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Speaker 3: Hope everybody got theirs stretchy pants washed. You're ready to

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Speaker 3: sit around and sweatpants for the next two days, but

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Speaker 3: He's buck rising up Jason fitz. Buckin Fitz taking over

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio tonight on a big weekend across the landscape,

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Speaker 3: and one of the things we'll be talking a lot

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Speaker 3: about is Rivalry Week. But here's the fact, nobody wants

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Speaker 3: to hear Buck rival Reweek doesn't really have the same

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Speaker 3: impact anymore. I want this. This is what I asked

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Speaker 3: eight pounds, six sounds Baby Jesus for this year for Christmas.

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Speaker 3: What I asked Santa Claus for very simple here's what

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Speaker 3: I need, the one thing in the world I need

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Speaker 3: more than anything else in my sports library, my sports lexicon,

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Speaker 3: the thing that I am begging the gods to give me.

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Speaker 3: I need Michigan to beat Ohio State in the game.

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Speaker 3: And hear me out, Ohio State fans, don't get mad yet,

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Speaker 3: all right, don't get mad. I need Michigan to beat

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Speaker 3: Ohio State and then Ohio State to go on a

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Speaker 3: run that leads to a national championship. So that we're

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Speaker 3: sitting here in February trying to make sense of a

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Speaker 3: team that's back to back national champions with back to

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Speaker 3: back losses in the game. Because every time I talk

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Speaker 3: to people in the Ohio area, every time I do

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Speaker 3: radio station interviews or talk about college football with anybody there,

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Speaker 3: all I hear about is we didn't win the game.

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Speaker 3: We didn't win the game. We didn't win the game,

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Speaker 3: to which I say, you don't raise a banner for

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Speaker 3: winning the game. You raise a banner for a national championship.

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Speaker 3: You don't get a big fat ring full of diamonds

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Speaker 3: for beating Michigan. You do for a national championship. In

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Speaker 3: the modern landscape, the way the game is built like

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Speaker 3: rivalries matter because you still see him in the grocery

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Speaker 3: the area. But like rivalry, games don't really matter. So

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Speaker 3: I want this chaos so that everybody has to understand

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Speaker 3: that it's far more important. Like Ryan Day's record against

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Speaker 3: Michigan doesn't matter. If he wins back to back championships.

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Speaker 4: It would be five in a row from Michigan. If

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Speaker 4: they were to win this year, which again last year

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Speaker 4: was improbable, they did it anyway. This year, it would

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Speaker 4: be the first time we saw Ohio State against a

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Speaker 4: higher level of competition, which has kind of been I

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Speaker 4: don't know if it's a complaint, but just kind of

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Speaker 4: the footnote with this Ohio State team. Yes they're great,

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Speaker 4: Yes they're the number one team. Yes they've handled business

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Speaker 4: all the way through. Yes, Julian Saying is a Heisman

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Speaker 4: Trophy candidate and favorite at this point in time. Well,

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Speaker 4: maybe Mendoz is the favorite, depending on which sportsbook you're

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Speaker 4: and they've got all the things that they need to

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Speaker 4: repeat as national champions. And maybe we've spent all of

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Speaker 4: this time throughout the course of the last offseason in

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Speaker 4: State to win it again. But I don't think Ohio

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Speaker 4: State fans can't like That's what makes that hatred and

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Speaker 4: then that rivalry so special. It's the thing that keeps

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Speaker 4: and all these different things are. It's the hate and

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Speaker 4: back to back national championships than they do about beating Michigan,

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Speaker 4: because You're right, they don't get anything for beating Michigan

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Speaker 3: Well, that's why my Michigan scenario is so important, because

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Speaker 3: when we talk about Ryan Day, the thing we should

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Speaker 3: not what they did against Michigan. Now, to your point,

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Speaker 3: is the other part of the inevitability here, which is

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Speaker 3: they go to the SEC Championship game, and let's just

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Speaker 3: say they lose the SEC Championship game, which then let's

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Speaker 3: don't know. This year's committee is in eye test committee,

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Speaker 3: I should say, for the SEC Championship game by three touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: I don't think the playoffs are given for this team,

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Speaker 4: So which would be crazy chaos, No I know, but

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Speaker 4: reignite all the kaelin de boor talk in that part

