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Speaker 2: I'm a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,

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Speaker 1: And them and Tye welcome back the Solid Rebel boys

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Speaker 1: Oh they're in beautiful, if not wintry, Chicago, Illinois. The

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Speaker 1: one and only Dan Rubiste, sir, how are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm good. I have a forty eight hour fermented dough

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Speaker 1: So hold on. Yeah, when you say it's in your

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Well that's my assumption.

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Speaker 1: Are we to interpret that you've eaten the dough baby

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Speaker 2: Ty, I don't spoiler alert. Babies don't live in the stomach. Now,

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Speaker 2: I don't know what kind of sex ed was offered

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Speaker 2: in Eastern spee. Okay, okay, I just am now thinking

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Speaker 2: twice about what you learned in ninth grade I have

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Speaker 2: eaten it, and it is. It is in my belly

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Speaker 2: digesting right now. So I feel very good. And I

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Speaker 2: if I may tie on that topic on this it's

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Speaker 2: week fifteen, Yes, yep, second to last, second to last.

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Speaker 2: It's we're deep into December this season. I'm going to

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Speaker 2: with the soundtrack, so you better have something great in response.

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Speaker 2: Slippery soggy swallow Saturday.

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Speaker 1: That's very dirty.

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Speaker 2: That is very dirty, Ben, may I explain myself.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have to.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of weather happening, Tie, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: That that should be onlike late night cinemax right there, Dan.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: match up against that. It is week Yeah, keen, second

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the show. I'm Tie, He's Dan. Don't

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Speaker 1: It is week fifteen, the week week fifteen. Because of

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Speaker 2: Six and one, Nevada again, San Jose State undefeated, Come

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Speaker 1: Bangers only. Let's start at high noon in the early

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Speaker 2: A lot, some of them. Give me eleven of those thoughts.

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Speaker 1: Almost all eleven of those come back to one simple

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Speaker 1: What the hell happened to West Virginia last week? What

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Speaker 2: Oh, I can tell you they left Morgantown, West Virginia.

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Speaker 2: This year, West Virginia went not in Morgantown, scored thirteen

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Speaker 2: That's what happened after two weeks of not playing football.

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Speaker 1: Is there any kind of look ahead factor for Oklahoma?

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Speaker 1: They're on the road, They're in a game that doesn't

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Speaker 2: Maybe, but at Oklahoma's pretty squarely out of the college

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Speaker 1: They are, but it's a revenge game that could play

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Speaker 1: They got a lot to play for here. Neil Brown's

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Speaker 2: Off the energy of eighty three people in the stands.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, is Vegas overlooking how good Oklahoma's looked since that

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, did Oklahoma not play a team with

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Speaker 2: allowed thirty one points I believe in regulation in that game.

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Speaker 2: But since that Iowa State game they've been allowing eighteen

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Speaker 2: they have that they had a short field against Iowa

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Speaker 2: So I am I think I'm roll with Oklahoma here,

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Speaker 2: And what do you think in for final score here?

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Speaker 2: Thirty eight to thirteen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I got thirty one to fourteen in favor of Oklahoma.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, still a growing deal. They're just consistently not able

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Speaker 1: So you know, I mean, don't shoot the messenger here.

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Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, as.

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Speaker 1: As I'm thinking ahead to next week, which is going

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Speaker 2: Not this week. No, and I'll tell you why.

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Speaker 1: Five to one Northwestern a two touchdown favorite, and we've

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Speaker 2: They're just a tough out. I don't know if they're tough.

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Speaker 2: They're three and six. But this game is also going

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Speaker 2: little bit more difficult. Maybe it's a Nick Saban geez, folks,

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Speaker 2: we only won by twenty four. You're not good enough.

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Speaker 2: It's a good Arkansas, So I'm taking Arkansas there. I

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Speaker 2: I've broken ribs. It's very pain, sneezing and coughing and laughing,

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Speaker 2: I think Georgia will try to run up that score

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Speaker 2: on that, mostly beyond Wake being good enough to take

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Speaker 2: Minnesota Nebraska not a great game, Illinois Northwestern not a

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Speaker 2: great game, But snowy football on TV is something I enjoy.

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Speaker 1: combined with an already bad game, it does make it

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Speaker 1: more interesting.

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Speaker 2: Bad weather does make it easier to play defense against

434
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Speaker 2: Brian Kelly teams, though that we know that we have

435
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Speaker 2: the data points on non it just makes it like

436
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Speaker 2: higher potential for like, hey, nobody can kick an eleven

437
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 2: yard field goal like screwiness. That to me is the

438
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Speaker 2: fun of the snow game potential windows.

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Speaker 1: I don't really understand that Georgia Mazoo line. I think

440
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Speaker 1: that one should be higher. I know Miszoo is feisty,

441
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Speaker 1: but I've got Georgia by like at least seventeen there,

442
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Speaker 1: maybe by twenty one. I think they're a much much

443
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Speaker 1: better team. I think the defense will ultimately give them

444
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Speaker 1: more than enough separation here to cover this point spread.

