1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: L fifteen to ten touched up Sack. 2 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 2: What's up? 3 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 3: Guys, Welcome into another episode of Chargers Weekly from the 4 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 3: Hope Performance Center as always, joined by Matt Muddy Smith. Buddy, 5 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 3: we're taping this about an hour and change before you 6 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 3: hit the road. This is a time will cast by 7 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 3: the way on Friday. So if you listen to Money 8 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 3: on the radio, you're also gonna be able to watch 9 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 3: more TV. 10 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 2: It's gonna be fun. So, you know, thinking about our 11 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,599 Speaker 2: friend Noah Eagle, he got pressed into emergency duty has 12 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 2: to apply to Ireland. It's called the Notre Dame Navy 13 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 2: Game and for NBC that issues new employer no longer 14 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 2: doing the Clipper play by play here in town, and 15 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 2: said he is hired by NBC to do Big ten 16 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 2: football and they need him to head over across the 17 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 2: pond there to call the Notre Dame game. So Josh Rupreck, 18 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 2: the name you may not hear often, but one of 19 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 2: our bosses here is had the idea, why don't we 20 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 2: do a simulcast. Let's get you DJ and Dan and 21 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 2: the booth LT down on the field and gonna have 22 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 2: a lot of fun. I'm gonna do everything I can 23 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 2: to stay out of the way. I got a lot 24 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 2: of big football brains between those three that can really 25 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 2: break it down and should have a really good time 26 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 2: talking about this final preseason game. The roster what we've 27 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 2: seen so far, so I'm really looking forward to it. 28 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 2: I'm excited and on your home channel two, Channel two. 29 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll be a pregame post game with the great 30 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 3: Jim Hill and Jalila Die and Haley O Wood. 31 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: So it'll be fun. This last preseason game. I always 32 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: date back to. 33 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 3: The Austin Eckler twenty seventeen year right because it was 34 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 3: against San Francisco and that's the game he made the roster. 35 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 3: I guess before we look ahead to the Niners, let's 36 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 3: look back to that weird Sunday her a quake that 37 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 3: was really just rain. A game where you know, the 38 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 3: Chargers lose your takeaways. I guess maybe starting at the 39 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 3: quarterback position. 40 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 2: Well else, a rough game for Easton, no doubt. Took 41 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 2: a couple of really bad sacks, one on a third 42 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 2: down where he just had He had a couple where 43 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 2: I think he was sacked maybe three four times. He 44 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 2: just for whatever reason just didn't get rid of the ball. 45 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 2: So I'm sure that's something that that coach went over 46 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 2: with him. Didn't really have good protection. But at the 47 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 2: same time, a club of those sacks were on him. 48 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 2: Thought had one interception that just got baited into it, 49 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 2: didn't see the safety squatting, did not take the bait 50 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 2: to go deep. But he ran the ball really well 51 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 2: like and that's one of the things about Easton is 52 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 2: he's a legitimate dual threat and he ran the ball 53 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 2: with purpose, you know, rushed for two touchdowns, rushed for 54 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 2: first downs, you know, rushed into contact, really ran the 55 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 2: ball well. So there's there's that. You know, the connection 56 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 2: with Quinton was great. You know, we had the drops 57 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 2: on that first game, you know, Johnston three targets, three receptions. 58 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 2: That's great to see. The running game was not nearly 59 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 2: as effective. None of the runners quite had the same 60 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 2: sort of effect. So I think that was now. I 61 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 2: think it's also fair and look, everybody can play this game, 62 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 2: and they kind of do. But legitimately, the Saints had 63 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 2: their starting defense in for a good percentage of that game, 64 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 2: and the Chargers, you know, they started with Zion and 65 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: Jamari out there and then they were gone in a hurry. 66 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 2: So it really was for quite a bit of the game. 67 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 2: Backups versus starters in terms of Chargers offense versus Saints defense. 68 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 2: I think that's something to keep in mind. If it 69 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 2: looked a little bit lopsided but offensively, I would say 70 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 2: that's It's probably what stood out to me. 71 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: Sticking with Easton, no foot attended. 72 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, is he someone that you really want to see 73 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 3: make a jump on Friday in terms of did we 74 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 3: bring in another arm? Because I think people were very 75 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 3: happy with his progression over the last four to five seasons, 76 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 3: and he had a good camp. 77 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I think if I had to guess they're 78 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 2: gonna play, you know, he's gonna play again, and they're 79 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 2: gonna want to see a little bit more. Are the 80 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 2: Rams that bad? You know? Watching the Rams Raiders game, 81 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 2: they got chewed up and spit out by the Raiders. 