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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off right now, everybody.

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Speaker 2: We're joined by our friend Jesse Kelly. He is nationally

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Speaker 2: syndicated by Premier Networks on The Jesse Kelly Show comes

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Speaker 2: on after our friend Sean Hannity in much of the country.

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Speaker 2: So Jesse is with us now. He's also the author

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Speaker 2: of a new book which we're excited about, the Anti

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Speaker 2: Communist Manifesto. Jesse, thanks so much for being here.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: As you know, I get people.

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Speaker 2: Every time I say the word comy on this show,

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Speaker 2: someone emails me, emails me to say keep calling them

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Speaker 2: that because that's.

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Speaker 3: What they are. Well, you're welcome for being here, Buck

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Speaker 3: and Clay. I know it's not every day you get

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Speaker 3: a world famous author on the show. I know this

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Speaker 3: is the biggest show in the country, but we world

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Speaker 3: famous authors. We're just we're a special breed. We look

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Speaker 3: at the world differently and it look I know it's

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Speaker 3: an honor for you, So I'm happy. I'm macket I

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Speaker 3: could do this.

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Speaker 2: Your humility and Clay's humility is the hulk versus the

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Speaker 2: thing I have to say, you guys are both lacking.

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Speaker 3: In confidence at all times.

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Speaker 4: It would be a great confidence off between Jesse and I.

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Speaker 4: So here's a good question for Jesse on the common

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Speaker 4: soft what are you absolutely awful at?

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Speaker 3: Awful at anything, artistic, anything? Now, to be fair, I'm

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Speaker 3: white trash. So we grew up to Kelly's. We are

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Speaker 3: a construction family from Ohio, the Roust Belt, total construction family.

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Speaker 3: No one in the family, and I mean nobody. Nobody

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Speaker 3: can sing, nobody can dance, nobody can draw, nobody can

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Speaker 3: play an instrument. There's no creativity there at all.

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Speaker 1: Other than the world famous book that you're releasing.

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Speaker 3: Well, other than being a will famous author. Obviously that's

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Speaker 3: just different. Now I'm more like Shakespeare.

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Speaker 2: And this is a little bit disappointing because we figured,

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Speaker 2: since Hunter Biden can sell his finger paintings for fifty

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Speaker 2: k each, you know you probably could pick up some

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Speaker 2: maybe be a sculptor or something. But speaking of Biden

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Speaker 2: and politics, and that's the smoothest transition anyone's ever heard.

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Speaker 2: What did you think about what we saw last night

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Speaker 2: with Trump up on stage? Caitlyn Collins, formerly of The

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Speaker 2: Daily Caller, now CNN's Next it, lady, what do you think.

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Speaker 3: I'm of two minds about it.

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Speaker 5: One.

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Speaker 3: I think CNN did Caitlyn Collins wrong. I'm a big

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Speaker 3: believer that you set your employees up for success. Caitlyn

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Speaker 3: Collins is like an adorable little puppy. She's way too

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Speaker 3: stupid and meek to stand on stage with Trump. It

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Speaker 3: was not just dominated. Trump, of course, is going to

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Speaker 3: dominate that little mouse.

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Speaker 2: It was like putting a Pomeranian in with a grizzly bear,

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Speaker 2: which is just not fair to the Pomeranian.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't I'm the only no. I hate Caitlyn Collins.

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Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong. I hate CNN. I legit felt

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Speaker 3: bad for that chick has no chance against a dominant

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Speaker 3: personality like Trump, and he's got ten times the IQ

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Speaker 3: she does. So like.

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Speaker 4: I like Caitlyn other than the fact that she's an

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Speaker 4: Alabama fan and uh and again to Bucks points, she

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Speaker 4: used to work at the Daily Caller. Here is what

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Speaker 4: I think. The number one story is that almost nobody's

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Speaker 4: talking about the Trump team negotiated CNN into the basement.

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Speaker 4: CNN somehow agreed, think about this. As soon as this started,

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Speaker 4: Trump came out to a standing ovation it was like

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Speaker 4: they allowed him. If you're a comic, you want to

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Speaker 4: go out in front of a crowd that already likes you,

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Speaker 4: because even if you're not on your a game, they

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Speaker 4: like your jokes, they're gonna respond favorably to you. They

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Speaker 4: put Caitlin Collins into a situation where she was the

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Speaker 4: only person who didn't like Trump in that entire building,

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Speaker 4: probably other than the cameramen. And then they allowed every

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Speaker 4: response that he gave. He got like a standing ovation.

