1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: What is up? Everybody? Welcome into a Wednesday edition of 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: Texans All Access from Monday Texas Radio Studio. I am 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: your host, John Harris. Glad to be with you this 4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 1: Wednesday evening, and well, we got a lot for you 5 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: this evening. We are gonna go behind him me sidelines 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: with deep suit. We gotta obviously learn a little bit 7 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: about these Arizona Cardinals that we see every four years. 8 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,639 Speaker 1: Danny Shurek is going to join us on the show 9 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:27,639 Speaker 1: to give us the skinny on the Cardinals. We're also 10 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: going to have a little bit of our in the 11 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: lab discussion, plus men behind the mics. One of my 12 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 1: non Mark van of Mere favorite play by play voices 13 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: is Dave Pash. He covers college football. He also has 14 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: a play by play voice of the Arizona Cardinals. Then 15 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: we're gonna do a little where are they Now with 16 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: Zach Dials. Now, if you remember Zach, Zach was a 17 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: seveth round pick I think in two thousand and seven, 18 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: I think it was two thousand and seven, was heck 19 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: of a player in Kansas State, came to Texans, did 20 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: some great things. Drew Doherty had a chance to catch 21 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:04,839 Speaker 1: up with him and it was a fantastic discussion with 22 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: Zach Dial. So we'll have a little where are they 23 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: now Wednesday? How about that? Where are they now Wednesday? 24 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: That fits? Or Wednesday where are they now? Either way, 25 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: I think it fits. The alliteration kinda is good. I 26 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: like it. I like a literation' all. I'm all about it. 27 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: Throwback Thursday, flashback Friday, whatever the o. Those I don't 28 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: know social media things are I don't know either way. 29 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: A lot on the show, as I just broke down 30 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: for you, got a little bit of news about the 31 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: injury report, and we're gonna get to that. However, we're 32 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: gonna kick off the show as we like to do 33 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: on a Wednesday. That is our weekly Wednesday interview with 34 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: Nick Cassario, general manager of your Houston Texans. Now, I 35 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: know that if you're like me social media, you saw 36 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: some news today, potential news about what could happen with 37 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: Deshaun Why And there's potential for a trade with the 38 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins. Now that's of course alleged. You don't know 39 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: whether that will happen, when it will happen, how it's 40 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: gonna happen. We don't know all those different questions and 41 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: that obviously broke on sometime Wednesday. We sat down with 42 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: Nick on Tuesday, so obviously, not knowing that information was 43 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: not something that we were going to be able to 44 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: ask of Nick Cassario, And obviously it's not something he 45 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: probably is gonna want to talk about until something is confirmed, 46 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 1: if something happens, when it happens, when it all goes down, 47 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 1: obviously Mark and I are going to be able to 48 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: sit down with Nick Casserio and discuss the ends and 49 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: the outs, But as of right now, things are alleged. 50 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: We don't know any of the if, when, how, where, why, 51 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff, So we don't know any 52 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: of those questions and those aren't gonna come up in 53 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: this discussion. But still a quality discussion with our GM, 54 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: Nick Casserio joining us right now. Texans Radio General Manager 55 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: Nick Kissaria and Nick, great to see how you doing good? Yeah, 56 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: doing well. Let's talk about Whitney merciless here no longer 57 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: a Texan in his tenth year and been with the 58 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: team a long time. I know these decisions are difficult. 59 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: Can you go over what led into this? Yeah? Sure, 60 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: anytime you make decisions, there's a lot of thought process 61 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: that goes into it. I would say in this particular situation, 62 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: like every player, just try to evaluate where we are 63 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: and ultimately just make a decision that we feel's best 64 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: for the organization. I know there's a lot of respect 65 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: and admiration for Whitney what he's done for this organization. 66 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: He's meant a lot to a lot of people, done 67 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: a lot of great things on a field and in 68 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: the community, a lot of great relationships with a number 69 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: of different people in different teammates. So anytime you do 70 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: something like this, it's always difficult, but ultimately we have 71 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: to make a decision and we have to move forward. 