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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.

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Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your

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Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey

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Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and

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Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the

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Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in

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Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or

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Speaker 1: scripted as well. Rain drops on today's episode of Reality

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Speaker 1: with the King. This is a special one because look,

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Speaker 1: I know you'll like to say Carlos loves all the girls,

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Speaker 1: and I do. However, no shade, there's only a select

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Speaker 1: few that are truly my day ones, my ogs, my

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Speaker 1: real life friends who we check up on each other

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Speaker 1: where we don't need anything from each other. We have

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Speaker 1: this relationship to where it's it's a chemistry, okay, But

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Speaker 1: this woman is my day one. And it's funny because

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Speaker 1: we talk all the time. And I think I was like,

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Speaker 1: come on, block, I never even thought about it, but listen,

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Speaker 1: you guys have been asking for it, and I finally

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Speaker 1: asked my girl. She said yes, immediately give it up

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Speaker 1: from my girl the I con that she is okay,

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Speaker 1: older remy MEMI bows.

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Speaker 2: We did it that thank you for having me?

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Speaker 1: Isn't it funny?

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Speaker 2: Huh?

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Speaker 1: I had this podcast for three years?

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Speaker 2: Three years? Three years. Okay, I'm gonna wait my turn.

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Speaker 2: Here we are.

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Speaker 1: Me me. It's so funny because you listen, we're really

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Speaker 1: friends and it's not like we haven't spoken it three years.

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Speaker 1: We talk all the time. But it's so funny because

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Speaker 1: I'm like, she should come my podcast because I don't.

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Speaker 2: I was watching all the girls. I said, oh, oh okay,

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Speaker 2: I said, I much just see how long?

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Speaker 1: But here we are, Here we are, and that all

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Speaker 1: that matters. Stunning beauty that you are. You seem to

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Speaker 1: be in a very happy, calm play so like, but

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Speaker 1: you know you know how to pop off.

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Speaker 2: Everybody knows how to pop no.

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Speaker 1: Bitch, No one cusses like you, motherfucker. Fuck you, bitch.

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Speaker 1: I got time for that whole shit bit, you fighting

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Speaker 1: ears and shit. But no. The thing is you have

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Speaker 1: this calming spirit. So the first thing I'm going to

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Speaker 1: ask you is like, how are you doing today today?

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Speaker 2: I am fantastic And I'm not just saying that because

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Speaker 2: I'm on your podcast. Like spiritually, I'm good. Mentally, I'm good. Physically,

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Speaker 2: I'm good, emotionally I'm good. So and I'm checked to

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Speaker 2: have checked all the boxes and I'm just good overall

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Speaker 2: all around. And to me, that's fantastic.

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Speaker 1: Now it is, and I want the audience to know.

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Speaker 1: It radiates even in person. I'm pretty sure it's going

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Speaker 1: to radiate on cameras. The watching is. It could be

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Speaker 1: the aur, it could be your new skin, Caroline, Honey.

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Speaker 2: That's a big part of why I'm just yeah, I'm

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Speaker 2: so happy. I'm so happy. I'm so excited, like this

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Speaker 2: is my baby.

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Speaker 1: So talk to me about this, Okay.

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Speaker 2: So let me just tell you where this whole thing came.

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Speaker 1: Please.

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Speaker 2: Eva and I have very sensitive skin. Eggsama flare ups

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Speaker 2: in the wintertime, you know, dry irritated, and a lot

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Speaker 2: of products that we were using irritated our skin burned.

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Speaker 2: You know, it was just irritating. And I'm a product whore.

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you. I have every anything you can

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Speaker 2: think of. My cabinet looks like a CDs literately, whatever

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Speaker 2: you can think of, I got it. I want to

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Speaker 2: try it. Well, let me try this, Let me try that.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna try it girl. So, and I've tried so

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Speaker 2: many things, and a friend of mine said, you keep

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Speaker 2: trying all this stuff. Why don't you do your own thing?

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Speaker 2: And I love skincare, I love you know, and so

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Speaker 2: I said, okay, And that's where the idea came from

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Speaker 2: and started. And then I just started doing the research

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Speaker 2: and right now I have just three products.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what all the three products? Girl? Because I got

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Speaker 1: the exclusive stuff that she got just for me. Okay.

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Speaker 1: So we got face wash.

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Speaker 2: Face wash, okay, and we have toner Toner.

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Speaker 1: I'm a toner boy. Good. I love a lot of

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Speaker 1: people don't understand toner after you like moisturiz and exfoliate.

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Speaker 1: That's good. Okay. So that's two out of the three.

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Speaker 1: And the third one.

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Speaker 2: Bostr Riiser, which is the shit. Yes, yes, that's going

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Speaker 2: to give you that glow. It's gonna all the good stuff, yes. So.

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Speaker 2: And my products are natural, I mean, alo rosewater, cucumber,

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Speaker 2: all of the good stuff. It's got in there. It's

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Speaker 2: got glistering in it. The face wash is so gentle.

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Speaker 2: It feels like silk when you're putting it on. It

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Speaker 2: does literally, it's it's so silky when you put it

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Speaker 2: on and then it's going to hydrate you. It's I

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Speaker 2: just can't even say enough about it. I just want

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Speaker 2: you to try.

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Speaker 1: It, ok, and I'm gonna try it. And the thing

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Speaker 1: is for the audience to try. Where can they buy

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Speaker 1: this today today?

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Speaker 2: If if you want to buy the product, it's right

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Speaker 2: on my website OLU Raimiskin dot com. Oh l you

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Speaker 2: are e m I s k I N dot com.

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Speaker 2: I kept the packaging very simple, even even from the

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Speaker 2: box to the packaging itself. It's very clean. The aesthetic

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Speaker 2: is clean and simple.

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Speaker 1: Give it like one hotel.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I kept I kept my men you know in mind,

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Speaker 2: I didn't want something too gaudy that was sitting on

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Speaker 2: your calendar or whatever that was gonna be. Its fragrance

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Speaker 2: free wherever, free, no cruelty to animals. It's light. It's

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Speaker 2: a great product. Calos. I can't wait for you to try.

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Speaker 1: I know, I'm so proud of you. And the thing

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Speaker 1: is this, you have beautiful skin. I know your age,

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Speaker 1: but do you want the world to know because at

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Speaker 1: your age the skin and scanning and obviously it has

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Speaker 1: a lot to do with the stuff you've been doing

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Speaker 1: with this too. Yes, let them know how old you are.

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Speaker 2: I just had my fifty fourth birthday in January.

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Speaker 1: She is fifty four years old. Yes, yes, it has

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Speaker 2: And my makeup artist is here today shout out to

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Speaker 2: tie the glam kids. And when we got started doing makeup,

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Speaker 2: he was like, Okay, tell me what you like, and

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Speaker 2: I'm like, light as possible. Don't slept they have you

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Speaker 2: I don't like it. I want you to go light.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, no, pop my eye, pop my live. I

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Speaker 2: don't want foundation. I don't wear foundation.

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Speaker 1: So so what do you have on now?

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Speaker 2: No foundation?

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Speaker 1: Maybe you look good. You know. Listen, we go way,

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Speaker 1: first met, I do want to go back a little

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Speaker 1: bit further in terms of your childhood, because I mean,

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Speaker 2: Yes, So I went from normal upbringing, or what I

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Speaker 2: thought was very normal. My mother was introduced to scientology

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Speaker 2: big blue building, and my life has never been the same.

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Speaker 2: Like literally, I was there until I was thirteen when

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Speaker 2: they kicked me out, Well they kicked you out. They

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Speaker 2: sign the billion year contract to work for them in

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Speaker 2: their organization.

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Speaker 1: The billionaire contract, billion year contract, billion years, a billion years.

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Speaker 2: That was their contract that they presented to the members

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Speaker 2: that are in their organization, and they wanted me to

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Speaker 2: sign it, and I was like, absolutely not.

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Speaker 1: Well what does that entail?

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Speaker 2: You're there for life, so what intails you don't leave.

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Speaker 2: They believe in reincarnation. So when you die, or what

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Speaker 2: they call it, drop in your body. When you drop

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Speaker 2: this body, you come back in your You keep fulfilling

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Speaker 2: your obligation to them for a billion years, which is absurd.

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Speaker 2: And I understood that at thirteen, and I was like, yeah, no,

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Speaker 2: I don't think I want to do it. So they said,

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Speaker 2: I've been on my own since I was thirteen.

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Speaker 1: Your mother let you leave, Walk right out.

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Speaker 2: The door, down the steps, down the sidewalk, didn't say

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Speaker 1: Wait, I'm I'm getting most of it right now. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you are a thirteen year old girl, not even a woman.

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Speaker 1: You're a thirteen year old girl and you leave the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I had a little backpack that had my

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Speaker 1: Now, before we get into what you did after that,

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Speaker 1: you do doing your time.

