1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Cardinal Territory. I'm Katie Wu. That's Trevor Rosenthal, 2 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: and that is Gordon Grisefo joining the program. It's spring training. 3 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: Pitchers are here, catches are here, full squad is here. 4 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,479 Speaker 1: Games are about to start. So we thought, we know 5 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: we'd bring some players on and Gordon was so kind 6 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: to be our first player interview. How are you, Gordon, 7 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: I'm good. 8 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: It's a pleasure to be on. Thanks for having me. 9 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: Love it, love it. This will be fun. I think 10 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: the best thing about spring training is the overall vibe. Right, 11 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: it's positive. It's a new season. Anything can happen. And 12 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: this is so interesting in twenty twenty five because it 13 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: seems like players like you have a pretty big window 14 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: and how you can impact the team this year. What 15 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 1: was it like for you to come to spring training 16 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: and realize, hey, you know, I've you know, made my 17 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: debut last year on the forty man, I have a 18 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: legitimate chance to crack this roster. 19 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's awesome, I think, I mean the gold coming 20 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 3: in sprint training every year, I feel like for me 21 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 3: has been the same. It is just trying to make 22 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 3: try to do everything you can to make the team, 23 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 3: But yeah, this year, there's definitely a little bit more 24 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 3: of an opening. I feel like it's the same for 25 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 3: a lot of the young guys that have shown up 26 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 3: and that it kind of have been up and down 27 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 3: the past few years. So it's really cool to go 28 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 3: out and kind of compete with those guys every day. 29 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 3: But I mean they're also your friends, so it's just 30 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 3: nice being around them, and it's nice to imagine like 31 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 3: being on the team with them all at the same time. 32 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 2: And I think I think we could be a really 33 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 2: good squad. 34 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 4: What do you have any guys that you are that 35 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,839 Speaker 4: you gravitate towards on the team, any close buddies, And also, 36 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 4: I mean what about mentors. I saw a picture on 37 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 4: your Instagram of you. I think it was maybe in 38 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 4: your first camp in twenty two with Adam Wainwright. I mean, 39 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 4: maybe you could talk a little bit about the guys 40 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 4: that are in the clubhouse and the impact that they've 41 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 4: had on you so far. 42 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think right now, I definitely tend to hang 43 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 3: around Matt LIBERATORI a lot Thompson, Steve Mattz, John King, Polonte. 44 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 3: I mean, just the guys that have kind of been 45 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 3: around this team and up in the big leagues a 46 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 3: decent amount over the past couple of years. I mean, 47 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 3: they they know their way around the clubhouse, they know 48 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 3: how to act. They they're really good guys to watch 49 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 3: and kind of you gotta peek into like that Cardinal 50 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 3: Way type of type of way to act. But yeah, 51 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 3: my first camp, the first day we were I was 52 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 3: putting a group with Jordan Montgomery and Wayno and that 53 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 3: was awesome, Like that was so cool just to be 54 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 3: like up and up and up close to see those 55 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,679 Speaker 3: guys and how they go about their day. But yeah, 56 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 3: it was it was awesome. Wayno Wayno I talked. I 57 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 3: got to talk to him a good bit in camp 58 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 3: in twenty two and he actually ended up buying me 59 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 3: a suit at the end of camp, which is really cool. 60 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 2: That was a really cool opportunity. But uh, yeah, it's been. 61 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 2: It's been. This is my third big league camp now, 62 00:02:59,080 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 2: so it's been. 63 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 3: It's been nice being around those guys and uh, now 64 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 3: you kind of feel a little bit more. 65 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 4: A little bit more used to everything, so you're you're 66 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 4: a little bit more comfortable now in your being your 67 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 4: third camp. Hey, and you got to remember, right, like 68 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 4: the guy he got you the suit. Now when you're 69 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 4: when you're a big time you got to pay it 70 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 4: forward again. You got to keep the tradition going. 71 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 2: Absolutely. I hope, I hope I'm in that position at 72 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 2: some point. That'd be great. 73 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: Like you said, Gordon, it's your third big league camp, 74 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: But did this camp when you walked into the clubhouse 75 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: feel a little different? I mean personally, I walked in 76 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my gosh, I am old 77 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: because there was a ton of younger players and that 78 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: was their mission right to bring in some young guys 79 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: and give some opportunity. But is it it's probably not 80 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: too It's probably pretty familiar because a lot of these 81 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: guys you ascended through the minor leagues with. 82 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 83 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 3: Absolutely, it's it's been cool seeing these guys grow and 84 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 3: and uh and just being able to play with them 85 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 3: in double A, triple A. So it's cool, Like everybody's 86 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 3: really familiar with each other. I mean, there's really good camaraderie. 