1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: The Volume. All right, welcome to him tonight here at 2 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: the Volume. Happy Thursday, everybody. Hope all of you guys 3 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: are having a great week so far. Got a jam 4 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: pack show for you guys today. We're gonna start to 5 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: shift our coverage a little bit more towards the NBA 6 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 1: trade deadline in the next couple of weeks. And so 7 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: I've got a couple of pots planned, one today and 8 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: then another one next week that are going to focus 9 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: on each conference in the NBA and some of the 10 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: trade landscape there. So today we're gonna be focusing in 11 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 1: on the Eastern conference I've got. We're gonna be hitting 12 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: on six or seven teams today, a bunch of different 13 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: potential trade ideas within those teams, just kind of working 14 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: our way down through the standings. You guys know the joke. 15 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: Before we get started. Subscribe to the Hoops Tonight YouTube 16 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:53,959 Speaker 1: channels you don't miss any more of our videos. Make 17 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: sure you like this video. 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So if there's a trade that 23 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 1: you had in mind within the Eastern Conference that you 24 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: didn't hear me mention, or if you disagree with the 25 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 1: trade that I pitch, or anything along those lines, drop 26 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: them in the comments underneath this video and we'll get 27 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: into it in more detail tomorrow. All right, let's talk 28 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 1: some basketball. So we're gonna be working our way down 29 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: through the top, starting with the Detroit Pistons, and for them, 30 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 1: I think it's a pretty obvious need. It's scoring at 31 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: the power forward spot. We talked about this with Tobias 32 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: Harris the other day. This is a team that when 33 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: they get scoring pop out of that position, they win, 34 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 1: and when they don't, they become much more vulnerable. I 35 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 1: would also argue if they could get some help on 36 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: the defensive glass here, that would be a plus, just 37 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: because this team can struggle on the defensive glass at times. 38 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: As a team, they're eighteenth in defensive rebound percentage. And 39 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: then some shooting at the position would be helpful to 40 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: Tobias can hit shots there, but he's very streaky, not 41 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: a super high percentage guy. So twenty sixth in three 42 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: pointers made as a team eighteenth overall in three point percentage. 43 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: So there's several different directions that could go to go 44 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: in here depending on how much they want to spend. 45 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: So like, if you want to go super expensive, like 46 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: multiple draft picks and then have to tie up a 47 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: large chunk of your cap sheet moving forward, you can 48 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 1: go for a guy like Lori markin In if you 49 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: want to go super cheap and find like a big 50 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: power forward that can shoot that's not going to cost 51 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: you much, you could find a guy like Ruiy Hatchamurrow 52 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: that the Lakers are looking to trade at this deadline. 53 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: Or if you wanted to find the sweet spot in 54 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: the middle, that's where I look at a guy like 55 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: Michael Porter Junior. So my favorite trade would be the 56 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 1: Michael Porter Junior one. It'd be something like Tobias Harrison, 57 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: some filler, probably someone like Paul Reid, and a first 58 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: round pick. Then if you're Brooklyn, huge win because you've 59 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: got a first round pick trading for Michael Porter Junior 60 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: and you got another first round pick trading Michael Porter 61 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: Junior right, Detroit would get Michael Porter Junior. In this case, 62 00:02:57,960 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: mpj's made one hundred and twenty eight threes this year, 63 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 1: that's the ninth most in the entire NBA. He shoots 64 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: forty percent on them overall, forty four percent when he's 65 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: unguarded off the catch seventy two percent at the rim. 66 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: Brings real movement shooting that can help as a release 67 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: valve on offense, a second side guy that can come 68 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: off of a screen and make reads as the defense 69 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: reacts to him. And I think he's a very good 70 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: help side defender, like kind of like a secondary rim 71 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: protector that can help when your bigs end up stepping 72 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: out to the perimeter. Also a very good defensive rebounder. 73 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: I think he'd be the perfect fit in this particular instance. Again, 74 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: if you wanted to say super cheap, you could do 75 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: something like Ruey Hatchramura for Karis Lavert and Javonte Green. 