WEBVTT - Hangin' with the 'Boys: Checking in with Will McClay 0:00:02.960 --> 0:00:05.480 The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.519 --> 0:00:16.800 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Flow way out of 0:00:16.880 --> 0:00:22.479 the backfield, exploding down the sidelines. He's hanging with the Boys, 0:00:22.800 --> 0:00:26.920 broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star 0:00:27.160 --> 0:00:31.880 in Frisco. Now your host Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, and 0:00:32.320 --> 0:00:37.199 Shannon Gross. It is Wednesday, hump Day here at the 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:40.080 Star in Frisco. I'm Kurt Daniels. I'm joined by the 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:43.560 Super Bowl winner, Pro Bowl player, and the great Nate Newton. 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:45.440 How are you today? Name? I wish this dude could 0:00:45.520 --> 0:00:49.519 get another We've got Douglas behind the wall working his 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:54.880 magic out today. Shannon Gross real in today for at 0:00:54.920 --> 0:00:58.640 least the first segment. Special guests, the great scouting guru 0:00:58.720 --> 0:01:01.080 here at the Stars, Will mc hey, thanks with coming 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:05.840 or who that's a there's a connotation to that many 0:01:06.000 --> 0:01:09.200 for us. You are, You're the man all things scouting 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:11.560 here at the Stars, and I know you don't have 0:01:11.560 --> 0:01:14.120 a lot of times. We'll get right to it. Um. 0:01:14.120 --> 0:01:17.039 First off, just easily, what what are you impression so 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:20.200 far with this rookie class. I'm enjoying watching them play 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:24.039 and grow. Um, we we got guys that we felt 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:26.280 like could fit in certain spots and do certain things. 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:29.600 And then they're a very mature group, so they've been 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:32.000 able to handle the things that you know, come with 0:01:32.040 --> 0:01:33.800 the NFL, and they've been able to handle them well. 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:37.640 So seeing Dorn's armstrong coming and contribute, Layton, vander ass, Gallop, 0:01:37.760 --> 0:01:39.560 you know, all of those guys coming in and doing 0:01:39.600 --> 0:01:41.880 some things to help us. With Connor starting and it's 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:44.640 in the NFL starting at a guard coming out of 0:01:44.680 --> 0:01:46.560 college with some of the stuff that he's grown men 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:49.400 due to you, it's a learning experience. But he was 0:01:49.480 --> 0:01:51.400 better last week than he was the first week, and 0:01:51.480 --> 0:01:54.000 we hope to continue that growing through. You know, with Layton, 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:57.600 I said this off air. I thought by him being 0:01:57.600 --> 0:02:00.040 a little injured, you know, doing training camp, that we 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:01.880 wouldn't see much him. I thought it would be Thompson, 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:06.800 Joe Thomas, Joe Thompson or Thomas Thomas. But he's been 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:09.799 playing talk about about Layton. I mean, we haven't blowed 0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:12.000 him up since we got from training camp. What are 0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:15.200 you seeing Layton? I think the most uh, the most 0:02:15.280 --> 0:02:19.320 important or his biggest feature is the fact that he's 0:02:19.880 --> 0:02:23.560 big and he can run, and he covers up lanes. Uh, 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:26.320 and he reacts very well to things in front of me, 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:29.079 closed the space, like he made tackles last week on 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:31.520 Barkley where you know it was taking two or three 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:34.160 because he's so long, because he's big, he's athletic, he 0:02:34.240 --> 0:02:36.799 can make those tackles. And then his ability to pick 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:40.080 up the defense and know all three spots and also 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:42.799 playing sub packages. You have a comfort with a guy 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:44.560 that's gonna do the right thing, is gonna do that 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:47.600 at a high level. Wow, man, I just I'm telling 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:51.440 I'm telling everybody what I saw. I'm thinking Joe was 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:54.440 gonna be backing up all three spots. But when I 0:02:54.880 --> 0:02:59.320 when we had a little hiccup with Sean, he was 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:02.880 in there. He was he was doing his job. He 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:06.119 mightn't even start over Wilson. Wilson had a good game, said, 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:09.239 Damien's