1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Here's in 2 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: the bonus with Doug Gottlieb. 3 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 2: What up Doug Gottlieb Show. In the bonus Fox Sports? 4 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 2: Right now? iHeartRadio app. You know, there's this thing going 5 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 2: on that I don't know. We've gotten so defensive in 6 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 2: the media against the media. Like yesterday I was listening 7 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 2: and I don't know. I like Mary Kay Cabot has 8 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 2: a tendency to ask kind of old school questions, a 9 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 2: little bit leading, a little bit wandering and meandering, but 10 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 2: she's covered the Browns forever. She is well respected there. 11 00:00:56,320 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 2: She asked Shador Sanders about his dad and because you know, 12 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 2: we don't know what the issue of the health issues are, 13 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 2: but he's missed some workouts and he's not around, and 14 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 2: it got leaked out there that he's got some health issues. 15 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 2: Dion's lost some toes as part of some some health 16 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 2: health issues, and it's it's even to the point to 17 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 2: where you can't like Chador is so defensive towards the media. 18 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 2: He can't even just say, like, it's really tough one 19 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 2: working through stuff with my dad. He's he's got to 20 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 2: change the topic to talking about quarterback and not just 21 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 2: talking about his dad. Here's to just take a listen 22 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:39,839 Speaker 2: to this. The answer to the question. 23 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 3: Your dad mentioned on a recent podcast that you know 24 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 3: he's still kind of going through his health challenge. 25 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know what's going on. So I'm here 26 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 4: not to talk about pops in him. I'm here for 27 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 4: the quarterback of the Cleveland Browns. 28 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 2: I just you know, my question was, though. 29 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 3: If you don't mind answering this, do you kind of 30 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 3: have to just like you said me, where your feet are? 31 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 3: And I'm sure that's something that would be worry to 32 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 3: you if you let yourself kind of think about it here. Sorry, 33 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 3: is that something that you're trying to just I'm focused. 34 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 4: I'm focused on learning this playbook and everything I gotta 35 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 4: do to be the most successful quarterback I could be, 36 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 4: and be a best teammate I could be. Outside of that, 37 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 4: I don't really have no thoughts or you know, really 38 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 4: opinions on anything outside this game. 39 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 5: Okay, appreciate it. 40 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 4: Thanks, We good appreciate y'all. 41 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, in the very nicest way possible, he 42 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 2: was incredibly rude and not answering questions at all, Right, 43 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 2: and in this particular case like his dad's were going 44 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 2: to through some health challenges. It's a very normal thing 45 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 2: to ask any young player about any older player about 46 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 2: and just the hey, I don't really know what's going 47 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:55,679 Speaker 2: on there. I'm just here to tell you about a 48 00:02:55,760 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 2: quarterback like why. And I'm not to blame Shadeur. I'll 49 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 2: take some of the blame off of him, but this 50 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 2: is kind of what we do. It's the classic playbook 51 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 2: of blame the media. And I'm sure there's a good 52 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 2: number of people in Dion's camp, probably Dion as well 53 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: and maybe Schador as well, who blame the media for 54 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 2: his slide. Hey, you guys have promoted this when the 55 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 2: reality is right. It's not the media. It's how he acted, 56 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 2: how he carried himself when he was on those visits. 57 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 2: But like, this is what we're doing now. Somebody asks 58 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 2: about your dad and you move on from the topic 59 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 2: just because you're so defensive towards the media. It's it's 60 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 2: really silly and you know or the questions great, no, 61 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 2: but you can take a moment to go, hey, my 62 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 2: dad is the biggest influence of my life, football or 63 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 2: not or otherwise. And yeah, I mean, whatever he's got 64 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 2: going On. You know, he doesn't share a ton with me. 65 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 2: And because I'm so engrossed in trying to become the 66 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 2: star any quarterback of the Browns, I'm not paying a 67 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 2: crazy amount of attention to it. But obviously when I'm 68 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 2: not here and I'm at in my hotel room or 69 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,559 Speaker 2: if he has an apartment or whatever, it's on my mind. 70 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,359 Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm thinking about it. Whatever. But we've just 71 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 2: reduced even the ability for smart people, and shet Door 72 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:23,239 Speaker 2: is not He's a smart dude. We've reduced the ability 73 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 2: for smart people to just answer a question honestly and 74 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 2: in any with any sort of vulnerability. And I think 75 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 2: that's because he's been trained to do that. 76 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 6: Can I start a rumor? 