72 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: And if you look at it, just from where we 73 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: are today, gives some other players maybe another opportunity to 74 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: go out there and play and perform. We've had some 75 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: players are only a season j G. D Walk, Jacob Martin, 76 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: you know some other guys. Charles has played a little 77 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: bit earlier. So it just presents opportunity for some other players. 78 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: So you know, the door is open right now. Nick, 79 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: How tough is that as a GM, the business of 80 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: football intersects at a place where you've got to I mean, 81 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: just a pure ambassador to the community of Houston and 82 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: I'm just using guys one example. But how tough is 83 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: that when the business of football sort of intersects with 84 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: the game of football for you having to make a decision. Sure, 85 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: it's always difficult. The reality is football is a people business, 86 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: so you invest a lot of time and a lot 87 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: of people put a lot of time, a lot of 88 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 1: hard work into putting the product on the field. So 89 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 1: it's a lot of players throughout the course of their 90 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: careers end up at different teams, end up for different places. 91 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: So it's just part of the process. He's try to 92 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 1: do it in a respectful way and just realize that 93 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: it not only affects the player, but there's a lot 94 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: of other people on the periphery that are impacted as well. 95 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: So just try to be respectful, try to be honest, 96 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 1: and just trying to do the right thing by everybody 97 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: involved and ultimately make a decision and then move forward. 98 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: Jacob Martin, Jonathan Grenard. You mentioned them, and Grenard's got 99 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: four sacks to lead the team right now, what about 100 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: their performances? What are you see in so far this year? Yeah, 101 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: they made some progress. No, JG was a slow a 102 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 1: little bit of and training camp at the ankle and 103 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: then eventually when he came back, he's taken advantage of 104 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: his opportunity. Um. You know, then Jacobs played probably twenty 105 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: five thirty snaps a game. So you know there's players 106 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:10,679 Speaker 1: that are going to have to step into some roles 107 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: and you know, when given the opportunity that got there 108 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: and perform. And you know JG's taken advantage of that. 109 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 1: There's some other players that have taken advantage that as well. 110 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: So still have eleven games wherever is in front of us. 111 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: A focus on this week is in Arizona and what 112 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: we need to do, um, you know, prepare for that 113 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: for that game. So, but there'll be plenty of players. 114 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: Hopefully they get a chance to go in there and 115 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: step in and you know, assume a bigger role. Offensive 116 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 1: line seems to be the epitome of that. Without Laramie, 117 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: without Justin, without Marcus, you have guys step up, give 118 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: up two sacks. I don't know if one of them 119 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: I could put on the offensive line. They run for 120 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty team runs for one hundred twenty four yards. 121 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: Put that on some of the offensive line. What do 122 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: you think overall of kind of how that unit came 123 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: together with parts that had to move in with justin 124 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: that center and obviously Jerron Ard the left tackle as well. Yeah, collectively, 125 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: they hung in there, played seventy five snaps and there 126 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: were a lot of those five games. Guys played the 127 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: entire game, So there was some positives. There were some 128 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: things that we can certainly correct or improve. But I 129 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: mean it's a credit to that group. Is a credit 130 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: coach camping in the time and that they invest and 131 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: players take ownership. And this is a good situation, a 132 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 1: good example of you really never know when the opportunity 133 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: is going to come yet to be prepared for everything. 134 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: So this loop goes back a little bit to the 135 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 1: roster construction as well, and just kind of creating competition 136 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: and getting putting guys in roles that if they were 137 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: forced into that situation, you have enough confidence they can 138 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 1: go out there and perform. Nick and other move This week, 139 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: Andre Roberts no longer with the team, and we know 140 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: you have some other return guys who can do a 141 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 1: good job there, but you saw a bunch of him. 142 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: Can you explain that decision for him? Yeah? Different, but 143 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 1: similar to Whitney in some respects. So you just look 144 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: at the totality of where we are and everything that's 145 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: going on to this point, and we just felt right 146 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: now that was the best thing