1 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: At least is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of the 3 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 4 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 2: And we are back. 5 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 3: I am Dale LOLLI he is the Matt Williamson and 6 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 3: well Matt at this time for a little fantasy football focus. 7 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 2: Yeah. 8 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll do this a little you know, I mean 9 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 3: do this for this week's games a little bit differently. 10 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 3: We usually on Wednesdays go through the injury reports and stuff. 11 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 3: Part of the injury reports this week, even if you're 12 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 3: not doing any fantasy stuff, is who's playing and who's not, and. 13 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 2: Who has something to play for and who's to sit 14 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 2: down And it's a hard thing to figure out. 15 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 3: There's a lot of news with that. But before we 16 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 3: get into that. According to Yahoo Sport, fantasy sports are 17 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 3: one of the big hosting platforms. The five players who 18 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 3: are on the most championship teams. Okay that you if 19 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 3: you won your championship this week, these are the guys 20 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 3: that got you the championship. 21 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 2: So these are guys that we talked about the soft 22 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 2: year is why make it clear because they were actually 23 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 2: in your lineup on champing. 24 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 3: The guys who were in championship lineups. 25 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 2: Because ESPN used to do it. Where who are the 26 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 2: most ones that took you to the championship, the eleventh 27 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 2: round pick that ended up hitting big, you know Lamar's 28 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: rookie year, that kind of those type of ones, which 29 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 2: is a different conversation. 30 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, So in this week, it was starting from the 31 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 3: bottom up. If you had Adam Thielen. 32 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 2: In your lineup. 33 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 3: Sixty eight point two to two percent of their championship 34 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 3: winners had Adam Thielen in their sixty nine percent of 35 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 3: their champions had Joe Burrow in the lineup. 36 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 2: Bengals were strong. 37 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 3: Uh, seventy point seven percent seventy point oh seven percent, 38 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,639 Speaker 3: I should say, had lab McConkey in the lineup. Okay, 39 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 3: seventy three point one nine percent of winning lineups had 40 00:01:56,240 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 3: lak neighbors met in the line and six point eight 41 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 3: three percent had T Higgins. 42 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 2: Sure, including me. Yeah, three touchdowns. 43 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 3: Three touchdowns, So if you look at it that way, 44 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 3: four receivers in the top five and a quarterback, yeah, 45 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 3: and a quarterback means a lot of people had multiple 46 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 3: of those guys. Oh yeah, you were, you were winning 47 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 3: your championship. You have T Higgins and Molak Neighbors in 48 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 3: your lineup. You were walking away with the championship. 49 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 2: And you might have picked Feeling up off of waivers, right, 50 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 2: I mean, so it'd be different, and it could be 51 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 2: the case. It could be Chase and Jefferson where they 52 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 2: had the best two but he didn't know team has both, right, 53 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:41,959 Speaker 2: you know, where some team might have had all five 54 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 2: of those. I mean, it's possible, possible you could have 55 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 2: drafted all five and picked up all five. They're not 56 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 2: super expensive on draft days. 57 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 3: And mcconkee, you know, was a late draft pick, late 58 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 3: late ish, I should say it was certainly later than 59 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 3: Higgins or Neighbors. Oh yeah, you know, in fact of 60 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 3: that group, I mean, to your point, theling was probably 61 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 3: Undre didn't. 62 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 2: One draft in a lot of leagues or not picked 63 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 2: up for a while. Yeah, right. Didn't he have injuries 64 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 2: early on too? Yeah? Yeah, so they probably was. 65 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 3: He was coming off of one hundred catch season last year. 66 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 2: But and then their offense was so bad everybody cut 67 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 2: off it. Yeah. Yeah, I am interested in the other 68 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 2: side of it too, though, Like if you drafted that 69 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 2: guy at his ADP, wow, I was at a home run, 70 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 2: you know what. I mean like these are you had 71 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 2: him at the right time. 72 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 3: If we go back and look at just the draft 73 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 3: from our league and look at some of the values, yeah. 74 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 2: I always go back to Lamar's rookie year. Oh yeah, 75 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 2: actually it was a second second was insane, got my 76 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 2: home second year was yeah. Yeah, you got those guys 77 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 2: like after round ten, they can be any good or not. 78 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 2: Not sure, you know, I haven't seen a lot from 79 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 2: him yet, you know. 80 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just looking here late round draft picks around sixteen. 81 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 3: I say, look at the that was all kickers. Yeah, 82 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 3: got drafted in the sixteenth round. That was okay, But 83 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 3: he's got lea winner, not a league winner. 84 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 2: And all those guys get cut of course of the 85 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 2: course of the year. Bucky Irving in round fat that's 86 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 2: a league winner. Yeah, that's a league winner. Yeah, like 87 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 2: people talk about, oh, this guy could win you the league. 88 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 2: Drafting Bucky Irving the fifteen round. 89 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 3: That pretty good league, Yeah, pretty good. 90 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 2: Only problem with those guys is whoever that owner was, 91 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 2: probably was a week or two too late to put 92 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 2: him in the lineup. But once you did what you 93 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 2: did right your team. 94 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 3: On the other hand, he took Jordan Mason early yeah, 95 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 3: in the sixteenth, in the fifteenth round. This we did 96 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 3: our draft before the McCaffrey. 97 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 2: News came out. Yeah, I just remind you rode him 98 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 2: early in the season. I thought McCaffrey is gonna be 99 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 2: the one. Yeah, right, but I got four or five 100 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 2: good weeks out of him before you get hurt. Yeah, 101 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 2: for a sixteenth thrownd pick. 102 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 3: Looking here in round fourteen, Rico dal Dell went in 103 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 3: round fourteen. 104 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 2: That's huge. Yeah. He was big for me to get 105 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 2: to the finals because he was a throw and in 106 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 2: the most recent trade I made and he wasn't great. 107 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 2: I just was like, I need a run back back. 108 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 2: Just give me your worst running back, and that's who 109 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 2: we decided on. But then he took. 110 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 3: Off Baker Mayfield in round thirteen. 111 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 2: You'll take that all day long. But that was also 112 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 2: the guy. 113 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 3: Who had Lamar Jackson, so he started Baker Mayfield once, Yeah, 114 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 3: but held on to him all year. 115 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 2: Would have traded him, I'll say, if you had traded 116 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 2: Lamar for neighbors, yeah, or you know or somebody like that, 117 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 2: you know, some star receiver running back would have been 118 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 2: fair value. 119 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 3: That guy's not bright enough to do that. Looking here 120 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 3: in round twelve. Jared Goff went round twelve. Yeah, got cut. 121 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 2: I picked him up. 122 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you picked him up. Darnell Mooney in round twelve. 123 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 3: That's a nice One's a nice pick up. He's another one. 124 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 3: Takes a while til you start starting him and trusting him. Yeah, 125 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 3: but yeah, for that investment, it's great. 126 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 1: Uh. 127 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 2: Let's see here, the mid rounds might even be more loaded. 128 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 3: Jamison Williams in round eleven. 129 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 2: I he solid pick. Yeah, a solid pick. Uctually after 130 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 2: last night, I mean he keeps stepping up more or more. 131 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 3: Round ten, I got Brock Bowers. 132 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 2: That's that's a league winner. Yeah, that's yeah, that's right there. 