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Speaker 1: Hey, what's happening to everybody? This is Big Still the

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Speaker 1: executive producer with a Gainst the Chronicles Podcasts and the

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Speaker 1: CEO of Digital Soapbox Media. I would like to welcome

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Speaker 1: everyone to another episode of Against the Chronicles Podcasts. But

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Speaker 1: before we get started, I wanted to address a few things.

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Speaker 1: As you all may know, Alex Alonso was no longer

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Speaker 1: a part of the Gainst the Chronicles podcasts. Now the

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Speaker 1: reasons aren't important, but we sincerely wish him the best

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Speaker 1: in his future endeavors. Now, as you know, the show

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Speaker 1: must go on. I have some exciting news. Cavarrio Hunter,

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Speaker 1: the former editor of Don Diva magazine, will be coming

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Speaker 1: on as a host of Against the Chronicles. Cavario brings

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Speaker 1: a level of professionalism and resources that would take Against

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Speaker 1: the Chronicles brand to another level. Now, the show's format

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Speaker 1: will always be for the streets. With that being said,

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Speaker 1: we will be expanding our coverage not only include the

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Speaker 1: streets of Los Angeles, but hoods nationwide. So the crew

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Speaker 1: will be on the road bringing you conversations from some

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Speaker 1: of the most legendary people in the game, from the

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Speaker 1: Niggason Gardens to Staton Island's part kill projects and in

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Speaker 1: the corner that we won't being This week we have

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Speaker 1: interviews coming with San Diego Rapper Jail Felony. Then we're

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Speaker 1: hitting y'all with an interview with the Wu Tang claims

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Speaker 1: Lot Record CEO J Prince Wrapper scar facing much much

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Speaker 1: more now. I appreciate those at the State in the

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Speaker 1: car rocking with us for the last year. Now my

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Speaker 1: man Reggie Wright Jr. He will be back on deck

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Speaker 1: at the end of August. He coming home. They're letting

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Speaker 1: him outain and he gonna bring y'all with only he

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Speaker 1: can bring to the show. Big ups to my brother

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Speaker 1: James McDonald for holding it down staying loyal. When I

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Speaker 1: thought of this show three years ago, I never imagined

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Speaker 1: it would have had an impact of the deer to

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Speaker 1: open the doors for us. So I appreciate y'all the

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Speaker 1: fans from the bottom of my heart. Like I always say,

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Speaker 1: us because we're going for a long ride. I'm giving

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Speaker 1: a special special thanks to my man Charlotte Magne, a

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Speaker 1: guy for believing in us. It's a lot of stuff

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Speaker 1: open now. On this episode, me and James sat down

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Speaker 1: with Detroit ms against Al Prophet to talk about this

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Speaker 1: American Dope Boys series and the economics of cocaine. This

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Speaker 1: episode is appropriately called de Boy Economics. It's the Gangster

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Speaker 1: Chronicle show. Really well, yeah, I know you had the

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Speaker 1: street right, Yes, I want to tell us about that

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Speaker 1: us now not even medicine, but uh weed, which is

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Speaker 1: uh you know you can use it without a card.

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Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not an investigative journalist. I'm not trying

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Speaker 1: or like a town house was another guy with his son.

428
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,439
Speaker 1: And one day I watched this guy and his buddy

429
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,840
Speaker 1: first going over like across the street was Geneva g

430
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,240
Speaker 1: Street like a nickel Rock street, going over there, going over,

431
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 1: then the TV comes out. Then something else comes out

432
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,720
Speaker 1: by like dusk. They had one of those little dollies

433
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,680
Speaker 1: and they're putting a whole sectional. Emptied this old house

434
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:10,880
Speaker 1: out in like eight hours. Oh man, Yeah, I've seen

435
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,440
Speaker 1: crazy stuff. I've seen those dudes in the hood man

436
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 1: that got the good jobs, like with the city man,

437
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:18,960
Speaker 1: you know, like them dudes that you kind of looked

438
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 1: up to, you know, the dude got the nice do

439
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 1: some quarterman, he got some rims on it. Man, you know,

440
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 1: just got this stuff together, got the cute girl. Man.

441
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 1: Next thing, you know, man, you see them dudes that

442
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,440
Speaker 1: the jury might be going at first, right, they still

443
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 1: look normal a little bit. Then the walk's gone. The

444
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 1: next thing, you know, instead of riding up the block,

445
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 1: they're walking and and then you see the little homies

446
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,120
Speaker 1: driving his car corn dropping his car around the way,

447
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Then you see him as hobos.