87 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 3: I think that's one thing that a young clubhouse has, 88 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 3: is really good camaraderie because none of the you don't 89 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 3: really have that like huge personality of anybody not I 90 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 3: mean a lot of the veterans that we've had in 91 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 3: the past have been like those guys to take the 92 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,119 Speaker 3: young guys along, and now it's kind of the young 93 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,679 Speaker 3: guys turn to kind of like figure out and figure 94 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 3: it out their own kind of way and and. 95 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 2: Be able to kind of just be let loose and 96 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 2: be thrown out there under the fire. 97 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 4: You mentioned some of the guys that you're hanging out with, 98 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 4: and there's a common theme, a common theme there there. 99 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 4: There are a lot of starting pitchers, So what's your perspective. 100 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 4: I know you've spent the most of your time in 101 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 4: the minor leagues is a starting pitcher, and now it 102 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 4: looks like you're getting some more opportunities in the bullpen. 103 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 4: I know for me, the first season that I had 104 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 4: an opportunity to break camp with the big league team, 105 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 4: I went, I went into the manager's office. I was 106 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 4: in a similar situation as you, and I said, Hey, 107 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 4: I want to be a starter. I don't I don't 108 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 4: want to be in the bullpen. And they said, well, 109 00:04:57,800 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 4: if you want to start, you're gonna go to Triple A. 110 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 4: But if you want to be in the big leagues, 111 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 4: you can be in the bullpen. And I quickly said 112 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 4: you know I'll be in the big league. How are 113 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 4: you thinking about that? Would you have a preference one 114 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 4: way or the other? 115 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 3: I would say have a preference. I'm definitely more used 116 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 3: to starting, so that's kind of like my groove, I think. 117 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 3: But I mean, whatever gets me there. I just want 118 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 3: to be there. I just want to be able to 119 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 3: impact the team, help the team win, and just have 120 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 3: that experience. And I think if I limit myself to 121 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 3: one role and kind of limits the opportunity, but I 122 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 3: will do I'll do anything. I think I would be 123 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 3: perfect in any role that they that they would need me. 124 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 3: And now I've gotten my feet wet coming out of 125 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 3: the bullpen, so I feel like that role would suit 126 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 3: me too. 127 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: Gordon, we saw a thread on Twitter here, I'll pull 128 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: it up for our YouTube fans. You went to tread 129 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: over the off season and a big thing about your 130 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,799 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four campaign, twenty seven games for Memphis, twenty 131 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 1: six starts, and of course two appearances in the big leagues. 132 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: The thing that we talked about a lot last year 133 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: was consistent below and the belt will fluctuate a lot, 134 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: and it would it would impact routing. Looks like on 135 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: this thread, from Drew Hall at shread. They went through 136 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: your entire off season program and it's really interest I 137 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 1: would encourage everyone to go check it out on Twitter. 138 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: But I was wondering, what was that experience like for 139 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: you and how did it help you? 140 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 2: It was fantastic. 141 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 3: I can't I can't thank Drew Hall and my other 142 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 3: one of my other coaches there, Matt Martilly, enough for 143 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 3: the work that we were able to get done this offseason. 144 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 3: But I loved it. I think they helped me a lot. 145 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 3: I think it definitely at the same like as it 146 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 3: goes going anywhere, Like I really think the people make 147 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 3: the place, and like those two guys there, and they 148 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 3: instilled a great, great way to kind of get through 149 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 3: things and and some some great like great analysis into 150 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 3: what I was doing and why I was. 151 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 2: Kind of making the mistakes I was and how to 152 00:06:58,279 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 2: fix those mistakes. 153 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 3: And the second I got there, kind of everything kind 154 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 3: of just clicks and you kind of take it one 155 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 3: day at a time. You trust the process, and I 156 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 3: mean coming out at the end of it, I couldn't 157 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:08,799 Speaker 3: be happier. 