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We're gonna fire up the 43 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 5: stream around halftime of the War year's Mavericks game tomorrow night, 44 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 5: Thursday night on TNT again. That'll be around eight thirty 45 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 5: pm Eastern, So you know, jump on the stream team, 46 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 5: join us at YouTube on the No Dunk channel while 47 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,839 Speaker 5: we just shoot the ship, sort of talk about the game. 48 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 5: Not really, not at all. We got we had task 49 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 5: popping in last week. We had leap popping in later 50 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 5: in the show. Who knows will be there tomorrow night? Yeah, 51 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 5: exactly exactly. So that'll be a. 52 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 6: Casual you think, And we're gonna take this one more casual, 53 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 6: more casual. 54 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 5: We were too formal if you asked me last time. 55 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 6: Too formal. All right, I'll wear a robe. I'll do 56 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 6: it excellent, Please do okay, please do better. My robes 57 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 6: kind of look like the one that I commonly wear. 58 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 6: It looks like a gray hooded sweatshirt. I wish I 59 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 6: had like a fancier robe, a Jack from Willing Grace 60 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 6: kind of robe around your shorty robe. 61 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, the plan is to keep getting more and 62 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 5: more casual with NBA Happy Hour, So like eventually like 63 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 5: JD's in the top, you know, yeah, of course, like 64 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 5: we're lying down. Yes, we just got to keep getting casual. Anyway, 65 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 5: it's a lot of fun. We had a blast last time. 66 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 5: You guys seem to enjoy it for the most part. 67 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 5: I'm sure there was a handful of people going, are 68 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 5: they ever gonna talk about the game? Like, what the 69 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 5: hell's going on here? No, No, we're absolutely really not. 70 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 5: We sort of did as it got close. But anyway, 71 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 5: come check us out NB A Happy Hour tomorrow Thursday night, 72 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,359 Speaker 5: Warriors MAVs around halftime of that game on TNT. Okay, 73 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 5: today's show, let's focus on today. Let's live in the present, lely, 74 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 5: because we've got some big takeaways from some of the 75 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 5: games last night. We'll start with Fred van Vliet. Oh, yeah, 76 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 5: thank you. You know what, I'm a little pissed off 77 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 5: with how many people are starting their other shows with 78 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 5: the Clippers' nets. Yeah, I'm talking about you Millis and others. 79 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 5: I see you, ding. There's too much of this going on, 80 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 5: too much clippers nets starting these shows. We're talking Fred 81 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 5: van Vliet, We're. 82 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 6: Talking Fred Baby, that's right. 83 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 5: Bet on yourself here. If he didn't know, scored fifty 84 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 5: four points to break the Raptors franchise record last night. 85 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 5: They defeated the Magic One twenty three one oh eight 86 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 5: maybe the most incredible in fact, you know what, the 87 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 5: most incredible performance in Raptors history, individual performance, you know, 88 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 5: you know, just throw out the playoffs, don't worry about that. 89 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 5: But this was pretty crazy. That Van Vlad, a guy 90 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 5: that went undrafted of course, scores fifty four hit a 91 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 5: career best eleven threes. You know, it was exciting because 92 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 5: he had five in the first quarter. H he had 93 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 5: you know, eleven with time to go in the third quarter. 94 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 5: It was like, oh, is Clay's fourteen in Jeopardy? Herely 95 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 5: is Donielle Marshall, you know, former Raptor who has the 96 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 5: Raptors record of twelve threes in the game. Yes, Donielle 97 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 5: Marshall is that one in Jeopardy. In the end, you know, 98 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 5: Clay's fourteen still stands and Donielle Marshall's twelve still stands. 99 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 5: But an unbelievable game, seventeen to twenty three from the 100 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 5: field nine to nine at the line. He had three 101 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 5: blocks and three steals too, which is three blocks. 102 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 7: Amazing, the most incredible performance in Fred Lanfleet's history. 103 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 5: Sure, he's never had more. 104 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 7: Than three blocks before. But what I loved about this performance, 105 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 7: First I'll start with those eleven threes. Ten of them 106 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 7: were pure swishes. The only one that didn't really swish 107 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 7: was the eleventh one that he that he clanked where 108 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 7: he hit the iron on the back of them. The other one, 109 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 7: because I went through and looked at it this morning, 110 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 7: I'm like, and sure, maybe one of them caught some iron, 111 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,239 Speaker 7: but otherwise they were pure swishes. That was a Dirk 112 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 7: like performance. They're shooting the ball, everyone just looks so 113 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 7: beautifully got to his spots and did it well. Matt 114 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 7: Devlin on the sidelines was going crazy too. According to Leo, 115 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 7: he was just he was getting so excited. But what 116 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 7: I liked about it was, you know, Fred was in 117 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 7: the groove and he was in the moment, but he 118 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 7: wasn't just hunting down threes like I think in that 119 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 7: second half. And Blake Murphy pointed out this morning in 120 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 7: the Athletic the magic was kind of like, well, he's 121 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 7: just going to start firing away, gone for that record, 122 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 7: and Fred was like, well, you're coming out this far, 123 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 7: I'm just going to go inside and to get some 124 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 7: easy ones. And that's how he got to his fifty. 125 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 7: Like it wasn't just like okay, I'm just so hot now, 126 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 7: I'm just going to start firing and jacking away for 127 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 7: the team here, all for my I'm going to try 128 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 7: to make sure we get the win and get some 129 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 7: nice easy baskets in and that's what he did. So 130 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,559 Speaker 7: it was a good in the flow fifty that really 131 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 7: just exploited the weakness in the defense, and then obviously 132 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 7: the threes were just beautiful on top of it. So 133 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 7: I thought it was an incredible unlikely performance because if 134 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 7: you watch Fred's body language, you would think maybe the 135 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 7: team's down, maybe he's only got ten points, maybe hasn't 136 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 7: hit any shots for a while. Because he's not a 137 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 7: very emotive guy. He stays in the moment and that's 138 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 7: a great thing. I think that's very very That's the 139 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 7: thing about it is that he doesn't get carried away. 140 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 7: And he could have stayed out there and patted his 141 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 7: stats a little bit more, but he came out with 142 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 7: a couple of minutes to go there because he had 143 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 7: the record, and he was like, I think him and 144 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 7: Nick we like, all right, that's fine. 145 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 5: You've got the Raptors. That is now. 146 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:50,239 Speaker 7: That is a franchise including playoff record too, isn't it? 147 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 5: Because it was fifty four. Yeah, yeah, believe that's right, 148 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 5: because mean Vince Carter's had some huge games. Of course 149 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 5: back in the playoffs he had fifty one, Vince did 150 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 5: We had that Terrence Race fifty one, fifty to fifty one, 151 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 5: I can remember. Yeah, And now now Van Vliet has 152 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 5: the Raptors record with fifty four. Yeah, he surpassed Derozen 153 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 5: And I know we'll get to what DeRozan said on 154 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 5: Twitter later in tweeted the night who had it at 155 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 5: fifty two? Derozean did it? I think on January first, 156 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 5: so New Year's Day, and now we have Van Vliet 157 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 5: on Groundhog Day going for fifty four. It's got to 158 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 5: be a special day. It's gotta be a holiday of 159 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 5: some sort. I guess for the ones only to go exactly. Yeah, 160 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 5: the biggest of the holidays for the Raptors to explode. 161 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 5: But yeah, you're right, I mean he had like Lee, 162 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 5: those were swishes. You're absolutely on point there, like a 163 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 5: lot of them, like thirty foot bombs. He was hitting 164 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 5: first off like Bouchet would set a pick so far 165 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 5: out from the three point line, like Van Vult. All right, 166 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 5: I'll step into this was feeling it, and then he 167 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 5: had a bunch of like catch and shoot threes in 168 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 5: transition as well. It was it was fun. It was 169 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 5: the first time in a long time tray that I 170 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 5: the texts were flying around with the Raptors buddies. You know. 171 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 5: It was like, hey, like I had to know if 172 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 5: anybody anyone else was watching up in Toronto. Was like, 173 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 5: you know, so my buddy's like, hey, guys, Van Vliet's 174 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 5: like on fire right now, and you know, fifties in 175 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 5: play here. Who knows if he catches clay or whatever. 176 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 5: And so there was a bunch of like, whoa, what's 177 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 5: going on? Everybody's starting to tune in. So that was 178 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 5: fun because it's been a long time. Bo what'd you 179 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 5: think of a fvv Rockford, Illinois's own Oh baby going 180 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 5: going nuts? I mean it's pretty crazy, Like again, an 181 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 5: undrafted player, I know, we sort of overlooked that. That's 182 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 5: it's wild what this guy has accomplished already. It's still 183 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 5: being pretty young. 184 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, that was incredible to me. It sounds like you're 185 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 6: saying that the Raptors are back. I didn't know that 186 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 6: they had gone away, but they're back. You're texting everybody. 187 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 6: You're being in Isaac here saying, hey, I know everybody 188 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 6: is watching Nets versus Clippers, a possible game of the 189 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 6: year candidate. What about my team? What about my team? 190 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 6: I know og Anobi's not playing, but let's talk about him. 191 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 6: That was incredible stuff. The Magic made some mistakes early on. 192 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 6: They completely lost track of Fred van vlee He got 193 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 6: some wide open threes for maybe his first three attempts, 194 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 6: and then it was over. He had kind of gotten 195 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 6: into a groove and he was looking for his shots. 196 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 6: Obviously the Raptors were looking to get him buckets, and 197 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 6: The Magic just did a pretty poor job of staying 198 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 6: attached to Fred VanVleet on screens and finding him in 199 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 6: half court and then transition situations and basically everywhere that 200 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 6: you would pick up three pointers, which is why he 201 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 6: got to eleven. And it actually brings up a good 202 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 6: question from John Schuman and the stream team, who asks, 203 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 6: is Fred van Vliet a beautiful shooter of the basketball? 