133 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 2: That's a that's a pretty good one. Uh. 134 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 3: Thelm went in that round. Actually in our draft, he 135 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 3: didn't get held onto as mconkee Really okay, how about 136 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 3: that those teams? Yeah, the Mconukee team, I think he's 137 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 3: stuck with him all season long. Theland got cut. 138 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think mconkey in most leagues got cut, 139 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 2: but thelan probably did. There was some down times early 140 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 2: in the season for the Panthers and feeling. Yeah, the 141 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 2: Bower is a perfect example. I mean he stayed healthy 142 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 2: the whole year. So many tight endingies back and forth, 143 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 2: you know, and he'll probably be tight end one next year. 144 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 3: Chase Brown went round nine. 145 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 2: That's huge, that's a good, good Pickture then traded him. 146 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 3: Jerry Judy got taken him round ten, but then cut 147 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 3: around nine and then cut, I should. 148 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 2: Say, because he needed Winston to be worth it. Yeah, 149 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 2: I mean his whole season is the Winston stint. 150 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 3: Brian Thomas in round nine. 151 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 2: No, now you're talking. Yeah, now you're talking. Now, we're 152 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 2: getting some every week starting receiver wide receiver one or 153 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 2: two in the ninth round. 154 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, for a large portion of the season. Brian Robinson 155 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 3: in a round eight was pretty darn solid. 156 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 2: Again, you start him every week? Yeah. 157 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 3: I got Jackson Smith and Jigba in round eight. 158 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 2: That's absolutely qualifies. I think he'll be like a third 159 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 2: rounder next year. 160 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 3: Courtland Sutton went in round the eight. That's cool, it's 161 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 3: a solid Yeah. 162 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 163 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 3: Jordan Addison in round eight that was pretty good too. 164 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 3: Round seven. George Kittle, Yeah, long long after many of 165 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 3: the other tight ends have been taking a. 166 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 2: Knock on him. Just so many mouths to feed there, 167 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 2: I think. I think so it's a little bit. Yeah, 168 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 2: it seems dumb though, but I guess I wasn't there 169 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 2: all year. 170 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 3: And you know, Terry McLaurin went round seven. Yeah, that's pretty. 171 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,119 Speaker 2: Solid, A really good year. A little quiet lately. 172 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 3: But David Montgomery went round seven, one pick before I was. 173 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 2: Gonna take him. 174 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 3: You took Jayden Daniels in round seven. 175 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 2: That was my league best pick probably, yeah, right, because 176 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 2: he was my first quarterback taken. I think from what I. 177 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 3: Remember, Tony Pollard went round seven, one pick ahead of 178 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 3: ty J. 179 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 2: Spears. Hmm. I do remember even on my running back list, 180 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 2: I had them like right next to each other. Yeah, 181 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 2: how is this going to shake out? 182 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 3: And then Chris Godwin in round seven. 183 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 2: It was awesome until you got hurt till he got hurt. 184 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 3: And David and Joku in around seven, which once Winston 185 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 3: got in there, and then that round six up you're 186 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 3: looking at. 187 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's more bus at that point. Yeah, 188 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 2: just curious who were like the first round Bus McCaffrey's the. 189 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 3: Biggest first McCaffrey. Bryce Hall went second. 190 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 2: Which is okay, but he won't be in the top 191 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 2: five next year. 192 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 3: No, Ceedee Lamb went third. 193 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 2: His stock won't fall much though. 194 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 3: No, you know Tyreek Hill went fourth. 195 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 2: Where do you think he goes next year? Probably not 196 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 2: in the first. 197 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 3: Round, second round probably yeah, yeah, uh. But Jean Robinson 198 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 3: went five. 199 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 2: He might be one or two next year. 200 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 3: Amn, Ross Saint Brown went six. His stock hasn't changed, 201 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 3: justin Jefferson went seven. 202 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 2: To me because he had a little bit issues at 203 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 2: the time. Yeah, quarterback stuff. Jamar Chase went eight to 204 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 2: top two receivers. Jonathan Taylor went nine. I think he's 205 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 2: a first rounder next year, probably probably at the end. Yeah, 206 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:10,719 Speaker 2: But like I say, Gibbs ahead of him, who we 207 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 2: haven't mentioned, probably. 208 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 3: Henry Garrett Wilson went ten. What the thing about him? 209 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 3: And you don't have no idea what the quarterback situation is. 210 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 3: Jamir Gibbs went eleven. 211 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 2: He'll go up, he'll be higher than that next year. 212 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 2: And then Kyron Williams went twelve. Do you think he 213 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 2: goes right in that neighborhood? That first round is not 214 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 2: as busty as I thought. 215 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 3: No, No, I mean the guys you kill and lamb 216 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 3: or actually the top part of the round was where 217 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 3: most of your bus were at. 218 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 2: I mean everyone on the planet took McCaffrey one. Yeah, 219 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 2: no one, No one knew the information, so that that 220 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 2: one's almost like an asterisk by it. 221 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 3: In round two, Isaiah Pacheco was thirteen. 222 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 2: I don't think we'll go in the top fifteen now 223 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 2: A J. 224 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 3: Brown went thirteen or fourteen. I should say Sae Kwon. 225 00:09:55,960 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 2: Barkley, he'll be top two or three. Pooka the Khua. 226 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 2: I think he's higher than next year than this year. 227 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 3: Devin Chan probably higher. You took a chance. I took 228 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 3: Drake London. 229 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 2: I think London goes right about there. Again, it's pretty 230 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 2: solid year solid, Yeah, yeah, really good. 231 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 3: Travis at n Then when that one, that one hurt. 232 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 2: Uh. 233 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 3: Then Derrick Henry went that's why tre a ten and 234 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:22,959 Speaker 3: really hurt because at M was the next pick or 235 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 3: Henry was the next pick. Marvin Harrison Junior. 236 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yuck. Cooper Cup. 237 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 3: Not in the second round, yeah, DeVante Adams, you struggle. 238 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 2: Up and down. Yeah, it was a roller coaster. 239 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,079 Speaker 3: And then Rashad White was the last pick of the 240 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 3: second round. 241 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 2: Nobody saw Bucky Irving coming. Yeah. It wasn't as busty 242 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 2: in the top twenty five as I thought, but there's 243 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 2: a lot of change. It's also not a massive group 244 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,839 Speaker 2: of injuries either. Yeah, those swings. Some years of running 245 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 2: backs just get wiped out by injury. 246 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 3: The third round, you had Michael Pittman, Alvin Kamara, Sam 247 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 3: laporta first tight and uh yeah, I think so. Yeah, 248 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 3: Josh Jacobs, that's nice one. Mike Evans, James Cook. I 249 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 3: took Kryslave. I couldn't believe he was still there. Yeah, 250 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 3: that didn't work out so well. 251 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 2: I was. I think I would have with the next 252 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 2: pick him I have after that. Yeah, you took Jaylen Waddle. 253 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 2: I would have taken a lave over Waddle. Joe Mixon. 254 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 2: Neither worked out really, Yeah, Mixon was worth it. 255 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 3: Brandon Ayuk that's an ouch. Nico Collins great, but well 256 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 3: you miss some time. He'll go much earlier next and 257 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 3: then Kenneth Walker. 258 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 2: Okay. I don't know next year's drafts going to be 259 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 2: drastically different. I mean there's obviously some guys moving up 260 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 2: and down. Yeah, but it's not like, boy, this is 261 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 2: or shattering difference from year to year. 262 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's that's kind of the way it went there. 