WEBVTT - Michael Mando on Returning to the MCU as Scorpion, his DC Debut & The Power of Perseverance 0:00:02.000 --> 0:00:05.320 Hey, guys, welcome to I've never said this before with 0:00:05.519 --> 0:00:09.680 me Tommy di Dario. Spider Man Brand New Day is 0:00:09.960 --> 0:00:12.600 easily one of the most anticipated movies of the year, 0:00:12.680 --> 0:00:15.240 and today I have a guest son who's been pretty 0:00:15.280 --> 0:00:18.079 tight lipped about anything related to this movie and his role. 0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:20.640 And let me be clear, this is not a spoiler 0:00:20.640 --> 0:00:22.880 Phil conversation, So you can feel free to listen to 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:24.640 this ahead of the release of the film, or if 0:00:24.640 --> 0:00:27.319 you've watched the movie, you're gonna really enjoy this. The 0:00:27.400 --> 0:00:30.360 conversation is a celebration, a celebration of my guests, the 0:00:30.560 --> 0:00:33.280 brilliant Michael Mando, who is stepping into the role of 0:00:33.320 --> 0:00:36.560 a villain after appearing in the MCU almost a decade ago. 0:00:36.640 --> 0:00:38.680 Can you believe that? And we're going to be hearing 0:00:38.720 --> 0:00:41.440 from him what it's like being on a Spider Man set, 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:44.000 what it's like working with Tom Holland and playing a villain, 0:00:44.040 --> 0:00:46.479 and did he have anxiety and fear about playing a villain, 0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:50.360 and what his personal fan favorite things in the MCU are. 0:00:50.640 --> 0:00:53.360 And you know, we ask some some fun questions. He 0:00:53.400 --> 0:00:56.040 doesn't reveal anything, don't worry, but we get a little 0:00:56.040 --> 0:00:59.560 insight into his mind. So my MCU my Spider Man 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:02.600 fans are love this conversation, and we're also celebrating some 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:05.360 other great work of Michael's and hearing some inspiring words 0:01:05.400 --> 0:01:07.720 that man, they really stayed with me since our chat. 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:10.560 So let's see if today we can get Michael to 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:14.639 say something that he has never said before. Michael Mando, 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:18.600 how are you, my man? Oh, I'm psyched to have you. 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:20.840 You have a lot going on. I'm surprised we caught 0:01:20.920 --> 0:01:22.680 youa it's like catch you if you can. 0:01:22.760 --> 0:01:24.960 Thank you so much. I appreciate it. Nice to be here, 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:25.880 Nice to be in New York. 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:27.000 Yeah, you like New York. 0:01:27.120 --> 0:01:29.360 I love New York. Every time I'm in New York, 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:32.240 it's like a new city sick and every time, depending 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:33.840 where I'm staying at and I look at New York, 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:36.240 it's like looking at a new city. It's and depending 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:39.040 what season you're in, yeah, it also feels different. 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:41.319 Yeah, I love I love New York. Oh my god, 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:43.480 Well we're happy to have you. Welcome to the city. 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:43.800 Man. 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:46.840 Ah God, we have a lot to get into. I'm 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:49.160 going to dive right in because we are so psyched 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:51.880 for Spider Man. I mean, nine years ago, let me 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:54.400 set the stage. Nine years ago, we were introduced to 0:01:54.480 --> 0:01:59.520 your character Scorpion right in Spider Man Homecoming, and it 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:03.120 was a little glimpse of him in that mid credit tease, right, 0:02:03.160 --> 0:02:05.280 we saw a little piece of him. Have you been 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:07.280 waiting for this moment all these years later? 0:02:07.600 --> 0:02:09.919 You know? It's funny. I didn't think I was going 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:13.320 to come back, So it honestly didn't cross my mind. 0:02:13.360 --> 0:02:15.080 I mean, at the beginning, you kind of think about 0:02:15.080 --> 0:02:16.840 it and you go, maybe it will and then at 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:19.200 some point you just stop thinking about it. When they 0:02:19.240 --> 0:02:22.079 called me back, we got a couple of meetings and 0:02:22.840 --> 0:02:25.440 I knew, you know, this is arguably going to be 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:27.640 one of the biggest films of all time, at least 0:02:27.639 --> 0:02:30.520 at the box office, and it's an amazing team and 0:02:30.560 --> 0:02:34.480 I love Tom Holland and destined director, and it was 0:02:34.560 --> 0:02:37.600 just exciting. I think there's a sense of gratitude, You're like, Wow, 0:02:37.639 --> 0:02:40.880 I get to go back on this gigantic stage. But 0:02:40.919 --> 0:02:43.600 then there's also with that sense of gratitude a sense 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:46.680 of responsibility where you go, all right, this is a 0:02:46.800 --> 0:02:50.480 huge character. I need to make sure that we get 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:52.040 it right, you know what I mean. So there's both 0:02:52.080 --> 0:02:53.840 of those axles happening at the same time. 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:57.239 So you really had no idea back then that one 0:02:57.320 --> 0:02:59.840 day you would be a key villain in a future movie. Like, 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:02.040 no one clued you in, no one had a conversation 0:03:02.080 --> 0:03:03.520 with you back then. It was just kind of this 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:05.200 little cliffhanger and then nothing. 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:08.720 Yeah. I mean, that's the way the industry works, you know, like, 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:10.320 you know you could do it, you do your thing. 