Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty.
Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Jetty and now he Armstrong and Yedty.
Speaker 3: I can't help but wonder if the American people have
Speaker 3: given up on democracy simply because of what he's told us,
Speaker 3: what he wants to do, simply because of what the
Speaker 3: Supreme Court decided in terms of immunity. I mean, he
Speaker 3: has said he will he wants to go after his
Speaker 3: political enemies.
Speaker 2: I am your retribution.
Speaker 4: You can't wrap your head around why people might have
Speaker 4: voted for Trump and seta Harris other than people have
Speaker 4: given up on democracy that they want fascism serious.
Speaker 1: That is the Washington Post. In MSNBC's Jonathan T.
Speaker 4: Cape hert, it's the most amazing political story in US history,
Speaker 4: and that is not hyperbole at all.
Speaker 2: A clear winner.
Speaker 4: Donald Trump's comeback, after all, he went through the way
Speaker 4: he's been portrayed rightly and wrongly, and for him to
Speaker 4: win as easily as he did last night, including walking
Speaker 4: away with the popular vote, is a stunning political story
Speaker 4: and books should be written about it.
Speaker 1: They will, and I think we have the sol Award
Speaker 1: winner the idea of the Thomas Soul expressed that there's
Speaker 1: some ideas so idiotic only an intellectual could hold them.
Speaker 1: There is the learned and sophisticated Jonathan cape Heart describing
Speaker 1: world record turnout of people voting in free elections as
Speaker 1: abandoning democracy. I mean, you've got to go to the
Speaker 1: Ivy League to be able to wrap your head around that.
Speaker 4: Really, you don't think it could be inflation. I mean
Speaker 4: the history of horrible inflation is whoever's in power gets
Speaker 4: voted out. As Ian Bremmer tweeted last night, it's been
Speaker 4: a mood worldwide for the last couple of years. Practically
Speaker 4: every single incumbent has lost worldwide in elections.
Speaker 1: It's just that they're abandoning democracy and racism. The two
Speaker 1: of those things, wow or sexism are both are all three.
Speaker 2: It's this.
Speaker 4: You don't think a candidate or who refuses to have
Speaker 4: a press conference, who wants to have taxpayers pay for
Speaker 4: sex changes for prisoners, stop with their logic.
Speaker 2: It's burning me, it's burning.
Speaker 4: It's got to be people were attracted to authoritarianism. That's
Speaker 4: what it's got to be. Are you freaking kidding me?
Speaker 1: Michael, have the laugh ready. Uh, this jack is from
Speaker 1: an old friend of the show and one of my
Speaker 1: oldest friends, Mike's attorneys in Chicago. Tell me if they're
Speaker 1: a better joke than this. All day long, he says,
Speaker 1: the one constant is that Taylor Swift.
Speaker 2: Was wrong about a guy.
Speaker 5: Again.
Speaker 2: That's Korey. Are never ever, ever ever gonna reelect you?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Whoops, you know, sorry, We hit the really big things,
Speaker 4: which are freaking inflation. I mean, the whole thing could
Speaker 4: be boiled down to inflation and immigration. You let all
Speaker 4: those millions of illegals in, and inflation is what it is.
Speaker 4: The party that did that is gonna win roughly never.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: But if you want to get into all these different
Speaker 4: kinds of specifics, like Van Jones was talking about yesterday,
Speaker 4: all those celebrities you think that helped you in Michigan,
Speaker 4: Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, all the Beyonces and Bruce Springsteen's and
Speaker 4: all the different people, You really think all the celebrities
Speaker 4: is what makes people feel like No.
Speaker 1: It was turning inward in a weird way, not reaching out,
Speaker 1: especially to working Americans. It was just more of the
Speaker 1: elite congratulating the elite, speaking of which the Jonathan K.
Speaker 1: Part clip is just it's so amazing to me. I
Speaker 1: don't think you can overestimate the importance of the idea
Speaker 1: of the protected and unprotected classes in America for the
Speaker 1: Jonathan k parts of the world.
Speaker 2: If you were to bring up immigration to him.
Speaker 1: To him, it is an intellectual conversation, a theoretical kind
Speaker 1: of classroom conversation about race and bigotry and that sort
Speaker 1: of thing. There is no reality of rampant illegal immigration
Speaker 1: in Jonathan K.
Speaker 2: Part's world.
Speaker 7: No.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he has any kids or whatever,
Speaker 1: but they're not going to public schools. They're certainly not
Speaker 1: going to schools that are inundated with kids who can't
Speaker 1: speak English.
