So I'm gonna go safe

1061
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 1: and that's your This is another one, yeah, because I'm

1062
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 1: sticking to that. I want to be consistent here. Here

1063
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: is a second team that will not make the playoffs again,

1064
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,959
Speaker 1: and that's the Houston Texans, a team that I never

1065
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: fully believed in uh last year. Anyways, good defense, you're

1066
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 1: right West. They had a stretch where you thought they

1067
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 1: were the best defense in the league. You know, they

1068
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 1: also didn't play like the best defense in the league

1069
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,839
Speaker 1: at times after that. And there's only so much they

1070
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 1: could do in that playoff game against the Chiefs when

1071
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: the offense is just absolutely collapsing. I'm just not convinced

1072
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: they're gonna put all these pieces together and be a

1073
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 1: great offense. I think they'll be an okay offense with

1074
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 1: a slightly better than okay, defense, and I like the

1075
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 1: Colts and the Jaguars more. I mean, if I just

1076
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 1: look at the stairs and the teams and who's rising,

1077
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 1: I like the Colts chances of winning that division again,

1078
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 1: and if not, I like the Jaguars. So it wouldn't

1079
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 1: surprise me if the Texans are third and they don't

1080
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:13,479
Speaker 1: make it back. M Lamar Mill, I don't have any

1081
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 1: problem with anything. I think the Texans have is wide

1082
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 1: arrange outcomes is just about any team. I don't think

1083
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 1: they're a bad team. They've proven they've got the best

1084
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 1: player in the league in j. J. Watt. In my mind,

1085
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 1: they've got a good coach that can create some offense.

1086
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: But it's one thing to try to put a defense

1087
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 1: together that's not easy either, and then have him gel

1088
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: right away. I think it's even harder to put an

1089
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 1: offense together with all these new pieces, and you're counting

1090
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 1: on Jalen Strong to step up in a couple of

1091
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 1: rookies and a new quarterback. If Weller works out, Lamar

1092
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 1: Miller's who Dan says he is and Jadeveon Clowney finally

1093
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 1: realize as the potential it's a Super Bowl contender, and

1094
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:50,800
Speaker 1: also you know you've got Will Fuller now across from nukes,

1095
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 1: so you've got an offense in place. I would say this,

1096
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 1: I think they have the best coach in the NFC South,

1097
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 1: and but I agree with your your conceit is not

1098
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 1: off base. They only won the division by game last

1099
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 1: year the Titans. If the Titans and Jaguars don't do

1100
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 1: what we think this year, I get close to it,

1101
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 1: we have major issues. I always got to be done

1102
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 1: with the ANC South. At that point, I default to

1103
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks into offense. That's usually the teams I pick.

1104
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 1: I think that's how you'll be right more often than not.

1105
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: And I think Luck and Bordles and the Colton Jack's

1106
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 1: offenses I like them better. That is some that's some

1107
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 1: damning with faint phrase by the way, saying somebody's the

1108
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 1: best coach in the a f C cell Well, no, alright,

1109
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,799
Speaker 1: but it's I also think Bill O'Brien is is a

1110
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 1: coach on the rise to I think he's a better

1111
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:35,879
Speaker 1: coach than he gets credit for. In general. I mean,

1112
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 1: he did a good job last year with with with

1113
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 1: Junk at quarterback. I mean, to win nine games last season,

1114
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 1: and there were a couple of games where they just

1115
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 1: flat out we're a tougher team than to play the

1116
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 1: team they played. I can't believe just called Cleveland Springsteen

1117
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 1: junk well loyalty. I don't need to be loyal to

1118
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 1: him anymore. I've I've taken Dan's notes that he's been

1119
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 1: writing down during the show, and it includes the phrase

1120
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 1: Lamar Miller is awesome with an exclamation point, and the

1121
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 1: exclamation point has a heart circle and there is has

1122
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 1: a heart as the dot. There will be some Texans

1123
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,399
Speaker 1: on the old making the leap list. I'll just say

1124
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 1: that multiple. They have multiple guys making the leap in

1125
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 1: addition to having J. J. Watt and the best coach

1126
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,360
Speaker 1: in the a f C. South football is a team sport.

1127
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 1: You need thirty forty of them. It's not brock Well.

1128
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 1: I know who one of them is, Like Croc, it's

1129
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 1: not that hard to figure out. But well, if you

1130
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:44,399
Speaker 1: blew up, plenty of time for that. Greg is up

1131
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 1: and out of his seat. That's not quite sure. Why

1132
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:48,799
Speaker 1: this time I'm getting Because I'm getting I'm getting loose

1133
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 1: for the big softball exhibition tonight. I'm playing, Yeah, you

1134
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 1: might be playing. We gotta figure out what's going on.

1135
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to this. I would love for you to.

1136
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 1: I don't know about that swing. That's a pop up.

1137
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 1: We not me, but the rest of the crew will

1138
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:06,919
Speaker 1: be back on Monday with a show and then later

1139
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 1: in the week. Irishman has been working hard, diligently on

1140
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:13,839
Speaker 1: the best of show. I think the first one will

1141
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 1: roll out uh next week, So we're definitely not back

1142
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 1: on Monday, which is four on the fifth. Wait, well,

1143
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 1: well we'll put some shows out. There will be two

1144
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 1: shows next week. One will be a fresh show, the

1145
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 1: other will be the Best of UH to be announced

1146
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 1: when they happen. Uh. So thank you for listening. Uh,

1147
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 1: enjoy your holiday weekend, fellow Americans and everyone else across

1148
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: the globe. We love you, we really do. Until then,

1149
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 1: this is Dan Hansons signing out four Quiet Star, the Mailman,

1150
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 1: the Boss and the Irishman hanging every buddy, I gotta

1151
00:57:52,720 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 1: hug coming for you until next week. M hm m

1152
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 1: are we How are we doing back there? Oh we're fine.

1153
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:11,919
Speaker 1: I'm just letting you guys get all this random crap

1154
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 1: out of the way now. Oh yeah, don't have fun

1155
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 1: on the show. Good good call. Producer