204 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 6: I don't know that I would say he's got a 205 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 6: beautiful shot. It's got a little bit of a hook 206 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 6: to it, but it goes in and when he's on fire, 207 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 6: it feels like he's never gonna miss Obviously that was 208 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 6: the case last night. What do you think Lee a 209 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 6: beautiful shooter of the basketball, Red Vandley. 210 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 7: I would say, no, he doesn't quite qualify for the 211 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 7: you know, the Steph Curry, the Bradley Beal who's just 212 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 7: like got the most perfect mechanics. But he's certainly a 213 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 7: guy who's worked on his shot and he's comfortable and 214 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 7: when he gets his feet set, you know, it feels 215 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 7: like he's gonna knock it in more times than he's 216 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 7: gonna miss it. I will say that. But he's got 217 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 7: a strong beasts. 218 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 5: Yes he does. 219 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean exactly, he squares up, he gets his 220 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 7: feet into it, and he follows through. So he does 221 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 7: everything that you should do. But I wouldn't say it's 222 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 7: in that same level of the super elit gorgeous shooters 223 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 7: of the basketball, like a you know, like a Bogdanovich 224 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 7: as well, you know the guys I mentioned yesterday, I 225 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 7: mean Joe Harris, beautiful shooter of the Bowl. 226 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, they all are. I mean, we'd be remiss if 227 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:16,959 Speaker 5: we didn't bring this up too, that Van Vliet goes 228 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,479 Speaker 5: for fifty four on the day of the night of 229 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 5: us yesterday's podcast talking about trading. If you're the raptors 230 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 5: for Bradley Beal, who you're putting in the deal? Leek, 231 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 5: you said Van Vleet, Norman Powell, who by the way, 232 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 5: had a pretty sneaky good game too, lost and Shuffle 233 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 5: You're in a good game too, those two guys, and 234 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 5: then picks for Beale, and automatically I said, yes, where 235 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 5: can I sign? I'm down? So it begs the question 236 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 5: did we inspire Van Vleet for fifty four? And the 237 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 5: second question is do we have to revise the trade 238 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 5: and the Wizards need to send back picks for Van Vleet. Yeah, 239 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 5: it's amazing timing. 240 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,439 Speaker 7: I wasn't deep into your Twitter feed last night, but 241 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 7: I always take and so many hits from people just saying, 242 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 7: you know, like some was saying, well you inspired, and 243 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 7: but others were saying. 244 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 5: See is trash. What are you talking about? But you 245 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 5: you endorsed it, you were on board. I would, by 246 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 5: the way, I'd still do it in the hardware. I'm sorry. 247 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 5: I love that. This is an incredible performance. I remember 248 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 5: what I was doing when we went for fifty four, Like, 249 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 5: let's be honest, who knows how long this will stand 250 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:22,839 Speaker 5: as a Rappers record. I don't know, it could be 251 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,719 Speaker 5: another ten fifteen years was today's NBA. It'll probably last 252 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 5: for a year or two and someone will go for 253 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 5: fifty nine. But anyway, well, still Patrick's Day. 254 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 6: Saint Patrick's Day is next March or in the next month, 255 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 6: so it's gonna fall. I don't know, og probably sixty. 256 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, let's go og. Let's go og for fifty five. 257 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 5: Let's say fifty five on St. Patrick's Day. But yeah, 258 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 5: I'd still do the trade. But it was great, Timingly, 259 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 5: it's just hilarious that you were proposing this. I mean, 260 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 5: this probably bodes well. We're going to get to a 261 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 5: beal trade later today. We asked you to come up 262 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 5: with a trade for the Bulls, so I'm sure, uh, 263 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 5: auto porter is gonna go for I don't. 264 00:12:55,200 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 7: Know, yeah, yeah, yeah. It could be like the trade bump, 265 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 7: the trade speculation bump. 266 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 5: That's uh, maybe that's it. 267 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 7: Maybe that's what people are gonna say, Hey, can you 268 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,199 Speaker 7: can you now do a trade for my team to 269 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 7: get this player going. That's what I want to say, 270 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 7: you happen instead of getting all the height tweets. Maybe 271 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 7: it'll be that I'll be like, quick, say something to 272 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,319 Speaker 7: good about this, Say something that this guy get in front. 273 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 5: In this machine made exactly man, what a wild wild 274 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 5: I mean, look it, I was saying with people on Twitter, 275 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 5: you know, when he had like nine ten, people are like, oh, 276 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 5: the record's following Clay's fourteen's falling. I'm like, I'm not 277 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 5: so sure. I'm not so sure. I mean, he still 278 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 5: has a while to go here. And you the team 279 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 5: does start to play you differently, right, like you know 280 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 5: you've hit nine or ten threes on their head, they're 281 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 5: gonna switch up their defensive game plan on you a 282 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 5: little bit. And the magic did. But I think it 283 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 5: actually helped Van Vliet get to the fifty four to 284 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 5: beat the Rozans record. Because you said it, Lee, He's 285 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 5: not like, well, I'll just you know, I think it 286 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 5: also it sort of helped Slash hurt him, is a 287 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 5: weird way to put it, but like he's not like 288 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 5: six six sixty seven and could just shoot over guys too, right, 289 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 5: Like Van Vleet's threes have to with a little separation, 290 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 5: you know, have to come and transition or off a 291 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 5: nice high pick and roll or be wide open like 292 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 5: they were leaving him early on, like Trey said, but 293 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 5: when they took that away, it took a space away. Well, 294 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 5: he actually then was like, okay, I'll just start going 295 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 5: for layup fast year. He had like three layups at 296 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 5: the end, and that actually helped him. I think, you know, 297 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 5: sir Pastor Rosen's record instead of just trying to gun 298 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 5: away for a Danielle Marshall or a zach Lavine like 299 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 5: thirteen or of course Clay fourteen. Do you know what 300 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 5: I mean by that? 301 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 7: Yeah. I think the fifty fourth point, I believe was 302 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 7: the one where he was so uncontested underneath. Carl Larry 303 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 7: put it to him and he almost fumbled it and 304 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 7: then just picked it up and laid it in because 305 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 7: again the Magic was so wary of him being out 306 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 7: there expecting him to go for that three point record, 307 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 7: that he just kind of walked into the paint and scored. 308 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 7: I mean the game was over anyway. I mean the 309 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 7: Raptors had a fairly big lead in this one. In fact, 310 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 7: I was watching with my eight year old son and 311 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 7: on one of the possessions they credited I think it 312 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 7: was on that one they actually credited the Magic with 313 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 7: a two pointer and they didn't correct it for like 314 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 7: like a minute or two, and he was watching because 315 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 7: it had the score a little bit closer, and he 316 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 7: was saying, they gave that lowry, that fred van Vliet 317 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 7: basket to the Magic And I was like really, And 318 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 7: I went back and I checked and he was right, 319 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 7: and I was like, this is interesting. They haven't checked it. 320 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 7: They haven't, they haven't updated, but eventually they did. So 321 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 7: he was out there watching and keeping an eye on 322 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 7: things and making sure that he was there. He can 323 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 7: say now, my eight year old who was born in 324 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 7: Toronto Raptors fan, he was watching the day Freddie van 325 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 7: Vliet set the Raptors record. 326 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 5: Wow, that's pretty pretty incredible. I hope you told them 327 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 5: the van Vleet story man, in all honesty, like, hey, 328 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 5: this guy wasn't drafted. Did you get all into it? 329 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 5: We were not, oh that deep. He's only just really started. 330 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 5: He has a life lesson. Man, that's an opportunity you 331 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 5: just blew there. 332 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 7: Yeah. I mean, yeah, we're still learning the particulars of 333 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 7: the game. I mean, the thing is about it, Like now, 334 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 7: I think about what time this was last night and 335 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 7: he was still up late. Yeah, I mean that's the 336 00:15:56,440 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 7: thing he's found. He's found a loophole in Dad's bedtime routine. 337 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 7: It's like if I'm watching basketball with Dad and I'm 338 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 7: asking questions, Wow, there, and I think I can stay 339 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 7: up a little bit later. So he did. He stayed up, 340 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 7: and he was very excited. The thing is, you know, 341 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 7: he was born in Toronto, but he's lived in Atlanta 342 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 7: for like seven years. Still a Raptors man. You will 343 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 7: not shake him. He's a Raptor fan for life. So 344 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 7: that's good to know. 345 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 5: So at least one person's happy out there that we 346 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 5: started this show with Fred Vlee. 347 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 7: Yes, he was watching the highlights again this morning too 348 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 7: on the NBA's YouTube channel because they had the little 349 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 7: Fred package there, and he. 350 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 5: Was like, oh, this is great. You're shooting threes. 351 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 7: And the thing is, you know, it just looks so 352 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 7: easy when you are watching a guy out there just 353 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 7: shoot those threes. And I'm a little bit worried when 354 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 7: we go out into the driveway later on that you know, 355 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 7: like I said last week, he's going to want to 356 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 7: step back and just be shooting threes all after and 357 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 7: I say, no, you've got to. 358 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 5: Shon the layups. 359 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 2: Good point. 360 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 5: Good point. That's what put him over the top. Anything. 361 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 5: I mean, this could be look a good victory for 362 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 5: the Raps too. Of course they need all these w's 363 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 5: that can get right now because they started so slowly. Know, 364 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 5: you wonder, and it's it's not guaranteed, but you wonder 365 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 5: if one of these crazy performances sort of ignites them 366 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 5: a little bit and an offense that of course has 367 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 5: looked very stagnant at times. And there there always seems 368 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 5: to be within our Raptors game, you know, five six, seven. 