448
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 1: We've been through it all, man. We used to rent

449
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,880
Speaker 1: the cars and and do drive bys out the motherfucker

450
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,680
Speaker 1: let me rent your car for rock and why he

451
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:56,920
Speaker 1: shouldn't there getting high way and ship shooting at people. Uh,

452
00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 1: you know, the females used to come to the spot

453
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,400
Speaker 1: thirty nine because they knew motherfucker's over there doing their thing,

454
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 1: and they knew it was favorite time. So motherfucker's in there. Yeah,

455
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,880
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I don't want to say trick

456
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 1: for ass and ship, but you know you had guys

457
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 1: that that that funk with that. You know, you had

458
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 1: guys that was kicking it with you. And the mama

459
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 1: come in. You know that's the homely mama, but she

460
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,399
Speaker 1: owned drugs and take you in the back room. So

461
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,959
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, is the ship really when it hit,

462
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 1: it hit, and it funked up a lot of families,

463
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,160
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And when you see how

464
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 1: all the shops and warehouses closed down to Detroit, that's

465
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 1: the only thing that happened. The people that worked there,

466
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,399
Speaker 1: they couldn't catch up because they was getting credit. And

467
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,920
Speaker 1: you know what happens with credit. If if I owe you,

468
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:51,679
Speaker 1: if I got two on it, that with the credit,

469
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,879
Speaker 1: by the time I get paid three fifty, now I

470
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 1: give you three hundred fifty my motherfucking check. I can't

471
00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 1: catch up with paying my bills and doing this and

472
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 1: doing that. So you can't go back to work because

473
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 1: you didn't lost your motherfucking job. Because you're looking a

474
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 1: wreck because when when the late eighties, that's when cocaine

475
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:16,119
Speaker 1: started reconstruction, your face and ship looking totally different. You

476
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:20,719
Speaker 1: couldn't take it no more, and it just sucked everything up.

477
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Uh, my step pops, it

478
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 1: was cocaine and Sharan. You know, we were going to

479
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:33,479
Speaker 1: the motorcycle runs and the whole goddamn uh fucking beach

480
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 1: up and back was number motherfucker's sharing is everybody smoking them,

481
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 1: loan more cigarettes, dipping them. So you know, it fucked

482
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 1: everybody up it It fucked everybody else, people that were

483
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,919
Speaker 1: already on the lower rung because they didn't have They

484
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 1: couldn't smoke up a paycheck and have money in the

485
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 1: back like that was there rent for them up now

486
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,880
Speaker 1: there on the street. By they they had no buffer

487
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 1: in the best of times, and one bad weekend might

488
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 1: wreck their life. And so my next documentary, I'm drapping

489
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 1: an American dope series called Cocaine Condor, and it's about

490
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 1: the political events behind the glut of cocaine. And I say,

491
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 1: right at the beginning, it wasn't really a crack epidemic.

492
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:25,879
Speaker 1: There was a cheap cocaine epidemic, and that allowed, you know,

493
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: three dollar dose and junits of cocaine to come into existence.

494
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 1: So kilo, I mean even in Miami is fifty thousand

495
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 1: dollars by nine eighty nine or ninety in Detroit, and

496
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 1: be even cheaper in l A. You know, fourteen thousand

497
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 1: dollars for a pure How did how did that happen?

498
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 1: It wasn't that, you know, and well ship everybody can

499
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 1: get it now. So Magnatia was harder to get it

500
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,360
Speaker 1: because it wasn't coming in the country because the US

501
00:25:54,440 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 1: government had not facilitated it. Now it's easier and and more.

502
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,360
Speaker 1: You got the less money you make off the ship

503
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,880
Speaker 1: because well you make more money because you've got people

504
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 1: stepping on the ship three times, you know what I'm saying.

505
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,479
Speaker 1: So I don't even see why the motherfucker's even smoked

506
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: that ship today because it's not what it used to be,

507
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. They're adding and putting all

508
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 1: this different ship in it. But your your body is

509
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 1: so used to that. Let's say that that flavor you

510
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,360
Speaker 1: you you want it and and that's why you can't

511
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 1: get people off of it today. You got motherfucker's going

512
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 1: to the rehab a year and coming home. Sobriety might

513
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:39,439
Speaker 1: last two weeks, but it ain't no good if you

514
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 1: go right back to where you start doing it. Ship,

515
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 1: you're working with your friends, working with your your best friend,

516
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 1: and you're back on the bus. If you don't have

517
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 1: a replacement activity. You know that, I don't mind as

518
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 1: a devil's workshop. You're you know a lot of people

519
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 1: don't if if you've been doing something every day for

520
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 1: ten twenty years, I take that away from you. WHOA,

521
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 1: you gotta replace it with something. But if there's nothing,

522
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,360
Speaker 1: there's no jobs. Like we said, you're in the community

523
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: where everyone's doing the same thing, there's nothing to replace

524
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: it with. Yeah, And that's the thing, you know, I

525
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: truly believe, man, that a lot of these communities haven't

526
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 1: recovered from that. Man, they're not even I mean some

527
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 1: of those places you can't even really call them communities

528
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: anywhere exactly. Well, you know, I could show you some

529
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,919
Speaker 1: places man, back in Cleveland. Man, they used to be

530
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 1: thriving communities. I'm talking about grocery store. Everybody on the

531
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 1: street got the jobs. Now you go over there, it's

532
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 1: like you may have a vacant line. The house over here,

533
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: empty this house. This might be the family still trying

534
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 1: to live in there. You got one at the end

535
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 1: of the street that people being kicked out of there.