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Speaker 4: as big a talking point, I think, And you can

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Speaker 4: Point being, the Committee showed you, I think in a

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Speaker 4: They have very clearly defined ceilings for some of these

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Speaker 4: fourteen and you'll figure it out from there or you

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Speaker 4: won't tough pleep. That's kind of the situation that Alabama

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Speaker 4: what's to say that a three loss Alabama wouldn't still

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Speaker 3: Right, one hundred percent, And look, Vandy is the message

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Speaker 3: be worried about. What if BYU who turns around and

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Speaker 3: Texas Tech is still going to go. We're already looking

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Speaker 3: that's where losing the conference championship game becomes absolutely catastrophic.

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Speaker 3: Past committees has said that they don't want to hold

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Speaker 3: the conference championship game against you. But again, this particular

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Speaker 3: back to that game you just mentioned when you talk

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Speaker 3: one of the most heated sort of debates I've watched

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Speaker 3: on ESPN as the panel on the College Football Ranking show.

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Speaker 3: They just absolutely disagreed at their core to the way

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Speaker 3: the fact that there's no easy discussion here. Miami beat

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Speaker 3: Much like I remind people all the time, the Raiders

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Speaker 4: Transitive property though fits transitive property.

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Speaker 3: But we end up with this weird and I mean

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Speaker 3: it should have meaning, But also you know that one

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Speaker 6: This is not a Lane Kiffin conundrum. This is a

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Speaker 3: do you change where you're going to school in the

435
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Speaker 3: beginning of February. The school times don't align with that, So, like,

436
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 3: there's no way to start that school system when you

437
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:23,680
Speaker 3: need to start. If you want to be a part

438
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,239
Speaker 3: of the spring practices all of these things, you have

439
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 3: to be enrolled in school. How do you enroll in

440
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Speaker 3: school in the middle of February. That doesn't work with

441
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Speaker 3: actual academic calendars. So college football to fix this would

442
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Speaker 3: have to either ask every college in America to change

443
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Speaker 3: when their semesters start. Doesn't seem like that's likely to happen.

444
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Speaker 3: Or they're going to have to change the college football

445
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Speaker 3: calendar and start their games substantially early earlier. So then

446
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Speaker 3: you're talking about asking kids to start playing college football

447
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,399
Speaker 3: games in what late July? Like that, that doesn't make it,

448
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Speaker 3: he said, So like I hear Nick Chamber.

449
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Speaker 4: Went south, I mean no, or in Texas or on

450
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,920
Speaker 4: the West coast, Like it's just it's not it's not

451
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Speaker 4: feasible to enact that level of change for a variety

452
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Speaker 4: of different rates.

453
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Speaker 3: Yes, no, exactly. So that's why everything just becomes stuck.

454
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Speaker 3: And I think, you know again, this is where I

455
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 3: don't have any emotion. I just have logic with these things.

456
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 3: When you look at all of the logic, there is

457
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Speaker 3: no easy way for this to get worked out, Like

458
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Speaker 3: this is just the worst imaginable situation where a coach,

459
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Speaker 3: in order to go out and get the transfers and

460
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Speaker 3: get the roster built that he needs to get built

461
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 3: at the school that's likely going to be paying him

462
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,680
Speaker 3: ninety million dollars, he's going to have to stop coaching

463
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Speaker 3: at all Miss before the playoffs And that just feels

464
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Speaker 3: icky like that. But but I can't figure out a

465
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Speaker 3: way to solve it.

466
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Speaker 4: No, it's I mean it is, it's not currently there's

467
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Speaker 4: not a solve that currently exists, right, We're just going

468
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 4: I have to get through the flaws of this thing

469
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Speaker 4: as it's currently constructed, and I mean, I don't know.

470
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,199
Speaker 4: We'll see what decision Lane ends up making. It's going

471
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 4: to be polarizing either way. To your point the way

472
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Speaker 4: that you started this segment, there's never been one a

473
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Speaker 4: situation like this, but also an atmosphere to create a

474
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 4: situation like this ever in the that I can think

475
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Speaker 4: of in the history of collegiate athletics. And the fact

476
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Speaker 4: that Lane Kiffin has done his job right, He's gotten

477
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Speaker 4: Old Miss into the playoff picture. Lane Kiffin has done

478
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Speaker 4: his job. And you could say, well, the job is

479
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 4: not finished because the goal is a national championship and

480
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 4: that should be the priority. But that I think that

481
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 4: depends on the program that you're at, and it'll miss.