82 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: As well, same score, thirty four to seventeen. 83 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Rams look like they're gonna be really bad 84 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 2: this year. So I think you have to be careful 85 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 2: about putting too much positive spin on the Rams game 86 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 2: and too much negative spin on this skame. So I 87 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 2: think we'll see him a little bit. For me, the 88 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 2: more interesting thing in the San Francisco game, and going 89 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 2: from Friday through Tuesday at one pm, is what's what's 90 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 2: the decision with Max Duggan. You know, to me, that's 91 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 2: that's a very valuable spot. And so with Easton, what 92 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 2: I'm guessing they really want to see is all right, 93 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 2: it'll be comfortable with two quarterbacks, because man, we'd like 94 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 2: to be comfortable with two quarterbacks, so they can plant 95 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 2: Max on the practice squad and then Easton, you know, 96 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 2: you can just run with two quarterbacks and that fifty 97 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 2: just think of that as your fifty third spot can 98 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 2: be an extra dlignement. Maybe that's you know, Girod Clark. 99 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 2: Maybe that's an extra wide receipt. Maybe that's Elijah Dotson, 100 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 2: like that's not Maybe it's an extra safety or court. 101 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 2: Maybe that's Cam Brown. You know, that's what I'd really 102 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 2: what I'm hopeful is that Easton can have a really 103 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 2: good first quarter, get out of there, and then they 104 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 2: feel comfortable planting to Max on the practice squad and 105 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 2: that gives you a roster spot. 106 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, and I think that's the reason he 107 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 3: didn't see Max at all. That was a little surprising 108 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 3: you didn't see him at all, But to see Easton 109 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 3: kind of struggle in that first half. It was good 110 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 3: to put him back out there. See the growing pantsy 111 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 3: you can kind of get himself out of it. The 112 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 3: running back position, like you said, Elijah Dotson game one 113 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 3: to game two a little bit different. I still think 114 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 3: Isaiah Spiller showed that burst and they hit that one 115 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 3: fifteen yard run. That really showed me this is the 116 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 3: guy that they drafted at the fourth round. 117 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 2: Of text saying it he's going to get reps. I 118 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 2: think that's what we've discovered this preseason. He's play. He's 119 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 2: going to play. It's not going to be like last 120 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 2: year where he's maybe not active on a couple of 121 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 2: game days and he's in the rotation. It's not just 122 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 2: one series in the first half and one series in 123 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 2: the second. He's going to be part of the rotation. 124 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 2: And that's you know, so that's where all the people 125 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 2: that are clamoring for Dotson to make the active roster 126 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 2: you have to now ask yourself, Okay, what this is 127 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,119 Speaker 2: a team that has its sights fixed on the Super Bowl, 128 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 2: like winning a Super how many carries is Elijah Dotson 129 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 2: going to get in a regular season game? If you 130 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 2: feel and I feel like we know what Joshua Kelly 131 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: is and he's a valuable part of this team. We 132 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 2: obviously know that Austin Eckler's and the conversation is the 133 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 2: best all around running back in the NFL. And now 134 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 2: we're feeling really good about Isaiah Spiller. So then the 135 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 2: question becomes, Okay, if Elijah makes the fifty three, what's 136 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 2: his role? You know, what is his role on game day? 137 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 2: And so now I'm going to ask the question and 138 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 2: answer it myself. The role is that it's a position 139 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 2: of attrition, you know, And that's his role is that 140 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 2: every year the running back takes a high rate of 141 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 2: injury games missed. So that's why he's on the active roster. 142 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 2: If he's not feel great about those three guys, as 143 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 2: long as they can stay healthy. If he is feel 144 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 2: really good about the depth, I. 145 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 3: Think the question Chargers fans have is can you keep 146 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 3: him on the fifty three initially so you don't lose him, 147 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 3: because that could be a guy you lose. But again, 148 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 3: game three is a perfect opportunity to see if that's 149 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 3: a guy worth keeping on your fifty three initially. 150 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we've we've been through this before. You know, 151 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 2: we've been We've been through this with Troy May and Pope, 152 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 2: we've been through this with Tres Newsom, Like we've been 153 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 2: through the preseason running back that raises his hand and 154 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 2: you say, ooh, you put them on the practice squad 155 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 2: and someone might claim him and they don't, you know, 156 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 2: and rarely do those players get claimed. 157 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 3: Who is the running back from Tulane that Coach Lynn 158 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 3: compared to a mac truck? 159 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 2: Why is the name of s Yeah, that's a scape. 