1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour. I 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: am Rachel and filling in for charity. Today we have 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:10,399 Speaker 1: the one and only Golden Bachelorette Joan. 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 2: Hi, Rachel, it's so good to be back. Today, we 5 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 2: have another fabulous bachelorette. Everyone, please welcome Ashley Rosenbaum. Hi, Ashley, 6 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 2: welcome finally to Happy Hour. 7 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: Yay. 8 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 3: You guys are so sweet to have me on and 9 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 3: even think about me. I thought I was like long 10 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 3: lost in the clouds in the past. 11 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 4: Absolutely not. 12 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 2: I need more an icon. Yes, will never fade. Oh, 13 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 2: I believe me. I remember your season perfectly. 14 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 3: You do. That's so sweet. Thank you nice. You made me. 15 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 3: You know you're boosting my self esteem this morning. 16 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 2: Well I don't think you should need it, but okay, 17 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 2: we'd love to do that. 18 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 4: Ashley, you look fantastic. 19 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 1: I just want the listeners to know this is your 20 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: first time on Happy Hour. I know that you are 21 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:59,279 Speaker 1: so beloved by Bachelor Nation. They love you and your 22 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: family and your and we're going to get into so 23 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: much today, but we're going to start out because we 24 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: just saw you in person at the Bachelorette reunion. 25 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 3: I know we had so much fun. It was so 26 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 3: nice to see. 27 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 2: It was so great. That was so fun. I got 28 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 2: to meet so many people I had never met before. 29 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 2: But I feel like I'm old, so I've been watching 30 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:20,839 Speaker 2: you guys for years. I feel like I'm your mother, 31 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 2: and I finally got to be in the room with 32 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 2: all these people that I felt like, I like I 33 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 2: know and people say that to me all the time. 34 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 2: I feel like I know you, but I really just 35 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 2: feel like that about you guys, So now I finally do. 36 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 2: It was such a privilege. Well how did you feel 37 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 2: when you got the call saying can you come back 38 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 2: and join this? 39 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 3: I was really excited, honestly, Like I feel like when 40 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 3: you watch the show or when you hear about somebody, 41 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 3: whether it's through social media or on the actual show, 42 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 3: I feel like you get a glimpse of what you 43 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 3: think they're like, and then when you meet them in person, 44 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 3: there's just so much more to each person than what 45 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 3: you see, and I just, I don't know. That's what 46 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 3: made me really excited to go back and meet everybody 47 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 3: that I hadn't met before and then just kind of 48 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 3: rekindle friendships and chat about things that we've all been 49 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 3: through and just kind of like catch up and just 50 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 3: you know, have a little escape from my reality which 51 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 3: is very crazy in my real life and just kind 52 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 3: of like go back to that that land where it 53 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 3: was magical right when we were on the show. Was 54 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 3: like it was almost like this escape from reality, right 55 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 3: like and I just feel like it felt to me 56 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 3: when I got the call like we were gonna go 57 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 3: on a vacation with a like a girls strupe. 58 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 2: Like a girl girls strup. 59 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 3: So I was I was really happy to go. So 60 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 3: that I was able to go. 61 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 4: It is so amazing to have you. 62 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: I think you truly have like one of the most 63 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: memorable seasons. Everyone, especially Charity, was so excited for. 64 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 4: You to be there. And I just have to add 65 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 4: this in. 66 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 1: For Charity, my co host, you are her number one 67 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: guess that she's wanted on this podcast. 68 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 4: She absolutely loves you and your season. 69 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 3: Wait, I need to know more about this, like what 70 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 3: she brings her. 71 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: I know, I literally wish I could FaceTime her for 72 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: a quick second because when we first started this podcast 73 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: when they said who do you want as a guest, 74 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: Ashley Rosenbob, she loves your season, and she loves you 75 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: with good reason. So for everyone that doesn't know. One 76 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: of the seasons that Charity went back to watch before 77 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: she came on this Crazy Journey was Ashley's. I mean, 78 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: she is just so excited that we have you on 79 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 1: and she's said she can't be here. 80 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 3: I just don't understand why, Like what was I mean, 81 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 3: I don't know. 82 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: I mean, you had some of the most iconic moments 83 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: ever and I do want to get into it and. 84 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 4: Talk about that. 85 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 3: I can't wait. 86 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. 87 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: And also, I mean you just like had such a 88 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: tough time on your season as well. Not only were 89 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: everybody I think people don't remember what they put you for. 90 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, you had so much turbulence on your season. It's 91 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 2: like it was a soap opera every single week. 92 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: But everybody successful and the hottest kissing in the rain 93 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: scene in Bachelor history. 94 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 4: Let it be known. 95 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 3: That was very good. That was very memorable. Even though 96 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 3: we're divorced now, I can still sit in the moment 97 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 3: and be like, yeah, that was hot. 98 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 4: Absolutely, it really was. 99 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 3: And we traveled all over the world, Like think about it, 100 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 3: your travel, Hong Kong, Thailand, Fiji, Like we had good 101 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 3: travel and we made them crazy. 102 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. 103 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,799 Speaker 1: No, absolutely, So before we get into all this because 104 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: we will absolutely be walking down memory lane. 105 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 4: You said that you were. 106 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 1: So excited to come back to the mansion and see 107 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: your girlfriends. 