158 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: Did they tell you anything in particular or what did 159 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: they show you early on that really opened your eyes 160 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: and to oh, this is something I need to fix. 161 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 3: Well, I went through a kind of an analysis into 162 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 3: what I was doing at the beginning of last per 163 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 3: training and kind of kept it in the back of 164 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 3: my head and then knew what I wanted to work 165 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 3: on when I showed up there after the season ended, 166 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 3: and just kind of the way they broke it down 167 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 3: and the different stuff they gave me to improve on it, 168 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 3: you could tell that they have like a really good 169 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 3: eye for this stuff and how they it's not just 170 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 3: it's not really like a guessing game of like, oh, 171 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 3: maybe it could be this, maybe it could be this. 172 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 3: It was pretty definitive, like this is what you're messing up, 173 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 3: and this is how we're going to fix it, and 174 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 3: this is how you're going to come out. 175 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 2: On the end of it. 176 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 3: And they're right, And I really think that I'm gonna 177 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 3: be able to hit the ground running this year. 178 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 4: Well, don't give it too much credit, brother, Like you're 179 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 4: you're a beast. Like I've I was doing some homework. 180 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 4: I was doing research on you. You know, you're obviously you've 181 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 4: got the frame six four two twenty uh, and then 182 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 4: you start really breaking down mechanically, man, you move very well. 183 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 4: I'm very impressed with your mechanics. I like the way 184 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 4: you deliver the ball. One thing I noticed is maybe 185 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 4: you've made some adjustments with your tempo and and how 186 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,119 Speaker 4: quickly or how patient you are moving down the mound. 187 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 4: But I mean the ball just jumps, and you have 188 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 4: a very nice three pitch mix, obviously building the foundation 189 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 4: off of off your fastball. But I love the profile 190 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 4: of of your of your arsenal. You know, Katie mentioned velocity, 191 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 4: how much how important you know? Velocity has gained more 192 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 4: and more attention over the years, and obviously facilities like 193 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 4: tread come into you know, these velocity training programs. What 194 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 4: do you think about velocity? How how important is it 195 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 4: to you? Or how do you view your strength as 196 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 4: a pitcher. 197 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 3: You know, first of all, thank you. I appreciate that, 198 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 3: and I think velocity is huge. I think the better 199 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,839 Speaker 3: my fastball is velocity wise, the better the rest of 200 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 3: my stuff will be. I mean, if you have to 201 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 3: gear up for ninety five plus, it's tough to adjust 202 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 3: to a curveballer, slider or change up. And I mean 203 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 3: if you have to gear up for ninety two, it's 204 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 3: gonna be easier to adjust everything else, like, and I 205 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 3: think the harder I'm throwing, the better my fastball is 206 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 3: on the vertical break side. So I think one of 207 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 3: the big things that we talked about in tred at 208 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 3: Tread is if you're throwing ninety five plus and you 209 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 3: can put it wherever you want, it doesn't really matter 210 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 3: how the fastball is moving, like, just worry about getting 211 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 3: that below, being consistent with it and being consistent with 212 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 3: your location and your command like that. Those are the 213 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 3: big Those are the biggest things that we really talked about, 214 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 3: fastball wise. But yeah, I really think I've I've had 215 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 3: I've struggled with some inconsistencies in the past, and I 216 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 3: really think that came from my mechanics and just how 217 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 3: I was moving being inconsistent, and like you mentioned my tempo. 218 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 2: Last year, there was times. 219 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 3: Where I would be too fast in my delivery and 220 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 3: it would kind of my arm woul end up being late. 221 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 3: And there was times where I would almost be too 222 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 3: slow and I would get stuck and have no momentum 223 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 3: going down the mountain. And it was kind of just 224 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,439 Speaker 3: going into the off season finding that happy medium where 225 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 3: everything felt smooth and I felt like myself again. 226 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, even looking at just like still frames, not even video, 227 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 4: but just like images of your delivery, especially from twenty 228 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 4: twenty one when you first got into the organization to 229 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 4: where it's at right now. You just look very well connected, 230 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 4: in a good spot to enter into this season. I mean, 231 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,559 Speaker 4: obviously we're excited about baseball in general, but excited to 232 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 4: see what you bring. I imagine at this point you've 233 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:54,079 Speaker 4: probably had a few bullpins in camp, maybe a live VP. Well, 234 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 4: what are those conversations like, you know, taking that information 235 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 4: from the off season with Pajez and Herrera? 236 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 2: Uh what what? What? 237 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 4: What's what's been the main focus as you kind of 238 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 4: gear up and ramp up into these games. 