Speaker 4: That's never lived in a town that completely changed its
Speaker 4: character practically overnight.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, He's never lost his job because wages are so
Speaker 1: depressed because there are so many people flooding across the
Speaker 1: border well into work for practically nothing. He has never
Speaker 1: sat for hours in an emergency room surrounded by recent
Speaker 1: arrivals to the country. God bless them, are trying to
Speaker 1: improve the lives of their families. A lot of them.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: I'm leaving the Venezuelan rapists and gang members out of that.
Speaker 2: But it's entirely a theoretical.
Speaker 1: Discussion for these people, and when they bring nothing to
Speaker 1: working America but condemnation and judgment, when Working America is saying, hey,
Speaker 1: inflation has beat the crap out of me. And by
Speaker 1: the way, my kids' school can't teach the kids anymore.
Speaker 1: And all you hit them with is you're a bigot,
Speaker 1: vote for Kamala or you're a bigot.
Speaker 2: Or a sexist or anything. How do you think that's
Speaker 2: gonna play well? Right? And that's Jonathan.
Speaker 4: That's another one of the reasons that I was not
Speaker 4: happy like I was expecting to be last night, as
Speaker 4: kind of depressed. So Molly Hemingway tweeted out, Donald Trump
Speaker 4: just won the popular vote, and most corporate media outlets
Speaker 4: have only the microscopically tiniest handful of Trump voters on
Speaker 4: air or in print.
Speaker 2: That's one of the things that I thought is going
Speaker 2: to do us is.
Speaker 4: Everywhere I flipped other than Fox, it was entirely people
Speaker 4: who could never imagine voting for Trump.
Speaker 2: How do you run a news network.
Speaker 4: You're gonna have ten people on your panel, you should
Speaker 4: have obviously, statistically six of your ten should be people
Speaker 4: who vote for Trump. If you want to have an
Speaker 4: idea of the way America works, but you.
Speaker 2: Don't even have one.
Speaker 4: You don't even have one person that could imagine voting
Speaker 4: for Trump.
Speaker 2: And I'll bet this is even true.
Speaker 4: I'll bet you didn't have one person on your panel
Speaker 4: on there on CBS or whatever show it is, who
Speaker 4: even knows somebody who would vote for Trump. They don't
Speaker 4: even have an acquaintance who would ever vote for Trump?
Speaker 4: How are you gonna cover the country when that is
Speaker 4: the case.
Speaker 2: The problem with delusion is you don't know how deluded
Speaker 2: you are.
Speaker 4: I would think that'd be pretty obvious though you'd look around, Wow,
Speaker 4: he just won the popular vote by millions and millions.
Speaker 2: Did anybody here vote for Trump? Any of the camera
Speaker 2: people anybody? Do any of us even.
Speaker 4: Know anybody who would vote for Trump? That seems like
Speaker 4: we're a little.
Speaker 2: Out of touch.
Speaker 1: Well, and I love your mental exercise here, but I'm
Speaker 1: picturing the camera people and the electricians, some of the
Speaker 1: tape editors and all like wanting to raise their hand,
Speaker 1: not doing it.
Speaker 2: Might be yeah, anyway, So.
Speaker 1: We're going to take you through the evening a little
Speaker 1: bit through audio. This might take a little bit, but
Speaker 1: I think it will be enjoyable. Michael, you have the list.
Speaker 8: Oh.
Speaker 1: Audio will begin early in the evening with Abbie Phillip
Speaker 1: on CNN.
Speaker 9: One person, though, who doesn't really want to talk about
Speaker 9: winning is the candidate herself, Vice President Kamala Harris is
Speaker 9: almost superstitious about not wanting to have that kind of conversation.
Speaker 9: She has been head down all day today on the
Speaker 9: phone doing phone interviews with radio stations. One person who
Speaker 9: spoke with her recently said she wants to make sure
Speaker 9: every single vote is counted before her mind goes to
Speaker 9: that place.
Speaker 1: She's not even going to talk about winning because she's
Speaker 1: a little superstitious.
Speaker 2: Isn't that a great example of her hard work? Roll
Speaker 2: on this is van Ja.
Speaker 7: We know for sure that there is an authoritarian movement
Speaker 7: in this country. We know it's pulled in some amazing people,
Speaker 7: good people, union workers, veterans, some people here here with us,
Speaker 7: But it's led by somebody who's an authoritarian who does
Speaker 7: not believe in our constitution. That movement is strong. We
Speaker 7: know that it has pulled in the richest man in
Speaker 7: the history of the world. That's a strong movement. Elon
Speaker 7: Musk is pulled in one of the most famous political families,
Speaker 7: Rfk Junior with his whole movement of conspiracy people. There
Speaker 7: is a strong authoritarian movement. The question is is there
Speaker 7: a movement for freedom that can stop it. We're going
Speaker 7: to learn tonight.
Speaker 1: Van Jones is very bright and he is a decent man.
Speaker 1: He's wrong about a lot of things.