536
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: But they're still squatting over there, you know what I mean.

537
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 1: They've been squatting for two or three years. And don't

538
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 1: nobody give a damn about any you know what I'm saying.

539
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,120
Speaker 1: So the thing is, they got houses over there, man,

540
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: you go buy the house. My my paps are telling me, man,

541
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 1: we need to buy some of these houses. They five

542
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: thousand dollars, and I said, yeah, it's gonna take fifty

543
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 1: dollars before to fix the moment. You're gonna steer every

544
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 1: time you put something. I know a lot of people

545
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: try to any trade. You put a water heater in there, cabinets,

546
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 1: stay still it it's gone. Man, It's like you know,

547
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: it's taken and they haven't recovered from that. Man. And

548
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 1: you mentioned the point earlier about the dope being easy

549
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,919
Speaker 1: to get over here, right, because you remember when they

550
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: used to had a real yellow with creamish looking dope.

551
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 1: It was so bad. It was just like, you know,

552
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: it was horrible. It was like real brown, like like

553
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: brown like you know, purely for cooking. Yeah, it was

554
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 1: just like it was the worst dope ever, you know

555
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: what I mean. It changed when the Callie kurt when

556
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: the MDMDI and Kurtel kind of started to get weak

557
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: and the Callie Kurtel came in at the cracks hate.

558
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: They the formulation and the US government stopped ether being

559
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 1: easy to obtain, so they weren't processing it the same.

560
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: So a lot of people who were cooking a lot

561
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: of cocaine back then. Told me that there was this

562
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: whole new grade of cocaine that came in there. You

563
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 1: couldn't really even snort if you wanted to. It was

564
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: only for cooking in the crack. So they were making

565
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,479
Speaker 1: it like that in Colombia. Yeah, well, you know, you're

566
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,719
Speaker 1: mixing the point earlier man about the government making stuff easier. Um,

567
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 1: and then we got coin tell pro so, I truly believe, man,

568
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 1: that a lot of this stuff has been staged, man,

569
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: really has been aimed at, you know, and I don't

570
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: even have to say just the black community, but just

571
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: people that are undesirable, you know what I mean, because

572
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: because it's you know, I know, I grew up in Cleveland,

573
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: and even on the East Side where it was a

574
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: majority black, we still had a nice influx of white people.

575
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: But they was the same boat as us. They you know,

576
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: fathers worked with our fathers when they work, and you

577
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: know when when they work and they hung out with them,

578
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: they drunk beers together, man, And it was just like,

579
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: you know, it was just a real crazy time how

580
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: that came through. It It's almost like a tornado hit

581
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: in the town, right, But it's this five years tornado

582
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 1: six years seven tornado. By the time everything is done,

583
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: everything is just to our park, you know what I mean,

584
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: every things tore down. So now you have the city

585
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: that people they can't afford to go nowhere else, right,

586
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 1: but they're there and it's the worst condition than it

587
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: was before. Man that you encountered the same thing. Oh absolutely. Um.

588
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: And to talk about the economics of cocaine and you

589
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 1: know how to think nine, the cocaine business was estimated

590
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: as like two percent of the entire US economy, so

591
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: like so then in the areas it's being sold at,

592
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: I mean it was a thirty five percent. I mean

593
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 1: seven you pull up at a liquor store and a detroitter.

594
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: I remember visiting New York and walking through Manhattan. I

595
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 1: mean just people were running to the not even that

596
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 1: you're known. I mean I was like twelve years old.

597
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 1: They're not even a known drug you They just so

598
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: many people, as I were, drugs are just running everywhere.

599
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 1: They're smoking crack outside or smoking crack in the liquor store,

600
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,479
Speaker 1: and everybody was selling it. That's why said any win

601
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,719
Speaker 1: you could still doll overlooking at the difference between uh

602
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: uh broke crackhead. Somebody put money together to go get

603
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: that rock. And the difference between somebody that got a

604
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: whole bunch of money and can afford it and buy

605
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,479
Speaker 1: a gang of it at one time and stored at

606
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: their house and and when they get off of work

607
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: they can make five six lines and do it and

608
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: be good recreational users. I call them. It's a whole

609
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: bunch of it's a whole bunch of people way higher

610
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: than us that that they need that to get by

611
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: people in this neighborhood that we can afford it. But

612
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: but see is that and that's the difference being able

613
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: to afford it. You never know. I'm on it. You

614
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 1: never known because they're not losing the money. They can't

615
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: they can't go broke behind the ship. Only when they

616
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 1: get reckless and had them wave parties and spend forty

617
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: dollars twice a month to had these parties, and they

618
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 1: start to look the part as a user. But they

619
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: got people to to get them and get them back

620
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: and snap them back. Unlike being in the city. You know,

621
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: you're already at best, it's already abtenuous exist. So people

622
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: people overlook the people with money because they got money.