77 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead. 78 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 6: Deon sanders injury was from him using the phone in 79 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 6: the off season to call teams to tell them not 80 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 6: to draft his son. He did it so harshly and 81 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 6: emphatically that two things happened. His son dropped to the 82 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 6: fifth round, and he he injured his like nuck muscles. 83 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 2: That you're going with, That's we're going. That's what we're 84 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 2: going with. 85 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 6: You love that, you don't You don't find any any grounds. 86 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 2: I'm I'm smiling, but I'm I don't know if I'm laughing. 87 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 2: Sam's laughing. I'm smiling. 88 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 6: I'm smiling because I don't know where to go with that. 89 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 2: Either. 90 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 6: You got whiplash from yelling into the phone. 91 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, what if? What if Shador had hemorrhoids 92 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 2: from sitting on his ass for so long waiting to 93 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 2: be drafted? Also pretty part of it that I gotta laughing, 94 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 2: but also Sam laughing on hard. 95 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb 96 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: Show weekday. He's at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on 97 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 98 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 2: Let's get to what the Fox says, and now I'd 99 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 2: say every day at this time, I got lip showing 100 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 2: the bus podcast, we play for you a portion of 101 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,559 Speaker 2: a previous showing Fox Sports Tree or Fox Sports One. 102 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 2: Here is LeVar Arrington and Jonas Knocks talking about the 103 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 2: Miami Dolphins. 104 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 7: This is a very pivotal year for Miami, just for 105 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 7: the simple fact that they've had such high expectations. But again, 106 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,799 Speaker 7: I think it ultimately comes down to, you know, Tua 107 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 7: can talk about culture change and it feels different, and 108 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 7: this and that and the other they haven't been a 109 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 7: bad team, it's just they're not a good team when 110 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 7: Tua goes down. So I think that the biggest question 111 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 7: is ken Tua stay healthy and if he doesn't, do 112 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 7: you have a contingency plan to be good and continue 113 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 7: being good if to it were to go down. 114 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 6: It's just that simple. 115 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 8: The success of the Dolphins all depends on whether or 116 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 8: not two is on the field. When two is on 117 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 8: the field for Miami, they're forty and twenty four. When 118 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 8: he's off the field, they're seven to thirteen. Like, that's 119 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 8: all you need to know. So if they're looking around, well, 120 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 8: you know there's a culture shift, there's a no, there 121 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 8: should be a health shift. If there's a health shift, 122 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 8: and he can stay on the field and he can 123 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 8: stop going head first in trying to pick up extra 124 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 8: yards which don't really matter in the moment. Long term, 125 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 8: if he can do that, then Miami's got a shot. 126 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 8: But Mike McDaniel's future, Chris Greer, there's a lot of 127 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 8: people there in Miami whose future depends on whether or 128 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 8: not to it can stay on the field. 129 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 2: The only problem with the number of what they do 130 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 2: when he's not on the field is I would say 131 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 2: ninety five percent of teams. I mean ninety percent of 132 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 2: teams when they have a starting quarterback and they lose them, 133 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 2: their season is gonna They're gonna stink, especially now with 134 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 2: a disparity between you know, when you have big money quarterbacks. 135 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 2: I'm just, even when healthy, I'm not a huge buyer 136 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 2: into Tua at the top of the food chain. I 137 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 2: think he's good though, in terms of getting the ball 138 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 2: to guys that but it all works because they've had 139 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 2: Waddle and Tyreek Hill. And as Tyreek Hill starts to 140 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 2: kind of be normalized a little bit, he's a little 141 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 2: less effective. They're less dynamic as a team, and Tuoa 142 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 2: is going to have to make more plays and I 143 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 2: don't think he's capable of it. So Miami's also stuck 144 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 2: there there. You know. It's one of those things that 145 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 2: we always thought the Patriots were in a bad division, 146 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 2: but the Patriots made the division bad. Right now, the 147 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 2: Bills are the team in that division. They make that 148 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 2: division bad because Josh Allen is so good. This is 149 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 2: Dan Patrick talking about Tyrese Halburton. 