Speaker 1: Mmmm, what up, Bro, We're back all the smoke season four.
Speaker 1: My brother Matt when atl are doing our thing, Man,
Speaker 1: having a wonderful day. Um, I've been out here a while, Matt.
Speaker 1: I've been in Ah for a minute, and I got
Speaker 1: to extended family. You know, I got a lot of
Speaker 1: people that I got that. I'm not just saying that
Speaker 1: I didn't ran across like I just spent Thanksgiving with
Speaker 1: these motherfuckers. You know what I'm saying. Man, many the uncles. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we didn't get it on. Like that's that's my real brothers.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, keep off. I said get
Speaker 1: it on. I said get it on. I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: do the family player. I said get it on. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm I just said get it on. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. That's what we do. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Even in times, you know, when I
Speaker 1: when I need them, they really come through. So this
Speaker 1: is my real family. And it's only right that I
Speaker 1: have my nephew on the show because I can call
Speaker 1: him my nephew because I'm real cool with it. Pops
Speaker 1: in his uncle. So it's only right that we have
Speaker 1: rich Homie in the building. Welcome time for right. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, overly do you know what over
Speaker 1: do though? Man? Big fan of you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: A big fan of y'all man from sport to the podcast.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying this, Doe dope. Appreciate you
Speaker 1: being hire man. Happen to me? Man, Yeah, go ahead?
Speaker 1: What's new? You got a new project coming off? Yes,
Speaker 1: what's new? Just getting back in that space man, standing
Speaker 1: in that space then, you know, free spirited, free minded,
Speaker 1: glad you back to hear you back when you really
Speaker 1: ain't If you've been around here, you know you ain't left.
Speaker 1: I would say, just being all the way indie, I
Speaker 1: mean all the way end. You got a new approach.
Speaker 1: Kind of feel like a new artist. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I want to kind of rebuild some relationships. Um,
Speaker 1: come on, just footing the game man, not looking at
Speaker 1: my past and just looking at my forward. Man, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Continue to make history man, one
Speaker 1: day time man, that's all. Man. Tell us how rich
Speaker 1: Homie entertainment came together? Rich Homie Entertainment came together might
Speaker 1: have been like, uh ten years ago. I think it
Speaker 1: was from my birthday of Christmas. My dad is like,
Speaker 1: you know, everybody don't get you something. I want to
Speaker 1: do something you can have forever. He end up saying
Speaker 1: the name. I never forget. I don't remember if it
Speaker 1: was birthday or Christmas, but I remember when he did, like,
Speaker 1: I didn't really take it serious until we just went
Speaker 1: indie like that. We can't just sign our self type
Speaker 1: shn't know what you had when he first did it.
Speaker 1: He don't really make senseless move. Yeah, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Just like money coming in fast, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: really study it, you know what I'm saying, But you
Speaker 1: know it benefited ten years later, you know what I
Speaker 1: mean in a big way, tremendous way and dependent way.
Speaker 1: I mean, we get paid first. I feel like that's
Speaker 1: most importantly, having creative control, like that's important. But at
Speaker 1: the same time, like I don't want to shine, like
Speaker 1: no new artist or that who made a deal might
Speaker 1: be best for them, you know what I'm saying, It
Speaker 1: just wasn't best for me and this part of my career,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I don't have one. So
Speaker 1: I like being Atlanta hip hop I've been. This is
Speaker 1: two thousand and three Atlanta hip hop. You know, to
Speaker 1: a lot of people may seem like, man, they support
Speaker 1: each other, they love each other, and which is true
Speaker 1: because for the most part, board it is. But Atlanta's
Speaker 1: really taking the hit and with the hip hop space,
Speaker 1: which you know what I'm saying with with with with
Speaker 1: losing takeoff, yeah, and uh, you know, with all the
Speaker 1: stuff that's going on with different rappers. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying in there not the courthouse? What so what's
Speaker 1: your take on the on the Atlanta look up hip hop?
Speaker 1: Right now? You just gotta be careful what you say.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Everybody listening, so be mindful
Speaker 1: of what you put out. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I said, that's the most important part. It starts in
Speaker 1: the studio. It starts with influence around us, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Not a lot of yes men. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like you gotta have some standout guys,
Speaker 1: you know, a circle who can tell you know and
Speaker 1: you're able to accept that note. You know, I hold
Speaker 1: your accountable for sure. You know what I'm saying. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's in a bad state of mind. Oh man, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Free all the guys locked up.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, alright, to the ones we lost.
Speaker 1: If even like when I was separating me from some
Speaker 1: people in my life, at the time, I didn't understand,
Speaker 1: You'll never know you through the storm while you're fighting
Speaker 1: the storm, if you're just fighting survive. If so, now
Speaker 1: just looking at the life. You know, God don't make mistakes.
Speaker 1: I mean at first I didn't get it, but now
Speaker 1: I don me you know, I mean, I'm just glad
Speaker 1: he's separating me from some certain people in my life. Man,
Speaker 1: and get me away from certain you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: because now I've been I'm saying situations, if not worse,
Speaker 1: I mean, I know me right if kind of normal?
