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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty.

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Speaker 3: I can't help but wonder if the American people have

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Speaker 3: given up on democracy simply because of what he's told us,

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Speaker 3: what he wants to do, simply because of what the

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Speaker 3: Supreme Court decided in terms of immunity. I mean, he

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Speaker 3: has said he will he wants to go after his

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Speaker 3: political enemies.

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Speaker 2: I am your retribution.

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Speaker 4: You can't wrap your head around why people might have

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Speaker 4: voted for Trump and seta Harris other than people have

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Speaker 4: given up on democracy that they want fascism serious.

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Speaker 1: That is the Washington Post. In MSNBC's Jonathan T.

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Speaker 4: Cape hert, it's the most amazing political story in US history,

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Speaker 4: and that is not hyperbole at all.

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Speaker 2: A clear winner.

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump's comeback, after all, he went through the way

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Speaker 4: he's been portrayed rightly and wrongly, and for him to

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Speaker 4: win as easily as he did last night, including walking

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Speaker 4: away with the popular vote, is a stunning political story

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Speaker 4: and books should be written about it.

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Speaker 1: They will, and I think we have the sol Award

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Speaker 1: winner the idea of the Thomas Soul expressed that there's

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Speaker 1: some ideas so idiotic only an intellectual could hold them.

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Speaker 1: There is the learned and sophisticated Jonathan cape Heart describing

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Speaker 1: world record turnout of people voting in free elections as

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Speaker 1: abandoning democracy. I mean, you've got to go to the

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Speaker 4: Really, you don't think it could be inflation. I mean

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Speaker 4: the history of horrible inflation is whoever's in power gets

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Speaker 4: voted out. As Ian Bremmer tweeted last night, it's been

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Speaker 4: a mood worldwide for the last couple of years. Practically

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Speaker 4: every single incumbent has lost worldwide in elections.

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Speaker 1: It's just that they're abandoning democracy and racism. The two

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Speaker 1: of those things, wow or sexism are both are all three.

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Speaker 2: It's this.

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Speaker 4: You don't think a candidate or who refuses to have

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Speaker 4: a press conference, who wants to have taxpayers pay for

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Speaker 4: sex changes for prisoners, stop with their logic.

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Speaker 2: It's burning me, it's burning.

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Speaker 4: It's got to be people were attracted to authoritarianism. That's

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Speaker 4: what it's got to be. Are you freaking kidding me?

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Speaker 1: Michael, have the laugh ready. Uh, this jack is from

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Speaker 1: an old friend of the show and one of my

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Speaker 1: oldest friends, Mike's attorneys in Chicago. Tell me if they're

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Speaker 1: a better joke than this. All day long, he says,

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Speaker 1: the one constant is that Taylor Swift.

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Speaker 2: Was wrong about a guy.

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Speaker 5: Again.

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Speaker 2: That's Korey. Are never ever, ever ever gonna reelect you?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Whoops, you know, sorry, We hit the really big things,

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Speaker 4: which are freaking inflation. I mean, the whole thing could

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Speaker 4: be boiled down to inflation and immigration. You let all

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Speaker 4: those millions of illegals in, and inflation is what it is.

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Speaker 4: The party that did that is gonna win roughly never.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: But if you want to get into all these different

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Speaker 4: kinds of specifics, like Van Jones was talking about yesterday,

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Speaker 4: all those celebrities you think that helped you in Michigan,

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Speaker 1: It was turning inward in a weird way, not reaching out,

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Speaker 1: especially to working Americans. It was just more of the

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Speaker 1: elite congratulating the elite, speaking of which the Jonathan K.

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Speaker 1: Part clip is just it's so amazing to me. I

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Speaker 1: don't think you can overestimate the importance of the idea

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Speaker 1: Jonathan k parts of the world.

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Speaker 2: If you were to bring up immigration to him.

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Speaker 1: To him, it is an intellectual conversation, a theoretical kind

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Speaker 1: of classroom conversation about race and bigotry and that sort

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Speaker 1: of thing. There is no reality of rampant illegal immigration

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Speaker 2: Part's world.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he has any kids or whatever,

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Speaker 4: That's never lived in a town that completely changed its

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Speaker 1: Yeah, He's never lost his job because wages are so

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Speaker 1: I'm leaving the Venezuelan rapists and gang members out of that.