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Speaker 4: People laughed, and it made it such an optical disaster

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Speaker 4: for CNN that that's why, guys, I think they cut

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Speaker 4: it short. Oh, because I think they were like, oh

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Speaker 4: my goodness, we got negotiated into the basement here, and

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Speaker 4: whoever at Trump's team said yeah, we'll do CNN, but

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Speaker 4: we want to do it with a town hall. We

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Speaker 4: wanted to be Trump voters and undecided voters and everybody

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Speaker 4: in that room. When he got a standing ovation walking in,

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Speaker 4: I was like, Oh, this is going to be something.

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Speaker 4: And I knew that when AOC is sending out tweets

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Look, they totally set her up for failure, and

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Speaker 3: I think his team had to have negotiated because you

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Speaker 3: pointed out the audience. They had to have negotiated some

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Speaker 3: kind of deal on the audience because you know, CNN

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Speaker 3: would have loaded up that audience with a bunch of

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Speaker 3: communists in there, yes, if they could. Instead they put

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Speaker 3: a bunch of normal people in there. So CNN wants

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Speaker 3: to talk about January sixth, Trump wants to talk about

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Speaker 3: securing the border. But that's what normal people want to

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Speaker 3: talk about. But at the same time, I set him

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Speaker 3: up two minds. My other mind is, Okay, it's nice.

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Speaker 3: It was enjoyable. It's always enjoyable to watch Trump beat

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Speaker 3: up on journalists. It doesn't matter though it's not going

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Speaker 3: to be important for the election itself. We have to

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Speaker 3: ballot harvest, we have to get out the vote. We

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Speaker 3: have to do all the blocking and tackling that's not sexy.

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Speaker 3: The right has got to wake up and realize that's

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Speaker 3: where the election will be won or lost. We can

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Speaker 3: do a new Town hall and beat the crap out

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Speaker 3: of CNN every day between now an election day, and

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Speaker 3: we're going to lose if the RNC continues to ignore

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Speaker 3: get out the vote efforts and ballot harvesting efforts. They're

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Speaker 3: playing chess and we're playing checkers, so we can all

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Speaker 3: pat ourselves on the back today. Is it going to

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Speaker 3: win us? See election?

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Speaker 6: Now?

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Speaker 2: You know, I've seen a few people and talk to

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Speaker 2: a few people Jesse who work in that realm our

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Speaker 2: mutual buddy ned Ryan for example, Molly Hemingway, who wrote

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Speaker 2: a great book Rigged on the Election, really understands how

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Speaker 2: it was rigged and what the machinery was that was

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Speaker 2: of them have taken whether on Twitter or on podcasts,

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Speaker 2: that I've spoken to them on the position that it

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Speaker 2: doesn't matter who the Republican nominee is at this point.

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Speaker 2: If that machinery of getting the votes where we need

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Speaker 2: them when we need them isn't fixed, we are going

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Speaker 2: to lose the presidency in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: What do you make of that? I make of it

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Speaker 3: that it's the absolute truth. People will on our side,

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Speaker 3: and I understand this. They will look at like the

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty election, and they'll look at Donald Trump packing stadiums,

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Speaker 3: and they'll make fun of Joe Biden because he poops

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Speaker 3: in his pants in front of the Pope, and because

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Speaker 3: he couldn't get ten people in a room and he

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Speaker 3: And they'll say this is ridiculous. And they'll look at

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Speaker 3: that vegetable who just got elected senator out of Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 3: not ridiculous. It's actually very easily explained. They have developed

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Speaker 3: a professional ballot harvesting operation in the Democratic Party where

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Speaker 3: they could put up another vegetable, they could actually put

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Speaker 3: they will chase down the ballots to bring in the

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Speaker 3: votes they need to have that person elected. But the

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Speaker 3: right still thinks it's about town halls, and it's about issues,

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Speaker 3: and it's about candidate quality, and it's about all these

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Speaker 3: things because the right wants sexy. The right ones the

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Speaker 3: triple reverse half back pass for the dutchdown lookout fast

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Speaker 3: the receiver is and Democrats understand it about the fat

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Speaker 3: left tackle, and it's about tackling. It's about blocking and tackling.