369 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 5: Sometimes you have more minutes where the Raptors just look 370 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 5: like garbage offensively and just nothing looks easy. Maybe it 371 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 5: gets them going, maybe it does it. Lowry had a 372 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 5: triple double. Also in this game, a lot of the 373 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 5: the assists the variety of like just handed to Van 374 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 5: Vleet type things. So you gotta love that when guys 375 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 5: just hitting threes, let's just give them a ball. There's 376 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 5: an assist. Sweet awesome. But yeah, we'll see if it 377 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 5: gets the Raps going a little bit. But as that's 378 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 5: definitely a like whatever, like a bonding experience for the squad, 379 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 5: Like everybody loves Van Vleet, everybody, I mean there, there 380 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 5: they were. He talked about it like it was cool 381 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 5: to him that the guys on the team are more 382 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 5: excited than he was. And you actually believe that coming 383 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 5: from fand mvleet, So that's pretty cool. Anything else to 384 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 5: add from this winner? You want to get to the 385 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 5: game possibly of the year, let's go to it. Well, Skates, 386 00:17:59,280 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 5: hold on it real. 387 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 6: You said you're always going to remember where you were 388 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 6: when Fred Van Vliet got fifty four. Obviously mast is 389 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 6: going to remember. Do you remember where you were when 390 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 6: Charlie Villanueva scored forty eight? 391 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 5: I remember where you. 392 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 6: Were because it's crazy seeing Charlie Villanueva so high up 393 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 6: on the all time Raptors single game scoring list. When 394 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 6: you see that, when you see that, you see Terrence 395 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 6: Ross amongst the highest numbers ever obviously with fifty one, 396 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 6: Tomorrow fifty two, Vince Carter fifty one. Those are classes, 397 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 6: Those are big time scores. Those are all star guys. 398 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 6: Fred Van Vliet, Terrence Ross, Charlie Villanueva. That's the Corey 399 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 6: Brewer variety. For being quite honest, Fred Van Vliet's better 400 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 6: than Corey Brewer, but I mean they're still in the 401 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 6: same mix. Do you remember the Charlie villain away. 402 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 5: No, I don't know. I know him doing it. I 403 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:45,439 Speaker 5: don't remember where I was. I don't know if I 404 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 5: was even watching it. Really, like a handful of games, 405 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 5: I actually remember what the heck I was doing where 406 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 5: I was. But this one for sure for sure, mainly 407 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 5: because it happened during a pandemic and I'll just go, oh, yeah, 408 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 5: I was at home watching home. 409 00:18:58,800 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 6: I love that one. 410 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 7: I remember correctly. Charlie was a rookie at the time, 411 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 7: and it was against the Milwaukee Bucks. I think it 412 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 7: was in Milwaukee, Okay, And I actually think I may, 413 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 7: I might not. Just I think it was a Sunday. 414 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 7: I think because. 415 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:16,439 Speaker 6: Somebody the game started at three thirty pm. Yeah, it's 416 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 6: probably a Sunday on Sunday a lot. 417 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 7: Well, And I think because I was playing pickup ball 418 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 7: and I came home and it was like Charlie's on, 419 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 7: you know, Charlie's feeing away has got like forty. I 420 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 7: think it was a Sunday, So I do. I do 421 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:29,199 Speaker 7: kind of remember. 422 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 5: Excellent, excellent, Okay, let's go to uh, let's go to 423 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 5: the other big game from last day, Kyrie Irving. He 424 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 5: scored thirty nine, as the Nets cooled off the Clips 425 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 5: with a one twenty four one twenty victory. Very very 426 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 5: fun gamely, what's a big takeaway? 427 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 7: This game wouldn't end man? 428 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 5: That Yeah, the. 429 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 6: Come on, that's your big takeaway? This awesome game last 430 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 6: and too long? 431 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 7: My god, you mean you. 432 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 5: Mean the Steve Nash decision when he started like, let's 433 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 5: foul here up three. It took a while. 434 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 7: It just felt like that last minute and a half 435 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 7: just sort it seemed to drag on and on. But 436 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 7: what I will say about this is the one weakness 437 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 7: that I have concerned for the Nets is their defense. 438 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 7: Everyone basically does because they don't defend. I thought last night, 439 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 7: particularly in that second half, they put in the effort defensively, 440 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 7: and you could tell it just made it harder for 441 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 7: the Clippers to score and coming down the stretch. I 442 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 7: thought it was that the Net like Kyrie Irving was great. 443 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 7: Of course, James Harden was great and Durant. You know, 444 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 7: I should never beat against Kevin Round. I know we'll 445 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 7: get to it in the pick them later, but of 446 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 7: course the Nets would come out on top with Kevin around. 447 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 7: But I just felt that the Nets when they really 448 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 7: show that they want to put in the effort defensively, 449 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 7: they can just make a huge difference to their team 450 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 7: and because they've got the offensive firepower. But if you 451 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 7: are going to concede baskets at the other end, like 452 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 7: we saw against the Wizards on Sunday night, teams can 453 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:53,919 Speaker 7: score so easily against them and you just can't afford. 454 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 7: You can understand why they kind of took their foot 455 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 7: off the gas against the Wizards because it's the Wizards. 456 00:20:57,920 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 7: But against the Clippers, it was like, you're going to 457 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 7: get it's going to come back to haunt you. But 458 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 7: it didn't on this occasion. So the nets one and 459 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 7: after the game, Paul George, I had a good game, 460 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 7: was asked about whether or not, you know, he should 461 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 7: have gotten more free throws because he only had one 462 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 7: trip to the free throw line. So I dug into 463 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 7: it a little bit. I thought, I wonder if it 464 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 7: is disrespectful. I don't think it is, but Paul George 465 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 7: simply doesn't get to the free throw line enough for 466 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 7: a guy to say it was disrespectful. And his last 467 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 7: six games, he's only gotten to the free throw line 468 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 7: more than three times once. Yeah, he's had two trips, 469 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 7: two trips, three trips, two trips, and then one trip 470 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 7: last night. So I don't think that's really justified. He's 471 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 7: only averaging less than four free throw attempts per game. So, 472 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 7: Paul George, my point is, he's a superstar player, an 473 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 7: offensive juggernaut, an incredibly talented guy. Put yourself in a 474 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 7: position where the referees have to make more foul calls. 475 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 7: I think that's the problem. I think he just doesn't 476 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 7: sort of make enough situations where the referees are forced 477 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 7: to send him to the free throw line. So I 478 00:21:58,440 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 7: think I think it has to come back to him 479 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,719 Speaker 7: a little bit more. I mean, and you know, not 480 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 7: saying that that was the reason they lost this game, 481 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 7: but I just sort of was surprised that he doesn't 482 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 7: get to the free throw line more for a guy 483 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 7: who's you know, one or one I on the AT 484 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,199 Speaker 7: team in terms of their offensive output. I think he 485 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 7: needs to be a little bit more aggressive and just 486 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 7: Mike referees Mike those calls. I think that's the problem. Yeah, 487 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 7: he said it was disrespectful. The one free throw attempt. 488 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 5: Wasn't that him just doing basically what Perkins just did. 489 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 5: For our tweet, of the Night yesterday saying I had 490 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 5: a couple of double doubles trying to slip himself into 491 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 5: the mix there the twenty twelve finals. What I mean 492 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 5: by that is Brooklyn's star trio. They all go to 493 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 5: the line, you know in this game, sixteen or sixteen total, 494 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 5: I mean for those three. So it wasn't like they 495 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 5: were shooting twenty free throws here quiet eight for nine 496 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 5: and then Pg's like, hey, I'm also a star here too. 497 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 5: Oh I only got one? Where's my free throws? I 498 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 5: should be in the mix too. So I didn't take 499 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 5: too much from it in watching the game. I didn't 500 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 5: think he was like hosed with a bad call or 501 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 5: anything like that. Lee. So yeah, I think that's just 502 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,679 Speaker 5: classic Paul George saying hey, hey, hey, well what about me? 503 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 5: Hey what about hey guys, I'm a superstar two of 504 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 5: these five guys out here. But anyway, what'd you think 505 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,199 Speaker 5: Tray of that blitz, especially that the nets went on 506 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 5: like that thirteen oh run. I think it was sort 507 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 5: of you know, gave them the lead. I know it 508 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 5: got close at the end, It got a little dicey 509 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 5: at the end for them, but that was special where 510 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 5: Durant and then Kyrie Cooking, and then I think it 511 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 5: was hard and cap it off with that step back three. Right. 512 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,199 Speaker 6: Oh, that was some hot stuff right there, Skeets. And 513 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 6: that's why to me, the Nets are the favorite in 514 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 6: the Eastern Conference because they got three guys that can 515 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 6: go out and score twenty in the fourth quarter anytime. 516 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 6: Even Paul George said it felt like they were just 517 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 6: taking turns making shots on us, and that's exactly what 518 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 6: the Nets were doing. The defense. Yeah, Lee, I can 519 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 6: understand why people still think that that's going to be 520 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 6: a concern, but I don't because I saw this incredible 521 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 6: stat from John Schumann last night. The kind of stat 522 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 6: you see and you know this is going to be 523 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 6: on every podcast tomorrow. The Nets are nine and three 524 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 6: versus teams over five hundred, four and six versus teams 525 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 6: under five hundred. Obviously, they're playing down to their competition. 