108 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 4: Who were you excited to catch up with? 109 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 3: And you know, I like all I like, you know, 110 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 3: I'm old, I'm older, right. 111 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 4: And oh, everyone needs to stop with this. 112 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 3: I'm in a different bacherette. So like Trista, obviously. 113 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 4: We're queen our matriarch. 114 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 3: Yet of course, Leanna's been through a lot in her 115 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 3: life recently and things that relate to so I was 116 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 3: excited to catch up with her. And like she's always 117 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 3: just like a breath of fresh air for me, Like 118 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,799 Speaker 3: just really real, kind of down to earth, fun cool, 119 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 3: Like I always like hang out Ali Fetatowski like always, 120 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 3: you know, I'm always interested in what she's up to, 121 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 3: her thoughts on things, Like she has a different perspective 122 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 3: on things, So I always love chit chatting with her. 123 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 3: And then Emily made her. She's my favorite bachelorette because 124 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 3: she is as well one and why I love her 125 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:35,679 Speaker 3: because she's beautiful, she's so freaking smart, and like people 126 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:39,359 Speaker 3: don't give her credit, Like he's the funniest bachelorette. She 127 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,679 Speaker 3: is the wittiest, the quickest, like she'll stand up for herself, 128 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 3: Like I love that about her, so I always love 129 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 3: hanging out with her too. So those are kind of 130 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 3: like my talks. And then I think I was so 131 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 3: excited to meet you. You held my hands in one 132 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 3: of the little group settings, Rach like you're so sold. 133 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: I need it to be known that Ash is one 134 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: of the tiniest little cubans I've ever seen, and I 135 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: just wanted to pick her up and carry her around 136 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: the whole time. 137 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:08,239 Speaker 3: There's no way you could pick me up your tongue. 138 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: You are the tiniest, You are so cute, and you 139 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: are the best. And I have a question actually getting 140 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 1: into the Taylor Frankie Paul of it all coming in? 141 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 2: Did you know any reason we were there? 142 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 3: Yep, Okay, I'm so sorry. I never I didn't watch anything. 143 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 3: I'm really guilty of not knowing much. I know that's okay, 144 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 3: A part of this, like the scandal associated with it. 145 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 3: I know some of it, but I really am I 146 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 3: was coming in. I like to have my own opinion 147 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 3: on people too. I don't like to do any deep 148 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 3: dives because you never know what you can trust, honestly, 149 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:44,119 Speaker 3: like I love just yeah, and like formulating my own 150 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 3: feeling about them. That's one thing that I'm good at 151 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 3: is knowing who to stay close to and know who 152 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 3: I love that far from. And like, of course I 153 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 3: didn't spend that much time with her, but like she's 154 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 3: seen like a great energy. She seemed like she had 155 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 3: this this modesty to her, Like I didn't feel like 156 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 3: she was like here, I am, I've been on reality TV, 157 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 3: I'm like the mom. Like I felt like she was 158 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 3: really humble and genuine, and that's what I like most 159 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:10,239 Speaker 3: about people. 160 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I love that you had a very different view, 161 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 2: like we've all kind of seen her, I think on 162 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 2: Secret Lives and the fact that you had not seen her, 163 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 2: and so you were giving like a real, true first impression. 164 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 2: And I love the way you described her. I felt 165 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 2: a lot of the same way. Do you have any 166 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 2: like predictions for her season now that you have kind 167 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 2: of met her and have this kind of frush you 168 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 2: of her? 169 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 3: Good question, Do I have predictions about her season? I 170 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 3: think that she I think she's been it seems like 171 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 3: she's been through a lot from what I've heard, so 172 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 3: she's coming in with like a lot of life experience. 173 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 3: You know, she's coming in in a different place than 174 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 3: most bachelors come in because she's kids. She has one 175 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 3: or two three, she has kids, so that's number one, right, 176 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 3: Like that changes everything she's already been through, maybe like 177 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 3: some drama atic scandals. So I feel like she's coming 178 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 3: in with like a fresh perspective and maybe like a 179 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 3: different priority. I don't know. I just feel like she's 180 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 3: coming in differently. I think she's going to make a 181 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 3: more mature decision. I think she's going to base her 182 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 3: choice on qualities that are important and something you only 183 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 3: learn as you go through things in life. So I 184 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 3: don't think she's going to pick the hottest guy. I 185 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 3: don't think she's going to pick the guy that like 186 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 3: gives her maybe those little butterflies. 187 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 4: I think she still might pick the hottest guy. 188 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 3: Oh okay, maybe that that would be great. 189 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: Like that was my only advice to her. I said, 190 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: pick the hottest one. 191 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 4: Really, that is why I'm the one down I did. 192 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 3: I said it good for you. You know what her works. 193 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 3: I think guys now and I'm like I used to 194 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 3: I used to be attracted to that type of guy, 195 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 3: and now I'm like totally not the opposite. It's what 196 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 3: are you now? I do not like guys. I cannot 197 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 3: put a screw in a wall, like You've got to 198 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 3: put a threw in the wall. You got to know 199 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 3: how to use a drill bit. You got to know 200 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 3: how to build some shit, like. 201 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 4: You have to build her a shed if you want 202 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 4: to be with Ashley. 203 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 3: I love that. 204 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 2: That would have been a perfect Bachlor episode, like something 205 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 2: mix the toilet. 206 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 3: I cannot if I can put more stuff up on 207 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 3: the wall than you were not a right fit. So 208 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 3: for me, I mean, I'm like manly, scruffy, bigger, like thicker, 209 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 3: like hairy. 