623
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: They don't have to show like that. But if you

624
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: know a smoker, you're sitting in them every day. I

625
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: see them when they dry their cars. It's a whole

626
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 1: lot of them in this city. You see these motherfucker's

627
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: with these nice cars, but then got them crack. Don't

628
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: discriminate and you could tell a user so so. But

629
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: it's it's a cool thing. And it's all about the money.

630
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: And if you've got money, you can disguise it for

631
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: for for a longer period of time than that. My mama,

632
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: my uncle and my cousin can just being in the hood,

633
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Because being in the hood

634
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: you got motherfucker's that use drugs and and they forget

635
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: about everything hygiene and all that ship because they want

636
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: to be right there. I don't want to miss to beat.

637
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: They need to invest so much time into getting the

638
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: little bit of money they need. They like you said,

639
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: they don't have extra resources. It's not a snap of finger.

640
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: They gotta go out. If they need forty dollars, they

641
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: gotta go get forty dollars. However they can get in yeah, exactly. Now,

642
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: what role do you think the government played in all this? Man.

643
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: So it's very well documented and I kind of put

644
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: the pieces together in Cocaine Condor. So in the late seventies,

645
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: as communists governments were taking power in Central America and

646
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: then eighty Reagan comes into office and he wants to

647
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: fund anti communists, which really just meant the pro business

648
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: people in those countries, and Congress in two with the

649
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: Bowling Act says we're not letting you give any money

650
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: to the Contras and other groups. So some of these

651
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: UH Nicaraguan and UH el Salvadoran right wing groups. Basically

652
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: a deal is made and it's not the government is

653
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: to see how a which is a black box. They

654
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: don't have to tell Congress what they're doing. Kirk, give up.

655
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 1: Get it. If you're a drug organization in Central and

656
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: South America and you kicked fight ten to three million

657
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: to the Contras, or you are a country yourself and

658
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 1: you're selling like with the guy or selling the Rick

659
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: Ross here in l A. You get to get out

660
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: of jail free card, or don't go to jail in

661
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 1: the first place. And so say we're all committing a crime, right,

662
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: we're watching ourselves and we're doing it here and there,

663
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, Oh no, James, I

664
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 1: got plugged at the d like we can't go to jail.

665
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: You open the floodgates. And and we got it in abundance,

666
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,399
Speaker 1: and we're getting it for so much and so cheap.

667
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: All the guys you know, you're like, here, just take

668
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: this on credit. I don't care. We'll make it so

669
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: much money to huh. And and then now guys are

670
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 1: standing at the corner store who used to sell joints.

671
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 1: So the people in the neighborhood on Friday, they go

672
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:51,919
Speaker 1: get to the little liquor and fight out a bag

673
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: of weed. When house fight out of river cocaine, but

674
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 1: fight out a bag of weed might last year the weekend.

675
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 1: Five hours of cocaine last you five minutes, and then

676
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 1: you're back. And when you only made five dollars an

677
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: hour in minim and wage, well that doesn't add up.

678
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: It's real bad, real fast. Oh yeah, real horrible, as

679
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 1: as saying smoked so so smoked up their paycheck, like

680
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: you know, exactly Saturday morning, you have no money, no money,

681
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: you know, and as many of our neighborhoods turned out

682
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: to be that way. Man, what do you think the

683
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: impact deals on them today, like in this present time

684
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: where we had two thousand twenty. Well, these general, these

685
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 1: young guys now like there it's not that they're difficult

686
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,320
Speaker 1: to deal with because they're tough for something. They're just

687
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 1: I don't know there, I guess they're you can tell

688
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 1: there're a lot of them raised by female crackheads. Maybe

689
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,479
Speaker 1: they're not crackheads now, but like when they were little kids,

690
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: because they're everything is a kind of a lie or

691
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: you know, a scam, or there's no order. They don't

692
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 1: think there's any repercussions. It's like like you were raised

693
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 1: in a crackhouse, because they were, because anywhere where there's

694
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 1: a crackhead is a crackhouse really because someone could come

695
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: sit in there and you know, and I think that's

696
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 1: why you know, they have no it's not to have

697
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: no job skills. They don't even have the psychological mind

698
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: frame to sit somewhere and be told what to do,

699
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 1: because no one ever told him what to do ever,

700
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: not even their mother, because she was a crackhead during