76 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: Ruey's shooting forty two percent this year and catch and 77 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: shoot threes forty nine percent when he's wide open, Like 78 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: if Rui's open, that thing's going in and he would 79 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: step in and immediately be the second best shooter on 80 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: the team. So he'd help in that sense. The problem 81 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: with Ruiz he's not a great rebounder. Slash defender the 82 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: way that Michael Porter Junior is, but that that's why 83 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: he'd be cheaper, Like, you wouldn't have to give up 84 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: any sort of draft compensation in that type of deal. 85 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: And then obviously for the Lakers there you get some 86 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: perimeter athleticism in a little bit of ball handling, both 87 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: of which they could really use. An example of the 88 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: super expensive version would be the Pistons get Laurie Mark 89 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 1: and in the Jazz would have to end up taking 90 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: Tobias Harris and probably Isaiah Stewart in that case. And 91 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: then I'm thinking you're spending probably at least two first 92 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: round picks there, considering you're not giving back any sort 93 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: of talented young player, and Detroit having to pay multiple 94 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: of their talented young players for Lourie doesn't make a 95 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: ton of sense to me. So if you're gonna go 96 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: heavy on salary filler, then you got to go heavy 97 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: on draft picks, so that one could end up being 98 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 1: really expensive. Now, Laurie's an incredible player, basically just a 99 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: much better version of Michael Porter junior. I think he'd 100 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: make the Pistons amazing, but he's just so expensive. I mean, 101 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: he's making fifty three million dollars in that twenty twenty 102 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: eight twenty twenty nine campaign, and then again you're gonna 103 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 1: have to give up a lot more in the way 104 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: of young players in draft compensation. In that case, he 105 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 1: would just sivili your lis limit your flexibility as the 106 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: years go by and you have to start like extending 107 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: all of those younger players. So the Michael Porter Junior 108 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: for trade is my favorite for Detroit because it's a 109 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: legit talent play that really raises your ceiling, that addresses 110 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: some specific needs that you have, but you also have 111 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: a lot more flexibility with what to do with him 112 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: in the long run. So, for instance, he has forty 113 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: million dollars non guaranteed on his contract next season. You 114 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: can just guarantee that, or you can use it as 115 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,679 Speaker 1: leverage to try to work out a longer term extension 116 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: with Michael Porter Junior. But it's probably going to come 117 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: in at a at a number much smaller than that 118 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: fifty million dollar number that you're gonna have to pay 119 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: a guy like Lori market in. So that's why I 120 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: think Michael Porter Junior makes the most sense, But they 121 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: do have options there. I think that specific position that 122 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 1: jump shooting forward is one of the deeper classes in 123 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: UH In this particular trade class, it's just there's not 124 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: a lot of perimeter defense in that group. But dudes 125 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: who can like rebound, that have good size and strength, 126 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: that can knock down threes in various different ways and 127 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: attack a little bit of mismatch type of stuff one 128 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: on one. There's actually several good options in this class. 129 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: The Boston Celtics, this team needs frontline size. They were 130 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: a bottom ten defensive rebounding team so far this season. 131 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: I think that they could use like a big, switchy 132 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: forward or like a you know, kind of like a 133 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: Ford center hybrid that's kind of bigger and stronger, or 134 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: just a big, strong center. Strength and rebounding are going 135 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: to be key here, but without sacrificing too much in 136 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: the way of their offensive spacing. There's also the added 137 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: complication of money, So, for instance, it doesn't make sense 138 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 1: to trade for a player if you're Boston that you're 139 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: going to have to re sign and keep on the 140 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: books for twenty plus million a season year after year 141 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: because of the realities of their cap sheet. Boston in 142 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty eight twenty nine season has Tatum, Brown 143 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: and White on the books for one hundred and sixty 144 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:03,359 Speaker 1: seven million dollars just those three players. So that takes 145 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:07,679 Speaker 1: like the foundational more expensive centers essentially off the table. 146 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: So you're not going to go for like a guy 147 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: like Simbonis or a guy like Clackson. I know that 148 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: there were Celtics fans that wanted if he's a Zubots 149 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: for example, Like those guys are just gonna be too 150 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: expensive under their circumstances. So here are a couple of examples. 151 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: I have three options for a type of big either 152 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,559 Speaker 1: Ford Center, hybrid or center that I think could help 153 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: the Celtics. One and I've talked about this guy on 154 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: the show before, but Nikola Vusovich, he's on an expiring 155 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: so you could resign him on a discounted deal. You 156 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: could probably get him around three years thirty million after 157 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: this season. He's thirty five years old, so he's not 158 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: going to go fetch some massive Like I would be 159 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: shocked if someone went and offered Vusovich three years ninety million, 160 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like that that kind of 161 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: feels off the table for me. So like I think 162 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: you might be able to get him at a discount. 