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:12.520 I mean it was interesting because I had a scene 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:14.920 in the middle of that film that was cut in 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:18.079 the middle of Homecoming, So you know, this is how 0:03:18.120 --> 0:03:21.079 the industry works. It's you kind of get used to 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:23.200 it as an actor, and you kind of say to yourself, 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:26.120 you know this. You trust these people who are running 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:29.079 these amazing franchises that they know what they're doing and 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:31.119 that they're going to do what's best for the franchises. 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:33.680 And your job is to serve in any bait in 0:03:33.760 --> 0:03:36.280 any way you can, as the actor, as the character 0:03:36.360 --> 0:03:39.280 that you both agree to collaborate on. And in that 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:42.240 particular case, you know, it was just love and I said, 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:44.600 you know what, that's fine, let's let it go, let's 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:47.240 move on. And but I'll tell you I was very 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:50.560 grateful to get the call, and they're just as pleasant 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:53.680 as ever. And the vibe on that movie was really awesome. 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:57.960 Yeah. Yeah, So the scene that was cut, well, first 0:03:58.000 --> 0:03:59.320 of all, do you remember what that scene was? 0:03:59.440 --> 0:04:01.760 I remember getting I don't even know if I should 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:05.440 be I feel like I'm talking maybe too candidly. I 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:07.560 don't know. I mean, it's not it's not a bad thing. 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:11.320 I mean I received a really nice handwritten letter from 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:15.080 somebody on high up saying how much they liked the scene, 0:04:15.080 --> 0:04:17.359 and I was really excited for it. And I remember 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:19.040 bringing my father to the premiere. 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:23.080 Oh no, that scene came and went and I was like, 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:26.160 wait because you didn't know it was cut. 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:28.840 And then and then though, the credit scene that was 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:32.160 in the movie was actually an ad R scene, so 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:36.400 meaning none of the dialogue was original because we were 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:39.320 shot it in the prison in Atlanta, and the prison 0:04:39.400 --> 0:04:41.320 the people who were the I don't know what the 0:04:41.360 --> 0:04:43.679 right word to say, but the people who were jailed 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:47.080 there were very loud, you know, they were like yelling 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:49.600 and fighting and stuff. So we had to re record. 0:04:50.600 --> 0:04:55.160 So I didn't really, you know, particularly feel very confident 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:57.080 about that scene because I said, you know, it's all 0:04:57.120 --> 0:04:59.400 a dr it's none of it is the original audio. 0:04:59.800 --> 0:05:02.760 So as an actor you kind of generally like it 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:05.120 to be the original audio because that's when you had 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:08.159 your body into it and you know, the atmosphere and 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:10.159 everything was right. Doesn't mean you can't do it better 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:13.159 in an ADR session, but you know, so we try 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:14.680 to make it as well as we can. But then 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:17.320 that was a lesson when you go, oh wow, that 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:20.279 was like a moment, alerting moment for me as an actor. 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:22.680 And I think the trick is you just take it 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:24.760 in strides, you take it in love, and you say, 0:05:24.760 --> 0:05:26.479 you know, what's meant to be is meant to be, 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:27.159 and it's okay. 0:05:27.720 --> 0:05:29.320 You know, man, now I'm dying to know what that 0:05:29.400 --> 0:05:29.960 scene was. 0:05:30.520 --> 0:05:32.160 It was a scene in the It was a scene 0:05:32.200 --> 0:05:34.680 in the middle, in the on the ferry, on the 0:05:34.920 --> 0:05:36.880 in the boat. I mean, I was the scene was there. 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:39.599 It's just it was like cut to basically almost like 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:42.839 a you know, very short, and you realize that's just 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:45.520 the nature of the industry, you know. And I work 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:48.200 on music sometimes I do it as a hobby and 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:50.560 you bring in session musicians and they'll do like an 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:53.479 amazing guitar lick and you'll realize it doesn't fit in 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:56.040 the film Man, and that's so, and it doesn't fit 0:05:56.080 --> 0:05:58.360 in the song, and you cut it and you realize, 0:05:58.400 --> 0:06:01.400 all right, that's don't any of that personal. 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:03.520 Now, Yeah you can. I mean it's it's it's they 0:06:03.520 --> 0:06:04.839 got to do what they have to do to tell 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:06.240 the story they need to tell, right. 