playing really, really well, and we're very fortunate to 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:12.440 have six linebackers and seven when Covington hadn't played yet 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:16.040 that can play on special teams but really help us 0:03:16.040 --> 0:03:17.880 on defense. And we have a plan for him. We're 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:21.400 rotating guys through to keep Jalen uh you know healthy 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:25.120 and um you don't even word about that normal. But 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:28.360 the number of players. Yeah, there's a lot of plays 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:31.040 in football games. And to play the way that we play, 0:03:31.120 --> 0:03:33.160 where you have to run to the ball and it's 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:36.080 vitally important that they we get around the ball. You're 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:39.440 gonna have to rotate those guys through man Jalen. And 0:03:39.880 --> 0:03:42.200 last year, like I told these guys, I'm not greating 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:44.600 these kids because I thought it was unfair to try 0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:47.120 to grade a guy who's not there yet, even though 0:03:47.160 --> 0:03:49.600 he was getting reps. But this year here, man, he 0:03:49.800 --> 0:03:52.320 is growing by leaps and bounds each game. You know 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:55.600 he's getting better and better. But now move on to 0:03:55.800 --> 0:04:01.040 my man. Darren's arm strong. You love him. Yeah, he 0:04:01.160 --> 0:04:03.120 got violent hands. Did you see him want to run? 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:04.920 Play man? When he did, got to hold it on 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:06.920 him out he stuck his hand in his kid's chest. 0:04:07.240 --> 0:04:11.760 That's that's really the most incredible thing about him, is uh. 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:14.360 And in Rod's defense, you gotta play tough, you gotta 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:16.440 fit where you're supposed to fit, and you gotta play 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:19.920 with some fortitude. And it's a young kid that you know, 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:22.680 he's outweighed by twenty five thirty pounds sometimes and he 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:26.600 plays with that natural leverage. He plays with instincts and intelligence, 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:28.840 and he does exactly what the coaches asked him to 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:32.400 do at his own way. He's got to bend about him. 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:34.479 He's able to bend, he's able to use his length. 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:36.560 And then when it comes to pass rush, he's just 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:39.920 he's always he's he's getting there, Yes he is, you know. 0:04:40.000 --> 0:04:42.400 It's he just needs that step and the reps that 0:04:42.440 --> 0:04:44.920 he gets an understanding how the game is played in 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:47.080 the NFL. He's gonna be a big piece for us 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:49.760 going down the stretch too. What on the on Gallup? 0:04:50.160 --> 0:04:52.240 You know, he's I've always heard the receivers one of 0:04:52.279 --> 0:04:54.480 the toughest positions for a rookie to play. And here 0:04:54.560 --> 0:04:56.400 he's surrounded with all new guys. You know, there's a 0:04:56.440 --> 0:04:58.559 lot of a lot of It's kind of a wide 0:04:58.560 --> 0:05:01.360 receiver by committee and someone respects. Is that good for 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:03.360 him to give him more chances? I guess I think 0:05:03.400 --> 0:05:05.800 it does. It gives him more chances, he has more reps. Well, 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:08.120 there's not all this weight on his shoulder. So if 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:10.720 you know Cowboys need receivers, you draft a Gallup, put 0:05:10.800 --> 0:05:13.280 him in there and let him fail, or you know, 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:16.120 it's all on him. Now he's in the mix with 0:05:16.200 --> 0:05:17.840 the other guys. He's fitting in. And I'll tell you 0:05:17.880 --> 0:05:20.760 the most incredible thing about him is, while yeah, he 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:23.720 didn't have an overproductive game catching the ball, he had 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:27.000 three pancake blocks as a receiver in the run game. 0:05:27.000 --> 0:05:29.040 And so that's part of the identity that we're building. 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:31.840 But him buying into it as a receiver as a 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:34.360 young guy, that only tells that that ceiling is gonna 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:37.000 be very high because once you get that part down, now, 0:05:37.560 --> 0:05:40.039 the routes and everything is gonna come a lot easier. 