1 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: A true pro and that only begins to describe Kalis 2 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: Campbell God Danny Sirek also a true pro with me 3 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: Bird Gang on the field, Off the field, Kalais makes 4 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 1: an impact, but for how much longer? Plus the battle 5 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: within the battle on Sunday, and yes, it wouldn't be 6 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 1: a Wednesday without injury updates. It's Cardinals Cover two, episode 7 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: nine sixty six and it starts now. 8 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 9 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: Poona Baker, What Heart? What rent? This guy's unbelievable. 10 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 11 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcast. Visit Azycardinals 12 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 2: dot com Slash podcast. 13 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 3: Right up the five hit to the ends. 14 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: Up for the Cardinal touchdown. Drey McBride, he's been an 15 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: absolute monster. 16 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 2: Here's Craig Grioler. 17 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: So first things first, Bird Gang, Happy New Year. And 18 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: I don't know about you, Danny, but I am long 19 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: past trying to stay a stay up past midnight to 20 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: see the ball drop, unless, of course you're watching it 21 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: on live and in Arizona it drops at ten o'clock. 22 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 4: I could stay up till midnight. I just think New 23 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 4: Year's Eve is very overrated. 24 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: It has become that as I have gotten older. Once 25 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: upon a time, yes I did go out, but it's 26 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: been a long Unless. 27 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 4: It's right, like a house party, you're going to know, 28 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 4: everyone have a good like I have no desire to 29 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 4: go out and pay one hundred dollars cover two hundred 30 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 4: dollars for drinks when it's all said and done. I 31 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 4: don't like driving. I don't trust anyone else driving. There's 32 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 4: just so many things where it's just hey. And it's 33 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 4: also a work night, so yes, it is for us, 34 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 4: at least for most of the country. No, but for us, yes. 35 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: And that's the thing that I'll just shout out my 36 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: family because sometimes they forget when it comes to the 37 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: holidays that hey, there's a game on Sunday, it's still 38 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: a work week. 39 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 3: Maybe you have the day off for part of the day. 40 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: But I can't just go fly up, fly back. 41 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 3: Plus that costs money too as well. Yeah, So all right, Well. 42 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: Hope everyone has a good night whatever you decide to do. 43 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: But first things first, make sure you stay safe. All right, 44 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 1: let's get into the main topic of discussion here on 45 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 1: this Wednesday, Because I do have a new year's resolution, 46 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: and that is to be more like Kalays Campbell on 47 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: the field off the field, just an all around great 48 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 1: person first of all, and then an outstanding player not 49 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: just this season, but throughout his entire career and someone 50 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: that potentially could be suiting up regardless of what uniform, 51 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: suiting up for the last time on Sunday for the 52 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals and maybe period. 53 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 4: Crazy thirty nine years old, eighteenth season. Only two defensive 54 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 4: linemen in the history of the NFL have played more 55 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 4: games than Kalais Campbell. That's incredible. First and foremost on 56 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 4: its own is the longevity the availability Campbell has had, 57 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 4: especially someone who's playing in the trenches, the line of scrimmage, 58 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 4: very physical down there. And then you look at the leader. 59 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 4: He is the person he is in the locker room, 60 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 4: on and off the field, and there really is no 61 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 4: better example than him on how to have a long, 62 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 4: successful career yes on the field. NFL twenty tens All 63 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 4: Decade Team, Multi year Pro Bowler, First Team All Pro. 64 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 4: He was also the Walter Payton Man of the Year winner, 65 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 4: not just for the club, the entire NFL. That is 66 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 4: just an absolute leader and mentor and someone to look 67 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 4: up to and many different areas for people who don't 68 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 4: play football, for people in the locker room, regardless of 69 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 4: Gray Rattan in their career, if it is the end 70 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 4: for number ninety three, what a great career. And I 71 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 4: love the fact that it was important for Campbell to 72 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 4: come back near the end of his career to Arizona, 73 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 4: the team that drafted him. This was his tenth total 74 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 4: season with the Cardinals and to have that homecoming for 75 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 4: him and for the fans, which he told me this year, 76 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 4: more so than any other year in his career, he 77 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 4: could feel the love from the red seat, which is 78 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 4: pretty telling. I think that's a great storyline as well 79 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 4: as somebody who recognized all of that. And it was 80 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 4: also the right fit for him, but to come back 81 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 4: to the team that drafted him. 82 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 1: Darren Urban's got a great article up on Asycardinals dot com. 83 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: You Danny sat down with Kalais for this week's season 84 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 1: finale sideline exchange. But going back to the numbers, because 85 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 1: I do think it's important that on Sunday Kalais will 86 