482
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Speaker 4: I think it is good enough to make the playoffs,

483
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Speaker 4: like I think Lane Kiffin has done his job at

484
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Speaker 4: a commensurate level that anything else beyond this would be gravy. Now,

485
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Speaker 4: if you want to be considered as one of the

486
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Speaker 4: best in your profession, if you want to be talked

487
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Speaker 4: about in the same way that we talk about Ryan

488
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 4: Day or Kirby Smart, than yeah, national championship every year

489
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 4: is the standard, which is why LSU and Florida are

490
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 4: in consideration at all, because if it was just about

491
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Speaker 4: winning ten games a year, he could stay at all

492
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Speaker 4: MISS and have a much easier lifestyle, as you've pointed

493
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Speaker 4: out several times on our on our weekend show together, FITZI.

494
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Speaker 4: But it's just it's very, very convoluted right now, and

495
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Speaker 4: I don't what if what if he loses the egg ball,

496
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Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like, what if he loses

497
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 4: the egg Maybe maybe he's thinking about all right, I'm

498
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,879
Speaker 4: I'm I'm going uh, no matter what. But then he

499
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 4: loses the egg bowl, LSU and Florida look around and

500
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Speaker 4: be like, how much money are we going to offer

501
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Speaker 4: the guy that just lost to Mississippi State When Mississippi

502
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Speaker 4: State doesn't beat anybody by the way, they're playing for

503
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 4: ball eligibility. They're not a good team, but they're a

504
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,159
Speaker 4: team that's good enough to make you sweat at this.

505
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Speaker 4: You talked about chaos scenarios earlier in the world of

506
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Speaker 4: college football, that that Egg Bowl has the potential to

507
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 4: be as catastrophic as any game played this weekend.

508
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Speaker 3: That's that's complicated, like this entire situation, and there's another

509
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 3: reason why. I don't think there's an easy answer. We'll

510
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Speaker 3: tell you what it is next, but first, man's bel

511
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:01,919
Speaker 3: you's got to get us caught up on what is

512
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,159
Speaker 3: going on. Get us caught up.

513
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Speaker 7: My friend fits you saying that it's icky is putting

514
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 7: it nicely, thank me, because it's so. It is so

515
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 7: it just sucks, Like the situation just sucks. And you

516
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 7: guys think there's a chance that Lane Kiffin is not leaving.

517
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 7: Why would you make that announcement if you were not leaving.

518
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Speaker 2: I know we're waiting on the official.

519
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 7: Announcement, but you get what I'm saying, Like, why would

520
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 7: you announce the announcement?

521
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 4: Hey, why is there an announcement to begin with?

522
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 2: Everybody, shut up, I'm so with you, I'm so with you.

523
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:33,880
Speaker 4: Why are we announcing anything?

524
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,439
Speaker 7: Just play and then when there's news, then share the

525
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 7: news because maybe there's not no news, but there's no

526
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 7: way there's no news anyway. It's just it's just an

527
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 7: annoying situation.

528
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Speaker 3: In the NBA.

529
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Speaker 7: Fellas you know, I don't know how old Steph Curry

530
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 7: is off the top of my head, but this guy

531
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 7: is actually playing defense tonight, and it's really nice to

532
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 7: see against the Rockets. The Warriors are up right now,

533
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 7: sixty three to fifty. It's still early in the third quarter.

534
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 7: This is the NBA Group play for the NBA Cup.

535
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Speaker 7: The Spurs are up on the trail Plazer seventy to

536
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 7: sixty five, also still early in the third. Halfway through

537
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 7: the third, these Suns are just cruising past the Kings

538
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 7: right now. Seventy two to fifty five is the score.

539
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 7: Russell Westbrook leading the way for Sacramento with fourteen points.

540
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 7: The Celtics snapped the Pistons thirteen game winning streak already.

541
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Speaker 7: They came out on top one seventeen to one fourteen.