526 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 6: They're happy to let the Wizard score one hundred and 527 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 6: fifty points, but they know they got to play defense 528 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 6: against the team like the Cliff to beat him. They 529 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 6: were engaged last night. Kyrie Irving basically said that saying, 530 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 6: we know this is a team that we could run 531 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 6: into down the line saying we're going to be in 532 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 6: the finals. Are you going to be there? They know 533 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 6: they had to play hard, They know they had to 534 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 6: actually be engaged on the defensive end. They're not just 535 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 6: going to be able to outscore a Clippers team who 536 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 6: plays defense and has been a pretty solid offensive team 537 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 6: as well. So to me, it seems like the Nets 538 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 6: are just going to play harder when they play against 539 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 6: good teams. No surprise when you've got those three guys 540 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 6: as your stars. They were locked in last night. Harden 541 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 6: looking the most like a point guard I think he 542 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,959 Speaker 6: ever has playing with the Nets. He's bringing the ball up, 543 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 6: he's facilitating everything, and then he's getting buckets when they 544 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 6: need him to get buckets. I thought it was an 545 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 6: interesting discussion with Dwayne Wade and Candae Parker talking about 546 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 6: the difference between who do you want taking the last 547 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 6: shot versus who do you want orchestrating things down the stretch, 548 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 6: because it does feel like the Nets are probably at 549 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 6: their most dangerous when Harden is orchestrating things for the 550 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,439 Speaker 6: last three or four minutes of the game, getting Katie 551 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,959 Speaker 6: and Kyrie involved, and then if you need an absolute bucket, 552 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 6: you can just give it to KD who's going to 553 00:24:58,200 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 6: be able to guard him. A cheat code is what 554 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 6: can this? Parker keeps calling them, and that's exactly what 555 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 6: it is. Then that's our look in tough. 556 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, they look great. There's no doubt. I got that 557 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 5: back going with tasks. I say they don't get to 558 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 5: the finals. He took that they would after the hard 559 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 5: and trade we made that they look good. I mean 560 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 5: they just I mean when Kevin Durant, you're right, it 561 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 5: is like just the ultimate release valve. You're like, Okay, 562 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 5: just go get us too, get us a great shot. Okay, 563 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 5: no problem, I'll get us a good looking shot. It 564 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 5: might go in. And then yeah, when Kyrie's cooking as well, 565 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 5: I mean it's it's unbelievable yet some incredible layups. I 566 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 5: mean to the point now you don't even get that 567 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 5: excited about them, because Kyrie does like these two or 568 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 5: three like insane sort of jelly like layups, like weird 569 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 5: rolls on them or like flips off the other side 570 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 5: of the backboard like underneath. He does it like two 571 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 5: or three times a game. But I'm glad you're about 572 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 5: up the Kyrie quote their Trey because it was made 573 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 5: me think about something you sort of said, like he 574 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 5: alluded to after the game, like yeah, well if we 575 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 5: see them again type of thing, like we'll see him 576 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 5: in the finals, right, sort of like stamping the Nets 577 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 5: to the finals. Like that's obviously their aspirations, and that 578 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 5: makes sense because they got all these stars. But I 579 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 5: think it's a little weird, especially when you pair it 580 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 5: with they good against great teams down to the you know, 581 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 5: the competition when they play subpar teams. We sort of 582 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 5: railed on the Clippers last year for like carrying themselves 583 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 5: like they had already won a title when you're like, you, 584 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 5: guys haven't really done anything yet, but they sort of 585 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 5: had that sort of vibe to them. The Nets are 586 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,679 Speaker 5: doing that now too, But I just I'm like, is 587 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 5: it the same? Is it different? Because of course Katie 588 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,719 Speaker 5: and Kyrie have already won, though quite Leonard had already won, 589 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 5: but he's a different type of leader. Maybe I don't know. 590 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 5: It's just like, is there any concern that they could 591 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 5: be doing a little bit what the Clippers did? And 592 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 5: we got on them for last year like hey, you're 593 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 5: pretending you've already want a chip without having actually even 594 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 5: gone to the finals here with this squad, You know 595 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 5: what I mean? Is that fair or is it completely 596 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 5: different because of the makeup of the team. 597 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 6: I think it's totally fair. The difference I would say 598 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 6: is that the Clippers all through last season were resting guys, 599 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 6: which the Nets have certainly done, and the resting was 600 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 6: proving to be a problem. You heard comments coming out 601 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 6: of the locker room from Montrez Harral it just didn't 602 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 6: look like they were completely connected on the court. I 603 00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,199 Speaker 6: don't think that's the case with the Nets right now. 604 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 6: They look like they are loving playing alongside each other. 605 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 6: And yeah, if they end up blowing a three to 606 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 6: one lead to the Sixers in the playoffs, or are we 607 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 6: going to look back and say, maybe you should have 608 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 6: played harder against the Wizards in January. I guess that's 609 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 6: certainly possible. But right now they're clicking and they're still 610 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 6: going to get better. They still have moves to make right. 611 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 6: They're still going to figure out somebody who's going to 612 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 6: help a little bit on the glass. They're going to 613 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 6: figure out somebody who's going to be able to be 614 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 6: a wing defender. Maybe that's Amn Schumpert. Whenever he gets 615 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 6: totally ready to be playing again. I'm personally not worried 616 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:28,919 Speaker 6: about the Nets. I don't think the chemistry is going 617 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 6: to be a problem. It feels like James Harden and 618 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 6: Kyrie Irving are smilier than they've been for the past 619 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 6: three seasons. I'm loving what I'm seeing from Brooklyn, and. 620 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 7: I think that a lot of that comes down, though, 621 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,679 Speaker 7: to the different leadership styles of Kevin Durant versus Kawhi 622 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 7: Leonard last year in LA I just feel that Kevin 623 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 7: Durant just carries that weight around with him where it's like, 624 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,479 Speaker 7: you know, I'm not going to let things get too 625 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 7: crazy here. You know, He's the leader, whereas I think 626 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 7: Kawhi was more focused on himself and his own you know, game, 627 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 7: in his own regime and taking those games off when 628 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 7: he wanted to. I think Kevin Drant's just not like that, 629 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 7: even though he's obviously missed a couple of games here 630 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 7: with rest and that as well, that that's going to 631 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 7: happen because he's coming off the Achilles injuries. But it 632 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 7: just feels to me that Kevin Durant, as the leader 633 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 7: of that locker room, things are a little bit more 634 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 7: in control and they won't get too far ahead of themselves, 635 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 7: you know, So that that's just how it feels different. 636 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 7: I mean, they're not you know, they're not a finished 637 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 7: product yet. They still do have you know, one or 638 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 7: two weaknesses there. But as long as he's on the court, 639 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 7: it feels like they can beat any other team. It 640 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 7: really does. 641 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:28,719 Speaker 4: It does. 642 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 7: It certainly doesn't feel like there's a better team in 643 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 7: the Eastern Conference anyway than the Nets. 644 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, Nets are I believe not to one up Schumann 645 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 5: here with his nine and three stat versus five hundred 646 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 5: plus teams. I think they're six and zero on national 647 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 5: TV too. They haven't even lost. Yeah, I think I 648 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 5: saw that from Nets Daily where Schumann used to work. 649 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 5: I think, boy, there so all just that's coming out 650 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 5: of Jersey these days. I'm just chugging it out there. 651 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 5: You said it got a little long in the tooth 652 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 5: at the end there, Leary, You're not wrong. I mean 653 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 5: to take a while, but because it almost backfire, I thought, 654 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 5: you know Nash's strategy, fine, do the old foul up three. 655 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 5: They put Kawhi on the line, and then there were 656 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 5: some buckets made, and then I think it was the 657 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 5: Clippers throwing it ahead. But Toom got fouled right at 658 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 5: around mid court with about I don't know, there's like 659 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 5: three seconds to go, and there was. After you saw 660 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 5: the replay, you're like, Okay, it's no big deal. But 661 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 5: there was some worry that it was going to be 662 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 5: a clear path foul. Yeah, and you know, they took 663 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 5: a look at it, and in the end, of course 664 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 5: it was not, so it didn't matter. But are you 665 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 5: a fanly? I guess I wanted to get to this. 666 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 5: Are you a fan of the fouling? When you're up three, 667 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 5: just follow the other team, don't let them take a 668 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 5: three point shot. Just put them on the line and 669 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 5: have trust in your free throw shooters and your indoubting abilities, 670 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 5: which backfired against the Wizards obviously. What do you. 671 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 7: Think, Yeah, I think you don't want to give that 672 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,959 Speaker 7: other team a chance just to get a three pointer rout. 673 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 7: We've just seen so many crazy shots, so many times 674 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 7: that the other team can hit it, So yeah, put 675 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 7: him to the free throw line if you can't get 676 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 7: them to have the situation where they can kind of 677 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 7: hit one and then potentially miss the other one and 678 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 7: try to get the three points made up that way, 679 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 7: I mean, it. 680 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 5: Wasn't that hilarious with Bia tried to hit the first one, Yeah, 681 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 5: but he missed, and then he tried to miss the 682 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 5: second one. 683 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 7: And before that, Jeff Green could have basically sealed the 684 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 7: game anyway because he had that that that where he 685 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 7: was down the other end of the court and he 686 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 7: put the ball in. I can't think it was Reggie 687 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 7: Jackson who found him sort of should have wrapped him up, didn't. 688 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 7: Jeff Green hits it, then goes the free throw line, 689 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 7: he misses, and then and then yeah, battoom. He couldn't 690 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 7: hit the first and then potentially miss the second. But yeah, yeah, 691 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 7: I just would never give the other team a chance 692 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 7: to even get that three pointer off, especially when he 693 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 7: got Paul George who just hit a crazy three from 694 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 7: the corner prior to that as well. That that made 695 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 7: it a one point game. You know, Kawhi hit some 696 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 7: big shots in his career and Maris as well. And 697 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 7: if you got someone like Reggie Jackson, if one of 698 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 7: those guys is open and they can get a three off, 699 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 7: you don't want that afe you opposition, just just anyone 700 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 7: put them to the free throw line and try to 701 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 7: have them make that crazy situation of missing a free 702 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 7: throw and then somehow getting the two, because that's far 703 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 7: less likely to happen. 