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Speaker 2: But it's entirely a theoretical.

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Speaker 1: Discussion for these people, and when they bring nothing to

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Speaker 1: And all you hit them with is you're a bigot,

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Speaker 1: vote for Kamala or you're a bigot.

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Speaker 2: Or a sexist or anything. How do you think that's

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Speaker 4: That's another one of the reasons that I was not

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Speaker 4: kind of depressed. So Molly Hemingway tweeted out, Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: That's one of the things that I thought is going

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Speaker 4: Everywhere I flipped other than Fox, it was entirely people

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Speaker 4: who could never imagine voting for Trump.

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Speaker 2: How do you run a news network.

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Speaker 4: You're gonna have ten people on your panel, you should

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Speaker 4: have obviously, statistically six of your ten should be people

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Speaker 4: idea of the way America works, but you.

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Speaker 2: Don't even have one.

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Speaker 4: You don't even have one person that could imagine voting

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Speaker 2: And I'll bet this is even true.

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Speaker 4: I'll bet you didn't have one person on your panel

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Speaker 4: even knows somebody who would vote for Trump. They don't

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Speaker 4: How are you gonna cover the country when that is

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Speaker 2: The problem with delusion is you don't know how deluded

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Speaker 4: I would think that'd be pretty obvious though you'd look around, Wow,

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Speaker 4: he just won the popular vote by millions and millions.

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Speaker 2: Did anybody here vote for Trump? Any of the camera

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Speaker 4: Know anybody who would vote for Trump? That seems like

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Speaker 2: Out of touch.

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Speaker 1: Well, and I love your mental exercise here, but I'm

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Speaker 1: picturing the camera people and the electricians, some of the

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Speaker 2: Might be yeah, anyway, So.

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Speaker 1: We're going to take you through the evening a little

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Speaker 1: bit through audio. This might take a little bit, but

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Speaker 1: I think it will be enjoyable. Michael, you have the list.

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Speaker 1: Audio will begin early in the evening with Abbie Phillip

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Speaker 9: One person, though, who doesn't really want to talk about

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Speaker 9: winning is the candidate herself, Vice President Kamala Harris is

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Speaker 9: almost superstitious about not wanting to have that kind of conversation.

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Speaker 9: She has been head down all day today on the

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Speaker 1: She's not even going to talk about winning because she's

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Speaker 2: Isn't that a great example of her hard work? Roll

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Speaker 2: on this is van Ja.

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Speaker 7: We know for sure that there is an authoritarian movement

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Speaker 7: in this country. We know it's pulled in some amazing people,

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Speaker 7: But it's led by somebody who's an authoritarian who does

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Speaker 7: not believe in our constitution. That movement is strong. We

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Speaker 7: Rfk Junior with his whole movement of conspiracy people. There

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Speaker 1: Van Jones is very bright and he is a decent man.

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Speaker 1: He's wrong about a lot of things.

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Speaker 4: Do you think Elon Musk was into Trump is into

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Speaker 4: Trump because of the authoritarian side of him. No, he

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Speaker 4: He's really worried about what the Democrats want to do

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Speaker 1: let's get going caucus or something like that. The moderate whatevers,

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Speaker 1: This one is Lyssa Farrogriffin on CNN.

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Speaker 2: I think that they're nervous.

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Speaker 10: I think that they're his behavior in the final stretch

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 4: That must have been really early in the night, because

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Speaker 2: They thought, Oh, let's not get ahead of ourselves. Jack.

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Speaker 1: We haven't even featured the inimitable, the precious, the lovely

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Speaker 2: What's your name? Thank you so much?

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Speaker 1: Say hi, I can't wait for you to grow ten

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Speaker 11: I mean, every candidy has a choice what to do

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Speaker 11: with their last day on the campaign trail. I feel

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Speaker 2: Set later that same evening, and.

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Speaker 11: Let's look at some calls. We've got a lot of

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Speaker 11: the Michigan presidential race that it is too early to call.

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Speaker 11: In the Great State of Texas, NBC News projects that

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Speaker 11: there is a winner that Donald Trump has won in

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Speaker 11: the Great State of Texas. NBC News can also project

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Speaker 11: a winner in the presidential race in North Dakota.