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Speaker 2: There, Yes, I do. The crazy thing is the overall

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Speaker 2: clear the world of negativity. That's the overall goal. To

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Speaker 2: clear the planet, not the world, the planet. In order

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Speaker 2: Org member, two different things. Scientologists is when you just

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Speaker 2: Fresh scientologists. Didn't know that day, I didn't know that,

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Speaker 2: So a lot of celebrities that are scientologists. However, when

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Speaker 2: billion year contract to work for them, work for them forever,

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Speaker 2: and that's a whole different ballgame.

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Speaker 1: So, yeah, did any mishaps happen to you, because you know,

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Speaker 1: people do consider it to be a cult, and sometimes

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Speaker 1: on a cult, a lot of unfortunate defenses happens to you,

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Speaker 1: especially young girls. Did you experience any of those industrial.

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Speaker 2: Jesus, I did not experience any thing like that. It

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Speaker 2: was more so I have a story one time I

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Speaker 2: was late for school because we went to Scientology school

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Speaker 2: as well. Like you were there, you didn't you didn't

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Speaker 2: from building to building, but you weren't allowed to just

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Speaker 2: go to regular school and go to whatever whatever. Right.

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Speaker 2: I was late for school one day and because I

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Speaker 2: was late, they had me white glove a dumpster. Literally

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Speaker 2: I think I was nine, and I had to white

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Speaker 2: glove a dumpster, meaning clean the entire dumpster. And when

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Speaker 2: I was done, they literally put white gloves on and

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Speaker 2: like scraped the crevices of the dumpster. It was things

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Speaker 2: like that. Remember I had a cleaning service. Oh I

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Speaker 2: know how to clean, thank you Scientology.

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Speaker 1: So that just to check to make sure that shit

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was my punishment for being late for school.

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Speaker 2: It was extreme things like that that I experienced, but

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Speaker 2: never anything you know, you know, sexual or anything like that.

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Speaker 2: I never went through that.

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Speaker 1: When you left at thirteen, where did you go?

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Speaker 2: I had a family friend that lived in south central

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Speaker 2: at La, and I had I took the bus. I

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Speaker 2: took the bus, two buses, all the way across town.

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Speaker 2: I went to the payphone, because you know his payphone. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I went to the payphone, and I had her number

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Speaker 2: It was kind of cool because I saw me in him.

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Speaker 2: We looked alike. You know what I'm saying. I'm like, oh, okay,

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Speaker 1: You know. Did he know about you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you knew about me. It was writing my mom

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Speaker 1: Of respect to your mother, and I want to ask us,

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Speaker 1: not being disrespectful, because you know, my heart, did your

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Speaker 1: or where she just caught up in the religion of scientology.

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Speaker 2: She was searching for her truth. I really believe that

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Speaker 2: was just searching because before that religion, she was in

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Speaker 1: So, yeah, so you're in la You're a teenage girl.

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Speaker 1: And what is so interesting? Even before the love and

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Speaker 1: in some music videos. Yeah. My favorite video that you're

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Speaker 1: in is Pharrell and jay Z song Frightened Frighten Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you're y'all top your real hair looking amazing.

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Speaker 3: I was in it with Lauren London, Lauren London and

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Speaker 1: How did you get involved in Hollywood.

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Speaker 2: Crazy thing? I was just always around that circle. I

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Speaker 2: I didn't audition for that video. There was a woman

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Speaker 2: that worked for def Jam, Margot rain Right. Shout out

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Speaker 2: you out for the video. That was it. They flew

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Speaker 2: me out. I did the video. Like all the videos

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Speaker 2: I was in, they just called me and say, hey,

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Speaker 2: just be blessing me.

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Speaker 1: Yes, this is reality with the King and I'm Carlos King.

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Speaker 1: Let's get back into the show. So you were in

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Speaker 2: Were you? I did one twelve and super Cat. I

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Speaker 2: can't remember. It was so long ago. It was so long.

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Speaker 1: You were like an it girl.

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Speaker 3: Yes, first of all, it was it was you, Claudia.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Carle roommates.

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Speaker 2: Claudia and I were roommates. Carl she lived around the corner.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love all of this. What was it like

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Speaker 2: It was cool? It was super cool, Like there, it

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Speaker 2: It was like all day party, like you know how

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Speaker 2: was a party all day. It was super cool. People

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Speaker 4: I mean.

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Speaker 2: It was it was fun. Do you remember the concept

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Speaker 2: like the full concept of the video. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if it translated, well, tellers, and I'll let you know

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Speaker 2: if I got that. Okay, So I was Sparrell's girlfriend

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Speaker 2: or one of the girls he was dating, right, And

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Speaker 2: I was there flirting with one of the skateboard guys.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it was a lot going on in that video.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know if you remember when we go

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Speaker 2: It was a lot going on. But then he was there.

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Speaker 2: He had the other two girls there too, so everybody

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Speaker 1: The rest is history. But no, you've been around a

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Speaker 1: lot of famous people, a lot of famous men. Who's

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Speaker 2: Famous guy I dated?

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Speaker 1: To me?

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Speaker 2: Famous relative Carlos?

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Speaker 1: You don't know the absent, you know, you know there's

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Speaker 1: two Once an army singer, Yes.

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Speaker 2: Oh gosh, oh my god.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, once an army singer. What is a rapper? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And we're gonna.

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Speaker 2: Keep it, keep it there, Yeah, we're gonna keep it

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Speaker 2: right there.

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Speaker 1: And all I will say is they're both very relevant today. Yes,

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Speaker 1: do they keep in touch with you?

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Speaker 2: We don't keep in touch. But if I see him,

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Speaker 2: it's it's all good. Yeah, it's all good.

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Speaker 1: Did you were you ever in love with any of them?

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Speaker 2: In love?

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Speaker 1: You were in love with the rapper. He was in

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Speaker 2: First of all, let's be clear, at my ripe age

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Speaker 2: right now, at my ripe good age right now, I

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Speaker 2: can't say that I was in love. I was probably

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Speaker 2: inad infatuated, in confusion. I was probably in a lot

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Speaker 1: I don't know if love was one of them. But

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Speaker 1: on like you know, because you guys have nicknames grab

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Speaker 1: the ear when you look back, oh your like early twenties.

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Speaker 1: Because I believe in this, and I would love to

435
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 1: get your theory or your opinion about this. I tell

436
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,440
Speaker 1: everybody in your twenties me had tack a something to

437
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 1: have this conversation. I'm going to be much more vulgard

438
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 1: because he think a sum as a classy woman. But

439
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 1: we both agreed that your twenties, live your life. Yeah,

440
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:20,120
Speaker 1: I believe in your twenties, have your whole phase. Men

441
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 1: and women go out there.

442
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 2: Day experience that, I mean yead.

443
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,159
Speaker 1: So that when you're in your thirties, mid thirties, you

444
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 1: can feel like I could settle down now, and because

445
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 1: I lived, I did that. Did you have a wonderful

446
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:34,120
Speaker 1: time in your twenties?

447
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 2: Actually, my thirties was better than my twenties. Why. Yeah,

448
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 2: it was because in my twenties I was a Dodo

449
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 2: bird shit idiot, like I didn't know. Yeah, in my thirties,

450
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 2: I was a little bit you know, and I was

451
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 2: like okay, and I was able to Yeah, my thirties

452
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 2: were great.

453
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 1: How old were you when you joined Love and Hip

454
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 1: Hop thirty seven?

455
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 2: Mm?

456
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 1: How old were you when you met Stevie j twenty.

457
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 2: Three or four twenty three?

458
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:14,880
Speaker 1: Four?

459
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 2: Yeah?

460
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 1: Was it love at first sight?

461
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 2: It was oh wow, who is that? It was? Who

462
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 2: was that? Yeah?

463
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 1: In a sea of men? Yes you saw.

464
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 2: Well, okay, let's talk about it. I'm met the No

465
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 2: Way Out tour right and you know, concerted it was

466
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 2: rocket discussing this one jumps on top of the speaker,

467
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 2: rips off his wife beater and starts playing the bass

468
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:54,199
Speaker 2: guitar and I was like yeah, yeah. And then a

469
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 2: week later, I run into him at a club. He

470
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 2: steps off my foot with his timberlin and I didn't

471
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 2: know it was him. It was dark, you know, dimly lit,

472
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,959
Speaker 2: and I was about to cuss him the fuck out

473
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 2: because he heard my toe and I look up and

474
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 2: it was Stevie. And that's how we met. He stepped

475
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 2: on my foot with his fucking temperance.

476
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 1: He was like, there he goes, there he goes. And

477
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: when y'all locked eyes, y'all were light and separable.

478
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 2: It has been We have a sixteen year old.

479
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 1: I want to tell I want to ask you about

480
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 1: this story, and you tell me if it's true.

481
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 4: Okay, oh God, Okay, okay, because maybe the life of

482
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 4: Meybe Founds is a biopic that should be on lifetime.