445
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Speaker 1: So you know, you look at Missoo's offense, it's like

446
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Speaker 1: ninety the fourth something in the nineties in the S

447
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Speaker 1: and P plus. It's not an efficient offense going up

448
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Speaker 1: against a really good defense like this. I'm just not

449
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Speaker 1: sure where the points are coming from. So I hesitate

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Speaker 1: to lock it up because I don't like locking up

451
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Speaker 1: road teams. But I do like Georgia there pretty significantly.

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Speaker 2: Alabama beat Miszoo by nineteen in Colombia. You think Georgia

453
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Speaker 2: wins by more than Alabama can do can muster? Also

454
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Speaker 2: at home, LSU fell victim by four points to Missoo,

455
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Speaker 2: Kentucky loses by ten to Missoo. Vanderbilt loses by forty one,

456
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Speaker 2: Arkansas loses by two. Tigers are frisky A frisky? I

457
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Speaker 2: like Georgia minus twelve and a half. Okay, I do too,

458
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Speaker 2: but I don't think it's like an absurd line. I

459
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Speaker 2: think they went by like fifteen I think it's something

460
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Speaker 2: like a thirty four to nineteen type final score. I mean,

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Speaker 2: a right, let's go.

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Speaker 1: To the mid afternoon block if we could. Let's this

463
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Speaker 1: is a tasty matchup, Dan, this is a spicy matchup

464
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Speaker 1: in the ACC, Dan, that I'm really interested to talk

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Speaker 1: about with you.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Duke Florida State, what are your thoughts? Hit me?

467
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Speaker 1: I'm talking North Carolina at seven and three. I'm talking

468
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Speaker 1: Miami Hurricanes at eight and one. The Canes are about

469
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Speaker 1: a three, three and a half point favorite neutral field.

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Speaker 1: If you look at the numbers, it's a pick them.

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Speaker 1: You surprised at all by this point spread? And you're

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Speaker 1: surprise at Miami's favorite here?

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Speaker 2: No? I mean do you love North Like? What's North

474
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Speaker 2: Carolina's signature win this year? I'm just asking Carolina loss

475
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Speaker 2: to Florida State on the road.

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Speaker 1: We're in the marketplace of ideas here on this podcast, Dan,

477
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Speaker 1: I just want to know, does it surprise you at all?

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Speaker 2: You're saying no, No, did you think Miami was gonna

479
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Speaker 2: be a bigger favorite?

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Speaker 1: I thought North Carolina might be favored here. To be

481
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Speaker 1: honest with you, I'm not saying I think North Carolina

482
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Speaker 1: is genuinely the better team. I'm just saying the points

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Speaker 1: spread Miami home, Miami at home home, favored by three

484
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Speaker 1: and a half. Just wondering if you're surprised, surprise me

485
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Speaker 1: a little. Uh.

486
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Speaker 2: North Carolina be Boston College by four on the road,

487
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Speaker 2: lost to Florida State by three, lost to Virginia by three.

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Speaker 2: Stop me if you're getting too aroused at the thought

489
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Speaker 2: of Mac Brown and the Heels on the road here, ty,

490
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 2: stop me, please if I need to slow down. Yeah,

491
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Speaker 2: I think that's why. I think North Carolina has shown

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Speaker 2: itself to be largely pretty uneven on the road. They

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Speaker 2: allow too much on defense. I mean they give it

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Speaker 2: forty four to Virginia. Am I reading this correctly? Forty

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Speaker 2: four to Virginia and Miami has a better quarterback, they

496
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Speaker 2: have better receivers. Line has been uneven. But no, I

497
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Speaker 2: understand this line. I for sure understand this line. I'm

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Speaker 2: going with North Carolina here, though, are you?

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Speaker 1: Why are you going with Carolina?

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Speaker 2: I understand the line. I'm going with Carolina because I

501
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Speaker 2: don't know if I fully trust Miami's ability to stop

502
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Speaker 2: the run for four quarters that.

503
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Speaker 1: Will hold on this guy. That's a good point. But

504
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 1: this guy slams the tar heels on the road.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just explaining to why the line is what it.

506
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Speaker 1: Is, and then he takes them anyway. Okay, so you're

507
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Speaker 1: the running game is I think a very good counterpoint.

508
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Speaker 1: I'm a complicated gentleman. Ty, I'm taking Miami. I'm taking

509
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Speaker 1: Miami for the same reason it took Notre Dame a

510
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Speaker 1: couple weeks back. The common thread in all three of

511
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Speaker 1: Carolina's losses was a quarterback who could make plays with

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Speaker 1: its legs. Jordan Travis right Brendan Armstrong. In both of

513
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 1: those games, the offense was more geared around the quarterback run.

514
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Speaker 1: It wasn't as much the case for Ian Book and

515
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Speaker 1: Notre Dame, but he still got his and made some

516
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Speaker 1: big plays on the ground. I'd argue that Deer King

517
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Speaker 1: has much more playmaking ability than any of those three.