263 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,439 Speaker 2: And what was the first quarterback taking the next round? Okay, 264 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 2: the next round, Josh Allen and I think hurt No, actually, 265 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 2: Lamar went, Lamar went. I had a Allen Ands. 266 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, Allen was picked to two picks later, and then 267 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 3: Hurts was at the end of that round. And not surprisingly, 268 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,079 Speaker 3: none of those teams, well, the two teams that had 269 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 3: that took Jackson and Allen both made the semi finals 270 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 3: and lost to US. Yeah, with our deeper, more well 271 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 3: constructed units. 272 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 2: Allen was an odd one because there are three of 273 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 2: my Dynasty leagues where I was the biggest point scorer 274 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 2: of all but I lost that round because of course 275 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 2: I started Allen and nearly got like fourteen points, you know, 276 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 2: I mean, like I had some other guys that didn't 277 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 2: do great, But I was clearly the best team in 278 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 2: all three of those leagues and got knocked out the 279 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 2: same round with the number one quarterback in Dynasty. I mean, 280 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 2: that's just kind of how fantasy works. Yeah. 281 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 3: Looking at this week's injury reports, Jake Moody will remain 282 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 3: the forty nine ers kicker in week eighteen. Reason to 283 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 3: change now, Yeah, but Rock Perdy likely to miss eight 284 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 3: week eighteen. Why would he play, right, He's dealing with 285 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 3: the elbow contusion and some nerve inflammation. Yeah, so yeah, 286 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 3: not playing Ezekiel Elliott released. As you mentioned, he got 287 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 3: seventy four whole carries this season. 288 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 2: Uh, not the best movie. 289 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 3: We mentioned when we were going through the Bengals injury report. 290 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 3: Chase Brown a non participant. I'd be shocked if he goes. Yeah, 291 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,839 Speaker 3: by the look of it, Brown wants to play. But right, 292 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 3: he's ten yards short of a thousand. 293 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 2: I get it. That's cool. But if you if you're 294 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 2: a knee shot. 295 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, can you run ahead ten times? Straight ahead ten 296 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 3: times and get your thousand yards? 297 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 2: And I hope they do because that's not exactly that's 298 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 2: not exactly what you want to do games, right. 299 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 3: Xavier Lagett is going to need surgery in the offseason 300 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 3: for his wrist, so. 301 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 2: At least that's something he'll be back from recently quick. 302 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 2: That shouldn't stunt his career too much. Looks like the Rams, 303 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 2: they bring back theling he's a free agent after the year. 304 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 2: Probably they've all those young receivers. I would try to 305 00:13:57,840 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 2: if I were that, Yeah, I would would you consider them? 306 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 2: If you Steelers? That's what everyone's gonna What else is 307 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 2: out there? Yeah? 308 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, Matthew Stafford and the starters may sit in Week eighteen, 309 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,439 Speaker 3: So they could either be they won the division, right, 310 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 3: they've clinched the division title, but they could. 311 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 2: Go to four. Yeah, I would see them too. At 312 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 2: his age, that. 313 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 3: Could get you a matchup with the loser of the 314 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 3: Detroit Minnesota game, right. 315 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 2: As opposed to Packers or whoever is Washington. Yeah, I 316 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 2: guess that's when you go to Stafford and be like, 317 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 2: how you feeling, dude? You want to play or not? 318 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 2: How important is it to you? Yeah? At his age, 319 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 2: he's earned that. 320 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 3: I mentioned the Jannik andckway waved by the Patriots. Uh, 321 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 3: the Browns play finally placed Cedric Tillman on IR That 322 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 3: poor guy. 323 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 2: I mean, that's kind of an underreported. That's been a 324 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 2: concussion for like five weeks. 325 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, that happened against the Steelers the first time. 326 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a long time to be in concussion protocol. 327 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, Daniel Jones could be added to the Vikings fifty 328 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 3: three man roster for Week eighteen. 329 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 2: Okay, so he's gonna be the true backup I guess, Yeah, 330 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 2: makes sense, that's why they picked him up. 331 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 3: Kendre Miller placed in concussion protocol could be Clyde Edwards 332 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 3: Hilaire against the leading the Saints backfield. 333 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 2: Makes you played a fair amount this week. 334 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 3: Aaron Jones, with a quad injury, expected to practice this week. 335 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 2: I would you push him? Yeah, you're gonna push him. 336 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 2: He's gonna play. 337 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 3: Derek Carr will have his hand reevaluated heading into Week eighteen. 338 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I heard that there's actually a legit chance he plays. 339 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 3: Chris Olave with that concussion finally expected to practice this week. 340 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 3: He's been out forever as well. 341 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 2: I wonder if you're him, if he was going to 342 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 2: get one game in post concussion or go out there 343 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 2: and run twenty routes or whatever. Yeah, he's like, we're 344 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 2: they're only foundational pieces. 345 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 3: Jade and Daniels and these starters will play in Week eighteen. 346 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 3: For Washington, what do they have on the line, Just seatings, seating. Yeah, 347 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 3: they could win this sixth seed and face the Rams 348 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 3: instead of the Eagles the wild card round by moving 349 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 3: up a spot. 350 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 2: I guess it's worth it. They the Cowboys, right, Yeah? Yeah. 351 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 3: Jaylen Waddle optimistic for Week eighteen for the Dolphins. 352 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 2: No, they're gonna give it a shot, yeah, and try 353 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 2: to win it. 354 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 3: Bryce Young and the starters will play in Week eighteen 355 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 3: for the Carolina Panthers, no reason not to. 356 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 2: They just keep building on what you're doing. 357 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 3: Josh Allen, and the bill starters will start in Week eighteen, 358 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 3: but be taken out quickly. 359 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 2: That sounds like a series. Yeah, hand it off three times, 360 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 2: and Mitch, you're in a put a baseball cap on. 361 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 3: The Chargers are unsure if they'll play their starters in 362 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 3: Week eighteen, and that might depend on what happens in 363 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 3: the Steeler game. 364 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,479 Speaker 2: Yeah. They have the luxury of knowing more things. 365 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 3: Which is really the league doesn't like to do this. 366 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and it's an almost impossible puzzle to put 367 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 2: together that everyone is fair footing. Yeah, but if the 368 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 2: Steelers are playing when the Chargers are playing, the Chargers 369 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 2: are playing when Steelers are playing, you have an advantage, 370 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 2: right being the Sunday team knowing things. 371 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 3: Here's the thing though, for them, Josh Palmer with the 372 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 3: heel expected to require an ir stint. Oh really, that's 373 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 3: that's bad for them. I was just thinking more along 374 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 3: lines to Herbert. He's had like five. 375 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 2: Different injuries this year, including the Liz Frank which I 376 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 2: bet has never healed. I would love to sit him 377 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 2: if I were. 378 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, Elijah Molden also out for the season for them. 379 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 2: They're starting free safe injuries. 380 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. Justice Hill expected back this week for the Ravens. 381 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 2: Okay, they use him. He's the third done back. 382 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 3: The Chiefs could be getting Jalen Watson back for the postseason. 383 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 2: I don't know much playing time he don't have, but 384 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 2: he makes plays. 385 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 3: Nicole Hardman could return for the postseason. 386 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 2: Would even be active for them, right, They's a lot 387 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 2: of receivers all of a sudden. 388 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 3: Uh to at tag of I Lowe with that hip issue. 389 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 3: His status is uncertain for Week eighteen. That's kind of 390 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 3: a big deal. 391 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 2: It's a huge deal. Huntley wasn't horrible. 392 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, the Big Brown's offense was and that didn't help. 393 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 2: But they might beat the Jets Withtley. 394 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 395 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 2: Now they were asked. 