for us. Like you mentioned, Mark, 147 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: there'll be other players that will have to assume those 148 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: duties and responsibilities. We saw a little bit of that 149 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: in the preseason. Whether or not that actually manifests itself 150 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: in the same way, shape or form here moving forward, 151 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: we'll have to We'll go out there and practice tomorrow 152 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 1: and see how that works. So really, it's to John's point, 153 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: it's never easy, and it's to buy people. It's a 154 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: buy relationships. You invest a lot of time, a lot 155 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: of energy. Ultimately, we just felt, you know, we did 156 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: what we felt was best for our team. And that's 157 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: always what the focus is going to be. Today, tomorrow, 158 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: month from now, two months from now, a year from now. 159 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: In twenty seventeen, you have Brandon Cook's up in New 160 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: England when you're with the Patriots. Now you got him 161 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: here in twenty twenty one with the Texans. How have 162 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: you seen him grow in those four years? Because as 163 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: we watch him, we're like, hey, this guy breaks up 164 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: there with one of the top receivers we've seen as 165 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: a Texan. What have you seen in those four years 166 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: from when you saw him in twenty seventeen to where 167 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: he is now twenty twenty one. It's a great question 168 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: because anytime you're with a player, you're looking at it 169 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: at that particular point in time and then having the 170 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: fortune the good fortune, I guess if you will to 171 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: be with Brandon Hover many years down the road. He's 172 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: definitely improved, and I think it's a testament a credit 173 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: to the amount of work in the time that he 174 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: puts into his craft and improving in some areas. I 175 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: mean one thing, even going back to the spring, when 176 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: I saw him move around and it's like, well, this 177 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: looks like a different player. And it's not that he's 178 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: a different player, but he's grown. And the one thing 179 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: about him wherever he's been, he's been a consistent player. 180 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: Wasn't it as New Orleans, whether it's Los Angeles, he 181 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: hadn't I want to say, is right around a thousand 182 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: yards just so for us there in New England at 183 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: the time, And he's been a very consistent player year 184 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: after year after year, and he takes a lot of 185 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: pride in what he does, and he puts a lot 186 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: of work and when you put the work in and 187 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: then it translates over into production on the field. You see, 188 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: it's a pretty good formula. So he's the epitome of 189 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: what you want it in a professional the amount of 190 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: time and effort that he puts into. For Fortunately, we 191 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: have a lot of other players that kind of have 192 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: that same sort of mindset. But really it's a tribute 193 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: to Brandon in the work and the effort that he 194 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: puts in and his skill level which is pretty significant. Yeah, 195 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 1: he seems to be the kind of guy you want 196 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: other guys to look at and say, I want to 197 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: be like him. What's he doing? And this might be 198 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: a good question for coaches too, but for you, Nick, 199 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: it's hard to figure out who those guys might be 200 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 1: or what the effect might be and the guys that 201 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: might take to that right to be inspired by that 202 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 1: and model their games after that. It's very it's a 203 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: very organic process because you don't take said player and 204 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: say this guy is gonna show everybody what to do 205 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: and how to do it. But leadership is a lot 206 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: of time about action and actions, about performance and actions, 207 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: about how do you approach your training, how do you 208 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: approach your recovery. How do you approach your practice? So 209 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: if you're a player and you see those attributes, you 210 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: sort of make mental note and then you might go 211 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: up to them and say, hey, John, what is it 212 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: that you do in this situation that helps you to recover? Okay, 213 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 1: whether or not you can actually actually implement that in 214 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: the same way, shape or form as the other player does. 215 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: But it's really more information gathering. So that's how I 216 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: would say players develop relationships with people. How people in 217 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: leadership roles, if you will, are able to take that 218 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: information to disseminate it to their teammates. So it's a 219 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: very organic process. You're really not sure how it's going 220 