239 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. I've had one pen, one LOTVP so far. The 240 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 2: pen was really really good. 241 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 3: I had a lot of people behind me watching just 242 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,839 Speaker 3: being able to give me feedback, and it's been good 243 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 3: so far. I felt really good in my bullpen in 244 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 3: my live the other day. I would like to get 245 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 3: ahead a little bit more, but I was. I was 246 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 3: able to fight by fight back into counts, which is good. 247 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 3: I was able to throw a lot of breaking stuff 248 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 3: for strikes, which is something you're gonna be gonna have 249 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 3: to have to do during the year, and but I 250 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 3: think by the end of it, I I felt like 251 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 3: myself I was I was moving. 252 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 2: I think I was. 253 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 3: Just moving a little too fast at first, just kind 254 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 3: of like a little bit a little bit too geared 255 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 3: up and uh and ready to go. Just kind of 256 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 3: have to remember to almost take a step back and 257 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 3: take a breath and and kind of think more slow 258 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 3: and smooth rather than, oh, I gotta get this by 259 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 3: I gotta get this by this guy right now and 260 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 3: right away. But yeah, I mean, you take everything as 261 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,959 Speaker 3: you go and it's a learning process and you take 262 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 3: in build on it for the next one. 263 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: Gordon, I definitely want to get into more spring based, 264 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: all activity, all of the fun things. 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I'm wanting to get nervous 291 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: about it, like I totally was before I played it. 292 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: I'm interested you through one live so small sample size, 293 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: but between the hitters you faced and some of the 294 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: other bullpens you've watched. Has anyone really stood out too 295 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: early in camp? 296 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 3: That's a great question. I think Raley O'Brien is a 297 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 3: guy that he came in really hot in camp last 298 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 3: year and kind of was dealing with some injuries and 299 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:01,959 Speaker 3: we got close when it came down to Memphis to 300 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 3: rehab last year, and I think he came in just 301 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 3: as hot this spring training. He looks really, really, really 302 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 3: good right now, throwing hard, sinker's moving like crazy, so 303 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 3: I think he's definitely. 304 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 2: Got to watch. 305 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: They've been pretty I mean, again, it's early, but they've 306 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: been pretty noncommittal day as an Olie Marvel, John Azaylok 307 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: on roles, I'm sure they have an internal idea of 308 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: what they'd ideally like things to look like, but for you, 309 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: it seems like it's a pretty versatile role for you. 310 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: But I did note or thought it was interesting when 311 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: I asked all earlier in the week about what the 312 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: bullpen could look like because it is a wide open competition. 313 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: Your name was one of the first he brought up. 314 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: Have they emphasized to what the if there's like an 315 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: emphasis on relief pitching or starting pitching, or are they 316 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: keeping you in this mold here of just it can 317 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: be anything. 318 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's more of a wait and see 319 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 2: kind of thing. 320 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 3: I think they don't want me to be thinking about 321 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 3: one particular role going in the camp and just kind 322 00:14:56,000 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 3: of keeping my focus on the livps and getting hitters out, uh, 323 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:04,479 Speaker 3: seeing more, seeing what they have in me once games start. 324 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean I'll do anything. I'm I'm ready 325 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 3: to compete for this team or to compete for a 326 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 3: spot on this team, and I'm ready to go make 327 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 3: an impact at the bigger level. 328 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 4: Well, this question might give us a little bit of 329 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 4: an idea. How many pitches did you throw in your LIVP? 330 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 4: How many innings are they telling you to be ready for. 331 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 4: What's kind of the build up process here? 332 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 2: I threw twenty my first LIVP. 333 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 3: It was it actually ended up being like seven hitters 334 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 3: because they were everybody was swinging. 335 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 2: And then on Wednesday I got another one. 336 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 3: It's two innings, it's two ups, so I don't really 337 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 3: know how many pitches it'll be, but yeah, definitely definitely 338 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:44,479 Speaker 3: build them up for more than one inning. 339 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 4: So stretching out a little bit more than one inning 340 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 4: so that that it's easier to go backwards than than 341 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 4: to try and get stretched out in the middle of 342 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 4: the season. So that's always a good tactic. I like 343 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 4: really this time of year. Katie and I were talking 344 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 4: about this before we started the episode, but but when 345 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 4: full squad workouts begin live VP, it feels like like 346 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 4: real baseball, and you know here on Cardinal territory talking 347 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 4: with Gordon Griseppo. This is another extended insight. And if 348 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 4: you're a Cardinal fan and you haven't been to spring training, 349 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 4: I highly encourage it because it's such an intimate setting. 