210 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,559 Speaker 4: To throw you around, toss you around. 211 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, you want. 212 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 3: A man man he could wear boots like that could 213 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 3: be okay with me. I don't know, little like Dickies, 214 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,839 Speaker 3: car Hurt. I don't know. 215 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 4: She likes the blue collar man. She's like the Carhart, 216 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 4: the Dickies. 217 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 3: Okay, I loved it. 218 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: Ash What conversations were you in in the mansion For 219 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: those who don't know, they kind of broke us up 220 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: into groups and had to talk to Taylor based on 221 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,319 Speaker 1: our experiences on the show. So I was curious you 222 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: guys talked about. 223 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 3: I mean, and I was with the group of people 224 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 3: that were successes, even though I wasn't really a success. 225 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: But you are. 226 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 3: You had me, I mean you were you beautiful children. Yes, 227 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 3: we were together, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. So what 228 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 3: did we talk about? 229 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 2: I think like she was really curious. I was surprised, 230 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 2: like we didn't kind of wing it. She actually had 231 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 2: some questions for us. 232 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 3: Questions. 233 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, she had really In fact, she said, like, I 234 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 2: know where my shortcomings are. I remember specifically saying this, 235 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 2: and like, how am I not going? How am I 236 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 2: going to do better picking a better match for me? 237 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 3: Yeah? I think that's a really good insight. And that's 238 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 3: what I'm talking about. She's coming in from a place 239 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 3: with really good perspective. 240 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 2: And like, yeah, because she's picked two guys that weren't 241 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 2: great for her. I mean, like I do feel like 242 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 2: she was coming here with a different mindset, like I 243 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 2: got to do this better. I have this great opportunity 244 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 2: of all these men here that have kind of been 245 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 2: a hand selected for me. So these are people that 246 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 2: they think would be a good match. So I going 247 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 2: to do a good job of picking this person out, 248 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 2: and they were relying on us. Really weirdly to give 249 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 2: her advice. I mean, first of all, I'm old enough 250 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 2: to be her mother, so it's a little weird, like 251 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 2: it sounds probably pretty motherly, but coming from like you 252 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 2: and from Trista and who else was with us? 253 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: Somebody charity does does? 254 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 2: And I think there's only maybe a chat Oh Jojo, 255 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 2: Oh jojo Jojo was with us? How can we forget Jojo? 256 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 2: There was two of her there. You know, she's perfect. 257 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 2: So I can't remember the advice we really gave her. 258 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 3: Do you remember what we told her? 259 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 4: It does was giving some good advice. 260 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: I was listening from behind the counter because I was 261 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: also trying to get advice. 262 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 4: That's all I remember. 263 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 2: Are you going to do another stint on the Bachelor 264 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 2: that we don't know? 265 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 4: Yeah? The Golden Bachler. 266 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 2: You're still a baby, You're still a baby, you know. 267 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 3: I remember talking to her about when she was talking 268 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 3: about trying to remember. It was something about like how 269 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 3: to pick. Do you go based on your gut? Do 270 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 3: you go based on your brain? 271 00:11:59,000 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 2: Do you go? 272 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 3: I think we're talked a lot about that. I think 273 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 3: you're right, yep, And I think that needs to be 274 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 3: different for every person. But I remember talking to you. 275 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 3: Remember on my season, once I knew I wanted to 276 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 3: leave with JP, I wrote him a little journal every day, 277 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 3: and that was really helpful when we were watching it 278 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 3: back because he would understand the reasons why I did 279 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 3: certain things or made certain decisions. Like everything was kind 280 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 3: of you know diary. 281 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 2: So you did you go back and watch your season? 282 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 3: I'm trying to remember. I think we were actually in 283 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 3: Heiden at that point, so I think we watched it separately. 284 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 3: I believe we watched maybe the last episode together. But 285 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 3: that's a great advice. That's something I would recommend for 286 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 3: any bachelorette if you're feeling very confident in your selection 287 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 3: early on, It'll just make your life easier when you 288 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 3: go back and watch it to describing you know, Hey, 289 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 3: you know it's Hong Kong, and you know I'm going 290 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 3: on a date with this person. I chose to go 291 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 3: on a date with this person because of this. I 292 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 3: want to see this, Like, if you're really transit and 293 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 3: open and honest while you're going through that process and 294 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 3: you write it down, I think it just makes things 295 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 3: so much easier right for the show after the show, because. 296 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 2: Certainly that is a thing in Bachelor World that people 297 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 2: have problems at the end that like, well, you look 298 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 2: like you were really falling in love with them, like 299 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 2: you know, your feelings are now like you know, making 300 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 2: me like second guests, do you really love me? So 301 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 2: that's such great advice. You could say here, look read it. 302 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 2: This is what I wrote at the time. Do you 303 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 2: have any predictions for her season? I mean, you know, 304 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 2: she's a tough one. I feel like, really. 305 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 3: I don't know her well enough. Do I have predictions? 306 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean, she has kids, somebody has really put 307 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 2: into a very specific life, So I think she's going 308 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 2: to experience a lot of turmoil in her decision because 309 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:58,479 Speaker 2: I think she's gonna maybe. 