396 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 3: Mike McDaniels was asked if that's the same, if this 397 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 3: is connected to the hip issue that Tago Viloa had 398 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 3: in college. He said, no, this has nothing to do 399 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 3: with with that. 400 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 2: So that's a plus. Unfortunately for that guy. Every injury 401 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 2: this is red flags the lore Yeah. Yeah. Uh. 402 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 3: Caleb Williams and the starters expected to play for the Bears. 403 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 3: In Week eighteam but it's a road game and don't 404 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 3: don't start him on the road in Green Bay. 405 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 2: And a new staff there too, But you want to 406 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 2: play the young guys. Yeah. 407 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 3: Kate Auton status uncertain for Week eighteens, dealing with that 408 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 3: knee injury. 409 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 2: I would think you want to keep him fresh for 410 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 2: the wild I would think so. 411 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. Shaq Mason misspractice on Monday. 412 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 2: Starting guard who, like everyone on that line, is kind 413 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 2: of crumbled but needs to be good. 414 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 3: They did get Juice Scrugs back though, so one out 415 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 3: one back Deontay Johnson practicing on Monday for the Houston Texans. 416 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 2: Would you want to get him fired up in this game, 417 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 2: just to get him in uniform and catch a pass 418 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 2: or two in case you really need. 419 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 3: But if your quarterback doesn't play, it doesn't do you 420 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 3: any good. They're gonna they're gonna rest starters. 421 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 2: I know, he just hasn't played in so long. Yeah, 422 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 2: looks you know the playbook, right, you know, do it 423 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 2: in a stadium as coach. 424 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 3: A couple of last things here, ty J Spears dealing 425 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 3: with a concussion. His status up in the air for 426 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 3: a week eighteen, but Tony Pollard could return. He was 427 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 3: dealing with an illness and an ankle issue last week. 428 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 3: And then the Titans also will play both Mason Rudolfie. 429 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 2: That was in there. I thought that was interesting. It 430 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 2: was both the guys audition a little bit and we'll 431 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 2: see what happened. 432 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 3: See what's when we keep going in the next season. 433 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean for fantasy, I'm not real interested 434 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 2: in any Titan for this week. I wouldn't think. But 435 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 2: now it's been good, really has been good, you know. 436 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 2: But that's weird with the quarterbacks. 437 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, But I don't say it's wrong. 438 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:56,719 Speaker 2: It's just an interesting approach. 439 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the fantasy football focus. Matt and are going 440 00:19:59,920 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 3: to take another break. When we come back. It is 441 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 3: power ranking day. Let's go through those and see who 442 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 3: we think should be up, who we think should be down. 443 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 2: Right after this. 444 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 1: In the least, He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and 445 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: Matt Williamson on your twenty four to seven Home of 446 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 1: the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 447 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 2: And we are back. 448 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,439 Speaker 3: I am Dale Lolly, he is the Matt Williamson and 449 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 3: Matt it is time to dig into the well. I 450 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 3: guess this is the. 451 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 2: Final regular seas year or next week or not. 452 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 3: So the final one of the regular season, I suppose, 453 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 3: because next week will be playoffs. 454 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so playoffs. Let's again playoffs. Yeah. 455 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 3: So these are Eric at Holmes ranking Saints. 456 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 2: Past your Giants to be thirty two after one week 457 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 2: of another miserable loss and a win for the Giant. 458 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 2: I think they're the only two contenders. Well, Patriots are 459 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 2: really bad too. 460 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 3: That's none of those teams are who he has two? Okay, 461 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 3: somebody else you're not thinking of. 462 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 2: They're that bad though. I mean the Giants are running 463 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 2: away with it and only happen to get a win 464 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 2: the Tennessee Titans. I still think they would win against 465 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 2: all those teams more often. 466 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,360 Speaker 3: They lost to the Jaguars twice in the last three weeks. 467 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 2: Oh they're not good. 468 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 1: Man. 469 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 3: The Jaguars were living down here for a long time. 470 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 2: I know. Patriots have like three good players. 471 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 3: The Patriots are thirty one. They're down three spots. 472 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 2: Okay, so they think the Saints be either one of 473 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 2: those teams, right, I get currently constructed? I don't know 474 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 2: I agree with. 475 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 3: That at thirty The Cleveland Browns pretty miserable as currently constructed. 476 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 3: If you're going to tell me that the DTR and 477 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 3: there's you know they're bad. 478 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 2: I'd say, is that the worst offense in the league 479 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 2: on New Year's Eve? Yees strong case or they can't 480 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 2: even operate right? Saints are pretty bad, like the Giants 481 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 2: are way better on offensive? Those lit yuck. 482 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,360 Speaker 3: At twenty nine, up three spots are the Giants. 483 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 2: I mean there's something awful teams. A win goes a 484 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 2: long way. Yeah. 485 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 3: At twenty eight, up two spots the Jaguars, Yeah, on 486 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 3: the Titans and beating up on the Titans. At twenty seven, 487 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 3: up two spots the Raiders. They've won to a run. 488 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay. O'Connell's not terrible. Yeah, I think he could be. 489 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 3: He'd be a long time backup in that league. 490 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 2: I think you'll have a Minshew fitzpatrick career. Yeah, probably 491 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 2: play for ten teams, you know. At twenty six holding 492 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 2: steady the Jets, boy, they were I thought the saddest 493 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 2: team of all. They were garbage, Yeah, I mean miserable, 494 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 2: old bad, didn't want to be there. 495 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 3: No, it all started with Aaron Rodgers walking doing the 496 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 3: walkout before the game started. As they're coming out of 497 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 3: the tunnel and they had this big. They don't call 498 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 3: them boom boxes anymore. 499 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 2: They call him bump boxes. Yeah, giant. 500 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 3: And they're playing Gangster's Paradise by Coolio, which is about 501 00:22:58,040 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 3: what thirty years. 502 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 2: Old, right, it was just old folks. 503 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean nothing gets you pumped up like 504 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 3: a thirty year old. 505 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm not sure the rookies is into that, right, 506 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 2: that would. 507 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 3: Be like, why are you playing? Like when I was 508 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,959 Speaker 3: in high school. We come out, we're coming out to 509 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,360 Speaker 3: h Buddy Holly and the crickets. 510 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 2: Lawrence, Well, thirty years old and what are we doing here? 511 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 2: I don't remember this right? Every day? 512 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 3: Twenty five the Carolina Panthers. 513 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 2: That's the first respectable team. Yeah, I don't win a lot. 514 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 2: They don't win a lot, but they're I'm kind of 515 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 2: in it, into it. 516 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 3: Although they weren't last week they got smoked. 517 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 2: They did. Twenty four the Bears. I guess they're the 518 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 2: best yet, but they're pretty miserable. 519 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 3: At twenty three, you finally have the Saints. 520 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 2: That's wrong, Yeah, that's right. Wrong. I mean, watch the 521 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 2: Packer game two weeks ago. It was the worst performance 522 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 2: any team that all year. 523 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 3: Well, Darren Rizzy, this week is trying to go four 524 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 3: and four as the interim coach. 