Speaker 1: Try to guy too. So I know you can't speak
Speaker 1: too much on the situation of why I said, but
Speaker 1: I know your foundation with your pops and the people
Speaker 1: around you as we just talked about. Um, how does
Speaker 1: it feel to be able to say that you're having longevity?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You were able to escape
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff that others are gone through. Man.
Speaker 1: The biggest word I can use probably just blessed, um,
Speaker 1: blessed man tremendously feel me but it comes. Like I
Speaker 1: always said, come around your circle. Though, Man, days I
Speaker 1: don't want to do it. My Circoleholm accountable, like you
Speaker 1: signed up for this, we know would come with this.
Speaker 1: If then you gotta think, like, Man, my kids getting older,
Speaker 1: So I care about the message I'm giving out, Like
Speaker 1: the music ain't gonna sound like some type of way.
Speaker 1: And today I'm thirty three now, so I look at
Speaker 1: things different, you know what I'm saying, Like my oldest
Speaker 1: son being fifteen, my youngest being two. It's a big
Speaker 1: age differential, but the missage the same. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, They out of trouble, feel man, like the
Speaker 1: kids are the future. Man, the kids are the future.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, I'm mindful of what I say. I'm
Speaker 1: mindful of what they see. No one they're able to
Speaker 1: age to just be able to Google me. I care
Speaker 1: about that. I care will pop up and if I
Speaker 1: can control the narts or let me do it in
Speaker 1: the right way. Facts upcoming artists, You've been in this
Speaker 1: in the game for a minute with a lot of success.
Speaker 1: If a young artist is coming in the game, that
Speaker 1: bump into you right now walking out this building. Hey, Corn,
Speaker 1: give me some game right quick? What would you tell
Speaker 1: him first? I will observe him before I give him
Speaker 1: the game. See what this circle look like? You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Just look at it. Circles. You are
Speaker 1: reflecting on your circle backs. I'm gonna look at it.
Speaker 1: Circle that's gonna be depending on the answer I give them.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, your circle look thorough, silid. Just get on
Speaker 1: some gang like man, stay around some solid ones who
Speaker 1: wanted more than you want, you know what I'm saying. Like,
Speaker 1: even with being an artist, you're just the forefront. But
Speaker 1: you got some people who are going hard every day
Speaker 1: that people don't see. And I mean those are people
Speaker 1: who matter to me, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: it's just like, get around people who believe me more
Speaker 1: than you believe me yourself, because I promise you it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a whole lot of days you don't want
Speaker 1: to do it. And that's when your team come in
Speaker 1: to help. They push you and remind you and remind you.
Speaker 1: If it's just that really for that reminder and to
Speaker 1: keep pushing you know, I mean, just tell them to
Speaker 1: stay sucker free, stay sucker free, and stay true to yourself.
Speaker 1: I think that's the biggest part. Stay true to self. God,
Speaker 1: say true to self. Talk about your upbringing out here,
Speaker 1: I'm up bringing out of that Linel, I would say basically,
Speaker 1: probably like any other kid growing up or you know,
Speaker 1: we had had like the best of both worlds, Like
Speaker 1: my dad always been a hustler. Mom's did what she
Speaker 1: could to make it happen. So like shit, I depended
Speaker 1: on family, like my little brothers, my little sister. That's
Speaker 1: all we knew. UM played sports, uh from four to fourteen.
Speaker 1: So I got to high school, I started smoking. Once
Speaker 1: I started smoking, I wouldn't focused no more. But I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that. I felt like guys started, you know,
Speaker 1: leading me toward my real passion, which was music, because
Speaker 1: it's something I always loved. Like you hoop, football, football, Well,
Speaker 1: I played all three sports growing up. He was nice baseball,
Speaker 1: baseball play center field of second base, Okay, lead I
Speaker 1: got okay, Yes, he was nice. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: But like I said, you know, I started growing up
Speaker 1: and I, like guy, had a wesh on and I
Speaker 1: probably got my first carryoke man probably eight or nine.
Speaker 1: But sports was the big thing then. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying you're seeing King Griffid and Sounders like these
Speaker 1: are my inspirations growing up, Barry Buns. It's like a right.
Speaker 1: As I'm getting older, I'm just realized, like, damn corn,
Speaker 1: you do play baseball like in Sami Social but Andrew Jones,
Speaker 1: I realized, like these votes ain't war I'm from like
Speaker 1: I think they Dominican, So it's like different. I'm just
Speaker 1: really like looking at the percentages like like, ain't a
Speaker 1: lot of bus in baseball, just really like I'm doing it.
Speaker 1: I'm doing it like I'm doing the math, like yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know it's gonna work. And it sound like
Speaker 1: ten grade and I'm grade. It's always it's quickly music,
Speaker 1: Like that's what I look like. I quit the scene
Speaker 1: to grade. Yeah, I quit nine coach. But when they
Speaker 1: had the football coach as to head baseball coach, so
Speaker 1: I felt like them too different, Like you can't come
Speaker 1: on here screaming you gotta come on here with composure. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta come on here with a composure like you
Speaker 1: out here, like you want to come on man. So
Speaker 1: they just took a look about the game of me.