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: start his seventeenth game. So he has start. He hasn't 87 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 1: just played, he has started all seventeen games, and he's 88 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: done that in each of the past three seasons. Someone 89 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: you brought it up. Thirty nine plays not just on 90 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 1: the defensive line, but the interior of the defensive line. 91 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: That is not just one body that has several bodies 92 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 1: banging into you for sixty minutes and then all of 93 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: a sudden, you got to do it again the next 94 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 1: week and the next week after that. I can't say 95 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: enough about what Klais has done to make himself available 96 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: and be that example, specifically for a Darius Robinson. This 97 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: is what it takes to be a professional. This is 98 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 1: what it takes to be available on Sundays, and then 99 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: you're available. Okay, now you gotta go and produce. 100 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 4: Part of the reason it was a good fit on 101 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 4: both ends bringing Campbell back was that the defensive front 102 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 4: uses a rotation. Campbell's not going to play fifty snaps 103 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 4: a game. He said that to me going into the season. 104 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 4: He knows where he's capped, closer to that high twenties, 105 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 4: low thirties range, because he wants to go out there 106 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 4: and he wants to make an impact. They also wouldn't 107 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 4: have brought Campbell back if he couldn't have played at 108 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 4: the high level he's been and late in the year. 109 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 4: It's one thing when you're as healthy as you'll be 110 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 4: all year. Week one, right, the first couple of weeks, 111 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 4: we saw Campbell make some splash plays. He had the 112 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:22,119 Speaker 4: safety in San Francisco. But the fact that last week, 113 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 4: week seventeen, a crucial third down sack came from Campbell, 114 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 4: that's impressive at this point of the year. I mean, 115 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 4: he's got six and a half sacks, nine tackles for loss, 116 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 4: two blocked kicks. He's not just out here. And it's 117 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 4: a great story because kalays Campbell is coming back to 118 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 4: Arizona and everybody loves him, and this is where he's 119 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:45,679 Speaker 4: gonna wrap up his career where he started. He's making 120 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 4: plays now that opens up a different can of worms 121 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 4: of probably don't want the thirty nine year old being 122 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 4: your most disruptive on the defensive line, but we'll take it. 123 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: I wrote down six and a half sacks, second most 124 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: on the team, which is both good and bad because 125 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 1: you put it. You pointed out, yeah, good because he's 126 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: still producing. But when you're not playing a ton, you 127 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: would hope that there are others around him that are 128 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: kind of picking up the slack. But going back to 129 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: when this was announced in the offseason, You're right, this 130 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: wasn't a feel good honorary signing. You do that for 131 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: a one day contract. NFL teams can't afford to give 132 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: up a roster spot just to make a good story happen. 133 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: And the fact that Kalais still is playing almost almost 134 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: half the snaps, it's about little under fifty percent, plus 135 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: he's playing on special teams. So yeah, credit to the 136 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: big man as far as what he has done on 137 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:48,239 Speaker 1: the field. And now the question is, well, first there's 138 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: is this going to be it for him? And I 139 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: know in the article that Darren wrote that it's a 140 00:07:56,480 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 1: process for Kalais. Okay, the season ends, how does my 141 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: body feel? And then how do I recover? And then 142 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: at some point is there that itch and desire to 143 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: do it all over again, because it's not just I 144 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: want to play. One, there's family considerations. Two, does the 145 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: Cardinals want him back? Is there another team that would 146 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: like to sign him? And then it's the sacrifice to 147 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: get your body ready each and every day to be 148 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: healthy enough on a Sunday and for class he'll be 149 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: forty at the start of next season, takes a little 150 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 1: bit longer to get the body right or feeling I 151 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: wouldn't say good, but feeling good enough to be able 152 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: to be on the field on a Sunday. 153 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 4: He told both Darren and myself that it's not a 154 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 4: decision that's going to be made on Monday, the first 155 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 4: day after the season ends, first day he's a free agent. 156 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 4: It's going to take him a little bit of time now. 157 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 4: He said to Darren that it's not going to take 158 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 4: him a long time, right. It's something he's gonna prioritize 159 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 4: on getting that decision, but he's going to need time 160 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 4: for his body first and foremost to heal and kind 161 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 4: of see where he's out after that and then go 162 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 4: and make the decision. It's not just suiting up seventeen 163 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 4: times a year training camp practices. It's a grueling off season. 