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:07.800 And clearly they're doing a great job. 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:10.960 Yeah, one hundred percent, one hundred percent. It's so wild, though, 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:14.719 what a journey from from that first you know, Glimpse 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:16.880 into Scorpion all those years ago, and then you see 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:19.800 all these other movies coming out from then to now 0:06:19.839 --> 0:06:22.760 in the Spider Man franchise, like I would be like, hey, 0:06:23.520 --> 0:06:24.360 am I coming back? 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:26.800 Did you forget it at the beginning? I think you 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:29.240 think about it. You know, sometimes your reps will reach out, 0:06:29.360 --> 0:06:33.800 But you know, I I'm really good. I moved around 0:06:33.839 --> 0:06:36.599 so much in my life. I traveled a lot before 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:39.279 the age of like twenty five, and lived in so 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:42.000 many different places. I think I've learned to let go. 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:46.280 I mean, in some things it's easy and some things 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:49.680 it's hard. Something's personal emotionally, sometimes it's hard to let go. 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:52.400 But in like the business side of things I've learned 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:54.960 to like, all right, this isn't this isn't an open door. 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:57.839 Go somewhere else. There's not. I think my advice to 0:06:57.880 --> 0:07:02.280 actors is especially younger actors, is it's it's not personal. 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:05.479 You know, none of that is personal. It's all you know. 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:08.080 There's this Sometimes you could be so good at something 0:07:08.960 --> 0:07:12.040 and it doesn't mean that because they said no in 0:07:12.080 --> 0:07:15.240 an audition or whatever, it is that you're not great 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:18.840 and that you were that you're wrong thinking you nailed it. 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:22.560 So that's that's not the way I think life works. 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:24.800 It's not a no is not always means no you're 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:27.960 not good enough. Yeah, sometimes it's just not the right 0:07:27.960 --> 0:07:28.520 time for you. 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:31.600 That's a good reminder too, because you know it's life too. 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:34.160 You can't control why things happen, and you can't sit 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:36.560 there spiraling about it either because you don't know. I mean, 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:38.000 I don't know what you don't know. But easier said 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:40.960 than that percent We've all been there. I've spiraled a 0:07:41.000 --> 0:07:42.920 million times in my life. You know what happens. But 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:44.280 what's your trick? 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:46.720 What do you do when you when you spiral, you 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:49.520 hear that little demon voice in your head that starts 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:52.520 going like whatever, whatever it is that it says, how 0:07:52.560 --> 0:07:54.160 do you get yourself back? 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:57.000 I try, And this is gonna sound really corny, but 0:07:57.040 --> 0:07:59.000 I try as hard as I can to root myself 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:02.000 in what I'm great for in the moment. Yeah, like, Okay, 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:04.360 this might not be going the way I want, but 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:06.960 this is also happening at the same time, and wow, 0:08:07.000 --> 0:08:09.440 how lucky I am to have that, and like, thank 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:12.200 you for allowing me to have that at least, And yeah, 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:14.840 we'll figure that piece out when we need to. So yeah, 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:18.040 just kind of checking myself too. You know, it's hard. 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:19.680 It's not like you said, we all do it. It's 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:23.160 not easy. But you're supposed to be where you're supposed 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:24.840 to be, and you're supposed to be a damn villain 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:26.960 right now. Man, You're supposed to be a villain in 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:29.240 the end to see you, I mean, that's like a 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:32.880 golden role that artists dream of playing, and here you 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:35.720 are doing it. And with that comes pressure and a 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:38.920 lot of expectation. Do you let that freak you out? 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:40.560 Or has that freak you out? When you were bringing 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:41.640 that character to life? 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:45.400 I remember I was in London, we were shooting Spider Man. 