310 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,319 Speaker 3: Have her heart take her one place, her brain take 311 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 3: her another place. Like when you have kids, you kind 312 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 3: of have to think smart. You can't just be like, oh, 313 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 3: I'm going to go with this person and like just 314 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 3: sort it out, sort out the other things, you know. 315 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 3: I really feel like she's going to experience some turmoil 316 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 3: at the end with her final decision or maybe later on. 317 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 4: That's my totally. 318 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask Ashley because for everyone who doesn't know, 319 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: she had kind of one of the worst villains of 320 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: all time. 321 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 4: I would say, the worst villain of all time. Okay, 322 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 4: what would be your. 323 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: Advice to like Bachelorette's Taylor, anyone that was dealing with 324 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: their Bentley? 325 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, how rude of him. 326 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 4: No, he was actually horrific. 327 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: And I think the producers, the fact that they allowed 328 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: that to happen for more than two seconds is horrific. 329 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 3: And I will say that I was dying the idea 330 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 3: that was going on. So when I watched that back, 331 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 3: I was like, what the fuck? But can I tell 332 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 3: you who's done? They tell us something? Tell us the podcast? 333 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 3: You want to tell us? Imber, when it was airing, 334 00:14:58,360 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 3: he texted. 335 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 4: Me, what did he say to you? 336 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 3: I don't know if it was he or a friend, 337 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 3: or he was texting from a friend's phone or something. 338 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 3: And I honestly don't remember what it said, but it 339 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 3: said something along the lines like, hey, I'm sorry, Like, 340 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 3: I'm sorry that it's looking like this. You know some 341 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 3: of this stuff I did say, but some of the 342 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 3: stuff that they're airing that I said about you, I 343 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 3: had said about my ex wife. So he's like, not 344 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 3: everything is as it seems. That's what the message was, 345 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 3: and I remember getting anything like did you text him back? 346 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: Though? 347 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 2: No, no, no, I do not accept that. Apologies, I 348 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 2: do not. 349 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 3: The book I did, I don't remember. 350 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 2: It was so much never crazy. 351 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: There was a scene where, first of all, they put 352 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: you on a road state, which they should never do 353 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: again in the history of ever. I think first dates 354 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: should be over and finished. Yours was actually horrific. 355 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 2: Actually it was the worst. 356 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 3: It's funny. It's like, I'm not a serious person and 357 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 3: I love like joking around. 358 00:15:57,920 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 4: You were laughing, but I would have. 359 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 3: But you know, I'm going to tell you what happened. 360 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you what happened. When people roast you, 361 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 3: like you can take it until they hit on something 362 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 3: you're sensitive about, right, Like, that's when it hits. So 363 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 3: for me going on, when they asked me to be 364 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 3: the Bachelor, I was like, why do they want me? 365 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 3: Like I'm cool, very cool, I'm a little cute, but 366 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 3: not like I wouldn't say, I'm like, oh wow, I'm 367 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 3: so beautiful. 368 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 4: You're stunning first of all, and I yes, look. 369 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 3: At you, Look at that face of yours. I just 370 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 3: want to season. But I'm saying as like I didn't 371 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 3: understand why they wanted me. So I went in with 372 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 3: that insecurity, like why did they pick me? Am I 373 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 3: worthy of this? 374 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: You know? 375 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 3: And then like there was like a little bit I 376 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 3: remember hearing from like some of the other bachelottes on 377 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 3: my season, like kind of like with some grumblings like 378 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 3: why did they pick her? Type of thing. So I 379 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 3: had that insecurity. So then when we went on to 380 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 3: the Rose, it's when they hit that spot for me. 381 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 3: That's when I was like, Oh, that sucks. Like I 382 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 3: can take anything else, you can say anything else about me, 383 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 3: I really don't care. But they hit that sauce spot. 384 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 3: So I think that's what that's what happened. But why 385 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 3: would they do Bacheorette Like we're working on to the power, 386 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 3: but this is what this is kind of what bothers 387 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 3: me is like we're giving women the power when we're 388 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 3: bringing a bacherette on, We're putting a woman on a 389 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 3: pedestal allowing them to make decisions. I'm not going to 390 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 3: go back into history and talk about women's you know whatever. Yeah, 391 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 3: that that's a whole other podcast. But then they put 392 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 3: they bring me on, and I find there's so many 393 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 3: instances that harped in on my insecurities and like looking 394 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 3: back and like it feels someone did this on purpose, 395 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 3: like to create something. Right, Why would they put they're 396 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,199 Speaker 3: bringing a woman in, Why would they put them on 397 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 3: a roast stage and like give opportunity to like tear 398 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 3: a woman down. I don't know, there's part of me 399 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 3: that felt really uncomfy with that. I mean, I could 400 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:50,719 Speaker 3: talk a little more about it, but I don't want 401 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 3: to bore you guys. 402 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 2: But no, we's because we are I think we were 403 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,360 Speaker 2: all shocked in that moment. Yes, Also we were really 404 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 2: shocked when we were seeing all the itms with Bentley 405 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 2: and how he was like playing this chess game with you. 406 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 2: This is what I'm going to do today to make 407 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:07,719 Speaker 2: her feel like this about me, and this is what 408 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 2: I'm gonna do. Like why would producers allow him to 409 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 2: keep doing that? I could see, Okay, we need a 410 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 2: little shock value, we are making a show. But it 411 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 2: went on for so incredibly long, like I was like, stop, 412 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 2: somebody stop him. 413 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. So the one thing I will say, just in 414 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 3: their defense, is like it felt like a long time 415 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 3: because of the episodes, but honestly, this whole thing went 416 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 3: on for less than a week, Like from okay, from 417 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 3: like the drama to him leaving. It didn't last very 418 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 3: long like in real world, but still but still, yes, 419 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 3: if I saw somebody kind of like being manipulative, I'd 420 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 3: be like, bute, Yeah, you know, totally. 