483
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 1: Is it true that when Stevie J was dating Eve,

484
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 1: that you found out and you had a fight with her.

485
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 2: No, that is not true.

486
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:08,880
Speaker 1: Okay.

487
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 2: If they had a fight, I didn't fight anybody.

488
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: What there's a story that I've heard about that's a

489
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 1: hotel backdrop, right, Okay.

490
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 2: Because the story is all twisted, let's talk about it. Stevie,

491
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,679
Speaker 2: I knew that he was seeing Eve, but he told me,

492
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 2: we're not together. We're broke up. We're broken up, we're

493
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 2: not together. I missed you. I want to see you.

494
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 2: Come visit me. Fine flew to New York. He was

495
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 2: at not a hotel, this was his place. It was

496
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 2: his condo. And I'm there. We're chilling all day. I'm

497
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 2: talk about all day. We're chilling all night, chilling. It's

498
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 2: the wee hours of the motherfucking It's like four o'clock

499
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 2: in the morning. We're still chilling. We can't we in bed,

500
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 2: we talking catching up. Knock knock, knock on the door.

501
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 2: So his homeboy was in the living room. So he

502
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 2: was like, yo, my at the door. This dude says,

503
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 2: let her in. Was always with the ship, always we're

504
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,959
Speaker 2: in the bed, dick, he says, let her in. So

505
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 2: I'm like, you told me y'all broke up. Like what

506
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 2: the fuck? So she comes walking down the hall clickity clack,

507
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 2: clickity clack, with her eels on, baby, and I'm like,

508
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 2: are you fucking serious right now? And I'm looking at

509
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 2: him and he is like, not faced at all, chilling,

510
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 2: and I'm like, what the fuck? She comes She just

511
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 2: talking talking. You know, the hallways in New York they're long, yeah.

512
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 2: So they're like an eternity this shit. He getting to

513
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 2: this barrow and I'm like what the fuck. And I'm

514
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 2: laying to bed, like she comes. She flips on the

515
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 2: light and she was like stunned. You know what I'm saying.

516
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 2: Of course she of course she would be right. So

517
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 2: she goes but zirk, she cussing him out every which way,

518
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 2: fuck Sunday and fuck you. You know, do you know

519
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 2: what I am? I mean, she's going in. She going

520
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 2: in rightfully, so rightfully so and what are you doing?

521
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 2: I'm just sitting there like, as long as they don't

522
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 2: come over, we're good.

523
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 1: You could cuss, throw, break.

524
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 2: Everything in this bitch, just stay over there. So she

525
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 2: was like, you know, So she gets up, she was like,

526
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 2: fuck you, I'm out. She leaps. I guess once she

527
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 2: left out. Thirty six us later, she must have realized

528
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 2: I just left him in there in the bed, bitch.

529
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 2: So she like her, She was like, I must have

530
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 2: clicked her. Wait, fuck that right, So she bamming on door.

531
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 2: Here go yo, my back at the door, distant let

532
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 2: her in.

533
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: Stephen Jordan Stephen Jorddah has always been with the sheds.

534
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,959
Speaker 2: So now she comes in like a fricking tornado. And

535
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 2: and then that then that was them that had the fight.

536
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 2: They going at it, they going, they were going. She

537
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 2: was trying to rip his head off his shoulders and

538
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 2: roll his head down that hall like a bully ball.

539
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 2: And I didn't blame her, and I was like, you

540
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 2: know what, y'all got some ship, y'all got a handle.

541
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 2: Let me go, how politely got dressed and I.

542
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: Left, and you was like, get him again. He told me.

543
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 2: He's always is doing some bullshit, always doing some bullshit.

544
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 1: You know what it's so interesting about that entire story

545
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: to me is the fact that he has never changed,

546
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 1: like that's that's who he is. And admittedly, admittedly you're

547
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: in your twenties, there's some sort of thrill about that

548
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: for him, I mean for you. I mean, you know,

549
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: like the good girl didn't a bad boy of.

550
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 2: Course, of course, of course, yes, of course, but when

551
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 2: you're being consistently lied to and you don't know. I

552
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 2: didn't know when you tell me we're not together, oh

553
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 2: we I mean, it was a all thing. We're not together.

554
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 2: I'm looking around, I don't see any of her stuff,

555
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. I'm like, okay, this is

556
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 2: this is a thing. They're not together. That was all bullshit.

557
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 2: Then he calls me the next day and said, why

558
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 2: did you leave? He made me look bad? What that

559
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 2: made you look bad? Why did I leave? Yeah? He's macaron.

560
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 2: I also want to clear something up. A lot of

561
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 2: people said, oh, he dated Eve, and you named your

562
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 2: daughter after Eve. My daughter is not named after Eve.

563
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 2: Let's come on now. My daughter is named after her mother,

564
00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 2: my my mother, so Eva's grandmother. My mother's name is Eva.

565
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 2: I named her after her grandmother.

566
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: Her name is Eva.

567
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 2: My Eva is my mother's middle name. So I named

568
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 2: her Eva. Giselle, not after Eve. Had nothing to do

569
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 2: with Eve.

570
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: I know people thought that because again I know that

571
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: her name is Eva.

572
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 2: People were like, oh, you named your daughter after I'm like,

573
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 2: where'd y'all get that from?

574
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,719
Speaker 1: I never thought about that. That's wild. O. Listen, I'm

575
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: glad you cleared that up. Okay, so you're thirty seven

576
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: years old and Love and Hip Hop calls.

577
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 2: You Hannah Kane.

578
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: Hannah Kank shouting.

579
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 2: Hannah Kank shot out to Hannah Kan Hannah.

580
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: Kank, First of all, she's a a silent killer, and

581
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: I don't mean that in the literal sense. But she

582
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: runs shit in Atlanta and always has. She's a big

583
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: deal in music industry. Yes, she's a gorgeous woman. And

584
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: I'm afraid of her because you think made me know

585
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: how to cause don't mess with Hannah Kan, baby, you

586
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: will get dealt with Shaunt Hannah Kank. She's a best

587
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: kept secret. Yes, I love you Hannah.

588
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, So Hannah's my home girl, that's my mind mark,

589
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 2: very close, very close. Hannah was hired to do the

590
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 2: casting for Love and Hip Hop. Okay, so of course

591
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 2: she gonna call her her folks first. So she hits

592
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 2: me up. She was like, yo, she sends me a text.

593
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 2: She was like me, me, there's a new show, Love

594
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 2: and Hip Hop Atlanta. Mind you. Love and Hip Hop

595
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 2: New York was out first season. Jim and Christy saw it,

596
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 2: loved it, loved it, thought it was cute, and so

597
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 2: she was like, they're doing an Atlanta franchise. You and

598
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 2: Stevie should go out for the casting. So I was like, okay,

599
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 2: So I called Stevie. Hey, Dana just told me about

600
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah whatever. Immediately this one goes in

601
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 2: on me. Immediately, and I was like, put the gun away,

602
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 2: Like what the fuck this?

603
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: Fuck you?

604
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 2: I'm not doing that shit with you. I mean cussed

605
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 2: me out. I was like, okay. I was confused, Like,

606
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 2: what's why all the hostility. I'm just presenting an opportunity.

607
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 2: I didn't get what he was sold. And that was that.

608
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 2: I said, Okay, well, I guess that's not gonna.

609
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: Oops.

610
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 2: Okay, So this is Monday, right, The casting was Wednesday.

611
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 2: That's like a day and a half away. It's Monday afternoon,

612
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 2: so you know, I said, you know what I thought

613
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 2: about it. I slept on it. I said, I'm going

614
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 2: to go down there, just because I got the fucking

615
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 2: phone call. I'h wanna see what they're talking about. I

616
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 2: go down the Mansion Hotel, which is now the what

617
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 2: is it now?

618
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 1: I forgot there.

619
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 2: I go down to the hotel and half of Atlanta

620
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 2: was there to try out for love and hip hop,

621
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 2: I mean line wrapped around the building, the lobby, sea

622
00:35:55,640 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 2: of people pet and I walk in and the only

623
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 2: person I saw out of this sea of people was

624
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,280
Speaker 2: Macaroni Jordan.

625
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:09,399
Speaker 1: He was there.

626
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 2: He beat me there.

627
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 1: Why do you think he did that?

628
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 2: Steve? He beat me there, Carlos. So I sat sitting down.

629
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 2: I remember what he had on. He had on a

630
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 2: red Adidas track suit with some gazelle glasses. And I

631
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 2: was kind of bucking, like where do you get this from?

632
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 2: Like it was all like new clothes, Like where do

633
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 2: you get this from? So I'm a little like what

634
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 2: the like? I walk up on him. We had a

635
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:45,479
Speaker 2: whole argument right there in the lobby. Sure did not loud,

636
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 2: but you could tell it. It was a problem because

637
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 2: it was a whole lot of this and finger pointing

638
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 2: and you know. And we got a tap said, hey,

639
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 2: you two, come with me. Follow her. It was Tiffany.

