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Speaker 1: Is The Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: Home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Drive. I'm Dale Lolly here with Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 1: It's Wednesday here in Pittsburgh. Steve was just played two

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Speaker 1: days ago, though they had a light practice UM Wednesday

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Speaker 1: on the south side of upmc rooney Sports Complex. It's

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Speaker 1: more like a walkthrough, which makes perfect sense. It's two

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Speaker 1: days removed from a game. You know, we're just taking easy. Typically,

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Speaker 1: you know you're you're two days after the game as

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Speaker 1: a player's day off, right right, So you know, Mike

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Speaker 1: Tom was taking it easy on his players, and it's

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Speaker 1: mid season and these guys have been beat up and physical.

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Speaker 1: It was a walkthrough type thing, so I thought today

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Speaker 1: instead of starting to break down more of this game,

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Speaker 1: and frankly, quite frankly, last week talking Bears isn't easy

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Speaker 1: compared to most weeks because they had we had so

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Speaker 1: much time to do it and they weren't a super

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Speaker 1: interesting team. Boy, I miss those days, the salad days

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Speaker 1: of I mean, the lot of d rough and we

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Speaker 1: will I will probably digging them heavy tomorrow. But boy,

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Speaker 1: the more homework I do on them. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what they're good at. It's really I was looking up

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Speaker 1: Jared Goff's numbers today. He's talked about Justin Fields last

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Speaker 1: week with eight fumbles, Golf has seven. The difference being

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Speaker 1: Fields has his eight fumbles on like seventy five opportunities,

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Speaker 1: which is rushing attempts and saxon golf, it's it's seven

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Speaker 1: fumbles on like thirty six opportunities. Like he's just coughing

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Speaker 1: the ball up left and right. That's who he had.

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Speaker 1: Like you know, Ben's a dot and things like that

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Speaker 1: are low and bad. I mean, wait till we start

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Speaker 1: breaking down golf and these guys they have a good punter,

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Speaker 1: gets a lot of work. Yeah, if your mom told

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Speaker 1: you don't say anything about people unless you can say

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Speaker 1: something nice. Well, a pretty good on special team, Like yeah,

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Speaker 1: right right, they're nice. Head coach is fun to listen

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Speaker 1: to and press conferences. Absolutely, But so instead of talking

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Speaker 1: a whole lot of Lions today, we will talk about

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Speaker 1: we'll touch on the Lions here. I wanted to go

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Speaker 1: through Cynthia. We're in mid season, so sorry, my friend

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Speaker 1: does Cynthia Freeland Um has gone through and the crunch

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Speaker 1: projected the projective win totals each NFL team. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: go through the a f C here first. I think

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Speaker 1: she did an NFC um Yeah, okay, so we'll go

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Speaker 1: through the a f C here. She has the Bills

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Speaker 1: right now, who are five and three projected out to

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Speaker 1: eleven point eight wins. This is her computer model. Okay.

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Speaker 1: We we've talked about this a lot. I mean, the

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Speaker 1: rest of the unbelievable we thought that a week age

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Speaker 1: we didn't think so. I still think it's one of

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Speaker 1: the best offenses in the league. I think it's one

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Speaker 1: of the best defenses in the league. I mean, they

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Speaker 1: still need to figure out the running games they do.

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Speaker 1: And Moss is hurt and in as good as like

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Speaker 1: Digs is, he's just okay this year, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: like he's not a dominant player and knocks his out

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Speaker 1: to him right now where he's not just happy to

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Speaker 1: right right right, you know, So they have a little

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Speaker 1: bit of work out. They probably are still the best

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Speaker 1: team in the a f C. But Tennessee is playing

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Speaker 1: well which takes us to the Titan. She's Titans projected

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Speaker 1: out there seven and two now to eleven point seven wins.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty big number. Um, But there's seven and two now,

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Speaker 1: so they got they got eight games left, so according

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Speaker 1: to her projections, they're only gonna win form. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: go four and four in the second half. I was

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Speaker 1: gonna say five and three in the second half. Right,

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Speaker 1: there's seven and two right now, And wasn't the projection

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Speaker 1: next eight. Yeah, Okay. The Ravens. Their defense is pretty

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Speaker 1: mean we had a fantasy conversation with streaming defenses and

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Speaker 1: a couple of my leagues. I'm gonna pick up Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: I mean I think they rushed the pastor I thought

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Speaker 1: current record six and two project out to eleven point

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Speaker 1: come to think of it, right, they beat the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: and we always talked about how there's an art to

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Speaker 1: They walked the very precarious line, very even that last

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Speaker 1: little bit. Now, the thing that works in their in

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Speaker 1: their favor is that, justin Tucker, as you saw in

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Speaker 1: Get the Game, the Lions gives you a better chance

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Speaker 1: I don't think anyone's done at like Tucker in the

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Speaker 1: it up with you and Labs, but I think he's

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Speaker 1: an easy Hall of Famer, and I don't say that.

