1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: The Michael Barry, Joe, Charlie Daniels, thanks for being with us. 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 2: My man, hey man, before you start, I gotta I 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 2: gotta hand you something. You asked that back paint thing. 4 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 2: Good gosh, man, what a great commercial. You don't get 5 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 2: double scale. 6 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: But you know, my double scale isn't quite what your 7 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: double scale is. 8 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 2: Really, I was sitting here your list. 9 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 1: You kind of wanted your back to be worked on, 10 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: didn't you. 11 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 2: Well, you know what the deal is. You just said, 12 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 2: that's that's communicating. That's what we're lacking a lot of 13 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 2: this country. It is communicy. I watch these politicians. They 14 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 2: don't get down to the nitty gritty. They tucking, you know, 15 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 2: circles and stuff. But that was great compliment on storytelling though. 16 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: But you know what I think about Devil went down 17 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: to Georgia. That's storytelling. And now the fiddles make it 18 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: all and on. But at the end of the day, 19 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: that is old fashioned. Homer are are the the Odyssey, 20 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: you know, telling a story the way people used to 21 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: around a campfire or on the back porch, the way 22 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: my pap Paull would tell me stories that before we 23 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: could read and write, before we had scripts, we told stories, 24 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 1: and I think that's still true today. The people who 25 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: are good in news, Rush Limball is the best on 26 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: the radio. He tells stories, and that's that's what any 27 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: good musician does. You tell stories. People still love a 28 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: good story. 29 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 2: Well, I learned a lot about life around a coon 30 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 2: hunting fire night listen to people for when I was 31 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 2: a kid, just listening to two older people talking experiences 32 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 2: and things that they've done before, and I mean it 33 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 2: just it was a you know, I'm with you. Of course, 34 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 2: I come up to day before TV and we just 35 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 2: had radio and people hunting, and people spend a lot 36 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 2: of time together actually set on their front porches at night. 37 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 2: We didn't have air conditioning. So the summer time we 38 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 2: set out and it was the time to talk. It 39 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 2: was a time to be a family. It was a 40 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 2: time to talk about any problems that you had, or 41 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 2: things that you're anticipating, or what was going on in 42 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 2: everybody's life. And you know, the family spend a lot 43 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 2: more time together than they now. We tend to kind 44 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 2: of see each other on the fly now, you know. 45 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 2: And I think communication is I wish that we would 46 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 2: be more concerned with people's communications skills. Some of the 47 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 2: kids communication skills teach them instead of quite as much 48 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 2: more learning. You know some commonation, Well, you know. 49 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: You're you're right. My son will turn six in a 50 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: couple of days. And a big deal for us is 51 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,839 Speaker 1: you say yes sir and no sir, and yes ma'am 52 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: and no ma'am. And even in the South where I 53 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: live in Houston, that is rare, and people are so 54 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: impressed that he does that. The other thing is you 55 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: look adults in the eye, because a lot of kids 56 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: have not been taught how to interact with adults, so 57 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: we insist you look at an adult and eye, you 58 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: shake their hand. And to see a five year old 59 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 1: kid behave like this, it shocks people because it's so rare. 60 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: But I tell you this, it makes such a first impression. 61 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 1: They're naturally gonna like him because of the respect and 62 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: the ability to communicate like that. 63 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 2: Well, now, I came up that way. That was part 64 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 2: of my upbringing. You say yes sir, no sir, yes ma'am, 65 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,399 Speaker 2: no ma'am. And I still do it, and I'll call 66 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 2: somebody up. I'll see the airplane securities. It was about 67 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 2: a third of my age, and I say yes ma'am, 68 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 2: I just can't help it. It doesn't I'll hold the 69 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 2: door for a lady sometime and she'll look at me like, funny, 70 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 2: I don't need that, I know, ma'am. I can't help it. 71 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 2: That's just me. 72 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: Do you ever, just do you ever just because you 73 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: feel like you should just pat her on the bottom, 74 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: I mean, nothing harmful and just no, no, I can't 75 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: really do that anymore. Let's talk about your career, Yes, 76 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: I am, let's let's talk about your career. Your first 77 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: song is I Understand that You're You're that kind of 78 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: that that puts you on the map, was recorded by 79 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 1: Elvis Presley. What was that like? 80 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 2: Well, it was about all the good adjectives you can 81 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 2: possibly think of to say it. I wrote this song 82 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 2: with a friend of mine, Bob Johnston, in Nashville, on 83 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 2: a trip that I took there to visit him for 84 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 2: a songwriting trip. Actually we wrote together, and Elvis held 85 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 2: it