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: to come to fruition. You sort of have to let 221 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: it take shape. And when you put a team together 222 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 1: on a year to year basis, you sort of in 223 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: your mind think it's going to go a certain way, 224 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:00,319 Speaker 1: but it might not go that way, so you kind 225 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: of have to let the process play itself out. Speaking 226 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: of process this week, and I know everything's a week 227 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: to week process, Like I get you, preparing for Indianapolis 228 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 1: is different from Arizona, is different from Buffalo, But Indianapolis 229 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: you see twice a year, and we've seen them for 230 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: however long. You know, Buffalo we just saw a couple 231 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: of years ago. Cleveland we saw last year. You know, 232 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: you see teams every so often in the AFC, but 233 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,079 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you take on a NFC team 234 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 1: and we haven't seen for four years and it's completely 235 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: different than four years. And you're facing, especially an offense 236 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: that's kind of unique with what Cliff does, and you throw, 237 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: on top of that, you got a quarterback that does 238 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: things that a lot of other teams don't do, complicating 239 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: the process. How tough does all of that make getting 240 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: ready for Arizona this week? Yeah? With the way the 241 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: schedules work, these are some teams are going to see 242 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: once every four years. So what happened four years ago 243 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: could be a lot different or it could be similar. 244 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: I would say in this particular situation, they're a lot 245 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 1: different team and a lot in a number of different 246 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: ways away articulated. So I think the what you have 247 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: to do is you have to invest the time and 248 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: you have to actually put in the work and understand 249 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 1: who the players are, how they play. What's the philosophy 250 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: from his coaching staff? Standpoint? Understand Cliff from an offensive standpoint, 251 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: understand Vans, Joseph, what he does on defense, what's his 252 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 1: thought process, what's Jeff Rogers mindset? And a kicking game, 253 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 1: and then you overlay that with the players that they 254 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: have on the roster in their particular roles. I think 255 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: the one thing, the one operative word or the word 256 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: that's appropriate to this team is explosive. So regardless if 257 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: you look at them offensively, look at a defensively, you're 258 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: in a kicking game. They have explosive players all over 259 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: to the field. So you have to understand that going 260 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: in and then you have to play a certain way 261 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: if you want to give yourself a chance to ultimately 262 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: have a positive result on Sunday, Nick, just to put 263 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 1: a rapper on the game on Sunday against the Colts, 264 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: when you look at some of the numbers there, Johnny 265 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: talked about the rushing yardage, passing yardage that was okay, 266 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: didn't score, didn't move the ball into the end zone, 267 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: but you moved it between the twenties. So is that encouraging? 268 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: How do you assess that moving out of the game. 269 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 1: I know you don't want to turn the ball over 270 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,959 Speaker 1: and that really hurt you. Sure you try to look 271 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 1: at the game in totality and try to take the 272 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: positives and figure out, what are some of the things 273 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: that we actually did well, what are some of the 274 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: areas that we can do a little bit better. Ultimately, 275 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: the game is about points, so scoring points and trying 276 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: to figure out a way to score points and keep 277 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: points off the board. That's the most important thing. So 278 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 1: really that game was kind of a microcosm of how 279 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: things have gone and pockets at different points of time. 280 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: We've had some success and other times it hasn't worked 281 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: out the way that we all have hoped or would 282 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 1: have wished on a week to week basis. So from 283 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: a team standpoint, and a few of the players have 284 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: mentioned that in Coach Callie talked about just overall consistency 285 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: on a snap to snap down to down basis, you know, 286 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: in the overall hopefully we'll have to help the overall 287 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: execution of what we're trying to do in all three phases. 