350 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 4: As a player, it's enjoyable. It's a little bit different 351 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 4: interaction that you have with fans in spring training. You 352 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 4: get to be a little bit closer and have them 353 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 4: see an insight to what's really going on behind the scenes. 354 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 4: And that's why I like talking about this, because the 355 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 4: average fan really doesn't have an idea of how competitive 356 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 4: it is at this point. Like you've been training. We 357 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 4: mentioned tread tread is no joke, right, Like, you're coming 358 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 4: in there, guys are getting after it. Everybody's working to 359 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 4: get better. So by the time you lace up your 360 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 4: cleats for the first time at spring training, like you're 361 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 4: you're pretty dialed in and ready to go, and so 362 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 4: I'm interested to hear from you. We talked about you 363 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 4: had your first live VP. We got a little bit 364 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 4: of an idea of your mindset. But what would you 365 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 4: like Cardinals fans to know about Gordon Gerseppo's mindset going 366 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 4: into the twenty twenty five season. 367 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 2: Just said, I'm ready to compete. I'm ready, I'm ready 368 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 2: to go. I'm ready to I'm ready to be on 369 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 2: the on the. 370 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 3: Highest stage of baseball and uh and just ready to 371 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:23,199 Speaker 3: make an impact for this team. I I think that 372 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 3: I could, I could do some real damage at the 373 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 3: big league level, and I feel really ready to go. 374 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 1: I mean, first, I'll backup Treppor's point, I love this 375 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 1: first week of full squad because it's real baseball stuff, 376 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: like the intricate things that you never get to hear. 377 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 1: And if you're a fan that hasn't been a spring training, 378 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: I know it's all about the games, and I obviously 379 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: for training games are fun, but go to the backfields. 380 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 1: I learned so much on the backfield just for the 381 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: two weeks that we're there because I can hear the 382 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 1: interactions like I can hear what you're saying you know, 383 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: to Dusty Blake or Julio as you want for your 384 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: lives and I can see like how the Pitches movie 385 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 1: because I'm there next to your bullpen and it's so interesting. 386 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 1: But to switch to last year for a second most 387 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: of the season in Memphis, and it was an up 388 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 1: and down year again, we talked about the v LA 389 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 1: fluctuation and the command fluctuation. What did you learn in Memphis? 390 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: I think maybe the hardest thing that you learned in 391 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: Memphis last year that allowed you to be in the 392 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 1: place that you are right now, Like the biggest takeaway. 393 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think last year was probably one of the 394 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 3: toughest years in my career so far, just from a 395 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 3: mechanical standpoint and being frustrated and thinking that just working 396 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 3: as hard as I did over the off season and 397 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 3: coming in and just not feeling right. Obviously, I stayed 398 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 3: off the AEOL, which was huge. I was able to 399 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 3: make pretty much every single start, and I think, I 400 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 3: mean obviously made my debut and that's huge, but I 401 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 3: feel like there's just so much more in the tank 402 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 3: and so much more that I can do for a team. 403 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 3: And I mean, if that's if that's my floor, then 404 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 3: then uh, we'll see what We'll see what happens. And 405 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:06,199 Speaker 3: I think it I think I learned that just you 406 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 3: kind of have to regardless of how you feel at 407 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 3: the time, you kind of just have to trust yourself 408 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 3: and trust your stuff and go out there and compete 409 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 3: because you can't be worrying about how you feel or 410 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 3: or how your mechanics feel, or how how you look 411 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 3: like how the stuff looks coming out. You kind of 412 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 3: just have to go out and compete, and it's your 413 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 3: verse the hitter. And once I kind of was able 414 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 3: to realize that and not think thanks so much, almost 415 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 3: I had some more success. 416 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great. 417 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 4: I mean, and it's every level that you move up, 418 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 4: it's it's much different, and you've gone through the system 419 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 4: rather quickly. 