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Speaker 1: Everybody get a chance and kind of chill out. The
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Speaker 1: thank you, beam, I love it. Nate stopped there. Nate
Speaker 1: stopped me in the hallway Friday, and we was just hey,
Speaker 1: it's good to see it. Hey, by the way, we're
Speaker 1: number one, all right, we're the number one show. I'm like,
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Speaker 1: one to dive into that competition to do that now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's we'll just keep doing our keep doing our thing,
Speaker 1: have some fun, focus on what we can control, right, guys,
Speaker 1: That's how we do it. So do the guys. What's
Speaker 1: the schedule this week? Players are back in the building
Speaker 1: today and just start a normal week. Finally, I think
Speaker 1: they're off tomorrow and then get back to work practice
Speaker 1: on Wednesday. So they had Friday, Saturday, Sunday off three
Speaker 1: straight days. Oh that's nice. And then today they're back
Speaker 1: but it's just meetings and workouts. Tomorrow completely off again,
Speaker 1: which believes so yeah, and then Wednesday full padded practice.
Speaker 1: Thursday probably a lighter practice, padded practice normally the padded
Speaker 1: practices or Thursday, Oh okay, those are the those are
Speaker 1: the big days of the week. They're running out of
Speaker 1: padded practices. I don't know how many they have left.
Speaker 1: Teams get an allotment every week. I know Isaiah loves this.
Speaker 1: They're running out of padded practices. It's probably only two
Speaker 1: or three left for those For those of you at
Speaker 1: home listening to talking Cowboys and not watching you could
Speaker 1: probably hear Isaiah is madness. Were you good for them?
Speaker 1: Were they doing two days when you can days? Get
Speaker 1: real to? Day twenty eleven was the lockout and that's
Speaker 1: when everything that's anything changed. Yeah, yeah, I came in
Speaker 1: a No. Seven. So what was that like compared to
Speaker 1: what they have today? It's this is this is fluff.
Speaker 1: They get't pay more money than their bodies are less
Speaker 1: wearing tear on their bodies during the week. It's great
Speaker 1: for them, right, I mean that's what they great job,
Speaker 1: you know, a great job negotiating that. We just didn't
Speaker 1: have that luxury. Did you have an opportunity late in
Speaker 1: your career to have that sort of schedule? It eased
Speaker 1: up towards the end of my career, it did ease
Speaker 1: up where we would have one practice and one walkthrough.
Speaker 1: That's what I think our two a days ended up
Speaker 1: turning into and we were like laughing. Everybody was like,
Speaker 1: are you serious right now? So that was kind of
Speaker 1: the start of it. But now this days off during
Speaker 1: the week, are you kidding me? Like, no, that wasn't
Speaker 1: a thing. That was not a thing. It ramped up,
Speaker 1: It ramped up quickly, It's a delicate balance because you're
Speaker 1: trying to protect guys from injury all the way starting
Speaker 1: in OTA's But then how what's the juggling act with
Speaker 1: the quality of play? Is the quality of play what
Speaker 1: it should be? Have we seen the drop off in
Speaker 1: quality of play since this has happened. I think last year.
Speaker 1: We did last year for sure. But then you also
Speaker 1: add an additional game to the season, So I think
Speaker 1: that's the maybe the thinking going into it. I'm sorry, Isaiah,
Speaker 1: but that's what it is. They're trying to save guys
Speaker 1: with the extra game, which makes sense, and should they
Speaker 1: add an extra buy, they'll probably add an extra game
Speaker 1: as well as you stated, and probably dumb the rules
Speaker 1: down a little bit more. But you know think, I
Speaker 1: think health wise, it doesn't matter how they do it.
Speaker 1: You can tell all around the league that they are
Speaker 1: teams that have beat up a lot of people, getting
Speaker 1: a lot of injuries yesterday too. Yeah, some bad ones.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, really bad one. Unfortunately for Washington it sucks
Speaker 1: for him. Yeah you want to go through that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, was it Logan Thomas looks looks like it's
Speaker 1: going to be an acel for him. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: really unfortant that. I hate seeing guys get hurting like that.
Speaker 1: I hate it. Obviously it's easier to come back from
Speaker 1: a cl injuries now, but I see, I feel like
Speaker 1: we're seeing this a lot this year. Every year it
Speaker 1: seems like there's one injury that kind of plays the
Speaker 1: whole league. Then this year, I believe it's the acl'
Speaker 1: sat sock tissue. Yeah. Yeah, I mean that's your that's
Speaker 1: the whole right there. Yeah, I mean that's a that's now.
Speaker 1: I think that's a solid seven eight month recovery. Back
Speaker 1: in the day used to be like a good year.
Speaker 1: So I mean the recovery's gotten better, but that alters trajectory. Yeah,
Speaker 1: also is the trajectory of somebody's career. Potentially, depending on
Speaker 1: what your contracts are and where you're at in the negotiations,
Speaker 1: you're not going to get with you the value that
Speaker 1: you should have gotten until you come back and show
Speaker 1: that you can that you can come back from that injury.