288 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: I know there were some players that did get back, 289 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 1: including Nico Collins. Rookie saw him in Cleveland. First, they 290 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: got hurt in that long catching run. On the first 291 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: play he gets back, he looked like he just fit 292 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: handing glove. When he came back, would you think of 293 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: Nico the rookie? You played forty some snaps, So it's 294 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: good to have him. Anytime you get players that haven't 295 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 1: played in a little bit back on the field, it's 296 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 1: always a good thing for your team. So Nico took 297 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 1: advantage some opportunities, had the third down conversion, had to 298 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: pop pass, you know, some tight coverage. So he's worked hard, 299 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 1: he's got a great attitude, shows up each day, he's 300 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: ready to work, and he prepared himself to go in 301 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: and actually play, because there's a anytime you're off the 302 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: roster and injury reserve, you can kind of go off 303 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: into sort of a wayward area if you're not careful. 304 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: But he's very diligent about to put a lot, spent 305 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: a lot of time with our sports performance staff and 306 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: then getting him ready to play this week goes back 307 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: to his preparation and it goes back to the work 308 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: that RP and Benny did with him getting ready to go. 309 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 1: So he probably played a few more snaps maybe than 310 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 1: we thought, but he came out of it okay. So 311 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: now you want to try to build on what happened 312 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: in the previous week. Every week we ask you about 313 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,559 Speaker 1: Davis and it's a little bit of a roller coaster ride, 314 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: and we saw some really good things in that game, 315 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: along with the rest of the offense. Like we're discussing, 316 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: but obviously you don't want to turn the ball over. 317 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: So what about the latest with your rookie quarterback. Yeah, 318 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: the number one responsibility of the quarterback is take care 319 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: of the football and just know when you know what 320 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: a good play is, don't make a bad play worse 321 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: by doing something that you really, quite frankly don't have 322 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: to do. So some of that is going to be learned. 323 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: Some of that happens pretty quickly. The reality is you 324 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: have to make decisions in about two seconds when you 325 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: have the ball in your hand. It's less than two, 326 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: it's less than three. So from pre snap, the time 327 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: to ball snap to what happens after the snap, things 328 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: happen quickly. So you just have to continually train your mind, 329 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: go through your process, understand what's happening under the side 330 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: of the ball, and just make a good decision for 331 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: the team. So that's the most important thing. So if 332 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: he can take that and apply that a moving forward basis, 333 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: then he'll see improvement in some of those areas. So 334 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: two things, One do you wish you had as much 335 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: swag as Cliff Kingsbury? And two you guys had him 336 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: in New England for a while if I remember correctly, 337 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: what was he what was he like there? And how 338 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: do you have you seen that translating to what he's 339 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: doing now? What makes you think he doesn't have as much? 340 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: He's got his own swack. But look, I don't have 341 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: never gonna sit in a house overlooking them mountains with 342 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: a fire in front of him during the NFL draft. Ever. Yeah, no, 343 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: I'm right, No, I would say that's actually that you 344 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: can't let that Miskin Strew. I would say how hard 345 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: Cliff works at football? Yeah, he's very smart. Um. You 346 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: know when we drafted him in two or three I 347 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: think it was oh three, he was very productive player 348 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: of Texas Tech. You guys probably saw him play down 349 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: here Buns. So very smart, very productive player. Had some 350 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: injuries that kind of short circuit of his career a 351 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: little bit. Um, but he's very He's a very thoughtful individual, 352 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: understands football and he had success when he was a 353 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: Texas Tech. You know, they won seven eight games at 354 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: different points, and he took advantage his opportunity. And there's 355 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: a lot of people that kind of turned the blind 356 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: eye when he was hired, as if you know what 357 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: is happening. But I think he's shown he's a very 358 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: good coach. He's a very shrewd coach. He understands offensive 359 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: football and he's able to take the people that he 360 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,119 Speaker 1: has in place and put them in positions to be successful. 