Speaker 4: Do you think Elon Musk was into Trump is into
Speaker 4: Trump because of the authoritarian side of him. No, he
Speaker 4: thinks one side believes in free speech, in one side doesn't.
Speaker 4: He's really worried about what the Democrats want to do
Speaker 4: with free speech for one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and for folks who are really concerned about Trump,
Speaker 1: and I know some folks are, and his his authoritarian
Speaker 1: impulses and excesses, and whether it will be surrounded by
Speaker 1: sycophans and that sort of thing, his overall nuttiness. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a good way to summarize it. I will tell
Speaker 1: you this, and I am one hundred percent certain this
Speaker 1: is true. There will arise in both the House and
Speaker 1: the Senate a caucus or a group of representatives, congress people,
Speaker 1: senators who will call themselves whatever blue dogs or the
Speaker 1: let's get going caucus or something like that. The moderate whatevers,
Speaker 1: and they will they will limit Trump's worst impulses, whether
Speaker 1: it's appointments or legislation or whatever. I just I have
Speaker 1: faith in the checks and balances of our system. Roll on, Michael,
Speaker 1: This one is Lyssa Farrogriffin on CNN.
Speaker 2: I think that they're nervous.
Speaker 10: I think that they're his behavior in the final stretch
Speaker 10: of it. I think they recognize their closing message was
Speaker 10: nowhere where it needed to be. And some of the
Speaker 10: early projections we're seeing show a momentum that I think
Speaker 10: a lot of Americans are feeling this Trump era maybe
Speaker 10: coming to an end.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: That must have been really early in the night, because
Speaker 4: it was apparent quite early, as Trump was getting more
Speaker 4: votes in every county that reported and she was getting
Speaker 4: less in Biden that it was not going to work
Speaker 4: out the way.
Speaker 2: They thought, Oh, let's not get ahead of ourselves. Jack.
Speaker 1: We haven't even featured the inimitable, the precious, the lovely
Speaker 1: Rachel Meadow.
Speaker 2: What's your name? Thank you so much?
Speaker 1: Say hi, I can't wait for you to grow ten
Speaker 1: years more.
Speaker 11: I mean, every candidy has a choice what to do
Speaker 11: with their last day on the campaign trail. I feel
Speaker 11: like actually showing up and doing some work is a
Speaker 11: good example to.
Speaker 2: Set later that same evening, and.
Speaker 11: Let's look at some calls. We've got a lot of
Speaker 11: states closing. NBC News can project at this hour in
Speaker 11: the Michigan presidential race that it is too early to call.
Speaker 11: In the Great State of Texas, NBC News projects that
Speaker 11: there is a winner that Donald Trump has won in
Speaker 11: the Great State of Texas. NBC News can also project
Speaker 11: a winner in the presidential race in North Dakota.
Speaker 2: The winner is Donald Trump.
Speaker 11: NBC News also projects a winner in the presidential race
Speaker 11: in South Dakota.
Speaker 2: The winner is Donald Trump.
Speaker 11: NBC News also suggests also projects a winner in the
Speaker 11: Wyoming presidential race.
Speaker 2: The winner is Donald Trump.
Speaker 4: NHL about to fall apart. I don't know why the
Speaker 4: networks do it the way they do it. That's why
Speaker 4: it was so interesting to take in Mark Alprin's newscast
Speaker 4: online in that he can and they can't just say
Speaker 4: out loud what all the behind the scenes numbers are saying.
Speaker 4: I mean, all those people, Rachel Matt, all those people
Speaker 4: on all those news channels, they knew hours before they
Speaker 4: admitted it. That she had no chance of winning. Meanwhile,
Speaker 4: hell is the evening progressed.
Speaker 1: You remember Abby Philip who gave us Camalis superstitious.
Speaker 2: She can't talk about winning yet. Okay, this is just
Speaker 2: a little later on.
Speaker 9: This Groupierre has been here for a little while now,
Speaker 9: and they've been watching the returns as they've been coming in.
Speaker 9: They want some good news tonight. I can feel the
Speaker 9: anxiety in the crowd. These are all people who want
Speaker 9: to have a party, they want to celebrate. There's been
Speaker 9: a DJ playing all night long. But the results are
Speaker 9: coming in and they're coming in slowly. But each time
Speaker 9: a race is called for Harris or she's shown in
Speaker 9: the lead in one of these battlegrounds, it is a
Speaker 9: big moment for the folks here at the Kamala Harris headquarters.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Later that evening they were struggling to comprehend how this
Speaker 1: could have possibly happened.
Speaker 2: And which is so revealing.