525 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 2: I get that they have some wins in the second 526 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 2: half of the season. Yeah, I mean, I guess that's 527 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 2: the argument that was. 528 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 3: When they had a quarterback right now, the car might 529 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 3: be back this week. We'll see, and that might make it. 530 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,199 Speaker 2: Their lave mic those the weapons are terrible to Oh, 531 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 2: they're awful. Yeah, yeah, but without Kamara and yeah. 532 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 3: At twenty two are the Colts Welcome to the club boys. 533 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,360 Speaker 3: That's they didn't move at all. Yeah, but that's where 534 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 3: they're at. They lost to the Giants this week with 535 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 3: a playoff spot on the line. 536 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 2: So we always do. We just started doing that when 537 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 2: a team gets officially eliminated, we just do like a 538 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 2: whole segment on them, and today was the Colts, and 539 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 2: I stole your Field's idea of what I do. But 540 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 2: I think coaching staff is a problem. Defensive staff, it's 541 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 2: a real problem. And I think they're the only team 542 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 2: we got eliminated this week, like truly eliminated. Cardinals were 543 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 2: already eliminated. I'm pretty sure we just kind of scanned 544 00:24:58,359 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 2: my head real quick, and there's going when I could 545 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 2: come up with it's the only one. 546 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 3: They're only one in the AFC. Somebody else had already 547 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 3: been a limit alive. 548 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 2: Yeah right. Uh. 549 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 3: At twenty one down a spot the Cowboys, they're in 550 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 3: the same tier, they're both no c I mean there 551 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 3: now it's over. Yeah, they put up a fight for 552 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 3: a while. At twenty up a spot the forty nine ers. Well, 553 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 3: I don't know to bump the forty nine ers up 554 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 3: a spot in the Cowboys down a spot. 555 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 2: I left them right where they were at. Niners were 556 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 2: good last night, though, I mean, you can make a kick. 557 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 2: They lost by six the two mixed kicks that and 558 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 2: two interceptions for the differences interception. 559 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, don't throw interceptions and miskicks do happen you don't 560 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 3: have a good kicker. 561 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that was against the Lions kick not Lions defenses. Oh, 562 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 2: it's atrocious. I don't think they can go through the 563 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 2: playoffs with that. Tea No, no, no, I agree. 564 00:25:52,000 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 3: Nineteen is the Cardinals, fine, Eighteen the Dolphins. Dolphins better 565 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 3: than the Cardinals, probably probably, assuming who is in there. Yeah, 566 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 3: seventeen down two spots are the Falcons. 567 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 2: Pennix is interesting in that we all want to get 568 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 2: excited about him and I think there should be excitement 569 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 2: about him. He's only played two games. But if you 570 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 2: watch that game, the broadcasters never mentioned like all the 571 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 2: open throes he missed. There were a lot, Yeah, and 572 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,959 Speaker 2: there was. You know, deep ball doesn't have a lot 573 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 2: of arc on it yet or maybe ever. You know, 574 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 2: like it's not like, oh we got another one, that's 575 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 2: the next coming. 576 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 3: Not a perfect situation. He's just better than Kirk Cousins. 577 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:41,640 Speaker 2: And the move should have been made a month ago. 578 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 3: Which if you're watching that game, they kept talking about. 579 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 3: I can't remember which game it was because I watched 580 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:49,679 Speaker 3: a thousand games last year. 581 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 2: It was against Washington. 582 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 3: It was a fun Yeah, but I've watched a bunch 583 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 3: of different games, and somebody was talking about, you know, 584 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,360 Speaker 3: all the quarterbacks that are going to be out there, 585 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 3: maybe this team signs Kirk Cousins. Who in their right 586 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 3: mind would want to sign Kirk Cousins based off of 587 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 3: what he put on the field this year. 588 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, after people are like, oh, some might trade for. 589 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 3: Him, No way, there's no you that contract it's like 590 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 3: almost fully guaranteed. 591 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 2: It's a ridiculous deal, right, Could he get the Wilson 592 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 2: deal next year? If he gets cut. He's got a 593 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 2: lot of. 594 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 3: Guaranteed money potentially if you didn't have to pay him. 595 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,239 Speaker 3: That's what I mean, if you make more sense than 596 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,120 Speaker 3: bringing him in and hoping he's the savior, right because 597 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 3: you're paying him a bunch of money, because that's not 598 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 3: who he is at this point. 599 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm thinking the team that drafts Should or Sanders 600 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 2: also has cousin he becomes the big brother mentor type 601 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 2: and a million a year. 602 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,640 Speaker 3: Speaking of which, somebody on the message board today said, 603 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 3: I'm going to remember your your Should Door Sanders take. 604 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 3: First of all, I don't give takes. I give my opinion. 605 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 3: I'm not twelve, I don't work for this the state, 606 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 3: the station across town. These are not takes. I'm not 607 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 3: giving you a hot take. These are my opinions. I 608 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 3: don't know that Should Sanders, from what I have seen, 609 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 3: is going to be a good NFL quarterback. If his 610 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 3: name were Lally Orster Door Williamson, I don't know that 611 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 3: people will be talking about him as being the top 612 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 3: pick in this draft. 613 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 2: I was going they my kid should Yeah right. Yeah, 614 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 2: I don't know enough about him, but I'm not blown away. 615 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 2: At the point, I'm not blown away. 616 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 3: I see a lot of sideways passes accurate. 617 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 2: But I think also the one thing about him that 618 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 2: I have noticed is because his last name isn't Lawlier Williams, 619 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 2: and they think he's a really good athlete and he's not. 620 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 2: He's more to attack of Vailoa than he is. Yeah, 621 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 2: Jayden and Daniel. He got a little bit of mommy's 622 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 2: jeans from athleticism. Apparently not all dads, because Dad was 623 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 2: like the best athlete I've ever heard. And again I'm 624 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 2: not saying he might be great. I have studied. 625 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 3: Depending where he lands, yeah, I think he's going to 626 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,479 Speaker 3: be a systems quarterback in the NFL. 627 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 2: But for the turn of the new year, where I 628 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 2: always am in draft prospects, usually the top quarterback I 629 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 2: like a lot better than this guy. 630 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 3: I would not take him number one overall. That's just 631 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 3: me me putting that out there on December thirty. 632 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 2: Fast. 633 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 3: I haven't studied this. I haven't looked at all the 634 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 3: tape and you know, seen all that stuff. I haven't 635 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 3: seen any. 636 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 2: Very very early for draft takes. 637 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 3: I like cam word better. I get that's better arm anyways. 638 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 2: But anyway, so. 639 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 3: At sixteen up a spot the Seattle Seahawks. 640 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 2: I think they're the best team yet. 641 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, and may not get in. 642 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 2: May not get in successful year though, I would say, 643 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 2: I would say, I mean, consider it's a whole new 644 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:37,239 Speaker 2: coaching staff, bring back Geno, add to it. You get 645 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 2: some lineman where you're at. 646 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 3: If they don't get in, they can point directly to 647 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 3: losing to the Giants at home in Week five. 648 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 2: Oo. I mean every team has one of those give 649 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 2: or tape, but that's at the bottom all. 650 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 3: I thought, Mike tom Lomley coach those games. You only 651 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 3: lose games that. 652 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 2: You're supposed to win. Yeah, because underdogs never win. Yeah, 653 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 2: that's a bad one. The Seahawks lost the Giants at 654 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 2: home at home. See that as hard place to play, 655 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 2: as people think. Not what the Houston records. 