150 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 9: You know, when you've kind of graduated to a certain level, 151 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 9: maybe stardom, when we start to critique you. Tyree's Halliburton 152 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 9: is getting critique now, Whereas during the regular season, nobody 153 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 9: probably said a word about his game outside of Indianapolis. 154 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 9: So he's in the finals and now everybody has an opinion. Now, 155 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 9: all of a sudden, he's gotten to the point where 156 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 9: we go, okay, let's see what you can do. Game 157 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 9: three didn't look good. In games one and two. Hit 158 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 9: a big shot in one, but two, all right, got 159 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 9: to be more aggressive here. There's players that you, all 160 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 9: of a sudden have expectations for, and Tyre's Halliburton has 161 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 9: gotten to that point. There are expectations for him in 162 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,319 Speaker 9: the NBA Finals. I don't know if anybody has had 163 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,839 Speaker 9: a run quite like him in the last twenty five 164 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 9: thirty years when it comes to postseason basketball and elevating 165 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 9: your status. Now, all of a sudden, we're going as 166 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 9: Tyrese Haliburton a top ten player. Nobody would have said 167 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 9: that if you talked about the Pacers in December or January, 168 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 9: Be like, Tyrese Halliburton, what position does he play? Can 169 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 9: he shoot? Where's he from? Now? All of a sudden, 170 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 9: you've graduated. Now it's like, oh, the guy at Iowa State. 171 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 9: All the guy used play for Sacramento. All the guy 172 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 9: who's hitting all the big shots, now, all of a 173 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 9: sudden we treat him differently. You've got to be a star. 174 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with Dan on this one. Like when you're 175 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 2: elevated to that star status, you have to play at 176 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 2: a level of a star. That's our expectations of you. 177 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 2: And the unfortunate thing for tyres Halburton is that his 178 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 2: play at times has been so good it's created a 179 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 2: false arrative of who he is right, a false narrative 180 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 2: of who he is. Here's Colin oh Here's Colin Cowhert 181 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 2: talking about Aaron Rodgers and if it'll work in Pittsburgh 182 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 2: with Mike Tomlin. 183 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 10: Of top older star quarterbacks past their prime when they 184 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 10: have gone to a new environment, there's nine that come 185 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 10: to mind. I'm not talking Andy Dalton or Joe Flacco, 186 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 10: Nick Foles. I'm talking stars like Cam Newton, Aaron Rodgers. 187 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 10: So there's nine that I would in recent history, Tom Brady, 188 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 10: Peyton Manning, Matthew Stafford, Philip Rivers went to Indy, had 189 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 10: a great year, Aaron Rodgers with the Jets, Russell Wilson, 190 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:18,439 Speaker 10: Kirk Cousins, Matt Ryan, and Cam Newton. Again, So how 191 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 10: did it work out for those nine? Well, let's put 192 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 10: them in two camps. One being successful. Brady won a 193 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 10: Super Bowl, Stafford won a Super Bowl, Peyton Manning won 194 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 10: a Super Bowl, and Philip Rivers, I'll argue this all 195 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 10: Day had a great year in Indy. He was eleven 196 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 10: and five ninety seven passer rating. And then you have 197 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 10: the other camp, the less successful camp, and that would 198 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,719 Speaker 10: include obviously Aaron Rodgers with the Jets, and Russell and 199 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 10: Denver and Kirk Cousins in Atlanta, and Matt Ryan with 200 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 10: the Colts and Cam Newton with Belichick in New England. 201 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 10: What's the common threat? What's the truth. The truth is, 202 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 10: if you have a defensive coach, as an old quarterback 203 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 10: past your prime or an inexperienced coach, it's gonna be turbulent, 204 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 10: not gonna be pretty again. 205 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 2: Collins making he's doing the thing that I don't love 206 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,599 Speaker 2: about our business, and I understand, like Jay stew it 207 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 2: is probably the part about our business you wish I 208 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:24,359 Speaker 2: would do more of. Is he's he's talking about absolutes 209 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:28,959 Speaker 2: and that's just not It just doesn't make any sense. 210 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 2: It doesn't make any sense. You know, Dan Quinn is 211 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 2: a defensive coach. He drafted Jaden Daniels. They hired Cliff 212 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 2: Kingsbury as the offensive coordinator and gave Cliff Kingsbury all 213 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 2: the space he needed to develop the kid, and it 214 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 2: worked great. So what are the You can't do absolutes 215 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 2: just because it wasn't working in Chicago. You know, they 216 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 2: had Mark Trustman as the head coach there before. He 217 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 2: was an offense They've they've had offensive coaches that also 218 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 2: didn't work. So again, I just I just don't like absolutes. 