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:48.240 We had just finished shooting that scene in the trailer, 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:50.320 you know where I'm fighting Spider Man in a trailer 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:55.160 that came out and I saw the Scorpion character standing 0:08:55.160 --> 0:08:57.120 on top of me on my bed and the room 0:08:57.240 --> 0:09:01.120 was on fire. And I woke up and I was petrified, 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:04.160 and I said, what the hell? How can I be 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:09.400 afraid of something? I'm a character that I'm playing. So 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:11.439 that was, you know, I don't know if that was 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:14.480 an insight into what was happening in my subconscious, but 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:16.800 there is an element of pressure that you bury, I 0:09:16.800 --> 0:09:20.120 guess sometime and you say to yourself, all right, all 0:09:20.120 --> 0:09:22.839 I can do is my best and take it one 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:25.480 step out of time. It's like a basketball player. You've 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:28.880 got the you know, you've got the rim, and it's 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:31.600 you know, fourth quarter, two seconds left, you make the 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:34.200 shot and you win the championship. Yeah you don't. Everyone's 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:37.440 going to know it's you. You can't be thinking about that. 0:09:37.480 --> 0:09:40.280 You've got to clear your mind and just think about 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:42.640 the love of the game, the love of what you do, 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:45.559 and just let it go. Yeah, you know, and trust 0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:47.400 and let it go, Just trust that it's all there. 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:50.400 So is there something you absolutely had to get right? 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:52.480 In bringing this role to life, where you're like, I 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:54.559 gotta nail this part of it. 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:57.320 All of it, man. But I put that pressure on 0:09:57.400 --> 0:09:59.960 me with everything I do. I don't take anything. You know, 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:04.120 if I did a short film in between movies last 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:07.720 year and it was a it's called Boyfighter. It's on Hulu, 0:10:08.040 --> 0:10:12.280 and I literally got paid like one dollar for it. 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:13.600 I literally did it for free. 0:10:13.679 --> 0:10:13.840 You know. 0:10:13.920 --> 0:10:16.000 I just thought it's a great script, and I thought, 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:19.000 you know, I like this character, and I approached it 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:21.760 like it was, you know, the biggest movie in the world, 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:23.840 and I gave everything I had to it. So the 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:26.880 pressure I'm used to putting that pressure on myself no 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:31.800 matter what I do, healthy amount of pressure, because going 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:34.680 into a character is a skill. That's kind of what 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:37.880 we're focusing on now. But when I say healthy pressure, 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:40.720 you also got to learn to come out. And that's 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:42.400 a skill. Like you know, you and I are doing 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:45.720 this interview now, when we cut, you got to learn 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:48.960 to just go back to normal, go back to life. Knowing, 0:10:49.000 --> 0:10:50.760 for example, people are going to see this interview and 0:10:50.840 --> 0:10:53.360 maybe judge you on it or whatever. You still got 0:10:53.400 --> 0:10:56.960 to go back to normal, realize this is done now, 0:10:57.000 --> 0:11:00.520 it's like Michael the human being going on operate. What 0:11:00.559 --> 0:11:02.440 am I going to have for lunch? And call your 0:11:02.480 --> 0:11:04.600 loved ones and think about your cat or whatever it is, 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:04.840 you know. 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:07.400 Yeah, yeah, I always say that, like, you can't have 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:10.280 a real rich life if your whole identity is just 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:12.319 wrapped up on the work you're doing. And it's a 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:14.600 big piece of what we do. Obviously it's a very 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:17.960 different kind of business we're in. But you got to 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:21.000 have that balance. You got to go turn it off sometimes. 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:23.600 You got to do it all the time. Yeah, you guys, 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:24.720 as a matter of fact, you have to do it 0:11:24.760 --> 0:11:27.240 every time. Yeah, I think or else it's it really 0:11:27.280 --> 0:11:28.680 catches up to you. It's unhealthy. 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:29.480 Yeah, as a. 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:31.400 Young actor, I didn't know how to turn it off 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:35.200 because you because you're you're literally affecting your body. You know, 0:11:35.240 --> 0:11:37.839 Like someone says to you, how is your day right 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:41.960 at work as an actor and you say it was amazing, 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:44.640 and you said, what did you do? Well? I killed 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:48.280 somebody and then I had sex with someone in the hallway, 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:50.319 and then it got into a car crash, and then 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:52.360 I yelled at someone and someone yelled back at me. 