Speaker 4: And the woman that they were there to see wouldn't
Speaker 4: come out and even talk to them, just went home
Speaker 4: so incredibly weak. I actually wrote down what Right's Prebus
Speaker 4: said on ABC. I think about just how uncomfortable it
Speaker 4: was for her to leave all those people hanging who
Speaker 4: stood there for like hours waiting to see her, and
Speaker 4: you lose and you go home, come out there and
Speaker 4: say I appreciate all your hard work or something that
Speaker 4: is so freaking weak to.
Speaker 1: The idea of having no idea how this could have happened.
Speaker 1: Heard one commentator whose act I don't really know, really
Speaker 1: lay it down effectively, and we'll have him coming up
Speaker 1: in a couple of minutes.
Speaker 4: Heny of your thoughts. I need to get to some
Speaker 4: of your texts pretty interesting. What do you think this means?
Speaker 4: Text line four one five kfdcarro.
Speaker 5: It hasn't been completely college yet. We don't exactly know
Speaker 5: what all the results.
Speaker 6: Are going to be.
Speaker 5: Our time is running out. I do want to very
Speaker 5: quickly send a quick message to all the polsters, the
Speaker 5: election polsters call.
Speaker 2: Me, I don't.
Speaker 5: Ever want to from you again. Ever, I don't ever
Speaker 5: want to hear we've.
Speaker 2: Collected to the over connection. You don't know about shuck,
Speaker 2: don't care for you. So we haven't talked about polling yet,
Speaker 2: and we should. We did.
Speaker 4: We had it right yesterday in that the country has
Speaker 4: been misled as to what polling is in a variety
Speaker 4: of ways. The most revealing thing that happened in recent
Speaker 4: polling was that Iowa pull that came out Sunday. They
Speaker 4: got so much attention from the woman considered to be
Speaker 4: the best polster in America, Selzer, who had Kamalo winning
Speaker 4: by eight points I think or three points in Iowa
Speaker 4: and Trump ended up winning easily.
Speaker 2: That is what polling is.
Speaker 4: And as I've seen other polsters say, good on her
Speaker 4: and brave of her to put that out, because that's
Speaker 4: the way polling works. It's all over the place. It's
Speaker 4: a snapshot of a day. It's highly inaccurate. That is
Speaker 4: what polling should be. All of those other polls coming
Speaker 4: out being exactly the same. Were people just trying to
Speaker 4: keep their head down and not get in trouble.
Speaker 2: That's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: A polling can tell you it's going to be warm
Speaker 1: today or cold, and that's about it for what it's worth.
Speaker 1: Trump in Iowa by thirteen points, right.
Speaker 4: But that is whatever the right expression is, exception that
Speaker 4: proves a rule or whatever. All those other poles that
Speaker 4: were within a point every single time in every state,
Speaker 4: those were the lies.
Speaker 2: That was the hurting.
Speaker 4: That was the correcting your poll so that you fit
Speaker 4: in with whatever you want to fit in with it,
Speaker 4: share the guts to go out and just do polling
Speaker 4: best it can be done, which is incredibly inaccurate. That's
Speaker 4: what we all need to learn. Polling is incredibly inaccurate.
Speaker 8: Which polls all of them.
Speaker 1: Okay, so it looks like Trump won the popular vote
Speaker 1: by five million.
Speaker 2: Yeah, not even close.
Speaker 1: It is a giant map of redness with blue blotches
Speaker 1: on the edges.
Speaker 4: I should have done this as a tease. I can't
Speaker 4: believe this hadn't occurred to me yet. Not only is
Speaker 4: Trump the most amazing political story in US history, maybe
Speaker 4: in politics history, just in general, the whole crazy election
Speaker 4: with Biden in a seen island steps down, and you know,
Speaker 4: all the different things that happened. There might be one
Speaker 4: more amazing turn yet. And I could actually see this happening.
Speaker 4: Kamala Harris can still become the first female president if
Speaker 4: Biden resigns, and that would be a very Joe Biden
Speaker 4: thing to do to try to be historic or whatever.
Speaker 4: I think that could actually happen. That wouldn't surprise me
Speaker 4: in the least.
Speaker 1: How about you, It's absolutely possible. One of my favorite analysts,
Speaker 1: my wife keeps bringing up. I think Trump is going
Speaker 1: to resign at some point. I don't think he wants
Speaker 1: to do it for years. I think jad Vance is
Speaker 1: going to be president. He's not wrong.
Speaker 4: We did just elect the oldest person we've ever elected.
Speaker 4: He's older than Biden was when we elected him. Trump's
Speaker 4: old af As the kids say, we have a lot
Speaker 4: of it. We have a lot more on the way.