160 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: A lot of like Tres Newsom, Troy May called. 161 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 2: Him at f one fifty Yeah, and I'm trying to 162 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 2: and it's it might have been one of those two. 163 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 2: It might have been anyway those like that's the thing, 164 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 2: like we think, oh, yeah, no doubt someone's gonna come Clay, 165 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 2: And maybe they will, you know, maybe maybe the Colts 166 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 2: come get them because John the Taylor's you know, not 167 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 2: going to be ready for the first game of the 168 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 2: season or they trade them whatever. So yeah, someone could 169 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 2: claim him. But I think that's that's what makes the 170 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 2: job so hard. So makes putting the fifty three together 171 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 2: so hard because you've got to play that and you know, 172 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 2: one of the things that Tom Telesco. During his interview 173 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 2: with with DJ and Me on this past Sunday against 174 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 2: the Saints, he brought up a point that people regularly forget. 175 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 2: He's like, don't forget, guys, we have a staff. We 176 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 2: have a pro staff that a staff that scouts the 177 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 2: pro teams. They're out there looking at bubble players that 178 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 2: will fit us better than maybe some of the guys 179 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 2: we have. So it's not just our ninety players, it's 180 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 2: the other guys that might get put on a practice 181 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 2: squad that fill a position of need for us a 182 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 2: little bit more than it'd be nice to keep a 183 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 2: fourth running back, you know, is it another safety if 184 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 2: Low is still not feeling one hundred percent? Is it 185 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 2: another corner if Jc's not ready to go, Like, that's 186 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 2: what you have to start thinking about as well. 187 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 3: I just the fact that Spiller didn't play at all 188 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 3: last year and he was a fourth round pick. What 189 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 3: do you think Dots is going to do this year? 190 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 3: Sitting on He's gonna sit on the practice squad is 191 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 3: going to be inactive because they have three guys ahead 192 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 3: of him. So the wide receiver position is another intriguing spot. 193 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 3: We've seen Quentin get the necessary reps. Darius Davis's fleshed 194 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 3: John high Tower played in his first game. Jalen Geiden's 195 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 3: status is up in the air as we begin September. 196 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 3: Where do you think they go in terms of wide receiver? 197 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 3: We know one to four, who's going to be the fifth? 198 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 3: And do they keep six? 199 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 2: Well, they're going to keep six because I don't think. 200 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 2: I don't think Guden's going to be ready, you know, 201 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 2: just we saw him working off to the side, you know, 202 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 2: in that final training camp practice yesterday. So if I 203 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 2: had to guess, I don't think he's going to be 204 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 2: ready to go, which means it's going to be a 205 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 2: pick your you know, pick your style of wide receiver 206 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 2: that you want to make the team. You know, Keeland 207 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 2: DAWs has caught everything that's been thrown at him, Yes, 208 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:45,719 Speaker 2: you know, but he is a similar receiver to Mike Williams, 209 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 2: keenan Allen, big body, you know, runs good routes, sure handed. 210 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,439 Speaker 2: You know, John high Tower's got speed. You know, he's 211 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 2: a little bit smaller, he's got speed. So I think, 212 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 2: you know, and remember we've got a fifth wide receiver 213 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 2: because Darius Davis go to make the team. So you're 214 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 2: really at five, and then you've now got to figure 215 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 2: out which of these two guys is going to be 216 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 2: the six and which one ends up on the practice 217 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 2: squad and will he be claimed? And I could see 218 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 2: either of those guys considering just what a passing league 219 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:19,199 Speaker 2: it's become. I could see either of those guys being claimed. 220 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 2: I think they are valuable and they could contribute. But again, 221 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 2: denzil Mims got cut. Yeah, denzil Ms got cut barely 222 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 2: even played. I think he already found another home if 223 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 2: I remember right, I think someone scooped him up. But 224 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 2: so it's you know, and again Mike Williams, Keenan Allen, 225 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 2: Josh Palmer, Quintin Johnston. Okay, now you're Darius Davis for 226 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 2: those you know, let's take the top off. And that's 227 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 2: something that we saw in the preseason. I'm very excited 228 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 2: about that. Teams had to honor Darius Davis. He's good man, 229 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 2: he can He's going to get to feeling to hurry 230 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 2: Jet sweet. But I'm just talking about just sending him. 231 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 2: You know, as long as there's no press, if you 232 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 2: can put him in motion and then send him so 233 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 2: you can't press him off the line, then you know, 234 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 2: there's your speed element as well, and maybe then Keelan 235 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 2: Dass comes in and that's how you. 236 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: Put that puzzle together tight