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Speaker 1: I know he's labs will bite my hat off too,

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Speaker 1: But boy, I've never seen anyone nearly is good. This

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Speaker 1: one is interesting. The Los Angeles Chargers are currently five

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Speaker 1: and three according to her protection and two in the

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Speaker 1: the Eagles last week, Right, they were struggling, but they

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Speaker 1: they're next on the horizon, by the way of Steeler fan. Yes, uh,

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Speaker 1: current record five and three. They project out the ten

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know their scheduling all those things,

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Speaker 1: they are a flawed team. They really are. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think the offense has a chance to be really good,

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Speaker 1: they want to do. Yeah, it's atrocious. The Chiefs. She

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Speaker 1: has at nine point nine wins. They're five and four

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Speaker 1: bet that one was a hard projection, like, how do

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Speaker 1: Chiefs have scored forty eight points in the first quarter

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Speaker 1: which is tied for twenty seven. Makes some minus one.

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Speaker 1: You've scored forty eight points in the first quarter and

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Speaker 1: great with the Chiefs. But they turned our times that

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Speaker 1: game or you know, right, Uh, they've committed four first

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Speaker 1: they're used to playing with leads to I mean, there's

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Speaker 1: But I can't I wonder what they're um the record

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Speaker 1: the New England Patriots are next on her list, and

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Speaker 1: time points seven wins. Their current record is five and four,

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Speaker 1: second half. They stuff to play it bilst twice. Yeah, um,

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Speaker 1: Patriot battle yesterday to say they they're so good at

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Speaker 1: But she hasn't projected out the nine point seven wins,

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Speaker 1: So that's almost five more. I don't see five five.

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Speaker 1: She played the Browns this week. Like where all these

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Speaker 1: winds coming from? Right? You know? Do they I think

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Speaker 1: favored in Miami, I'm sure, but yeah, but they traditionally

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Speaker 1: Next is the Colts. Cults are four and five right now.

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Speaker 1: She has them projecting out the nine point six wins.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't sound crazy. I know there's six more, six

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Speaker 1: even Stephen as you can get. Wins Is could turn.

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Speaker 1: the worst team in that division. We've brought up the

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Speaker 1: other two. Yet San Francisco is three and five right now.

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Speaker 1: They project out to seven point six wins. I don't

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Speaker 1: know about that. That defense is not good. There's just

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Speaker 1: there's this feeling out there that this is still the

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Speaker 1: defensive It's not even close it. But two of these

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Speaker 1: going I don't think four teams from the West are

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Speaker 1: gonna go. Yeah. I don't think so either, But I

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Speaker 1: like San Francisco. I think they're better team than the Eagles. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, if they played you know, the rest of

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Speaker 1: the year, I think they'll be better. The Falcons come

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Speaker 1: in at seven point three wins, can actually get in.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they're good. They would go three and

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Speaker 1: six down the stretch if they if they according to

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Speaker 1: this projection. So I kind of like how she's looking

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Speaker 1: at this more than how a lot of people are thinking. Boy,

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Speaker 1: this is a nine win team that could be a

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Speaker 1: you know, sneak into the postseason there. I don't think

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Speaker 1: they're good enough to do that. The Carolina Panthers, who

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Speaker 1: have four their four and five right now, news too,

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Speaker 1: he's out at least a month or something. So what

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Speaker 1: maybe forever? Six point eight wins for them? The quarterback

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Speaker 1: problems too much. The rest of the team I can

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Speaker 1: live with. The old line is bad and the quarterbacks bad.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure whatever have a better chance, more mobility,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean guys like DJ Moore, I mean,

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Speaker 1: they're just again right. The Giants project out there three

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Speaker 1: and six right now to six point three wins. I

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Speaker 1: take the over there. They're getting healthy, right, yeah, I'll

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Speaker 1: take the I'll take the over on that. I'll bet

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Speaker 1: you take the over on this one to the Bears.

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Speaker 1: Three and six. Right now, they project out to five

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Speaker 1: point eight wins. Yeah, I think they get three more.