Speaker 1: I just put my focus someone else and that was
Speaker 1: with music. Man. That's when it became full time. I
Speaker 1: would say public became full time man about twenty two,
Speaker 1: twenty two, but I ain't really had no choice. It's
Speaker 1: process of elimination. Then it was always just baseball and music.
Speaker 1: And when I love not that I kind of tend
Speaker 1: to give up, you know what I'm saying. So like
Speaker 1: the love one that was baseball, and it was dealt
Speaker 1: with the music because I hadn't really been through that,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I was still going through
Speaker 1: adversity being a twenty two yold. I hadn't really been
Speaker 1: through nothing, nothing like that. But I knew I loved music,
Speaker 1: so I just want to stay in studio, stand in
Speaker 1: the studio with so much musical talent from this area.
Speaker 1: Who were some of your earlier influences. It started off
Speaker 1: with like Jeezy, Gucci Man, especially me going to Matt
Speaker 1: and there like. That's when I really started listening to
Speaker 1: music with my own ear um t I of course
Speaker 1: a little boosey Um. I liked it some up North forep.
Speaker 1: I like the Fabulies, I like the cam them, the swag.
Speaker 1: So it was like a it wasn't just one set
Speaker 1: tone of music. I was just a fan of great
Speaker 1: music ship here. I like Hilo Ali Inn that was
Speaker 1: like some old nineties bounce music Like that was dope
Speaker 1: to me. I felt like that's always been sound in Alna,
Speaker 1: like a if you go back to Kid Ali, like
Speaker 1: a humanize and up tempo beat. I felt like, you know,
Speaker 1: like skating music. That's what it was like. Jermaine Duprix
Speaker 1: like least own Man, a lot of influence, big influence
Speaker 1: and being here from a level, how was the process
Speaker 1: getting the name out? The process is getting the name
Speaker 1: out wasn't really hard because we were distributed through Venish,
Speaker 1: so with a distribution label made things a lot easier.
Speaker 1: And with them being like new partners, it was something
Speaker 1: different from me or something new and it was a
Speaker 1: part of the swort we hadn't saw, so we willing
Speaker 1: to go in were given out all like we always
Speaker 1: do in this new situation and still reaching the mask
Speaker 1: by having like owning everything. I think that's what it
Speaker 1: was about ownership in this part of my life. I
Speaker 1: was big on ownership. Man who wouldn't want to like
Speaker 1: I said eleven twelve years in so it's like I
Speaker 1: think different, like I'm not the up and coming artist
Speaker 1: No More that was on the double a Sale Freshman cover.
Speaker 1: I think different. I see it different. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: even be in the same club that I was in
Speaker 1: ten years ago, can't you know? I mean about evolved
Speaker 1: in self, self evaluation and Baldo at all time. You
Speaker 1: just spoke to the freshman cover who was on that
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen Freshman Class cover with you let's see it
Speaker 1: every day too. I think you had Kevin Gates on there, Uh,
Speaker 1: Dirt August, I've seen him, Yeah, I remember, yeah, I
Speaker 1: remember that. It was he was your favorite rapper on Yeah,
Speaker 1: Todd Dollars sign was on there, Todd Dollars sign was
Speaker 1: on there. They had Chance to rapper was on there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was Yeah. That was crazy and I like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was dope. That was dope. And being from Atlanta, man,
Speaker 1: I probably hadn't heard of the Freshman Yeah, probably like
Speaker 1: Freshman Class like six months before that in Atlanta's cards
Speaker 1: as like being our own bubble that's big in New
Speaker 1: York and stuff. But that wasn't like it didn't matter,
Speaker 1: So it was more like a political move or like
Speaker 1: on the music side, like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: so it was big. I can't at like it went big, man.
Speaker 1: I was just so in the days then like a
Speaker 1: lot of this stuff be a blur, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So ya like I just wanted to be
Speaker 1: high and enjoy it, but it was going out so fast,
Speaker 1: so like now just be trying to like enjoy the
Speaker 1: moment and man, and I appreciate it because you know
Speaker 1: what I'm like, you don't get these opportunities every day.
Speaker 1: It was going it was going too crazy with some
Speaker 1: type of way drop though, it was going crazy site,
Speaker 1: it was crazy around that time. It was going crazy
Speaker 1: that having that success had to rip, Like how was
Speaker 1: that experiencing all that? Because because I was out here
Speaker 1: with some type of way drop, Yeah, it was game changing, man,
Speaker 1: And like on the back end, like you missed my mind.