421 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: I do feel like they did, or at least on 422 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: your season. You also had that extra bit of someone 423 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 1: coming back and pining for you. And I wish Charity 424 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: was here because she had a similar experience we didn't. 425 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 4: Didn't you have Ryan come back? Ryan is? 426 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: Oh? 427 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 3: Is Ryan blonde? 428 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 2: You tell me? 429 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 3: Can I look it up here? Yeah? The blonde cute guy. Yeah, 430 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 3: Hold on a second, Ashley Hebert. 431 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 4: Wait not acually this right, I'm just trying to Ryan 432 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 4: he came back? He did. So you had a lot 433 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 4: just going on with your mind. 434 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I think people don't understand when you're in 435 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 1: that environment, it is so difficult to know what's real, 436 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: what's not, how to make a decision. 437 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 4: How were you able to navigate that? 438 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 3: I mean, I think that's a good question. I like 439 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 3: to think that I'm a good reader of people, like 440 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 3: I think that I was just born that way. So 441 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 3: I feel like that helped me get to some really 442 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 3: good guys in the end, like, I still feel like 443 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 3: the decisions I made, Like I ended up with two 444 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 3: really authentic people. To this day, I'll still say they're 445 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 3: really authentic, and even all my friends my life, like 446 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 3: I'm not like a bullshitter, Like I'm like, if you 447 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 3: give me any bad vibe, beep, Like I only keep 448 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 3: really authentic people in my life, And I think that 449 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 3: really helped me going through the process and making my decisions. 450 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 2: So yeah, what was what was your favorite part about 451 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 2: being League? Was it the travel or the great guys 452 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 2: you met, or the friends you made in the long run, 453 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 2: what was your favorite thing? 454 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 3: You know, I came from a small town, right, so 455 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 3: I'm like small town, five thousand people in my town 456 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 3: growing up, I think sometimes you feel like like you're 457 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,479 Speaker 3: forgotten when you're when you're from like a really small area. 458 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 3: So I feel like for me, it was like, wow, 459 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 3: I feel like an actual person, right, Like I'm recognizable. 460 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 3: So there was part of it that was like the 461 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 3: excitement of feeling not lost in the land of you know, 462 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 3: cows and potato fields like that was very exciting to me. 463 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 3: And then just being able obviously to travel the world 464 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 3: like that was amazing meet so many great people have 465 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 3: great life experiences. That's what life is about, right, waking 466 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 3: up every day and making the best of what you have. 467 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 3: And to me, that was just it just added to 468 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 3: my life and it just made it more beautiful, opened 469 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 3: up opportunity for me to just become the person that 470 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 3: I was destined to be. Like, I truly feel like 471 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 3: being on the bachelort was part of that for me. 472 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 2: Came into your own Yeah, discovered who you were. 473 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 3: Feel confident in you know, how I feel my beliefs 474 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 3: and where I'm from, Like I don't know. I feel 475 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 3: like it really helped me navigate who. 476 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 2: It's funny the way you described that. So I came 477 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 2: on off of the Golden bacher to the Bachelorette, and 478 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 2: I said when I was leading the mansion, when I left, 479 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 2: when I self eliminated from the Golden Bachler, I said, 480 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 2: as you get older, you start to feel invisible. And 481 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,199 Speaker 2: it's so funny that you're talking to touching on the 482 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 2: same thing. Like I felt really invisible in my life. 483 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 2: I felt like people just notice me, and like, not 484 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 2: that I deserve to be noticed, but I just don't 485 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 2: want to be invisible. I don't want to walk into 486 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 2: like I would walk up to a host to stand 487 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 2: and there'd be five other people standing there and they'd 488 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 2: help everybody else before me. I just felt like as 489 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 2: you get older, they started to ignore you. So the 490 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 2: fact that you're saying that you felt that same way 491 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 2: just coming from a small town is like really interesting 492 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 2: that you know, it's not maybe, you know, just an 493 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 2: age thing that I was feeling. Maybe it's just other 494 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 2: people in the world are feeling the same way, and 495 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,479 Speaker 2: like that we need to choose not to accept that. 496 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 2: Like we can make a difference, and like you did 497 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 2: and I did, but everybody needs to. We did it 498 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 2: by coming on a big TV show, but no one 499 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 2: should accept feeling invisible or not important. 500 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 3: I totally agree with you, and you know, I remember 501 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 3: that you said that, and that really hit me when 502 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 3: you said that, you know, because I have people in 503 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 3: my life that are getting older and like they'll make 504 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 3: you know, they'll also you know, have that same sentiment 505 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 3: like feeling nobody looks at them, nobody cares about them. 506 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 3: Like when women, it's like it changes. I don't know, 507 00:22:58,160 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 3: it's very odd. 508 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 2: We don't know what's happening until it's happened, and you're like, 509 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 2: when did that happen? Like it's very weird. So but 510 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 2: I think it's the thing that we accept it and 511 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 2: we just have to not accept it. But you don't 512 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 2: know that until you do something big and you become 513 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 2: less invisible, right, So you know, it's funny that we 514 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 2: have like would you do it again? 