701
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 1: her his formative years. Well, you know, and that's the

702
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 1: thing right now, man, Uh, And I don't want to

703
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: just get them because you do got some young cats

704
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 1: is out there handling their business, you know. But but

705
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 1: for the moment. Yeah, But in general though, Man, you

706
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 1: got a bunch of kids. Man, the biggest thing I

707
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: noticed with these kids is that they don't have no

708
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 1: drive to them. Man, It's like everything is about the

709
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: hook up, the plug. Don't nobody want to work? You know? Yeah,

710
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,399
Speaker 1: you got to hook up and got the airbnb hook up? Yeah,

711
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 1: the Airbnb, yeah, you know. And that's the thing. That's

712
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: the thing. Everybody wants to hook up. But don't nobody

713
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 1: want to put it in a good hard day's work.

714
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: They never saw anybody. How would you know to put

715
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 1: in a hard day's work if you literally that's heard

716
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: the kind of eve. But now like both of you

717
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 1: saying jobs went away, what are people doing? Well, imagine

718
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: that people. There are little kids growing up. No one's

719
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 1: going to work. They never saw anyone go to work

720
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: and then go to school. So and the only people

721
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 1: they saw to have something head do work, which those

722
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 1: guys come and go. So where would they have a

723
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 1: conception in their mind if you know, every day when

724
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: I wake up, I need to do something productive, not

725
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: not fire up a blunt. But they've been they're being

726
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: taught to live a certain kind of way, not the

727
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: right way. They're being taught by by older people. That's

728
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: and they and they surrounded older people. If I'm in

729
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: the rut, and this was happening right now to day, everywhere,

730
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: you got a lot of older cast my age, I

731
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: don't think they can get nowhere, or don't don't believe

732
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: they're going anywhere. So instead of showing this young man

733
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 1: or that young man or these casts over here that

734
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: you can make it just be because I didn't know,

735
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 1: they're teaching you how to sell drugs. They're teaching you

736
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: how to survive on the streets, opposed to getting you

737
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: where you should be. And then these little cats out

738
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: here growing up today, they don't have no respect for

739
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: for the next person. You know what I'm saying. Uh,

740
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: just this weekend a friend of mine, and that's why

741
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk to he. You know, he doing good.

742
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: He just seen one of his homeboys and he's his

743
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: shop doing bad. So he takes off his jewelry and

744
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: ship and give it to him and tell him get

745
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: yourself out of debt, Rolex rings all this ship. Next

746
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: day he gets killed. He gets shot in the back

747
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 1: the one who received the stuff, the one who gave

748
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 1: and uh, I just recently bought a car from him,

749
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And and they wanted more

750
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: than what I gave him. So like, man, I got

751
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: this right here. I brought this, my nephew said, DUDEH

752
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: said who whoo whoo, So this is what I brought.

753
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: He took it and the brother Getts shot in the

754
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: back four times. We the people don't know Black people.

755
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 1: Young people. Kids don't know how to get out there

756
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: and get their own ship if you see it. And

757
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,399
Speaker 1: we used to have mother fuckers in the neighborhood that's

758
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: seen the motherfucker on datings and like, I'm gonna check

759
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: that motherfucker for him. No, get out there and get

760
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 1: your own motherfucking datings. They're not living like that today.

761
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: They want to take what they see. They don't want

762
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: to work for what they what they want, you know

763
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,439
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So you were going up, you saw

764
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: some people living like that and some people working. So

765
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: there was a choice. But the kid was a team

766
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,720
Speaker 1: now and something not every but it's the really bad neighbors.

767
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: There wasn't anyone to go some blocks in Detroit at

768
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: ten am on Tuesdays or eight am on Tuesdays. Not

769
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: people walking out getting in the car to go to work.

770
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 1: It looks just like Saturday night, hanging out, being being

771
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,919
Speaker 1: being gangsters and hanging out trying to make a living,

772
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: trying to make some money. Upon used to having a

773
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: mentality saying, okay, man, this drug ship, let me let

774
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: me get a job, let me go somewhere to try

775
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 1: to find a job. They're not doing that, especially here.

776
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: These little these little young dudes out here don't want

777
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: no job. I was amazing. I've never seen so many

778
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 1: adults here in a city in l A that don't

779
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: have their own place and don't even talk about like

780
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: these guys don't even talk about or I need to

781
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: get some money to get a place. They just have

782
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: come to accept that they'll always be on someone's culture

783
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: or something. And then that's what I just said earlier.

784
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: They don't think they can get up out of here.