end. 237 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 3: I think we're pretty solid on Gerald Everet, who we 238 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 3: talked to last week. Trey McKitty, Donald Parhum still and smart, 239 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 3: and that's the one stone going to make the act. 240 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 1: You can separate himself from They're. 241 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 2: Going to be four, and I think he does. I 242 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 2: do think I think they carry four, you know, and 243 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 2: who knows though it's you know, there's Trey's done a 244 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 2: nice job blocking this preseason. He's had a couple of 245 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 2: really good reps blocking and that's what he's asked to do. 246 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:39,199 Speaker 2: He's seemed frustrated, I noticed in the Saints game, and 247 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 2: also I think it happened a couple of times as 248 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 2: well in the Rams game where he's wide open and 249 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 2: the ball just didn't find him, and I think that 250 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 2: was frustrating for him. He wants more opportunities, and I 251 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,559 Speaker 2: think they view and to me, that tells me when 252 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 2: you're calling in the player, when the play's designed, he's 253 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 2: not He's dead last in the progression. It's not someone 254 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 2: that they think is going to contrue a lot in 255 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 2: the passing game. So what he's been asked to do, 256 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 2: I thought he's done very well. But Stone Smart. It's 257 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 2: just so interesting because of how new he is to 258 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 2: the position and how quickly he's progressed. He's sure handed, 259 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 2: and that goes a long way when you're a tight end, 260 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 2: because you're typically banging around, you know, in the middle 261 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 2: of the field, running those seam routes when you're you know, 262 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 2: you're trying to to make a play down the middle 263 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 2: of the field. Now maybe you're wide open, and he 264 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,439 Speaker 2: has shown a knack to create separation, you know, when 265 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 2: he's getting manned up by a safety or a or 266 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 2: a linebacker. So if I had to, you know, if 267 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 2: you ask me, hey, put your name on this and 268 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 2: sign it, I'd say four. And I think smart makes. 269 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 3: It's keep theme the offense, the offensive line, the starting 270 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 3: five or set you We'll clap at center, Foster Surrel. 271 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: Zach Bailey. 272 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 3: Those are the guys that you want to see have 273 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 3: a positive game Friday. And then you know, maybe that 274 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 3: is a position that Tom was referring to. Maybe there's 275 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 3: a tackler or a guard out there that fits what 276 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 3: Kellimore and Copy like to do. 277 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, to me, there's there's a roster about between you know, 278 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 2: Brendon Himss and probably Zach Bailey. I that's and I 279 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 2: think Bailey's played a lot more and I think he's 280 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 2: been a little bit more steady through the preseason. So 281 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 2: the one thing to remember about the Old line and 282 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 2: why it very well could be the best group in 283 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 2: the league, is that you've got your backup tackle and Sawyer. 284 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 2: So if one of the two tackles goes down, he 285 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 2: just kicks out and now it's much easier to replace 286 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 2: him with probably a Zach Bailey is now your number 287 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 2: one guard. So that's kind of a nice thing about 288 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 2: the Old line. That's where you get your depth. You know, 289 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 2: very very few teams have two good tackles, and the 290 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 2: Chargers have three, which is just incredible. Almost no teams 291 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 2: have three that you would feel good about throwing any 292 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 2: combination of those two out there. I feel like, you know, 293 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 2: Sawyer is not going to be leaky if he's with Slater. 294 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:54,719 Speaker 2: Soler and Pipkins are not going to be leaky, as 295 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 2: we know if they're out there together. So that's that 296 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 2: is a huge win for this team going into the 297 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 2: season to have that kind of depth at that position, 298 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 2: and I think you hit it on the head, Chris, 299 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 2: it's it's Foster Surrell, it's Zach Bailey. Obviously you need 300 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 2: will clap, and then it's McFadden or McK McClendon because 301 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 2: it was just taken. He's developmental and I can't imagine 302 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 2: him getting planned on the practice squad. 