164 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 4: That's a grueling off season for a very large human 165 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 4: to be in a physical sport and play a very 166 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 4: physical position at the line of scrimmage. So that's a 167 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 4: lot of health factors going into it. He's got young 168 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 4: kids and he's married, so this isn't just a decision 169 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 4: where it's just Campbell on his own. This is a 170 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 4: family decision and at this point in his life, and 171 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 4: someone like that who has played the game as long 172 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 4: as he has is never going to lose his love 173 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 4: for the game, right you know, Campbell's never going to 174 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 4: lose the desire to play. It's a matter of can 175 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 4: he and can he play at a level consistently that 176 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 4: he wants to. Campbell told me he doesn't want to 177 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 4: be in a situation where somebody else is making that 178 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 4: choice for him. If it's his time to be done playing, 179 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 4: he wants to have the autonomy to walk away. So 180 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 4: that's that's a lot to weigh on you in a 181 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 4: big decision to make, especially whether or not it's Arizona, 182 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 4: right Like, Okay, that's that's another moving for your family, 183 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 4: right like another time you're moving. So there's there's a 184 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 4: lot of factors that go into it, but it's definitely 185 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 4: something we're going to keep our eye on, that's for sure. 186 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: Personally, I'd love to see him one back, especially because 187 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: of what he has meant for us the content team, 188 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: and then for those guys in the locker room, because 189 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: class is the perfect example for not just young players, 190 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: but even guys who've been in the league a long 191 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 1: time to understand again what it takes to be a 192 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: professional and a successful professional. If it is it for class, 193 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 1: then the question becomes, okay, five years from now, Hall 194 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: of Fame does that come knocking on his door? Because 195 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: there are numbers based off longevity, but it's what you 196 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: do when you're on the field during those years that 197 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: you have played. And I do think that they're enough 198 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: of those numbers, meaning Pro Bowls, all Pros, and then 199 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 1: you look at categories where you rank or a company 200 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: that you keep. One of the notes in this week's 201 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: game Notes was that kalais this is year fifteen or 202 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: his fifteenth season with five or more sacks, So that's consistency. Well, 203 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: only four players four other players have accomplished that, or 204 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: he's one of four Bruce Smith, Julius Peppers, and Reggie White. Again, 205 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: hall of Fame company that Kalaiis is keeping. He might 206 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: not be a first ballot, might not be a second, 207 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,839 Speaker 1: but the longevity and the fact that he has been 208 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: a consistent performer since day one, I think gives him 209 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 1: a excellent case to be enshrined in Canton at some point. 210 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 4: I agree. I also agree it's too soon to say 211 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 4: first or second ballot. That position is one of a 212 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 4: few words. It's tough to kind of have the same 213 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 4: argument that you would under a general umbrella for Hall 214 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 4: of Fame. It's not a quarterback, it's not a receiver 215 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 4: or running back. This isn't a pass rusher out on 216 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 4: the edge. This is someone who's playing more interior and 217 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 4: has kind of moved around in those spots in his career. 218 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 4: So the numbers one, they are there consistently, but but 219 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 4: it's a little bit of a different scale for that 220 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 4: part of the defense specifically. I agree though, when you 221 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 4: look at the numbers and you look at how he's 222 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 4: performed consistently over almost two decades. I mean the twenty 223 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 4: tens All Decades team, he was an All Pro, the 224 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 4: stuff he did off the field, I think all of 225 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 4: that comes into consideration, and I think he has if 226 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 4: this is the end, I think he's made a good 227 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 4: push and a good argument to earn a gold jacket. 228 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: And I think longevity does factor in, and it should 229 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: be a high factor as far as the list when 230 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: you talk about because there's the impact that you make 231 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: in a short amount of time. Okay, Hall of Fame 232 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: career based off five, six, seven seasons and then there's okay, 233 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: well you're doing it at a high level for almost 234 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: two decades. That's that's unheard of. So that should be 235 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: not a knock on you because it allowed you to 236 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 1: accumulate stats. No, I was good enough to be one 237 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: of fifty three on a roster for eighteen seasons. That 238 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: should scream Hall of fame. 239 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 3: At least it does to me. 240 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: Maybe we're a little biased, but again, Klays Campbell is 241 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: not only a great player, but a great person first 242 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: and foremost, and that I think should be celebrated and 243 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,559 Speaker 1: again a perfect example for not just players in the 244 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: locker room, but I think for others cardinal fans. 245 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 4: And even if that doesn't go into to play with 246 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame of what kind of person he was, 247 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 4: it sure as heck goes into play when you're talking 248 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 4: about Ring of honor. 