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:56.080 And those are all your scenes right, and your body 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:59.680 is affected because you're actually yelling and you're actually falling 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:02.800 in mind you it's all fake obviously, but your body 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:07.480 is exercising some muscles. So was that really a good 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:09.560 day for anyone else in the world? It would have 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:12.200 been a horrible day. And you got your body's got 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:16.839 to learn to just you know, different, reset as quickly 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:17.480 as it can. 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:20.640 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, especially playing a darker role or a 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:23.960 villain or you know, something that's not who you are 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:25.920 day to day, which I think is a really interesting 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:27.800 job that you have and a piece of what you 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:31.280 do which is so fascinating. You earlier lit up when 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:33.839 you brought up your boy, Tom Holland like your whole face. 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:35.920 Everybody loves Tom. 0:12:35.920 --> 0:12:37.720 He's a great I just saw him. I was covering 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:39.840 the carpet for the Odyssey for a show I work 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:42.360 on called Extra and he's just like the nicest human 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:44.120 in the world. So how was it getting to see 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:47.079 him bring this iconic role of life and transform into 0:12:47.160 --> 0:12:48.320 him up close and personal. 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:52.000 He's great. I met him ten years ago. And his 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:55.400 partner is also grades and Die is also great, and 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:59.200 the director Destin is also It's a really good group. 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:01.560 Look you look at Tom and you can't help but 0:13:01.760 --> 0:13:05.200 respect and admire and love what he's done for himself. 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:08.720 He's created a beautiful career in a beautiful life, and 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:11.880 I think, you know, anyone who wants to see good 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:14.960 in the world wants to see more of that, especially 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:17.600 in younger people, and go like, yes, that's a good example. 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:20.199 There there you go. You know, his life is firing 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:25.239 family man. His family's around, doing good at work, helping everybody, 0:13:26.320 --> 0:13:30.640 giving his beautiful opinion on on the inside of the scenes, 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:33.120 and yen, you know his parents are there watching with 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:36.280 his dog. So it's like it's like, yes, more more 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:37.720 of that in the world, for sure. 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:38.920 We want the good guys to win. 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:41.960 More of that. Yes, more more people like that for sure. Yeah. 0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:44.080 What's it like doing a fight scene together? Are you 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:46.760 two just sewing the zone? Do you break? Do you laugh? 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:48.360 Do you kick the shit out of each other? And 0:13:48.400 --> 0:13:50.599 then go grab a beer? I mean, what is it like? 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:53.040 I think? I think? I mean, you know, you do 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:55.640 we tell, you know, people talk between takes and stuff, 0:13:55.880 --> 0:13:59.880 But I think in this particular case, you're my mind. 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:02.760 I always thinking about the scene and like, like, how 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:04.520 do we get to the other point and what to 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:06.760 do there. So you're kind of it's almost like a 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:10.240 fixed up putting together a puzzle this, you know, especially 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:13.600 because it's kind of although I've been a little bit 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:15.240 in the other one, it's kind of like a new 0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:18.320 genre for me, those kinds of scenes. Yeah, so my 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:22.480 mind was trying to figure out a little bit, you know, 0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:25.840 how how do I get to this point and stuff 0:14:25.880 --> 0:14:28.760 like that. But it's great. Sometimes you pinch yourself and 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:31.920 you look around and you go, wow, this is the 0:14:32.120 --> 0:14:36.000 iconic you know, Pinewood Studio theater in London where they 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:39.280 shot like all these incredible movies, And here you are 0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:41.480 on one of the biggest movies in the world, and 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:43.360 you're surrounded by people who are at the top of 0:14:43.400 --> 0:14:45.760 their game, and you're going, this is pretty cool. I'm 0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:48.880 lucky to be here. I'm grateful to be here, and 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:53.040 I'll do everything I can. Speaking of what happens, I 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:56.480 saw a shooting Star, I saw Double Rainbow. Sometimes you 0:14:56.520 --> 0:14:58.000 look up and you see like a shooting Star and 0:14:58.080 --> 0:14:59.000 studio and you go, what. 