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Speaker 2: The winner is Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: The winner is Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: She can't talk about winning yet. Okay, this is just

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Speaker 1: Later that evening they were struggling to comprehend how this

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Speaker 4: And the woman that they were there to see wouldn't

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Speaker 1: The idea of having no idea how this could have happened.

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Speaker 4: Heny of your thoughts. I need to get to some

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Speaker 5: It hasn't been completely college yet. We don't exactly know

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Speaker 6: Are going to be.

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Speaker 5: Our time is running out. I do want to very

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Speaker 2: Me, I don't.

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Speaker 5: Ever want to from you again. Ever, I don't ever

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Speaker 2: Collected to the over connection. You don't know about shuck,

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Speaker 4: We had it right yesterday in that the country has

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Speaker 2: That is what polling is.

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Speaker 4: And as I've seen other polsters say, good on her

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Speaker 2: That's ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: A polling can tell you it's going to be warm

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Speaker 4: But that is whatever the right expression is, exception that

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Speaker 4: those were the lies.

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Speaker 2: That was the hurting.

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Speaker 4: That was the correcting your poll so that you fit

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Speaker 4: share the guts to go out and just do polling

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Speaker 4: best it can be done, which is incredibly inaccurate. That's

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Speaker 4: what we all need to learn. Polling is incredibly inaccurate.

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Speaker 8: Which polls all of them.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so it looks like Trump won the popular vote

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Speaker 1: by five million.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not even close.

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Speaker 1: It is a giant map of redness with blue blotches

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Speaker 4: I should have done this as a tease. I can't

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Speaker 4: believe this hadn't occurred to me yet. Not only is

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Speaker 4: Trump the most amazing political story in US history, maybe

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Speaker 4: more amazing turn yet. And I could actually see this happening.

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Speaker 4: Kamala Harris can still become the first female president if

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Speaker 1: How about you, It's absolutely possible. One of my favorite analysts,

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Speaker 4: We did just elect the oldest person we've ever elected.

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Speaker 4: He's older than Biden was when we elected him. Trump's

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Speaker 4: old af As the kids say, we have a lot

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Speaker 4: If you miss an hour, get the podcast Armstrong and Getty.

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Speaker 2: On demand Armstrong and Getty.

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Speaker 4: So I got up this morning and I watched Mark

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Speaker 4: Halprin's podcast that he did this morning, and he said,

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Speaker 4: the most hilarious thing happening in America right now is

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Speaker 4: this paragraph that's in the New York Times today. The

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Speaker 4: The relative stability on domestic and international affairs of last

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Speaker 1: I'm a middle child. I like to bring people together.

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Speaker 1: It's got to be because we've agreed that progressives tend

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and particularly the the MSNBC crowd, the idea that

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Speaker 1: It's very hard for folks like us, and I'm talking

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm like Ruth Marcus, who's an exceptionally bright

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Speaker 2: Vicious? Wow? But effective? What was vicious about that? Wow?

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Speaker 1: Being against taxpayers who you know, I'm not gonna haul

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Speaker 2: You can't even see the world through the eyes of working.

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Speaker 4: for criminals.

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Speaker 2: Good look forward, You're right.

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Speaker 1: goes to show how insulated and bubbled and elite they are.

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Speaker 2: How do you not get that?

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Speaker 4: What color is the sky in your world? And how

448
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Speaker 4: is it not sepped through past tense? How is it

449
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Speaker 4: not reached? The judges will allow it.

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Speaker 2: It's funny.

451
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Speaker 4: I've been playing a lot of scrabble with my son.

452
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Speaker 4: I got to talk about that sometime, not today. There's

453
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Speaker 4: so much going on today, but the scrabble with the internet.

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Speaker 2: The Internet. Internet may have ruined scrabble, but how is

455
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Speaker 2: it not reached the left.

456
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Speaker 4: That even Hispanics don't like illegal immigration? Hardworking Hispanic men

457
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Speaker 4: hate illegal immigration just as much as a lot of

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Speaker 4: us do.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna bring up rent control as a bad example,

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Speaker 1: because the people in California just voted down a rent

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Speaker 1: control measured by huge numbers. I'm so happy and proud

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Speaker 1: of California voters. But whether it's like rent control or

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Speaker 1: artificial minimum wage hikes, the fact that a lot of

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Speaker 1: people don't understand how those are harmful.