163 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: I think he would personally love the opportunity to contend, 164 00:07:55,360 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: and he brings that power, strength, rebounding, jump shooting, and 165 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: also that match up attacking in the post. I look 166 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: at him as essentially like what Al Horford was for them, 167 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: without the defensive versatility. Obviously he's going to come with 168 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: issues defensively, but that's a big part of why you 169 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: can get him for cheap and why you can extend 170 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: him for cheap. But again, like the thing that's nice 171 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,119 Speaker 1: with the Vusovich is you still have a Niemi Keita 172 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: as like a traditional rim protecting, vertical spacing type of 173 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: option as an alternative if there's a matchup where you're 174 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: struggling to get stops with Vusovich on the floor. But 175 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: he's an option that I really like for them. A 176 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: couple other guys that I really like for the spot 177 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: Jalen Smith out of Chicago, very good rebounder, can shoot 178 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: the ball a little bit. He gets him up eight 179 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: attempts from three per thirty six minutes this season thirty 180 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: five percent. That seems like a lower percentage, but he's 181 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: forty five percent when he's spotting up, So when he's 182 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: standing still he's been knocking it down at a really 183 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,839 Speaker 1: high rate. Where he struggles is like when he's running 184 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: up the floor in transition, or when he's popping out 185 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: of ball screens, anything that involves a little bit of 186 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: movement but lower volume on those I think that he 187 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: would still be very useful offensively. And then Darren Sharp 188 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: out of Brooklyn is another guy doesn't bring the shooting, 189 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,839 Speaker 1: but he brings the size and the physicality and the rebounding. 190 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: Vucevich trade would be pretty simple. You'd basically just trade 191 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: Anthony Simons for Vusovich. You give or take some amount 192 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: of draft compensation. I don't know. I don't think Boston 193 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: would have to pay anything in that case. If anything, 194 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: you could work out a three team deal that re 195 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: routes Simons to a team that needs some ball handling 196 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 1: and shooting, and maybe even get some draft compensation back 197 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: if you're Boston in that case. But honestly, what you're 198 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: targeting there is Vuch's expiring, because then you can re 199 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: sign him to some team friendly deal after the season. 200 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: You get a starting center for the next three seasons 201 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: that fits the system really well, and you still have 202 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: your kind of Cada look as a different look. Plus 203 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: your small ball looks Jalen Smith. This one would be 204 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: a little bit more complicated with the salaries. It'd be 205 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 1: something like Anthony Simons and Chris Bouchet, and you'd get 206 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 1: back Jalen Smith, Isaaca Korro and Daleen Terry. Jalen Smith 207 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: has nine million dollars on his contract this year, in 208 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: nine point four next year. I think that's a perfectly 209 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 1: fine type of contract for Boston to absorb. In this case, 210 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: Dale and Terry's on the last year of his deal, 211 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: so you can extend him or you can let him 212 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: walk if you want to. And then Isaac Accorro has 213 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: another year on his deal at twelve million after this season. 214 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,359 Speaker 1: But he's an athlete and I think he'd be incredibly 215 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: easy to dump if you want to. Like I can 216 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: say for one hundred percent certain that if you called 217 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: up the Lakers and asks for Gabe Vincent's expiring contract 218 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: for Isaac Accorro, they take it to heartbeat and then 219 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, all that money falls off of 220 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: your books. And most importantly, I just think Jalen Smith 221 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: would be really fun for the Celtics. Again, just a 222 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: spacing big that can also really rebound that can also 223 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,839 Speaker 1: be retained long term at a discount that to me 224 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: just kind of checks a lot of boxes for a 225 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 1: team like Boston. This one's really tough. It's really difficult 226 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: to come up with trades that makes sense for the 227 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,839 Speaker 1: Knicks for a variety of reasons. One, I think they 228 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: only have one tradeable first and it's this kind of 229 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: funky top eight per detected pick from the Wizards that 230 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: will most likely convert into two second round picks. And 231 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: in general, it's just hard to make trades with the 232 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: way their roster is put together. Like they have all 233 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: these massive salaries at the top of their cap sheet, 234 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: right like og Nnob, Michal Bridges, Jalen Brunson, but they're 235 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: vitally important to the team's constructor not trading any of 236 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: those three guys. Kat is such a massive contract that 237 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: it's difficult to find any trades that actually makes sense 238 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: for both sides. Where a team would be like, yeah, sure, 239 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: we'll take on Kat's behemoth of a contract for this 240 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: incredibly flawed player. Like, it's just gonna be hard to 241 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: find anything that makes sense there. Josh Hart is kind 242 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: of in that sweet spot where he's making around twenty million, 243 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: but he's in many ways the heart and soul of 244 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: the team. I mean, like it's just difficult to find 245 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: a real value add to the team where like a 246 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: type of player that comes back for Josh Hart that 247 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: you can justify the improvement for what you'd be sacrificing 248 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: in terms of team chemistry and just how important he 249 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: is to the roster. And Josh is having a great season, 250 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 1: He's shooting forty percent from three this year. And then 251 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: after you get after Josh Hart, it's just a bunch 252 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: of really small salaries. And if you start trading smaller 253 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: salaries without draft compensation, it's just not going to bring 254 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 1: back any sort of real needle moving type of players. 