249 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: Absolutely, oh, there is no doubt about it. And that 250 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: doesn't happen. 251 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 4: To wait the first ballot. 252 00:13:58,480 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 3: That doesn't have. 253 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: To wait five years. That could be next season or 254 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: the season after that, whenever Khalais decides to call it quits. 255 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 4: We got to get through Larry Fitzgerald first, that. 256 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: Should happen, should have already happened Fits, But hey, okay, 257 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 1: we'll wait until that's fine. So twenty twenty six can 258 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: be Fits, twenty twenty seven can be Kaalais. But yeah, 259 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: there's no doubt that Kalais is Ring of Honor material. 260 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 4: And if there was any hesitation or question before this season, 261 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 4: Campbell one coming back and two being as effective as 262 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 4: he was on the field. 263 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: Solidifies that, no question. Having a great statistical season, and 264 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: then we talk about being available on Sundays. Clayis has 265 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: also been available to the media, which this season Danny 266 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: has not always been easy, whether it's postgame after a 267 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: loss Monday where you're looking for the next day story, 268 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: and I think Clais should be he should be singled 269 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: out for that. There's a couple other guys in that 270 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: locker room that have been those quote unquote good guys. 271 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: In fact, earlier on Wednesday, the good Guy Award as 272 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: far as who's been the best at dealing with the 273 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: media was handed out and it was Paris Johnson Junior 274 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: who received that award, someone that absolutely has been there 275 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: every single time, whether it was postgame or that first 276 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: practice on a Wednesday, standing in front of his locker 277 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: and almost waiting for reporters to approach him because understanding 278 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: the story of that particular Sunday or the upcoming game, 279 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: and then understanding that we all have jobs to do 280 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: and the storyline this season has not been easy, but 281 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: Paris has been there each and every week. 282 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 4: That's an award voted on by the media the Pro 283 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 4: Football Writers' Association. Nobody knows better than those people how 284 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 4: available Paris Johntson Junior has been. And to that point, 285 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 4: he hasn't just been available, He's been honest when speaking 286 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 4: with the media. There's a lot of players and I'm 287 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 4: not just singling out this locker room. I'm just saying 288 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 4: in general, across the league, there are a lot of 289 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 4: players who are willing to stand in front of their 290 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 4: locker during the week, post game on the road or 291 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 4: at home in the locker room after a win and 292 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 4: talk about the great things they did, talk about where 293 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 4: they want to improve. That's that's the easy part of 294 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 4: the job. There are very few players who are willing 295 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 4: to do that and willing to do it with respect 296 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 4: and respect, respect not just for the media, but for 297 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 4: themselves and the players on the team. After a loss, 298 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 4: and in some cases this year after some lopsided losses, 299 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 4: and Johnson has consistently been a representative of this team. 300 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 4: He's been honest and that goes a long way. That 301 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 4: is so telling of who he is growing into as 302 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 4: a leader. 303 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 2: Now. 304 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 4: When Johnson came in, I mean, he was good with 305 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 4: the media as rookie, and that was a more veteran 306 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 4: heavy offensive line room. I mean he was learning behind 307 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 4: DJ Humphries. Right, you want to talk about someone who's 308 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 4: great with the media, That's what DJ was. So Johnson's 309 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 4: always had that quality, but the fact that he has 310 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 4: really grown into it, understanding he is the pillar of 311 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 4: this offensive line. He's working hard to be the franchise 312 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 4: left tackle and to get that contract, and he understands 313 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:31,679 Speaker 4: that and this is part of the job. And I 314 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 4: appreciate that. One he's doing it, and two he's not 315 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:37,719 Speaker 4: just doing it to say he is. But he's handling 316 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 4: the media and the questions, especially around a season like this, 317 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 4: with a lot of grace and honesty. 318 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: It's easy to make yourself available when things are going well, 319 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: much more difficult when you have to answer tough, poignant 320 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: questions because again, the media conduit to the fans, Hey, 321 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: this is what's happening, this is what's going on, and 322 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: this is what is going on behind the scenes as 323 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: far as trying to correct things and specifically this season 324 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: to get past a three and thirteen record. Whatever happens 325 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: on Sunday, And that was asked of Paris and he 326 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,679 Speaker 1: believes and Trey McBride, who won MVP honors, will get 327 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: to him in a moment, but both were adamant that 328 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: the right guys are in that locker room to help 329 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: get this get this thing right. As far as you're 330 