219 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 2: I think that's I think that's easy for us to ingest, 220 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 2: but it's not an accurate way to look at it, 221 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 2: not a fair way to look at That's what the 222 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 2: Fox said say. 223 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb 224 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox 225 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 226 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,479 Speaker 2: Let's find out who are What's annoying? Jason Stewart. 227 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,199 Speaker 1: And now it's your annoying. 228 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 2: Jase Do who are what's annoying you? 229 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 6: Hey, Doug, Scotty Scheffler is getting ready for the US Open, 230 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 6: he uh said something interesting yesterday. I think it kind 231 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 6: of speaks to a bigger point. This is what he said. 232 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 11: I think everybody hears from fans whether they have a 233 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,839 Speaker 11: financial benefit or anything in their outcome. That's why I 234 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 11: had to get rid of my venmo because I was 235 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 11: either getting paid by people or people requested me a 236 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 11: bunch of money when I didn't win. 237 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 2: Wasn't a good feeling. 238 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 6: So gamblers going after athletes venmo accounts to make up 239 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 6: for losses that they've had. I think it kind of funny. 240 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 6: It's funny, and then it's then it speaks to a 241 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 6: grander thing, like when you legalize gambling in an age 242 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 6: where where you have access to athletes. Now a social 243 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 6: media has a there are obvious safeguards in place. You're 244 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 6: not going to get to the athlete, but you could 245 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 6: get messages to them. And then you had that story 246 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 6: Bradley Beal, I think it was a couple of seasons 247 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 6: ago talking about how a guy came up to him 248 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 6: and said, you owe me five thousand dollars, motherfucker, or 249 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 6: something like that. Just had general hostility from fans that 250 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 6: we didn't seem to get when the gambling was illegal. 251 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 6: I don't know what this is that means. I don't 252 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 6: know how. You could probably do a whole podcast on 253 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 6: why that is, but I do I do think that 254 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 6: it's going to get worse. The problem is this, what 255 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 6: kind of safeguards could we put in ployees before an 256 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 6: athlete or a coach actually gets injured or worse by 257 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 6: someone who just dropped a bunch of money on them. 258 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 2: Again, I think that the actually the biggest one is 259 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 2: going to be college You know, it's like, at the 260 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 2: end of the day, they're professionals, you know they can, 261 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 2: but but college kids one, they all grew up on 262 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 2: social media, so they're all bigger targets. And gambling has 263 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 2: become such a huge part of all sports, and I 264 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 2: think it's it's really affected the energy at college stadiums 265 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 2: in college arenas. But what safeguards can we put in place? 266 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. We have a tendency 267 00:15:56,640 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 2: to look at things in a very like to be 268 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 2: where and I don't know if you played chess chase too, 269 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 2: but it's like when you're playing chess, you gotta look 270 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 2: at the whole board, and nobody looked at the whole 271 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 2: board when they started legalizing gambling and making it a 272 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 2: bigger thing. What else? Who else annoy you? 273 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 6: Let's see Rory McIlroy, another golfer. This is what he 274 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 6: said about the Oakmont course last Monday. 275 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 12: Felt impossible. You know, I birdied the last two holes 276 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 12: for eighty one, so like it was, I felt pretty good. 277 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 12: Didn't feel like I played that bad. So it's much 278 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 12: more benign right now than it was that. I mean, 279 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 12: they had the pins and dicey locations and greens were 280 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 12: running at fifteen and a half, and you know, it 281 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 12: was it was it was nearly impossible. 282 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 6: So nearly impossible. Remember at the PGA Championship, he just 283 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 6: declined to even talk to the media and got criticized 284 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 6: by the ways of Jack Nickols for join that. I 285 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 6: remember the week after he had won the Masters, he 286 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 6: was like the the toast of the town. I think 287 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 6: that's the cliche, Like everyone just wanted to talk about Rory, 288 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 6: how great it was, amazing sports story, he could do 289 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 6: no wrong. And then since then he's just come off 290 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 6: like a whiny bitch. When he's not talking to the media, 291 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:24,199 Speaker 6: he's criticized because most people have to do that, and 292 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 6: then when he's talking to the media. He's talking, he's 293 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 6: criticizing the