303 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 3: You know, our buddy Brendon Thorne, who we've had on 304 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 3: the podcast talking all things over line, he brought up 305 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 3: a good point about Foster. He had to go up 306 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 3: against Nick Bosa, Max Crosby and some other elite pass 307 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 3: rusher in his three starts last year. Yeah, we heard 308 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 3: about him going down to Duke Mannyweather and improving this year. 309 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 3: So listen, when when Nick Bosa and Max Crosby are 310 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 3: on the menu, it's not gonna go well for you, No, 311 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 3: you know, for anybody, now, you know. So that's that's 312 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 3: one thing I think that you can take. Those are 313 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 3: the reps you take and you say, Okay, I got 314 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 3: better from that in twenty twenty two and I can 315 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 3: apply to. 316 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 2: Twenty twenty three. Yeah, Foster's interesting just because and I 317 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 2: think this is something that, look, you can you can 318 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 2: take it as positive or negative. I don't know what. 319 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 2: I'll let you be the judge. I won't give you 320 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 2: my opinion on it. But you know, Foster was the 321 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 2: number one ol lignement in California is five star and 322 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 2: he went to Stanford, so you know there was something 323 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 2: there that that people saw. And I think people tend 324 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 2: to chase that. They chase first round, they chase five stars, 325 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 2: saying Okay, why why couldn't they extract that? What is it? 326 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 2: What can we do? In the case of Foster, he's 327 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 2: had a so so preseason. There have been quite a 328 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 2: few pressures that he's given up. It's been a bit 329 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 2: of a tough go for He and Austin pleasants at 330 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 2: the tackle position. And look, it's understandable, right you had 331 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 2: Zion and Sawyer in the middle there and they've given 332 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 2: up nothing like they have just been rocks in the 333 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 2: center of that line. So but that's it's a developmental position. 334 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 2: Think about Trey year one and year two and then 335 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 2: Pop year three. It all comes together and I think 336 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 2: that's where the Foster Sirel project is super interesting and 337 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 2: comes into play. 338 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: Starting five. Feel great about it. 339 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 3: I mean, you give Rashaan slater back Corey Lindsley's a rock, 340 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 3: the two guards, and then Trey coming into his own 341 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 3: last year hoping for even better in twenty twenty three. 342 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 3: So we talked about these TCU rookie wide receivers drifted 343 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 3: in the first and fourth round, sandwiched in between. It's 344 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 3: a pretty good defenders man Henley until he pullout to 345 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 3: they showed why they were drafted in the second third 346 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 3: round on Sunday morning. 347 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 2: Dan was the best player on the field either team. 348 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 2: He was incredible. It was It was fun to watch him. 349 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 2: He's an athlete. He hits, he diagnoses, and attacks with 350 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 2: no hesitation. The sack was Derwin esque, just the timing, 351 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 2: knowing when to fire, how quickly he got through that 352 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 2: hole before it could collapse, just the sure handedness when 353 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 2: he arrived at the quarterback. There was that there was 354 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 2: a tackle for loss that was also found the hole 355 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 2: in the midst of a ton of mud and was 356 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 2: able to assess and attack that. And then he had 357 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 2: a play where he went from opposite hash to sideline 358 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 2: and ended up making the tackle. I think they maybe 359 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 2: got a two three yard gain out of it, and it looks 360 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 2: like something that could have been a big gain or 361 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 2: he was great. And that's DJ said this on the 362 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 2: broadcast during the game. You know he he pointed out, 363 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 2: Brandon likes versatility. Just think about what he had hoped 364 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 2: to do with Derwin last year if he could have 365 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 2: got the pieces right, and that's something that Dayon may 366 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 2: free up so he can play. Dayon can play that 367 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 2: a dollar or I don't know if Brandon calls it 368 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 2: dollar or money. So it's some version of that. And 369 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 2: every defense but that linebacker safety hybrid where you've got 370 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 2: to be able to carry a tight end or you 371 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 2: can rush the passer on a blitzer as a second 372 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 2: level blitzer, like Dayon's gonna fill that gonna You're gonna 373 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 2: see if he's what we think he can be. Just 374 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 2: the combo of he and Durwin out there together and 375 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 2: the offense having no idea where either of them are 376 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 2: coming from, which one's dropping, which one's coming, where are 377 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 2: they coming from, It's gonna be fun. Like it's gonna 378 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 2: be fun. 379 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 3: So sometimes it'll take half a season enough you're even 380 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 3: going to get contributions from your first, second, third, fourth. 381 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 3: We know right now Quentin's going to contribute. Darius is 382 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 3: going to contribute it a big way Tooley's right behind 383 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 3: Bosa and Mac and Dayon. I mean the fact that 384 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 3: Deayon could do so much and then also be a 385 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 3: special team Dace. Like we know the first four picks 386 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 3: are going to contribute to this team. Right before the 387 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 3: third preseason game, Tom Tom and company did pretty good. 388 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 2: This year, and I'll add one more. Matt Locke's going 389 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 2: to contribute. He's going to be in that rotation. I 390 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 2: have no doubt about it. He's good six weeks, really good, 391 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:37,439 Speaker 2: and you're seeing he cannot be He's not moved with 392 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 2: the old lineman, and I know he's facing back up 393 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 2: old lineman, but he is strong at the point of attack. 