Speaker 1: And it's just unfortunate. It's fortunate for Dallas they don't
Speaker 1: have to worry about him this week, but it's really
Speaker 1: unfortunate for him and that organization because he's a big
Speaker 1: part of their offense. Well, you'd rather have to try
Speaker 1: and take him out of the picture from a game
Speaker 1: plan states that half him an injured. Nobody ever wants
Speaker 1: that to happen. And you saw that last year with
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. I mean, as much as people hate the
Speaker 1: Cowboys outside of being a Cowboys fan, there was so
Speaker 1: much love around the league for Dak whenever he went down.
Speaker 1: You never want that to happen. You never wish that
Speaker 1: upon anybody, even your worst rivals. But talking about kind
Speaker 1: of the war of attrition and starting to happen, we
Speaker 1: know it's a long season, seventeen games as opposed to
Speaker 1: sixteen a year ago. This is going to get into
Speaker 1: that nitty gritty part of the year. Luckily, the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: like night McCarthy has said all year long, kind of
Speaker 1: have that halfway by these ten days in between games,
Speaker 1: have so much time off that it works as almost
Speaker 1: a de facto by following the Thursday game against the
Speaker 1: Saints in prior to the game against the Washington football team,
Speaker 1: is that enough time for the running game to wake up?
Speaker 1: Because we've had some struggles, at least the Cowboys have
Speaker 1: had some struggles over the last couple of weeks, a
Speaker 1: couple of hundred yard performances, but they both come and
Speaker 1: wins the Saints game in the Falcons game. I don't
Speaker 1: know exactly what to think about this run game moving forward.
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is a long term problem.
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is just because of the
Speaker 1: defenses that you've faced throughout these games. Rob when you
Speaker 1: look at this run game, is this an issue that
Speaker 1: you're worried about as you enter the final five games
Speaker 1: of the season and then of course the playoffs if
Speaker 1: you get there. Yeah, I think it's a concern for sure,
Speaker 1: because there's a five five game sample of evidence that
Speaker 1: they're not the same running team as they were early
Speaker 1: in the season. And I think you're right, there's there's
Speaker 1: a lot of different factors for it. They played some
Speaker 1: good defensive fronts um they also don't seem to be
Speaker 1: establishing the line of scrimmage like they used to. And
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a coincidence that, you know,
Speaker 1: five games ago, Tyrn goes out for three games, they
Speaker 1: make a change at left guard. The continuities, you know,
Speaker 1: they've had some shuffling at right tackle. The continuity is
Speaker 1: not what it was um. And you know, I think
Speaker 1: the other part of it too is that they've in
Speaker 1: the passing game. They've got to be able to throw
Speaker 1: teams out of that because what we've seen, I mean,
Speaker 1: blue blue blueprint, come on, come on. I didn't want
Speaker 1: to I didn't want to say it, but you know,
Speaker 1: ever since Denver started that, you know, the kind of
Speaker 1: that type press man coverage and and kind of trying
Speaker 1: to take away the run, it's been more of a
Speaker 1: challenge to do that. And in the hope would be
Speaker 1: now that you've got a maricd and Michael Gallibeck, you
Speaker 1: saw flashes of it against the Saints that maybe now
Speaker 1: they can get that passing game rolling protection provided and
Speaker 1: throw teams out of that and force those boxes to
Speaker 1: be lighter than they've been. What do you think now,
Speaker 1: I really believe what you're saying the spot on it's
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people don't understand the cause
Speaker 1: and effect part of this running game and having the
Speaker 1: injuries up front. We talk about continuity and all of that,
Speaker 1: but we met certain teams and we were hurt upfront.
Speaker 1: We didn't have like, we didn't have our best blocking
Speaker 1: receivers on the field at the same time, I think
Speaker 1: we're finding out the Dalton shows for everything that he
Speaker 1: does great in the passing game, is kind of a
Speaker 1: liability blocking sometimes. We've just seen him with on blocks.