640
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 2: Tiffany says, come with me. We follow her. We go

641
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 2: to this big conference room. There's all these executives sitting

642
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 2: in front of the table and they had two chairs

643
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 2: in the middle floor and they sat us there and

644
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 2: they said, so tell us about yourselves. First of all,

645
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 2: we just got finished calling each other everything but a

646
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 2: child to God.

647
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: Like bad.

648
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 2: It was bad in that lobby. And he turns into

649
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 2: a saint. The sun, the moon and the stars and

650
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 2: when the planets aligned, the fuck what? And I'm looking

651
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 2: at him like, you can't be serious, right, now he's

652
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 2: talking about planets aligning and the moon and the stars,

653
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 2: and all of the executives everybody was looking really perplexed,

654
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 2: like what is he talking about. I don't even think

655
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,439
Speaker 2: he knew he was talking about. He was just trying

656
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 2: to fluff them. He's a music dude. He didn't know

657
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 2: what they wanted. He needs a TV. I don't think

658
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 2: he even knew what they wanted. So he was just

659
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 2: trying to give him something and he he turned into

660
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 2: a Saint Gandhi. I was when I tell you, I

661
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 2: was fuming, Carlos. I said, you are not going to

662
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 2: get in front of these people and act like this

663
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 2: after what you just said to me in that lobby.

664
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 2: I'm greeting my teeth, my leg is shaking, all the stuff.

665
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 2: When I say Jesus took the wheel, because I just

666
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 2: blurted it out, I said, you want to know the problem,

667
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 2: I says, he doesn't come home or not and when

668
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 2: he does, he smells like pussy. And there you have it.

669
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,879
Speaker 1: So what's funny is okay? So I get a call

670
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 1: about their doing love and Hip Hop Atlanta and I'm

671
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: a fan of New York. I'm a huge fan of Chrissy.

672
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: I think she's an icon in her own right. And

673
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: I'm doing I'm doing Housewives, and I'm like, I want

674
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: to go over here because I love loving hip hop.

675
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: So long story short, Mona scot Young she showed me,

676
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: like everybody who's a part of the show whatever, and

677
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 1: that same hotel. It was a cast meeting, and I

678
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: remember meeting you and Stevie and I remember instantly being like,

679
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: those are stars and you know this, I'm sure. So

680
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: at the time, the network wanted DJ Drama and his

681
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: girl to be the face of the franchise. Did you

682
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 1: know this?

683
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 2: I did not.

684
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: Okay, so DJ Drama, the network, everybody was like, they're

685
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: the premier couple because DJ Drama obviously is relevant and

686
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 1: at that time, obviously in Atlanta he still is, but

687
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: at that time too a big name.

688
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

689
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 1: So I was like, oh, that's fine, I said, but

690
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,439
Speaker 1: there's something about this bb in Stevie. I'm just telling

691
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: you about I see this is maybe a Stevie thing,

692
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: is lit. Long story short. DJ Dramas girl at the

693
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: time was fifty to fifty and Drama was like twenty

694
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: five twenty five percent that he wanted to do or

695
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 1: seventy five. He wasn't doing it. Long story short, they

696
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: backed out and we had one week to start filming.

697
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: They never agree with the show. It's funny you don't

698
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 1: know this, And Mona goes, what are we going to do?

699
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: And I said, I think we should focus on media

700
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 1: and TV and she said, I think you're right. She

701
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 1: and I, along with Stephanie Gale and the rest of

702
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: the producers, all of us collectively, we had to rearrange

703
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: the episode, and our first theme that we shot was

704
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: you and Stevie in this house. And y'all got to

705
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: this argument and me and Mona and Stephanie looked at

706
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,919
Speaker 1: each other and said, oh, bitch, we got a show.

707
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: We got a show. We got a show. Remember that,

708
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: and look it was Look the rest is history. But

709
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 1: I do want to ask you.

710
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 3: This obviously, So again, there was no Joscelyne at this time. Yes,

711
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,720
Speaker 3: there was in terms of us knowing about it. Okay,

712
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 3: So how did.

713
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 1: You find out that Stevie j wanted Joscelyn to be

714
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 1: on the show.

715
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 2: He told me initially because he needed an artist, because

716
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 2: he is a pre producer, so he needed an artist

717
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 2: to film with. So that's why I thought Joscelyn was

718
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 2: initially was his artist. I'm going to be doing studio scenes,

719
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. I didn't really know what the truth

720
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 2: was till it aired.

721
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:51,720
Speaker 1: And I saw types of goings on going on because

722
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 1: at that time, you really thought we were working on

723
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: our relationship.

724
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes I did. I found out what the rest

725
00:41:58,880 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 2: of the world on Monday night.

726
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 1: It appears to me that the same thing Stevie told

727
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 1: you about him and Eve not being together is the

728
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 1: same thing he told her, Yes, and that's why in

729
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: her eyes she thought this was my man, and you're

730
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: just the baby mama, got it. Yeah, so you're the problem, Steven.

731
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 1: I love you. The problem is two women were forced

732
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: to dislike each other based on the lies of the man.

733
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 2: He loved every second of it. He likes that drama

734
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 2: around him.

735
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 1: He loves it.

736
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,879
Speaker 2: He's always done it. He did it back when he's

737
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,399
Speaker 2: I don't know what he's doing now, but I'm sure

738
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 2: he's doing it right now today.

739
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: What is your relationship like now with Stevie.

740
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 2: Jay, I don't have a relationship with him.

741
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: No, Nope, you guys don't talk.

742
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 2: Nope.

743
00:42:56,280 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: Why for what? Up? You have the daughter together.

744
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 2: She has a cell phone.

745
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: Is there something happened?

746
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 2: He I don't know where his deal is. But to

747
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 2: keep my peace. You see how peaceful I am. I

748
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 2: keep I stay the funk away from me. Yeah, he

749
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 2: can call Eva, they can communicate, But yeah, as far

750
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 2: as I'm concerned, I don't have anything to talk to

751
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 2: him about. There's there's no contributing factor to our household

752
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 2: from him. What the fuck do we have to talk about?

753
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 2: We don't talk to your daughter. Whatever you gotta do

754
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:42,879
Speaker 2: with her, but yeah, we don't. I just I keep

755
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 2: my peace, and that's the only way I know how

756
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 2: because he he Yeah, I'd got to keep my peace.

757
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 2: So you stay wherever you're gonna be, and you gonna

758
00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:00,399
Speaker 2: draw a line. Lie.

759
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 1: You mentioned earlier that obviously you and Jocelyn. You know

760
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: you guys share children who are considered half siblings. Do

761
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 1: you and Joscelene talk tough the kids to each other?

762
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 2: Eva calls her sister. They talk on the phone all

763
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 2: the time. Okay, so her and Bonnie. I hear them

764
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 2: all the time on FaceTime and chopping it up, and

765
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 2: you know, so they definitely have a relationship, and I

766
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 2: encourage it. Call your sister. Have you talked to your sister.

767
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 2: I encourage her to have a relationship as her sister,

768
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 2: but me and her mom know she sent even some

769
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 2: money for her birthday. Thank you. Yeah. But as far

770
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 2: as us communicating, no, we don't communicate.

771
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 1: When you look at who Joscelyn is now, are you

772
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: proud of what she's been able to accomplish.

773
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 2: From where she came from? Absolutely? Absolutely. I mean it's

774
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 2: still on the same level, but she's very successful at

775
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 2: what she does, what she has, the brand that she's

776
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 2: made for herself and very successful. So absolutely, any woman

777
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 2: who can bring themselves from where they were to a

778
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 2: successful level, were able to take care of her family

779
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 2: and do what she does, kudos to her. Absolutely.

780
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about your experience doing

781
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: reality television because I remember working with you guys season

782
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 1: one and me me after the first episode aired, youll

783
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 1: lives were never the same. No, and I'm not exasperating

784
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: when I say this, and you stop me because you

785
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: know they love to say call us type shit up.

786
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: We had a lot of housewives. There was a different

787
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 1: energy in the city of Atlanta alone. When it came

788
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 1: you guys were the biggest celebrities in the city.

789
00:45:59,320 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 2: It was crazy.

790
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: We're not even gonna touch going out, you know, worldwide

791
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 1: and all that ship. But I'll just say with Atlanta, yeah,

792
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 1: it was a It was a meteoric rise. You went

793
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: from making a couple of thousand two I will never

794
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 1: get them through your business you want to. You were

795
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 1: making double digits your second season.

796
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

797
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: People today believe that there will be no love and

798
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 1: hip hop. Yes, Christie Jimmy started it, and we will

799
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,760
Speaker 1: always give them props for like Vicki Gobason with OC.