518
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Speaker 1: Say it's a better quarterback, but the playmaking is there,

519
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: and I think the defense is solid enough. The offense

520
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: certainly has enough firepower to win a shootout. There are

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Speaker 1: probably gonna be a lot of points in this game,

522
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Speaker 1: but I think I'm going to air on the side

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Speaker 1: of the running quarterback. In the Eric King which I

524
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Speaker 1: know is a matchup that has given Carolina trouble. So

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the final is, but I'm going

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Speaker 1: to lay the three and a half and go Miami

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Speaker 1: at home.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I am fascinated to watch this game. I'm going

529
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Speaker 2: this is appointment television for me. Watching the edge rushers

530
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Speaker 2: from Miami t off against the North Carolina line that

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Speaker 2: hasn't been amazing all year and see how Sam Howell

532
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Speaker 2: is able to deal with that sort of pressure. Miami

533
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 2: was hit by a lot of COVID outs roster losses

534
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Speaker 2: last week. I don't know what their roster looks like

535
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Speaker 2: this week, so I could understand some trepidation about the

536
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Speaker 2: Canes even though they're playing at home here at eight

537
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Speaker 2: and one. But yeah, I really can't wait to watch

538
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Speaker 2: this game. This was close last year in Chapel Hill.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to unc here. I just like that rushing

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Speaker 2: attack too much. Are we not previewing the early games

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Speaker 2: that did? You just want me to defend why it's

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Speaker 2: an early window. I can tell you other thoughts I

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Speaker 2: have on them.

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Speaker 1: We talked about quickly games. What else do you I

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Speaker 1: have to talk about? Wow?

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Speaker 2: Time you want to talk about Rutgers Maryland, be my guest.

547
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Speaker 2: I don't have any of the Ruggers Maryland thoughts talk

548
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Speaker 2: about Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: Nebraska, be my guest. What do you want to say?

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Speaker 2: This is a game. This is the game that Nebraska

551
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Speaker 2: fans are going to use once Nebraska comfortably wins this

552
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Speaker 2: game to feel optimistic for the next eleven months, eight

553
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Speaker 2: and a half months, whatever it is. This is that game.

554
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Speaker 2: Nebraska is going to win this game, like thirty five

555
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 2: to eleven. We're like, okay, let's just we're gonna build

556
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 2: the whole plane out of that week and that's the

557
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Speaker 2: cycle continues time. Minnesota is a nice.

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Speaker 1: Pick me upper this year against that defense, it has

559
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Speaker 1: been the cure for the common offense.

560
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm actually going to take the Gophers here. Nebraska's

561
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 2: gonna win this game. But I still think the Nebraska

562
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Speaker 2: performance is going to They're not gonna be as dominant

563
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 2: as I just joked about. Nebraska's gonna win. But Minnesota

564
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 2: covers this game. It's been a strange year for the

565
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Speaker 2: Gophers and Wake over Louisville.

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Speaker 1: I like.

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Speaker 2: I like them as a road dog because Louisville is

568
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Speaker 2: a flawed team and Wake is just that team to

569
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Speaker 2: take advantage of another one with flaws. I have ruckers

570
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 2: against Maryland just because Maryland's ear has been largely uneven

571
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Speaker 2: in terms of scheduling and rosters. So I'm gonna go

572
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Speaker 2: Rutgers once again. I believe.

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Speaker 1: Let's go back to our rightful place here in the middle.

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Speaker 2: And Illinois against Northwestern in the snow.

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Speaker 1: I'm taking those points mid after noon block, Dan, let's

576
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Speaker 1: stay in the big ten. I'm ready. Wisconsin two and two,

577
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: Iowa five and two. The Hawk guys a one point

578
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: home favorite. I saw it at point five. It's essentially

579
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Speaker 1: a pick um.

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00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So here's where we stand on this game. I was

582
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: started zero and two. They've ripped off five straight, with

583
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Speaker 1: the exception of that Nebraska game and maybe the first

584
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Speaker 1: quarter of the Illinois game. They've looked really solid. They've

585
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: looked really solid. On the Wisconsin side. They scored a

586
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Speaker 1: hardy thirteen combined points against Northwestern in Indiana. I really

587
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: like both those defenses, Dan, but not that much and

588
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: not that much that they should be holding Wisconsin down

589
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 1: to thirteen points collectively. Okay, clearly the Badgers are leading

590
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: with defense right now as they try to figure out

591
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Speaker 1: this whole offense thing. So I get the line. I

592
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Speaker 1: understand the lot.

593
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 2: As they're trying to figure out this whole offense thing

594
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Speaker 2: the last week of.

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Speaker 1: The year, the last week of the it's a weird year, Dan, Yeah,

596
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: fifth game of the year. I don't have a strong opinion.

597
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,719
Speaker 1: I get the line. I think you have to go

598
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,719
Speaker 1: with the team you're more confident in right now, and

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00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: for me, that's Iowa. This could be a raise to

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Speaker 1: like seventeen points. Iwas played that game before. They always

601
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Speaker 1: play that game a couple times a year. I think

602
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: there's just much more to feel good about on the

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Speaker 1: Iowa side of things here. I have lost confidence in

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Speaker 1: Graham Mertz to do a whole lot against a better defense.

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Speaker 1: So things being what they are, a weird year, Guine

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00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: Iowa outright at home?

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Speaker 2: I agree, and lock it up for me, please.

608
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Speaker 1: Lock of the week? Why you locking this one up?

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you two reasons. Play the other sound

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Speaker 2: I gave you before the show, Tys, it's gonna snow.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right over?