Speaker 4: If you miss an hour, get the podcast Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 2: On demand Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 4: So I got up this morning and I watched Mark
Speaker 4: Halprin's podcast that he did this morning, and he said,
Speaker 4: the most hilarious thing happening in America right now is
Speaker 4: MSNBC's coverage as they try to explain why Trump won
Speaker 4: so easily and including the popular vote and how far
Speaker 4: off the mark, they are just like, hilariously wrong. I
Speaker 4: find it depressing. He finds it hilarious. Maybe I'm just
Speaker 4: tired or something. I find it depressing. I think it's
Speaker 4: bad for the country that we have so much of
Speaker 4: our major media so bubbled or crazy or I don't
Speaker 4: even know what it is that they can't grasp the
Speaker 4: easy to grasp reality of inflation and open borders and
Speaker 4: some of the wok crap that's been going on that
Speaker 4: people don't like. It's not difficult, but listen. Listen to
Speaker 4: this paragraph that's in the New York Times today. The
Speaker 4: relative stability on domestic and international affairs during the last
Speaker 4: four years is about to be gone, replaced by a
Speaker 4: voladile president who often operates without regard to national president.
Speaker 4: The relative stability on domestic and international affairs of last
Speaker 4: four years is the most instable four years internationally since
Speaker 4: I was a tiny kid in Vietnam who wrote that,
Speaker 4: I don't know that that's a joke or even sarcasm.
Speaker 4: The last four years of stability domestically, Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm flappercasted by that. Somebody wrote that with
Speaker 1: a straight face, and then somebody decided to print it
Speaker 1: in the New York Times. That's their takeaway again. So
Speaker 1: I'm I'd like to be able to find it just funny.
Speaker 1: I'm troubled that people are so far off base. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm a middle child. I like to bring people together.
Speaker 1: I like to understand people. I don't just want to
Speaker 1: dislike them. I'd like to understand what's going on, and
Speaker 1: the best I can come up with. And I'm reading
Speaker 1: a conversation between some of the Washington Post's columnists who
Speaker 1: are aghast and shocked and trying to make sense of it,
Speaker 1: and they fit absolutely into what we're both talking about here.
Speaker 1: It's got to be because we've agreed that progressives tend
Speaker 1: to view things much more emotionally and doesn't make you
Speaker 1: feel good or make you look like a good person,
Speaker 1: as opposed to will this policy work, what will happen
Speaker 1: if we enact it, how will people react to that?
Speaker 1: What are the practical realities here? And it just must
Speaker 1: be in that emotional mind. If you see something that
Speaker 1: is at odds with what you wanted to see, you
Speaker 1: don't say, wow, I gotta change my calculus here because
Speaker 1: I was wrong about that. You just block it, you
Speaker 1: invented an excuse for it, or or I don't know,
Speaker 1: or you just you engage in denial. To write a
Speaker 1: sentence that unhinged. I mean, that's seriously, seriously kooky. That's
Speaker 1: got to be somebody whose wishes are so completely the
Speaker 1: father of their thoughts that those are the only thoughts
Speaker 1: that get in.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and particularly the the MSNBC crowd, the idea that
Speaker 4: Trump winning, you have to turn on the electorate that
Speaker 4: voted for him as being awful somehow. If Trump had lost,
Speaker 4: I wouldn't turn on the electorate that voted for Harris.
Speaker 4: I would have thought, Yeah, Trump's personality was just too
Speaker 4: much for most people to take.
Speaker 2: Yeah, wasn't disciplined enough. I wouldn't have thought so because
Speaker 2: all the voters are evil or something.
Speaker 1: It's very hard for folks like us, and I'm talking
Speaker 1: to a lot of y'all to get inside of the
Speaker 1: head of somebody who's just entire process for taking in
Speaker 1: the world is different than ours. But you've got to
Speaker 1: admit that exists. I'm fascinated by it. Yeah, I'm astounded.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm like Ruth Marcus, who's an exceptionally bright
Speaker 1: human being. She's a columnist for the Washington Post. Flaming lefty,
Speaker 1: but very bright. And you know some of the stuff
Speaker 1: she says in this conversation, she's talking about everything that
Speaker 1: happened over the last few weeks, all of Trump's unhindered
Speaker 1: re marks and self inflicted wounds. I don't they're asking
Speaker 1: the question, is it because he was a better politician
Speaker 1: than they thought? Or what she says Likewise, I think
Speaker 1: Harris ran a very good and disciplined campaign, far better
Speaker 1: than I expected, with a far more energized and unified
Speaker 1: party than on the day Joe Biden Withdrew and they're like,
Speaker 1: how they don't get how this happened. They called the
Speaker 1: transgender ads. She's for They them, he's for you.
Speaker 2: Vicious? Wow? But effective? What was vicious about that? Wow?