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Speaker 3: They've mastered blocking and tackling. We're fifty years behind. Either

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Speaker 4: Of blocking and tackling. Michigan's a lot better now at

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Speaker 4: time I saw you was in Columbus, Ohio. But Buck

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Speaker 4: obviously is not all in on the sports universe. But

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Speaker 4: you see this on your show too, and we were

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Speaker 4: just talking about it in the first hour. Every time

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Speaker 4: you say something positive about Trump, the DeSantis people are upset.

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Speaker 4: Every time you say something positive about DeSantis, the Trump

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Speaker 4: people are upset. And I've analogized it in many ways

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Speaker 4: to sports, where when you talk about a big rivalry

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Speaker 4: Michigan Ohio State, for instance, every team is so tribal

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Speaker 4: and committed to their side that anything other than your

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Speaker 4: team is the greatest that's ever existed in the history of.

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Speaker 1: Mankind is wrong.

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Speaker 4: And I'll point out throw myself under the bus here

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Speaker 4: that I said put every dollar you have on Ohio

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Speaker 4: I saw you and your family there.

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Speaker 1: But how much do you see this already?

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Speaker 4: Even though DeSantis hasn't officially announced this looming battle between

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Speaker 4: the Trump and DeSantis team, because whether it's vivid Ramaswami,

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Speaker 4: I think it's acknowledged by the Trump people and the

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Speaker 4: DeSantis people that those guys or girls have virtually no

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Speaker 3: They want to be VP obviously. Yeah, I don't worry

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Speaker 3: about the two also rans that Vivie and NICKI Hey,

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Speaker 3: As far as people getting upset when you say something

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Speaker 3: if people get upset. People need to stop waving pom

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Speaker 3: poms for human beings, for men. I don't wave Trump's

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Speaker 3: pom poms. I don't wave Desantus pom poms because they're

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Speaker 3: all just rental cars to me. They're all just need

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Speaker 3: and then I'm dropping them off back at the rental

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Speaker 3: card place. Yeah. They're gonna beat the crap out of

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Speaker 3: each other in the primary, and they should Why because

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Speaker 3: we need better candidates. Trump needs to be better than

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Speaker 3: he is. DeSantis needs to be better than he is.

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Speaker 3: And the only way to go. Take it back to sports.

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Speaker 3: The only way you get better is frigging tryouts. Get

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Speaker 3: out there and hammer each other into the ground, because

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Speaker 3: you're going to take on a Democrat machine that's going

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Speaker 3: to carve you up like a Thanksgiving turkey unless you're

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Speaker 3: ready for it the way they've done before. So if

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Speaker 3: people get upset about it, I understand politics gets emotional,

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Speaker 3: Well that's too bad. So sad politics is a contact sport.

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Speaker 3: Go beat each other up and stop falling in love

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Speaker 3: with politicians. None of these people give a crap about you,

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Speaker 3: So use them all like a rental car and then

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Speaker 3: drop them off when you're done and forget about them.

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Speaker 2: Next month, your book's coming out, Jesse, the Anti Communist Manifesto,

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Speaker 2: you'll be joining us here on the show to talk

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Speaker 2: more in detail about it. But you know one thing

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Speaker 2: that I think is interesting is it used to be

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Speaker 2: whenever he would use.

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Speaker 3: The term socialist, it's it's.

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Speaker 2: Not really a socialist because the means of production right,

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Speaker 2: And you get even more of that with calling the left.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure communists they say.

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Speaker 1: Oh, we're not true pure Marxists.

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Speaker 2: Why why do we need to think of the other

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Speaker 2: side as I call them commedies. You're talking about the

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Speaker 2: anti communist manifesto your book. Why do you need to

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Speaker 3: I like you Clay. We're enemies now, I'll take it.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all

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Speaker 4: She had some advice for bud Light that I think

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Speaker 5: Listen from a marketing's perspective, I think it's very clear

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Speaker 4: She's gee, she's funny, She's been on the show a lot.

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Speaker 6: We have a president who's a waller's not doing his job,

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Speaker 2: He is a senior reporter and columnist at townhall dot com.