Speaker 1: You feel me like us at the time, like I
Speaker 1: hadn't saw like no real chick, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I was working, I knew what it was going, I
Speaker 1: knew my potential, I knew my reach. But with some
Speaker 1: type of weight game, it's just almost like it hit
Speaker 1: a fast forward but fast like who might have went
Speaker 1: from like five something albums like a forty So we're
Speaker 1: doing this four times a week. Yeah, hold on them,
Speaker 1: like I ain't even had a time to spend the month,
Speaker 1: the earth, the money I got Friday at a man,
Speaker 1: We're here again Sunday, and if not more so, like
Speaker 1: the money start against him. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I can't lie. I was big hided, like I was unfocused.
Speaker 1: Like it went about the bars or the creativity. No
Speaker 1: more us about how fresh we can get. Who can
Speaker 1: spend the most money to me? You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Who were in the baddest girl? Or you know, I
Speaker 1: just I wasn't. I wasn't focus at all, Like I
Speaker 1: lost like I lost it. I was it was a mirage.
Speaker 1: Twenty fifteen, you baby thug came up with rich gang,
Speaker 1: had a huge smash shit and I'm still funny before
Speaker 1: you leave. That was my twins favorite song. Like that
Speaker 1: was the first song I let them cuss off so
Speaker 1: they got to sing the whole song and I got
Speaker 1: a video on Instagram My post the way back there,
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna find it. But uh in sixth success
Speaker 1: with that? What happened after that? Egos? Like I say,
Speaker 1: the money, it's like it's after some type of way.
Speaker 1: So I know I'm feeling myself first, first and foremost.
Speaker 1: You gotta think like the first time I meet Bird
Speaker 1: in Miami, I had just failed and bust my face
Speaker 1: going to walk through video. Um boy, I thought it
Speaker 1: might again like a sixty new weekend, so like I
Speaker 1: still got stitches in my face. It's the first time
Speaker 1: everybody ever put makeup on coming off in the midsty site.
Speaker 1: It's a sixty boy. Think I go up in a
Speaker 1: fifteen minute? Yeah, come on, So Bird come out to
Speaker 1: the show. So after the show, Bird, I come out
Speaker 1: to the studio. We'll go back to the studio. Hits factory,
Speaker 1: Factory done. Hit the space bar first. Ang he played
Speaker 1: Lifestyle first, first song. He played mental Lifestyle. But you
Speaker 1: gotta thank me and already been working prior. I ain't.
Speaker 1: I don't even know thought. I don't even know the hoops,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Yeah, yeah, playing, I'm like
Speaker 1: this out of here. I just remember like the first
Speaker 1: time I heard like, yeah, it's like a different sound.
Speaker 1: Bird was just so amp, Like I don't I hadn't
Speaker 1: never seen an old man out that. It's so amp.
Speaker 1: It brought the youth back out of it brought the
Speaker 1: youth back out. I saw bird like side forty five
Speaker 1: days straight after that, after that ego and that money man.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, the song like, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: like that song has to set spash as well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's like now we're getting moment on top of
Speaker 1: molding that whole album though crazy, this is even a
Speaker 1: question of your pops. Y'all have to know that ship
Speaker 1: was special. Man, them two together, that's some special ship. Man.
Speaker 1: It didn't work, but that's some special ship, bro. But
Speaker 1: it did. Though you can't say it that I mean
Speaker 1: it wor yeah, we just didn't get more. Yeah, for sure,
Speaker 1: let me say that because it damn it worked. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm I'm hope I wake up on morning
Speaker 1: and ship thix just to hear that sound, because that
Speaker 1: sound is legendary. It can't nobody duplicate what y'all had, bro,
Speaker 1: It's a lot of signs been duplicated right now. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying that that album, the Bridge Game album.
Speaker 1: Never I'm doing like collaborative tapes. Then when you look
Speaker 1: at it, you know what I'm saying. So I'd just
Speaker 1: be even looking at it from like a just a
Speaker 1: cultural fit, just like you just see a lot of
Speaker 1: collaborative tapes going on. Now, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I mean, bro, it was always solo artist, but we
Speaker 1: can't got to make the music strong, magical and it
Speaker 1: was a feeling more than it was than it was
Speaker 1: a sign. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, feeling right.
Speaker 1: How was life on the road and what's what's some
Speaker 1: of your favorite cities to perform, man, because I know
Speaker 1: you even hit everyone and man, I love the role man,
Speaker 1: but I love home too. Somebody back ends, back end
Speaker 1: know you're older me the money if I'm just like
Speaker 1: to go. I love Houston, Yeah, I love I love
Speaker 1: Houston man. Some about the girls in the food everything
Speaker 1: big and usting too. Yeah everything. I love Houston. I
Speaker 1: love Dallas. Um, I don't care we're at in Florida.
Speaker 1: I wanna be in Florida, man, once a month. Uh.
Speaker 1: I like the Carolinas. I like North Carolina. I don't
Speaker 1: really like LA and none against La. It's a time differential.
Speaker 1: I got from the A like, man, I'm gonna I
Speaker 1: get over them falling to sleep at six o'clock and
Speaker 1: I'm waking up at four in the morning by myself
Speaker 1: New York. I just started like in New York a
Speaker 1: little bit more. I'm adjusting to the way they moved
Speaker 1: a little New York, specially like for the Drup girls.