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:42.400 The dbs are gonna be Wait a minute, this guy's 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:44.160 gonna come after me and it's gonna be a little 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:47.000 bit different. So he's learning every day. Great. Well, you 0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:50.640 know what's amazing is and see, I have a little 0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:53.280 different deal because we are a young team and we 0:05:53.560 --> 0:05:55.960 kind of started that last year by the guys that 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:58.480 we drafted. It's just I'll be wanting them to play. 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:02.800 Whether they fail or not. Don't bother me as much 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:06.040 as most people. But you know, Michael Gallup, and what 0:06:06.200 --> 0:06:08.600 I'm leading to is we went out and got Bryce Butler. 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:13.039 Does that take away from some of the other reps. 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:15.560 So y'all just trying to see where Bryce fit. Trying 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:18.040 to see where Bryce fits. I mean, we're always, you know, 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:20.920 the NFL is you're always trying to improve and you're 0:06:20.960 --> 0:06:24.279 trying to find the pieces that can help you continue 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:26.520 to grow. And you know we're in game two. It's 0:06:26.560 --> 0:06:29.239 a long season, so let's find out as we continue 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:31.400 to go through and find out what fits best for us. 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:33.840 It doesn't take anything away from Gallup because we're committed 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:36.320 to Gallop Gallop playing and Gallop being here and being 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:39.880 productive for us for a long time. Now. You constantly 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:41.680 are bringing guys in for tryouts and nothing on the 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:44.000 pro side of things. Is that a situation where the 0:06:44.400 --> 0:06:47.520 coaches say, hey, we need we're weak here, we need 0:06:47.600 --> 0:06:49.520 some look at somebody, or is it where the scouts say, 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:51.280 we think this guy can play, you need to come 0:06:51.320 --> 0:06:53.760 see him. I think the number one thing is knowing 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:58.279 what's out there when something happens, and we're always trying 0:06:58.279 --> 0:07:01.440 to improve the roster. That's competition. If those guys know 0:07:01.640 --> 0:07:04.839 that um our department's objective is to bring the best 0:07:04.920 --> 0:07:07.680 guys in and then it's on them to stay on 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:10.080 top of things and do that. I'm we're always going 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:12.440 to try and get better. Now, the coaches, you know, 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:14.240 there are guys that have been on the team and 0:07:14.320 --> 0:07:16.080 they know what we're doing and all that other stuff. 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:18.480 But what I'm always trying to find guys that can 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:20.560 make this team a little bit better and make the 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:26.480 competition a little bit tougher. I'm gonna tell you, Jimmy Man, Well, 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:31.200 Jimmy you man. I mean, we'd be fifteen weeks into 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:35.320 the season. You you may come in. It's a old veterans. 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:38.640 You come in, manduce in your locker. Real you'd be 0:07:38.720 --> 0:07:41.320 like hating to do Hayes Houston Man, just you and 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:43.680 you lock them working out and make so bad be 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:48.720 offensive line. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. He did 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:50.520 he know I was hanging out at the local Barlow. 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:55.640 Then today's NFL is Darwin doesn't matter, purists, vival of 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:59.880 the fittest and and um, we want to put ourselves 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:03.560 and situations to never be Oh we don't have anybody. 0:08:03.600 --> 0:08:05.920 I want to know who's out there on the street, 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:08.440 what do they like? Give our coaches the opportunity experience. 