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Speaker 2: He is down in Texas Neil Passo area, right along

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Speaker 7: It's ongoing right now. There's a giant lion of people.

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Speaker 4: two is not going to exist. And the cut we

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Speaker 4: just played of Ted Cruz citing numbers over ten thousand,

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Speaker 4: the biggest, according to Bill Malugin that he's ever seen.

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Speaker 4: And you'll know Bill Malugin from Fox News who regularly

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Speaker 4: covers the border. I don't think there's even a comprehension

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Speaker 4: of how bad things are gonna get on Friday, because,

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Speaker 4: as we've talked about, Buck, the conversations spread rapidly in

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Speaker 4: the communities that are contemplating coming across the border. And

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Speaker 4: we know this because as soon as Joe Biden became president,

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Speaker 4: you started seeing people come across the border and saying

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Speaker 4: we're coming. Because Joe Biden wants us to come. And

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Speaker 4: then Kamala Harris tried to travel down somewhere in Latin America,

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Speaker 4: I don't remember exactly where she went, and said, no,

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Speaker 4: we don't want you to come. The borders are has

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Speaker 4: not done a very good job zarring at the border,

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Speaker 4: as Kamala Harris might describe her job, and as a result,

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Speaker 4: we're at ten thousand now we might be twenty thirty

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Speaker 4: thousand people. We're going to see a crisis the likes

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Speaker 4: of which we have never seen at our southern border

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Speaker 4: in any of our lives.

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Speaker 2: And the Biden administration is going to be telling everybody

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Speaker 2: they're doing everything possible to try and deal with this.

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Speaker 2: But understand, their version of deal with it means additional

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Speaker 2: processing resources for the illegals. It does not mean they're

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Speaker 2: looking to lock down the border and prevent all illegal entry.

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Speaker 3: Quite the contrary. All right, Julio roach to us back

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Speaker 3: with us.

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Speaker 2: He is in the field on the border right now,

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Speaker 2: and he's with town Hall dot com. Uh, Julio, all right,

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Speaker 2: you were telling us what are you seeing down there?

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Speaker 2: How many people are ready to swarm into the US

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Speaker 2: as you look at it right now.

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Speaker 7: So there's a line, about six hundred people that are

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Speaker 7: waiting to be let in by bred of a troll

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Speaker 7: to be processed. Now, it's a little interesting because the

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Speaker 7: influx is partly because how forty two is ending, but

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Speaker 7: they want to come into United States while it's still

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Speaker 7: in effect. So you have those people that are taking

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Speaker 7: the chance to not be subjected to Title eight. But

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Speaker 7: as I you telling earlier, yes, DHS as Tarry Marcus

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Speaker 7: is saying that we're going to put these people under

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Speaker 7: quote unquote removal proceedings. But that's just government speaker, you know,

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Speaker 7: political speak for saying we're going to put these people

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Speaker 7: or system. And a lot of the people that are

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Speaker 7: getting released right now, they're not getting court dates until

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Speaker 7: three or four five years of Yeah, it's.

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Speaker 4: Pretty crazy to think about, Julio, and you're talking about

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Speaker 4: Title forty two as we were ending in ten hours basically, Julio. Also,

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Speaker 4: this is seasonal right, this is the time of year

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Speaker 4: when there's typically a surge. Anyway, do we have any

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Speaker 4: sense for how bad it's truly going to get because

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Speaker 4: a lot of people are still making their way towards

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Speaker 4: the border as we speak right now.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so it's not too cold in El Paso gets

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Speaker 7: pretty cold and it's obviously not too hot, and so

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Speaker 7: I mean, I could tell you there's a photographer that

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Speaker 7: I know who is with the Daily Mail. There there's

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Speaker 7: a train that runs north into El Paso and a

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Speaker 7: lot of migrants use that train, and he was on

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Speaker 7: it yesterday and there was all these people that are

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Speaker 7: currently now making their way to Quatas so that they

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Speaker 7: can enter into El Paso after Title for two is

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Speaker 7: officially gone. So there is the surge of migrants that

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Speaker 7: have been waiting in a Quatas for months that are

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Speaker 7: crossing over right now, and right behind them are going

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Speaker 7: to be even more people that are making their way

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Speaker 7: through Mexico.