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Speaker 2: I understand that.

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Speaker 1: I accept that I might not like it, and I

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Speaker 1: will try to argue against it and maybe educate them

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Speaker 1: about the realities of economics and stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: But I get it, I understand it. I accept it. Hell,

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Speaker 2: I can even respect it.

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Speaker 1: You're wrong, but respect that you've come to that view,

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Speaker 1: and I would like to talk to you about it.

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Speaker 2: I just I do not understand.

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Speaker 1: I cannot comprehend these people who can't even recognize why

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Speaker 1: a voter is voting for what they're voting for. All

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Speaker 1: they can go to is blame and judgment, without even

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Speaker 1: the curiosity to seek a more full understanding. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: I can't understand, Ruthmarcus. Again, I would say, I don't

479
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Speaker 1: think this was about Trump prosecutions and Trump is a victim.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I suspect this was more about voters anger and

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Speaker 1: unhappiness at their own situations and about their own perceptions

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Speaker 1: of themselves as victims, including of an elite that disdains them. Well,

483
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Speaker 1: you got that right, than it is about Trump himself.

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Speaker 1: We're an angry and divided country, a country where too

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Speaker 1: many people are willing to blame immigrants for all sorts

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Speaker 1: of woes. A country that is furious about prices that

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Speaker 1: are not still not rising, or they're still not rising

488
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Speaker 1: but they're too high. A country where too many people

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Speaker 1: somehow find this strong man with his authoritarian impulse attractive

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Speaker 1: as a leader, so she can't get past her own judgments.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 4: The key thing for the people that don't like Trump,

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Speaker 4: this isn't entirely true, but it is for a lot

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Speaker 4: of us. He won in spite of all that stuff,

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Speaker 4: not because of that stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yes, one, in spite of that stuff.

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Speaker 4: We're putting up with a whole bunch of bad personality

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Speaker 4: traits from the guy because he's better on all these

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Speaker 4: different things that we've been talking about than the crazy,

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Speaker 4: crazy left and all of the newsrooms who have no

501
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Speaker 4: idea what's going on in the world.

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Speaker 1: Right right, And then basing your entire campaign on Trump

503
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Speaker 1: is Satan.

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Speaker 2: Or Hitler or Hitler satan or something.

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Speaker 1: Oh I get I'm famously a Trump skeptic, highly skeptical,

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Speaker 1: and my reaction.

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Speaker 2: To that is, yeah, we know.

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Speaker 4: I can't wait to for the full autopsy by the

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Speaker 4: Democratic Party for what they did wrong, including the turning

510
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Speaker 4: at the end away from how you're going to fix

511
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Speaker 4: the economy or whatever to Trump. Is Hitler deciding that

512
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Speaker 4: was your closing message. So Scott Jennings is a panelist

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Speaker 4: on CNN. He represents the conservative side. I don't really

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Speaker 4: know his act very well.

515
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Speaker 1: But there was a bunch of muling and garment tearing

516
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Speaker 1: and shouting about racism and stuff on the CNN panel

517
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Speaker 1: and they turned to Scott Jennings and he unleashed the following.

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Speaker 6: This is a mandate.

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Speaker 8: He's won the national popular vote for the first time

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Speaker 8: since for a Republican for the first time since two

521
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Speaker 8: thousand and four. This is a big deal. This isn't

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Speaker 8: backing into the office. This is a mandate to do

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Speaker 8: what you said you were going to do. If the

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Speaker 8: economy working again for regular working class Americans, fixed immigration,

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Speaker 8: try to get crime under control, try to reduce the

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Speaker 8: chaos in the world. This is a mandate from the American.

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Speaker 2: People to do that.

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Speaker 8: I'm interpreting the results tonight as the revenge of just

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Speaker 8: the regular old working class American, the anonymous American who

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Speaker 8: has been crushed, insulted, condescended to. They're not garbage, they're

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Speaker 8: not Nazis. They're just regular people who get up and

532
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Speaker 8: go to work every day and are trying to make

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Speaker 8: a better life for their kids. And they feel like

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Speaker 8: they have been told to just shut up when they

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Speaker 8: have complained about the things that are hurting them in

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Speaker 8: their own lives.