for about a year in his what he called 86 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 2: a single portfolio and finally recorded it. And I mean 87 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 2: it was on the flip side of kissing Cousins, but 88 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 2: both sides of Elvins. Elvis's stuff was get in those days, 89 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 2: as you will remember, it here and it was like, 90 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 2: it's like a dream. I'm just like, this can't be 91 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 2: happening to me, because I never had anything like that 92 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 2: happen to me. I never had any you know, anything 93 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 2: on the national level happened. And when the King, the 94 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 2: undisputed greatest, most you know, the most influential entertainer of 95 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 2: our time, that's what it was was. You know, when 96 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 2: he got a song that I had something to do 97 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 2: with writing, it just just blew me away. Man. 98 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 1: It has to be amazing to hear him singing that. 99 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: When you when you wrote Devil went down to Georgia, 100 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: did you have any sense that that that thing was 101 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: going to be ten percent to hit it? I mean, 102 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: did you have a sense of that? Because I've had 103 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 1: musicians that I've talked to off air their biggest hit 104 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 1: and they go, man, I had no It was just 105 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: a fun song. 106 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 2: I had an idea that it would do pretty good. 107 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 2: And I tell you the reason why. I was back 108 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 2: in the day of a R radio out more any radio, 109 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 2: and you know they would a lot of they were 110 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 2: not the bubble knots what we call bubblegum station. The 111 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 2: top forty stations would play a lot of our stuff, 112 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 2: but they had our stations did I thought it would 113 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 2: be good for them. I thought that a lot of 114 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 2: them would pick it up. And I actually did two versions. 115 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 2: I did one a SOOV and one so OG version, 116 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 2: and I did one because I thought, well, if the 117 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 2: top fortyes two pick it up, very sure not going 118 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 2: to play that other version. So you know, I did 119 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 2: the two versions of it for that reason. So I 120 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 2: thought it would do pretty good. But we're sitting here 121 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 2: all these years after the fact that I did that 122 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 2: dug on thing, and you know, in nineteen seventy nine, 123 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 2: and it's still the most requested song we did, and 124 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 2: it's still a you know, very viable part of our 125 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 2: music certainly. And I think of Americana music right now. 126 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: What was the basis for that one? Where'd that come from? 127 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 1: Just out of nowhere? 128 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 2: Necessity? Being new mother of them mentioned we had done 129 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 2: wreck the songs, We had written songs, we had rehearsed songs. 130 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 2: We were ready. We went into studio to record them. 131 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 2: We were ready to row. And we come to the 132 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 2: glaring conclusion we did not have a fill ten and 133 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 2: that we needed one. Why we did not decide that 134 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 2: and I do not know, but we literally took a break, 135 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 2: moved the equipment out of a recording studio into the 136 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 2: rehearsal studio and I went in. I had this is 137 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 2: where this thing came from, and just devil went down 138 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 2: in Georgia's in my mind, so I said, I went 139 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 2: to the band. We started to just start here, do something. 140 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 2: Do this that went down in Georgia. Everybody started, you know, 141 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 2: adding their ideas, and the task came over with that 142 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 2: dot on on on and we just do it on it. 143 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 2: I went off, wrote the lyrics and we went back recorded. 144 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 2: It's that some point it was something we needed a 145 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 2: fiddle song that hadn't be the one we wrote. 146 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: But some of the lyrics in that are just they're 147 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: just so out there. Where did that come from? 148 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 2: I don't know. It's it's my style song right now. 149 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 2: I mean it's just my the way I think about things, 150 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 2: you know, It's just I heard Bob Delim say one time, 151 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 2: who I have the greatest admiration for. I think he's 152 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 2: the one of the greatest American forts that ever lived. 153 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 2: Where he took what he does with the English language. 154 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 2: He said he was listening to some of his old 155 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 2: stuff like you know, darknesses, a break or done and 156 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 2: this and that and the other. He said, right, you 157 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 2: know where it came from. You don't make that way anymore. 158 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 2: But that was how his mind operated at that time, 159 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 2: and I guess it's kind of the same way with me. 160 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 2: It used to be. When I would start thinking about 161 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 2: a song, a lot of the time, it was my 162 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 2: mind would started gravitating towards actually telling the story with 163 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 2: the beginning the middle of the ending. And that's kind 164 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 2: of you know, once I got started, I kind of 165 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 2: you know the story obviously, and I'm gonna let the 166 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 2: devil win, but you know how you're gonna go about 167 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 2: doing this an old story with just a new twist 168 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 2: to it. So that was kind of legend to Wooldiswall 169 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 2: these songs that are actually stories that that's just kind 170 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 2: of how my mind operated at the time, was just 171 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 2: tell the stories. 