542
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Speaker 7: Okse though is one of five NBA teams in the

543
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Speaker 7: history of NBA to start the season eighteen and one

544
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Speaker 7: or better. They defeated the Timberwolds one thirteen to one

545
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Speaker 7: oh five. OKAC has also won ten in a row.

546
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Speaker 7: The Grizzlies defeated the Pelicans in overtime one thirty three

547
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Speaker 7: to one twenty eight. When it comes to the NHL,

548
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 7: the Avalanche have won ten in a row. They just

549
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 7: shut out the Sharks six zero early in the third period.

550
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 7: The Mammoth are up on the Canadians three to two.

551
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 7: Late in the second period, the Senators are edging the

552
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 7: Golden Knights three to two. Just like the Canucks and

553
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 7: the Ducks, where the Canucks are up three to two

554
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,719
Speaker 7: and the Kraken are up are no The Crackner are

555
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 7: losing to the Stars two to one, but alexovachikan Fell

556
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 7: has scored his nine hundred and eighth career goal and

557
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,199
Speaker 7: the Capitol's top of the Jets four to three. Lightning

558
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 7: extend their winning streak to five after beating the Flames

559
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 7: five to one, and the Wild now have won six

560
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Speaker 7: in a row. They edged the Blackhawks four to three

561
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Speaker 7: in overtime. When it comes to the NFL four time

562
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Speaker 7: Pro Bowl Detroit line center Frank Ragnow is coming out

563
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 7: of retirement. The Bengals have activated Joe Burrow, off injured reserve,

564
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 7: and Isaiah Pacheco, running back of the Chiefs, who's been

565
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 7: dealing with the knee injury. He is expected to play

566
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Speaker 7: Thursday against the Cowboys. In baseball, the Blue Jays are

567
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 7: signing pitcher Dylan Sees to a seven year, two hundred

568
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 7: and ten million dollar contract, pending a physical. Also, ESPN

569
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 7: reports at the Angels and Third Basement Anthony Rendon are

570
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 7: in talks about buying out the final year of his contract.

571
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 7: He has owed thirty eight million in twenty twenty six

572
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 7: and he hasn't played in years. Okay, I'm exaggerating, but years.

573
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Speaker 3: Back to you guys, I just like the way you

574
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 3: said Anthony's last name, Monzi said, just yet.

575
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Speaker 7: Lead Bendun yet, sure, bendon Un.

576
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Speaker 4: Don't let don't make him do it now.

577
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 7: What it's a good thing to practice rolling your rs.

578
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 7: You never know when you're gonna need it.

579
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Speaker 4: No, that's fine, But he tries to do the sensual thing.

580
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 4: I just I cannot have that.

581
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 7: Violating my ear Spanish is a sensual language.

582
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Speaker 3: You know.

583
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, but this, this little pink Caucasian human being in

584
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 4: front of me rolling his ours is not sensual in

585
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Speaker 4: the least.

586
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 3: So I, you know, look, help, My sensualness just comes

587
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Speaker 3: through when I say, Buck rising, is that?

588
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 4: See?

589
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 3: See he's a book rising on Jason Frish's Stop that's dy.

590
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 3: Sometimes I whisper just to make my co host uncomfortable.

591
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 4: Works.

592
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 3: You did great, You're amazing. H Yeah. Look, I don't

593
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 3: even know where I was going to go. I just

594
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 3: started whispering and Buck, and now I forgot what I

595
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 3: was talking about. Link Kiffin. Yeah again, my my theory

596
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 3: in life. By the way, you can test this out

597
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 3: while you're hanging out with your family on Thanksgiving. Anything

598
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 3: that you say normal, that you whisper then becomes creepy.

599
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 3: It's not creepy when you say it, it's creepy when

600
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 3: you whisper.

601
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 4: It.

602
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 3: Like if I look at Buck and I say, I

603
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 3: like the hat you're wearing tonight, not creepy. If I

604
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 3: look at Buck and I say I like the hat

605
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 3: you're wearing tonight, it's very creepy. See what I mean?

606
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 3: So just try that at a Thanksgiving.

607
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 4: I don't like that at all not wonder. Oh you're welcome.