785
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 1: They don't think they can be a better person, you

786
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And then they offer you gr

787
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 1: general leaf out here and they give you two hundred

788
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: and seventy one a month. Is a program where you

789
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: don't have to do ship. But but go look for

790
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: a job, get these paper signs, and you went looking

791
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: for jobs. Yeah, which motherfucker's do it yourselves. And then

792
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: you take it back to the county and they give

793
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: you would check every month. That's enable on me because

794
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: this two seventy one dollars is good for me. You're

795
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 1: funk off this month. I wait your next month. I

796
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: try it again. You don't have it. It's not enough

797
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: money to survive and do what you wanna do. But

798
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: motherfucker's have have accepted the fact that this is this

799
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 1: is enough. I can I can do this. They give

800
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: you a hotel vouchers, so they fuck you up. Really,

801
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: they give you a bouchers where you can go stay

802
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: in the hotel room for for weeks at a time

803
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 1: exactly so they they're not helping you. They really hurt

804
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: you more than they're helping you. You know what I'm saying,

805
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 1: Because I don't nobody want to do it. Not using

806
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: that as a springboard. They're using that as just oh,

807
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 1: this is what it is. Don't give away free ship.

808
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: And then you can see the difference when the motherucker

809
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 1: feel like, damn, I can't get this money from from

810
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: from my bench, prostituting if I can't money off of

811
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 1: my weed, which they stopping that ship because everybody rather

812
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: to go to the to the goddamn building and get

813
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: their weed now opposed to hitting the block and get it.

814
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: So it's pretty much taking you out the business. They

815
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: crack cocaine. Don't look like it used to look back

816
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 1: in the days. And you see the neighborhoods full. Especially,

817
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 1: you can tell a full neighborhood because you got cars

818
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,879
Speaker 1: up and down the whole block back then, you did.

819
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 1: Mother was selling their cards everything, if if, if not,

820
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: there was a piece of ship. But you got a

821
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: lot of people out there just don't give a fuck

822
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: and don't want to work hard, don't want to get

823
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: it the right way. And that's the problem, you know

824
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Whether mother or father, if you got

825
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: them both, you're sneaking out doing this because you want

826
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: to hang with the home boys. Out of home girls.

827
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: You know, these little kids when they get a piece

828
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 1: of pussy or they get their first piece of dick,

829
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,879
Speaker 1: I'm running away. You don't want me to be with him,

830
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 1: I'm gone. They don't want to nothing. Yeah, and it's

831
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: the big thing and The sad part about it is

832
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: you're seeing generations upunk generations. Like I swear when I

833
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 1: was back in Ohio, we had a family lived like

834
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 1: five hours down. They was, you know, on welfare. Was

835
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: you know, two sisters living together, everybody in the house,

836
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 1: you know, packed up in the house, everybody on welfare.

837
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: They get there, you see him on the first of

838
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: the month coming with just the big things that juice

839
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: and just you know, like twenty bags of groceries, you

840
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And they're eating good barbecuing for

841
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,760
Speaker 1: two weeks and at the end day they borrowing stuff.

842
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: Do you have a cup of sugar? Can they borrow

843
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 1: some food? You know what I'm saying. They asked, can

844
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: you like, how do you borrow beans? How do you

845
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: borrow baloney? You know what I mean? And my mom

846
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: and my mom tell them like you know, like you know,

847
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: you know, the first few times it was cool, but

848
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: then Mom's like, I gotta feed my own kids. You know,

849
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: you need to go get a job. And then you know,

850
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: my mom got one of the girls a job down

851
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: to the clinic. The girl lasted all the two weeks,

852
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: you know, didn't want to go over They practice over

853
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: there there. You know, that's the first thing practice over

854
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 1: there because you don't want to do your job. So

855
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: now check this out. The same girls I came up

856
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 1: with there was my age, not the house. They're in

857
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: the same house. Some of them to move next door

858
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: to each other. Because you're knowing Cleveland, they got these duplexes.

859
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: But they you know how he was back in the Midwest.

860
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: You got the house in the bottom of the one

861
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,879
Speaker 1: up stairs. You know, four families they got they live

862
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 1: over here. They live over here. It's like they don't

863
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 1: took the whole block, all of them my welfare. Last

864
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: time I was back to heard when the older ones

865
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: till a younger one girl. You know, if you go

866
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: here to get pregnant, I let that one pretty nigga

867
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 1: put the baby up beside of me because you can

868
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 1: get a couple hundred dollars more dollars a month. And

869
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: it's just like and and to to go out to

870
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: eat in l A. They're gonna bring a human being

871
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:52,959
Speaker 1: into the world for the check. Go ahead. I'm sorry,

872
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: but one second I got this on my mind. The

873
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,919
Speaker 1: cold part about this situation is there are no men

874
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: in the house because why I think, yeah, you don't

875
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 1: get the famous. That's what Section eight is for. And

876
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you why that that that's what foxes

877
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: up because these chiefs is getting section they're getting these houses,

878
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 1: they're moving nigger in the nigga can lay up and

879
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 1: do what the funk you wanna do. Don't have to

880
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 1: get up and go to work. He's being taken care of.