420 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 6: I know. 421 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 4: In double A it's like, you know, there's a lot 422 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 4: of prospects, a lot of potential talent, a lot of 423 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 4: young guys that are eager to get out in the 424 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 4: field for the first time. In triple A it gets 425 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 4: a little bit more polished. But I mean, what was 426 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 4: your what was the biggest difference that you saw going 427 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 4: from Triple A to the big leagues even. 428 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I triple it. 429 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 3: It's really just the Obviously you have the stars that 430 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 3: are in the big leagues and the guys that that 431 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 3: everybody talks about, everyone wants to watch, But I mean, 432 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 3: the brand of baseball. 433 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 2: You just have to keep it the same, you can't. 434 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 2: I feel like the hardest part. 435 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 3: About getting to the big leagues is is kind of 436 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 3: getting over the fact that you're in the big leagues. 437 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 2: I'm just kind of pretending it's it's the same game. 438 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 3: And I think once I kind of realized that and 439 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 3: was able to lock in on on what I was 440 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 3: doing in the task at hand, I had way more success. 441 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 3: And uh, I think just having that little taste last 442 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 3: year has prepared me so much for for. 443 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 2: What's what's gonna come this year. And I just I 444 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 2: just can't wait to get going. 445 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 4: I mean you yeah, sorry, Katie. I mean, do you 446 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 4: have any specific personal goals? I mean, I know you 447 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 4: you have like this this ferocious mindset. You're like, I'm ready, 448 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 4: I'm gonna do some damage. Is there anything outside of 449 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 4: I love I love that you, you know, you really 450 00:20:56,200 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 4: value being healthy and being able to contribute consistently. You 451 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:04,239 Speaker 4: talked about, uh, you know, regardless of the day, the 452 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 4: temperature or the way you're feeling. You know, you just 453 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 4: have to trust that you've done the work and that 454 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 4: you're you know, you're the man for the job. But 455 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,360 Speaker 4: outside of just that that that tough mentality that you have, 456 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 4: are there any like specific personal goals that you've really 457 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 4: set and maybe even wrote out on paper for yourself. 458 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, Uh, definitely, make the team out of camp 459 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:24,360 Speaker 3: is a is a big one. 460 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 2: And just kind of stay there. 461 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 3: I mean, it's people say nowadays it's making the debut 462 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 3: is the easier part, and kind of staying there is 463 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 3: the part that's tough, just because there's so many moving 464 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 3: parts and there's so many guys just chomping at the 465 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 3: bit ready to go. But yeah, just definitely making the 466 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 3: team and staying there is a huge goal of mine 467 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 3: and just enjoying the journey. Like not really if I 468 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 3: if I don't make the team out of camp, it's 469 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 3: not the end of the world. You just you kind 470 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 3: of have to you take it one day at a time, 471 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 3: and and you show up in Memphis and and you 472 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 3: you make that first start, you make that first appearance, 473 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 3: and then you take it day by day and you 474 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 3: make the next one and whatever happens happens, because stuff 475 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 3: always happens down the road, and it's just enjoying that 476 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 3: journey and enjoying the ride that makes it that much 477 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 3: sweeter once you get there. 478 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 1: Gordon, you've we have six weeks to figure out what 479 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,439 Speaker 1: this Cardinals team is going to look like. But I 480 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 1: know veteran rotation aside. We know what sunny Gray looks like. 481 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 1: Eric Vetti, Miles, Michael Stephen Matts. We know that. But 482 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 1: when you look at your pitching staff as a whole, 483 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 1: what's the strength that you think that's maybe flying under 484 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:25,479 Speaker 1: the radar this early on. 485 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 2: Well, I think we saw last year how good the 486 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 2: bullpen really is. 487 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 3: And obviously up Hellsley in the back end and he's 488 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 3: going to shut the door pretty much every single time. 489 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 3: And I just think you let those young guys run 490 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 3: in the pen and. 491 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 2: And they we can be really really good. 492 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 3: I mean this, this bullpen last year was was one 493 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 3: of the top opens in baseball. I mean we went 494 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 3: over a lot of the stats when we first came 495 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 3: into camp, and the walk rate, the walk grate was 496 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 3: super low, and the carrate, the Kada walk was really 497 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 3: really good, and just how we attack these hitters once. 498 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 3: Once these guys come in the game, and we've were 499 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 3: really really good last year, and I think we can 500 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 3: only build on that this year. 501 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: Love it saw the bullpen in person for one hundred 502 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 1: and fifty plus games last year. It was indeed very good, 503 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 1: and I think that will be a key for this 504 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 1: Cardinals team again. They won eighty three games last year 505 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 1: with a subpar offense, but that bullpen was legit. And 