255 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 1: So if I had to come up with just a 256 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: random example for a Knicks trade to be like calling 257 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: up Phoenix and offering Guershan Yabusali plus a second round 258 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: pick for a guy like Nick Richards, if you just 259 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: wanted to have a different option that you can play 260 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: as a backup big. But I don't see anything big 261 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: and splashy for New York from this deadline. It just 262 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:35,199 Speaker 1: seems really difficult to find trades that make sense for them. 263 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: Toronto is another teams that have a difficulty finding some 264 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 1: trades for they also have several massive contracts at the 265 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: top and then very small contracts. It's difficult when your 266 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: roster set up that way to find trades when you 267 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: don't have those kind of middling salaries and that like 268 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 1: ten to twenty five million range, it's hard to send 269 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: out one of your major rotation pieces like RJ. Barrett 270 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 1: for example, He's been injured for chunks this season, but 271 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: like when he's been healthy, he's been very good and 272 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: has has helped the Raptors a lot. And so it's 273 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,959 Speaker 1: difficult to find trades that make sense where you're getting 274 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: back some real pop in an RJ. Barrett trade, for example, 275 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: like Brandon Ingram, Scottie Barnes yaka Pertle's Manual Quickly, it's 276 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 1: hard to find like trades that makes sense sending those 277 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: guys out. But the team does need some shooting their 278 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: bottom ten and three point volume, their bottom five and 279 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: three point percentage, So ideally just like this puts you 280 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: in that class of like the smaller contract wings that 281 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: can shoot, So basically they need to be looking for 282 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: a better version of some of the RJ. Barrett replacements 283 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: that they've tried this year during the minutes when r J. 284 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: Barrett's been out, like a Jacobe Walter for example. Right, 285 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 1: So like this in this department, I'm looking somewhere along 286 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: the lines of like Keon Ellis or Aya Disuon mil Right. 287 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: So like Keon is on the last year of his 288 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: deal making two point three million. So basically, just be 289 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: any minimum contract plus a pick to get a guy 290 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: like Keon, but then you you have to also resign 291 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: him after the season. Desumo is a little tougher to 292 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: match at seven point five million, but he's also a 293 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 1: better shooter specifically, and Desumo has actually been a sneaky 294 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: good ball handler this year. 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Looking at the Cleveland Cavaliers, 330 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: another team that could really use some help on the 331 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: defensive glass, But I think it's more of a depth 332 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: thing than a core lineup thing. Like so, for example, 333 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: like this development of Jalen Tyson popping the way that 334 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: he's been popping here in his second season, it's resolved 335 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: most of my concerns for them at the three because 336 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: you also have Max Strus eventually coming back into this situation, right, 337 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: Jalen Tyson rebounds the hell out of the basketball, is 338 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: just shy of eight rebounds per thirty six minutes, and 339 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: he shoots the hell out of it. He can guard 340 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: like he's just Jalen Tyson is just everything that they 341 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: need at that three spot, and unfortunately we've barely seen 342 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: it in terms of sample size, but him at the 343 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: three alongside the core four guys has been amazing in 344 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: seventy two possessions. And again that's a very small sample, 345 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: that's like less than three fourths of a basketball game. 346 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: But in that small sample, they've been unbelievable on offense, 347 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: unbelievable on defense, unbelievable on the offensive glass, unbelievable on 348 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: the defensive glass. Actually plus forty three net, so forty 349 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: three points per one hundred possessions, albeit in that small 350 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: sample for the core four plus Jalen Tyson. So I 351 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: don't think this group has stands to gain a ton 352 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 1: by looking to upgrade that specific spot when all four 353 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 1: of their core four guys are healthy. So for them, 354 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: I'm looking at more of like a marginal upgrade somewhere 355 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: probably along that backup center spot. So like if you 356 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 1: could turn Thomas Bryant, for example, if you just call 357 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: Brooklyn and you offer Thomas Bryant in a second round 358 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: pick for a guy like Dayron Sharp, like a bigger, 359 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: more physical, higher floor option at that backup center spot 360 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 1: than a Thomas Bryan. Thomas Bryant's gonna have games where 361 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 1: he goes out there and he shoots the ball really 362 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: well and it looks great, but more often than not 363 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:37,959 Speaker 1: that's not been the case. And the Calves have not 364 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: been very good this year with Thomas Bryan on the floor. 