881
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: As soon as she get mad and said you need

882
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 1: to do this, I'm gonna get up and bounce. But

883
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, just like when the

884
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 1: food stamps the paper snaps came, motherfucker didn't have to

885
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 1: do nothing. He would take the food STAPs, trade to

886
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: trade the man for money and to do his thing.

887
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:40,439
Speaker 1: But when she put his ass out, he don't have nothing,

888
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: and he's not thinking about it. He don't have a

889
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 1: hustle nothing, So that puts him in the street. Now

890
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: you get the homie house, or you try to find

891
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: the next bacum that you can lay up on and

892
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 1: play that PlayStation game. You know what I'm saying. So

893
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 1: it's just being put in a trick bag man, knowing

894
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,919
Speaker 1: that regardless of what you got to do, what then

895
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,879
Speaker 1: you gotta do to survive, Get you a goddamn job,

896
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 1: take care of your kids. It's cats out there with

897
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 1: kids and ain't got a job at the end of

898
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: the day. If you die today, you can't take care

899
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 1: now one of them kids burden, so you come and

900
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 1: walk the earth is a burden and leave one is

901
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: a bigger one. So I was I was one that

902
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: that blamed the system and blamed other people. But if

903
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,399
Speaker 1: if motherfucker's get off their motherfucking' asks like I did

904
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 1: and say funk that I don't have to live like this.

905
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 1: I ain't gotta be like this and this I don't

906
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,359
Speaker 1: want to do this ship no more. It ain't going down,

907
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: no more purchasing and listen to what the fun is

908
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: going on. Grow up and be a motherfucking man. You

909
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: will be successful. You ain't gonna get rich, but you'll

910
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: be Yeah, everybody's not gonna get rich. That's just not

911
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 1: how this life world works. And and the issues of

912
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: you know, economic injustice, racing, those are all real. But Unford,

913
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 1: whatever the world is you're born into, of whoever you

914
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: you gotta deal with the problems. It doesn't make that

915
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: stuff not real. But being mad about it, try to

916
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: solve it and change it. And then you still gotta

917
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 1: You're like you said, you still gotta just get up

918
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: and do something. It's not being mad about it. It

919
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: is more anger, just being angry about the situation. Even

920
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 1: though I'm living like this. You don't have to put

921
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: your foot in my neck, you know what I'm saying.

922
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: Even though I'm a broke, motherfucking I ain't got that

923
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 1: bill money. You don't have to charge me with this,

924
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: knowing I can't build out of jail. Don't, don't pump

925
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: ship up, and don't. I mean, every day is a struggle. Yeah,

926
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: the driver's license thing and the traffic tickets because yeah,

927
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: where you the driver's responsibility fee, so you get pulled over,

928
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 1: you couldn't afford curR insurance, so like in Michigan, that's

929
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 1: like a couple of dollar ticket, but you've got this

930
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: driver's responsibility fee for driving no insurance fifteen hundred. So

931
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: you're taking someone who already couldn't afford a three hundred

932
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: out of bill. Now they got an eighteen under dollar,

933
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:03,479
Speaker 1: but they're never gonna have a license and they're gonna

934
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: be in and out of jail for traffic texts. Give

935
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 1: people six months for driving us to spend a license

936
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 1: and that's that's that's ridiculous. They won't say money though,

937
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: it's ridiculous. And then if they that's just so. If

938
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: you ever get a settlement or you happen to get

939
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: some type of job, yeah, it's real, get ahead, it's

940
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 1: real found out, man. And that's the biggest thing. Man.

941
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 1: I'm just like, especially with all the stuff going on

942
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: in the world now, man, I really just hope that

943
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,800
Speaker 1: we can get it together. Yeah, hopefully there's been a

944
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 1: little reset button, and I hope everyone, though I doubt it,

945
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: has been using their time to think about their own

946
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: lives and behavior about the world and how they relate

947
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: with others. And uh, we'll see if some some of

948
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 1: us and some people will change. Probably like all through history,

949
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 1: most people won't. But economy is going to be different

950
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: in the coming years ahead. A lot of these jobs

951
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 1: and businesses that clothes are not going to reopen. My

952
00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 1: formal educations and economics, so like I think of out

953
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 1: and like I'll read the Bureau of Labor Statistics report

954
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 1: or stuff, and like like the restaurant the waiter job

955
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: that was like the last like white people without a

956
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 1: college degree could go be a waiter somewhere, because you know,

957
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 1: in l A, if you're not white, you're not gonna

958
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: be a waiter anywhere. But those jobs ain't gonna be there.

959
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 1: So the nine white people have been dealing with not

960
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: being able to fully be an economy for a while.