course that he's about to play for the 294 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 6: US Open, which just tells me that he's laying the 295 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 6: foundation for why he's not going to do well. 296 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then he was complaining about the driver thing. Whatever. Uh, 297 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 2: I don't know if he's a he's a he's a one. 298 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 2: I wouldn't go as far as a whiny bitch, but 299 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 2: I do think there's a certain there's a certain confidence, 300 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 2: a certain I got it that the best of the 301 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 2: best have and he's kind of missing that. So yeah, 302 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 2: I feel you on it. Who else annoy you? 303 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 6: Have you been tracking this Angel Reese thing? I don't 304 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 6: know if you knew this about her or not, but 305 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 6: she's playing the victim card again. So I don't know 306 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 6: if you know this, but Angel Reese gets a lot 307 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 6: of shit on Why, But she'll tell you she doesn't 308 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 6: pay attention to this stuff on Why, but she gets 309 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 6: a lot of shit. So she wants you to believe 310 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,360 Speaker 6: two things. She wants you to believe she doesn't pay 311 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 6: attention to it, but she also wants to remind you 312 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 6: that she faces a ton of criticism and harassment online. 313 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 6: Don't know how each of those could be true, because 314 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 6: if you're not paying attention to it, you don't know 315 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 6: about it. But I'll let that go. Last night, this 316 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 6: guy got their rasses kicked again. Sam would know more 317 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 6: about this, but they seem to get their rasses kicked 318 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 6: every game. I don't know. Angel Reese was doing a 319 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 6: press conference and just started talking about this very thing 320 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 6: I just laid out. I get a lot of criticism online, 321 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 6: but this is you know, I'm tough once I get 322 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 6: to the jim, once I get to the arena, this 323 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 6: is this is what I pay attention to. And then 324 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 6: her her what's the name of her teammate, Sam uh 325 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 6: ariel Atkins Atkins, Yeah, ariel Atkins. I don't think she'll 326 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 6: be I don't think she'll be confused anytime soon. Is 327 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 6: a great orator. I don't think that her and Winston 328 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 6: Churchill will ever be mentioned in the same sentence. 329 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 2: A Smith. 330 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, Yes, uh ariel Atkins comes to Angel Reese's defense, 331 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 6: the big victim. 332 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 5: This is a twenty three year old kid. Any amount 333 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 5: of crap that she gets on a day to day 334 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 5: and she still shows up. So whatever questions y'all got 335 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 5: like about our team basketball wise, we appreciate it, but 336 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 5: all the other nonsense like is she relevant, Like we're 337 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 5: here to play basketball, and do we do? We having 338 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 5: a hard time right now at the end of the day, 339 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:48,959 Speaker 5: just a twenty three year old kid who handles herself 340 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 5: with grace. Her crown is heavy, So whatever else, like 341 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 5: y'all want to come at her for the way that 342 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 5: she actually she has to build the wall. She has 343 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 5: to have the wall because if she does it, people 344 00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 5: will break her down. Not only just because of the way 345 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 5: she what's because of the way she. 346 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: Cares her stuff. 347 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:05,199 Speaker 5: She doesn't just walk around and act like, oh, I'm not. 348 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 5: She knows who she is and we ain't gonna break 349 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 5: her down. Forday, So whatever other questions j'all got, like, 350 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 5: I'm hoping it is just about basketball, maybe a box 351 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 5: score question. But the kid's crown is heavy, like respect that. 352 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 6: I don't know how many things were funny about that, 353 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 6: but let me focus on the crown is heavy. So 354 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 6: that's an old clichet, you know, the king and the. 355 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 2: Queen heavy as the head there was a crown. 356 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, and when and in what arena? Is she a queen? 357 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 6: Like who has said that she's a queen? Who's made 358 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 6: her a queen. She seems to be like a decent 359 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 6: power forward on a bad w NBA team, Like, what 360 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 6: what's queens about that? Doug? 361 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 2: I'm not really sure. There was just there was just 362 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 2: there was too much going in there, Like she can 363 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 2: speak for herself, she doesn't need you. She it's like 364 00:20:56,840 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 2: she doesn't carry herself as like, what are you talking about? 