515 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 3: Would you go on the Bacheorette again? 516 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 4: Would you? 517 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: Yes? 518 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 4: Or she would? 519 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,199 Speaker 3: I would because of what I just told you, Ye, 520 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 3: it made it really helps guide you in your path 521 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 3: and your life, and it can open up opportunities, whether 522 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 3: it's relationship opportunities, life opportunities, opportunities for you to grow 523 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 3: in yourself. Like I feel like it was such an 524 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 3: like take that opportunity, everybody. Just take it. Close your 525 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 3: eyes and go try to think. Yeah. 526 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like it gave you a confidence that 527 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 2: you didn't have because you were in this small atmosphere 528 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 2: and you experienced a bigger life and you have confidence 529 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 2: now in that bigger world. Yes. 530 00:23:56,000 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 5: Absolutely, it's amazing too to hear you talk about how 531 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 5: grateful you are for the experience. 532 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 1: I think me and Joan completely feel the same way. 533 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 1: And I just want to say I'm pushing for Ashley 534 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: two point zero. But if you were to come back, 535 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 1: there's been so much change happening in the franchise, right, 536 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: like we have Taylor, what would you bring back from 537 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: your season into a new era? 538 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 3: What would I bring back? Well, definitely something I wouldn't 539 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 3: bring is insecurity, right because I feel like a part 540 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 3: of me like I was young in experience, So if 541 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 3: I were to bring something back, it would just be 542 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 3: like woman power, love that woman power, and much more 543 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 3: security in myself. 544 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 1: Right. 545 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,239 Speaker 3: I was a young person and I feel like there 546 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 3: were so many moments of insecurity that I just don't 547 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 3: feel anymore, which is great new perspective, just like Taylor, 548 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 3: I have kids now, I have a career, so many 549 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 3: things going on, and also just a new idea for 550 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 3: what I would want in a relationship, right, Like when 551 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 3: you're younger, you want a certain thing. When you get 552 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 3: older and you realize relationships like the challenges in relationships 553 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 3: and marriages and roles in a relationship, roles in marriages, 554 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 3: like I just feel like coming in, I want something 555 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 3: completely different from what I used to have. So so 556 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 3: maybe that's a little too deep or I just know 557 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 3: fun Oh no, no, no. 558 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 2: Lot in the City, Yes, Like that's certainly what you 559 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 2: would bring. I do wonder though, like, how do you 560 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 2: feel about the direction Bachelor Nation has taken by bringing 561 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 2: giving this lead to somebody who's not like innocent and 562 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 2: not like perfect, Like we all tried to be not 563 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 2: part of the franchise and not part of it. Never 564 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 2: had been on the on a Bachelors season before. Like, 565 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 2: she's just something really new and fresh and very very different. 566 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 2: But it's certainly very it strays really far from what 567 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 2: we've ever done before. What do you think about that? 568 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 3: I mean if I'm surprised that they did bring her 569 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 3: in because I thought it was always going to stay 570 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 3: in the family. But I also think sometimes you've got 571 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,239 Speaker 3: to shake things up, right, You got to shake things up, 572 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 3: try new things and see what sticks. And I also think, listen, 573 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 3: I'm all about everyone makes mistakes. We learn as we go, 574 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 3: but I think everybody deserves a second chance, right like 575 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 3: you all. If we all reflect back in our lives, 576 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 3: we can pick something out. Shit, I shouldn't have done that. 577 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 2: Oh of course. 578 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 3: I'm ashamed of this. We all have something right. So 579 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:35,719 Speaker 3: hers is just maybe televised, maybe everybody knows about it, 580 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 3: and so I think it's I think it's a good 581 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:39,959 Speaker 3: I think it's a good thing to bring her back, right, 582 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 3: give someone a second chance. No one's perfect. I'm excited 583 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 3: about it. 584 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 2: Do you think that at all that like the fact 585 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 2: that she is kind of flawed like we all are, 586 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 2: but we don't like have it out there in the 587 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 2: public eye. She's kind of flawed. So do you think 588 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 2: maybe the guys will allow us to see their flaws 589 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 2: and maybe be really more real. 590 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think that sometimes when we see 591 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 3: a bachelot, I think, oh my gosh, it's that perfect 592 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 3: little angel, right, so pretty every day. I think it's 593 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 3: good to have someone flawed, so then you can feel 594 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:16,679 Speaker 3: more more first off, and you know someone's flaws, I 595 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 3: feel like you are immediately closer to them, right, like 596 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 3: you know a party agree that other people don't know. 597 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 3: And I think that could even bring people closer. And 598 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 3: you know what, everybody on that show has done something 599 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 3: that they like, we're talking about regret, and I think 600 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 3: that it's okay to not be perfect. And I think 601 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 3: that's a great I think that's a great message, right, 602 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 3: so the guys can know, listen, no one's perfect. We've 603 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 3: all done things, and I think it's setting a great 604 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 3: example for honesty and relationships. 605 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. I always teld my kids that I'm like, people 606 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 2: like the laud you way better than the perfect que. 607 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 2: Perfect ue is really intimidating to be the flawed person 608 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 2: that you are and like people will like you a 609 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 2: lot better. 610 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 4: Totally. 