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Speaker 2: So Hey, we have the obvious element of it being

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Speaker 2: a low scoring game with two offenses that have been

614
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Speaker 2: underwhelming this year. To say the least, and I agree

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Speaker 2: with you that it has the markings of a thirteen

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Speaker 2: to nine game. Kirk Farrence has a PhD in thirteen nine.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, right. I know we're on the

618
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 2: very very same page.

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Speaker 1: Agree.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, i AW wins this game with the quarterbacks combining

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Speaker 2: to go seven of twenty nine something like that. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Iowa wins this. Sure, they're built for it.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm with you, Dan. I don't know if

624
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Speaker 1: I'm quite as confident so as to lock this up,

625
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 1: but I think we agree.

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Speaker 2: Let's PhD in thirteen to nine.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk about Coastal Carolina's follow up effort to

628
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 1: the big win last week against BYU. They're now a

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Speaker 1: thirteen point road favorite at ten and zero going up

630
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 1: against Troy. Troy is five and five. We got a

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Speaker 1: tweet from a gentleman named Andrew who said he wants

632
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Speaker 1: to put all his money on Troy because it looks

633
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Speaker 1: like a letdown spot for Coastal. I think I'm leaning

634
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Speaker 1: in as well, Andrew. We have no accountability on this show,

635
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: so why not?

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Speaker 2: Is this a Tracy Chapman situation for you? Though? Like,

637
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Speaker 2: can you give me one good reason why Troy.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I could. Yeah, my one reason isn't

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00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 1: a good one, and it's all about in tangible that's

640
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,720
Speaker 1: the that's the word of caution here. If you're taking

641
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: Troy plus the points, you're doing it entirely for intangible reasons,

642
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,919
Speaker 1: because Troy has not beaten one team inside the SP

643
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: plus top one hundred. I almost said top ten. My god,

644
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: take my tongue. They got murdered by BYU. They got

645
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 1: murdered by app State. The other losses were much closer,

646
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 1: albeit against substantially worse teams. So if you are going

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Speaker 1: Troy here Andrew as I am, I am with you,

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00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: I am your brother in arms, just saying, don't don't

649
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 1: expect a whole lot out of this one, because there

650
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: really aren't a lot of great reasons on paper to

651
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: go Troy. So are you saying outright, no, I'm not,

652
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: you can't eat I'm saying plus the points, you coward,

653
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,760
Speaker 1: plus the points. You can't give me a single reason

654
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,760
Speaker 1: Troy hangs with Coastal Carolina.

655
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:56,720
Speaker 2: I gave you my reason.

656
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: There's a down effect. That's my reason. That's my true Chapman.

657
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 2: Coastal has not come this far as a program, as

658
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:11,760
Speaker 2: a team, I understand the letdown element. But Troy, Troy

659
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 2: h twenty nine points, an impressive win against South Alabama,

660
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 2: but before that ten, seventeen, thirteen and losses. Yeah, pass

661
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 2: pass past past something Troy doesn't do all that. Well,

662
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 2: I'm going to say Coastal wins this by twenty one points.

663
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: What happens? Riddle me this, Dan, what happens if the

664
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: playoff rankings come out tonight? It's Tuesday, right, m hm,

665
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:41,280
Speaker 1: and they're like eighth. You think that's lum and large.

666
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 1: You think they care about Troy. You think they're thinking

667
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: about what they're gonna do on a third and long?

668
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 1: Or do you think they're looking at that sweet sweet

669
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: New Year's Day, that big time bowl game, New Year's six.

670
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 2: I think there's a little bit of.

671
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: A look ahead factor.

672
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,320
Speaker 2: Well, I think that's what Byu was doing. So Coastal

673
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 2: knows the wake up element to this. So no, I

674
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 2: don't think that is going to phase Ty. Obviously, you

675
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 2: have not patrolled the main streets of Conway, South Carolina,

676
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,879
Speaker 2: the Greater Myrtle Beach area, so you don't know what a.

677
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: Broadway at the beach, Dan, I've been to Broadway at

678
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 1: the beach. Don't tell okay, uh.

679
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 2: Coastal is going to be fine. There's a reason they

680
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 2: got this far. This is not playing app State in

681
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 2: the letdown spot right. This isn't playing like a weird

682
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 2: Army Navy even like Rice or Air Force, like playing

683
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 2: the triple after playing this team that wants to bomb

684
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 2: down the field with Zach Wilson, it's not a crazy

685
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 2: shift in offensive philosophy. I'm going Coastal. So you're even

686
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 2: the shan So you're just not a believer. I get it.

687
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 2: I get it. You're a hater yourself. Now.

688
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: They're fun, a lot of really fun to watch, but

689
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: they are. I'm going to go Troy here some other games, yeah,

690
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 1: very quickly, six games to seven games to rifle through

691
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: Perdue at India. Indiana at six and one is a

692
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: nine and a half point home favorite. We got Penn

693
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: State favored by two touchdowns over Michigan State. Oregon at home,

694
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: favored by six points over the Washington Huskies. Florida State

695
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 1: at home, favored by four and a half over Duke

696
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:23,479
Speaker 1: Texas favored by thirty on the road at Kansas, got

697
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: Tennessee on the road at Vandy. I don't have a

698
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: line for this one. I don't know if they released it.