394 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 2: He holds, he sheds, he makes tackles, he'll he'll carry guys. 395 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 2: You'll see, we've seen it. You put a backup in there. 396 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 2: You know when he was facing the second and third 397 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,959 Speaker 2: level offensive lineman a couple of times they're on skates 398 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 2: and he is just jamming that guy and collapse in 399 00:18:56,080 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 2: the pocket. He's good. He's really talked about him last week. Yeah, 400 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 2: So I think you're talking about four contributors, five probably 401 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 2: out of this rookie class. And we'll see how you know, 402 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 2: when when things get real and they're out there against 403 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 2: the Dolphins or the Vikings. You know, think about those 404 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:16,919 Speaker 2: first three weeks Dolphins, Titans, Vikings. You got three veteran laden, 405 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 2: really good teams, smart coaches. You know, we'll see how 406 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:24,719 Speaker 2: it goes. You know, bright offensive mines obviously, and and 407 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 2: just Mike Rabel's one of the steadiest head coaches in 408 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 2: the league and always fields a competitive squad no matter 409 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 2: who's out there. So it'll get real in a hurry. 410 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 2: But I do have faith that this rookie class is 411 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 2: going to contribute in a big way. 412 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:40,360 Speaker 1: Uh, the other linebackers won't play Knaine and Kendricks anybody 413 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: else at that position that you're you're looking at on Friday. 414 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, look, we have a pretty good it's idea. 415 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 2: It's I just don't I think in terms of Brandon's defense, 416 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 2: it doesn't require a lot of that. And it's too 417 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 2: bad because Blake Lynch has had a really good preseason. 418 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 2: I know, I got banged up in that Saints game, 419 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 2: but he's had a he's been a tackling mache had 420 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 2: a sack on a blitz Carlo Kemp is an edge, 421 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 2: not necessarily a linebacker, but he's a smaller edge, so 422 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 2: he might fit into that outside linebacker. You know, he 423 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 2: probably fall under the label of an edge. He's been 424 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,360 Speaker 2: really good. Those are guys that they're going to try 425 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,479 Speaker 2: to park on the practice squad and you feel good 426 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 2: about I think Nicknemon is still shown he's super valuable 427 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 2: to this team on special teams. And I you know, 428 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 2: and I think you trust him if you got to 429 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 2: send him out there because guys get hurt. But I 430 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 2: think he's still super valuable and as his aimen. You know, 431 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 2: those are two linebackers that are going to make the 432 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 2: team because they're foundational p their core four guys, their 433 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 2: foundational pieces for special teams. 434 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: So three years later, think about this. 435 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 3: In twenty twenty, we were having legitimate discussions as whether 436 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 3: or not the Chargers should draft Isaiah Simmons right right 437 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 3: or Jeff acud Hure percent Simmons gets traded for a 438 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 3: seventh round. Tick Raday Jonathan Gannon, who's best friends with 439 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 3: coach Staley, has Kaisier White in Arizona, feels comfortable with him. 440 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 3: So it does show you that some of these guys 441 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 3: are expendable. Could you imagine if Simmons was drabbed over 442 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 3: Justin Herbert. 443 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 2: Well, I don't think that was ever going to happen. 444 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 2: I don't think so, but yeah, And I think it's 445 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,120 Speaker 2: also a reminder that football is so circumstantial. 446 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: It is. 447 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 2: You know, who knows if he was If Isaiah Simmons 448 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 2: was drafted over Justin Herbert and they end up taking 449 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts in the second round, you know, if that's 450 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 2: the way it goes, maybe Isaiah Simmons is, you know, 451 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 2: the second coming of take your pick. I don't know, 452 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 2: maybe you know what I'm saying, Like, I don't want 453 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 2: to throw names out there and sound ridiculous, because he 454 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 2: was just traded for a seventh round pick, but he 455 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 2: was incredible at Clemson. I mean incredible, guy could do everything, 456 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 2: and he went to a terrible organization that just I mean, 457 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 2: look at who is guy to Temple Son Reddick Sore. Yeah, 458 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 2: they couldn't figure out what to do with him. He 459 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 2: goes to Philadelphia and the guy's got fifteen sacks. It's 460 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 2: like he goes home and he's good exactly. So I 461 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 2: think it's also, you know, before we start piling on Isaiah. 462 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 2: Let's give him a chance in New York work with 463 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 2: a great organization now with Brian dabole Unlet's see what 464 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 2: he can do. But I'm just like man a seventh 465 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 2: for Isaiah Simmons. 466 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: Well, it's just it's they're they're they're cleaning. 467 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 3: House of all the previous administrations. They like DeAndre Hopkins 468 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 3: laughed at it. He said, oh okay for a seventh 469 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 3: round pick. So Simmons Simmons has he's young. 