608
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 3: I'm here to help. I'm here to help. I'll be

609
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 3: here all night. Try the mail. For over forty years,

610
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 3: tire Rack's been helping customers find the right tires for how,

611
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 3: what and where they drive. Buck wants to drive away

612
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 3: from me as fast as possible. They're shipped fast and free,

613
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 3: backed by free road hazard protection with convenient installation options

614
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 3: like mobile tire installation tire rack dot Com. The way

615
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 3: tire buying should be. I'm not sure what the way

616
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 3: coach hiring should be, but like there is some nuance

617
00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 3: to this, and I find myself correcting my own thought

618
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 3: process sometimes because Buck, we've debated this on the weekend

619
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Speaker 3: a few times about where you can win a national championship.

620
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 3: I'm a big believer you can win a national championship.

621
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Speaker 3: And all miss right now. I mean, the proof is

622
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 3: in the fact that they should have been in the

623
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 3: playoffs last year. If their head coach hadn't helped them

624
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 3: blow a game against Kentucky, they would have been in

625
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 3: the playoffs. And the proof is in the fact that

626
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 3: they should be in the playoffs this year. So they

627
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 3: have one of the top nil budgets in the country.

628
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 3: You can win a national championship at all MISS. So

629
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Speaker 3: many people like me have been screaming, why would you

630
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 3: go to LSU when you can win a national championship

631
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 3: at all MISS. But also what if Lane just wants

632
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 3: to go to LSU. Like if one thing that Nick

633
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 3: Saban was very right about in his statement, if a

634
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 3: player just decides they want to play somewhere else, they

635
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 3: can play somewhere else in college football really anywhere. If

636
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 3: a coach decides they want to coach somewhere else, they're

637
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 3: just gonna go coach somewhere else. We spend so much

638
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 3: time trying to figure out what job is the better job,

639
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 3: when reality is, if Lane just wants to go to

640
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 3: LSU or Florida in the way that this is now

641
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 3: in the wy Wow West, he's got every right to

642
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 3: do that. And if he built it an old mess,

643
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 3: he can certainly build it build it wherever he goes.

644
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 3: So I understand the Lane portion of this. What I

645
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 3: don't necessarily understand is why there's this level of absolute

646
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 3: just buffoonery over hiring a coach that doesn't have a

647
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 3: landmark win, Like what is what is the biggest win

648
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 3: of Lane Kiffin's career. And this is where people say,

649
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 3: just making old misrelevant is the biggest win of their career.

650
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Speaker 4: Well maybe, yes, I know that's my entire argument. Thank

651
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Speaker 4: you for underminding me before I have the chance to speak.

652
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Speaker 3: But here's the thing, Like just being able to win

653
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Speaker 3: games didn't keep Brian Kelly employed, right, Like just how

654
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Speaker 3: many less smiles did Miles? Yeah, but that's the thing,

655
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Speaker 3: Like this all gets really confusing to me because yeah,

656
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 3: he's the best candidate available, But is the entire college

657
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Speaker 3: football calendar worth changing and the entire way that everybody

658
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 3: does business we're changing for Lane? Damn Kiffen.

659
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Speaker 4: Well, no, it's not Lane Kiffin, but it's what it represents.

660
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Speaker 4: It's what Lane represents, right, It's the opportunity for this

661
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Speaker 4: to happen again. I think that if you are talking

662
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Speaker 4: about the circumstance around Lane, yes it is. I think

663
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Speaker 4: it's exacerbated because it's Lane, because Lane leans in on

664
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Speaker 4: social media, Because Lane is dealing with an athletic director

665
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Speaker 4: that is comfortable putting out statements saying will announce what

666
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Speaker 4: we're gonna do with Lane Kiffin after the egg ball.

667
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Speaker 4: I just think that's as bad a move as has

668
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Speaker 4: been made in the middle of all of this that

669
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Speaker 4: has stirred stuff up unnecessarily. You can say that Lane,

670
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Speaker 4: you know, is that he should be above this, right

671
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 4: he's supposed to be this change person, this and the other.

672
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Speaker 4: Lane Kiffin has changed a great deal about his life

673
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Speaker 4: and route to making himself again a success after all

674
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Speaker 4: the trials and tribulations of the early part of his career.