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 1: talking about there are certain players, certain positions that you need, 331 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: and left tackle is one of the more high profile 332 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 1: positions that you hope to have solidified and don't have 333 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 1: a question with, and then there are others that, yeah, 334 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: you need to figure out, and that's what this offseason 335 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 1: is going to be about. But Paris believes this team 336 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: is headed in the right direction as far as the talent. Now, 337 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:52,239 Speaker 1: would you have liked to have seen it happen in 338 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: year two or year three and not wait until year four, Absolutely, 339 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: but this is where you're at, So how do you 340 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: improve upon your situation? And I think that's the mindset 341 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: that a lot of those players have in that locker room. 342 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 4: You don't have any other option. 343 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 3: Well, that is true as well. 344 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 4: I'm mean, look at you got three wins. There was 345 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 4: really no other option than saying, yeah, you gotta put 346 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 4: your head down. You got to figure out solutions this offseason. 347 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:18,719 Speaker 1: Also the first time we've had a chance to hear 348 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: from Paris since he hurt his knee against the Rams 349 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: in Week fourteen, and you could tell he was still 350 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: favoring the leg just a little bit, but he promised 351 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 1: to be back even stronger. And again, this is the 352 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: second straight year in which your knee injury has cut 353 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 1: his season short. But again it goes back to our 354 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: conversation about Kalais Campbell. Are you available? And more times 355 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: than not, Paris has, but can you finish the season 356 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: on the field as opposed to being a spectator? And 357 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,719 Speaker 1: I think just listening to Paris and some of the responses, 358 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 1: it wears on him that he's not on the field 359 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: with his teammates, even though he's trying to encourage and 360 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: be a motivator on the sidelines. But even he mentioned 361 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: it's difficult to hear that from someone who's in street 362 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: clothes versus someone who's standing next to you in uniform. 363 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: And that's I think what all players want is to 364 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 1: have that ability to say I played forget starting, I 365 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 1: play at all seventeen games. 366 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 4: Also tough when you're in street clothes and this team 367 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 4: is performing the way they are. That's hard mentally of 368 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 4: you want to go out there and you want to 369 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 4: help your team turn things around when things aren't going 370 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 4: great and you can't. Availability is the best ability. You 371 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 4: can be a really great player, but it's hard to 372 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 4: make an impact if you're not healthy. 373 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 1: Consistently on that subject, some injury updates from the head 374 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: coach on Wednesday. Jonathan Gannon has already here. On Wednesday 375 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: rolled out Marvin Harrison Junior and Keaton Crawford. Harrison dealing 376 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: with that foot issue. It is the different it. He's 377 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,479 Speaker 1: got a heel and a foot issue. The heel is 378 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: the right foot and no excuse me, yeah, the heel 379 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: is the right foot and just the foot injury is 380 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 1: the left foot. In fact, he was spotted in the 381 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: locker room in a walking boot talking about Marvin, so 382 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 1: he is not going to play on Sunday. Keaton Crawford 383 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 1: dealing with an ankle issue, and then updates on Garrett 384 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: Williams and Walter Nolan. Williams underwent a surgery to repair 385 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 1: his achilles and Nolan underwent knee surgery. Yes, there was 386 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: a fall up. Is it a torn ecl? And all JG. 387 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: Says was it's a knee and wouldn't offer any more 388 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 1: than that quote out of the respect for the player. 389 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 1: But still, when you're talking about those two guys injuries 390 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: that you hope don't linger too far into twenty twenty six, 391 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: they will. It's just a matter of how far into 392 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six to where, Hey, is this September or 393 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 1: is this more you're talking about earlier in the offseason. 394 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 4: I'd be shocked, especially with Kara. Yes, Look, if we've 395 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 4: learned anything from Bajajalari's story of hurting his ACL training 396 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 4: camp last year, missing all of last season and not 397 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 4: really getting answers from anybody on why he wasn't hitting 398 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 4: that quote unquote typical nine to ten month mark. Well, 399 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 4: then we learned later from Ojelari he didn't just tear 400 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 4: his ACL, there were two or three other ligaments and 401 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 4: his knee was not responding well at a time, and 402 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,719 Speaker 4: he had to go get something cleaned up. Like every 403 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 4: injury and every recovery is truly unique and different. That 404 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 4: being said, a typical Achilles injury and recovery it's not 405 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 4: nine months, Craig. So when it comes to Garret Williams, 406 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:44,959 Speaker 4: like the unfortunate mindset I have is I wouldn't be 407 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 4: surprised if the earliest we would see him next year 408 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 4: would be maybe December, just to get back and practice 409 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 4: for a bit, maybe November. I mean, that's so early. 