Speaker 1: But I just for me, like you said, the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage, winning the line of scrimmage, we hadn't been
Speaker 1: able to do that. We saw in those Carolina games
Speaker 1: and Eagles games, and even in the Giants game where
Speaker 1: we were pulling guards and we were relying on Beardest
Speaker 1: to reach block on the backside and guys getting out
Speaker 1: in space. What teams started to do with Kansas City
Speaker 1: and with New England is they started putting those one
Speaker 1: in three techs in the A gaps and just bringing
Speaker 1: pressure up front, and that slowed a lot of what
Speaker 1: we were doing down Look, Keller Moore also got a
Speaker 1: little cute see with the play calling, and I think
Speaker 1: that set us back as well. Dak Prescott is facing
Speaker 1: six and seven man boxes and he hadn't been able
Speaker 1: to throw teams out of it, like you're talking about,
Speaker 1: make them move those guys out. But I just think
Speaker 1: that teams have been able to tee off on us
Speaker 1: and come after the running game, and we hadn't been
Speaker 1: able to create that space upfront. And so look, if
Speaker 1: you just go over the games that we've had, like
Speaker 1: the Chargers, the Eagles, the Panthers, Giants, those were games
Speaker 1: where we were having the most success in our running
Speaker 1: game due to injuries and guys being missing. I think
Speaker 1: that's where you see the running game start to struggle
Speaker 1: a little bit. Again, that's the cause and effect that
Speaker 1: I see. Yeah, I think it's a combination everything that
Speaker 1: you guys just said. I do think that we are
Speaker 1: now kind of entering the phase where Keller Moore needs
Speaker 1: to start taking a book out of was it b
Speaker 1: Enemy and Andy Reid's book were they create runs through
Speaker 1: screens and they really loosen up their box short passing.
Speaker 1: His short passing game allows for doing get these quick,
Speaker 1: quick screens, get the ball in their hands of their playmakers.
Speaker 1: CD CD had a big thirty three lay. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: a run play. So that's what Kansas City does really well.
Speaker 1: That really loosens up that box, which allows for them
Speaker 1: now to run the ball in those gaps that we're
Speaker 1: just talking about. It takes a kind of that seven
Speaker 1: man box out of there now and starts negating guys
Speaker 1: to be able to have five six man boxes, which
Speaker 1: is what you want to run against. So I think
Speaker 1: that they Kella Moore has to figure that out. And
Speaker 1: that's why last week puts so much emphasis on, Hey,
Speaker 1: this is on more to figure it to figure it out,
Speaker 1: because that's is a responsibility. Yeah, you have guys. You
Speaker 1: got one guy who's healthy, one guy who's banged up
Speaker 1: in the backfield, and you still have to find a
Speaker 1: way to be productive. And if you can't do it
Speaker 1: with your running backs inside the boxing, get into your
Speaker 1: receiver's hands and get those yards that way. I think
Speaker 1: that's important to remember, especially whenever you look at the
Speaker 1: way that they were able to get those yards against
Speaker 1: New Orleans, because if you're listening to this show and
Speaker 1: you're looking at the stats of the New Orleans game
Speaker 1: and you're saying, oh, there's one hundred and forty six
Speaker 1: total yards rushing. Why are you guys upset about the
Speaker 1: run game. Well, you take away the two plays that
Speaker 1: they did exactly what you're talking about. Fifty eight yard
Speaker 1: from Tony Pollard catches the edge, that's fifty eight yards.
Speaker 1: You take that out of the equation, along with the
Speaker 1: CD Lamb play that was technically a run, but more
Speaker 1: so a screen pass for thirty something yards. That's ninety
Speaker 1: yards almost off the table. And so you turn around
Speaker 1: and you look at your performance at that point and
Speaker 1: you're running for sixty yards again, which is exactly what
Speaker 1: you did against Las Vegas. You're held to about three
Speaker 1: and a half maybe less than that yards per play,
Speaker 1: yards per rush, and it did not look pretty. That's
Speaker 1: the biggest thing I think. Whenever you look at the film,
Speaker 1: they were stuffed on every single occasion outside of those
Speaker 1: two big plays. Now that helps you want those big plays.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that's they didn't count, because they certainly do.
Speaker 1: But you got to have some sort of consistency in
Speaker 1: running the football like they did earlier in the year.
Speaker 1: So you're eight and four, let's go back to that.
Speaker 1: You're a feeling good, feeling good about yourself. You're two
Speaker 1: games up in the division, and you know, look, I
Speaker 1: went back over the weekend and I looked at the
Speaker 1: New Orleans game again, and you're right, man, it was
Speaker 1: a lot closer than we wanted to give credit to.