656 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 3: At fifteen up a spot the Bengals, Yeah. 657 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 2: That's proper. I bet a lot of people would have 658 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 2: them higher because the win streak. There's still an even 659 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 2: steven bad defense the road team. 660 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, at fourteen, down a spot the Houston Texans. 661 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 2: Who's better of those two today? 662 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 3: I'd still take the Texans over the Bengals. 663 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 2: There are more complete defense is quite good. It's much 664 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 2: better than Cincinnati's not not even close. And I think 665 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 2: Joe Mixon would run all over that Cincinnati defense because 666 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 2: he would be highly motivated to do so. Yeah, I 667 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 2: don't think the Texans offense is as broken as the 668 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 2: Bengals defense. 669 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, Bengals defense is bad. Yeah, they said last week 670 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 3: the Bengals defense, if we're if we're putting sixty two 671 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 3: units out there, four units out there, it's in the 672 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 3: bottom four or five. 673 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 2: I definitely thought so. The second the whistle blue after 674 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 2: the Steelers win, I think it's gotten a little better. 675 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 2: They've taken the ball away and they got me say, 676 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 2: at least they've saved their butts a little bit. 677 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 3: They just they finally figured out. As I was watching 678 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 3: the game the other night, I'm like, oh, they finally 679 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 3: figured out, Hey, let's not have Mike Hilton cover somebody. 680 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 3: Let's have him blitz on every every play because that's 681 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 3: what he does better best, because he doesn't cover anybody, 682 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 3: not that he doesn't cover anybody, but he's not great 683 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 3: in coverage. But we're gonna blitz him because he's really 684 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 3: good at that. 685 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 2: So my dad just sent us a text. Yes, said, 686 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 2: Mom pushed me to name you should do or in 687 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 2: a weak moment, I almost gave in. Glad didn't Dad, 688 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 2: Happy new your buddy. 689 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 3: I've already told you what you should have named your 690 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 3: your your son, Michael should what his middle name should 691 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 3: have been. 692 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 2: But not all this on the air for on the air. 693 00:31:58,680 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 2: Yeah stories uh. 694 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 3: At thirteen, down two spots the Denver Broncos. 695 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 2: I'm cool with that. They're hard to play against. Yeah, 696 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 2: they have a good defense, they can run the ball, 697 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 2: really good O line. At twelve holding steady the Rams. 698 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 2: I put the Rams over the Broncos. Yeah, quarterback. 699 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. At eleven, up three spots, Tampa Bay. 700 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 2: Baker has been really good and they can run the ball. 701 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 2: They can run the ball, they have an O line, 702 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 2: they have enough weapons. The defense isn't great, No, it's not, 703 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 2: but neither is the Rams. Right, and he'll scheme things up. 704 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 2: Those three are pretty similar to me. Yeah, in terms 705 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 2: of power ranking. 706 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 3: At ten, down a spot, the Steelers. 707 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 2: I get it. 708 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 3: I get it, but I don't agree with it. 709 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 2: So who's next? 710 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 3: I would still have them ahead of the Chargers. 711 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. It's funny because it wasn't malicious, believe it or not. 712 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 2: That after the Chargers game on Saturday, I got a 713 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 2: nicely worded tweet basically saying, I think the Chargers are 714 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 2: more buttoned up, better shape than the Steelers. And I 715 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 2: understand that take, and especially after watching those games on Christmas, 716 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 2: and then again it's a little recency bias, and my 717 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 2: answer was, I don't disagree, but look at the level 718 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 2: of opponents, correct, Like, I don't think the Chargers will 719 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 2: looked like that against. 720 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 3: They're not out there, They're not out there beating the 721 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 3: snot out of good team. 722 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 2: No, I mean they beat a horrendous team this past week. 723 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 3: Their wins are over the Raiders. The Panthers lost to 724 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 3: the Steelers twenty to ten with Justin Fields at quarterback. 725 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 3: Lost to the Chiefs. Bye, beat the Broncos twice. Good 726 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 3: for them, Yeah, that's great. Lost of the Cardinals. 727 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 2: That's kind of their signature moment season. Denver wins over 728 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 2: the Broncos. Yeah, lost of the Cardinals. 729 00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 3: Beat the Saints, beat the beat the Titans, beat the Bengals, Okay, 730 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 3: lost to the Ravens, beat the Falcons, lost to Kansas City, 731 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 3: got crushed by Tampa Bay. Yeah that was in Week fifteen. 732 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,320 Speaker 3: That's not that long ago. That was forty to seventeen. 733 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,800 Speaker 3: Beat the Broncos, and then they beat the Patriots, and 734 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 3: you're gonna move them up. 735 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean the Patriot thing is that I don't care. 736 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 2: It was a non competitor. 737 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 3: You beat this, you beat the Patriots forty to seven, 738 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,720 Speaker 3: You should beat the Patriots forty to seven. It shouldn't 739 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 3: be it shouldn't be a contest. 740 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 2: I would have the Steelers ahead of the Chargers, but 741 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 2: they're in the same neighborhood today. 742 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 3: At nine, he has the Chargers. 743 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, at. 744 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 3: Eight the Commanders. 745 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 2: That's a little rich. 746 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 3: I think the Steelers are a better team than. 747 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,959 Speaker 2: The Chargers are a better team than Commanders. Yeah, little 748 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 2: Rich who was right behind the Steelers Tampa Bay. I 749 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 2: would have the Commanders every time. But yeah, I'm not 750 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 2: sold on Washington's defense either. No, I'm not either. 751 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:10,839 Speaker 3: I think it's it's a year troublesome, Yeah, troublesome. At 752 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 3: seven down a spot is Green Bay. 753 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 2: They should be falling a little bit, though. The six 754 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 2: ahead of them are clearly ahead of them. 755 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,799 Speaker 3: I think I think the Steelers and Packers are on 756 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 3: the same level. 757 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,839 Speaker 2: I do too, And it's all said and done, I'd 758 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 2: probably take them both ahead of Washington and the Charger. Yes. Yeah. 759 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 3: The only difference between the only difference to me between 760 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 3: the Steelers and Packers right now is that the Steelers 761 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 3: have a quote unquote signature win over the Ravens. The 762 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 3: Packers don't have one of those. 763 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,879 Speaker 2: No, No, they're they're their best in drive. 764 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 3: Their best win is kind of Seattle, is it? 765 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean I know They're five losses are very 766 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 2: respectable losses, yeah in one of them. Yeah, you're allowed 767 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 2: to win one of the team. You know. 768 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 3: You start looking at the Steelers and like they're five 769 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 3: and three against playoff teams right now, and the Packers 770 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 3: don't match up quite as well in that regard. Here 771 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 3: at six up a spot is Baltimore. 772 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 2: I might have them higher, but I understand the teams 773 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:10,359 Speaker 2: ahead of them are good. 774 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 3: Five down the spot is Philadelphia. 775 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,880 Speaker 2: I think you still have to have Philadelphia ahead of Baltimore. 776 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 3: They played They played them like three weeks ago, and 777 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:18,840 Speaker 3: I would meet them hand. 778 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 2: Philly as if pickets a quarterback. I would rank them 779 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 2: as Hurts. Hurts should be back. Yeah yeah. 780 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 1: Uh. 781 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 3: At four up a spot is Minnesota, Okay, and I've 782 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 3: been slow on Minnesota the four fourteen and two is 783 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 3: fourteen and two. 784 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,400 Speaker 2: I might have all three of them ahead of Lions. 