699
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 1: Can look that one up. And then we've got the

700
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:37,240
Speaker 1: notable Navy versus Army game. Army versus Navy game, Army's

701
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: about a seven point favorite. Yep, going into this what

702
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: do you think? How you feel?

703
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 2: Well? It sounds like Indiana Purdue is not going to happen.

704
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 2: There are very few stories of like, well, this team

705
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 2: paused everything football and then twenty four hours, forty hours

706
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 2: later people saying everything's cool, cool, We're good, everything's good.

707
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 2: So if this game happens, I like that. Tom Allen

708
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 2: love everyone Purdue this year, sixteen point seven percent winning

709
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 2: percentage against the spread. Vegas likes Purdue a lot more

710
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 2: than everybody else in the Big Ten does, So I

711
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 2: like Indiana to take the bucket if somehow this game

712
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:19,280
Speaker 2: gets played. The Michigan State floor is somehow more dramatic

713
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,959
Speaker 2: and sad than the Penn State floor. So I'm actually

714
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 2: going to go with State here, who is starting to

715
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 2: play the younger guys to some positive effect. So I'm

716
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 2: going to go Penn State there. I'm taking Washington on

717
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 2: the road against Oregon. Tyler Shuck struggled mightily against a decent,

718
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 2: if not pretty good, Cal defensive backfield, and Washington has

719
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 2: the best secondary in the conference to my eyes anyway,

720
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 2: so I think there is opportunity. I just I don't

721
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 2: think Oregon is all that good. I don't think Washington's

722
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 2: all that good. But I just it's hard for me

723
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 2: to see Tyler Shuck turning it around this week. I

724
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 2: hope he does, but hard to see. Also, it's a

725
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 2: saggy affair tie a lot of rain expected in the

726
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 2: Willammett Valley Florida State. I guess I'll take Florista against

727
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 2: Duke because betting against Duke is kind of a wise

728
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 2: thing to do. In twenty twenty, I'm gonna take Texas

729
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,760
Speaker 2: big against Kansas, although it's in the snow and thirty

730
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 2: points in the snow, you know it's supposed to be

731
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 2: pretty biting and cold there in Lawrence.

732
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: I don't know.

733
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 2: I still I don't think the snow is a good

734
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 2: enough reason when Kansas plays football like it does. Vanderbilt

735
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 2: Tennessee Sagi, Sagi. I guess I'll go Ken Seals Asuzu

736
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 2: and Vandy to cover but not win, just because it's

737
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 2: been that kind of year for Tennessee, even with Vandy

738
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,720
Speaker 2: at on to eight, and I'll take Army over Navy.

739
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 2: Maybe's not great against the run, Army can run the

740
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:42,720
Speaker 2: ball some. I'm gonna go Army in the Army games

741
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 2: in West Point. I believe this year. Right, it's not

742
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 2: in Baltimore.

743
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: That's correct, Yeah, gimme Army. I will go Penn State

744
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: because I feel like they're playing better. I will go

745
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: Washington plus the points on the road at Oregon because

746
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: I have no faith in either team and I'm just

747
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:03,760
Speaker 1: gonna take points. Hm gonna got soggy, Yeah, FSU minus

748
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: whatever against Duke Texas minus whatever at Kansas, and I

749
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: will also go Vandy plus the points at Tennessee.

750
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 2: I don't know if you heard.

751
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: There was like a weird kind of like underhanded potential

752
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,240
Speaker 1: dig at Vandy and Jeremy Prue at the press conference.

753
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: I didn't really hear it. Twitter was talking about it,

754
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 1: so maybe, like everything on Twitter, more will be made

755
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: of that than actually was. And Vandy can use that

756
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 1: as bolleton board material. But oh and eight, I don't

757
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 1: know they went out right, but they're going to cover

758
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: the spread whatever that ends up.

759
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:43,439
Speaker 2: Being yeah, my interim situation too. Sometimes those teams fight

760
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 2: a little bit more with some a change of leadership.

761
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 2: Who knows at Vandy you ever spend any time in

762
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,399
Speaker 2: the Hudson Valley. In the Hudson Valley, Yeah, it's where

763
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 2: West Point is, right along the Hudson River. I have

764
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 2: hold Spring Action Bear Mountain. I've heard a lot of

765
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 2: good things about it.

766
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ty, you gotta go. Yeah, it's so charming and lovely.

767
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: Charming and lovely. Let's go to it late.

768
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 2: You can hike around. There's good food, a bunch of ins.

769
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 2: I know you're into that life.

770
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know me Lake Games. LSU on the

771
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 1: Road at Florida, Florida is a twenty four point favorite.

772
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 1: I don't have much to offer here, Dan, I I

773
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 1: think the line's about right. I think LSU might be

774
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: in pack it up packet in territory?

775
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 2: Whoam right?

776
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: I think that. I think that they're in pack it

777
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 1: up packet in territory here. I think maybe they just

778
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 1: want it to be over with. I think Florida is

779
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: going to be going for style points. As someone on

780
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: Tennessee said last week, they might be trying to pad

781
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: Kyle Trask's stats, so there is no reason to call

782
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: off the dog's here at all, and with minimal resistance otherwise,

783
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 1: even despite the situation, I think Florida wins this one comfortably.