Speaker 1: And as far as the ending score, we kept them
Speaker 1: around way too long. And if you can establish a
Speaker 1: running game and you do some things like that that
Speaker 1: changes the dynamic of your offense. But I believe, and
Speaker 1: just from the football that are watch in general, that
Speaker 1: a lot of offensive coordinators in the league are coaching
Speaker 1: to get a head coaching job. And I'm not talking
Speaker 1: about Kellen Moore. Just if we win, great, but I
Speaker 1: want you to love my play design. I want you
Speaker 1: to be talking about my play design on Monday morning,
Speaker 1: you know exactly. And you see that. You see that
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl with some of the wild offensive
Speaker 1: calls at a play and he's like, oh man, he
Speaker 1: went in his bag and he called this crazy play
Speaker 1: that if otherwise they're in the regular season, you wouldn't
Speaker 1: call that, you know. And so I just think that
Speaker 1: those things are Look when I look at Kevin Stefanski,
Speaker 1: when I look at the San Francisco forty nine ers,
Speaker 1: the way that they block on those zone but I mean,
Speaker 1: they're getting guys out in space and they are dedicated
Speaker 1: to continuing to run the ball. I believe that for
Speaker 1: the for the Dallas Cowboys, our offensive line, we've been
Speaker 1: doing a lot of isolation blocks trying to get up
Speaker 1: and I think that's hard for offensive linemen to get
Speaker 1: a hat on the hat in a lot of ways,
Speaker 1: especially when you're trying to get out in space. We
Speaker 1: got to get back to double teaming, double teaming guys,
Speaker 1: you know, getting our garden center to cut off the
Speaker 1: you know, get cut off, double block and then get
Speaker 1: backside to cut off the linebackers. Those are just things
Speaker 1: that maybe we got away from because we were not
Speaker 1: as healthy. We were relying on steal to just kind
Speaker 1: of when he was at the right tackle, block down,
Speaker 1: let the guards get out and guys were getting up
Speaker 1: the field. But again, I'm just saying there are things
Speaker 1: that you can change up offensively once obviously hope philbing
Speaker 1: is back and healthy. But they're just things that you
Speaker 1: can change up with the offensive line that can present
Speaker 1: a challenge to teams in the running game. You know
Speaker 1: the other thing too, You guys mentioned Kellen Moore and
Speaker 1: schematically they the Pollard run the screen pass the CD.
Speaker 1: You're attacking the edges and Brian brought us like give
Speaker 1: him credit because he's been on this for a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks. Now they're trying to they're they're avoiding that
Speaker 1: part of the scheme. I mean, they're not trying to
Speaker 1: go to attack the edge as much, and Mike McCarthy
Speaker 1: was asked about it and he said, yeah, that's we
Speaker 1: probably need some more variation there. So I think that's
Speaker 1: that's another thing they can look to do. And Connor Williams,
Speaker 1: that's one thing when he was in the lineup. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying they should go back to him necessarily, but
Speaker 1: him pulling and getting out in space and some of
Speaker 1: those stretch runs like that's things he did probably better
Speaker 1: than anything. So that's something they got to look at
Speaker 1: too schematically. Now why would they avoid the edge like
Speaker 1: that though? Is it just don't know, you're ignorance to it,
Speaker 1: or just they that's what the scheme is drawn up
Speaker 1: certain occasions. I don't know. I think Mike had said
Speaker 1: when he was asked about it Friday that that's kind
Speaker 1: of a harder thing to get to to capture. But
Speaker 1: they've had Bobby Belt had a stat from NFL Network
Speaker 1: about when they they're averaging six seven yards of carry
Speaker 1: left edge, right edge. I'm not saying you could do
Speaker 1: it all the time time, but they they've had a
Speaker 1: lot more success doing that than just pounding it up
Speaker 1: the middle. A lot of first down runs against the
Speaker 1: Saints and went for a yard or two, you know,
Speaker 1: up the middle, and they're just running into a brick wall.
Speaker 1: It kind of felt like the Tampa Bay game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, you're exactly right, and the Raiders did the
Speaker 1: same thing in that game as well. So trying to
Speaker 1: take away Ezekiel Elliott has been a key for a
Speaker 1: couple defenses this year and they're going to try and
Speaker 1: keep doing that. So maybe it is the Tony Pollard
Speaker 1: Show the rest of the way if they can catch
Speaker 1: the edge and maybe Zeke's healthy heading into this Washington game,
Speaker 1: but that's a big one too. You got to make
Speaker 1: sure he's healthy and ready to go. Teams are willing
Speaker 1: to die that way. I mean we've the last three
Speaker 1: contest teams that we've played, they are been willing to
Speaker 1: die that way. We're going to take away the running game,
Speaker 1: and you've got to beat us throwing the ball, and
Speaker 1: that's just I think with the injuries to Dak's calf,
Speaker 1: maybe the limitations in some of his mechanics that we've
Speaker 1: talked about, maybe those have been the things that have
Speaker 1: kept teams closer end games than we'd like. But you know,
Speaker 1: obviously the healthier he is he can he can break
Speaker 1: that real quick question for you guys, when you guys
Speaker 1: watch the game's back, do you see opportunities for him
Speaker 1: to run that he's not taking. Hell yeah, day all
Speaker 1: the way back to the beginning of the season. Okay,
Speaker 1: because I just I just watching the Saints game back
Speaker 1: in particular, I felt like, because a lot of people
Speaker 1: were saying that, I do think they're situations where it
Speaker 1: looks like he's got some green it's gonna close fast
Speaker 1: on him. But it's always it always looks bigger than
Speaker 1: it actually is. Yeah, but he's not running nearly as
Speaker 1: much as he did in the past. They're not using
Speaker 1: the read option stuff as much as they used to.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I think he's too hind And
Speaker 1: I was like this at one point in my career.