0:08:08.480 --> 0:08:10.679 I mean, if there's you know, if we need to upgrade, 0:08:10.720 --> 0:08:18.720 we will now tough question. Three quarterbacks and you don't 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:21.200 have the answer, but I'm gonna answer. I don't like 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:25.520 three quarterbacks. Four tight ends. I don't like four tight ends. 0:08:25.680 --> 0:08:28.240 Seven wide receivers. I don't like it. I'm gonna tell 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:34.400 you why, coach, because they don't play special teams. If 0:08:34.480 --> 0:08:37.680 they all play special teams, I would be happy because 0:08:37.800 --> 0:08:41.439 the more guys that can play special teams, that are backups, 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:45.160 that alleviation starters and get and keeps them fresher. Just 0:08:46.920 --> 0:08:49.640 I don't understand the theory behind it. I think it's 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:52.640 part of building a roster, and building a roster the 0:08:52.720 --> 0:08:54.719 way that you have to based on the conditions that 0:08:54.840 --> 0:08:58.760 you have. We don't have a number one receiver. People say, 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:01.640 so you've got a file that number one receiver. Then 0:09:01.679 --> 0:09:03.719 the other guys have to find their roles. We do 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:06.400 have to make receivers play on special teams. We do. 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:08.800 I mean, we're very fortunate that we have, as we 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:11.719 were talking before, six seven linebackers that can play on 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:14.439 special teams. We have corners and safeties that play on 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:16.760 special teams. And they've changed the rules a little bit 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:19.240 to take some of that stuff out of it. You know, 0:09:19.360 --> 0:09:23.760 if you had you need a special teams receiver, linebacker dB. 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:26.439 Because of the kicking game, that's kind of taking that 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:29.599 out of it. But once we find the mix that 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:32.760 we have to make the roster healthy based on numbers 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:35.000 at different spots and what we have to do. So 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:37.719 it's part of the finding out phase and we have 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:41.000 quality players there. Now guys have to get in where 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:44.040 they fit in. If you're the fifth receiver, we're gonna 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:46.000 have to play on special teams. We're gonna have to 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:48.319 do that. And as the season moves forward, I think 0:09:48.320 --> 0:09:50.280 we'll continue to find out who can do that right. 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:55.080 The hardest for me before you out, I'm gonna give mine. 0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:59.000 I want him to get the hardest spot to find 0:09:59.200 --> 0:10:03.240 players once the season started, even in training camps, I 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:06.760 believe the hardest position to find this offensive linemen. For you, 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:09.280 which I have to take your you're an offensive lineman 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:13.120 the hardest. What is the hardest spot to find? It's 0:10:13.200 --> 0:10:16.360 offensive and defensive lineman. Offensive lineman more so because when 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:19.240 you look at college football today, the way they play 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:24.160 doesn't prepare them for the NFL. So if you get 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:26.560 a guy coming in and you're trying to find they 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:28.599 don't know what you do. They don't know how to 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:32.360 play it. In to play the NFL game at a 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:35.120 high level, you have to have a number of reps 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:36.599 and you got to have a lot of ability. So 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:39.760 there's not a lot of offensive linemen out there. Everybody's 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:43.600 playing seven on seven in high school. Nobody's playing five 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:47.600 on five, So you don't have guys to develop those skills. 0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:50.120 And that's the hard And I'm I come from the 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:52.439 old school. Hey, I went up front with offensive and 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:55.520 defensive line, so you're always trying to find those guys. Wow, 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:57.160 I do before you leave, I do want to ask 0:10:57.200 --> 0:11:00.400 you about the amateur side of the scouting that's obviously 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:04.000 blowing and going right now. It's huge, how crazy it's. 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:06.960 It's the college scouts. We got six areas. Guys, they're 0:11:07.000 --> 0:11:08.920 on the road. They're going to schools and games. They 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:11.240 started right after training camp. They were there for a 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:14.360 week and a half, two weeks. Then when colleges started 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:17.880 hitting two days, they started hitting the road and they 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:20.680 go to campuses, they go to games. We're sending in reports. 