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:02.560 Can't this is my life? Yeah, here on set, I mean, 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:05.560 the biggest franchises in the world. I feel like i'd 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:07.560 be bawling, like walking on that side. 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:09.920 You're very grateful. Like I said, it's two it's like 0:15:10.000 --> 0:15:14.600 two emotions. It's like gratitude and responsibility. If I think 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:16.280 you need to just be like all right, I'm still 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:17.920 here to do a job, and I hope I do 0:15:17.960 --> 0:15:19.600 it as well as I can. I will do it 0:15:19.600 --> 0:15:21.640 as well as I can. I hope it's good enough, 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:21.960 you know. 0:15:21.960 --> 0:15:24.320 Kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, And aside from the emotions, 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:26.120 you have to bring in all of that. You know, 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:30.440 it's a physical role. I mean you're physically very active 0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:34.000 in this. Did you feel like you were ready for it? 0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:36.240 Did you get injured? Like how do you keep your body? 0:15:36.520 --> 0:15:38.880 Yeah? When you have to. I mean the character moves 0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:41.440 in a lot of like side movements. He does a 0:15:41.440 --> 0:15:44.680 lot of very like snappy side movements. And I quickly realized, 0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:49.320 all right, I need to work out for that particular movement. 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:52.400 So I started. They had a great trainer there and 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:56.240 she was helping us, helping me with those movements, helping 0:15:56.320 --> 0:15:59.040 me stretch before and after a couple of times. It's 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:01.880 especially like later into the night, your back would cramp 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:06.120 up and you need like the the people from like 0:16:06.160 --> 0:16:08.080 the medics to come and like press it down and 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:11.120 open it up and stuff because your back will just spasm. 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:14.240 But it's worth it. It's I love that stuff and 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:16.400 I try to do as much of the stunts as 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:18.600 I could. But there are some of those stunts that 0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:23.120 are like, like I couldn't do it. It's like you're 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:26.920 flying into a car and it's like full speed. And 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:30.200 those stunt guys, I mean, they they really take it, 0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:33.280 and I have so much respect for them. I see 0:16:33.320 --> 0:16:35.520 them and you look at them and you go, you okay, 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:37.560 and they just nod and you go that must hurt. 0:16:38.080 --> 0:16:40.840 And they do it again like a time. So respect 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:41.440 to the stunts. 0:16:41.640 --> 0:16:45.120 Respects a hard job, and they do it. Dan. 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:47.040 I mean, Tom does a lot of his stunts too. 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:49.800 He does He does a lot of the acrobatic stuff 0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:53.080 and all that stuff. I'm referring for my particular case, 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:57.040 I'm referring mostly to the hits. Those are like hard 0:16:57.040 --> 0:17:06.080 to do it. Man. 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:08.040 I'm like sitting here feeling so proud of you for 0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:10.719 taking on this role because it's such a big deal. Right, 0:17:10.840 --> 0:17:13.720 Like I said, we've been waiting for almost a decade 0:17:14.240 --> 0:17:17.760 for your portrayal of Scorpion, so it seems like you 0:17:17.760 --> 0:17:19.120 think we'll be pretty happy with it. 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:21.439 What do I think if people will be happy with it? 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:23.280 I can tell you I give my ale. You know, 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:26.200 I think it's no longer in my hands. I did 0:17:26.240 --> 0:17:30.600 everything I could. I'm proud of what I did. But 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:32.159 you know, you got to let it go, and you 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:34.040 just get it's no longer mine, you know what I mean, 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:36.800 Like it's it's in the editors, it's in the directors 0:17:36.800 --> 0:17:39.280 in marvels, it's in the audience's hands. It belongs to 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:41.480 the world now, and you just got to like let 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:43.199 it go and just say, you know, I hope it 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:43.680 works out. 0:17:44.040 --> 0:17:47.440 Does it feel like a fraternity being in an MCU movie, 0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:50.639 like between like meeting other actors who play superheroes or villains, Like, 0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:53.080 do you guys link up? Do you talk? Do you 0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:56.240 have a forever bond because you're in this world together? 0:17:56.440 --> 0:17:58.680 Yeah? Yeah, there's dinners and it's like only villains, and 0:17:58.720 --> 0:18:02.000 then there's just only hero No. Yeah, you know, you 0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:05.360 you try to build a friendship and a fraternity everywhere 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:09.919 you can. I think community is super important, and you 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:11.639 try to do it anywhere you can, you know. I 0:18:11.680 --> 0:18:14.240