Speaker 1: I'm not making any comparison to my cell phone and
Speaker 1: dak at that position right now, but there was a
Speaker 1: point in my career where I felt like I had
Speaker 1: to throw a dime every time, like I had to
Speaker 1: get the big chunk, I had to get the big play.
Speaker 1: I had to throw it down field, and you literally,
Speaker 1: even though you're aware of the line of scrimmage, like
Speaker 1: you're like, I'm not crossing it. I'm not crossing it.
Speaker 1: And then I feel like he's at the phase now
Speaker 1: where he has to change his mindset to say, move
Speaker 1: the chains. Move the chains. And once you wrap your
Speaker 1: head around that concept, those little runs like that become
Speaker 1: more more feasible. Like I'm more willing to now just
Speaker 1: take that quick three four yard slide, get up now,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I'm more manageable down. That's what
Speaker 1: I think he has to get back to understanding we
Speaker 1: don't You don't have to take off and running, you know,
Speaker 1: ten fifteen yards down the field and didn't get hit
Speaker 1: by a linebacker or or whatever it may be. Get
Speaker 1: three four yards to pop. If it's four yards sitting
Speaker 1: there in front of you, take it. Take it because
Speaker 1: you help killing You put him in the entire offense
Speaker 1: in a better position for the next down. It's much
Speaker 1: better to take that quick little run across the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage, get what you can, slide, don't take any contact.
Speaker 1: Then to go ahead and throw the ball away and
Speaker 1: be in second and ten again, or to throw a
Speaker 1: bad ball and have it be contested and maybe pop
Speaker 1: up in some back and happen. Take the yardage that
Speaker 1: they give you, and we will be in a much
Speaker 1: better state as offense. Now, that's been the mystique of
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott since he came into the league. You know,
Speaker 1: his ability to create with this run off the run
Speaker 1: and then pass off of it. We hadn't seen it
Speaker 1: this year and that's kind of just kind of weird
Speaker 1: to see him, you know, bootleg out and not take
Speaker 1: the additional yards and you know, still try to throw.
Speaker 1: I don't know, like we talk about the psychology of
Speaker 1: injuries when you always talk about you know, look when
Speaker 1: I've had this happened to my shoulder, my foot, all
Speaker 1: these things that it changed your game. Maybe we're just
Speaker 1: watching the guy trying to deal with that mentally knowing
Speaker 1: that hey I got hurt doing it or yeah, or
Speaker 1: it's a coaching point like, look, you know, we can't
Speaker 1: we can't risk you getting hurt again. You know, yeah,
Speaker 1: we got you, We got you. Gotta be more mindful
Speaker 1: of it because you are the key to this offense.
Speaker 1: It could be coming a couple different directions to Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott saying hey, let's let's be aware of the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage, like Isaiah was saying, but let's not cross here,
Speaker 1: let's let's stay beck see that happening. It's just it's
Speaker 1: not long term. I think you'll see it click and
Speaker 1: one of one of these games, he's gonna he's gonna
Speaker 1: get out of the pocket and he's gonna take it
Speaker 1: and he's gonna take the five yards slide and be
Speaker 1: like that was easy. It's second and five. It's second
Speaker 1: and five, you know, and like the play calls, just
Speaker 1: open up your hold that whole little three hundred playshet
Speaker 1: or whatever he plays. I have one that thing. Any
Speaker 1: thing just opens up whenever it becomes that shortened downard distance.
Speaker 1: So I hope that clicks for him sooner than later,
Speaker 1: because he can help this team a lot in terms
Speaker 1: of our third down percentage, where was two for fourteen,
Speaker 1: two for fifteen last games something crazy like that. Thirteen
Speaker 1: He can help a lot by just doing that. Yep,
Speaker 1: you're exactly right. And I mean playing in front of
Speaker 1: the chains is always going to help you out. And
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Speaker 1: That was such a good game. Lots of good college
Speaker 1: football games this weekend, and that might have been game
Speaker 1: that close. I stopped watching. It came down das play like,
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Speaker 1: but they still want All right, We've got some move
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Speaker 1: you're moving on, which means you accept that or you're
Speaker 1: grooving on saying no, thank you. We'll move on to
Speaker 1: the next one. All right, We'll start with heck Ma
Speaker 1: Harrison on this one. Daltson Schultz will be on this
Speaker 1: team next season, big number eighty six. He back in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. Don't grooving on. I'm grooving all. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm grooving all. So you're saying that you're staying that
Speaker 1: he's staying Yeah, Okay. Is that how to move on
Speaker 1: to groove on? I believe so. Okay, I think we
Speaker 1: flip yeah, but we can work it either way. No,
Speaker 1: that's I think that's where work. Yeah, okay, cool. Grooving
Speaker 1: our means I'll be like it. Moving on means that.