470 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 2: The Rams and the Cardinals are in a dead ass 471 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 2: sprint for Caleb Williams. I mean, that's just that's all. 472 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: There is not It's a two two team division. 473 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 2: They are both sprinting to the to the finish line backwards. 474 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 3: Speaking of draft picks that may be questionable, Trey Lance 475 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 3: is good. Really, it's the Bowl. It's the Bison Bowl. 476 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 3: It's a stick versus Lance. Yeah, they were back to 477 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 3: back guys and and Trey is probably gonna have an 478 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 3: opportunity to put some tape out there to either get 479 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 3: traded or you know, show the Niners that maybe there's 480 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 3: still a little bit of hope. 481 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 2: Uh. 482 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 3: He'll be going up against the secondary of the Chargers, 483 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 3: who we know is pretty established. 484 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 2: Uh, j T. 485 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 3: Woods is the one guy that I think has made 486 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 3: some strides this preseason. The big time that that's going 487 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 3: to contribute is that third safety behind a Loohi and 488 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 3: third one. 489 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 2: He had a great game. I know he had one 490 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 2: bad angle early in the game, but man, he responded 491 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 2: and you know, had an interception not yesterday day before 492 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 2: in practice, great interception. And he's really played well. I 493 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 2: thought he had a really good game that you know. 494 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 2: The thing with JT was tackling and that was his 495 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 2: thing at Baylor, and that's why he slid to the 496 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 2: third round despite leaving the lead, you know, leading the 497 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 2: NCAA in interceptions and being a four to three guy 498 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 2: that's long and had you know, on field ball production. 499 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:33,439 Speaker 2: So how do you slip to the third round. Well, 500 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 2: that's why he was not a great tackler, and we 501 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 2: saw that last year and particularly in that Arizona game. Coach, 502 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 2: you know, just felt like I can't afford that moving 503 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 2: forward here now you're seeing we saw him. He's been 504 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 2: physical this preseason. I mean, he had a couple thumpers 505 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 2: out there on Sunday and it's been fun to see 506 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 2: because that's if he can get that squared away. Man, 507 00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 2: This dude with high, high ceiling, you know, ball production 508 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 2: skills at that high safety position. You know, they can 509 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 2: really come up with a couple two three four interceptions, 510 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 2: game changing style interceptions in a game. 511 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 3: You know about any other players, and I should say 512 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 3: another player that we always see in practice he's productive, 513 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 3: he can't stay healthy is Mark Webb. This is a 514 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 3: huge game from Mark Webb as whether or not he's 515 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 3: gonna make this fifty three. 516 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 2: That's an interesting one just because I think Raheem Lane 517 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 2: is one hundred percent in He's He's such a good 518 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 2: special teams player, so I think it's going to take 519 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,199 Speaker 2: a lot to get him off the fifty three. And 520 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 2: I don't know if they can carry both Lane and 521 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 2: Mark Webb. But you know, Mark Webb is another one 522 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 2: of those. He can play safety, he can play corner, 523 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 2: he can play nickel, he can you know, he can 524 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 2: do a lot. And that's why he's so intriguing. He 525 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 2: just has not been able to stay healthy. So hoping 526 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 2: he goes out there, plays great shows he can stay 527 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 2: healthy and you know, make it hard, make it really 528 00:24:58,359 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 2: hard on the front office. 529 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 3: What else we want to see Friday, Buddy, I I 530 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 3: really I think we're at the point, how where we just. 531 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 1: Want to get to Miami. 532 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 3: This is this is almost like this third preseason game. 533 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 3: Is it's good for maybe to forty eight to the 534 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 3: fifty three. But I don't I don't know if a 535 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 3: lot of veterans are going to be traveling and this 536 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 3: is really just all about kind of filling out your 537 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:19,679 Speaker 3: final fifteen. 538 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. I think the I think those 539 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 2: you know, last couple spots. I'm a big fan at 540 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 2: your Rod Clark, big fan. I think he is something 541 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 2: they need. He's he's a legitimate He's listed at three thirty, 542 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 2: no chance, no chance, he's three sixty five. If he's 543 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 2: fifty pounds. He has got hockey assists all over the 544 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 2: place out there. You know, you watch his tape and 545 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 2: you will see, man, that guy is. He is strong. 546 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 2: He's more athletic than you think. So I'd really like 547 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 2: to see him make this roster. I fall for these 548 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 2: guys every year, though, you know, I really do. Brendan 549 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 2: Braden Fojoco, Forrest Merrill. This year, I'm a Gerrod Clark. 