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Speaker 1: And sensing ahead of steam, mister Jennings, looking around at

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Speaker 1: his fellow panelists, continued, I.

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Speaker 8: Also feel like this election, as we sit here and

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Speaker 8: pour over this tonight, is something of an indictment of

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Speaker 8: the political information complex. I mean, we've been sitting around

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Speaker 8: here for the last couple of weeks and the story

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Speaker 8: that was portrayed was not true. I mean, we were

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Speaker 8: told Puerto Rico was going to change the election. Liz Cheney,

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Speaker 8: Nikki Haley, voters, women lying to their husbands. Before that,

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Speaker 8: it was Tim Walls and the Camo Hats. Night after

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Speaker 8: night after night. We were told all these things and

548
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Speaker 8: gimmicks were gonna somehow push Harris over the line, and

549
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Speaker 8: we were just ignoring the fundamentals.

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Speaker 2: Inflation.

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Speaker 8: People feeling like that they were barely able to tread

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Speaker 8: water at best. That was the fundamentals of the election.

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Speaker 8: And so I think that both parties should always look

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Speaker 8: at the results of an election and figure out what

555
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Speaker 8: went right and what went wrong. But I think for

556
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Speaker 8: all of us who cover elections and talk about elections

557
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Speaker 8: and do this on a day to day basis, we

558
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Speaker 8: have to figure out how to understand, talk to and

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Speaker 8: listen to the half of the country that rose up

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Speaker 8: tonight and said we've had enough.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's too bad.

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Speaker 4: That guy is wrong, because Joe Scarborough just said if

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Speaker 4: Kamala Harris were a six to four white guy who

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Speaker 4: carried a shotgun and chewed tobacco, she.

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Speaker 2: Would have won. Wow. Wow.

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Speaker 4: So it's her color and her gender that kept her

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Speaker 4: from winning, not the stuff that guy just said.

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Speaker 1: That was a very gentlemanly explanation by mister jen I

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Speaker 1: salute them for that. The summary, or you know, the

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Speaker 1: dovetailing with that that I would hit the media elite

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Speaker 1: with is that the average voter who just swept Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump into office by huge majorities, out performing you know,

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Speaker 1: recent candidates in virtually every county in America.

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Speaker 4: He got the highest percentage for Republican nationwide since Reagan

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Speaker 4: in eighty four.

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Speaker 1: Right, and y'all are flabbergasted by this. It's because those

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Speaker 1: voters spend ninety percent of their time on practical realities

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Speaker 1: of the economy and their checkbooks and their kids and

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Speaker 1: their kids' schools and the little boys eyeing their girls

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Speaker 1: and girls' locker rooms and all of it, and they've

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Speaker 1: got like maybe ten percent of their time to worry

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Speaker 1: about who's calling home weird and who's wearing a camo

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Speaker 1: hat and the stuff that mister Jennings mentioned ninety to ten.

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Speaker 2: Y'all in the media, it's flip flopped.

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Speaker 1: You spend ninety percent of your time talking about your

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Speaker 1: high minded you know, you learned them and Wellesley and

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Speaker 1: Yale principles, and then when you have ten percent, spare

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Speaker 1: you say, and inflation, I hear has been tough on

589
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Speaker 1: the working class anyway.

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Speaker 2: Now let's go to Joy Reid. Joy, inflation is down anyway,

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Speaker 2: Joe Joey.

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Speaker 1: Reid would say, Okay, look at the scoreboard, Diches, That's

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Speaker 1: what I would reply.

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Speaker 4: Kamala didn't lose because she's a woman, But something about

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Speaker 4: the last two female tickets worth pointing out among other

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Speaker 4: things coming up stay here he yety. So we have

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Speaker 4: two clips set up by our executive producer hands and

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Speaker 4: we had Joe and I haven't heard, so this is

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Speaker 4: a surprise. So the first one is according to Hanson,

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Speaker 4: he says, this was the turning.

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Speaker 2: Point in the whole thing. Let's hear this clip first.

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Speaker 3: Well, if anything, would you have done something differently than

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Speaker 3: President Biden during the past four years.