Speaker 1: Oh good? Okay, Sorry, I think I flipped it. Okay,
Speaker 1: why is that? I mean, come on, this guy's having
Speaker 1: a hell of a year and he had you know,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, he had a great seasons. No, you've built
Speaker 1: something with this guy, and although Jarwin is still under contract,
Speaker 1: I think there are some other things that needs to
Speaker 1: be considered with that whole tight end room. He's done
Speaker 1: enough for you. He's shown you that you've developed in London, Wales.
Speaker 1: The guy you you're tight end coach from New York.
Speaker 1: He's here and he's developing. This guy. You see so
Speaker 1: much from him and just the way that he's running routes.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's up there blocking. You got an
Speaker 1: off season, we're gonna work on that. I'm gonna groove
Speaker 1: arm too. Go get you a blocker who get your
Speaker 1: blocking tight end. Let him do what he does. He's
Speaker 1: continuing to develop. He's still young. He has some growth
Speaker 1: obviously in that. In that regard, I'm not sure if
Speaker 1: he hasn't has enough wait in the trunk to really
Speaker 1: settle down and block guys. But he can definitely work
Speaker 1: on this technique in the blocking but receiving whis he's
Speaker 1: coming leaps and bounds. I would groove on for what
Speaker 1: you guys said, he's out a hell of a year.
Speaker 1: He's become a safety blanket for Dak Prescott. But I
Speaker 1: just I wonder if there's financially they do it, if
Speaker 1: they can get it done under the cap, because he's
Speaker 1: got an opportunity with the numbers he's putting up for
Speaker 1: the last two years to go get the back, and
Speaker 1: he somebody's gonna give him back. I think so. I
Speaker 1: think so. I think so, And I just wonder they
Speaker 1: might have to make a decision there because of all
Speaker 1: the other things they gotta do and the CAP's gonna rise.
Speaker 1: But um, you've seen it with like an ant Anthony Hitchins,
Speaker 1: guy that's had a great career here, but you can't
Speaker 1: there's there's a budget, and I wonder if that's going
Speaker 1: to be the case. Do you guys think he's gonna
Speaker 1: leave and get the back. I think it's a possibility.
Speaker 1: I think at least, I mean, he goes out and
Speaker 1: test the market. Man, it might be look at some
Speaker 1: of the names that you're gonna have to sign this offseason.
Speaker 1: If you want to keep these guys around, I mean,
Speaker 1: Michael Gallop, Dalton Scholz, who else is in that, Grandy
Speaker 1: gregor Randy Gregory. They're lde if you want to keep
Speaker 1: him around. But you I don't know. I don't see that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I respect what he's done. I don't see
Speaker 1: nobody breaking the bank for him, like sympathistically, he's a
Speaker 1: top seven eight wide. I mean, excuse me, tight End,
Speaker 1: I understanding at the moment right now staying. But what
Speaker 1: he's shown blocking I think hurts him. He does in
Speaker 1: his stock now. Had he kept the same effort that
Speaker 1: he started the year outway, because we talked about this
Speaker 1: effort earlier in the year, like, hey, he wasn't the
Speaker 1: best blocker, but he was putting out a ton of effort.
Speaker 1: That's changed and I think the fact that that variables
Speaker 1: in there, I think probably hurts his stock because you
Speaker 1: don't just get how many teams are getting tight End
Speaker 1: just because of what they can do receiving wise, like
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of them, but you look at
Speaker 1: the upper echelon teams like the Kansas Cities and what
Speaker 1: they do with their tight ends. Yeah, but they can block,
Speaker 1: I understand. But the offensive output as well. This guy
Speaker 1: is leading the league well a couple of years ago
Speaker 1: in receiving yards and that's changing when you especially when
Speaker 1: you can dominate the middle of the field and so,
Speaker 1: and he's able to beat those one on one matchups.
Speaker 1: Put a linebacker on him if you want to, you know,
Speaker 1: even right now. But I think I agree with you
Speaker 1: what you're saying about his blocking. I just think that
Speaker 1: the bag is gonna be there somebody to believe that
Speaker 1: they can develop him into it. I just hope it's
Speaker 1: us kind of to Heckma's point. You look at Kansas City.
Speaker 1: Kelsey's not the greatest blocker at tight end. He's a
Speaker 1: good blocker, He's not. Then you can't say that about Kiltal.
Speaker 1: But you also got guys on the Kansas City roster,
Speaker 1: like a Blake Bell who has been here before, who
Speaker 1: comes in and he's the blocker. He's the guy who's
Speaker 1: gonna be in the blocking situation. Right now. You don't
Speaker 1: have that with a guy like Dalton Schultz. I mean,
Speaker 1: you thought Sprinkle was supposed to be that. He hasn't
Speaker 1: played well as a blocker. There's a couple different things
Speaker 1: going on there. So I think it's a move on
Speaker 1: because of the bag, not because so we got three
Speaker 1: grooves and we'll move no. Yeah, yeah, yeah, want to
Speaker 1: keep him, but I just wonder cap wise will will happen.