Speaker 1: Being against taxpayers who you know, I'm not gonna haul
Speaker 1: myself up on the cross, but taxpayers bust their ass
Speaker 1: to make their living. Then the government takes a chunk
Speaker 1: of that money away, money they could invest for their
Speaker 1: old age so they don't starve when they're old, or
Speaker 1: lack medicine, money that they could use to get their
Speaker 1: kid in education, or maybe their kid is sick or
Speaker 1: autistic or whatever, and they know they're gonna need every
Speaker 1: goddamn penny they can earn to protect that child through
Speaker 1: their life. But no, the government takes a big old
Speaker 1: chunk of that check, whether they like it or not,
Speaker 1: then gives a bunch of it to some murderous lunatic
Speaker 1: who thinks he's a chick so he can get his
Speaker 1: gens cut off. And you look at that ad and
Speaker 1: you say, wow, that ad is vicious.
Speaker 2: You can't even see the world through the eyes of working.
Speaker 4: Americans in this particular instance, if I want to keep
Speaker 4: my tax payer money to buy a new PS five,
Speaker 4: it makes more sense than me paying for sex changes
Speaker 4: for criminals.
Speaker 2: Good look forward, You're right.
Speaker 1: I may have over egged the pudding, but yeah, they
Speaker 1: the fact that they can't understand that outrage. It just
Speaker 1: goes to show how insulated and bubbled and elite they are.
Speaker 2: How do you not get that?
Speaker 4: What color is the sky in your world? And how
Speaker 4: is it not sepped through past tense? How is it
Speaker 4: not reached? The judges will allow it.
Speaker 2: It's funny.
Speaker 4: I've been playing a lot of scrabble with my son.
Speaker 4: I got to talk about that sometime, not today. There's
Speaker 4: so much going on today, but the scrabble with the internet.
Speaker 2: The Internet. Internet may have ruined scrabble, but how is
Speaker 2: it not reached the left.
Speaker 4: That even Hispanics don't like illegal immigration? Hardworking Hispanic men
Speaker 4: hate illegal immigration just as much as a lot of
Speaker 4: us do.
Speaker 1: I was gonna bring up rent control as a bad example,
Speaker 1: because the people in California just voted down a rent
Speaker 1: control measured by huge numbers. I'm so happy and proud
Speaker 1: of California voters. But whether it's like rent control or
Speaker 1: artificial minimum wage hikes, the fact that a lot of
Speaker 1: people don't understand how those are harmful.
Speaker 2: I understand that.
Speaker 1: I accept that I might not like it, and I
Speaker 1: will try to argue against it and maybe educate them
Speaker 1: about the realities of economics and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: But I get it, I understand it. I accept it. Hell,
Speaker 2: I can even respect it.
Speaker 1: You're wrong, but respect that you've come to that view,
Speaker 1: and I would like to talk to you about it.
Speaker 2: I just I do not understand.
Speaker 1: I cannot comprehend these people who can't even recognize why
Speaker 1: a voter is voting for what they're voting for. All
Speaker 1: they can go to is blame and judgment, without even
Speaker 1: the curiosity to seek a more full understanding. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I can't understand, Ruthmarcus. Again, I would say, I don't
Speaker 1: think this was about Trump prosecutions and Trump is a victim.
Speaker 1: Maybe I suspect this was more about voters anger and
Speaker 1: unhappiness at their own situations and about their own perceptions
Speaker 1: of themselves as victims, including of an elite that disdains them. Well,
Speaker 1: you got that right, than it is about Trump himself.
Speaker 1: We're an angry and divided country, a country where too
Speaker 1: many people are willing to blame immigrants for all sorts
Speaker 1: of woes. A country that is furious about prices that
Speaker 1: are not still not rising, or they're still not rising
Speaker 1: but they're too high. A country where too many people
Speaker 1: somehow find this strong man with his authoritarian impulse attractive
Speaker 1: as a leader, so she can't get past her own judgments.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: The key thing for the people that don't like Trump,
Speaker 4: this isn't entirely true, but it is for a lot
Speaker 4: of us. He won in spite of all that stuff,
Speaker 4: not because of that stuff.
Speaker 2: Yes, one, in spite of that stuff.
Speaker 4: We're putting up with a whole bunch of bad personality
Speaker 4: traits from the guy because he's better on all these
Speaker 4: different things that we've been talking about than the crazy,
Speaker 4: crazy left and all of the newsrooms who have no
Speaker 4: idea what's going on in the world.
Speaker 1: Right right, And then basing your entire campaign on Trump
Speaker 1: is Satan.
Speaker 2: Or Hitler or Hitler satan or something.
Speaker 1: Oh I get I'm famously a Trump skeptic, highly skeptical,
Speaker 1: and my reaction.
Speaker 2: To that is, yeah, we know.