611 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,640 Speaker 1: I want to also ask, because we talked about back 612 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: when we are like discussing the roast, you had mentioned 613 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 1: that one of your insecurities was, like, you know, having 614 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: gone through the Bachelorette and not being chosen. 615 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 4: I had something so similar. 616 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: I think it's been a pattern for a Bachelor Nation 617 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,400 Speaker 1: to pick someone from the previous season. I think when 618 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: I went into the Bachelorette, it was so nice that 619 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:17,919 Speaker 1: I could look at the men and be like, I 620 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 1: know where like you're coming from. I feel the same 621 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: way when you sent them home, especially like later you 622 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: knew how like bad it felt. 623 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 4: Taylor's not going to have that. 624 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: How do you think that's going to affect the way 625 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 1: she sends men home who she chooses. 626 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true, because when you're going in, you already 627 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 3: have experience doing it, so you feel like a little 628 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 3: more empathy. I don't think she has natural built and 629 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 3: empathy in her heart. That's what I feel when I 630 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 3: met her. So I actually think even though she doesn't 631 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 3: have the experience, I think that she still will manage 632 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 3: it properly just because of her innate empathy. That's what 633 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 3: I think. I mean, I met her for a short 634 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 3: period of time, but from my read on her is 635 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 3: like she has a heart. 636 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 2: So, yeah, I agree with you. She's going to be 637 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 2: really hard on him, and she's also going to be 638 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 2: really empathetic, like she's gonna expect a lot from them, 639 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 2: but she's going to really like like you said, she 640 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 2: has a big heart. 641 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. I don't think she'll have any problems. 642 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, Ashley, Well, I was gonna say, what's some life updates? 643 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: Give us the te tell us everything for the viewers, 644 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 1: for everyone that doesn't know. 645 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 4: You have two beautiful children. Tell us all about them. 646 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 3: You're the best. So I have two kids, Ford and Si. 647 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 3: Ford's eleven. He's a handful. He's like so cares. He's 648 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 3: just like JP. He is cly JP super charismatic. Sorry JP. 649 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 3: He and are friends, so I can say this, he's 650 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 3: a handful, just. 651 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 2: Like he's dad. 652 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 3: And my daughter he plays basketball, baseball. He's a very 653 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 3: active kid, very I don't know, he's a yeah, he's 654 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 3: a handful. And then my daughter, Essie is she's really 655 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 3: kind of like me, kind of more easy going, I 656 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 3: would say, follows the rules, rule follower, emotionally, very intelligent 657 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 3: for someone that young. She's nine years old and she 658 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 3: can read people like that just she was born with 659 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 3: I think she's becoming a really great soccer player. And honestly, 660 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 3: it's like, this is what my life is. It's just work, 661 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 3: waking up, making them, you know, healthy breakfast, getting everybody 662 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 3: a great start to the day, trying to inspire them 663 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 3: to do good things school, and then all the activities. Guys, 664 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 3: we got the big basketball, soccer, soccer wreck team. We 665 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 3: got to go to Orlando this weekend. Literally my life 666 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 3: is running around and just trying to optimize their life, 667 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 3: which makes me so happy because that's yeah, I'm. 668 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 2: In I loved, I have four kids. I love. That's 669 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 2: the happiest time in my life. Look back at it, 670 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 2: it's like a little bit of a blurb. When it 671 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 2: was happening, I was like, Wow, I got so much 672 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 2: to do. How am I going to get this done? 673 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 2: But I look back, and I'm. 674 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 3: Like, I was so happy. Yes, they read a lot, 675 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 3: they play sports, they very active, they eat healthy for 676 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 3: the most part. Everything is like honestly perfect beauty. 677 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 2: It sounds like I know, it sounds like it's all 678 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 2: kind of revolving around your kids. 679 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 3: Did you ever. 680 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 4: Recognize Oh wait, yeah, Joan. 681 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: And then I want to ask, do the moms that 682 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 1: soccer practice of a fangirl? 683 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 4: Do they recognize you? 684 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 2: Got it? 685 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 3: So here's the beauty about Miami's and not a lot 686 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 3: of people know who we are. 687 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: Really if my mother saw you game over, my moms 688 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: don't recognize. 689 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 3: I have no idea, and you look exactly the same. 690 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 2: Oh you really do. You're gonna change, Charlie at all. 691 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 2: That is so true? 692 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 3: Are so sweet? Yeah, they don't know. Miami is like 693 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 3: it's a different beast down here, Like it's not if 694 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 3: I will get in LA New York like any of 695 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 3: the major cities, of course they know us. But here 696 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 3: we're kind of in called needle, which is really nice. 697 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is true. I mean, Rachel, you're in in LA, 698 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 2: so probably everybody recognizes you. I get recognized in LA, 699 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 2: I get recognized in New York and I get recognized 700 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 2: in my own hometown, but like in general, like I'm 701 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 2: here in Pintagon and no one has like I think 702 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 2: like three people have asked to take pictures of me. 703 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 2: So it's like you're definitely in certain places. You're right, 704 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 2: you get recognized a lot more. But it sounds like 705 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 2: your kind of world revolves around your kids. Do you 706 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 2: have anything like you oriented, like anything that's great to 707 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 2: have me in your life. 708 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 3: That's a good question. So I'm a pediatric dentist, So 709 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 3: I have my own pediatric dental office and it's booming, 710 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 3: it's growing. We're four and a half years old. I 711 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 3: put all of my time. 712 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 4: To that congratulation. 713 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 2: Thank you. It's access. 