365 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: So bringing in a guy like Dayron Sharp would just 366 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: be a marginal upgrade to that backup center spot. But again, 367 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: like I think the idea of them making some of 368 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 1: some sort of ultra aggressive trade for a three doesn't 369 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: make a ton of sense. And then after that then 370 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 1: you start getting into like the fundamental reorienting of the 371 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: rock Like yeah, like could they get into the Yannis 372 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: sweepstakes if they wanted to include a guy like Evan Mobley, Like, yeah, 373 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 1: they could. But it's like, now we're talking about fundamentally 374 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 1: altering the entire identity of this team. Like if you 375 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: start thinking about trading a Darius Garland, if you start 376 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,719 Speaker 1: thinking about trading a Jared Allen, and now it's just 377 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: a very very different conversation about completely reorienting the team. 378 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: But if you still believe in the Cavs and you 379 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 1: still believe in what this team is capable of when 380 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: they're fully healthy, which we keep seeing that data. Every 381 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 1: time they have been healthy, they've looked really good. They've 382 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 1: just struggled to stay healthy. And here we are again 383 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 1: watching Donovan Mitchell try to carry the team without Darius Garland. 384 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: It's just difficult to watch right. So, like, it just 385 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: depends on how you feel if you believe in the 386 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: healthy core, very slight tweaks, like something like turning Thomas 387 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,919 Speaker 1: Bryant into Darren Sharp if you want to go big, 388 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 1: like you know it's I'm not the biggest Evan Mobley 389 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 1: believer in the world, although he started to show some 390 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:05,199 Speaker 1: signs of gaining some rhythm on offense this season. But 391 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 1: like if for me, like if I could turn a 392 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: guy like Evan Mobley into Giannis, I personally would do it. 393 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: I think that the East is wide open enough, and 394 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: I think doing something big and splashy like that could 395 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: end up rewarding you with a finals appearance or even 396 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: a chance to compete for a championship. But those are 397 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: just so that we don't know if Giannis is going 398 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: to be available at this deadline. We don't know if 399 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: he's even interested in playing for Cleveland. There's all these 400 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: like different kind of variables there that make that sort 401 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: of thing really difficult to work out. All Right, three 402 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 1: more teams that I want to get into today. First 403 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: to Miami Heat. So obviously we've seen reports that that 404 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 1: there's some mutual interest between John Morant in the Heat. 405 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of like basketball synergy there 406 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 1: in the sense that you have this Miami Heat team 407 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: that is kind of devoid of high end offensive talent, 408 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: like true defense breaking offensive talent. Like They've got a 409 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: lot of guys that are capable of doing things on offense, 410 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: but it's either inconsistent based on just how well they 411 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 1: shoot on a night to night basis, or it's inconsistent 412 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 1: based on matchups and whether or not they're able to 413 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 1: get the types of favorable matchups they need to succeed 414 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: within their system, which relies a lot on one on 415 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 1: one dribble penetration. Right, Like you catch the Heat on 416 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: the right night. Hakez looks absolutely amazing, Norman Powell looks 417 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 1: absolutely amazing. BAM's hitting threes and looks like an All 418 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: NBA player, And like there's all these different variations of 419 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: the Heat that look great but there's nothing there that's 420 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 1: like consistently amazing on a night and night out basis, 421 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 1: regardless of the type of matchup that they that they're facing. 422 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 1: And so having a guy like John Morant who has 423 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: this singular gift of the ability to beat people off 424 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 1: the dribble, which again we saw in this system at 425 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: the start of last season lead to quite a few wins, 426 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 1: even if it wasn't necessarily the most statistically impressive. John 427 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: Morant and Jaw individually prefers to play pick and roll, 428 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: but I don't think he's really It's kind of in 429 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 1: a little bit of a beggar's camp be choosers situation here, 430 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: where like he needs to find a place that'll take 431 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 1: him and that will actually give him an opportunity to 432 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 1: continue to develop into the player he's capable of being. 