961
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:24,879
Speaker 1: But now you're gonna see a lot of white people

962
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 1: can't get a job. And what's gonna happen then? Yeah, yeah,

963
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 1: you know what I mean for real? You know it's

964
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 1: gonna be crazy right now, man, because I'm looking at

965
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 1: people can't even handle the little structure. Somebody tell them

966
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:38,919
Speaker 1: to wear a mask in the store. I'm seeing people

967
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 1: lose their minds in the grocery store. Why do I

968
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 1: back up being at work anymore? Like I'll be in

969
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: I stopped going to the expensive restaurants in l A

970
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 1: because like the waiters, they want to act like they're

971
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: not the waiter. What's up? It's like, I'll grab you

972
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 1: some food while I'm walking by the kitchen, like no, no, no, no, no,

973
00:49:57,920 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: tell me your name is Bobby or not. You'll be

974
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: my water tonight? Yeah, yeah, yeah exactly, man, you know,

975
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: And this is just it's it's wild times now, man,

976
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: I'm looking at like, um, I really think we got

977
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: a problem in the United States period? Man? Is that

978
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: when somebody tell us, what the dude, that's the best

979
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: for us? Oh, you're impeting on my rights. It's like, man,

980
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: motherfuck are they're telling everybody to wear a mask so

981
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 1: this ship can go away? To wear a mask when

982
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 1: you go outside, just participate, you know what I mean.

983
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody asking you to wear a mask in your

984
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 1: cous Ain't nobody asked you to wear a mask in

985
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: your car. But when you go to the grocery store

986
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: and put your mask on, going and get what you

987
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 1: gotta get, getting your car and take the ship off,

988
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:42,320
Speaker 1: just singesting how you don't want to wear mask and

989
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: you're walking with three kids, how you want to go?

990
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:47,359
Speaker 1: And just to make say, if you two are newly

991
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: uncomfortable by me not having one on, even if I

992
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: thought it was stupid, just because you're too other human beings,

993
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 1: I'll just do what to not bother you, right right, Yeah,

994
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 1: But I'm seeing people lose They the people losing their

995
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: damn mind me. I refused to wear a mask of Walmart.

996
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,320
Speaker 1: I'm a hero. Well, hell, Donald Trump, don't want to

997
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: win Man. So if he ain't got to there's a

998
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: spike in cases in Tulsa, where he had his first

999
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: campaign rally on June. Coincidentally, why he had his kickoff

1000
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:17,320
Speaker 1: campaign on June teenth and no one wore masks and

1001
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 1: there's a spike in cases there. Oh yeah, big time

1002
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 1: spike man. So we opened the presidents bringing coronavirus around. Yeah,

1003
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: we hope every about there standing safe from that stud

1004
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:28,439
Speaker 1: because it is very real. So man, tell us, man,

1005
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 1: what do you have going on? What do you have

1006
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 1: coming up? Man? We can go to American Dope dot com.

1007
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:35,320
Speaker 1: I have a lot of merch but my YouTube channels

1008
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 1: YouTube dot com, slash how profit and putting up stories

1009
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 1: a couple of times a week. The next episode of

1010
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 1: American Dope Cocaine Condor be out. But something that was

1011
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 1: that was real exciting that I was about to implement

1012
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,879
Speaker 1: when they're struck and now we can't travel. About two

1013
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:52,280
Speaker 1: years ago I did a pop up museum in downtown

1014
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 1: l A where I created like a little museum um

1015
00:51:56,560 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 1: using artifacts of photos and exhibits from my documentaries. Interactive,

1016
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 1: really cool experience and once travel kind of opens back up,

1017
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 1: probably I'm gonna do like a tour around the country.

1018
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: I'm very excited for that. And we're doing some podcast

1019
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 1: stuff with you guys. Yeah, our profit will be having

1020
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 1: a podcast on Digital Soapboxes. You guys sure to make

1021
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: sure to be on the lookout for that the next

1022
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 1: upcoming weeks. All y'all out there in the world. Um,

1023
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 1: we got some in the real interesting stuff. We got

1024
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 1: a real big project what I ain't gonna talk about

1025
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 1: right now with somebody that's very popular that. I mean,

1026
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 1: you're gonna be doing something, man, It's a lot of

1027
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 1: stuff going on. Man. We really thank you man for

1028
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 1: coming on the show man Man for sure, anything you

1029
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,839
Speaker 1: want to leave these beautiful people with YouTube dot com,

1030
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 1: slash our profit a L P R O F I T.

1031
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 1: Thank you, MIV James, Mr Steele, salute Digital Soapbox Network. Yeah,

1032
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:55,439
Speaker 1: make sure you guys man like this video, subscribe, leave

1033
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 1: a comment, you know anything, you say this funk that

1034
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna racing anyway, So go ahead and leave it.

1035
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 1: And my name is James McDonald, not mob James. Okay,

1036
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 1: Mr McDonald, all right and we out of here.