784
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: I think they win this one big, So give me the.

785
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 2: Not a look ahead spot though, for the same reason

786
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 2: you thought some other matchups might be.

787
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: I think it would be a look ahead spot that

788
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: is negated by the fact that LSU just wants this

789
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: all to be over with. I think you're right, man.

790
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, LS on the road packing up. I guess I'll

791
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 2: go Florida here. I have no reason, you know, when

792
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,760
Speaker 2: you look at LSU and what seems like some turmoil.

793
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 2: They are fifty to fifty against the spread. Yeah, I

794
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 2: think I'm gonna go Florida here. Yeah, the staff hadding

795
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 2: is interesting to me. I don't have a good reason.

796
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,439
Speaker 2: I just don't, So yeah, I'll go. I'll go Gators here. Also,

797
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 2: there's bad blood. There's the LSU Florida blad blood that's

798
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 2: developed over the past few years. So I like the

799
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 2: uh that element of sending a message to its own

800
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 2: fan base, the Gators. Yeah, the one by four touchdowns plus,

801
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 2: by the way, another recruiting matchup, right, it's another one

802
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 2: of those like, well, it's floor gonna call off the dogs,

803
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 2: or is there a potential way to send messages to

804
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 2: recruits like this is where the LSU program is right now?

805
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 2: Or four or five touchdowns?

806
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: Better?

807
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 2: Sorry?

808
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: Continue. The other matchup here to highlight is USC against UCLA.

809
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: This is an interesting game. USC is four to oh.

810
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:28,439
Speaker 1: They square off against UCLA three and two. USC only

811
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 1: a three point favorite. Here, Dan, If I said to

812
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: you it feels like USC should be favored by more,

813
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: I think you'd laugh at me, because that's the pretty

814
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: much the entire story of the Clayhelton era. But I

815
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: really feel like see USC should be favored by at

816
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: least a touchdown here? Am I off base?

817
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 2: No, you're not fully off base. It's a short week

818
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 2: for them. We didn't mention, but they did beat Wazoo.

819
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,720
Speaker 2: I think it was thirty eight thirteen and they scored

820
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 2: twenty one points. Was twenty one nothing, I believe after

821
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 2: the first quarter. So they jumped out really impressively, something

822
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 2: they haven't really been able to do until that Wazoo

823
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,919
Speaker 2: game at home last week. So short week, but they're

824
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,439
Speaker 2: obviously not traveling anywhere, even though they're on the road.

825
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 2: They're going from downtown LA to Pasadena. It's like sixteen

826
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 2: minute drive. It's nothing, So that doesn't really affect me.

827
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 2: I like UCLA here. I like the UCLA. I think

828
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 2: there's momentum, even though I saw what sp plus is

829
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 2: something like a seven point seven point something point. Favorite

830
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 2: is that the projection USC's win against the Bruins. UCLA

831
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 2: running the ball against this Tod Orlando USC defense and

832
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 2: its inability to tackle consistently like that Chip Kelly versus

833
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 2: Todd Orlando matchup is kind of tantalizing. UCLA is delivered

834
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 2: with chunkier plays and USC has just been pretty uneven,

835
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 2: and you know, a rivalry game is going to have

836
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 2: their attention, and USC has the ability with a win here. Basically,

837
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 2: it just guarantees them into the Pac twelve championship game

838
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 2: because Colorado against USC did not happen because of USC's issues.

839
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 2: You like that USC couldn't play in a game and

840
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:12,280
Speaker 2: it actually helped them. Yeah, but I do think UCLA

841
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 2: right here, maybe it's the karmic part of the universe

842
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 2: that USC could potentially keep Colorado out. Let's go with uh,

843
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 2: Let's go with the Bruins.

844
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: Here.

845
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 2: You see that they're now a Jordan slash Nike team.

846
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 1: I saw that. Yeah, I don't know if it means anything.

847
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:30,879
Speaker 2: It's a lot of press releases about it. I'm going

848
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 2: to UCLA here. I like the momentum here, and I

849
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 2: really like Demitric Felton against this sc front. I think

850
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:37,720
Speaker 2: it's a nice matchup.

851
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: I'm going to go USC. I'm go in USC to

852
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: go five and.

853
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 2: No, fair enough. We just do you have a lock?

854
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 2: Or we are we approaching your lock?

855
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: I'm going to come back to late action. I'm going

856
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: to come back to it. Other games in the late block.

857
00:46:56,239 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 1: We've got the Commonwealth Cup between Virginia and Virginia Tech.

858
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: Virginia is a two point road favorite. I really like

859
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: Virginia here, Dan, I really truly like Virginia here.

860
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 2: I think I do too.

861
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,959
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on with Virginia Tech right now,

862
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 1: but I'm going to go ahead and lock up Virginia

863
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 1: Lock of the week two points, a little less than

864
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 1: a field goal. Even if it's a close game, I'm

865
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 1: going Virginia minus the number. Why not.