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Speaker 1: They have to have the Lions twice, at least once

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Speaker 1: they get them at least once they have bet the

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Speaker 1: Vikings right, they might be the second best team in

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Speaker 1: that division. They might be when it's said and done. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Washington currently two and six projects out to five point

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Speaker 1: two wins. Yeah. I mean, I guess they're gonna run

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Speaker 1: with heine Heineke the rest of the season. Do we

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Speaker 1: know that. I think that's true. Fits is starting to

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Speaker 1: practice soon. I think I think I play Fits. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would too. I mean, he's got to be better

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Speaker 1: than uh. And then finally you're Detroit Lions two. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna go under two oh and eight. Right now, they

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Speaker 1: project to one point four wins. Well done, Cynthia, be

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Speaker 1: like two and a half. This is the danger that

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Speaker 1: the Steelers face this week. You don't want it to

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Speaker 1: be you now they This is where I think the

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Speaker 1: game against the Bears helps them from last week. Maybe

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Speaker 1: you know, we talked about it every every time that

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Speaker 1: I found over the years, when I have a lot

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Speaker 1: of trouble coming up with storylines for a game. It's

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Speaker 1: it's these NFC games against teams you don't see a

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Speaker 1: whole lot that are bad and there's no rivalry. There's

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Speaker 1: nothing there. It's not it's not the game against the

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Speaker 1: Browns where everybody was fired up the you gotta go

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Speaker 1: into Cleveland them win, so you can kind of see

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Speaker 1: it's human nature not to not necessarily to overlook that team,

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Speaker 1: but to have the emotional left down. Sure, it's not

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Speaker 1: on Monday night, you know. I mean it's uh, it's

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Speaker 1: a one o'clock game, right, it'll be probably one of

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Speaker 1: the least view games. Maybe a thousand Steeler fans that

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Speaker 1: would have went like, oh, I'll stay home, you know,

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Speaker 1: in this gear up for the evidence have been telling you, boy,

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Speaker 1: they at second half your schedule so hard, you'll get

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Speaker 1: this win. You know, you hear these things, you know.

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Speaker 1: But they're a professional team. I mean, they could beat anybody.

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Speaker 1: And if I were Tom One, I would certainly reference

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Speaker 1: Bill's Jags. Yeah. Oh, there's there's plenty of reminders out

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Speaker 1: there that you can't take this game lightly. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: go out there and perform and uh um, you know

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Speaker 1: with the young football team. You do worry about that.

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Speaker 1: As Ben Roethlisberger said today, Um, you know all you

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Speaker 1: did would be for not if you lose. If you

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Speaker 1: got up twenty one points in a college game, it

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Speaker 1: was pretty much over. You know, in the pros, that's

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Speaker 1: not the case. No, it's not. These guys can come

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Speaker 1: back on you. They're all you know, every player out there,

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Speaker 1: even the players on Alliance look at me plays. They

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Speaker 1: each one of these guys was was the best player

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Speaker 1: on their college team or if they were, if they

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Speaker 1: weren't the best player in their college team, they were

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Speaker 1: in the top three without question. No, it's true. A

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Speaker 1: lot would have to go wrong. Yeah, but they're probably

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Speaker 1: gonna beat somebody. You don't want to be that team.

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Speaker 1: And then they've had two weeks to prepare for this too.

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Speaker 1: They've had two weeks to prepare. Yeah, they're pretty healthy

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Speaker 1: all in all. I mean, Jared GOSSI, he's a professional quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, here's another quick question. Will

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Speaker 1: he be one of the thirty two opening day starters

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Speaker 1: in two thousand two New I don't think so either.

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. Yeah, you didn't bring him up

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Speaker 1: to the Steelers trading for him. No, No, I'm good

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Speaker 1: on you like Jimmy g Better. I like Jimmy G Better.

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Speaker 1: I think you like Jimmy G Better. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: but that's a better question. Yeah, that's a that's a

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Speaker 1: difficult question, awes Um. I don't think either one or

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Speaker 1: any good I don't either, really, Yeah, especially golf. And

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Speaker 1: they've both taken teams to a super Bowl, so they're

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Speaker 1: recently recently recently. So I just think that those are

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Speaker 1: guys that everything has to be perfect around them, and

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Speaker 1: neither one of them are in a situation where there's

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Speaker 1: anything close to perfection, especially in Detroit. Yeah, you're saying

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Speaker 1: that the Lions stink? Is that what you're saying? The

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Speaker 1: Lions stink? I'd be torn of who's thirty two in

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Speaker 1: the power ranks. The more so I study them, the

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Speaker 1: more I think they're bad at everything. They're pretty bad. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break when we come back while

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Speaker 1: somebody is pretty good. That will be Bob Labriola. He'll

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Speaker 1: join us here from Steelers and Steelers dot Com. Bob

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Speaker 1: when we come back. He is Matt Williams, and I'm

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