172 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: I have about a minute left, and I won't hold 173 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: you anymore. But what what went through your mind when 174 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: you saw what happened to Hank Junior when he went 175 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: on Fox and Friends and they asked him his opinion 176 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: and he gave it, and then everybody wanted to trash him. 177 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 2: It made me feel that it solidified my thought that 178 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,119 Speaker 2: political greatness is just completely out here. And Hank Junior 179 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 2: was not comparing the president with him. He was making 180 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 2: an analogy. It was just an analogy. I heard him 181 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 2: say it. And the fact after he was making an analogy, 182 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 2: they just you know, if anybody else, it wouldn't have 183 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 2: made any difference. If he'll been they'll punting there. He 184 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 2: could have been Eric cl Well, not Eric Clapton, but 185 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 2: uh Ray's thing or somebody. Nobody would have talked a 186 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 2: thing about it. You know, so well, he's just making 187 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 2: an analogy. But since it was Hank, and just say, 188 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 2: no where Hanks now is political because he don't make 189 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 2: no bones about it. Man, No, he done, And I'll 190 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 2: take tell you what he wants, what he what he 191 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 2: wants to say. But I thought he was ridiculous. And 192 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you something else. Monday night football will 193 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 2: never be the same without hearing him saying, oh, you're 194 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 2: ready fucking football. I mean that's Monday night football to me, 195 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 2: Yes it is. 196 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 1: I'm in the mood at that point. Charlie Daniels, thanks 197 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: for being with us. 198 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 2: Thank you, my friend, God bless you have a good trip. 199 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 2: To Africa. We'll talk to you after me Christmas. Everybody 200 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 2: in Houston. 201 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: Yes, sir, that's the soundtrack of my life right there. 202 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 1: If you could live somebody else's life, I don't care 203 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: how bless yours has been, you know, tell me Charlie 204 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: Daniels wouldn't be at the top of that imagine. You know, 205 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:01,959 Speaker 1: people say to me all the time, man, Michael, I 206 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: wish I could say what you say, because you say 207 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 1: exactly what I think. I wish I could say it. Well, 208 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: let me take that to another level. I wish I 209 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: could sing what I say, because that's what Charlie Daniels does. 210 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: Charlie Daniels, Yes, sure. It must just be so good 211 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: to be you. All these people love you. Does anybody 212 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 1: not love you? I mean, has there ever been some 213 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: in the world that scares me to think? 214 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 2: Well? You know I right. I write two columns for 215 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 2: a website every every week, and I get I get things, 216 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 2: you know, from people. I mean, it's not he byo 217 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 2: Bini means or anything like that. There's people are very 218 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 2: much I tell you don't like you very much. As 219 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 2: a Westboro Baptist. 220 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: Church, yeah, because some of them are. 221 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 2: That will continue to do so because I think I 222 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 2: have to think very bunch of go down, no good scumbags. 223 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't have very Christian thoughts towards them. 224 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 2: They're not wall You don't worry. There's nothing Christian about 225 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 2: these people. You know. 226 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if you If you follow there's a 227 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: Twitter site a guy out of Nashville, and he goes 228 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: by the site not Kenny Rodgers, and he posted on 229 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: December seventh, he wrote, if I had a time machine 230 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: and go back, I would take the twenty nine hundred 231 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: and twenty members of the Westboro Baptist Church and replace 232 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: them with the Pearl Harbor veterans. That says it pretty 233 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: darn rail. 234 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 2: I don't believe they've got that name members. 235 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: Michael No, but that's how many died there. We could 236 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: rouse them and their sympathizers here you go. 237 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 2: Well, you know what I get. They're always threatening to 238 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 2: always threatening to pick it us. They've showed up. I 239 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 2: think one time of all the times that they have 240 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 2: threatened to do it, they do all this bluster. I'll 241 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 2: bet you seventy five percent or more of the time 242 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 2: that they put on their website that they're gonna. 243 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't do it. They just want attention. 244 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's quick, give them any Well, yeah. 245 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: You're right. You know, Billy Joe Shaver had to shoot 246 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: a guy a couple of years ago, but in state 247 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: of Texas. He ain't going to jail. Ford. Have you 248 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 1: ever just had to put a country ass whooping on 249 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:55,079 Speaker 1: somebody at a concert? 