785 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 2: Lions defense might be the weakest unit of the top 786 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 2: six teams. Now. Their offense is near the top. 787 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, it might be number one, might be number one. 788 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 2: But that defense to me is concerning. Yeah, it's it's 789 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 2: definitely troublesome. Yeah. Uh. 790 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 3: At three, Holding Steady are the Lions. 791 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,320 Speaker 2: They've had a great year. I'm not trying to crush 792 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 2: the Lions, but I don't love where they're at. I 793 00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:57,959 Speaker 2: don't either. 794 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,479 Speaker 3: At two, Holding Steady is Buffalo and then Kansas City 795 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 3: is number one. 796 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 2: Okay, top six are pretty clear, and really the order 797 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 2: isn't clear. But the top six to me are the 798 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 2: best teams in the league. 799 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would agree with that, Yeah, I would agree 800 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,839 Speaker 3: with that. I just think that Pittsburgh and Green Bay 801 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,359 Speaker 3: are seven and eight kind of on a tier that 802 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 3: next tier by themselves. 803 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 2: I tend to agree. Yeah. 804 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 3: And if there were a team that I thought could 805 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 3: be on that tier with them, I think it might 806 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:28,799 Speaker 3: be Tampa Bay. 807 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,399 Speaker 2: I don't know the Chargers can get there. I don't 808 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 2: know that Washington could get there. Could Houston start playing 809 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 2: like that? I've been saying that for. 810 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,799 Speaker 3: Like, so I don't think I think that ship has 811 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,839 Speaker 3: sailed for this season. I think they are what they are. 812 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:45,319 Speaker 3: I said this over and. 813 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 2: Over after Week fourteen, I'm like, I think Houston and 814 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 2: Baltimore will get things right after this late by I 815 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 2: was half right. 816 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 3: I think the scariest quote unquote wild card teams going 817 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 3: into this or teams in that first round who aren't 818 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:02,719 Speaker 3: going to be necessarily the favorites our Pittsburgh, Green Bay 819 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,320 Speaker 3: and Tampa. And Tampa's gonna win their division. 820 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, yeah, but they'll probably be a dog, 821 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,360 Speaker 2: probably because they probably get the Lions. 822 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 3: They're gonna get Lions or Minnesota, And I would not 823 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 3: be surprised at all if they won. 824 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 2: That game at home. Yeah, I could see that. 825 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:18,320 Speaker 3: I just I don't know a little. 826 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 2: Bit of a giant killer thing to them. 827 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 3: I don't know that Denver or the Chargers, Washington, Washington. 828 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,919 Speaker 2: They're all teams that kind of OutKick their coverage. This year. Yeah, 829 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 2: I don't know that's the year. Even if they're one 830 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 2: and done building on something. 831 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 3: I don't know of those go in and pull pull 832 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 3: on upset in the first round of the playoffs. 833 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 2: No, I lean that way too, But I think I 834 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,879 Speaker 2: don't think they walk into Baltimore or Buffalo, and. 835 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 3: I think the Packers, Steelers, and Box could all win 836 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:46,839 Speaker 3: as underdogs in the opening round. 837 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 2: The Bucks will be at home. Oh the Steels are 838 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 2: gonna be a dog. I mean, if it's they're playing 839 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 2: Houston today, would they be a dog? I don't know. 840 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 2: I bet not even in their building. Yeah, assuming Pickens 841 00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,879 Speaker 2: and Porter and all those guys are playing, right, Yeah, 842 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,319 Speaker 2: I think I think the Steelers are two or three 843 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 2: point favorites. It could be, could be. And there's people 844 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 2: screaming at. 845 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 3: The radio right now, you guys radiots not sure. We're 846 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,319 Speaker 3: just giving our opinion. These aren't hot takes. 847 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 2: Houston's a problem. If you studied Houston, you'd be really 848 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 2: frustrated with them. Yeah, because it's not like last year, 849 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 2: not at all. 850 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 3: It's a different different team, different team. I mean, they're 851 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 3: in a bad spot right now. 852 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,919 Speaker 2: Anyways. Their offensive coordinator is not gonna be fielding any 853 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 2: head coach. 854 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,320 Speaker 3: Don't believe so, nor Iso. 855 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 2: No. Yeah, the bloom is off those roads anyways. 856 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 3: He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lellye, you're listening 857 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,399 Speaker 3: to the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network along 858 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 3: with Matt Stadt. How you doing, Yeah uh, and we're 859 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:42,359 Speaker 3: ready to get to a break. Of course. You can 860 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 3: hear the Drive every Monday through Friday from four to 861 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 3: six pm right here on these very airwaves. We're going 862 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 3: to continue into the off season. Here will probably take 863 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,799 Speaker 3: you all the way through free agency, five days a week. 864 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:54,840 Speaker 2: So it's a little good news. 865 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 3: Some senle flights they're ready to go, or it will 866 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 3: be right there in the stadium watching practices and giving 867 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 3: you the rundown from. 868 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 2: Really dig into the draft. But that's like, that's not 869 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 2: after the Steelers get eliminade. That's down the road. Super 870 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 2: Bowl's done and all that stuff too. But yeah, it 871 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 2: is a fun next stage of the. 872 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,400 Speaker 3: Development's always fun learning about players. You're like, oh, that 873 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 3: guy looks ae you. We'll talk about this when we 874 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 3: get back. Now we're gonna take a break right now. 875 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,479 Speaker 3: Of course, you can also download the Steelers mobile app. 876 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,440 Speaker 3: You can also watch our show on YouTube. I'm Dale Lolli, 877 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,719 Speaker 3: he's Matt Williamson. We'll be back to finish up the 878 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:28,840 Speaker 3: show right after. 879 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:34,920 Speaker 1: This, and at least he's the Drive with Dale Lolly 880 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 1: and Matt Williamson on your twenty four to seven Home 881 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 1: of the Black and Gold cast in Steelers Nation Radio. 882 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,720 Speaker 3: Welcome back. I am Dale LOLLI he is the Matt 883 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 3: Williamson and this is the Drive on the Steelers Audio Network. 884 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,320 Speaker 3: And one of the things we were just talking about 885 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 3: there was the draft process and a lot of times 886 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 3: like I'm not a scout, I've never been a scout, 887 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,760 Speaker 3: but I've covered the game for a long time sure, 888 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 3: and covered a lot of Steeler practices and Steeler drafts 889 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:13,239 Speaker 3: and talk to people within the organization, and so you 890 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:18,440 Speaker 3: get to an understanding of what the team values, yea 891 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,759 Speaker 3: in the draft process by doing that, what they're looking for, 892 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,359 Speaker 3: and as a former scout yourself, you have a better 893 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,360 Speaker 3: understanding of those Well look at him flip his hips. 894 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:29,799 Speaker 2: And that kind of stuff. 895 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:33,440 Speaker 3: I don't get into it like that, but but. 896 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 2: You can always just even looking through a Steeler perspective, 897 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 2: like that guy's. 898 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,440 Speaker 3: Offer that that guy's not going to be yeah right. 899 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 2: I mean, even like step two of draft process, there's 900 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,839 Speaker 2: some guys who could probably start to eliminate already once 901 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 2: we start to learn about you know what I mean, 902 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 2: Like just a hunch. I'm assuming Austin and Roman Wilson 903 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,200 Speaker 2: are going to be Steelers next year. Therefore, I'm out 904 00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:57,440 Speaker 2: on five nine receivers. 