Speaker 1: I'm the same way. I think there's other guys that
Speaker 1: are more priorities than than what he's going to bring
Speaker 1: in money wise. All right, Micah Parsons is the best
Speaker 1: player I'm the Dallas Cowboys right now, Rob Phillips best
Speaker 1: player across the board offense, defense, special teams. I'd put
Speaker 1: him second right now, behind Zach Martin. Okay, that's fair.
Speaker 1: I think he's the second best player on the team
Speaker 1: right this minute, the way he's playing. Yes, wow, And
Speaker 1: I think he's a legit it's our male bad question today.
Speaker 1: I think he's a legit candidate for Defensive Player of
Speaker 1: the Year. I think get Rookie of the year's probably
Speaker 1: can you win both? Sure, that's a good By the
Speaker 1: name of Lawrence Taylor, who's that a dogear only rookie
Speaker 1: ever to do it, and forty years ago to the
Speaker 1: to the year it's happened this year. Yeah, Wow, there's
Speaker 1: a chance for some really good Due's balling out right
Speaker 1: now on defensively, t J Watt, Miles Garrett. So to me,
Speaker 1: it would be tough. But I think he's in the conversation,
Speaker 1: without question. I think he has to be in a
Speaker 1: conversation with what he's done. I'm gonna go, diddo. I
Speaker 1: think it's the same thing Zack Martin First, Yeah, Parsons
Speaker 1: too correct, that's fair man, y'all trip it. I cannot
Speaker 1: believe y'all, man, this dude is that. Yes, he's Yes,
Speaker 1: eleven is the best you got. Yes, not only that
Speaker 1: in the league. Look around. What's the matter of what
Speaker 1: y'all talking about. I understand Zach Martiny Conan, I got him.
Speaker 1: I love him, you know. I think I'm so happy
Speaker 1: that he's on our team. But do y'all watching what
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons is doing right now? It just goes all
Speaker 1: the way back to before the draft. Dog, I didn't
Speaker 1: I didn't cut him. Michael Parson gets that. He gets
Speaker 1: all the flashy stuff that you see. But Martin doesn't
Speaker 1: get He doesn't get the highlight real He doesn't get
Speaker 1: the highlight reals. He brings his lunch bell. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: brings lunch pel, he opens it up, he eats it,
Speaker 1: puts on his gloves. One of the best right guards
Speaker 1: to ever ever play in the NFL. But the greatness
Speaker 1: that we are watching right now, Man, come on, man, y'all,
Speaker 1: you know what and see. The thing is when I
Speaker 1: jump out the cake is not argue you. You can't
Speaker 1: say that the person we're comparing him to is one
Speaker 1: of the greatest to ever do it and then say
Speaker 1: that Parsons ahead of him. You know what you're saying
Speaker 1: when you say that, Parsons into what I'm saying. At
Speaker 1: the end of this, we could be talking about one
Speaker 1: of the greatest defensive players to ever play the game. Correct,
Speaker 1: that's a question mark. So I'm not arguing with you.
Speaker 1: But listen, those questions get argued, get answered as the
Speaker 1: season goes along. Correct, and you're seeing tackles for losses.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, exacts, pressure force fumbles. I mean, bro, Beast,
Speaker 1: if this is on your team, I know, no Beast,
Speaker 1: but one's a question mark. One's an exclamation point. I'm
Speaker 1: look your time, and I'm telling anybody, and it's unfair
Speaker 1: to him because he doesn't have time on his side.
Speaker 1: Martin does. So that's what we're taking into consideration as well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm more a resume. I look, I'm in the live.
Speaker 1: I jumped out of the the ke. I can't give it,
Speaker 1: get into I gotta I gotta facetown. I gotta facetown,
Speaker 1: cover butt nigger. I got a facetown. All right, we're
Speaker 1: right there. I think Michael Parsons. Michael Parsons is in
Speaker 1: a position. He is a He is in a versatile
Speaker 1: spot on defense that hasn't been seen in quite some time,
Speaker 1: not only from the Cowboys standpoint, but in the league.
Speaker 1: When is the last time you've seen a guy make
Speaker 1: an impact on all three levels the way that Michael Parson.
Speaker 1: I'm going for to seeing him at corner. Eventually, he
Speaker 1: might he might be great at him running back. I
Speaker 1: don't believe we go through a whole season without see
Speaker 1: him at running back, especially if Zeke takes a week
Speaker 1: off like poss I was just kidding, No, he was
Speaker 1: just I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding. Stop you no
Speaker 1: more covering you. I don't know, I don't know. I'm
Speaker 1: not doing that. If something happened to Zeke, No, you
Speaker 1: needed to go line back. Don't do that, McGovern You
Speaker 1: can let stay with us, stay with us on the
Speaker 1: show anyway. I'm just saying, I don't think we go
Speaker 1: a whole whole season without him going to This would
Speaker 1: have been a good Cowboy if we had mentioned butt
Speaker 1: naked like three times every day. Man, one of the best.