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:22.959 Now we're starting to get a feel for who the 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:26.079 guys are and then starting to put a board together 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:28.960 a little bit now at least on very general terms, 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:31.360 and continuing to find out where they are, and it's 0:11:31.400 --> 0:11:33.960 a long season and staying update with all that. At 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:37.599 this point, it's you're obviously I wouldn't think you're specifically 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:41.040 targeting guys that you're still just just overall. It's it's 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:44.240 fact finding. You want to find out where especially you 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:46.439 want to know where the seniors are. And so much 0:11:46.480 --> 0:11:48.880 of this draft now as juniors that we don't talk about. 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:51.280 We can't talk to them, but you know, if schools 0:11:51.320 --> 0:11:53.000 will mention them, it kind of gives you a headstart 0:11:53.040 --> 0:11:54.960 on them. But you ask about the seniors, the guys 0:11:55.000 --> 0:11:57.680 you know that are coming out, start gathering that information 0:11:57.800 --> 0:12:00.880 and we find out who they are, and then you know, 0:12:00.960 --> 0:12:03.359 whatever juniors you can. But we're just trying to evaluate 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:05.640 the country and the best players in the country before 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:07.440 we put the board together. But you got to start 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:10.120 so we can say, okay, who's being cross check, where's 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:11.880 the strength of the draft. We want to start ahead 0:12:11.880 --> 0:12:13.720 of time to kind of look at where we are 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:16.520 getting into free agency and everything else. It's a it's 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:18.360 a you know, three hundred and sixty five day a 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:21.400 year job. Now one one more questions before we take 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:25.920 these break and let you go. And this just don't 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:31.240 you have to draft a offensive linement if it only 0:12:31.320 --> 0:12:34.400 the fifth a sixth round every year? Now, I really 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:36.880 think you have to because you know the way that 0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:39.200 salaries go in the salary cap, and you have guys 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:41.480 that are starters, Well, you got to have depth. You can't. 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:44.120 You can't play everybody, so the young guys have to grow, 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:46.920 So you have to draft. You know, it's you know 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:50.760 your question about the quarterbacks. You have to have those 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:54.319 people understand, Yeah, do that end up costing you money 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:56.920 in the long run. You have to draft them and 0:12:57.040 --> 0:12:59.360 then keep them to build so that you can have 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:01.520 backup depth. It doesn't cost you a lot of money 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:03.559 or else you're going out and paying two and a 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:06.319 half three million dollars for a backup quarterback. You're going 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:09.400 to get a three million dollar backup guard. That's you know, 0:13:09.760 --> 0:13:12.760 you know Jonathan Cooper left here in bad five million dollars, 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:14.720 Yes he did, who was injured? You know what I mean? 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:17.480 So that that's that's really how we have to build it. 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:19.920 The right way. 