Speaker 4: I can't wait to for the full autopsy by the
Speaker 4: Democratic Party for what they did wrong, including the turning
Speaker 4: at the end away from how you're going to fix
Speaker 4: the economy or whatever to Trump. Is Hitler deciding that
Speaker 4: was your closing message. So Scott Jennings is a panelist
Speaker 4: on CNN. He represents the conservative side. I don't really
Speaker 4: know his act very well.
Speaker 1: But there was a bunch of muling and garment tearing
Speaker 1: and shouting about racism and stuff on the CNN panel
Speaker 1: and they turned to Scott Jennings and he unleashed the following.
Speaker 6: This is a mandate.
Speaker 8: He's won the national popular vote for the first time
Speaker 8: since for a Republican for the first time since two
Speaker 8: thousand and four. This is a big deal. This isn't
Speaker 8: backing into the office. This is a mandate to do
Speaker 8: what you said you were going to do. If the
Speaker 8: economy working again for regular working class Americans, fixed immigration,
Speaker 8: try to get crime under control, try to reduce the
Speaker 8: chaos in the world. This is a mandate from the American.
Speaker 2: People to do that.
Speaker 8: I'm interpreting the results tonight as the revenge of just
Speaker 8: the regular old working class American, the anonymous American who
Speaker 8: has been crushed, insulted, condescended to. They're not garbage, they're
Speaker 8: not Nazis. They're just regular people who get up and
Speaker 8: go to work every day and are trying to make
Speaker 8: a better life for their kids. And they feel like
Speaker 8: they have been told to just shut up when they
Speaker 8: have complained about the things that are hurting them in
Speaker 8: their own lives.
Speaker 1: And sensing ahead of steam, mister Jennings, looking around at
Speaker 1: his fellow panelists, continued, I.
Speaker 8: Also feel like this election, as we sit here and
Speaker 8: pour over this tonight, is something of an indictment of
Speaker 8: the political information complex. I mean, we've been sitting around
Speaker 8: here for the last couple of weeks and the story
Speaker 8: that was portrayed was not true. I mean, we were
Speaker 8: told Puerto Rico was going to change the election. Liz Cheney,
Speaker 8: Nikki Haley, voters, women lying to their husbands. Before that,
Speaker 8: it was Tim Walls and the Camo Hats. Night after
Speaker 8: night after night. We were told all these things and
Speaker 8: gimmicks were gonna somehow push Harris over the line, and
Speaker 8: we were just ignoring the fundamentals.
Speaker 2: Inflation.
Speaker 8: People feeling like that they were barely able to tread
Speaker 8: water at best. That was the fundamentals of the election.
Speaker 8: And so I think that both parties should always look
Speaker 8: at the results of an election and figure out what
Speaker 8: went right and what went wrong. But I think for
Speaker 8: all of us who cover elections and talk about elections
Speaker 8: and do this on a day to day basis, we
Speaker 8: have to figure out how to understand, talk to and
Speaker 8: listen to the half of the country that rose up
Speaker 8: tonight and said we've had enough.
Speaker 2: Well, that's too bad.
Speaker 4: That guy is wrong, because Joe Scarborough just said if
Speaker 4: Kamala Harris were a six to four white guy who
Speaker 4: carried a shotgun and chewed tobacco, she.
Speaker 2: Would have won. Wow. Wow.
Speaker 4: So it's her color and her gender that kept her
Speaker 4: from winning, not the stuff that guy just said.
Speaker 1: That was a very gentlemanly explanation by mister jen I
Speaker 1: salute them for that. The summary, or you know, the
Speaker 1: dovetailing with that that I would hit the media elite
Speaker 1: with is that the average voter who just swept Donald
Speaker 1: Trump into office by huge majorities, out performing you know,
Speaker 1: recent candidates in virtually every county in America.
Speaker 4: He got the highest percentage for Republican nationwide since Reagan
Speaker 4: in eighty four.
Speaker 1: Right, and y'all are flabbergasted by this. It's because those
Speaker 1: voters spend ninety percent of their time on practical realities
Speaker 1: of the economy and their checkbooks and their kids and
Speaker 1: their kids' schools and the little boys eyeing their girls
Speaker 1: and girls' locker rooms and all of it, and they've
Speaker 1: got like maybe ten percent of their time to worry
Speaker 1: about who's calling home weird and who's wearing a camo
Speaker 1: hat and the stuff that mister Jennings mentioned ninety to ten.
Speaker 2: Y'all in the media, it's flip flopped.
Speaker 1: You spend ninety percent of your time talking about your
Speaker 1: high minded you know, you learned them and Wellesley and
Speaker 1: Yale principles, and then when you have ten percent, spare
Speaker 1: you say, and inflation, I hear has been tough on
Speaker 1: the working class anyway.
Speaker 2: Now let's go to Joy Reid. Joy, inflation is down anyway,
Speaker 2: Joe Joey.