361 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: So I had a great relationship with Cliff when who 362 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: he was in New England. We all it's always good 363 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: to see him and catch up and quite frankly not 364 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: surprised the success that he's had that he's having with 365 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: his team, and they've done a great job. Between him 366 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: and Steve Kime, they've put together a really good team 367 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: and you know that's the reason they're one of them. 368 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: They're the only undefeated team in the league right now. 369 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: That was relatively early in your time with New England. 370 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: Not the early est, but relatively early. When you look 371 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: at some of these young guys who do jobs like 372 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: quality control or whatever, how difficult is it to spot 373 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: um that might be a future head coach. I mean 374 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: these guys we had Matt Lafleur here in this building 375 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: and Rob Stalar and guys like that when they were 376 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: you know, just in cubicles here and look at them now. 377 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: So what about that part of it? Yeah? I actually 378 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: Matt was a quarterback when I was a graduate assistant 379 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: at Saginaw Valley. So may you're watching Matt Lafleur play quarterback, 380 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: you're not going, well, he's going to be the head 381 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: coach of the Green Baby. Yeah, so forever all of us. 382 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: Really it's just about an opportunity. It's about a starting 383 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: point and then really it's about the work that you 384 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,719 Speaker 1: put in with whatever role that you have. And someone 385 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: need to see that and then extend you an olive 386 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: branch and say, you know what, we think you have 387 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: a chance to maybe be successful. And it's really about 388 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 1: what you do with your job performance wherever you are, 389 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 1: and all of us along the way are blessed to 390 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 1: be given an opportunity to do something. So you mentioned, 391 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: you know, Matt was here earlier in his career. Coach 392 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: Solo was here earlier in his career. I think you're 393 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: when you get into football, you're always kind of envisioning 394 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 1: at some point if I can ever be a sent 395 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: to a role that's bigger than the one, and in 396 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: now that you just all of us have those aspirations, 397 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: you try not to put a timetable on it, and 398 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: you just try to apply yourself day in and day 399 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: out and just really work. The most important thing I 400 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 1: think all of us just need to keep in mind 401 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 1: is it's all about work. So if you focus on 402 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 1: the work and you put out a good product, the 403 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: rest of it will take care of itself. So I'd 404 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 1: say Cliff is a good example of that. Goes from 405 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 1: third string quarterback or practice squad quarterback too, started his 406 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: coaching career, got an opportunity. He was actually here at 407 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: the very Houston right as a part of I think coaches, yeah, 408 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 1: coach someone's staff. So a matter of fact, when Cliff 409 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: was coaching here, I did a campus visit. When I 410 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: think Keenham was a quarterback, I think they had Case 411 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: and they along the way, they had Kevin Cobb as well. 412 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of good players. So you never realize, Okay, well, 413 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: guys coaching quarterbacks in the University Houston, he's gonna end 414 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: up as the head coach of the Arizona Cardinals. Nobody 415 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,360 Speaker 1: really thinks that. In your mind, you're hoping that happens, 416 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: but that'sterally not how it works. So I think in 417 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: the end, you're just fortunate and blessed to have the 418 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: opportunity that's presented to you and just try to take 419 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 1: advantage of that while you're there. A guy that was 420 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: also in this building was Vans Joseph now was defensive coordinator. 421 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: There were arisone. You talk about explosive players offensively, it 422 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 1: feels like they've got explosive players defensively as well. Obviously 423 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: explosive being different, but it seems like they have that 424 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: on the defensive side. What do you see on outside 425 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 1: of the ball with Advance has gotten no question, aggressive coach, 426 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: and they really have really good players at all three 427 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: levels of the defense. So it's not just well the 428 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: defensive line, the linebackers that they have literally I would 429 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: say great players at all three levels. I mean two 430 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 1: of arguably the best players, whether it's you know, defensive 431 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: tackleing JJ Chandler Jones is a disruptive a defensive player 432 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: in the league. One guy that probably is a little 433 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 1: bit underrated, but is a really good football Player's Hicks. 434 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: So he's very consistent, very instinctive, very productive. They drafted 435 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 1: Simmons last year kind of was a hybrid role. He's 436 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: big and fast. They drafted Collins in the first round 437 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: this year. And then you go to the secondary and 438 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: you got the Tasmanian devil playing back there in Buddha Baker. 