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Speaker 2: Hulu, what are border patrol officers telling you about their

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Speaker 2: expectations for their ability to deal with this and the

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Speaker 2: resource uh issues that are going to come up from it.

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Speaker 7: Basically, they what they've always been saying is that they

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Speaker 7: are nothing more than Walmart readers. They're they're they're ubers

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Speaker 7: for for these illegal immigrants once they event once they crossed,

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Speaker 7: and so again they by the Bye administration is saying

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Speaker 7: like it's saying that after Tiber forty too, there's going

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Speaker 7: to be more legally cross but as we've already seen,

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Speaker 7: they they they're going to give them phone to check

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Speaker 7: in then to try to track them. But that that,

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Speaker 7: you know, that's a hit or miss, because that's if

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Speaker 7: they want to go through the process. Because a lot

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Speaker 7: of these people they just want jobs. They want better

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Speaker 7: paying jobs and working illegally. Uh you know under the

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Speaker 7: table there, you know, the incentive to do that is

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Speaker 7: very high because you know, the money that they make

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Speaker 7: through those types of jobs is still a lot better

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Speaker 7: than what they make in their home country. So a

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Speaker 7: lot of them are content with just not going through

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Speaker 7: the asylum process, even though they're claiming asylum once they enter,

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Speaker 7: once they cross over into the United States, they just

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Speaker 7: want to be processed so they can get rulease.

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Speaker 2: Julio, keep us in the loop for what you see

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Speaker 2: down there, Julio rososoftwent Hall dot com. Appreciate you, sir,

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Speaker 2: Thanks for the reporting.

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Speaker 7: Yep, thank you. Sorry about earlier.

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Speaker 4: to talk with the Attorney General of Texas to close

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Speaker 4: out the well. Twoint thirty to close out the final

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Speaker 4: hour of Thursday, and Buck, I was gonna tell you,

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Speaker 4: I want to give It's rare that I do this,

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Speaker 4: but I'm out tomorrow because my wife, Laura is going

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Speaker 4: to graduate from law school twenty two years after we

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Speaker 4: started law school. I met her at Vanderbilt Law School

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Speaker 4: recruiting co ed softball players. We had a really good

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Speaker 4: looking team, as you might imagine. That's legitimately how we met.

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Speaker 4: She finished her first year of law school, the kids

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Speaker 4: all got into school, so the fifteen to twelve and

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Speaker 4: the eight year olds were all off to school. She

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Speaker 4: decided she wanted to go back and finish law school.

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Speaker 4: So twenty two years after we entered law school in

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Speaker 4: two thousand and one, she will officially graduate as a

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Speaker 4: mother of three tomorrow at Vanderbilt University Law School. And

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Speaker 4: so I am out tomorrow to go to a graduation

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Speaker 4: a generation after my own graduation. And I just want

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Speaker 4: to give props to my wife for going back and

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Speaker 4: finishing finishing law school after having three kids.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, congratulations to Laura Travis. And I can tell any

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Speaker 2: other lawyer out there you would not want to be.

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Speaker 3: Across from her in a courtroom. I'm just gonna say it.

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Speaker 4: She's way tougher than me. Lady, way tougher than me.

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Speaker 4: I would much rather be across the table from me

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Speaker 4: than from her. But but that is pretty cool. I

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Speaker 4: know a lot of people out there, you know, you

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Speaker 4: have kids, and once you get him into school and

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Speaker 4: feel like some normalcy of life can return, notwithstanding what

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Speaker 4: happened with COVID when I know so many moms and

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Speaker 4: dads out there totally had their world up ended. But

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Speaker 4: but this is pretty cool. So that's where I'll be tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: You'll have the ship to close out, don't don't you

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Speaker 4: know run wild part? I know you got Jack Karr

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Speaker 4: on which the last time we saw him was out

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Speaker 4: in Park City, which is where he lives, and.