250 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 2: No, I haven't, not in a lot, well, not actually 251 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 2: the concert anytime, because I kind of stirreclear all that 252 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 2: kind of stuff. But I have. I've had a few 253 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 2: kit scuff back when I used to work in the 254 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 2: in the Birkyohds. You know, you couldn't keep from it 255 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 2: im until they get right in your face. But I 256 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 2: try to, you know, I try to get away from 257 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 2: any of that sort of thing that I can. Of course, 258 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 2: I'm seventy five now. I couldn't flip my way out 259 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 2: of wet paper bag, so I had to quit kind 260 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 2: of be easy on it. But you know, I believe 261 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,079 Speaker 2: one of the things that I noticed it to tell 262 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 2: about the bullying in school. You know, it's a big, 263 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 2: big problem. I realized it's a big problem. But you know, 264 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 2: when I was a kid, these bullies. I will give 265 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 2: you an example or nothing. I remember having wild North 266 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 2: Carolina's a guy down there, and I won't mention his name. 267 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 2: This guy literally went around his bicycle at night and 268 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 2: would find kid younger than he was and beat him up. 269 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 2: He was known for it. Kids were terrified of it. 270 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 2: I was riding there. Of course, he never would bother 271 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 2: me because I was, you know, big off, but had 272 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 2: the younger kids. I went by a church one time 273 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 2: and there was a whole slew of little kid got 274 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,439 Speaker 2: there on their bicycle waiting outside this. I said, what 275 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 2: are y'all doing? They said, we got Richard pinned up 276 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,959 Speaker 2: in there? I said, what what you well? He said, 277 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,319 Speaker 2: we got him pinned up in there. We're gonna get 278 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 2: him when he comes out, waiting for him come out. 279 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 2: And this guy was in that church. He literally took 280 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 2: sanctuary in the church that were in the park, networking 281 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 2: he or something, and he was just terrified. Somehow got 282 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 2: out the door and got on his bicycle and took 283 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 2: off the street with a whole army of little kids 284 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 2: in behind him chasing me. The point, then, here's the 285 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 2: point I'm making by saying this. In my day, bullies 286 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 2: got there to come up. But if you mess with 287 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 2: somebody in school and you mistreating him. There was a 288 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 2: very good possibility when you walked around the corner of 289 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 2: their big brother was gonna be standing there waiting on you, 290 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 2: because we had a lot of kids like that at 291 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 2: big Brothers. If not, you finally put something on enough 292 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 2: on somebody with they turn and said, I don't care 293 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 2: what you do to me. I'm gonna kick your butt 294 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 2: and I'm gonna do it with the two before. I'm 295 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 2: gonna do it my foot, my fist, anything I can 296 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 2: get my hands on. You're not gonna mess with me anymore. 297 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,079 Speaker 2: And that's the problem with these these you know these 298 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 2: were too politically correct by these people. They their bus 299 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 2: kick man. 300 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: Well and you know that that's that's absolutely that story 301 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 1: here and you tell that story reminded me of an 302 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: old Jerry Clower story where they got up in the 303 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: in the tree and he had set shoot up in 304 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:14,839 Speaker 1: here so we can get some relief. I don't know 305 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: if you're a. 306 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 2: Jerry, Yeah, shoot up in the monsters. We got to 307 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 2: have some relief. 308 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: I'm remembering the line of the uh David allen co song. 309 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: I think it's long haired redneck and he says uh, 310 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: something to affect the loudmouth in the corners getting to 311 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: me talking about my ear rings in my hair. I 312 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: guess he had read the signs that said I once 313 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: went to prison. Somebody ought to warming warning before I 314 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: knocked him off his chair. I kind of always figured 315 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: that you probably had to do that a time or two. 316 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 2: Well, I really had. I'm more of a play cater. 317 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 2: I don't want to bother with good body, and usually 318 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 2: went him. I've got a bunch of people with me, 319 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 2: and it feels I started. It ain't good for nobody, 320 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 2: so uh but you know, I just that's the same 321 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 2: with then her. I look at these stories about these 322 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 2: these kids that are put through these horrible things. You know, 323 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 2: it's like people need to children to stand up for themselves, win, 324 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 2: lose to draw. 325 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: You know, well, but isn't that really the problem when 326 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: you got a zero tolerance in the schools and you 327 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: don't We've had cont We're going to have conflict as 328 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: long as we have individuals teach the kids to resolve conflict. 329 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,839 Speaker 1: That's part of growing up, instead of telling them that 330 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: that you can't deal there's always going to be a 331 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: bully and the kid can't hit back or he'll get 332 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: in trouble. And what do you get out of that? 333 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: Worst bullying? 334 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 2: That's right? And you know the thing about it is 335 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 2: I would buy any kids that are being or being bullied, 336 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 2: you know, don't put up with it, don't do it, 337 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 2: don't take it. 338 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: Well. 339 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 2: I teach. 