Speaker 1: I mean, but the food good and I like the
Speaker 1: Drup you know what I'm saying, Uh, that's probably about it.
Speaker 1: If I'm gonna spend my inn way out like esterday's Yeah,
Speaker 1: Tesses on Florida, I saw, I see you ain't time
Speaker 1: at Yeah, I ain't gonna lie like probably one of
Speaker 1: my biggest markets. I just like, it's the people though.
Speaker 1: It's the people. It's definitely the people through its whoever,
Speaker 1: it's it's the people, you know what I mean. It's
Speaker 1: especially when you came down that leak that was stunning
Speaker 1: bound who was over Oh yeah, stunt man can't rule
Speaker 1: it on the mind. Like to this day, I still
Speaker 1: had those relationships, So I think that'd be more important
Speaker 1: than like the you know what I'm saying, the money
Speaker 1: aspect of it. I know I can go down at
Speaker 1: any time and ask these cats forwardever pull up on
Speaker 1: him and just enjoy talk about the memories we started off.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that you started with that'd
Speaker 1: be the important part, man, is creating relationships in different cities.
Speaker 1: Well you go, you know you're good? Yea, that's I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna even shout no shit up. I know I
Speaker 1: ain't good. They feel like home. So with your them
Speaker 1: like that. Two questions, how how is it working with
Speaker 1: London on the Track? And who is your favorite producer
Speaker 1: to work with? Um? My favorite producer to work with.
Speaker 1: I would have to say, like in house producers, any
Speaker 1: producer that's gonna pull up with the pack of post
Speaker 1: emailing it. It's a different vibe, it's a different field. Um,
Speaker 1: London on the Track he cooled to work with when
Speaker 1: he worked when he working with you replying talented, I
Speaker 1: can't take the talent that I'm like dope as hell.
Speaker 1: But it's just like a lot of stuff you do.
Speaker 1: I just don't aglue. I ain't nobody stopped my bag
Speaker 1: or stop me from making no money more. Yeah that
Speaker 1: just no. Man, don't got that much control over me periodigardless.
Speaker 1: Come on, bro, you know what I mean? So as
Speaker 1: a man, I just certain things I can't respect the match.
Speaker 1: But as a producer, yeah, I can't take away his talent.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean him my little cousin is
Speaker 1: he ain't from May till but he've been living in
Speaker 1: for a while now. June June genius. Oh man, that's
Speaker 1: my that's my real little cousin. That's my dog. Man.
Speaker 1: What's so crazy? It's like you bring up June. That's
Speaker 1: probably like that Dre. That's probably the only producer pack
Speaker 1: I've been in like the last two months. We've been
Speaker 1: so crazy. We've been going so crazy. And like I
Speaker 1: met him through Ken ruling them. You know what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it will look at them too. Yeah. Yeah, So that's that.
Speaker 1: I don't even know. Y'all good, That's that's my bass family. Yeah, dog,
Speaker 1: Can you talk to us about your right process? Like
Speaker 1: do you write? Do you punch? What? Um? I definitely punch,
Speaker 1: not real up process. Um, explain what punch your life mind?
Speaker 1: I know what punch is, okay, so punching it is
Speaker 1: basically what I consider punching is. Uh, starts with the
Speaker 1: instrumental selection first, before we can punch anything. It starts
Speaker 1: with the beat selection. The beat selection puts me in
Speaker 1: the move, it sets the tone. I don't know what
Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk about before anything. I don't premeditate it
Speaker 1: or anything. Even if I knew if going to go
Speaker 1: to the studio, I don't want to here. No, I
Speaker 1: don't even run about this to the radio, feeling like
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know what it is, Like
Speaker 1: my mind are always working, like I don't never just
Speaker 1: jot down notes. That'd be the artistry in it for me,
Speaker 1: Like I really treated like a canvas and like start
Speaker 1: from scratch. Yet start from scratch, and it starts with
Speaker 1: the instrumental. That's the instrumental, like quick every time far
Speaker 1: going to booth, I just my first line, Let's see
Speaker 1: what's gonna come up with because I ain't thought about it,
Speaker 1: like I don't know what I think. It just really
Speaker 1: come off em motion. So when I'm plunting, when I
Speaker 1: say plants, it's just I'm saying the first thing that
Speaker 1: comes to my mind that that makes sense, not the
Speaker 1: first thing to come up, the first thing that makes sense.
Speaker 1: It holds a little value, and I feel like I
Speaker 1: probably can scratch it a little bit or play with it.
Speaker 1: Build on it for sure, build on it. Just keep
Speaker 1: going a plank, just like it's a large freestyle yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a big freestyle. Uh, it's a it's an edited
Speaker 1: freestyle that you think about a little bit more. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I just enjoy punching better I did, right though.