410 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 4: He literally just had surgery. But I'm not sitting here 411 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 4: with any glimb of hope of oh, let's see if 412 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 4: he could be ready to go. You also don't want 413 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 4: to push a player BA back, especially a player who's 414 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:10,199 Speaker 4: been prone to injury, back sooner than they're ready. Now, Waltern, 415 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 4: Olan's a question mark because we don't know now Again, 416 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 4: if you want to go based off what's typical to 417 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 4: get that kind of surgery, yes, it is usually more 418 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 4: so acl as opposed to a meniscus or something that 419 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 4: is deemed maybe not as intense. That's also not a 420 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 4: quick recovery, So that'll be something that I'll be curious 421 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 4: when he's able to come back that's again that's I 422 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 4: don't know that September is realistic. It's just too soon 423 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 4: to say. And I'd expect both. 424 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: Those to linger and at further clouds roster building for 425 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: next season. Along the defensive line, who can you count on? 426 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 1: And then in the secondary again, who can you count on? 427 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: And before those two players suffer their injuries? Yeah, absolutely, 428 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: Garrett Williams number one corner Walter Nolan and we talked 429 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 1: about it here on Cardinals Cover two. Small sample size, 430 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: but certainly look like your best defensive lineman on the roster, 431 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 1: no doubt. I mean just the splash plays, the impact 432 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: plays that Walter was making on a seemingly routine basis 433 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: in the number of games that he played, as far 434 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 1: as getting offenses off the field or a tackle for 435 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: a loss or a sack or a pass defense. And 436 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: then what Walter was able to do to help others 437 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 1: Josh Sweat, as Avon Collins, a Kalais Campbell for them 438 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: to make plays because all of a sudden, offenses had 439 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: to account for Walter. Now, when can you count on 440 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 1: those two again? I think that's it's a big question. 441 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 1: We're not gonna have an answer. And when not even 442 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: have an answer at the start of training camp or 443 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: at the start of the regular season unless one of 444 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,360 Speaker 1: those two players says, here's an update, and I don't 445 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: know for I don't know if. 446 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 3: We'll get that. 447 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 4: We're ways away from that. 448 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 1: We got fast forward twenty twenty six already so. 449 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 4: Much ground to cover before we get to training camp 450 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 4: of twenty twenty six. 451 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 1: There's always something happening in the National Football League. For 452 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: the Cardinals. There is one more game to be played. 453 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: That is on Sunday in Los Angeles. 454 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 3: Danny will be there. 455 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 1: I will not, by the way, enjoy Zach Gershman on 456 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 1: this trip. 457 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 3: He will be there. 458 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 4: I'm sure he's gonna go out and hit the town. 459 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 4: That's what he's known for, right he does. 460 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 3: Have a reputation. He's gonna hate that. 461 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: This game on Sunday. Again, the Cardinals don't have anything 462 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: tangible to play for except for individual goals. Feel good 463 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: about how you feel, you know ending Michael Wilson talked 464 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: about ending the season on a positive note getting into 465 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 1: the offseason. But there is a battle within the battle 466 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,679 Speaker 1: on Sunday, and that's between Trey McBride and Pukin Nakua. 467 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: They right now are tied for the league lead in 468 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: receptions with one hundred and nineteen, So who wins the 469 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 1: receptions title? Not that you get anything out of it, 470 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 1: but it is a nice little distinction that you can 471 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,919 Speaker 1: have on your resume. Like I led the league and 472 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 1: catches in twenty twenty five. 473 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 4: I'm hoping it's McBride. 474 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: Be interesting how long Pooka plays as well, especially if 475 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: the Rams are locked into that sixth seed. 476 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 4: I mean, look, the Rams have lost to in a row, 477 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 4: and if you're going into the postseason on the road, 478 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 4: I don't blame Sean McVeigh for wanting to play his 479 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 4: starters and try and build some confidence there and kind 480 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 4: of get things back on track. I also wouldn't be 481 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 4: surprised if Matthew Stafford, Puka Nakua. I doubt DeVante Adams 482 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 4: plays as he heals up that hamstring, but I wouldn't 483 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 4: be surprised if a handful of starters play through the 484 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 4: second or third quarter, right depending on how things shake 485 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,959 Speaker 4: out or what McVeigh has seen like that also wouldn't 486 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 4: surprise me. Of there's no need to push it if 487 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 4: you already know you've got your ticket, push to the postseason. 