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Speaker 6: There is not a thing that comes to mind in

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Speaker 6: terms of and I've been a part of most.

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Speaker 3: Of the decisions that have had impact.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if she had answered I'm going to kill you

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Speaker 1: all in your sleep tonight, it would have been a

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Speaker 1: better answer.

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Speaker 4: You are right hands and that has been pointed out.

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Speaker 4: And then when she doubled down on it, like the

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Speaker 4: next day on the view with again. So yet you're

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Speaker 4: reeling from that answer that everybody's saying, what and you

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Speaker 4: do it again the next day?

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Speaker 2: That was hilarious.

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Speaker 4: Okay, now this one, make sure I'm setting it up

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Speaker 4: correctly answering because I don't know what this clip is.

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Speaker 4: This is an astute political observation by a pundit.

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Speaker 2: There was a singing the most astute conservation. Let's ask

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Speaker 2: for it. Let's hear it.

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Speaker 6: When I was talking to the President the other night

622
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Speaker 6: in the back, I told him I don't buy these polls.

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Speaker 6: I've gone to eighteen different states. I'm pushing through all

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Speaker 6: fifty in My fans are Democrats and they're Republicans. I

625
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Speaker 6: see eight to ten thousand people a day Democrats and Republicans.

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Speaker 6: They're all for Donald Trump. Middle America is so upsided

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Speaker 6: it's unbelievable. But what you read in the press demonizing

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Speaker 6: President Trump, saying we're all domestic terrorist, talking about the

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Speaker 6: Nazi stuff. None of that stuff is true. And I

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Speaker 6: told Donald Trump, I can't even buy into these polls.

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Speaker 6: And when he says it's too big to rig, that's

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Speaker 6: exactly where this is at.

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Speaker 2: Now. That's hulk Hogan, Ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: Constitutional scholar, Hulkus Hogan, Holcus Ogan.

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Speaker 2: You know that was pretty right. That was pretty damned right.

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Speaker 1: Well and so plainly put in the style of a

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Speaker 1: normal guy.

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Speaker 2: Of asteroid freak yiss. Hey, Hey, it's the living even

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Speaker 2: was making. It is the field he's in.

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Speaker 4: You know what you gotta do, You know what you're

641
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Speaker 4: gonna be a plumber, you buy some tools.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna be an NFL lineman for being fat. You're

643
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Speaker 1: gonna be in this job to be fat.

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Speaker 2: Are you gonna be a wrestler? Yeah, it takes seroid's.

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Speaker 2: They give them that big fat shot in the ass.

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Speaker 4: And also have sex with your best friend's wife on video.

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Speaker 4: Isn't that what that whole?

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Speaker 2: No, that part's optional. Lawsuit Penglands brought back like that.

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Speaker 2: Hanson says that was one of his childhood heroes, So

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Speaker 2: be careful.

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Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, yeah, how much hold back to your ear

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Speaker 1: Slanders for once?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, one minute.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to launch into this yet. And our

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Speaker 4: three from the wide world of news today. Some predictions

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Speaker 4: from Mark Halpron on what's going to happen that I

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Speaker 4: thought were really really good, So we will get into that.

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Speaker 2: The I'm not fever dreams narious thoughts on the future.

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Speaker 4: I will continue to take in a whole bunch of

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Speaker 4: the mainstream I was going to say lefty media than

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Speaker 4: mainstream media, but that is lefty media on seeing if.

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Speaker 2: They can.

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Speaker 4: Find their own asses in terms of figuring out why

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Speaker 4: I Trump won and she lost. But so far I'm

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Speaker 4: notscing in the indigation event No. Twenty sixteen taught us.

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Speaker 4: There will be a few voices who say, Hey, we.

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Speaker 1: Really need to get out in this country and get

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Speaker 1: to know America again because we've lost touch. And people

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Speaker 1: will rub their chins and say, yes, that's an excellent idea,

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Speaker 1: and then forty eight hours later they'll have completely forgotten

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Speaker 1: about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Hey, news organizations have like one person in your entire

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Speaker 4: building that could ever even imagine voting for the Republican.

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Speaker 2: That might be a good start. Good Lord Armstrong and

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Speaker 2: Getty