433 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: And so that's why I think like Miami, you know, 434 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 1: would have some leverage to be able to look at 435 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 1: John and be like, hey, welcome, but hey, you're playing 436 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 1: in this system. But at its core, the idea of 437 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: job bringing the ball up the floor and beating his 438 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: first defender off the dribble to kind of get things 439 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: started on offense is something that I think makes a 440 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 1: lot of sense. Now, Miami does have too tradeable. First, 441 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: I get why they would not want to include a 442 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: first round pick in a situation for a guy like 443 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: John Moran, specifically because of a potential Yiannis trade down 444 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: the line or a different type of star trade. There's 445 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: also some concern and we've heard that like Memphis, for example, 446 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: would not be interested in taking Tyler Harrow's salary back 447 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 1: in this case. And so it's like, if you have 448 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: to dump salary as part of the process to get job, 449 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: then you have to start including draft compensation, and that's 450 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: where it gets complicated, and you know you want to 451 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: keep as many of your first as you can for 452 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,919 Speaker 1: a theoretical Yannis trade. So I actually came up with 453 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: a crazy little three teamer here for you, because I 454 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 1: know the Lakers really want Andrew Wiggins. So what if 455 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: you used Andrew Wiggins essentially as the salary piece to 456 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: bring back a guy like John Morant. So a kind 457 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 1: of idea of a structure for this trade is the 458 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: Heat would get John Morant, they would get Maxi Kleiba's 459 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: expiring from the Lakers. So that's just an expiring contract, 460 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: a contract that's going to come off your books after 461 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: the season. And then you'd get Dalton Connect alleged shooting 462 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: prospect that hasn't really been able to make shots. He 463 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: has a lot of talent, it just hasn't really come 464 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 1: to fruition. It's kind of I'm kind of out on 465 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: the guy. Most of the league's out on the guy. 466 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: But he makes four million dollars and so like you 467 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: could you could, you know, get rid of him if 468 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: you wanted to after the season. In this case, the 469 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: Heat would also get the Laker twenty thirty one first 470 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: round pick, so they'd get a first round pick. In 471 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: this case the Grizzlies, they would get ruey Ha Chamura 472 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: and they'd get Gay Vincent from the Lakers, just another 473 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,880 Speaker 1: expiring and then they'd either get two second round picks 474 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 1: from the Heat, or maybe the Heat would re route 475 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 1: that Lakers first to the Grizzlies if they got Stingy. 476 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 1: It just kind of depends on what the Grizzlies are 477 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 1: asking for in terms of the price for John Morant. 478 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 1: But like preferably, if you're the Heat, you want to 479 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,360 Speaker 1: keep that Lakers first because then you have three tradeable 480 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:33,719 Speaker 1: first for an eventual Yannis trade and you can you know, 481 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: if you can convince Memphis to get rid of Jaw 482 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: for two second round picks, then you can maintain that 483 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: third first. But worst case scenario, you could also reroute 484 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: that first. In this case, the Lakers would get Scotty 485 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: Pippen Junior from the Grizzlies, Andrew Wiggins from the Heat, 486 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: as well as Davion Mitchell, and so then John Morant 487 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: basically just slots into that starting point guard spot they're 488 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: at there in Miami. And so in that case, like 489 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 1: the Grizzlies get some draft compensation for John Morant, they 490 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 1: have a shooting four that can give them a little 491 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 1: bit of size in some different looks alongside Jaron Jackson 492 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: potentially there, and they get off a job. Most importantly, 493 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: the Lakers get their Andrew Wiggins that they want so bad. 494 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: The Heat end up getting John Morant, and again it's 495 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: just just really fighting over draft compensation there. But that's 496 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 1: gonna be the trick if it's not the Lakers some 497 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,719 Speaker 1: other kind of third team to re route a Tyler 498 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 1: Harrow or you know, maybe someone else wants and Andrew 499 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,479 Speaker 1: Wiggins and you can use Andrew Wiggins as a salary 500 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: filler there. But it just gets a little tricky if 501 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: the Grizzlies aren't gonna take back like Terry Rozier's contract 502 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: and they're not going to take back Tyler Harrow's contract. 