800
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: But everyone said Niani Leaks, put Nini Leaks, Shara Kim,

801
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: Deshaun Lisa will put the spots on the map. Everyone

802
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: has said that. And this is no shade to anybody.

803
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: People say this that me and me, Stevie, James, jos

804
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 1: Leen carried that franchise on their back. Do you at

805
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: that time did you understand the power? You had?

806
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 2: Absolutely not, no clue, no clue. I was literally living

807
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 2: it in the moment, and I couldn't even see outside

808
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 2: of the situations that were going on in my every day,

809
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 2: So I had no clue. It was like I was

810
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 2: in a bubble, how big it was, how I had

811
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 2: no clue. Carlos. Had I had a clue, i'd be

812
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 2: somewhere completely different. Right now, I'll tell you that I

813
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 2: really would have.

814
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: Did you save any money?

815
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I saved. I'm great at saving. I'm a capcorn. Okay,

816
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 2: I'm saying grated saving.

817
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: Do you feel like you got compensated for what you

818
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: brought to that show?

819
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 2: That's questionable. It's relative. Here's the thing with the compensation,

820
00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 2: because reality TV only pays you one time and one

821
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 2: time only, and it keeps running and keeps running, and

822
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:09,280
Speaker 2: you never get compensated again. I'm gonna say no, Okay,

823
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 2: I do not feel like for it to still be running.

824
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 2: There's people that young people that come up to me

825
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 2: now that say, oh my god, you know that feel

826
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 2: like they're just they're just seeing this for the first

827
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 2: time and they're getting this experience and I don't get

828
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 2: another dime from that, but somebody else's so No, I

829
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 2: don't to answer your questions. No.

830
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 1: Jocelyne said that she believed she became the highest paid

831
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: talent on Love and Hip Hop. She says she was

832
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: making around fifty thousand per episode. Were you getting the

833
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: same Nope, you weren't no, were you getting half of that? Yes?

834
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 2: I was getting more than half when I wasn't getting that.

835
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: Do you feel like you deserve to get paid as

836
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,280
Speaker 1: much as Jocelyne fucking Louie?

837
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely, because if it wasn't for me and him,

838
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 2: there would have been on her. So yeah, absolutely, don't

839
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 2: get me wrong. Jocelyne was the fire, She was the flare.

840
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 2: She brought all the antagonistic everything to the table, but

841
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,320
Speaker 2: it all tied together. If I wasn't a part of that,

842
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 2: then you see what I'm saying. Yeah, we should have

843
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 2: been making the same amount of money all three of us.

844
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 1: Do you feel like you were ever appreciated for what

845
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: you contributed to the show?

846
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:58,919
Speaker 2: Not really? Nah, not really. I feel like I felt

847
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 2: like I was a pawn in the To be honest,

848
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 2: I really did. I felt as though I was the

849
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 2: person who they could get that reaction from, and I

850
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 2: gave it to him every time they could they you know,

851
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 2: and even though I kept my cool, I would keep

852
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 2: my cool for as long as I could. But at

853
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 2: some point the cool goes out the window when you're

854
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 2: when these things, these situations are happening, and sometimes you

855
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 2: lose your cool and I lost my cool a lot.

856
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 2: I was a very emotional I was emotional as fuck

857
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 2: because I'm really living this in real time, so yeah,

858
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 2: I am. And it was like got her cut, Okay,

859
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 2: wrap it up. Yeah, and I'm just like I'm left

860
00:50:56,120 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 2: there at a complete fucking emotional wreck. And they were like,

861
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 2: we got the scene, all right, let's go, and I'm

862
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 2: just over here fucking losing it with no recourse. There

863
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 2: was no recourse. There was no therapists we could go

864
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 2: talk to afterwards, there was no there was nothing. It

865
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 2: was just wreck your shit and send you home. Go.

866
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 2: That's basically what it was.

867
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 1: It was a lot, and it was a lot more.

868
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 1: When Nico came on the show, do you regret.

869
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 2: Absolutely ten thousand percent regret that whole I regret I

870
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 2: regret meeting Nico, Yeah, that whole situation. If there was,

871
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 2: you know, the big do over buttons, if I had

872
00:51:56,719 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 2: one to push, it would be him, Yes, why yes,

873
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 2: it would be him, because with him came a lot

874
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 2: of bad decisions, very bad decisions I can't take back

875
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 2: came with that.

876
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 1: With that situation, it's about the sex tape. Do you

877
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: regret doing it?

878
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 2: Absolutely?

879
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 1: Do you feel like he manipulated you.

880
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 2: I felt manipulation was a part of it. Naive, I

881
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 2: was gullible as fuck. I had lack of anybody around

882
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 2: me with any type of integrity to give me good

883
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 2: advice or to steer me in the right direction. It

884
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:46,800
Speaker 2: was a lot of factors. It was a lot of

885
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 2: factors to go along with that situation.

886
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: I remember you called me, do you do you remember this?

887
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 1: Tell me I was in I was in Mexico. Fail

888
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 1: me Niani Leak's Wedding special and I'm in Mexico because

889
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,359
Speaker 1: the that was a Bridesmade Trip, Bachelor red party. There

890
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 1: you go and you call me and you told me

891
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 1: what was going on. And I said to you, oh, baby,

892
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 1: don't no, I don't like that. I said, you're I said,

893
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,800
Speaker 1: you're You're You're so much better than that. You're so

894
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 1: much better than that. And I could tell at the

895
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 1: time that your headspace was somewhere else and I knew that.

896
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: And listen when I say this, and I'm saying this

897
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 1: as somebody who understands what you reality stars have to

898
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:46,879
Speaker 1: go through. It is a unique world. And it's sort

899
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 1: of like being a part of a sports team. Like

900
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 1: you will you will never know what the athletes have

901
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: to go through, discipline, training, all of that to to

902
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 1: be you know, the top five starting players. So I

903
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: knew you were at a place where that show was

904
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 1: so fucking big and it was like topping yourself every

905
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 1: chance you can get right, And I just knew you

906
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 1: were being influenced by people around you. I appreciate the

907
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,879
Speaker 1: fact that you knew with me, I will always tell

908
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 1: you the truth. And although I said, Pitt, you don't

909
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 1: need that girl by blah blah blah boom, I also

910
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 1: knew that because I wasn't on the show with you anymore,

911
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 1: that our connection where because when we were together, you'd

912
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 1: be like and I'm like, you'd be like, ok right.

913
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:36,840
Speaker 1: So I knew that, unfortunately, because we weren't together, that

914
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 1: you have other people around you. And I just remember

915
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,919
Speaker 1: thinking to myself, like, I just want her to be okay.

916
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 1: I just want her to be okay. Everything hit the fan.

917
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:54,320
Speaker 1: I do want to ask you this is your is

918
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 1: even aware? Yes? And how do you remember? Do you

919
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: remember the day that you have that conversation with her?

920
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 1: Did she find out you decided to tell her your

921
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 1: own She already knew, she already knew do you know

922
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 1: how old she was when she knew? She was.

923
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 2: I think eleven or twelve when she caught wind of it.

924
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,720
Speaker 1: Do you know how she called her friends?

925
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, because kids were watching Love and Hip

926
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 2: Hop at the time, and their parents were letting and

927
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 2: watch it. I never let even watch the show, but

928
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:37,359
Speaker 2: you know that was me. So many other parents were

929
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 2: letting their kids watch the show, and so, yeah, some

930
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 2: kids said something to her about it. She can she no,

931
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 2: she never said anything. She kept it to herself. She

932
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 2: never said anything. And every time I'm like, Okay, I'm

933
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 2: gonna tell her, I'm going to tell her, and I

934
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 2: was like, oh, it's not the right time. I kept

935
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:56,240
Speaker 2: thinking it wasn't the right time. So when I finally

936
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 2: told her, she had already known.

937
00:55:58,120 --> 00:55:59,320
Speaker 1: Do you remember how old she was?

938
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 2: And told her, uh, thirteen thirteen?

939
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 1: And how did she just said I already knew?

940
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 2: Yeah? She was like you she was like she already knew. Yeah.

941
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 2: But you know that was a crazy moment because I'm like,

942
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 2: you know, what does it tell you? And you know,

943
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 2: I didn't want you to find out any other way,

944
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 2: But I should have known Love and Hip Hop was

945
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 2: so big unless I kept her completely under a rock.

946
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 2: How was she not?

947
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 4: You know?

948
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 1: And that alone was what's crazy is it was low

949
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:43,840
Speaker 1: key as big as ray Ja and Kims. It was huge.

950
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 2: They broke the internet.

951
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah broke. Did you think that that would

952
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 1: have given you the star power of Kim Kardashian. No,

953
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 1: you didn't think that.