488 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 4: I hope McBride beats out Nikua, but holy smokes, what 489 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 4: a superstar. I mean the last matchup Week fourteen against 490 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 4: the Cardinals, he had seven catches for one hundred and 491 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 4: sixty seven yards and two touchdowns. And just watching him 492 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 4: play Monday night against the Falcons, he's unstoppable. It doesn't 493 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 4: matter how good the throw is, what route has to 494 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 4: be run, where the ball is thrown on the field, 495 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 4: how many defenders he has in his way, he's coming 496 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 4: down with the ball. Really similarly to what we've seen 497 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 4: from McBride this year, I do think it's telling. McBride 498 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 4: is not just best tight end of the league. He's 499 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 4: one of the best receivers. Period. It's been since two 500 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 4: thousand and four that a tight end has led the 501 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 4: league at the end of the season in catches. That's 502 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 4: telling for a couple of reasons. One of kind of 503 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 4: where this Cardinals offense has been of the lack of 504 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,360 Speaker 4: run game, the passing attack, Marvin Harrison Junior not being 505 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 4: healthy on a consistent enough basis. But the fact that 506 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,880 Speaker 4: all those things happening tell a defense we were already 507 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 4: gonna circle eighty five, but now we're really gonna double 508 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 4: down on that, and McBride is still delivering, makes it 509 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 4: all the more impressive. 510 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 1: We talk about the company you keep, and right now, 511 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: Trey McBride Hooka Nakua tied for the most receptions in 512 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: the league. Jamar Chase has one hundred and seventeen, Jackson 513 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: Smith and Jigba has one hundred and thirteen. So you're 514 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: talking about three of the best wide receivers in the 515 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:32,919 Speaker 1: game plus Trey McBride, and you don't typically think of 516 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: Trey in that company. Yet what has Trey meant for 517 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: this Cardinals offense at least this season, maybe even last 518 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: season as well. He is up there with a number 519 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: one wide receiver. We always say number one pass catcher 520 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 1: because the offense does the passing game does go through 521 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: number eighty five within the Arizona Cardinals, and it is 522 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: You said it perfectly, Danny, because even though defenses no, 523 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: Trey is gonna get the ball, He's want to get 524 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: his targets. So let's do everything we can to limit those. 525 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: Hasn't happened, did happen against the Atlanta Falcons, But more 526 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: times than not, Trey McBride has got his catches, gets 527 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: his numbers, gets into the end zone more times than 528 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: not with the eleven touchdowns, so it's impressive. And yes, 529 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissett has at a loss sometimes to figure out 530 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: something different to say about Trey. I think we're all 531 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: at that point as well. But it's the reason why 532 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: Trey not only is among the best period pass catchers 533 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: in the league, the number one tied end and the 534 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals MVP for twenty twenty five. 535 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 4: Excited to see mcbridan. I'm excited to see Michael Wilson 536 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 4: one more game, especially with Harrison already being ruled out 537 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 4: as the number one receivers. What he's capable of doing, 538 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 4: and he had a very good game against the Rams 539 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 4: week fourteen. Eleven catches on sixteen targets for one hundred 540 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 4: and forty two yards two touchdowns. The acrobatic catches, the 541 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 4: contested catches, the catches, his balance, his footwork, and his 542 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 4: spatial awareness are on display have been so incredibly impressive. 543 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 4: As somebody who hasn't had a lot of opportunities ahead 544 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 4: of halfway pointed this year to be the X to 545 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 4: be out wide and have to win one on one 546 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,719 Speaker 4: in his routes as consistently as he has what a 547 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 4: breakout year, and really the last couple of weeks, I 548 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 4: mean he's inching towards one thousand yards receiving, which somebody 549 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 4: who was getting a few balls thrown his way early 550 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 4: in the season with Kyler Murray, with a healthy Marvin 551 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 4: Harrison Junior, with still a bit of a run game 552 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 4: but nothing substantial. The last eight weeks, Wilson's got seven 553 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,959 Speaker 4: hundred and ten of his nine hundred and seven total 554 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 4: yards and five of the six touchdowns. The way that 555 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 4: he has just exploded and taken an advantage of this 556 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 4: opportunity has been so great to see, especially the season 557 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 4: after an off season where a lot of discussion was 558 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 4: do that the Cardinals have and if they don't, do 559 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 4: they need a true number two receiver? No longer a. 560 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: Question, absolutely not that if there's one thing that you 561 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: can hang your hat on in twenty twenty five, as 562 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: far as okay, questions answered, Okay, what do we need 563 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: to do next offseason talking about this upcoming one. Yeah, 564 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: as far as wide receiver, Michael Wilson has shown he 565 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: can be that guy whether he is a one or 566 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: a two. But you need to figure out a way 567 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: to get number fourteen involved because when you throw him 568 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: the ball, he's going to catch it and he's going 569 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: to run after the catch and find his way into 570 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 1: the end zone more times than not. So and here's 571 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: where you hope that maybe there's a little bit more 572 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 1: of an emphasis on Sunday to target Michael to get 573 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,479 Speaker 1: him to that one thousand receiving yard mark, because it 574 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: is an accomplishment. And no, it's much like the Trey 575 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: McBride wreckerds that he has set in a season in 576 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: which you have just three wins. But for an individual, 577 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 1: there are certain marks. A thousand rushing yards, thousand receiving yards. 