506 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: I think this internal competition that you all have will 507 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: bring out the best, right. I mean, you talked about 508 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: guys like Riley O'Brien. That's Trevor's pick too. He loves 509 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: Riley O'Brien. You go down the list after Hellsley, Jojo. 510 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: You never know, like who's going to slide in? Bernandez 511 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 1: had a great year, Libi had a great year last year. 512 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: Now it's your turn, Gordon, and we are excited to 513 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 1: see it. 514 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm ready to go. I feel like it's going 515 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 3: to be a good year. My body feels good, and 516 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 3: my mechanics feel good, and my stuff feels good. So 517 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 3: it's just putting it all together and being there for 518 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 3: when my name is called. 519 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, Katie, there's a lot of guys to choose from 520 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 4: in this bullpen, guys to be excited about. You know, Gordon, 521 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 4: he gee here he mentioned O'Brien and that's that's the 522 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 4: kind of the same thing I saw. I saw some 523 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 4: very insane metrics analytics on his arsenal and I was like, Okay, 524 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 4: this guy's an interesting guy to watch, and I know 525 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 4: he's had trouble staying on the field, but if we 526 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 4: can find a way to get him out there, I 527 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 4: know he can make an impact. But you know, Gordon Grisefo, 528 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 4: He's no, he's no sham himself. He's gonna be right 529 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 4: in the mixed Gordon. So are you still hometown in 530 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 4: New Jersey or where are you spending your off season? 531 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 3: So I was in Charlotte this entire offseason at Tread. 532 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 3: It was my first first off season away from home. 533 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 3: But yeah, a lot of guys will kind of stay 534 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 3: at home, come into Tread like maybe once a month, 535 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 3: kind of get a bullpen in, kind of get get 536 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 3: eyes on you. But I decided that if I wanted 537 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 3: to do this right and kind of give my career 538 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 3: the best shot of being as good as it could be, 539 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 3: I wanted to make that commitment and and kind of 540 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 3: leave Jersey and move to Charlotte's to be there every day, 541 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:57,479 Speaker 3: to be there in person, because I feel like that's 542 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 3: how I get the best work done. And it was great. 543 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 3: I loved it, and I think I would definitely do 544 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 3: it again. It's it's just different every single year what 545 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 3: you want to work on and how you feel at 546 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 3: the end of the year. So we'll see what happens. 547 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 3: But yeah, it was it was great. 548 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 4: No, I like that. 549 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 2: I like that all in approach. 550 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 4: I mean, if you had to pick out on one modality, 551 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 4: like one training technique that you really are staying consistent 552 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 4: with right now and look to continue into spring training, 553 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 4: do you is there one thing that really stood out 554 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 4: from your time and tried this offseason. 555 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, we did it for the first time in an 556 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 3: offseason pretty much in my career. We did a ton 557 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 3: of like constrained plio drills with the weighted balls, and 558 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 3: I think that really kind of taught my body and 559 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 3: my arm how to move in the right way. And 560 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 3: once you kind of hammer in those movements, it makes 561 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,479 Speaker 3: it almost second nature when you're on the mound. And 562 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 3: that's just something that I really really would like to 563 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 3: keep going during the year because I think that that's 564 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 3: what helps me feel my best going into going into 565 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 3: a starter or coming out of the pen. That was 566 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 3: one thing that we focused on that I think really 567 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:10,199 Speaker 3: really paid off in the end. 568 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: Gordon, this is great again. We talked all off season 569 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: about the youth movement and you certainly would be a 570 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 1: face in that. I think Cardinals fans have a lot 571 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: to look forward to when it comes to you. Thank 572 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 1: you again for joining the show again. First player interview. 573 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: You can put that on your baseball reference page. This 574 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: is a big deal for us, so we're really glad 575 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: that you took some time out of your very busy 576 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: day to join us. Thank you so much. 577 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, thank you guys for having me. 578 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 1: All right, you know where to find us. We are 579 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: on Spotify, YouTube, Apple. I don't have the banners ready. 580 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: I almost was a perfect producer today, so close. I'd 581 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: give myself like a B plus. We'll be back next week. 582 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,199 Speaker 1: Lots to get into games are starting, so we'll have 583 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: some real competition there and again you can find us 584 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: breaking it down here on Cardinal Territory for Gordon Griseppo 585 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: and Trevor Rosenhal. I'm Katie Wu talk to you soon.