704 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's why we need to have those extra long 705 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 6: last two minutes. 706 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 5: Lee. 707 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 6: You got to see the growth from Steve Nash, and 708 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 6: I'm not really joking here. You look at the Wizards game. 709 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 6: They didn't foul up three when they easily could up. 710 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 6: They didn't advance the ball with a timeout, so the 711 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 6: Wizards had a good shot when Garrison Matthews gets the steal. 712 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 6: Both of those things changed last night. And then Steve Nash, 713 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,479 Speaker 6: it seems like he's had something to do with this. 714 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 6: Jeff Green streaking down the courtway and the like Harden 715 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 6: and who is at Joe Harris are kind of like 716 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 6: deciding who's gonna take out the ball. We're all fool 717 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 6: and stuff. It reminds me of our coach seventh grade 718 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 6: shout out mister Buck. He put in a play that 719 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 6: all these dumb coaches had in the nineties where somebody 720 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 6: would go and start barking on the like on the ground. 721 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 6: You're like, oh, look at that dumb dumb barking over there. 722 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 6: Suddenly you get a layup underneath the hoop. This was 723 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 6: almost the NBA version of that. Steve Nash, he's becoming 724 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 6: a coach. I do love that. Fifteen years later, he's saying, 725 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 6: Mike D'Antoni, I know me and you we were not 726 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 6: able to win a title doing all offense, no defense. 727 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 6: But we're going for it again. We're going for it again. 728 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 6: And now I'm calling timeouts at the end of the game. 729 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 5: I actually love I love the Nets decision to foul 730 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 5: if they're up three. I love that idea because you 731 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 5: don't really play defense as it is, so I trust 732 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 5: in your three superstars, Harden, Kadi, and Kyrie, who are 733 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 5: all great free throw shooters. And if Joe Harris is 734 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 5: out there, I mean that's basically guaranteed money too, Like 735 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 5: I'll take those ods. I like that, so do it 736 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 5: if they get aury situation. 737 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 7: Ninety four percent of the line this season, which is incredible. 738 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 7: But you know, I just wondered if vivek Ranadiv was 739 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 7: watching last night when Jeff Green was just hanging down 740 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 7: the other end there, and also I was trying to 741 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 7: workshop some sort of offside joke in there. You know, 742 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 7: Steve Nash knows a big soccer guy got asked about 743 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 7: it during the broadcast, and I was gonna say, it's 744 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 7: a great move, but surely Steve Nash knows that's offside. 745 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 5: But I couldn't quite. 746 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 7: I couldn't quite get the wording right, so I left 747 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 7: it out. But there's something there. Anyway, I'll think about 748 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 7: it for next game. If you've got any ideas, let 749 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 7: me know. 750 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 5: Wow, ware to show restraint there. Most people just fire 751 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 5: off whatever tweet. 752 00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 4: They have in the r Yeah. 753 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 5: I just couldn't quite. I couldn't quite bridge the two sports. 754 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 7: To make it perfect. You know what I'm saying. You know, like, 755 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 7: great move, but surely Nash knows that's off side. You know, 756 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 7: he could have cost his team a possession. 757 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 5: But maybe maybe a var joke in there. I don't know. 758 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, anyway, Okay, let's. 759 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 5: Just quickly, I'll hit you with the other games from 760 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 5: last night, Trey, tell me if there's anything that jumped 761 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 5: out to you. The Pacers top Memphis one thirty four 762 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 5: one sixteen. They snapped the Grizzlies seven game win streak, 763 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 5: which had basically went back a month because the Grizzlies 764 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 5: had a couple of weeks off there. Uh, Lillard scored 765 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 5: thirty two to lead the short handed Blazers past the 766 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 5: Wizards one thirty two one. Jazz survived a late rally, 767 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 5: they beat the Pistons one seventeen, one oh five, and finally, 768 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 5: in the old Nightcap, Tatum and the Celtics held off 769 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 5: Curry and the Warriors one eleven one. Seven of those 770 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 5: four games, is there one or two that year you 771 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 5: got something you want to share with the people. 772 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 6: Well, I did enjoy that last game Celtics versus Warriors. 773 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 6: Steph was awesome, almost pulled out a win single handedly, 774 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 6: But wins start at the rim. No, James Wiseman for 775 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 6: the Warriors. Come on, Looney rolled an ankle and it 776 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 6: was kind of a rap after there. I thought, twenty 777 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,800 Speaker 6: points in the paint in the second half for the Celtics, 778 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 6: ten of those were Jalen Brown. The guy just has 779 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 6: a great sense for the moment. He knows when to 780 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 6: assert his will. He had a big time drive for 781 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,800 Speaker 6: a dunk about four minutes left that kind of felt 782 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,399 Speaker 6: like the dagger to me. Jason Tatum was great again 783 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 6: twenty seven nine and three four threes. I really like 784 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 6: the TMT discussion they had about him. At half, Dwayne 785 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 6: Wade explaining exactly how Jason Tatum can get to the 786 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 6: next level, how he can improve his playmaking, which you know, 787 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 6: his is this percentage has been going up, up, up, 788 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 6: up up. He's averaging a career high and assists. He 789 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 6: is getting better on at playmaking. 790 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:42,839 Speaker 5: But I don't know. 791 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 6: I just thought, you know, the Celtics, it was almost 792 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 6: a business like win. They had to get this win, 793 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 6: especially when there was nobody inside for the Warriors. But 794 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 6: they went out there and they did it, and you know, 795 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 6: shout out to TNT. We were crushing them when Shaq 796 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 6: was trashing Donovan Mitchell. I thought Dwayne Wade and Candae 797 00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 6: Parker were awesome last night. And I enjoyed Jim jaf 798 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 6: on this call as well. He talked about Andrew Wiggins 799 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 6: playing mindless basketball and he meant it as a good thing. 800 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:07,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, and that was right there with him. 801 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:08,799 Speaker 6: This was a fun one to stay up for. 802 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a good, good call. Jim Jackson. I like 803 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 5: him on the call. And Candae is like one of 804 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 5: the best studio analysts, and Wade is you know, fairly 805 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 5: new at it, and I think he is getting better 806 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,479 Speaker 5: and better. They at least have a joy for the game, 807 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 5: which Wow, turns out it helps it makes him for 808 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 5: a more enjoyable watch or listen. Anything to add from 809 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 5: any of those games lately. 810 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 7: Does Jim Jackson, I mean to see a singer. He's 811 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 7: got an incredible voice. 812 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 5: I think he got a better voice Bill Kennedy or 813 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:33,800 Speaker 5: Jim Jackson. 814 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,320 Speaker 7: Jim, I think Jim, Yeah, yeah, I think Billy does. 815 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 7: I think you have how don't know? Jim to me 816 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 7: is like a real krooner out there. You know, it 817 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,359 Speaker 7: sounds like he could easily just pick up the mIRC 818 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 7: and just start singing a song. 819 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:51,240 Speaker 5: He's got a credible voice. That's the big takeaway from those. 820 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 7: The one big takeaway from the game, you know, great 821 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 7: great win there from the Celtics is Campbell Walker moving well. 822 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 7: I think is just so important for the Celtics. And 823 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,280 Speaker 7: you know he's struggled a little bit with injury this season, 824 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:04,839 Speaker 7: but when he's out there and he hit those couple 825 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 7: of those step backs, that gigantic step back that you 826 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 7: can see it's coming, but he can still do it, 827 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 7: and he shook off Draymond Green there too late last night. 828 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 7: I mean, it's just incredible how he's still able to 829 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,840 Speaker 7: get to that spot so efficiently when he kind of 830 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,399 Speaker 7: builds up to it, you know, like you would sort 831 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 7: of almost think like stay with him, just wait for 832 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,839 Speaker 7: that step back and move with him. But he can 833 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 7: still get rid of his defender pretty easily. So I 834 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 7: hope he can stay healthy and stay on the court 835 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:29,800 Speaker 7: because he's a fun guy to watch. 836 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,840 Speaker 5: Good win from the Celtics there and the Jazz I 837 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 5: think now the number one team in the league after 838 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 5: the Clippers lost that last night. So percentage, why is 839 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 5: the Jazz, you know, rallying or bouncing back from a loss. 840 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 5: Got a victory on some pistons. I know it's the 841 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 5: lowly pistons, but good stuff. And you know Piecers too 842 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,839 Speaker 5: needed sort of a victory there against the Griz, all. 843 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,479 Speaker 6: Right, And hey, how about those Blazers big time dunk 844 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 6: by Damian Lillard late. Yeah, then here's what I want 845 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 6: to ask you, Lee, because I asked the others on 846 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 6: Twitter last night. He had the big dunk and he 847 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 6: started looking at his rate risks. You know, Dame time. 848 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,839 Speaker 6: It's a celebration he's had in the past. Dame time. 849 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 6: He's looking at his right wrist, he's a right handed guy, 850 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 6: which would mean very weird that he's wearing his watch 851 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,719 Speaker 6: on his right hand. That's an unusual move. I went 852 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 6: back and watched the old Lollard time celebrations when he's 853 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 6: tapping on his wrist, he taps on his left wrist. 