Speaker 1: I feel like when I write, I get a lottle
Speaker 1: too in depth. Um, it was a time I felt
Speaker 1: like I was like here rapping like Kendrick and none
Speaker 1: none against They're gonna go in deep yeah yeah, and
Speaker 1: then don't want to hear that sometimes, like with me
Speaker 1: being in the city. Now you got that you gotta
Speaker 1: get straight to the point and keep it moving. So
Speaker 1: I get that out of punching. I love it though.
Speaker 1: The process is beautiful, Like the process is beautiful, and
Speaker 1: I haven't got bored with it and you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, or tire, so I love it still. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's and I have done it forward, desking harder ship
Speaker 1: to do man punch, Yeah, because you gotta make it
Speaker 1: make sense while you're freestyle. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You got you gotta know when to stop, and so
Speaker 1: you gotta make all that shit makes sense. But so
Speaker 1: by time that sixteen stop, all that shit sound like
Speaker 1: you because it still got to sound like it's one.
Speaker 1: Like if somebody can call you passion out. I feel
Speaker 1: like you might were go in and try to write it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because like that's not the point of the plant. That
Speaker 1: shouldn't better call like you changed right here, the emotional change. No,
Speaker 1: you should never know any change. I'm just I just
Speaker 1: gave you, just gave your cheek cold. Tell me you
Speaker 1: who told you? I have have punched And all of the
Speaker 1: best artists do it. Most of the best artists do it.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Tune all who are your
Speaker 1: favorite artists to collab? But if you have one, it
Speaker 1: will probably have to be Wayne. And this was and
Speaker 1: this was probably my biggest inspiration growing man from the
Speaker 1: Bag of Pants, camouflaged growing my hat when I was little. Uh,
Speaker 1: Wayne just had the impact. I'm probably get my first tattoo.
Speaker 1: So the work on him was different. Once again, we
Speaker 1: had to hit factory the foot of a bird, but
Speaker 1: Wayne got like its own room. So what was like intriguing?
Speaker 1: All that was just so different? We all punched, right,
Speaker 1: Why ain't it different? Though? Like, like he don't just
Speaker 1: go straight on the beat, like he got the skateboard
Speaker 1: around in the booth. Yeah, so he didn't. I just
Speaker 1: like I'm up all like a skateboard he wrapped like
Speaker 1: what does he own? You know what I'm saying. Then
Speaker 1: he go punch. He might do a whole eight ball
Speaker 1: punch like want eight ball like and come at I'm
Speaker 1: like hold on, yeah, we punch, and it just like
Speaker 1: my respect him his work ethic and the way he
Speaker 1: just coming up with like you know, think he wrote
Speaker 1: the the line like the metaphors and a It was
Speaker 1: more like teacher the student, like teacher the student. Man,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I would dangers, he would
Speaker 1: definitely miss me like I'm dead as shout out a
Speaker 1: tune tune go to it like yeah, like then that's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So it was like to be my
Speaker 1: biggest inspiration and like this's ain't no email versee Like
Speaker 1: I'm in the studio with them. So, like I said,
Speaker 1: that's a different respect level. You know a lot of
Speaker 1: people don't want you to see them work, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. They want to just high sound the
Speaker 1: ending part like you know writers no right or no
Speaker 1: writer with Wayne, no Rider, no none of that. M
Speaker 1: you know y'all. Mm, he will goaded. He let me down,
Speaker 1: He let me down. If it may have none bad
Speaker 1: to say that. I'm gonna listen. Uh some names from
Speaker 1: here and just first seem to come to mind, whether
Speaker 1: a good story, someone you uh, someone you want to
Speaker 1: work with, something you have worked with, outcasts out cash
Speaker 1: or put a lane on the map, got an like
Speaker 1: the recognition we need it and it's been up since. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they got something to say, show that. Yeah, big dispiration
Speaker 1: as well. Ti Till h expeditionally Man, t Coolest hell Man.
Speaker 1: You got him on the show tomorrow. Yeah, Till Coolest
Speaker 1: hell Man. Why he's gonna pull the words out. I
Speaker 1: know Jack will stop and ask him too. If you
Speaker 1: don't know. Jack always asked. We talked to people if
Speaker 1: they say words Jack, but after what's that word? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What they mean? I'm gonna ask. Look, I do too,
Speaker 1: like Tip Coolest hell too, like Gin outside of music. Oh,
Speaker 1: I was in New York kicking it. This my first
Speaker 1: time I ever go. I've never been to a comedy show.
Speaker 1: So you know he's like getting into comedy and stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I'm not bad, ain't, but I'm in I'm laughing.
Speaker 1: He was like corn. See they're different from a route show.
Speaker 1: You can't be laughing like that. I'm I'm not knowing.
Speaker 1: I'm just my man, like you know, like thet is
Speaker 1: like you're like, Noah, Corn, this ain't like route. We
Speaker 1: got to get chill. Yeah, I didn't know different shipcause like,
Speaker 1: come on, man, I've never been to like coming. I
Speaker 1: thought you just laugh every time you hear joke because
Speaker 1: I was really I'm dying. I'm a little tipsy too. Yeah. Good.