503 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 1: But those are your best vehicles with which to achieve 504 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 1: getting John Morant, then you're gonna have to start to 505 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: get a little creative with with involving other teams. The 506 00:24:56,119 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: Orlando Magic. So this is actually my favorite Klay Thompson team. 507 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: I think that Orlando has such a specific need for 508 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: reliable catch and shoot shooting on the wing, and they 509 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: have so much athleticism and size to support and anchor 510 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 1: a guy like Clay. They love to run inverted ball 511 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: screens where they have Franz or Pallow catch a screen 512 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,479 Speaker 1: from one of their guards kind of slipping out of it. You. 513 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:27,159 Speaker 1: Clay Thompson's just amazing at that specific thing. And Klay's 514 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 1: just been in a lot of big games. He's just 515 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: a kind of guy that if you injected him into 516 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: a locker room like this, he could work wonders for 517 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 1: just having everybody feel more comfortable and confident in big 518 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 1: game settings. I just think he's the kind of guy that, 519 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:46,199 Speaker 1: like wouldn't cost much, but that could potentially do a 520 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: lot for this particular Orlando Magic team. And so the 521 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: deal would be pretty simple to construct. It would be 522 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: like Jonathan Isaac plus a minimum, so something like no 523 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 1: appenda or something along those lines. I don't think you'd 524 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: have to include draft compensation. It would more so be 525 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 1: a favor for Dallas to allow Klay Thompson to go 526 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: play somewhere where he can compete for a title. And 527 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: once again, just I just imagine a scenario where like 528 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: you could have, you know, lineups on the floor where 529 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: you have Desmond Baine, Klay Thompson, Franz Polo, and Wendell 530 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: Carter Junior. And it's just a lot more shooting than 531 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 1: Orlando's ever had in that specific instance. And because of 532 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 1: the ability that Desmond Bain has to guard on the 533 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,679 Speaker 1: perimeter and they do have other guards they can go 534 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: with their Anthony Black can still play, you know, start 535 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: and close games, but Clay can anchor those lineups when 536 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: Anthony Black is off the floor, Clay can give them 537 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: an option to have more shooting in more of their 538 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: lineups in different spots during the game. The Bucks this 539 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: is this is I want to kind of start big 540 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: picture surrounding Giannis, because the Bucks end up getting absolutely 541 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 1: annihilated by the thunder last night, and it was embarrassing 542 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 1: from the start, Like I think at one point in 543 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 1: the first quarter, they had seven turnovers and three made 544 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: field goals. There were possessions where they couldn't even get 545 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: the ball across half court without turning it over, like 546 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: just little basic things like you know, AJ Green's curling 547 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: around the screen and a pass gets thrown a little 548 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,880 Speaker 1: bit behind him and AJ Mitchell is stealing it going 549 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,719 Speaker 1: the other way, And like AJ Mitchell, by the way, 550 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: was absolutely amazing in this game. And him just exploding 551 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: into a reliable offensive weapon for Oklahoma City has just 552 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: been such a godsend for them with how bad the 553 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,199 Speaker 1: injury stuff has been with j Dubb and just how 554 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: inconsistent he was when he was available. But Oklahoma City 555 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: just goes into Milwaukee and Wrecksham in the opening quarter. 556 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: They were up forty to eighteen. I think at one 557 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 1: point in that game they just crushed him right out 558 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: the gates. And Giannis talked after the game about how 559 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 1: like no one's playing hard and everyone's playing selfishly and 560 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: everyone's just kind of looking out for themselves, and it 561 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,919 Speaker 1: got pretty negative and pretty dark coming from Giannis in 562 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,880 Speaker 1: that game. And so to be clear, before we get 563 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 1: into any of these ideas that I have, I think 564 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: the Bucks should just trade Giannis any of these other 565 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 1: deals that I'm looking at here, because what I'm looking 566 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: at is offensive creation. Like I'm looking at some sort 567 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: of high upside ball handler that could come in and 568 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: maybe just add enough juice to this team to get 569 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 1: them to buy back in to where they start actually 570 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: playing hard every night, and maybe they have some punch's chance, 571 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 1: a puncher's chance to make some sort of run in 572 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference. But like any sort of ball handler 573 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: that you bring in, it interferes with the development of 574 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: a guy like Ryan Rollins, who I actually really like. 575 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: And I would argue that, you know, just in general, 576 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: having Kevin Porter Junior kind of come back into the picture, 577 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: and the way that this team has just completely tuned 578 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: Doc Rivers out and started playing bad basketball, all of 579 00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: that already is bad for Ryan Rollins's development, Like Ryan 580 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: Rollins needs to be playing in a like a serious 581 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: environment where he has a real opportunity to grow into 582 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: the player he's capable of being, which we saw flashes 583 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: of early in the season. And so I think you 584 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: there's some reality to Milwaukee situation where it's like, if 585 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: you acknowledge reality and you move Giannis, you open the 586 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: door to fire. Dooc rivers get a new young head 587 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: coach in there that has the opportunity to kind of 588 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: build a new culture in a new environment. You can 589 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: get rid of all of the players on the roster 590 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: that you don't like for one reason or another in 591 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: terms of their influence on the culture, and you can 592 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: start to build something and you can really get quite 593 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: a bit back for Giannis in that process. And so 594 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: I just think this is a disaster, and I know 595 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: it sucks for Bucks fans because this isn't how you 596 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: wanted it to the end to end, and no one 597 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: ever wants it to end. But like, the more you 598 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: drag this out, the nastier it gets the each passing year. 599 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: Even like Giannis's own trade value diminishes, you're not competing 600 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: for anything right now, and you're actually stifling the development 601 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: of your own young players. And you actually have some 602 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: guys on this team, like I really like Aj Green, 603 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: I really like Ryan Rollins. If you could like if 604 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: you could, you know, uh, make a trade and bring 605 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: back a guy like an Evan Mobley in a in 606 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: a deal with Cleveland, or if you could bring back, 607 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: you know, someone a couple of like a real talented 608 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: young pieces from Miami, whether it ends up being a 609 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: you know, Jimehakez or it ends up being a kelll 610 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 1: Ware or something along those lines, just something that resets 611 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 1: your environments so that you can actually start to take 612 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: the steps towards what the next iteration of the bucks 613 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 1: will be instead of just kind of hanging in this 614 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: purgatory and obviously get a bunch of draft picks, draft 615 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 1: picks that you can use to continue to to head 616 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: in that direction. But for the sake of this kind 617 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: of exercise, the kinds of guys that you're looking at 618 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: if you're Milwaukee, if you're trying to try to maximize 619 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: this version with Giannis again is a distressed ball handler, 620 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: so a ball handler that won't cost you much. The 621 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: favorite guy that I have when I look at the 622 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: landscape is actually Anferny Simons. I think that whoever Antherny 623 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: Simons gets traded to by the Celtics, because the Celtics 624 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: are going to trade Anthony in pursuit of a big 625 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: and some financial flexibility in the future. So let's say, 626 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 1: for instance, that Boston trades Anferny Simons to Chicago for 627 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: Jalen Smith, which is one of my favorite kind of 628 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,959 Speaker 1: Celtics oriented deals we talked about it earlier. In that case, 629 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: I would then call Chicago and try to get Anthony Simons. 630 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: Anferny Simons is the type of guy that really high level, 631 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: pull up three point shooter, a guy that, especially in 632 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: the last month and a half or so, is really 633 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 1: starting to pop for Boston, like so much so that 634 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: it's made Boston at least think about not trading him, 635 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: even though the answer is that they obviously have to. 636 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: Anthony Simons is a guy really like Demarta Rosen is 637 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: another option they could look at. I don't love the 638 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 1: fit there, but again, it's just a distressed ball handler. 639 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: Kobe White, you'd have to extend him, but he's the 640 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: kind of guy too that just kind of fits that 641 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: mold of the pull up shooting, kind of speedy, bigger guard. 642 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: And then there's also Tyler Harrow who's distressed and you 643 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 1: could get him for almost nothing, Like I think you 644 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: could probably call them an offer like Kyle Kuzma and 645 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,719 Speaker 1: Cole Anthony for Tyler Harrow if you want. And one 646 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,479 Speaker 1: of the things with Tyler Harrow is like I do 647 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: think he would have some natural two man game chemistry 648 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: with Giannis, So it's at least an option there. Really 649 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,479 Speaker 1: good pull up shooter, a guy that if he's allowed 650 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: to work and drop coverage, which you basically would have 651 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: to with a Giannis matchup because you don't want to 652 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: give up switches to him. I think that he could 653 00:32:58,040 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: have some success there. It's like it's hard to find it. 654 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: Tyler Harrow team that makes sense, but it's got to 655 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: be a situation like this where you're kind of desperate 656 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: and you have to make something of an aggressive move 657 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 1: that has some upside. So again, like I think Milwaukee 658 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 1: should trade Giannis. My favorite option for them if they 659 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: do try to keep Yiannis is to target the team 660 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 1: that gets Anfernie Simons from the Celtics and see if 661 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: you can't get Anferny in there. All right, guys, it's 662 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 1: all I have for today. As always, a sincerely appreciate 663 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 1: you guys for supporting us and supporting the show again. 664 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: We will have another version of this that focuses more 665 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: on the Western Conference coming out next week. Tomorrow, we're 666 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 1: gonna have some game reaction. There's fun Slate tonight some 667 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: big national TV games, so we'll have game reaction tomorrow, 668 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: with the second half of the show being a kind 669 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: of a mini mail bag, and then we'll be done 670 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: for the weekend. Again, as always, I appreciate you guys 671 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: for rocking with us. We will see you tomorrow morning.