854 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 6: Which hand does he wear his watch on? I need 855 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 6: to know this. If he's he's one of these people. 856 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 5: He's one of these people that switches it up. You know, 857 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,400 Speaker 5: there are there are people in this world like my 858 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 5: buddy grish Well sleep on the on the you know, 859 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 5: when he when he was in a in a marriage, 860 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 5: he would sleep on the left side of the bed 861 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:36,319 Speaker 5: and on the right side of the bed. They would 862 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 5: switch it up. That's mind boggling. 863 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 6: That is crazy. 864 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 5: I could never wrap my head around that. I'm like, 865 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 5: what do you mean you actually sleep on the left 866 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 5: side of the bed sometimes and then on the right side. 867 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 5: You guys swap That's amazing to me. But so maybe 868 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 5: it's a it's a watch thing here with Lillard Lely. 869 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's interesting, isn't it, because uh, you know it 870 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 7: is your left wrist is the traditional place to wear 871 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 7: I mean, it's not a rule, it's not a lull, 872 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,239 Speaker 7: but that's generally where people put it. So, yeah, I 873 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 7: you know, when Trey and I was sort of chatting 874 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,840 Speaker 7: on Twitter last night, I say, hmm, I'm not really 875 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 7: sure why he would do that other than just to 876 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,399 Speaker 7: continue taunting Russell Westbrook because it seems as though Damon 877 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 7: Lillard's always got the better of Russell Westbrook. He had 878 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,360 Speaker 7: that big dunk and then of course the huge step 879 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 7: back three. Westbrook had a decent game too, actually, but 880 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,879 Speaker 7: it just feels like Lillard always gets the upper hand here. 881 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,400 Speaker 7: So maybe he's just tawny, but he's always ready to 882 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 7: celebrate or to pull it out there too. After he 883 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,279 Speaker 7: hit that monster step back, he's just sort of like, 884 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 7: I'm ready. So maybe he's got a fitbit or something 885 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:33,240 Speaker 7: that he wears. 886 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 5: You know, he's got a. 887 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:37,920 Speaker 6: Watch on one hand, and then sometimes if he has 888 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 6: a big shout, he's like how many steps? 889 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, maybe maybe I want to know. 890 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,400 Speaker 5: I guess the only other thing I can think of too, is, 891 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 5: like you said, Trey, like back in the day, he 892 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 5: would do it more of a tapping right, like like 893 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 5: I look at my watch, so that he's tapping is 894 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,360 Speaker 5: left right, So it's actually like as if the object 895 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 5: is there, it makes more sense it would be on 896 00:38:58,520 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 5: his left if he's right kind a guy. But now 897 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,360 Speaker 5: him just the miming of looking at a fake watch. 898 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 5: Maybe I was just thinking, would I just do like, 899 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 5: would I go right hand even though I wear my 900 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 5: watch on my left hand? You know, maybe there's something there. 901 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 5: It's like the actual action of the tapping to the 902 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,239 Speaker 5: miming of looking at it, that you would just go 903 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:15,799 Speaker 5: right hand. 904 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:17,879 Speaker 6: We got to put in a word that lamar heard 905 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 6: to get the final info. Or I guess we could 906 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,359 Speaker 6: probably like zoom in on some pictures of a little 907 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,880 Speaker 6: walking into the arena. Surely he's got a watch on 908 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 6: in some of these. 909 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 5: I think you just made up a new segment. Yeah yeah, 910 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 5: maybe they already do that, actually the pla. 911 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 7: Maybe maybe yeah, maybe little should just wear a watch 912 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 7: one game? 913 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:37,440 Speaker 6: Why not? 914 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:39,240 Speaker 5: It's illegal? 915 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:41,400 Speaker 7: I mean tennis plays way what they do? 916 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, well, I mean that'd be I can't hurt 917 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,440 Speaker 5: the other person, No, I would be. I didn't was 918 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 5: not a fan. You know, if you ever were in 919 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,760 Speaker 5: a pickup run and some guy would keep his watch 920 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,359 Speaker 5: on or a ring even like that, it's it's can 921 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 5: be dangerous. 922 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 6: You know. 923 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:57,479 Speaker 5: Sure, fingers can. 924 00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 7: Get caught, like I've broken more than one. Like god, 925 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,920 Speaker 7: who's wearing a chain? You know, not just through like 926 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 7: fingers get caught and. 927 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 6: Then they get up hit at you. 928 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 7: Oh you know, what do you do? 929 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:07,719 Speaker 5: Like, what's it? 930 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:09,359 Speaker 7: Just take it off, man? I mean as if I'm there, 931 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 7: like I'm gonna just like fuck it off him, now, 932 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 7: you know what I mean? Like it happens, Just get 933 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 7: rid of your jewelry unless it's to watching your Damien. 934 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,879 Speaker 5: No, you're not encourage wearing a watch while playing ball. 935 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,319 Speaker 5: All right. We got lots more here still on this one, 936 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:29,439 Speaker 5: but quick word from our sponsors, Trey, we forgot about 937 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 5: V Day. Chris Bouchet's going for fifty V Day man 938 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 5: before we get to the og. You know, March seventeenth, 939 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 5: Saint Patrick's Day explosion. Yeah, totally forgot about that one. 940 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 6: I mean, if they show up wearing red uniforms on 941 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,720 Speaker 6: Valentine's Day, you can lock a career high end for somebody. 942 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 5: Yeah. Absolutely, So it's Wednesday, We're gonna be hitting the beach. 943 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 5: As I said off the top of the show. Later 944 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 5: he can join us live on YouTube around three pm 945 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,759 Speaker 5: Eastern or you can just listen to the podcast later. 946 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,360 Speaker 5: Always a blast you guys, send in your questions and comments. 947 00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,240 Speaker 5: But to get us in the mood, I thought we would, 948 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,880 Speaker 5: uh well, hit beach early, set up our umbrella, you know, 949 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 5: get our towels down and stuff like that for task 950 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,440 Speaker 5: to arrive a little bit later. You know, just get 951 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,319 Speaker 5: the whole thing set up. So let's have a question 952 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:21,319 Speaker 5: or two. Let's hit the beach quickly. Yeah, we're on 953 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 5: the beach here again, officially on the beach later today 954 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 5: on Wednesday. I'm actually calling an audible here like I'm 955 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,720 Speaker 5: in the Super Bowl, Like I'm Tom Brady or Patrick 956 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 5: Mahomes who calls more audibles Tray, I'm guessing Brady, but 957 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 5: I have no idea. Maybe Mahomes is calling a lot 958 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,520 Speaker 5: at the line. But I'm gonna save this longer one 959 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 5: that we have a great one from Wilkerson about an 960 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,359 Speaker 5: Offensive Player of the Year award. I'm gonna save it. 961 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 5: We're gonna wear you, put it in our pocket and 962 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 5: get to it later in the week because I think 963 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,439 Speaker 5: it will take a little while to actually really break down. 964 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,800 Speaker 5: So Lee, we're gonna get to your Bradley Beal trade 965 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 5: that you've teased about the bulls, but we have one question. 966 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 5: Because we're on the beach, we gotta ask a question. Hi, boys, 967 00:41:58,120 --> 00:41:59,880 Speaker 5: I think I have the last part of the no 968 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:05,360 Speaker 5: dunks trifecta in a game Wedgie, Big Beef's the rebounds 969 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:10,360 Speaker 5: and Lonely Perfection. That's a working title, lonely perfection. What 970 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,800 Speaker 5: is that? It's when someone makes ten or more free 971 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 5: throws in a game without a miss, being perfect from 972 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,880 Speaker 5: the loneliest spot on the court. Lee could give practice 973 00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:23,440 Speaker 5: your free throw kids at the end of the segment 974 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,759 Speaker 5: or something like that. This idea from Hidar, Now, this 975 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 5: was this no dunks trifecta. I think it came up 976 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 5: in NBA Happy Hour right last week. What will be 977 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 5: the three things in a game? So what do you think, Lee? 978 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 5: We know the Wedgies one, we know Big Beef, twenty 979 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,920 Speaker 5: rebounds is the other one? This third one from Hydar 980 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,279 Speaker 5: Lonely perfection ten free throws without a miss out a game. 981 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:44,680 Speaker 6: What do you think? 982 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,880 Speaker 7: I think it's a great idea, but I'm actually going 983 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:51,360 Speaker 7: to lower the stand up a little bit because I believe, 984 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,759 Speaker 7: well I believe you only need to make like eight 985 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:58,200 Speaker 7: free throws in a game to be perfect because if 986 00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,920 Speaker 7: you mate. Yeah, but listen, if you were to go 987 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 7: eight out of ten from the line, you'd be eighty percent. 988 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 7: And eighty percent is like where you should be in 989 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,840 Speaker 7: the NBA as a free throw shooter. So if you 990 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,480 Speaker 7: can make eight, you don't have to go eight of ten. 991 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,120 Speaker 7: I'm just saying, if you can make eight, then that 992 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,399 Speaker 7: is lonely perfection because then you're at the threshold where 993 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 7: you can afford. 994 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,359 Speaker 5: But hold on eat for eat or eat for ten. 995 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,680 Speaker 7: No, it's like if you can get eight for eight 996 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:22,000 Speaker 7: to start with, right. 997 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,279 Speaker 5: Rather, pruction has to be a part of this. Yeah, 998 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 5: that's what I'm saying. 999 00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,480 Speaker 7: But by the time you get to eight for eight, 1000 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,000 Speaker 7: then you're at the threshold where even if you miss 1001 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,120 Speaker 7: the next two, you're still at eighty percent, which is 1002 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 7: the benchmark of what every NBA player should be at 1003 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:35,279 Speaker 7: the free throw line. 1004 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,160 Speaker 5: But we're not celebrating eighty percent, I know, but I'm 1005 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:38,680 Speaker 5: saying that. 1006 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,360 Speaker 7: I'm saying, if you make eight for eight, right, yes, 1007 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,680 Speaker 7: that is perfection on the ninth okay, right, okay. 1008 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,960 Speaker 5: But then you but you then you made it sound 1009 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,319 Speaker 5: like if you miss number nine, don't worry. We'll still 1010 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:49,880 Speaker 5: give you a long. 1011 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:51,759 Speaker 7: Yeah you won't, you won't get the lonely perfection, but 1012 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,719 Speaker 7: you'll at least be at at the threshold, which I think, 1013 00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,400 Speaker 7: you know, every NBA player should be at eighty percent? 