Speaker 1: She was funny. Yeah, and we're front of a in
Speaker 1: New York. It's extra funny, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So yeah two change to change later back stay high
Speaker 1: statee fly m Yeah, stay high staate fly. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Luda, Chris Luda Uh talented. Uh, Chris
Speaker 1: love Lover. Uh, Chris Love on the radio. Yeah, Chris
Speaker 1: Love Love. I've been at it too long. Yeah see
Speaker 1: Chris Love Love. So I used to be on the radio.
Speaker 1: They had a show like Chris Love lov and Poomed Day.
Speaker 1: I forgot a radio station. It might have been ninety
Speaker 1: seven point five at the time. Don't quote me though,
Speaker 1: but he was big. That's when he was going to
Speaker 1: bannaker Um and he's always you know, I think he's
Speaker 1: from Chicago, but he's from the A. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, lutle, You know what I mean. I cunny,
Speaker 1: I cunny geezy geezy Uh try out um gangster corporate
Speaker 1: m you know, corporate shout out of jeezy Man. You
Speaker 1: got my first look at it while I be on
Speaker 1: Really yeah, Gucci Man, Gucci Man, Um Rocca, Holliday, um
Speaker 1: A and r Um. You're from music, Uh innovate as
Speaker 1: well trout um focused. I get. I know, I know
Speaker 1: you're show because like I said, I know, I'm cool
Speaker 1: with your pops on because them you've been You've just
Speaker 1: been bigg in the real estate space for sure. How
Speaker 1: did you get into that? Um I deal? Get in
Speaker 1: the real estate? Oh? Just taking it buying houses a thought.
Speaker 1: I bought my first house and after I sold it
Speaker 1: for what I sold it for, just started, you know,
Speaker 1: Atlanta start being like the black Hollywood. And Pat's gonna
Speaker 1: stay on me man by making the right decision. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Whenever he pull you know,
Speaker 1: if you pull your coat tail. Like I'm listening, I'm
Speaker 1: two ears open and it's been a space side of love. Man.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Just outside of music, where
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't have to just depend on music,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Of course music still, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Cash some great chicks, but the
Speaker 1: fact like I ain't just gotta depend on this. I
Speaker 1: can get it elsewhere too, and it's fun. Some big
Speaker 1: numbers too. Income Yeah, so yeah, multiple screens of income. Um.
Speaker 1: Really just keep my brain working, man, never complacent. If
Speaker 1: for me and then real estate, man, you don't lightning,
Speaker 1: then you know what I'm not like, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So for my my whole, my frame, I need license
Speaker 1: like you don't like you know, man, say that paper,
Speaker 1: so that paper, say you what's your goals for twenty
Speaker 1: twenty three? Um, twenty twenty three? Uh won't be like
Speaker 1: cellf goals Man, be a better meet, a better uh,
Speaker 1: be a better parent, be a better sign, a better friend,
Speaker 1: a better brother, a better artist, um, a better real
Speaker 1: estate mogulum. You have the things that matter, like every
Speaker 1: day stuff. Man, Like I ain't doing it for the ground.
Speaker 1: I know I'm lit in real life. I ain't don
Speaker 1: that for that, you know. I mean, if anybody is
Speaker 1: specting more from coin on that side, you can't cancel it.
Speaker 1: It's been Yeah, you have a pin tweet. Even when
Speaker 1: a lot of y'all gave up on me, I never
Speaker 1: stopped believing in myself. How do you reflect on that
Speaker 1: to the day, that that gonna hold volumes forever um
Speaker 1: And I don't even, I don't even. I don't remember
Speaker 1: what year it was I tweeted that, but I remember
Speaker 1: like it was yesterday, like one of the vulnerable stages too,
Speaker 1: Like I don't know if I had the drops. I
Speaker 1: ain't one of death is. I just felt some type
Speaker 1: of weight, man, I was in my feelings. But I
Speaker 1: still feel that way to the day. I still feel
Speaker 1: that way to the day, man to the day kind
Speaker 1: of on the end there with guy got for me,
Speaker 1: man for me? Right, I ain't dependent on no man period.
Speaker 1: You can control. If I can't control, I don't need
Speaker 1: to be in there. Yeah yeah, all right, quick hitters.
Speaker 1: First thing to come to mind. Let us not put
Speaker 1: you in the spot right off the red top five
Speaker 1: in Atlanta rappers in your opinion of all time damn yeah,
Speaker 1: he said, damn all time toughing. We're gonna be steep, though,
Speaker 1: I gotta go till no or no particular order, just
Speaker 1: named five that's how you stay safe till out cash
Speaker 1: this one, m jeez and Gucci. That's three. I got
Speaker 1: two more the future. Look, baby, that's a fool five.