905 00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 3: Right, I don't mean like another and I don't ness 906 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 3: necessarily like. One of the things I was thinking he 907 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 3: made me think of this is I'm looking I was 908 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,839 Speaker 3: looking at the top receivers over the weekend as I'm 909 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:10,440 Speaker 3: watching football games, and I'm like, oh, this guy just 910 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,040 Speaker 3: plays the slot. That guy just plays the slot. He's 911 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,440 Speaker 3: he's been slot on. You got you've got slot. 912 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,920 Speaker 2: Guys might love him, but we got that. Yeah right, Yeah, So. 913 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,719 Speaker 3: You're looking more for an outside, physical presence kind of guy, 914 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 3: and that's the you know. So I see a lot 915 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,279 Speaker 3: of mock drafts that come out this time of year, 916 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 3: and they just put the players in an order based on, well. 917 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,279 Speaker 2: This guy's receiver obviously, just give him this five to 918 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:33,799 Speaker 2: ten fast guy. Yeah right. 919 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:38,240 Speaker 3: So for example, the Missouri receiver, what Burton or Burton? 920 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:38,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? 921 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I'm like, yeah, he's a good player, but 922 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 3: he's five ten. Does he necessarily fit what they want 923 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 3: to do in this offense? 924 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 2: Again, I don't know these prospects super well, but I 925 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 2: think he kind of has like the Jamar Chase build. 926 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 3: Yea to him, he's a bigger guy and so maybe 927 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,640 Speaker 3: he was a But the other example was the Ohio 928 00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 3: State receiver whose name I can't pronounce, Bob. 929 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's been a. 930 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,080 Speaker 3: Slot receiver his entire college career, right, even though he's 931 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,880 Speaker 3: six one, two of five, Like, can you play him outside? 932 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 2: Maybe? Maybe? I mean that was the conversation with Justin Jefferson, Right, 933 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,560 Speaker 2: if he proves he could be an outside guy, show 934 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:16,800 Speaker 2: that blah blah blah. Then if he can check that box, 935 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,759 Speaker 2: then yeah, I'm interested. But he's slot only or just 936 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,440 Speaker 2: a little fast guy. Got enough of them. 937 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, those are things that you look for at the 938 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,719 Speaker 3: Senior Bowl. To your point, sure that we're looking at. 939 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,560 Speaker 3: Those are things you look at, you know, if you're 940 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,920 Speaker 3: watching the East West Shrine practices or those Bowl. 941 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,520 Speaker 2: Games, even the game tonight. I'm gonna yeah, these these 942 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,439 Speaker 2: late late games. When I actually watched the whole thing, 943 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 2: I always pull up who are the prospects? I at 944 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,880 Speaker 2: least want to be familiar with them. Yeah, Like a 945 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,040 Speaker 2: real good example is like along the lines of the 946 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,280 Speaker 2: steel wide receiver position is if not he's not back, 947 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,359 Speaker 2: they're not the market for one hundred and ninety punds 948 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,480 Speaker 2: running bay. No, you know, I mean they have a type. 949 00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:56,920 Speaker 2: It's gonna be two twenty plus. 950 00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, they like bigger backs. 951 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:00,960 Speaker 2: Yep. So all these guys on the list, yeah, I'm 952 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:02,799 Speaker 2: gonna pay attention to him, but not as much as 953 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,520 Speaker 2: the ones that are two twenty year bigger. You know. 954 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 3: I mean there's in the trends that you know, we 955 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,200 Speaker 3: we often joke about this that you know, you're you're 956 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,040 Speaker 3: looking at the stuff and that guy's a Steeler, a 957 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,759 Speaker 3: raven like because he fits, he's big enough to ride, 958 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:18,680 Speaker 3: to ride, yeah yeah, and has a certain demeanor play demeanor. Yeah, 959 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,960 Speaker 3: oh that guy's That guy looks like a Bengal. You know, 960 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:27,160 Speaker 3: you just you learn things about players that prism we. 961 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,840 Speaker 2: Were watching or you know what the mentioned before that 962 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:34,400 Speaker 2: Falcons commander's game and I'm sitting there watching Saintstril like 963 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,320 Speaker 2: seroucuse that guy, you know, Like, I mean there's a 964 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,439 Speaker 2: lot of dudes. Of course, you don't get every pick, 965 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,800 Speaker 2: you know, like boy Brian Thomas, like receiver would have 966 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:45,560 Speaker 2: been really nice, or a tough dude slot that can 967 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,400 Speaker 2: also go outside. Yeah, that'd be really nice. To Gene. 968 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,000 Speaker 2: You know a lot of guys we liked on draft 969 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,200 Speaker 2: Day that ended up being exactly what we wanted, but 970 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:53,319 Speaker 2: you don't get so many picks. 971 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:54,960 Speaker 3: I was kids that when I watched Brian Branch from 972 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:55,200 Speaker 3: my car. 973 00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,960 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, I don't remember your take on them 974 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,000 Speaker 2: other than he loved them, But I do remember, and 975 00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,400 Speaker 2: people kind of didn't like the sound of it because 976 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,840 Speaker 2: he's Joey Porter's kid. But when Day two opened and 977 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:09,400 Speaker 2: I was asked, who would you take right now with 978 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,680 Speaker 2: first overall pick and my Branch, I'm pretty happy with Porter, 979 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,120 Speaker 2: but that would have been my pick of the day, 980 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,080 Speaker 2: I said on the air, you know, and both would 981 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:16,399 Speaker 2: be great. 982 00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, you'd be in a different place right now. But 983 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,640 Speaker 3: you're right, they're both really good players. 984 00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,479 Speaker 2: We liked them in the first round. Yeah, we walked 985 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,640 Speaker 2: them a lot in the first round. Yeah, so I mean, like, 986 00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:29,840 Speaker 2: Porter be my next pick, but I would take Branch. 987 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:31,320 Speaker 2: But they're both right. 988 00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:33,640 Speaker 3: And I mean, you know, they're you know, I loved 989 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,239 Speaker 3: her big. You didn't necessarily like her big as much, 990 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,400 Speaker 3: but I could see why he wouldn't like her. I mean, 991 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,880 Speaker 3: he does have short arms. Yeah, yeah, he also has 992 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:42,040 Speaker 3: a very active. 993 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, pass rusher, and that that position is a good 994 00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:48,680 Speaker 2: example too. Is I think it's become really apparent that 995 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:52,320 Speaker 2: a trait the Steelers, absolutely Covid is get off speed, 996 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,080 Speaker 2: get off speed. Yeah, absolutely, And he's as good as anyone. Yeah, 997 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 2: the first two steps in the ground is going to 998 00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:59,919 Speaker 2: be really quick. They're gonna be looking at ten yard 999 00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,200 Speaker 2: you know, splits, They're gonna be watching tape of his 1000 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,040 Speaker 2: get off. If they probably won't this year, but next 1001 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,239 Speaker 2: edge guy they take in the top four rounds, I'll 1002 00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:08,920 Speaker 2: bet everything I have he's got a good get off. 1003 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,680 Speaker 3: The other thing is motor like. I don't they don't. 1004 00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,080 Speaker 3: I don't think they're real interested in guys who kind 1005 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:15,120 Speaker 3: of half asset out there. 1006 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. I wonder at the D line position in particular, 1007 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,680 Speaker 2: you know, going back to the deg line coaches and 1008 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,040 Speaker 2: many decades, you better run on the ball loafers, Yeah, 1009 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:26,960 Speaker 2: you better run to the ball ninety seven is and 1010 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,279 Speaker 2: be cool with a loafer first round pick in know, 1011 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,400 Speaker 2: no way, no right, so or they're gonna whip it 1012 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:32,879 Speaker 2: out of you. 1013 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, so there's some of that. Anyways, that's 1014 00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,320 Speaker 3: gonna do it for today's show. So for my partner 1015 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:42,160 Speaker 3: Matt Williamson for Justin Miller here on site Ryan Miller 1016 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,200 Speaker 3: Hotline and you can call Justin also on kiss and 1017 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:49,760 Speaker 3: you know there you go get some stuff on there. 1018 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,839 Speaker 3: Tyler viitt Meyer here making sure our video gets out 1019 00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,040 Speaker 3: onto YouTube and you'll be able to see that here 1020 00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,360 Speaker 3: later tonight. Hope Tyler's not working too late tonight to 1021 00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:00,319 Speaker 3: get that up. I am Dale safe to everyone. Yeah, 1022 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,680 Speaker 3: be safe. We'll talk to you next year. No show tomorrow. 1023 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:06,759 Speaker 3: We're going to take the day off. The Steelers won't. 1024 00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:10,120 Speaker 3: I'll be down there covering practice. So there's that. But 1025 00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:12,759 Speaker 3: we thank you for listening to this edition of the 1026 00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,160 Speaker 3: Drive on the Steelers Audio Network