Speaker 1: What this guy is doing a moving him to the
Speaker 1: linebacker position and what he's doing off the edge. You're
Speaker 1: just not seeing this from anybody that's been in the league. Man,
Speaker 1: this is this is crazy. His closing speed, just the
Speaker 1: closing speed. Uh, it's Oh, it's a canny. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean I would like him obviously in the draft,
Speaker 1: but I didn't even think that he was gonna be
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody did, or else he would have
Speaker 1: gone number one overall. Yeah, there's no way anybody thought
Speaker 1: that this was gonna happen. Well, if he Cowboys wouldn't
Speaker 1: have traded back on top of the dog on Tower
Speaker 1: yelling for Parsons in the draft. Did I not say? YouTube,
Speaker 1: Oh my bad. But you two yeah, you and't that
Speaker 1: with me? Dog? No, you get he's gonna town. Let's
Speaker 1: go all right, I'm gonna do one more, one more brother, Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Cowboys will finish the year four and one or better,
Speaker 1: got five games left. They leave with just one loss
Speaker 1: in those four games, four in one or better. You
Speaker 1: think that's a move on or a groove on. I
Speaker 1: can't say that right I'd say move on right now,
Speaker 1: I'd go three and two, three and two. But like
Speaker 1: we just talked about the run game, like, they've got
Speaker 1: to sort some things out. I mean, I give them
Speaker 1: credit more credit than maybe some people do. Winning that
Speaker 1: game in New Orleans like that was a that's a
Speaker 1: hard place to win. They had some issues to deal
Speaker 1: with on the coaching staff. But like going forward, they've
Speaker 1: got to be more consistent in some areas to beat
Speaker 1: division teams, to beat the Arizona Cardinals, it's not gonna
Speaker 1: be an easy December here. No, I'm moving on as well.
Speaker 1: I agree with ropy. I think three and two part realistic.
Speaker 1: It's kind of what I'm trying to set expectations here.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to set some expectations because I'm looking at
Speaker 1: the schedule. You look at it, you say, oh, four
Speaker 1: and one, easy, right, That's not necessarily the case the
Speaker 1: East team or division. We're gonna mention that coming up
Speaker 1: here in a couple of minutes. But NFC, he's starting
Speaker 1: to figure some things out there. Make it tough on you.
Speaker 1: You gotta target on your back at the moment. So
Speaker 1: early in the season, I'm logic here, we went on
Speaker 1: a six game run. Sure, we went on a six
Speaker 1: game run versus some formidable teams, and you know, obviously
Speaker 1: teams we were supposed to run over. I'm looking at
Speaker 1: the next four games, and these are teams obviously, the
Speaker 1: Washington football team, the Giants, Washington Football teams again, and
Speaker 1: the Cardinals before we get the Blue Eagles out of here.
Speaker 1: All of those are winnable games, and not only winnable,
Speaker 1: those are games that you expect to go into to dominate.
Speaker 1: I expect to dominate the Washington football team. Their defense
Speaker 1: isn't what it is. It hadn't been there, and so
Speaker 1: we can't. I know every week we're gonna build these
Speaker 1: teams up to be bigger than what they are. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, with getting your guys back healthy, bringing back
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory, Tank, Lawrence Neville, Gallimore, Tristan Hill. Okay, these
Speaker 1: are a bunch of guys that are not trying to
Speaker 1: swap jerseys with you after the game, right, So if
Speaker 1: I'm getting guys like that back, I have confidence that
Speaker 1: my team can pull this out. Look, even if we
Speaker 1: go eleven and six, where does that put us? What
Speaker 1: does that put us? First place? Right? So if that's
Speaker 1: first place, and that puts us like fourth or third
Speaker 1: wherever the place spot is. Yeah, I think they're gonna
Speaker 1: win this division. Yeah, I just say division games are crapshoots. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, I just feel like, with where our health
Speaker 1: is right now, these are games that we can win.
Speaker 1: We could roll through a week. Every game on our
Speaker 1: roster is winnable. I'm not roster schedule is winnable. But
Speaker 1: dominate I don't know if we're expected to dominate Washington.
Speaker 1: Washington's defense is not where there used to be. Our
Speaker 1: offense is not what it has been. That's kind of
Speaker 1: a crazy matchup. You've talked a lot about playoff runs
Speaker 1: and what you have to do in December. This is
Speaker 1: our time. We struggled in December, but now you can
Speaker 1: go into the playoffs making that run. That's what I want,
Speaker 1: the momentum on our side. It's a great opportunity to
Speaker 1: get some momentum going into the playoffs and kind of
Speaker 1: hit it in stride. That's the biggest thing for these
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