550 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 2: They've all stayed in the mix, and they have and 551 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 2: they've all contributed, they've all been super important, you know, 552 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 2: and I just kind of think about what this team 553 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 2: doesn't have. They don't have that like they they've got 554 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 2: the super athletic anterior lineman looks, you know, Bash and 555 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 2: Austin Johnson. They're big guys. Tito's big. Now, Tito's a 556 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 2: big dude. But they don't have that three hundred and 557 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 2: fifty three hundred and sixty pound nose tackle that can 558 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 2: occupy two blockers and they got no choice but to 559 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 2: put two on them. So that's a guy I'm really 560 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 2: keeping an eye. And I think if he has another 561 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 2: good one, he's already put together two really good games 562 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 2: and great joint practices with the Saints. I think he's 563 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 2: one to watch. And yeah, I think that's you know, 564 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 2: we've already discussed everybody else. You know, Elijah and the 565 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 2: wide receiver, battle Stone Smart and you met you know, 566 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 2: Cam Brown. The corner can never have too many corners, 567 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 2: So maybe keep an eye on him on special teams, 568 00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 2: see if he flashes on that front. 569 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 3: We as we close camp, the starters are now all 570 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 3: eyes on week one? How would you assess what we 571 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 3: saw in camp from the ones on both sides. 572 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 2: Great team and it's a really good team. I think. 573 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 2: You know, if you just go through the thirty two 574 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 2: teams in the NFL and your rank rosters, you know, 575 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 2: top to bottom, Chargers are They're They're right at the top. 576 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 2: They are right at the top. They've got talent at 577 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,880 Speaker 2: every single position group, you know, like and they got 578 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 2: blue chip talent O line, D line, secondary, quarterback, wide receiver, 579 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 2: running back. That's they have blue chip talent with depth. 580 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 3: This year, it seems like the depth, the depth at 581 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 3: the beginning of the year as opposed to last year. 582 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: I don't want to say it's. 583 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 3: Night and day, but it's definitely significant. Y, you know, 584 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 3: wide receiver position, the running backs, the corners, having JC 585 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 3: back with Mikey and and Assante, Like, I do feel 586 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 3: like guys who had to play last year that maybe 587 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 3: weren't expected to play. 588 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,360 Speaker 1: That's going to be very valuable to this. 589 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 2: Team in this subcosm. Yeah, you mentioned h corners with 590 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 2: Josh here and what he was able to do. Yeah, 591 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 2: let the lines the lines really are is what flashed 592 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 2: for me this year is Wow, they got you know 593 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 2: two Lee's good. You know, they got a little bit 594 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 2: of depth there now, and that's that's another interesting one 595 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,679 Speaker 2: with Farmer and Brevin. Anna like, they've got some good 596 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 2: practice squad. Hopefully people don't snatch them up line options 597 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,479 Speaker 2: if they have to kind of pluck from the practice 598 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,439 Speaker 2: squad as well. Now that's something to remember too. Like, 599 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 2: as I'll wrap it up, Brian keeps looking at his 600 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 2: watch like we're going too long or something. Jerk. What 601 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 2: I would say is, don't forget about the sixteen practice 602 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 2: squad guys, because you're talking about a position you know, 603 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 2: you're talking about a practice squad that last year was 604 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 2: leaned on heavily. Heavily those guys contributed, So don't get 605 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 2: so fixated on the fifty three. Let's not forget last year. 606 00:28:55,400 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 2: You know, Moa Hinton, Fojoko, those guys were practice squad guys, 607 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 2: you know, and they were able to contribute to this team. 608 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,479 Speaker 2: Raheem Lane was up and down from the practice squad, 609 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 2: big contributors, So that's something to remember. Those sixteen names 610 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 2: are also super important for what this team wants to 611 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 2: try to accomplish in twenty twenty three. I get it. 612 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 3: I think fans are antsy right now because preseason Week 613 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 3: three it's all right, let's just get to week one. 614 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 3: We're gonna have Week zero next week with the fifty 615 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 3: three man roster intact. Maybe we'll answer some questions next 616 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 3: week before we get to week one, you know, answer 617 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 3: some questions about the season. Who got cut, who's on 618 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 3: the practice squad, any guys that may get picked up. 619 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 3: There's still some free agents out there, so a lot 620 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 3: probably to develop over the next couple of weeks. As 621 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 3: we get to Week one against Miami Dolphins, Money, you 622 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 3: got a flight to catch, I'm gonna hang here, I 623 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 3: do pregame post game, and you got this guy simulcast 624 00:29:50,440 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 3: Friday on CBS. Still, it'll be fun