954
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:02,320
Speaker 2: No, absolutely not. And my actual reason for doing it

955
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 2: was once I had the conversation with the people at

956
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 2: Vivid and they were like, this is out in the world,

957
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 2: like your shit's out there. He shopped it. It's all over,

958
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 2: so it can be all over or it can be

959
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 2: all over and controlled. And in my you know, I'm like, well,

960
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 2: I would rather be controlled then it just be all over.

961
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 2: Uncontrolled was my thought process in the moment for even

962
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 2: signing with them, because I was like no. At first,

963
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 2: I'm like I'm not, no, like no, because they initially

964
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 2: just wanted to talk to us. I guess they wanted

965
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 2: to let me know that this is everywhere, and that

966
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 2: was my reason for actually signing with them, because I

967
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 2: wanted it to be controlled, which I mean, yeah, yeah.

968
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 1: Do you remember how much they paid you.

969
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 2: Was it a lot? Yeah? Well, what I did was

970
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 2: took the deal to be paid over time. I didn't

971
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 2: want just a lump sum. I wanted it to just

972
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 2: be spread out.

973
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 1: Over time, hundreds of thousands. Okay, okay. On the show,

974
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 1: you also had a babocate Michelle. Did that surprise you?

975
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 1: Because you guys, Because again I'm not on the show

976
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 1: and I'm watching it, I'm like, they got be But

977
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 1: but so it was so strange to me. Obviously, you know,

978
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 1: she hit hit you with the flower because she was

979
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 1: arguing about Nico living with his roommate.

980
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 4: Edit A.

981
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 2: It did surprise me because I thought Hey and I

982
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 2: were cool. I thought we were friends, and she came

983
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 2: out of left field with this, and it surprised me

984
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 2: all the way. But in that moment, it really showed

985
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 2: me who came a show was And I never forgot it.

986
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 1: Do y'all speak?

987
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 2: Absolutely not. We haven't spoken since that time.

988
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 1: Are you serious?

989
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 2: Have not spoken since that time? I was like, got it? Noted,

990
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 2: You'll never get to do that to me again in

991
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 2: your fucking life. Yeah.

992
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 1: How do you feel about her being on Love? How

993
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 1: do you feel about her being on the Real Housewise,

994
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 1: I'm good for her.

995
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 2: Like I said, if you listen, it's hard to these

996
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 2: hard times, if you can maneuver and get where you

997
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 2: need to be and elevate yourself. Good for her, good

998
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 2: for her, for her country music career, all that, but

999
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 2: her as a person. As far as her and I concerned,

1000
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 2: I don't fuck what came to show?

1001
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 1: Do you fuck with Arion Davis?

1002
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 2: I do not.

1003
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 1: That was her best friend? Yes, where did things go

1004
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 1: wrong with you? In Aria?

1005
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 2: She continued to show me who she was as well,

1006
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 2: little things here and there. You consistently you befriended everybody

1007
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 2: on the show. They didn't fuck with me. Did you

1008
00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 2: realize that even down to Nego's wife you befriended. Is

1009
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 2: this for the spotlight? Is it for a shine? Is

1010
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 2: it for?

1011
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 1: What is that for?

1012
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 2: Because my best friend is not gonna be friend, he

1013
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 2: goes wife. It's just not gonna do it. It's not

1014
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 2: gonna fucking happen. And so I had to take sit

1015
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 2: back and be like okay, and I kept giving her passes.

1016
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 2: I kept giving her passes, and at some point I'm like, Okay,

1017
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 2: you need to fucking look at yourself. You can't complain

1018
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 2: about this person doing this and doing that, and you

1019
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 2: keep allowing it, You keep being okay with it. You

1020
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 2: keep being cool with her after she does these things.

1021
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 2: So I just had to be an. I knew area

1022
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 2: for years.

1023
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, So is it true that you've recommended her?

1024
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 2: Absolutely? Absolutely? She was my best friend.

1025
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1026
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 2: Why not have my my best friend come on the

1027
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 2: show with me and go through this journey with me? Absolutely?

1028
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 1: What do you think changed the show?

1029
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 2: You've seen it. You've seen people from where they started

1030
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 2: and they get on TV and it sh changes them.

1031
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 2: It changes them.

1032
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 1: You know what's so fascinating. You are literally the same

1033
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 1: person since day one, since then.

1034
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 2: You really are since day.

1035
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 1: What you've always been. And I mean that you are

1036
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 1: one of the rare girls of mine that the first

1037
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 1: of I met you, you have remained that person. It

1038
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 1: does sad to me about the ending of your friendship

1039
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 1: with Arian, because I knew how much you guys love

1040
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 1: each other. Do you think that, Well, let me ask

1041
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 1: you this instead. Do you remember what the last straw was?

1042
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 2: I don't. It's been so many years. I don't. It

1043
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 2: was so much and I was just like, I don't

1044
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 2: want to do this anymore, and I just stopped.

1045
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 1: You were in a relate show with Tai Young. Ty

1046
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 1: Young has been said by you know, the fans, your

1047
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 1: girl Claudia Jordan, that thy Young likes to date women

1048
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 1: in reality television. There were rumors she was dating Drew,

1049
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 1: So Dora, why well, first of all, maybe maybe I

1050
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 1: found you. You ready to allow the clip for some reason? Okay, yeah,

1051
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 1: you know, okay, I.

1052
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 2: Just wanted to pat my hair.

1053
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 1: That's okay, y'all. I just found some energy all of

1054
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 1: the Scientology or Oliver baby. But you brought her on

1055
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 1: the show. Do you think thy Young really loved you?

1056
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 2: I do?

1057
01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 1: Okay? Why did you and tie Young break up?

1058
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 2: It was the marriage, the marriage thing that was the

1059
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 2: catalyst that really broke us up.

1060
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:10,840
Speaker 1: What marriage thing she proposed?

1061
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 2: And I said yes in the moment, and then I

1062
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:19,480
Speaker 2: was like I can't, I can't. This is not what

1063
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 2: I was supposed to be doing. And then it was

1064
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 2: like a couple of days later, I was like, I

1065
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 2: can do it, not on camera in real life. So

1066
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 2: the whole, the whole proposal was very you know mm production. Yeah,

1067
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 2: and like why would you do that? Why would you

1068
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 2: do that? None of my people were there. None of

1069
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 2: my people were there, not my daughter, not any of

1070
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 2: my friends. I had all my friend's numbers. None of

1071
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 2: my people were at this proposal. Only her friends were there,

1072
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 2: which was a red flag for me. So I'm looking

1073
01:03:57,360 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 2: like and I, you know, slept on it, and I

1074
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 2: was like, mm, this is not what I'm supposed to

1075
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 2: be doing. So I was like, here you go, ring

1076
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 2: back and that's was the beginning of the end of us,

1077
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 2: because she tried to to get to you know, rekindle,

1078
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 2: and you know, we didn't just break it off. I

1079
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 2: was just like, I don't want to do this marriage thing.

1080
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 2: She ended up giving me the ring back and it

1081
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 2: was a whole thing. And then we got back together,

1082
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 2: and then she cheated and it was the whole thing.

1083
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 1: So do you remember who she cheated on you with?

1084
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 2: Absolutely?

1085
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 1: Who was it? There's a few people, reality stars.

1086
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 2: No, nothing, But before that, it was you know, someone

1087
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 2: in her in her world.

1088
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:56,920
Speaker 1: Somebody in the w NBA. How did you find out

1089
01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 1: about her and Juice DOORA?

1090
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 2: Uh, you know, Atlanta's a small It's big, but it's

1091
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:04,960
Speaker 2: a small place, small.

1092
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 1: Business off the street. Do not live in Atlanta a lot.

1093
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 1: Atlanta is the smallest city.

1094
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:19,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, personal experience, go ahead, people talk, people talk, So yeah,

1095
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 2: I was getting you know, phone calls and things.

1096
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:28,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, did Tipe break your heart?

1097
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 2: She hurt me? Yeah she did. She's very she's Scorpio

1098
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 2: and see yeah both of them are Scorpio, so is justly. Yeah,

1099
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:51,960
Speaker 2: they're very. Once they feel scorned or or hurt or whatever,

1100
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:57,479
Speaker 2: they make it their business to get you the fuck back. Yeah,

1101
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 2: and she did that. She did that, She made her business.

1102
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:04,640
Speaker 2: She was like, she was calculated as motherfucking the way

1103
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 2: she did what she did.

1104
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 1: I said, okay, because she was hurt that you didn't

1105
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:10,080
Speaker 1: want to get married.

1106
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 2: That that's my take on it, because why would you

1107
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 2: pursue me back just to do what you did?

1108
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:20,120
Speaker 1: She had to humble you. Because one thing about a

1109
01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 1: Scorpio when they love, they love very hard. And when

1110
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 1: they give their love to you and they feel like

1111
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 1: you crushed it, baby, they believe in revenge.

1112
01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:34,560
Speaker 2: And she did that. And we were together almost seven years.

1113
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 2: Never cheated on that, never cheated on her in seven years.