675
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Speaker 4: That doesn't mean that he's not allowed to lean into

676
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Speaker 4: some of this on social media the way that very

677
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Speaker 4: many of us would in our own lives. I think

678
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Speaker 4: your point about making it about Lane is correct, but

679
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Speaker 4: it's not about Lane. It's about preventing another situation like

680
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Speaker 4: this for a team potentially. Get who is in the

681
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Speaker 4: playoff picture, who should be able to be in the

682
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Speaker 4: playoff picture, who has earned the right to participate in that,

683
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Speaker 4: but who's being undermined by the fact that all of

684
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Speaker 4: these institutions fired their coach in season. It's thrown the

685
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Speaker 4: coaching carousel into a level of fervor that we haven't

686
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Speaker 4: seen so much so that James Franklin is getting scooped

687
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Speaker 4: up by Virginia Tech. Basically in the middle of the

688
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 4: season and is hanging out on the sidelines on a

689
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Speaker 4: Virginia Tech hoodie, watching everybody else coach a team that

690
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 4: he's getting ready to take over next year. It's it's

691
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Speaker 4: a very messy situation, so Lane, it's impossible to remove

692
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Speaker 4: Lane from the scenario. But you have to think about

693
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Speaker 4: how many times, how many more times this could happen

694
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Speaker 4: down the line with the coaches of a similar caliber.

695
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 4: Wants SEC money, and that's really what it is. Once

696
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Speaker 4: SEC money starts to get involved the way that it has.

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Speaker 3: You're right, and that's why I think there's a massive

698
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 3: change that has to be made. There's one thing that

699
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Speaker 3: can be done that would prevent this from ever happening again.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what it is next. He's Buck Rising.

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Speaker 3: I'm Jason Fitzer, hanging out with you on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

703
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Speaker 2: Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven

704
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Speaker 2: pm Pacific.

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Speaker 3: He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitz.

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Speaker 4: It's Bucking Fits on.

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio. The look of absolute disgust, disdain that

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Speaker 3: I'm getting right now from Buck Rising, who apparently just

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Speaker 3: doesn't like to whisper okay, buck.

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Speaker 4: Uh, yeah, go ahead, let this play out. Oh yes,

711
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 4: the addited version of the Yeng Yang. I love the

712
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 4: Young Yang Twins. I love that they're performing at sea

713
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Speaker 4: World on a regular basis. Now. I don't know if

714
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Speaker 4: they have a residency there or not. It's just the

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Speaker 4: idea of you and the whisper song in the same

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Speaker 4: time in my life is not something that I want.

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Speaker 4: I don't want anything to do with it. It's really a

718
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Speaker 4: you problem. It's got nothing to do with a whisper song.

719
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Speaker 3: So I think I just picked my first song for

720
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Speaker 3: karaoke night when we go hang out, and that's what

721
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Speaker 3: it's gonna be. I'm gonna get right down on the

722
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Speaker 3: stet like I'm gonna writhe on the stage while I

723
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Speaker 3: whisper at you. That is my my goal, just to

724
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Speaker 3: make at me a salt. Yeah, that My goal is

725
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Speaker 3: to make the entire room uncomfortable. That's how we're gonna

726
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Speaker 3: go viral. He's buck rising. I'm Jason Vinzer's bucket fits

727
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Speaker 3: anything but that.

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Speaker 4: God, you're just slinking across the stage. Would you do

729
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 4: the unedited version or the edited version?

730
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Speaker 3: Well, no, I'll do the edited version because I wanted

731
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Speaker 3: to go on social media and I wanted to live.

732
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Speaker 3: And to be clear, I'm not going to do the

733
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Speaker 3: worm while it happens. I'm gonna do the caterpillar. It's

734
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Speaker 3: less there's like it's just more like a weird crawl

735
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Speaker 3: where like the hips come up and I just like

736
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Speaker 3: inch my way across the stage. Wow, whispering your book.

737
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Speaker 3: Rising's God, this is.

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Speaker 4: That you see what you've done. You see what you've done.

739
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Speaker 4: This is entirely within your control. We could have just

740
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Speaker 4: moved on, I mean, like mature adults, and yet in

741
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Speaker 4: my ears, we're coming back. Fits. This one's for you.