866
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,439
Speaker 2: I saw a story that Hendon Hooker didn't get hurt

867
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 2: against Clemson Clemson Clumpsoul. They have their own thing. He

868
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:38,720
Speaker 2: had trouble with the cold weather.

869
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 1: Did you see that I did?

870
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 2: That doesn't rub me the right way. No, I'm going

871
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 2: who's here start a streak against Tech? How about that?

872
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 1: We've got Auburn a seven point road favorite at Mississippi State.

873
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,399
Speaker 2: I like State mostly so you can play my wally sound.

874
00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 2: But yeah, I like uh Will Rogers State Park and

875
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 2: Jayden Wally. A decent if not promising, if not good

876
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 2: defense at home against an Auburn team that just it

877
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 2: definitely does not inspire me on the road. So I'm

878
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 2: more in Mississippi State here to finish out their season

879
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 2: in relatives? What was there last week?

880
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: You convinced me? I'm switching it up? What's going on?

881
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 1: They have Miszoo Mississippi State here boom Oklahoma State at

882
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 1: six and three, a six point road favorite at Baylor.

883
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:37,240
Speaker 1: Baylor's two and six. I hate this matchup. I hate

884
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 1: everything about this matchup. I would never want to touch

885
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 1: this game with a ten foot pole. Kudos to our

886
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 1: good friends over at our Daily Bears and all the

887
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: Baylor fans that are out there who have to watch

888
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:52,839
Speaker 1: this game. This strikes me as a really ugly football game.

889
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: Just a lot of defense, a lot of punts, a

890
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: lot of mistakes. I you know, I don't really have

891
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: a great reason to take either team here, so I'm

892
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:02,919
Speaker 1: just gonna opt out.

893
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Baylor. Baylor be Kansas State, Will Howard

894
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 2: last second twenty to eighteen. Oklahoma they scored thirteen points.

895
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 2: At TCU they scored twenty two and a loss and

896
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 2: a losing effort, and now they're in Waco, another road game.

897
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 2: I just I don't like this Oklahoma State offense. They're

898
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 2: sort of decimated and beat up and just not the same.

899
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 2: And yeah, Baylor can win this game ugly nineteen seventeen Bears.

900
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 2: I'm going with your your wonderful nineteen score.

901
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 1: We've also got one other game here in the Big twelve.

902
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: TCU favored by three touchdowns at home over Louisiana Tech.

903
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 1: It seems like a big number. That's a lot of Tech.

904
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 2: But okay, yeah, short of Kansas, is TCU beat up

905
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 2: on anybody? Not really, No, not at all. I'm gonna

906
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 2: go Louisiana Tech here for no real good reason beyond

907
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 2: I've watched TCU's offense and I just I don't buy it.

908
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: Three West Coast games in the ten o'clock Eastern hour,

909
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: Cal two and a half point favored on the road

910
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: at Wazoo. We've got Stanford on the road at Oregon

911
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: State sagi. We've also got San Diego State on the

912
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,879
Speaker 1: road at BYU fifteen and a half point favorite. Any

913
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: of those games jump out at U Dan.

914
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 2: I like Cal by two and a half. Wazoo looked

915
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 2: ugly last week against SC and Cal's Cal's the best

916
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 2: one and three team in the country. Tile Let's be real, sure,

917
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 2: of course, no I like. I do like Cal's defense

918
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 2: enough against a freshman quarterback, Justin Wilcox. Scheming against an

919
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 2: inexperienced quarterback is now tastier after watching what Cal did

920
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 2: last week. Stanford at Oregon State, Tristan Jebbia, the starting

921
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 2: quarterback for the Beavers out for the year, just had

922
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 2: surgery after that late hit he took against Oregon late

923
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 2: in the game. Hit and it's SAGI. So Stanford is

924
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 2: built for the SAG. To me, I don't know what's

925
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 2: Jamar Jefferson status is. He didn't play last week because

926
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 2: of contact tracing, so Oregon State already looking thin. San

927
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 2: Diego State at BYU. If you believe in Brady Hoke

928
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 2: as a snow piercer, have you seen Snow Piercer?

929
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: I haven't.

930
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 2: No, Oh, Mike, do you know what the story behind

931
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 2: Snow Piercer is? Do you know what it is?

932
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:09,320
Speaker 1: I do know what it is. I've seen I've seen

933
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:10,879
Speaker 1: the trailer for it.

934
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,399
Speaker 2: Okay, so it was a movie, yeah, which is now

935
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 2: a TV show.

936
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 1: Kate and I have considered watching it, but we've never

937
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 1: pulled the trigger.

938
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 2: Movie's pretty good. It's dystopian. It's a train that never

939
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 2: stops and it's just sort of circling the globe during

940
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 2: a futuristic ice age, and I think the train, I

941
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 2: don't want to spoil it for everybody, but it's powered

942
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 2: in a pretty gross way. I'm now just picturing like

943
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 2: a shirtless Brady Hoak running through the snow. Actually, oh yeah,

944
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 2: I like by Here to bounce back against San Diego State,

945
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 2: but it's in the snow. It is in the snow

946
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 2: and Provo, so that worries me a little bit. But

947
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 2: I don't really have a good reason for San Diego

948
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,280
Speaker 2: State in altitude once again not looking all that good

949
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 2: against Colorado. So yeah, I'm going BYU here by I

950
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 2: don't know, eighteen to twenty three points.