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Jones Anderson all will show a way we 0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:47.120 could have got tougher and tougher with the questions they 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:50.920 won't show away and that you know I didn't bring 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:55.000 him here. Asking about what's happening with with Dak You 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:57.160 know you didn't bring We want to know what this 0:16:57.320 --> 0:17:02.320 class is about, what what what what this draft is about, 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:05.920 what our players to come is about? In little situations 0:17:06.000 --> 0:17:09.200 like I want to know tight ends? You got four 0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:18.880 of them? Interesting? Was the roster construction? Yeah, we'll necessarily 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:22.200 talk about a whole lot, but um, you got a 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:25.080 question kind of how this rostam and you brought it 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:28.520 up receivers, tight ends, quarterbacks, And the thing about it is, 0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:35.600 I understand why they brought if if you feel good 0:17:35.800 --> 0:17:40.879 about your receivers, you don't need an extra right, so 0:17:41.640 --> 0:17:44.240 they're bringing him in to see where he's at and 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:47.240 how can he help if at all? If not, he 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:50.399 may not be here long are they made got something 0:17:50.480 --> 0:17:56.880 long term. They're looking at the tight ends. Dalton shots 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:02.880 enhanced Cold Gathers by him not being where they thought 0:18:02.920 --> 0:18:06.439 he would be as a blocker and as a pass catcher. 0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:10.879 That enhanced Rico Gatherings. I understand what's going on. And 0:18:10.960 --> 0:18:13.640 the three quarterbacks, that's true to understand. It's like we're 0:18:13.680 --> 0:18:16.760 not bringing in another veteran, pay him four million dollars 0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:19.480 and we and something having to dock and all of 0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:23.439 a sudden, we were still gonna be uh five and whatever, 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:26.639 you know, and what that quarterback gonna give us a 0:18:26.720 --> 0:18:29.280 six one one more win or were able to keep 0:18:29.320 --> 0:18:31.720 our low place in the draft high place in the draft, 0:18:31.760 --> 0:18:33.879 and they had that one more wine. But you did, 0:18:34.160 --> 0:18:36.440 like you mentioned the domino effect where the special teams 0:18:36.480 --> 0:18:40.480 takes a hit. Oh yeah, when you when you have 0:18:40.760 --> 0:18:47.320 linebackers like our linebackers, you got all of these guys 0:18:48.119 --> 0:18:51.920 can play special teams. But now that we have Covington, 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:58.800 we have Wilson, uh Leyton, the backup guys can actually 0:18:58.880 --> 0:19:02.960 get out there and beep effective special team players. Last 0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:07.000 year we didn't have that. Durant didn't play special teams, 0:19:07.680 --> 0:19:11.120 Sean Lee didn't play special teams. But also the guy 0:19:11.160 --> 0:19:15.040 that we lost that went to the to the Raiders, uh, 0:19:15.760 --> 0:19:19.600 a good outside linebacker, Wilber. Wilber, he couldn't. They didn't 0:19:19.640 --> 0:19:23.040 want him on the field as a linebacker. So that 0:19:23.840 --> 0:19:27.440 that was a waste. Because when you when you when 0:19:27.480 --> 0:19:30.800 you can have one or two or maybe three starter, 0:19:30.960 --> 0:19:35.760 specially guys that impact starters, not worrying about those fifteen 0:19:35.840 --> 0:19:39.240 to twenty plays. A special team. Now they're even fresher 0:19:39.680 --> 0:19:42.560 with the rotation, they're even fresher. So when the fourth 0:19:42.640 --> 0:19:45.480 quarter come, you ain't gotta be like how you feel. 0:19:45.840 --> 0:19:48.240 It's like, hey, let's line up and go get them. Yeah, 0:19:48.600 --> 0:19:51.240 man't worry, I guess. Yeah, you're gonna have guys that 0:19:51.640 --> 0:19:53.640 can cover special teams. But then you're just wearing out 0:19:53.680 --> 0:19:56.280 your you win out to start you win. See we 0:19:56.440 --> 0:19:59.920 had when when we played it was a select few, 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:05.080 you guys that were starters and played all four. Darren Woodson, 0:20:05.560 --> 0:20:09.560 you know he's played all regardless, he played all four. Uh, 0:20:10.320 --> 0:20:13.960 Moose Johnson, he played all four. You know. But these 0:20:14.040 --> 0:20:18.560 were unique guys. Jimmy tried to limit. Okay, if you 0:20:18.640 --> 0:20:23.520 got my guys started, I don't you know two you know, 0:20:23.840 --> 0:20:25.720 one of them on two special teams. Pick you two, 0:20:26.160 --> 0:20:28.159 He'll give you all he got for these two, you know, 0:20:28.680 --> 0:20:33.080 and uh backups truly had to not only be a 0:20:33.160 --> 0:20:37.159 special team guy, but an outstanding special team guy like 0:20:37.320 --> 0:20:40.760 Kenny Gant. You know, he made this team because he 0:20:40.880 --> 0:20:43.800 can I only could play the slot safety, but he 0:20:43.880 --> 0:20:47.600 could also be just a hellacious player and special teams 0:20:47.960 --> 0:20:50.600 and that kept him in the league a year or 0:20:50.640 --> 0:20:52.720 two extra because he could do that. I hope we 0:20:52.800 --> 0:20:57.040 have a few of those guys. They'll show up. Cavn Frasier, Yeah, 0:20:58.400 --> 0:21:02.320 he got a sack last week. Maybe two. Yeah, come on, now, 0:21:02.480 --> 0:21:05.440 you know heath Man, he you gotta tack a little better, baby. 0:21:05.480 --> 0:21:07.840 Come on. Well, Douglas, I think you said we had 0:21:07.880 --> 0:21:13.680 a caller, and I'm sorry I missed the name. Hello, Hello, 0:21:14.160 --> 0:21:15.920 are you there. I'm sorry I didn't get I didn't 0:21:15.920 --> 0:21:18.040