742
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Speaker 3: But I don't I think I think this was flawlessly

743
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Speaker 3: done by the team. And I don't know why you

744
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 3: have to tear everybody down right before the Maybe you

745
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 3: should be thankful, Maybe you should just try to have

746
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 3: some nights in your heart for the fact that you

747
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Speaker 3: have a co host that can whisper so well. So,

748
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Speaker 3: you know, I think that that's maybe, maybe that's part

749
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Speaker 3: of my charm. Maybe that's a maybe that's a it's

750
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Speaker 3: a positive not a negative that I can whisper things too,

751
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Speaker 3: and it's it works all right. I've fixed I've fixed

752
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 3: the college coaching conundrum. Oh good, college coaching conundrum.

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Speaker 4: Transition.

754
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Speaker 3: I have fixed it. Yeah, there's no way to transition

755
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 3: from making you uncomfortable. Uh, I've got it figured out.

756
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:02,720
Speaker 3: And it just came to me while we were talking

757
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 3: just a moment ago. This one is is very, very simple.

758
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 3: We need to just we moving forward. Jimmy Sexton the

759
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 3: power agent of all college football coaches and feels like

760
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 3: it's time to have a new negotiation practice for every

761
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Speaker 3: school while we're in this period. What you need to

762
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,240
Speaker 3: do from now on moving forward, in every coaching contract

763
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,919
Speaker 3: is simply put in the language that should the team

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Speaker 3: they're coaching make the playoffs, they cannot leave until the

765
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Speaker 3: playoffs are completed without let's say, an astronomical extra hundred

766
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Speaker 3: million dollars. You know, you just you put it an

767
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Speaker 3: astronomical number in there. That's like, great if you want

768
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Speaker 3: to leave, if it's a playoff season and you choose

769
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Speaker 3: to walk away, then we want a hundred million dollars

770
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Speaker 3: like you put in a balloon payment that makes it

771
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Speaker 3: absolutely impossible for a coach to leave his team before.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you in the

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Speaker 4: middle of that. I I mean, that would make sense.

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Speaker 4: But if you're Jimmy Sexton, would that not like this

775
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 4: plays into the hands of the agents to some extent, right,

776
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 4: like this is some of their leverage. Now, could they

777
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Speaker 4: stand to make more money if you put in a

778
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 4: poison pill type situation like that? Where I mean, would

779
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Speaker 4: would a program get desperate enough to actually do it?

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know what to make of

781
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,760
Speaker 4: LSU in its entirety right now. The whole thing seems

782
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 4: to be a bit of a mess. We haven't talked

783
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 4: about Brian Kelly officially getting fired finally from LSU because

784
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,240
Speaker 4: it was just so hard for him to find another job,

785
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 4: God forbid Brian Kelly.

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Speaker 3: Well, but this is where to your point, the real

787
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 3: fix to college football for everybody that thinks it needs

788
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 3: to be fixed, and I'm not sure it does, but

789
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Speaker 3: the real fix is a commissioner is one league, one

790
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 3: league with divisions in it, and a collective bargaining agreement

791
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Speaker 3: where all of the teams, all of the programs across

792
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Speaker 3: the country have one set of rules and all of

793
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 3: the players are part of a union that then negotiates

794
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Speaker 3: against those programs. It is the NFL. The real way

795
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Speaker 3: that you fix this is you implement salary caps and

796
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:09,320
Speaker 3: standard procedures and you have a standardized practice all the

797
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 3: way across the board. The problem is that's going to

798
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Speaker 3: take ten years of court right, Like there's just it's

799
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 3: gonna take years of negotiation and litigation to get to

800
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Speaker 3: that point. That's not a fast solution, but Buck, that's

801
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Speaker 3: the only real solution, like the real solution to the

802
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 3: calendar and to competitive balance. If you think that's an

803
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Speaker 3: issue again, I don't. The real issue to how you

804
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 3: control nil again, I don't think. But the only way

805
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Speaker 3: that's all going to happen is if they literally come

806
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Speaker 3: in and collectively bargain.

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Speaker 4: And we know what a long and arduous process that

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Speaker 4: would be for us to even get to the point

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Speaker 4: of collective bargaining agreements. At this point in time's it

810
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 4: feels inevitable, but it doesn't feel immediate.

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Speaker 3: Well, in the meantime, we'll figure out how to swim

812
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 3: in these waters. More importantly, we're gonna figure out who

813
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Speaker 3: the frauds are in the NFL. We'll do it next