578 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 1: Those mean something to those players because it's validation for 579 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: the work that they put in not just Monday through Saturday, 580 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: but the offseason February March all the way and through 581 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 1: the summer that okay, now I'm producing, and it does 582 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: show that the sacrifice was worth it. 583 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 4: I mean, let's not ignore the elephant in the room. 584 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 4: Craig Cardinals could have the opportunity to give a contract 585 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 4: extension to Michael Wilson this offseason as well. So while 586 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 4: those hitting those numbers is a great personal accolade, and 587 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,959 Speaker 4: while numbers aren't the only reason a player gets a 588 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 4: contract extension or a new contract somewhere else. It really 589 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 4: is what are you putting on tape, especially for someone 590 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 4: like Michael Wilson, who has been their best blocking wide 591 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 4: receiver for the last few years at this point, which 592 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 4: really means a lot for how this offense is run. 593 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 4: I mean, it's also a really great case for him 594 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 4: if that's something he wants and that's something this team wants. 595 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 4: To go in and say, look what I did without 596 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 4: even a full season of getting the amount of attention 597 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 4: I was getting. That would also, I would imagine, play 598 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 4: in his favor. 599 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, there are certain benchmarks that an agent or whoever 600 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: handles contracts can say, point to, my client reached this 601 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 1: and that equates to that. 602 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 4: Sowo thousand yards receiving as a pretty big one to circle. 603 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be incredible for Michael Wilson. Certainly hope he. 604 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 3: Does get it. 605 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: And here, why not go out on a high note 606 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 1: and you know, maybe knock the Rams off the pedestal 607 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 1: a little bit and send them them into the postseason 608 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: on a three game losing streak. 609 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 4: I know that Wilson, the rest of his team wants 610 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 4: to win, and this season didn't pan out remotely close 611 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 4: to how they had expected or intended it to. But 612 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 4: if he hits that mark, what a calendar year for him? 613 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 4: He gets married, he has his first child, and then 614 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 4: you have that that would be I would imagine. I 615 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 4: can't speak for him, so I guess technically would be 616 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 4: after the new year starts, we'll just pretend that that's 617 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 4: that's still twenty twenty five season. 618 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's nicely what you're saying, it's still a twenty 619 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 1: twenty five year, because that's how we think of it. 620 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 1: We don't think of, oh, it's a game into twenty twenty. No, 621 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: that's not how Now it's the twenty twenty five season, 622 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 1: and it has been an incredible year for Michael Wilson 623 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 1: and his family. So yeah, he needs to get it. Yeah, 624 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: he needs to do it. Make sure it happens. 625 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 3: Danny. 626 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 4: I'll do my best. Say something in pre game, you 627 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 4: should really hit a thousand yards receiving. I don't know 628 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 4: if you've thought about it or have any desire, but 629 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:40,359 Speaker 4: I recommend it. 630 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,959 Speaker 1: Forget Kalaias Campbell huddling everyone up. It's gonna be Danny 631 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: Surrek down on the field, huddling everyone up or just 632 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: pulling Michael asides. 633 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 4: What y Kobe were saying to Kobe. 634 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 3: I hear you're close to one thousand. 635 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: But at the. 636 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 4: Same time, if you're not gonna throw to Wilson, throw 637 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 4: it to me, Brian, because we wanted to beat out in. 638 00:34:55,360 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 3: A kua Wilson. It's it's easy, it's easy. It's easy. 639 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:01,359 Speaker 3: Is one two? That's it all. 640 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 1: You need to focus on one too, Danny, I will 641 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: see you next year. That hasn't been used before, has it? 642 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 4: Probably not since last year on Cardinals Cover two, h. 643 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:14,839 Speaker 3: Tried to sneak one by. It didn't work. 644 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: All right, Well, you have fun whatever you decide to do, 645 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 1: and uh. 646 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:19,399 Speaker 3: I'll see you next year. 647 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:20,720 Speaker 4: I can't wait. 648 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 3: Craig, that's gonna get clipped, right, Cody, Yeah, he's nodding 649 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 3: up and down. Appreciate that. 650 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 1: On that note, we will put a lid on this 651 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 1: edition of Cardinals Cover two presented by Hyundai, proud partner 652 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks to our 653 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 1: executive producer Jim mo More our associate producer Cody Fincher 654 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 1: For Danny Sirek. I'm Praig Rayel Lou We'll talk to 655 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: you next time here on Cardinals Cover two.