340 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: I teach my son and he goes to a private school, 341 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: and they the teachers. One of them listened one time 342 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: and just was scandalized that I said this. But I said, 343 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: first you tell the teacher that. At first you tell 344 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: the student it's got to stop, and then you tell 345 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: the teacher it's got to stop. And then at that 346 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: point you bloody his nose and he will not do 347 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: it again. I think I stand to teach kids a. 348 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 2: Little bit if he does bloody his nose again. 349 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. When you're so, you go so, 350 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: you grab your cup of hot tea, You sit out 351 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: on the back porch. You got a hound dog that 352 00:14:58,520 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: sits right next to you. 353 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 2: I don't have a hand dog I got, but you 354 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 2: know I do grab. I do grab a cup of 355 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 2: hot tea, and I my first thing I do in 356 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 2: the morning is I usually get my Bible and read it. 357 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 2: How I read some Old Testament and New Testaments, and 358 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 2: uh kind of started off that way and going for 359 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 2: Mari depitling on what I've got to do if I've 360 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 2: got to of course, if I'm on the road, it's 361 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 2: still different situation if I'm a home You know, I 362 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 2: love shooting guns. I got a whole bunch of guns 363 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 2: that I really enjoy shooting. I do a lot of 364 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 2: target practice and stuff. And I don't have time to hunt. 365 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 2: I wish i'd love hunt, but I just don't have 366 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 2: time to do it by jam. And I love riding horses, 367 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 2: uh keep horses. I love uh well, I love it 368 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 2: hitting golf balls. I got this step named rope Tator 369 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 2: Cup messed up this year and I ain't peble play 370 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 2: this year. But do you have no I got a 371 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 2: little place out back. I hit them out in the pasture. 372 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 2: I got a little pat out there and hit them 373 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 2: out the passion and we have to come back up 374 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 2: and bring them back up and hit them again. 375 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: What is what is the most redneck thing that Charlie 376 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: Daniels does in the course of a day like this? Yeah, 377 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: that's pretty redneck right there. 378 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I told I told uh, I 379 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 2: told you Fox worried about this one. I thought was 380 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 2: pretty ridic. We was coming up the road one time, 381 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 2: but I lived old sixtenths of a mile, so there's a 382 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 2: road because of my house off off the highway. And 383 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 2: we were driving along and the bus was going up 384 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 2: the house, coming up the road and I saw just 385 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 2: that nin comperhead laying after right, and I said, they 386 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 2: hit that sucker man Ron, you know, he just laying 387 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 2: out there and he ran over him and he popped 388 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 2: like a bicycle. To you, I've never I mean, I 389 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 2: guess the way that bus hit me to put so 390 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 2: much your any skinny with. 391 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: So that's what Steve row wrote about right Copperhead Road, 392 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: That's what That's that whole story. 393 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 2: I told Trevor, I said, you know, if I just 394 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 2: you might be a ridic. You're copperheads that your bus 395 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 2: laying out on your driveway. 396 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: Well no, but the question is did you take a 397 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: picture of yourself holding it and send it to everybody 398 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: you knew you wasn't. 399 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 2: Attached to you? He had, I'll see, he's the nastiest 400 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 2: looking thing of everything. All skin was popped off of him. 401 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: That's a good story, is eight, Nutty Jerry's and Winnie. 402 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: That'll be uh let's see. Opening act is Trapper Joe 403 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: and Trigger Tommy. 404 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 2: You know this guy? 405 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: No, but that sounds like a good show right there. 406 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. I love the names if they 407 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 2: cook good his. 408 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 1: Names, it says Charlie Daniels Band will be performing Charlie 409 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 1: Daniels Band hits and Christmas song. 410 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 2: Will be Christmas song. 411 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: What's your favorite? 412 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 2: My favorite secular Christmas song would beat the Christmas song 413 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 2: that King cole version and I do that one and 414 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm silent night, come on you faithful 415 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,479 Speaker 2: pan of money, midnight clear. I can't separate those, Michael, 416 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 2: That's just my I mean, that's that's part of my life. 417 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: Charlie, I have way over stayed in my boundaries. Do 418 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: you can you hang for one more? 419 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 2: I can? 420 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: Are you in for it? 421 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 2: All right? 422 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: I got a couple of questions for you that you've 423 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: never been asked before, and some that you have. Charlie 424 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: Daniels band coming up. Actually it's just Charlie Daniels, but 425 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: you don't mind it. 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