951
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: We have an option here at the very end of

952
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 1: the show to switch it up to call an audible Okay,

953
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 1: not second to last Saturday, not whatever the hell.

954
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 2: You call you're gonna do? Howse your marriage segment?

955
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:12,320
Speaker 1: What about snow Piercer Saturday?

956
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 2: Ty? I prepped with that beautiful music though snow piers

957
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 2: a Saturday is not bad, right, and I'm giving You'll

958
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 2: give you a train.

959
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 1: Sound at gmail dot com or to any of our

960
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: social channels will let us know which Saturday it is

961
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: for you to choose your own adventures Saturday.

962
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 2: Who do you like Friday and or Thursday?

963
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: Friday? I like Marshall to bounce back in a big way.

964
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: I like ASU minus whatever against Arizona because I think

965
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 1: they're a mess. I am going to ride the train

966
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: and go Colorado over Utah Colorado minus two, and I'm

967
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 1: going to go San Jose State minus two and a half.

968
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 1: I guess I'm going to all favorites there on Friday,

969
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: and then Pitt's favored by seven on Thursday. I think

970
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: I'll take them as well over Georgia Tech. So give

971
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 1: me all favorites on the Friday and Thursday slate. I

972
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:08,359
Speaker 1: am taking wait Arizona State. Yes, they are favored, Pitt

973
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 1: is favored. I am going all favorites as well. I'm

974
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 1: going chalk there. I do like Pitt to finish out

975
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 1: the season in a strong way.

976
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 2: ASU. I don't love. Eleven points is a lot when

977
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 2: I don't really trust either one of these teams. But

978
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 2: I guess I don't have a good reason to take

979
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 2: Arizona with the backup quarterback Colorado. I tweeted this out.

980
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw this. It was right

981
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 2: before the show. Colorado. This is the word for word.

982
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 2: Colorado is secretly in an amazing position. Two one, go

983
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 2: five and oh two. Don't make a Pac TWEL championship

984
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 2: game because USC is there. Three win a bowl game. Four,

985
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 2: declare yourself national champion, and five taunt the College Football

986
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 2: Playoff National champion.

987
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:48,720
Speaker 1: Yeah.

988
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 2: That's all I want out of the rest of the season.

989
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:54,240
Speaker 2: Nothing like Oregon has nothing to do with entertaining games.

990
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:59,720
Speaker 2: Declared National Champion Carl Durell and Jeric Broussard more appropriate,

991
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 2: Jared Brossard. That's all I want. San Jose State Nevada

992
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 2: is a really good game. I'm not going to stay

993
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,399
Speaker 2: up for it because I'm ancient and that's a ten

994
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 2: pm Eastern kickoff, I believe. But that's a really good game.

995
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 2: Brent Brennan has done a fantastic job at San Jose State.

996
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 2: Hashtag Carson Strong has been good for Nevada. If you

997
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 2: are an insomniac or you're just on the West Coast,

998
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 2: consider watching this game. Exciting Mountain West action. I think

999
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 2: that's all I have. I think that's everything I have.

1000
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 2: Game wise, we do have breaking news if you want

1001
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 2: to hit the sound two two out, well is opting out,

1002
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:45,399
Speaker 2: opting out. So that's that's another thing. You know, we're

1003
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 2: going to see more and more of that. You know,

1004
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 2: we had Javian Hawkins do it for Louisville before. Not

1005
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 2: a good week for Scott Saderfield either. I don't know

1006
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 2: if you saw that.

1007
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a weird press conference that he gave.

1008
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, talking about not comparing player situations to coaching situation

1009
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 2: with regard to moving around and interviewing for jobs, because

1010
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 2: of course he interviewed after saying he didn't want to

1011
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 2: leave Louisville interviewed for the South Carolina job reportedly and

1012
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:11,280
Speaker 2: sort of said, well, it's different for players and coaches

1013
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 2: because coaches have families and this is a career and

1014
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 2: players just go somewhere and they don't have people, and

1015
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:22,720
Speaker 2: I guess players don't have careers. Yeah, very off look

1016
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 2: for Scott Saderfield when he seemed to be regarded pretty

1017
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:29,439
Speaker 2: positively up to that point. I don't know. So, yeah,

1018
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 2: there's that opt out and once again, I think we're

1019
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 2: going to see more and more of it. I saw

1020
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 2: that Ward Manual I said. This is according to Bruce Feldman,

1021
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 2: The Michigan Ad says, quote, conversations with Jim harr Jim

1022
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 2: Harbaugh regarding his contract situation will happen after the season ends.

1023
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 2: And just to clarify, Jim and I have always talked

1024
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:54,839
Speaker 2: at the end of the season. So there's that.

1025
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 1: That's all I got. Thank you to everyone out there

1026
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:02,280
Speaker 1: for joining us on this week fifteen preview. Don't forget

1027
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Speaker 1: do our UFO show. Dan mm hmmm, a little bit

1029
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Speaker 1: with you.

1036
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Speaker 2: And just to close out the show, Tie, if you'll

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1040
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Speaker 1: for that guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein,

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