714 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 3: I feel like I'm ready to retire soon though, but 715 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 3: almost fifteen years that's a long time. 716 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 1: Wow. 717 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, So a lot of my life revolves around, you know, 718 00:32:55,320 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 3: my work, my patients, my staff, my kids, my kids, activities, 719 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 3: things that I enjoy doing. I really love to travel, 720 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 3: so whenever I have the opportunity, I'll definitely do that. 721 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 3: And then I like love to dance, so I do 722 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 3: a dance plast week just for fun, nothing crazy, just 723 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 3: like good exercise, good and then I hang out with 724 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 3: my girls, you know everything we go to corfriend top girlfriends. Like, 725 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 3: that's what my life is about, just authentic doing the 726 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 3: best that I can to raise my kids in a 727 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 3: great environment and give them opportunities for success and kind 728 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 3: of like a launching pad for you know, doing great things. 729 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 2: Sounds like you have a full life. 730 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: I know I was gonna say, such a beautiful life, 731 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 1: and you're just such a beautiful person. 732 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,239 Speaker 4: And I think I can speak for all of us 733 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 4: that were so happy for you. 734 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 2: That is true. You were talking about traveling a little bit. 735 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 2: How was your big family vacation with JP this past summer? 736 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 2: And do you have any advice you would give somebody 737 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 2: that is going through like a co parenting journey, and like, 738 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 2: what is like the smartest thing you do? Can you 739 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 2: do to make co parenting so good like you guys 740 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 2: are doing. 741 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 3: I'm not good at a lot of things, but I'm 742 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 3: really good at the co parenting thing. We both are 743 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 3: very good at the co parenting thing. And if anybody 744 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 3: needs any advice, contact me personally. 745 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 2: But honest, that's nice of you. 746 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 3: No, it's true because because I care about kids and 747 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 3: I see so many kids suffering from you know hard 748 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 3: divances and it breaks my heart and we see it 749 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,879 Speaker 3: here in Miami all the time. But what I can 750 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 3: tell you you only need to know one thing when 751 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 3: you're going through a divorce. And it sounds so easy. 752 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 3: You're going to say, actually everybody knows that. But when 753 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 3: you're making decisions, all you have to do is remember 754 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 3: this one thing. Always do it's best for the kids. 755 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,760 Speaker 3: If you want to say something negative about your ex 756 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 3: in front of your kids, stop, Always do it's best 757 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 3: for the kids. Is this the best for the kids? No, 758 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 3: it's not. That's absolutely not the best for the kids, right, 759 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 3: So you don't do it. So whenever you're in a 760 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,760 Speaker 3: situation where you feel like you want to do something, 761 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,280 Speaker 3: always ask yourself what is the best thing for my kids. 762 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 3: You want to have your kids to do, you want 763 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,280 Speaker 3: to have them full time, but is that the best 764 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 3: for the kids? Right? Depending on the situation, most kids 765 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 3: benefit from a fifty to fifty yeah both parents, so 766 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 3: you want that full custody, But ask yourself what is 767 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,839 Speaker 3: best for the kids. And I really think that's all 768 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,839 Speaker 3: you need when you go through a divorce. Well, if 769 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 3: you have kids. If you don't have kids, then. 770 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 2: It's a different world, totally different world, right, right, right, 771 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 2: But that's about the coparaging. 772 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, one thing, JP and I are really really good 773 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 3: as we both always put the kids first no matter 774 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:42,399 Speaker 3: how we feel about anything, So that's really good. Yeah, 775 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 3: but divorce is challenging. It's so multi layered and complex 776 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 3: and it can affect kids in so many ways and 777 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,880 Speaker 3: it breaks my heart. And I'm so happy that my 778 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 3: kids have been able to be role models for other 779 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,720 Speaker 3: kids in their community. And you know, we got divorced 780 00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 3: a long time ago. Most kids are their parents are 781 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 3: going through divorces now. So I feel like knowing that 782 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 3: Ford and Sse have gone through it, some kids have 783 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,359 Speaker 3: a child to rely on and to feel like they're 784 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 3: now I think, you know, I'm grateful that they've been 785 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,360 Speaker 3: very mature in that in the whole process and have 786 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 3: really handled it with such grace for such young kids. 787 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean that's thanks to you and you're 788 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 2: great parenting because not everybody has the chance to do that. 789 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,880 Speaker 2: And that they still feel secure and that their world 790 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 2: is not falling apart, that they have two parents who 791 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 2: still love them even though they live in different houses 792 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 2: is really all it is. 793 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I wanted to thank you yeah for sharing, 794 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 1: because I'm sure there are so many people that go 795 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,240 Speaker 1: through this and you and JP just handle it so fantastically, 796 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,840 Speaker 1: So I just wanted to give you your flowers. 797 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 3: Thank you well, You're the best. 798 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining us today. This was 799 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,799 Speaker 2: such a treat and hopefully we can do it again, 800 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 2: and this time next time, I know Cherry will be here, 801 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 2: won't be me, So I'm just going to do a 802 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 2: big kiss to you. And I'm so privileged that I 803 00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 2: got to be the one here today. 804 00:36:58,560 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 4: Thank you so much, Ashley. 805 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:01,840 Speaker 3: Let's do another one with charity. 806 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 4: No we need charity. Will not let this one go. 807 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 1: You'll have to come back soon because she is so jealous, 808 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 1: So go grab your kids. 809 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 4: Thank you everyone for listening. Thank you so much Ashley. 810 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 4: Make sure you subscribe and stay tuned for more interviews 811 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 4: with more iconic bachelorettes like Ashley. 812 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 3: Thank you all, thank you, thank you, thank you. Bye.