Speaker 1: That's a fool five. That's a fool five. I take
Speaker 1: that one. I'll take that one. Funniest thing that happened
Speaker 1: to you recently, the funniest. Yeah, funniest thing Tony. That
Speaker 1: was funny, he said, ripped my car wasn't funny. It was,
Speaker 1: but I laughed at it because they were like, yeah,
Speaker 1: but the car, you know how like it's a hell
Speaker 1: cap of one, so it looked at worse than what
Speaker 1: it was. Yeah, you know, And I told him like
Speaker 1: I was a little tilt of trying to show out
Speaker 1: I hit nobody. I hit the curse. So that was
Speaker 1: definitely funny. Yeah. Yeah, if you saw the car, it
Speaker 1: was definitely thought like trying to peel that. I didn't
Speaker 1: try to peeled out feel out. Yeah, I was gonna
Speaker 1: hit that curR miss on the accents. Yeah you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And the why about the kid off,
Speaker 1: like how hard I hit it? Like I hit it.
Speaker 1: I hit it that Coney pulled out to the hog
Speaker 1: right man, Because I didn't even tell nobody, because I
Speaker 1: know I ain't hit. Nobody want like to hit a run.
Speaker 1: So he probably looked like man who ain't hitting and
Speaker 1: just kept going on. I told like, no, I ain't
Speaker 1: hit a run. I hit myself, made it home, and
Speaker 1: I still made it home. You couldn't even move it, Drake,
Speaker 1: How you even get the car here? Crying? I just
Speaker 1: got in the rave man, I s yeah, I got
Speaker 1: in the rave man. Just one of them sensible like
Speaker 1: I did. I trucked out. Yeah, I tripped. Then I
Speaker 1: had Jake out my girl. Had you got a rep
Speaker 1: for him? For Chris? So I had semi written it in.
Speaker 1: Well it was still well nobody, so like I double ridden,
Speaker 1: feel like I double written and I was like yeah,
Speaker 1: and I go through the shopper some this ain't it
Speaker 1: a little rap kid coming out? She's not gonna appreciate
Speaker 1: it if it ain't that been in the space for
Speaker 1: a minute. Is there someone from the past or present
Speaker 1: you'd like to do a collab with? Yeah? So if
Speaker 1: I had to do a collad more so pass like
Speaker 1: of Grapes, I like parking Biggie. I can have both
Speaker 1: of them on one song out of me big Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I'm a more of a Biggie fan in pop,
Speaker 1: but I love part like spots. I have to like
Speaker 1: differentiate the two pop more if I want to get
Speaker 1: more like Malcolm Mixie more politically, not more politically well
Speaker 1: like no so I want to say something controversially, but
Speaker 1: get my point across Biggie more fly more player with
Speaker 1: saying it. M you know what I'm saying, like, especially
Speaker 1: when it came to roup like the three bars like
Speaker 1: Cadence and it was you could just tell like Bigger
Speaker 1: went on to play with. Yeah, so one show, a
Speaker 1: movie you can watch on repeat, one show or a movie. Yeah, um,
Speaker 1: I don't not no particular show. But I just like
Speaker 1: watching like documentaries. I can watch them all day. Man,
Speaker 1: I don't feel I feel like they real again somethinghell
Speaker 1: and I try to get like an influence from any
Speaker 1: type of documentary I watch, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like any type. I don't like a lot of movie documentaries.
Speaker 1: I like movie movies, like my favorite movie All Time
Speaker 1: to watch Anytime, Temptation or The fire Heartbeats. Don't want
Speaker 1: to warn you. You're like nobody to come and see
Speaker 1: you oldis Come on, man, come on, I come and
Speaker 1: see you oldish. That's like five great, great, five dinner
Speaker 1: guests that are alive. Five dinner guess Okay, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say jay Z, but I probably take the fire a thousand.
Speaker 1: But there's my dinner, my spot. You know, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say jay I want Richard Prior though good one, and
Speaker 1: my man h Andie Murphy nice. Um, I mean that
Speaker 1: is two. So that's two. Uh, Jada Jada Pickett. I
Speaker 1: gotta pick up brain man, mm hmm. Stacy Dash, we
Speaker 1: gotta see what she all see if you could bring
Speaker 1: her back? She gone this cluely Stacy Dash, I'm still
Speaker 1: like he like, I'm going back to the light. When
Speaker 1: I said Jayda, I'm thinking a low down saint. Come
Speaker 1: on now. Yeah, So I gotta say, what what got you?
Speaker 1: Are you at? You feel me? Uh? Nick Cannon mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Bit fan of Nick Nigga's dope and he hustling, Oh man,
Speaker 1: like Nick? So clear? Why man? Why I'm not man?
Speaker 1: They don't call three times a year for show, and
Speaker 1: they're gonna be big like Nick, ain't low bounding them?
Speaker 1: Now what you want? M put up? Who would you
Speaker 1: like to see on our show? But whoever you would
Speaker 1: like to see. You have to help us get them
Speaker 1: on the show. Okay, uh yea, I had the baby.
Speaker 1: Ye na. We need them than we are. We need
Speaker 1: that'll be dope. You gotta make that happen. I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: He will be at a city near you. He just
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