365 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,360 Speaker 2: I'm good. Yes, the whole thing is annoying. The people 366 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 2: rushing to her defense like she's a victim is annoying 367 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 2: as well. 368 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 6: Twenty three year old kid, kid who is multiple years 369 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 6: in now to making over seven figures doing what she does. 370 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 6: I don't think she's a kid. There's nothing about her 371 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 6: that is a kit. And then she's she's a queen 372 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 6: now too, So I guess a kid queen. 373 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:26,880 Speaker 2: She's a kid and a queen. I got one. That's 374 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 2: annoying me. So Simone Biles is apologizing for what she 375 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 2: tweeted at Riley Gaines and saying, you know, is personal whatever. 376 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 2: So Riley Gaines has received a ton of acclaim because 377 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 2: she's somebody who's called out transgender athletes is not belonging 378 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 2: in women's sports, right, So she made fun of the 379 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 2: I guess Minesota's high school softball champions and the four 380 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 2: four A state champions is a champlain I'm gonna say champlain. 381 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:13,959 Speaker 2: I don't know comments off lol to be expected when 382 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 2: your star players a boy. So Simone Biles says at 383 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 2: Riley Gains, you're truly sick all this campaigning because you 384 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 2: lost a race, straight up loser, straight up sore loser. 385 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 2: You should be uplifting the trans community and perhaps finding 386 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 2: a way to make sports inclusive, or creating a new 387 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 2: avenue where trans feels safe in sports, maybe transgender category 388 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 2: in all sports. But instead you bully them. One thing's 389 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 2: for sure, no one is safe in sports with you around. 390 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 2: So if you actually read what Simone Biles said, she 391 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 2: did not say I believe that women, you know that 392 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 2: trans women should participate in women's sports. What she said 393 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 2: was she went after Riley Gaines because Riley did. Like 394 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 2: remember when Riley lost the race in the NCAA Championships, 395 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 2: she the the trans athlete, finished fifth. She finished sixth, 396 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 2: So at best, Riley Gaines would have finished fifth. And 397 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 2: I tend to I think both of these things can't 398 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 2: be true. Riley Gaines can make some good points and 399 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 2: be a sore loser. But Simone Biles like, I don't 400 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 2: know why you have to apologize. You said how you felt, 401 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 2: and then you support it with the hey, I'm not 402 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 2: even like an all in on. She's just saying, like, hey, 403 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 2: we can there's a way in which we can all 404 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 2: be a better form of happy and a way in 405 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 2: which you can do it. So I'm annoyed that Simone 406 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 2: Biles was told she had to apologize. 407 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 6: I think that there are a couple of things you 408 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 6: left out of those she was She received the most 409 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 6: criticism for the contradiction of saying that that that gains 410 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 6: as sick for for making fun of this transgender competitor 411 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 6: while saying that she looks like a man like she 412 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 6: she made fun of the way she looks, so she 413 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:25,959 Speaker 6: body shamed or whatever you call it. Within this tweet 414 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 6: where she's criticizing someone for being mean to somebody. 415 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,199 Speaker 2: Who did she wait? Where where was that? I'm trying to. 416 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,919 Speaker 6: Think it was either in the initial tweet or her 417 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 6: follow up because she wrote two tweets. 418 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,679 Speaker 2: Believe some of your own size, which would ironically be 419 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 2: a male yes, because because look, she's talking shit okay, 420 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 2: and again I I don't. And and part of this 421 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 2: is this is the Simone Biles thing as well, which 422 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 2: remember I was I was the one who I got 423 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 2: criticized when like she got the twisties. And my point 424 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 2: is not that the that you can't have a mental hurdle. 425 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 2: My point is that the best athletes in the world 426 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 2: find a way to overcome the mental hurdles or they 427 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 2: don't take somebody else's spot on the on the Olympic team. 428 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 2: But I don't mind her talking shit. I just don't. Hey, 429 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 2: I said what I said. And the problem is that 430 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 2: that Simone Biles has just been we've completely de defanged 431 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 2: people to where they can't talk shit. 432 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 6: And the in the apology, which is I don't think 433 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,959 Speaker 6: anyone believes that it was written by Simon, No, it 434 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 6: was some crisis management PR firm. 435 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 2: Right. 