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Speaker 2: You know, he was kind of a big deal, kind

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Speaker 2: of a big deal, kind of strutting down Main Street

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Speaker 2: as his hit show on Amazon, The Terminal List, had

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Speaker 2: already got in its numbers and was crushing it. And

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Speaker 2: I believe they've already renewed that's an other series, another

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Speaker 2: season of The Terminal List with Chris Pratt. I got

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Speaker 2: to say, for a lot of guys out there, if

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Speaker 2: you're writing, if you're writing a thriller, you know, military

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Speaker 2: action novel. Having Chris Pratt as the lead in your

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Speaker 2: Amazon series is certainly a dream come true. I think

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Speaker 2: that would be if like, if I had to pick,

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Speaker 2: I'd be like, I think I'd probably want Chris Pratt.

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Speaker 2: Although John Krasinsky, I gotta say he's probably a lib.

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Speaker 2: They're all well, Chris Pratt's not a huge lib. Chris

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Speaker 2: Pratt talks about God and Jesus and Christianity and faith.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what Krazinsky's like. He was good in

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Speaker 2: Thirteen Hours though, which was also a very good watch.

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Speaker 2: But we will have Jack Carr on tomorrow. We'll talk

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Speaker 2: to him about a little bit about Hollywood, and it's

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Speaker 2: funny Hollywood is it's sort of like Wall Street. Hollywood's

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Speaker 2: not even really the thing that it was anymore. We

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Speaker 2: still think of it as the entertainment industry. But Amazon, Netflix,

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Speaker 2: Disney plus those are now where the shows, the really

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Speaker 2: big budget show is being made.

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Speaker 3: But as we're seeing, the streaming.

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Speaker 1: Business is not a good business, not.

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Speaker 2: An easy business for even the biggest multinational conglomerates to

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Speaker 2: be in.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it.

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say I don't think it helped Disney

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Speaker 2: plus the whole Mandalorian thing.

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Speaker 3: Remember where they.

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Speaker 2: Got that's you know. And also what's is the guy

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Speaker 2: the lead guy that is very woke, which is annoying always.

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Speaker 2: I can't remember his name.

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Speaker 3: Hydro Pascal.

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Speaker 4: They have Buck And this is a big media ecosystem story.

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Speaker 4: The cable and satellite bundle was the greatest media business

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Speaker 4: that had ever been created in the history of media.

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Speaker 4: If you were on the cable and satellite bundle, your

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Speaker 4: channel made money handover fist in every year you got

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Speaker 4: a raise, and a lot of you out there listening

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Speaker 4: to what I'm talking about. Around twoenty twelve, we peaked

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Speaker 4: at over one hundred million cable in satellite households. Now

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Speaker 4: it's down to seventy five. It's declining rapidly from there.

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Speaker 4: And only Netflix has made any money from streaming so far.

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Speaker 4: Disney has lost eleven billion dollars. And if you're a

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Speaker 4: Disney shareholder, I'm sorry. Stock is down nine dollars today.

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Speaker 4: It basically hasn't moved in a decade. That is, if

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Speaker 4: you bought Disney stock a decade ago, it's kind of

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Speaker 4: set there. And this streaming business is replacing the cable

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Speaker 4: in satellite business, and so far, almost no one in

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Speaker 4: the traditional media business is making any money. They're losing money,

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Speaker 4: hand over fist.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of Disney, do you remember Soviet Mary Poppins, Yes,

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Speaker 2: Nina Jankowitz. The Biden administrations would be DHS Disinformation Governance

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Speaker 2: Board member or the disinformations are I call her Soviet

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Speaker 2: Mary Poppins because she liked to sing. We saw the

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Speaker 2: videos and the whole notion of disinformation as practiced by

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Speaker 2: the Biden regime. Social media in collusion with the Democrat

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Speaker 2: Party is just about censorship, deplatforming, and silencing conservative or

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Speaker 2: regime challenging voices. But klay Soviet Mary Poppins, I say

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Speaker 2: it again?

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Speaker 3: Is suing? Is suing?

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Speaker 2: Fox News? Yeah, so she's now decided to lawyer up

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Speaker 2: and they're saying. Over the course of eight months, Fox

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Speaker 2: talked about Jankowitz more than three three hundred times across

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Speaker 2: its broadcast and online publications. Fox employee hosts and commentators

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Speaker 2: derided and lied about jack Witz on repeat, and continue

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Speaker 2: to do so even today. I don't know, man, did

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Speaker 2: you call her Soviet Mary Poppins on Fox? I might have,

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Speaker 2: I don't remember now, but I don't work for Fox.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, well, you're in more danger though, because at

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Speaker 4: least I'm in dimnified in theory, you might get sued

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Speaker 4: individually for calling her Soviet Mary Poppins. In all honesty,

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Speaker 4: that's I'm putting my lawyer hat on.