1014 00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 5: You know, Okay, okay, So what do you think Tray 1015 00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,480 Speaker 5: of Heidar's you know proposal here? 1016 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,200 Speaker 6: Well, I'm with mellow Tron on this one. Eight of 1017 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:10,160 Speaker 6: eight is not snatching anybody's chain on the court. Come on, 1018 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,719 Speaker 6: May eight for eight. At least get me a ten 1019 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:16,799 Speaker 6: for ten lonely perfection. It sounds it actually sounds pretty good. 1020 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:18,040 Speaker 6: I like that. I like the name of it. But 1021 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:19,439 Speaker 6: I think we just need to give this a little 1022 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,439 Speaker 6: bit of time here. Big Beef just started one month ago. 1023 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:26,399 Speaker 6: The Wedgie has been around for seven years. Who knows 1024 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,000 Speaker 6: what the next thing is gonna be. Who knows if 1025 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 6: Big Beef has the staying power of the Weggie. The 1026 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 6: more and more I think about it, the Weggie is 1027 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 6: our greatest contribution to basketball. It's like inventing the word swish. 1028 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,080 Speaker 6: It's pretty impressive stuff. Is Big Beef as good as Weggie? 1029 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,359 Speaker 6: Not yet, but maybe it will be in seven years. 1030 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,040 Speaker 6: And maybe in seven years we find the perfect thing 1031 00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:47,720 Speaker 6: to the trifecta. But I'm loving people sending in their ideas. 1032 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,839 Speaker 6: Apparently we're gonna start getting free throw highlights now. Zach 1033 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,719 Speaker 6: low our buddy is tracking close out highlights. 1034 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 5: I shared one last night Tray. 1035 00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,880 Speaker 6: Oh that was a nice close That nice close out. 1036 00:44:58,920 --> 00:44:59,120 Speaker 5: Man. 1037 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 6: I'm like, this is getting ridiculous. We're gonna be tracking 1038 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,720 Speaker 6: every single thing. I'm surprised there's not a screen assists 1039 00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,759 Speaker 6: highlight package from the Utah Jazz, But I don't know. 1040 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:09,640 Speaker 6: It does feel to me like we've got a nice 1041 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,840 Speaker 6: two here in the Wedgie and the Big Beef. The 1042 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:15,239 Speaker 6: VSP feels like the natural third one to me. But 1043 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,040 Speaker 6: there's always a lot of debate about whether or not 1044 00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:21,560 Speaker 6: a play is too sexy solid enough. You know, sometimes 1045 00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,480 Speaker 6: a guy I'll finish with a soft dunkey. It's like, okay, 1046 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,239 Speaker 6: it's a dunkey. It would have been nice if it's 1047 00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,480 Speaker 6: a lefty layup. But it was a softy, so I 1048 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:29,400 Speaker 6: guess it's solid. 1049 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,799 Speaker 7: If it's not a very solid plight, it's a heads 1050 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,399 Speaker 7: up highlight of the Night's there you go? 1051 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,799 Speaker 5: Are you ripping packs tomorrow on Thursday? 1052 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,239 Speaker 7: No, but I'm looking forward to seeing some guy from 1053 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,560 Speaker 7: a former NBA player and a boat soon popping lips. 1054 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,840 Speaker 5: It's too good. Yeah, I don't mind this free throws. 1055 00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,359 Speaker 5: I love it because we know Lee loves the free throw, 1056 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,520 Speaker 5: so I like that link to the show. But I 1057 00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,480 Speaker 5: also just like we already have the rebounds. We already 1058 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,799 Speaker 5: have like a stat based one, you know what I mean? 1059 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,839 Speaker 5: And like, do we want another one for the trifecta 1060 00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,360 Speaker 5: because like, obviously the wedgie is not showing up in 1061 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:14,319 Speaker 5: the box score. Maybe I don't know, Like also, can 1062 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:18,080 Speaker 5: somebody look up like how how common or rare? I 1063 00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:19,880 Speaker 5: guess as a better way to put it is like 1064 00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,600 Speaker 5: someone going perfect at the line with ten free throws 1065 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,279 Speaker 5: in a game, Like I know that happens, but I 1066 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:29,239 Speaker 5: can't imagine it's happened. How many times this season? Has 1067 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,799 Speaker 5: it happened? Like three? Maybe, which is good. I'm not 1068 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,719 Speaker 5: saying that's bad. I want something that's pretty rare. I 1069 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:35,880 Speaker 5: don't want it to happen every second game. But if 1070 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,239 Speaker 5: you look that up, Lelia, I would I would love 1071 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:38,680 Speaker 5: to know that. 1072 00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,120 Speaker 7: I'm not sure, Hey, you would sort of get so 1073 00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:42,880 Speaker 7: let me say. 1074 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,799 Speaker 6: That I'm deep into the stat head right now. So 1075 00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:47,080 Speaker 6: we'll have an answer and. 1076 00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:50,520 Speaker 5: Okay, okay, yeah we can. We can always circle back 1077 00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,200 Speaker 5: to that. Yeah. So if you have another idea though, 1078 00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,920 Speaker 5: for the No Dunks trifecto, let us know right now. 1079 00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,840 Speaker 5: Lonely Perfection, it's it's in play. It's it's not a 1080 00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:00,799 Speaker 5: bad one. It's a great name. That's another part. You 1081 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,120 Speaker 5: gotta take a nice name for it. I think it's 1082 00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,640 Speaker 5: like hell, when we used to come up for segments 1083 00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,600 Speaker 5: on the show, we came up with the name first, 1084 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,800 Speaker 5: and then whatever the heck it was, showed it to Madio. 1085 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,240 Speaker 5: So you need to come up with like a nice 1086 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,760 Speaker 5: catchy thing Wedgie's Big Beef. Lonely Perfection. 1087 00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:20,160 Speaker 6: Wow, this seems ridiculous. Okay, talk to me eighty two 1088 00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,719 Speaker 6: times last year somebody went at least ten of ten 1089 00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:27,480 Speaker 6: from the line. Eighty two times. We're talking ten plus 1090 00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,120 Speaker 6: the best game. What am I seeing here? It's incredible 1091 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:35,120 Speaker 6: James Harden twenty four for twenty four. Wow, that's a 1092 00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:39,440 Speaker 6: double Lonely Perfection. What does it mean? Incredible stuff? I 1093 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:43,120 Speaker 6: mean eighty two times, that's too often. I'm honestly shocked 1094 00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:44,880 Speaker 6: that it happened so often. The guys are going ten 1095 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:45,560 Speaker 6: to ten for the. 1096 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,360 Speaker 5: Line Yeah, that's I would not have guessed it. I 1097 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:52,000 Speaker 5: was gonna guess like maybe fifty, thinking that was gonna 1098 00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:53,879 Speaker 5: be on the high end too. My guess, wow eighty 1099 00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,160 Speaker 5: two times? Look at that. Okay, well again, get your 1100 00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,919 Speaker 5: ideas in love it, love it so far though, Hider, 1101 00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:00,840 Speaker 5: I really appreciate the email. Keep them coming, guys, No 1102 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,239 Speaker 5: dunks at the Athletic dot Com. Okay, let's do the 1103 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,480 Speaker 5: Bill traded lily. You know again, we're going to inspire 1104 00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,279 Speaker 5: somebody on the Bulls because we inspired Fred van Vliet 1105 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,400 Speaker 5: to go for a franchise record fifty four after we 1106 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,440 Speaker 5: had him traded to the Wizards yesterday for Bill in 1107 00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,040 Speaker 5: some sort of package. So what do you got? What 1108 00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:16,719 Speaker 5: do you got for us? 1109 00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:18,960 Speaker 7: Okay, so yeah, we're trying to get him to the Bulls. 1110 00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,160 Speaker 7: This one's great because it's not going to happen at all. 1111 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,360 Speaker 7: Bit but the salaries obviously make it so easy with Otto, 1112 00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,960 Speaker 7: Porter Junior and Bradley Beal. But if you're the Wizards, 1113 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,040 Speaker 7: if you're the Wizards, you're going to say no, give 1114 00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,960 Speaker 7: us at least Zach Lavine. We don't want Otto back here. 1115 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:36,759 Speaker 7: Who do you think is older out of Bradley Beal 1116 00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:38,080 Speaker 7: and Otto Porter. 1117 00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,040 Speaker 5: Oh God, I went, I don't know, Cope it's outtle Porter, 1118 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:42,799 Speaker 5: but I'm sure it's not. 1119 00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:49,040 Speaker 7: Otto Porter was born on June the third, nineteen ninety three, okay, 1120 00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:54,439 Speaker 7: and Bradley Beal was born June twenty eighth, nineteen ninety three. 1121 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:55,160 Speaker 3: Wow. 1122 00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:59,200 Speaker 7: Wow, But Bradley Bell was drafted before Otto Porter a 1123 00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:02,759 Speaker 7: year before, which is interesting. But I feels to me 1124 00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,440 Speaker 7: like one of those guys who's been around the league 1125 00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:09,160 Speaker 7: for way longer. Yeah, it just feels like it's like 1126 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,440 Speaker 7: it's like that guy's in his like twelfth season already. 1127 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,120 Speaker 7: It just feels like that he altill. 1128 00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:17,840 Speaker 5: Just looks all too Yeah yeah actually this year. 1129 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:22,360 Speaker 7: Yeah right yeah yeah. So now so you know, for 1130 00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:24,840 Speaker 7: today's trade, it was like, wow, sweet, I'm just gonna 1131 00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:26,560 Speaker 7: I'm just gonna take the low hanging fruit and say, 1132 00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,640 Speaker 7: let's just trade Porter for Bal and then the do it. 1133 00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:33,040 Speaker 5: Then I'm in. I'm the Bulls, and the Bulls have. 1134 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:34,759 Speaker 7: To give up a couple of first rounders to make 1135 00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:35,160 Speaker 7: it happen. 1136 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,440 Speaker 5: But how many there we go? 1137 00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:38,240 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1138 00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,799 Speaker 5: I mean the Bulls have all theirs, right, I believe. 1139 00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,600 Speaker 7: Yes, I do, Yeah, I mean three three first rounders. 1140 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,239 Speaker 5: If you're the wiz couple of swaps three and three 1141 00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:47,480 Speaker 5: and two swaps, what do you say. 1142 00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,200 Speaker 6: Tree, I'm in Okay, we're still and the balls have 1143 00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:53,319 Speaker 6: been drafting in the top ten for the past four seasons. 1144 00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:56,360 Speaker 6: Let's stop drafting guys and get some real all stars 1145 00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:56,719 Speaker 6: in here. 1146 00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:58,800 Speaker 5: That's not a bad idea, Okay. 1147 00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,839 Speaker 7: Badly Well, I would like to see Levine and Bill 1148 00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:05,560 Speaker 7: how they would work together, because you know, Levigne's like 1149 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:07,720 Speaker 7: game has really extended out. You know, he can shoot 1150 00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:09,839 Speaker 7: that three, now shoot it with confidence obviously. I mean 1151 00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:13,840 Speaker 7: he's become a very consistent shooter. So would that back court? 1152 00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:15,480 Speaker 5: Would that? Would that work? 1153 00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:15,719 Speaker 2: Souse? 