1114
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 2: But then when that situation happened, Oh yeah, she she

1115
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 2: was like, yeah I got you, bitch, Yeah she did.

1116
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 2: That was it?

1117
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 1: That was it justin fidelity or other stuff.

1118
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 2: It was that. It was that.

1119
01:06:55,480 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, would you ever date another woman? Again probably not. No,

1120
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 1: you're done? Is it okay? Question for you? Because you're

1121
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 1: openly bisexual?

1122
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 2: Oh no, that's a stretch.

1123
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:14,920
Speaker 1: Oh wait, what is it?

1124
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:15,840
Speaker 2: That's a stretch?

1125
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:24,919
Speaker 1: Oh I'm sorry. Apologies labeling you stretch. I was gonna

1126
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 1: ask about you know that first apology? Don't use so.

1127
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 1: I mean, okay, you've been honest about being intimate with

1128
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 1: women in the past, right, But what tie was Ty?

1129
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:44,640
Speaker 1: Just a special person who's who happens to be a

1130
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 1: warmer even in love with Yes, got it?

1131
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 2: But you.

1132
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:51,440
Speaker 1: You don't see yourself as bisexual?

1133
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 2: No?

1134
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 1: Okay, what do you see yourself as?

1135
01:07:54,040 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 2: Maybe that's you know, in my mine, you know, maybe

1136
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 2: the world sees me as that because yes, okay, I

1137
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 2: dated men my whole life and then I had a

1138
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 2: stint with women, right, and now I'm over it. So

1139
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 2: I don't know what do you call that?

1140
01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 1: Is that bisexual? I don't know? Well, I'm gays, honey?

1141
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 1: Was you what a man is? What another man? The

1142
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:27,680
Speaker 1: society says you're gay? But I do feel like with

1143
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:30,400
Speaker 1: the women. Look, the rules are different, and that's just

1144
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 1: what it is. But that's a whole other time.

1145
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:34,760
Speaker 2: I know what the rules are. I have never seen

1146
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 2: the rule book, so I don't know. But yeah I

1147
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 2: did that, I had my experience. I don't think I

1148
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:44,000
Speaker 2: want to do it again. Matter of fact, I don't.

1149
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 2: And yeah I've moved on.

1150
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:52,680
Speaker 1: And yeah, are you dating anybody right now? I am

1151
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:56,439
Speaker 1: is a man?

1152
01:08:57,320 --> 01:08:57,719
Speaker 2: Of course?

1153
01:08:58,800 --> 01:08:59,799
Speaker 1: Is he in the industry?

1154
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:00,479
Speaker 4: He is not?

1155
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 1: Oh? How along? Yam in dating? What a year he

1156
01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 1: lives in Atlanta? Is he a white collar blue collar worker? No? Neither.

1157
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:22,640
Speaker 2: What does he do? He does what he is?

1158
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, are you in love? You haven't posted a man,

1159
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:35,960
Speaker 1: and I won't. You will never go public again?

1160
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:41,920
Speaker 2: Never, no, never, stay out my motherfucking business. That is

1161
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 2: the quickest way to ruin your shit. All these girls,

1162
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:49,800
Speaker 2: and kudos to you if you want to do what

1163
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:54,439
Speaker 2: you do. But everybody's putting these relationships online and letting

1164
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 2: the world into their business and then it's good when

1165
01:09:57,439 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 2: it's good, and when it's bad, it is bad, and

1166
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 2: it's all, oh, yeah, no, I would never do that again.

1167
01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 2: You're gonna guess and wonder till the day I die?

1168
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:11,080
Speaker 1: Do you want to get married to him?

1169
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 2: So you know, marriage has never been high on my

1170
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:19,320
Speaker 2: list of things to do with anybody. I just don't.

1171
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 2: My trust in humans and just human beings is you know,

1172
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:34,760
Speaker 2: I can love and love and love, but I know

1173
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:40,559
Speaker 2: human nature. You know what I'm saying. And I've been

1174
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:43,720
Speaker 2: tried and tested my entire fucking life, so I don't

1175
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:47,679
Speaker 2: know if if that's what I want to do, tie

1176
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:51,240
Speaker 2: my whole everything up into somebody and finances and bake

1177
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:53,760
Speaker 2: accounts and homes and this and that, and then when

1178
01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 2: it goes left, then you gotta It's so easy to

1179
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 2: get married, and it's so hard to get unfucking married.

1180
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 1: Who want to do that? Not me?

1181
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:04,760
Speaker 2: I'm cool. We can, we can have we can be

1182
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:07,800
Speaker 2: life partners or whatever you want to call it. And

1183
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:11,800
Speaker 2: if I or he decides to go their way or

1184
01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:14,920
Speaker 2: do whatever else, then we just gonna do that. I

1185
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:16,519
Speaker 2: don't have to have a piece of paper to to,

1186
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 2: you know, or go stand in front of a judge

1187
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 2: or whatever. I don't have to do all that.

1188
01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:25,880
Speaker 1: I agreed, don't do it. I'm proud of you for

1189
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:30,120
Speaker 1: not even trying to promote your relationship absolutely even so

1190
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 1: stick with that to my questions, all you got to run.

1191
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:40,280
Speaker 1: But obviously you know recent news have been released where

1192
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:47,200
Speaker 1: Basketball Wives is not returning anymore. Chaotic recently did a

1193
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:51,240
Speaker 1: post saying he's her from a very reliable source that

1194
01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:54,400
Speaker 1: Love and Hip Hop is going to be canceled Miami

1195
01:11:54,479 --> 01:12:02,439
Speaker 1: and Atlanta. Wow. He said that yesterday on Live. You

1196
01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:07,760
Speaker 1: are the architect of that franchise. And even when I

1197
01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:11,639
Speaker 1: interviewed Kirk and Rashida, they still they said, let's be clear,

1198
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:15,840
Speaker 1: it was the Stevie, Me Me Jos Lene show, and

1199
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 1: we all but just a part of it. You know

1200
01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:22,360
Speaker 1: when you look at the show, now, what do you

1201
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:23,360
Speaker 1: think about this legacy?

1202
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:28,080
Speaker 2: So you know I never watched, right, No, I never

1203
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:31,080
Speaker 2: watched Carlos. I think I saw the first season and

1204
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:37,880
Speaker 2: I was so tormented and traumatized by what I saw.

1205
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:41,680
Speaker 2: I was like, I can't watch this, and I never

1206
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:45,320
Speaker 2: watched it again. Even and all the reunions, I'm like,

1207
01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:48,200
Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on, Like they would have to,

1208
01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:49,760
Speaker 2: you know, of course they give us the thing to

1209
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:52,680
Speaker 2: get yourself, but I really didn't know what was going on.

1210
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 2: If I didn't film it, I had no clue what

1211
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:59,000
Speaker 2: the fuck was happening because I had to keep my sanity.

1212
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:02,360
Speaker 2: You know, I'm finding out my best friend is talking

1213
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:04,720
Speaker 2: shit about me to this one and that I was like,

1214
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:08,880
Speaker 2: I can't watch this, so I stopped watching it after

1215
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 2: the first season. I was like, this is too much.

1216
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:13,000
Speaker 2: I never watched, so I don't really know what's going

1217
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:17,760
Speaker 2: on like nowadays unless people tell me or I might

1218
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:20,599
Speaker 2: see clips on social media, a clip here and there,

1219
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:23,080
Speaker 2: but like to just know, oh this is happening, I

1220
01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:26,840
Speaker 2: don't know. I have to ask somebody, now what's going on? Yeah,

1221
01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:27,439
Speaker 2: I don't watch.

1222
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:30,640
Speaker 1: So you have no idea what's going on? No, what

1223
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:38,600
Speaker 1: advice would you give reality girlies about, you know, financially

1224
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:43,560
Speaker 1: setting herself up because at one one day it is

1225
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:44,280
Speaker 1: going to end.

1226
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:49,960
Speaker 2: Yes, you have for though, Always have something on the side,

1227
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:55,120
Speaker 2: Have a product to sell, have something, especially while you're

1228
01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 2: on the show, while you're on TV and you're hot

1229
01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:02,280
Speaker 2: and you're popping capitalized off of that. Use that as

1230
01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 2: a stepping stone to create a business or whatever else

1231
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:07,840
Speaker 2: it is that you want to do. So when this

1232
01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:11,080
Speaker 2: is over, you have something to fall back on. Because

1233
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:13,840
Speaker 2: when it's done, it's done. There's no more checks coming in.

1234
01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 2: It's done. Your notoriety is going to fizzle out unless

1235
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:22,040
Speaker 2: you were just hot, hot hot, So always have a

1236
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:26,000
Speaker 2: plan B and always make sure you have somebody looking

1237
01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:26,759
Speaker 2: over your contract.