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Speaker 1: Now, that's certainly fair game, right.

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Speaker 4: Ridicule satire of political opposition or political figures in general

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Speaker 4: is actually the foundation of our First Amendment.

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Speaker 1: I don't think she's going to have any success there.

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Speaker 4: But what this is representative of is when Fox News,

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Speaker 4: the larger Fox corporate entity, settled with Dominion, there are

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Speaker 4: gonna be a lot of lawyers out there beating the

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Speaker 4: bushes trying to find people that they think would have

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Speaker 4: a clue that could make it past a summary judgment

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Speaker 4: motion to try and get some form of settlement out

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Speaker 4: of Fox. Now, I suspect that Fox will hold a

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Speaker 4: pretty strong line against individuals because just take it outside

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Speaker 4: of Soviet Mary Poppins. Here, if you can't talk about

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Speaker 4: political figures in news coverage.

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Speaker 3: The First Amendment is done.

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Speaker 4: And if you can't ridicule them and their ideas and

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Speaker 4: their perspectives, by the way, on both sides, then how

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Speaker 4: do you have a robust marketplace of ideas in any way.

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Speaker 2: Well, this is why you have to have a fair

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Speaker 2: use doctrine. For example, this is why we can play

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Speaker 2: clips of other shows within reason on this show and

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Speaker 2: make fun of them, like we can play clips of

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Speaker 2: the View to say, listen to the stupid thing they said,

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Speaker 2: because otherwise how could you have a real conversation and

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Speaker 2: bring evidence forward about what's being said in politics today.

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Speaker 2: But there are people that are trying to abuse the

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Speaker 2: law right now in a number of fronts. One of them,

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Speaker 2: obviously the big one is going after Donald Trump. But

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Speaker 2: even on this, I think you're going to see a

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Speaker 2: lot more of this. You're going to see lawsuits at

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Speaker 2: some level. What we've seen now is the criminalization of

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Speaker 2: the wrong politics and individual form with Donald Trump bringing

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Speaker 2: all these different I believe there are multiple criminal indictments

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Speaker 2: coming against Trump. I've said it here. I think you

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Speaker 2: and I agree on this. That's right, there's multiple indictments coming.

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Speaker 2: But also the ability now for people to sue news

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Speaker 2: organizations and individuals for matters of political difference based upon

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Speaker 2: whether it is disinformation, Yeah, which is a very dangerous.

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Speaker 2: This is why I did not I thought the whole

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Speaker 2: thing with Fox, Yeah, it was bad from the get

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Speaker 2: go the lawsuits and what are represented, but now going forward,

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Speaker 2: there will be law there to silence in this country.

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Speaker 2: And this is going to be a real challenge for

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Speaker 2: those who want to try to talk about issues that

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Speaker 2: really are difficult. For the regime that issues that they

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Speaker 2: don't want to defend, they're just going to try to

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Speaker 2: sue you into submission.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's the whole concept of words as violence.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Joy Behar is, in my opinion, the dumbest

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Speaker 4: person on daily television in America. That's my opinion.

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Speaker 1: Joy Behart could try to sue much.

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Speaker 2: She's got a soap clay into poverty.

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Speaker 4: She could try to sue me, but that's part of

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Speaker 4: the universe of acceptable discourse. By the way, she could

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Speaker 4: go on the view and say, I'm the dumbest person

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Speaker 4: that she's ever heard on radio in history, and that's

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Speaker 4: her right.

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Speaker 2: What if she sued you and she just wanted a

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Speaker 2: really hardfelt apology play.

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Speaker 1: She would not get it.

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Speaker 4: I didn't think, so I'll have I'll challenge her to

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Speaker 4: a spelling bee. If she could beat me in a

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Speaker 4: spelling bee, then I would apologize to Joy Behart for

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Speaker 4: calling her the dumbest person in America because on daily media,

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Speaker 4: because I think if she could do that, that would

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Speaker 4: be some evidence that she's not. But I think I

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Speaker 4: would smoke her in a spelling bee.

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Speaker 3: I would put money on