1154 00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,000 Speaker 7: I think athletically it'd be great to have Levin next 1155 00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:19,759 Speaker 7: to someone like Bill. He can get inside still, I 1156 00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:21,800 Speaker 7: can throw him those oops, he can drive, he can cut, 1157 00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:24,040 Speaker 7: and you've got to defend you know, you got to 1158 00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:24,560 Speaker 7: defend him. 1159 00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:25,200 Speaker 5: On the perimeter too. 1160 00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,520 Speaker 7: So it's an interesting, intriguing match up there. And of course, 1161 00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:32,640 Speaker 7: as Trey mentioned yesterday, Billy Donovan was Beale's coach in Florida, 1162 00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,520 Speaker 7: so you know it'd be it'd be interesting. I don't 1163 00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,520 Speaker 7: think it's going to happen, though, Unfortunately, I just don't 1164 00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:38,840 Speaker 7: think so. 1165 00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,239 Speaker 5: I think the Wizards can maybe do better than than 1166 00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:44,360 Speaker 5: Anno Porter if they want to in the player category. 1167 00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,359 Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, throw a boatload of picks at you. Maybe, 1168 00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,560 Speaker 5: like I said, maybe they just want that instead. But uh, 1169 00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,279 Speaker 5: I think this one's unlikely. Like you said too, Trey, 1170 00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,120 Speaker 5: I think it was yesterday man Bill and Levigne. They 1171 00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:56,920 Speaker 5: would score a lot of points, but they would be 1172 00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,440 Speaker 5: given a whole lot back on the other end. 1173 00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:01,680 Speaker 6: That's true. But I mean, I know you saw the 1174 00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:05,680 Speaker 6: tweet last night. Zach Levine is putting up Michael Jordan numbers. 1175 00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,680 Speaker 6: The Bulls are so back that we're getting photoshops of 1176 00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:12,280 Speaker 6: Zach Lavine and Michael Jordan giving each other a fist pound. 1177 00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,759 Speaker 6: Are you kidding me, you butt Bradley Beal next to 1178 00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:19,040 Speaker 6: the next Michael Jordan. That's a guaranteed championship team right there. 1179 00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,160 Speaker 6: But being serious, I would trade any of the Bulls 1180 00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,880 Speaker 6: young guys except for Patrick Williams and a Bradley Beal trade. 1181 00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,800 Speaker 6: I think it's time. You know, we talked about it yesterday, 1182 00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,000 Speaker 6: how they are kind of deep into this rebuild even 1183 00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,760 Speaker 6: though it feels like it's just starting this season. Hobe 1184 00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:33,800 Speaker 6: White you know, I've got high hopes for him. I 1185 00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:35,200 Speaker 6: think he can still be a six Man of the 1186 00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,520 Speaker 6: Year sometime in this league. Lee picked him this season 1187 00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,080 Speaker 6: despite the fact that he's starting, But he has a 1188 00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,520 Speaker 6: future in this league. He's a talented young player. Lowry 1189 00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:45,080 Speaker 6: market in. We've seen Hants had a few flashes of 1190 00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,560 Speaker 6: big games when del Carter Junior hasn't been able to 1191 00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,279 Speaker 6: stay on the court necessarily. But I would trade any 1192 00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,800 Speaker 6: of those three guys, plus Otto Porter plus some picks 1193 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,000 Speaker 6: for Bradley Beal. And I'm not even the hugest Beal fan. 1194 00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:56,800 Speaker 6: I'm just ready for the Bulls to take the next step. 1195 00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:00,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, Lowry, Markton feels like such a Wizards player to 1196 00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,360 Speaker 5: me too, Like I can actually just sort of picture 1197 00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,000 Speaker 5: them in a in a Wizard's jersey. 1198 00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:05,600 Speaker 6: I don't know if that's Oh no, you're thinking of 1199 00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:09,279 Speaker 6: Damas Burton's well yeah, Jesus, No, no, no, no, you're 1200 00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:13,040 Speaker 6: thinking of Wagner, keep going, keep going. No no, no, 1201 00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:14,440 Speaker 6: you're thinking of Andre's patition. 1202 00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,120 Speaker 5: Nice pol very nice poul. Yeah. Maybe I am just 1203 00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,799 Speaker 5: melding them all together and a lot remarketing all right, 1204 00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:24,920 Speaker 5: good stuff, Leally. I mean you sort of mailed that 1205 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,200 Speaker 5: one in. But are you going to continue tomorrow? Can 1206 00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:28,080 Speaker 5: we put your head to it? 1207 00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,400 Speaker 6: Row Raptors trade. 1208 00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,080 Speaker 7: Yeah we did that, Yes, yes we got Don't tell. 1209 00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:37,799 Speaker 5: Me the team. Don't tell me the team. Just just 1210 00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:39,680 Speaker 5: come up with something. Trade into the G League for 1211 00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:41,520 Speaker 5: all I care, right, I just want you to keep 1212 00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,640 Speaker 5: pissing off people. Okay, let's take one more break to 1213 00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:48,640 Speaker 5: hear from our sponsors. All right, Lely, let's get to 1214 00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:57,399 Speaker 5: tweet of the night tweet out the night. Wow, got 1215 00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,279 Speaker 5: a good idea what this is? Lee. Soon as I 1216 00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,160 Speaker 5: saw it last night and I knew you had tweeted 1217 00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,359 Speaker 5: the night duties, I was like, oh, that's where else 1218 00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:03,719 Speaker 5: is going. 1219 00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,319 Speaker 7: Well, I've got I've got two tweets actually too, And 1220 00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:12,439 Speaker 7: the first one is the postgame celebration here from when 1221 00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,080 Speaker 7: Freddie van Vliet walked in after the fifty four and 1222 00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,759 Speaker 7: the team just collapses on him there, just showering him 1223 00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,799 Speaker 7: with water and all sorts of stuff. And you know, 1224 00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:22,799 Speaker 7: I mean, that's great, isn't it. That's what you want 1225 00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:24,440 Speaker 7: to do. You want to have one of those celebrations 1226 00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:26,840 Speaker 7: in your career at some point. Good to see a 1227 00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:29,320 Speaker 7: couple of masks being worn but not a lot anyway. 1228 00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:33,960 Speaker 7: So that was the Raptor's postgame locker room. And then 1229 00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:37,720 Speaker 7: Demata Rosen, who did hold the Raptors record with fifty 1230 00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,640 Speaker 7: two points. He tweeted this one out there last night. 1231 00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:44,080 Speaker 7: Congrats to my brother Freddie V Kyle old ass couldn't 1232 00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:44,399 Speaker 7: do it. 1233 00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,319 Speaker 5: Glad you did, Champ. I've been telling you so. 1234 00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,880 Speaker 7: Davar taking some credit there too for that that fifty 1235 00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:52,000 Speaker 7: four point night there for free. 1236 00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:53,680 Speaker 5: I've been telling you you can get fifty four. Go 1237 00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:54,560 Speaker 5: out there and do it. 1238 00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:56,960 Speaker 7: And also it's a little dig at his old buddy there, 1239 00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,760 Speaker 7: Kyle Lowry. So great night on Twitter for the Raptors. 1240 00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:03,280 Speaker 5: Good stuff. That's an easy one, but an obvious great one. 1241 00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:06,880 Speaker 5: Good good stuff. Okay, pick them results. Clippers nets was 1242 00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:10,520 Speaker 5: our game. I swerved. Swerve's working so far in February. 1243 00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,960 Speaker 5: We had task swerving on the first night. He got 1244 00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:14,640 Speaker 5: the victory, and I swerved last night. You guys all 1245 00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,920 Speaker 5: took the clippers made sense. It was close, but the 1246 00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,239 Speaker 5: nets covered. Who is getting a little dicey there, but 1247 00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,520 Speaker 5: they covered right at the end. So I got the victory. 1248 00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:25,040 Speaker 5: I'm one and one test lost last night, so he's 1249 00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:26,600 Speaker 5: now one on one and you guys have started zero 1250 00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,120 Speaker 5: to two, so you're oh, for so far early in February. 1251 00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:32,440 Speaker 5: We got ten games on tonight. There's an ESPN doubleheader. 1252 00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:36,480 Speaker 5: But our game, oh, it's the Who's More Back Bowl? 1253 00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:37,080 Speaker 4: Too? 1254 00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,719 Speaker 5: Yes we are. We're running it back and the Knicks 1255 00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:44,880 Speaker 5: versus the Bulls and uh, Trey Kirby's Chicago Bulls are 1256 00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:46,879 Speaker 5: favored by three and a half, So let's just start 1257 00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:50,040 Speaker 5: with Trey. Bulls by three and a half? Is an 1258 00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:50,920 Speaker 5: easy pick for you? 1259 00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:51,279 Speaker 6: Or are you? 1260 00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,160 Speaker 5: Are you swerving and going with the Knicks. 1261 00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:56,240 Speaker 6: The swerve sounds tantalizing, Skeets. 1262 00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,560 Speaker 5: That's kind of a big line for the Bullies. 1263 00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:00,640 Speaker 6: But there's no way I'm picking up against them in 1264 00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:04,000 Speaker 6: the Whose Most Back Ball? Part two? I gotta go 1265 00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:05,799 Speaker 6: with the Bulls if I end up losing this month 1266 00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:07,400 Speaker 6: because I picked the balls every time they're in the 1267 00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:11,400 Speaker 6: pick and payoff. That's called loyalty, that's called dedication and positivity. 1268 00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:14,480 Speaker 6: I'm fine with it. Bulls win, Balls win by. 1269 00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,120 Speaker 5: Twenty Okay, Bulls win, I'll blowout win. Okay, they just 1270 00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,279 Speaker 5: got to win by four or more. Ley, are you 1271 00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,000 Speaker 5: taking the next to cover? You got the Bulls. 1272 00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:24,680 Speaker 7: It's the Bulls closed the game out so impressively the 1273 00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:26,440 Speaker 7: other night against the Knicks. I think they can do 1274 00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,319 Speaker 7: it again. I'm surprised it's only three and a half. 1275 00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:30,239 Speaker 7: I thought it might have been a touch higher. I 1276 00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:33,080 Speaker 7: thought they might have even just got one more point there. 1277 00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:37,160 Speaker 7: But yeah, I'm kicking myself this morning because I had 1278 00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:38,920 Speaker 7: a rule that I was like, I'm not picking against 1279 00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:40,880 Speaker 7: Kevin Durant at all in the pick and payoff, and 1280 00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,799 Speaker 7: I did last night and it cost me. So I'm 1281 00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:45,360 Speaker 7: taking the Bulls too. At three and a half. I 1282 00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:46,799 Speaker 7: think they've got four points in them. 1283 00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:49,799 Speaker 5: Okay, well, now I just gotta know who Tass is 1284 00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:51,840 Speaker 5: picking before I make my pick, because I might have 1285 00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:53,719 Speaker 5: to continue to swarch. So let's find know who Tass 1286 00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:54,359 Speaker 5: has in this game. 1287 00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:57,720 Speaker 6: We're getting a zach Lavine show tonight, and the Knicks 1288 00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,440 Speaker 6: don't have the offense to match. Give me the Bolls. 1289 00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:07,600 Speaker 5: Oh call me Jasworm, I'll be swarm again. Why not? 1290 00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:10,680 Speaker 5: Why not? Look, the Bulls can still win the game, 1291 00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,160 Speaker 5: Nicks can cover. It can be a close one. So 1292 00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,359 Speaker 5: I'll take New York. Let's see if we can make 1293 00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:17,600 Speaker 5: it three in a row with the one lone guy 1294 00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,000 Speaker 5: whoever he's picking, getting the victory. I got them the 1295 00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:21,399 Speaker 5: only one with the next. Everybody else has the bulls 1296 00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:23,319 Speaker 5: twin by four. All right, let's call it there, because 1297 00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:25,759 Speaker 5: we do have a second show coming up. I mean really, 1298 00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:27,720 Speaker 5: this is our third show of the day. We got tasses. 1299 00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:29,520 Speaker 5: What you need to know? Go check that out. It's 1300 00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:31,600 Speaker 5: up on YouTube, It's in your podcast feed. We had 1301 00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:33,640 Speaker 5: this one and then Beach Step and coming at three 1302 00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:36,120 Speaker 5: pm Eastern live on YouTube. 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