1238
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:33,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, A good lawyer, A good lawyer. My last

1239
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:36,240
Speaker 1: question for you is obviously, you know we talked earlier

1240
01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:37,880
Speaker 1: about you know, you've been in the business for a

1241
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:41,519
Speaker 1: very long time. We see what's been happening with Diddie

1242
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. And I know Sarah is one

1243
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:49,160
Speaker 1: of your best friends, one of his child's mother.

1244
01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:49,439
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1245
01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:53,680
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on what's been going on with him?

1246
01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:58,439
Speaker 1: Are you surprised or do you feel like time has

1247
01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:00,800
Speaker 1: finally caught up to him?

1248
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:05,920
Speaker 2: Double edged sword there, because the things that you do

1249
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:11,400
Speaker 2: in the dark, somehow always come to the light. So

1250
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:16,160
Speaker 2: it's really crazy to me because this man is being

1251
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:19,320
Speaker 2: persecuted for being a freak. He's in jail for being

1252
01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:25,280
Speaker 2: a freak for the most part, which if people knew

1253
01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:27,960
Speaker 2: what a lot of other people were doing today bedroom,

1254
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:30,680
Speaker 2: he'd be a whole lot of people in jail, do

1255
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:33,519
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying? So, yeah, he's done some

1256
01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:42,200
Speaker 2: really bad, terrible things. Should it be a regal case?

1257
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:47,920
Speaker 2: I think that's a stretch. Yeah, it's just it's a

1258
01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:54,240
Speaker 2: it's a weird I honestly believe they tried to they

1259
01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:57,439
Speaker 2: felt like he was too big for his breeches, for

1260
01:15:57,640 --> 01:15:59,639
Speaker 2: lack of better words, and they were like, we're gonna

1261
01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:03,200
Speaker 2: show you that you can be knocked down and put

1262
01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:06,320
Speaker 2: in your place there and there you have it.

1263
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:10,840
Speaker 1: Did you know that you know he was abusive to women?

1264
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:16,240
Speaker 2: Yes, I well I hadn't seen it, but I had

1265
01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:20,280
Speaker 2: heard stories about it. I heard stories about it.

1266
01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:25,800
Speaker 1: Yes, did you watch the Cassie video?

1267
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:34,280
Speaker 2: Yes, will be horrible, horrible, like horrible on every sense

1268
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:39,800
Speaker 2: of the word. Yeah, there was no There was no

1269
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:41,719
Speaker 2: words for that, Like my mouth was on the floor,

1270
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:44,080
Speaker 2: like what the fuck horrible?

1271
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:48,840
Speaker 1: When you would be around him, would you see anything

1272
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:51,640
Speaker 1: sinister or feel of senator energy or was he just

1273
01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 1: like everybody else in the industry.

1274
01:16:53,280 --> 01:17:01,519
Speaker 2: No, he definitely has a power air about him or

1275
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:07,639
Speaker 2: needed to be in control. Would he would belittle people

1276
01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:11,240
Speaker 2: in his tone and things of that nature? I saw it.

1277
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:15,080
Speaker 2: I saw it. We didn't really get along the best.

1278
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:16,120
Speaker 1: Why not?

1279
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:21,000
Speaker 2: He's a dickhead, an asshole?

1280
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 1: And you would because I know your mouth, and you would,

1281
01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:25,120
Speaker 1: you would say how you.

1282
01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:30,320
Speaker 2: Felt he's an asshole bottom line, like he wasn't the

1283
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:34,600
Speaker 2: fluffiest person. Let's be let's be clear, he wasn't He

1284
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:38,559
Speaker 2: wasn't no fluffy type dude. He was a fucking asshole.

1285
01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:43,120
Speaker 2: Would you tell Stevie like, why are you like friends

1286
01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:43,479
Speaker 2: with home?

1287
01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:43,880
Speaker 1: Ay?

1288
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:49,160
Speaker 2: That's a grown ass man. And I'd be like, Hey,

1289
01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:52,800
Speaker 2: you're grown ass man. You make grown ass man decisions.

1290
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:56,920
Speaker 2: But that's your homeboy. That's your homeboy. So that I could,

1291
01:17:57,520 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 2: you know, that's on that's you got that.

1292
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:06,080
Speaker 1: But and how is Sarah doing?

1293
01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:11,560
Speaker 2: She's good, yeah, you know throughout it all, her and

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Speaker 2: chants are good. You know, therapy of course is needed

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Speaker 2: and it's going to take time. That was a that

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Speaker 2: was very traumatic to go through that, to see your

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Speaker 2: dad and you know, your kid's father having to go

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Speaker 2: through that is a lot. No matter how much of

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Speaker 2: an assholely is, that's still a chances dad, that's still

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Speaker 2: Sarah's you know, daughter's father. So it was a lot

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Speaker 2: on her, on them, you know, collectively. But you know,

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Speaker 2: she's a strong woman and she's you know, had to

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Speaker 2: hold it together, not just for her, but for her,

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Speaker 2: for the twins, for chance, you know, Kim's not here anymore.

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Speaker 2: There was a lot. That's a That situation was heavy, heavy, heavy,

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Speaker 2: very heavy. It's a lot. People don't know too. People

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Speaker 2: know what the media shows. There's a whole lot of

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Speaker 2: behind the scenes stuff that people don't know that went

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Speaker 2: on that was very you know it is That's a

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Speaker 2: that was a heavy situation. And I'm going to say that.

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Speaker 1: Do you feel like more men are going to be

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Speaker 1: shown about things they did in the past? Is going

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Speaker 1: to come to light based on like some of the

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Speaker 1: things that you may have you may know about have seen.

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Speaker 1: Do you think things are.

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Speaker 2: Coming to light now daily? Look at like what's happening

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Speaker 2: with these Epstein files and names are getting released? Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: things are coming to the light. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if this is the year of exposed exposure.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what, but yeah, just let's sit back

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Speaker 2: because things are bubbling. M yeah yeah in real life.

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Speaker 1: What it is, no, it really is really is. Well look, listen,

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Speaker 1: I can thank you enough for this. This has been

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Speaker 1: long overdue. I am so proud of you. Listen, the

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Speaker 1: woman who you were and the woman you are. You

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Speaker 1: are still my sweet potty mouth baby, okay. And I

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Speaker 1: love the fact that you have not allowed this industry

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Speaker 1: to change you. I mean, and I think a lot

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Speaker 1: of it have to do with because you and Claudia

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01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:39,840
Speaker 1: are the same in the sense of y'all been around

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01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:42,160
Speaker 1: this industry for so long that I do feel like

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Speaker 1: the reality thing y'all. Never let that phase, y'all because

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Speaker 1: y'all already it wasn't new. Like some of the girls

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Speaker 1: is their first taste at at it and they don't

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Speaker 1: know how to handle it. And I think with you,

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Speaker 1: I love the fact that you have remained this woman

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Speaker 1: who still has, you know, sweet calming spirit. And I'll

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Speaker 1: just come up be more proud of you, Thank you early,

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Speaker 1: and make sure to tell them again about older Mamy

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Speaker 1: skin and where they can get it.

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Speaker 2: Yes, So my new product line, I have a skincare

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Speaker 2: line called Olu Raimi Skin. It's face washed, toner and

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Speaker 2: moisturizer and you can find it online at oluraimiskin dot com.

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Speaker 2: That's O L R E M I s ki n

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Speaker 2: dot com. And you're going to love it. I want

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Speaker 2: to say one more thing, yes about my moisturizer, because

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Speaker 2: it's fantastic. Okay, So my moisturizer has a special ingredient

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Speaker 2: in it called palm kernel oil. Have you ever heard

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Speaker 2: of an African using sunscreen?

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Speaker 1: No?

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01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:47,120
Speaker 2: Right, that's an American thing. That's what we use over

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Speaker 2: here to oh you need sunscreen, you need sunscreen. Well

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Speaker 2: over in Africa, they have cultivated something called palm kernel

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Speaker 2: oil that they've been using for thousands and thousands of years.

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Speaker 2: That's what they put on their skin on their face

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Speaker 2: to you know, keep the pores minimized and hydrate, and

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Speaker 2: you know, it's also a sun barrier. It just has

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Speaker 2: so many properties in it that are so amazing. So

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Speaker 2: when people say what sets your you know, what makes

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Speaker 2: your stuff different than I have this one ingredient in

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Speaker 2: my moisturizer that sets my stuff apart from most of

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Speaker 2: the stuff that's on the market. And I can't wait

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Speaker 2: for you to try that glow. It's going to give

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Speaker 2: you that glow that you're looking for. It's palm kernel oil, baby.

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Speaker 1: You Yeah, go ahead, y'all, bet you, y'all get that

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Speaker 1: right now? All right? Love you, Me, Me, I Love you,

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Reality with the King is executive produced by

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Speaker 1: me Carlos King, produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership

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Speaker 1: with the Lack of Effect Network. You can also find

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Speaker 1: us on my YouTube channel at the Carlos King Underscore