436 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 6: They mentioned two words together that everyone's having having a 437 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 6: ball with her. She says, I've always believed in competitive 438 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 6: equity and inclusivity are both essential in sports. No they're not. 439 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:57,679 Speaker 6: And if anything is not equitable, it's competition. That's the 440 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 6: problem here, that that there is no competitive equity. That's 441 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 6: a contradiction in terms inclusivity to a certain point. I've 442 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 6: said this many times. I am a father of someone 443 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 6: on the spectrum. I believe in inclusivity. People should go 444 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 6: out of the way to make kids feel included. Absolutely, 445 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 6: But when you start talking about competition, and when either 446 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 6: scholarships or championships or even money is on the line 447 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 6: and there's a competition, equity doesn't play into that. Sports 448 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:34,880 Speaker 6: is like one of the last bastions of inequality or inequity. 449 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 6: Like if the best are the best, the strongest survive, 450 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,640 Speaker 6: this is what sports are, correct. 451 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:46,919 Speaker 2: Right, Yes, yes, absolutely correct. There's definitely a contradiction. I 452 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 2: just hate the forced apology. That's my biggest issue is, 453 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 2: you know, I don't care if you get along. You 454 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,360 Speaker 2: don't have to like anybody, and I just I hate, 455 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 2: I truly, truly do not like the oh, everybody's got 456 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 2: to like everybody, everybody's got to be Kuma yacht. You 457 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 2: talk shit, talk shit. 458 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:07,719 Speaker 6: So that wins. 459 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 2: Definitely, that's annoyed. 460 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 1: Why are we doing this because we can? 461 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 6: All right? So this one's fun, Doug, This one's fun. 462 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 6: This takes a little bit of laying out, So Howard Stern. 463 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 6: One of the reasons I got into the business. Okay, amazing. 464 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 6: You could talk about how water down his product has 465 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 6: been over the past ten to fifteen years. But he's 466 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 6: like in his mid to eight sixties, so I don't 467 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 6: know how how edgy and dark he can get as 468 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 6: he gets into his sixties. But anyways, he brings up 469 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 6: a good point here. I love this point. So do 470 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 6: you notice how baseball broadcasters when a player is hit 471 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:59,719 Speaker 6: in the balls, they find every creative way to describe it. 472 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,360 Speaker 6: But they never just say, oh, man, that got him 473 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 6: in the nuts, that got him in the balls, that 474 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 6: got him in the sack, that hit his dick like, 475 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 6: they never say that stuff. These are examples of how 476 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 6: they creatively work their way around that. Right. He took 477 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 6: that right where the sun don't shine. He took one 478 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 6: in a sensitive area. 479 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 13: He got that one in the athletic supporter. 480 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 6: That hit right in the midsection, got Garrett Stubbs in 481 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 6: a very tender spot between the wickets. 482 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:27,880 Speaker 2: Not a great spot. 483 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 6: A little one on two. 484 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 10: Yeah, there's no trainers coming out to rub that one. 485 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 6: That one hit him at a suburb south of the stomach. 486 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 6: I think, right near the belt. 487 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 9: It got Adley below the equator. 488 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 13: Oh No, it didn't get him on the foot. 489 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 6: That is not a foot. 490 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: No, it's not that bounced right into his belly. 491 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 6: Oh no, not on the belly. Never mind, that's a 492 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 6: different kind of belly. You don't need a replay. Know 493 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 6: where that ball got him. He will be a soprano 494 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 6: for the next inning or so. So Howard Stern took 495 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 6: aim at the over sensitive, over politically correct ways in 496 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 6: which broadcasters sum up this incidence. 497 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 13: I love when radio announcers or anyone in the media 498 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,479 Speaker 13: still is pretending like our world is in a fucking 499 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 13: mess and there's no internet and there's no porn. Nine 500 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,479 Speaker 13: year olds are busy watching porn, and these guys are 501 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 13: dancing around the word like, you know, hey, the guy 502 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 13: got hit in the nuts or balls or testicles. You know, 503 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 13: they're acting still like it's like the nineteen forties or fifties. 504 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 2: So funny. Why can it play for you because we 505 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 2: can That's it for the ind the Bonus podcast. That 506 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 2: was just that was awesome? Did you put that together? 507 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 2: Is that from his show? 508 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 6: It's all from his show? Yep, so good. 509 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 2: Why can you play for you because we can't. That's 510 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 2: it for the Invos podcast. I got the radio show 511 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 2: every day three to five years Feal specific Fox Sport Tradio. 512 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 2: I heard radio app I'm do Galli