Speaker 1: Reid would say, Okay, look at the scoreboard, Diches, That's
Speaker 1: what I would reply.
Speaker 4: Kamala didn't lose because she's a woman, But something about
Speaker 4: the last two female tickets worth pointing out among other
Speaker 4: things coming up stay here he yety. So we have
Speaker 4: two clips set up by our executive producer hands and
Speaker 4: we had Joe and I haven't heard, so this is
Speaker 4: a surprise. So the first one is according to Hanson,
Speaker 4: he says, this was the turning.
Speaker 2: Point in the whole thing. Let's hear this clip first.
Speaker 3: Well, if anything, would you have done something differently than
Speaker 3: President Biden during the past four years.
Speaker 6: There is not a thing that comes to mind in
Speaker 6: terms of and I've been a part of most.
Speaker 3: Of the decisions that have had impact.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if she had answered I'm going to kill you
Speaker 1: all in your sleep tonight, it would have been a
Speaker 1: better answer.
Speaker 4: You are right hands and that has been pointed out.
Speaker 4: And then when she doubled down on it, like the
Speaker 4: next day on the view with again. So yet you're
Speaker 4: reeling from that answer that everybody's saying, what and you
Speaker 4: do it again the next day?
Speaker 2: That was hilarious.
Speaker 4: Okay, now this one, make sure I'm setting it up
Speaker 4: correctly answering because I don't know what this clip is.
Speaker 4: This is an astute political observation by a pundit.
Speaker 2: There was a singing the most astute conservation. Let's ask
Speaker 2: for it. Let's hear it.
Speaker 6: When I was talking to the President the other night
Speaker 6: in the back, I told him I don't buy these polls.
Speaker 6: I've gone to eighteen different states. I'm pushing through all
Speaker 6: fifty in My fans are Democrats and they're Republicans. I
Speaker 6: see eight to ten thousand people a day Democrats and Republicans.
Speaker 6: They're all for Donald Trump. Middle America is so upsided
Speaker 6: it's unbelievable. But what you read in the press demonizing
Speaker 6: President Trump, saying we're all domestic terrorist, talking about the
Speaker 6: Nazi stuff. None of that stuff is true. And I
Speaker 6: told Donald Trump, I can't even buy into these polls.
Speaker 6: And when he says it's too big to rig, that's
Speaker 6: exactly where this is at.
Speaker 2: Now. That's hulk Hogan, Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1: Constitutional scholar, Hulkus Hogan, Holcus Ogan.
Speaker 2: You know that was pretty right. That was pretty damned right.
Speaker 1: Well and so plainly put in the style of a
Speaker 1: normal guy.
Speaker 2: Of asteroid freak yiss. Hey, Hey, it's the living even
Speaker 2: was making. It is the field he's in.
Speaker 4: You know what you gotta do, You know what you're
Speaker 4: gonna be a plumber, you buy some tools.
Speaker 1: You're gonna be an NFL lineman for being fat. You're
Speaker 1: gonna be in this job to be fat.
Speaker 2: Are you gonna be a wrestler? Yeah, it takes seroid's.
Speaker 2: They give them that big fat shot in the ass.
Speaker 4: And also have sex with your best friend's wife on video.
Speaker 4: Isn't that what that whole?
Speaker 2: No, that part's optional. Lawsuit Penglands brought back like that.
Speaker 2: Hanson says that was one of his childhood heroes, So
Speaker 2: be careful.
Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, yeah, how much hold back to your ear
Speaker 1: Slanders for once?
Speaker 2: Yeah, one minute.
Speaker 4: I don't want to launch into this yet. And our
Speaker 4: three from the wide world of news today. Some predictions
Speaker 4: from Mark Halpron on what's going to happen that I
Speaker 4: thought were really really good, So we will get into that.
Speaker 2: The I'm not fever dreams narious thoughts on the future.
Speaker 4: I will continue to take in a whole bunch of
Speaker 4: the mainstream I was going to say lefty media than
Speaker 4: mainstream media, but that is lefty media on seeing if.
Speaker 2: They can.
Speaker 4: Find their own asses in terms of figuring out why
Speaker 4: I Trump won and she lost. But so far I'm
Speaker 4: notscing in the indigation event No. Twenty sixteen taught us.
Speaker 4: There will be a few voices who say, Hey, we.
Speaker 1: Really need to get out in this country and get
Speaker 1: to know America again because we've lost touch. And people
Speaker 1: will rub their chins and say, yes, that's an excellent idea,
Speaker 1: and then forty eight hours later they'll have completely forgotten
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Hey, news organizations have like one person in your entire
Speaker 4: building that could ever even imagine voting for the Republican.
Speaker 2: That might be a good start. Good Lord Armstrong and
Speaker 2: Getty