439 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 1: I mean five nine ninety pounds, but he plays like 440 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: he's two hundred twenty five pounds. So they challenge you 441 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 1: in a lot of different areas. And mit Vance's mentality 442 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: is to play very aggressively, So it's a combination of 443 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 1: coverage's combination of blitz, but they play with i'd say 444 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 1: an attacking mentality and attacking mindset, and you have to 445 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: be cognizant of where their players are because they can 446 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: wreck the game any handful of them on one single play. 447 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 1: I've got one more for you, the Tasmanian devil quality, 448 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: which is my own term. Okay, well, you said Tasmanian 449 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: devil using that for draft covers now, but I think 450 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 1: there is there is a quality, right You must see 451 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: some guys in college who have that, and it might 452 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: not necessarily translate because maybe they just can't do it 453 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: at this level, but that's a special quality to have 454 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: right where you just relentless energy all over the place. 455 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: You can't teach that, so it's an ania quality. And 456 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: then when you overlay that with a physical skill or characteristic, 457 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: which I would say when you see Buddha play, you know, 458 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: he just it speaks to you and just jumps off 459 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:23,719 Speaker 1: the film. And he was that way at the University 460 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: of Washington, which they've had a lot of good football 461 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 1: players in the secondary. I mean Murphy, you know by 462 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: their starting corner in second year University of Washington, really productive, 463 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: really instincton player, a good ball skills there same secondaries Buddha. 464 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 1: Buddha played nickel corner. Actually he was a slock corner. 465 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 1: He played more slock corner than did safety, so it 466 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: drafted to play safety. And again he's just he has 467 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: this playing style that you had. He plays fast, he 468 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: plays very explosively, and at safety there's an instinctive component 469 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,959 Speaker 1: as well that's involved, and he possesses those qualities. So 470 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 1: when you put it together, there's a reason why they 471 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: made him one of the highest paid safety's in the 472 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: league two or three years ago when they extended him, 473 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: and hopefully so I was so worried that you guys 474 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: are going to draft him in New England. When he 475 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: came out, I was like, that dude is a he's 476 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: a patriot the way the way that they can figure 477 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 1: this out, and they're gonna put him in at nicol 478 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 1: and he's gonna wreck shop in Arizona draft and was like, oh, 479 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: thank god, thank god he does he kind of he 480 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: epitomizes what you sort of want a football player to be. First, 481 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: all physical, fearless, fast, I mean, leader. I mean he's 482 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: pretty much everything you can throw measurables out the window. 483 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 1: There's a good example. He's five nine huninety pounds, so 484 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 1: you say, well, he's not the prototypical size or safety. 485 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: Who cares? This guy's a phenomenal football player. And that's 486 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: the truth. All right, Nick, thanks so much of the time. 487 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: Good luck this week. Thanks guys, appreciate it. Take care. 488 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 1: That's the man himself. Nick as serio general manager. Got 489 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: a lot of things going on, as I mentioned going 490 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: into an interview. The alleged news about Deshaun Watson trade 491 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: to Miami came out on Wednesday. We spoke with Nick 492 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: on Tuesday, so that didn't come up in our discussion. 493 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,360 Speaker 1: It will be something obviously the three of us will 494 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: be able to discuss when it becomes official, if and 495 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,199 Speaker 1: when it becomes official. So keep that in mind. All Right. 496 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: A little bit of news I guess on the field, 497 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 1: and that is the injury report always comes out on Wednesday. 498 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: I'm always curious to see how that thing is going 499 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 1: to look, especially from the Texans side of things. And today, Hey, 500 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: Justin britt deal with the need did not participate. Terrence 501 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: Brooks had that chest injury that took him out of 502 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: the game against Indianapolis, Jolille Johnson deal with a back issue, 503 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,479 Speaker 1: and the Brandy Cooks not injury related. So those are 504 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: four DMPs today practice. Now for the Cardinals, they've got 505 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:40,199 Speaker 1: a pretty long list in names. Some of them you know, 506 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 1: some of you don't, but they're all key to what 507 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: the Cardinals do. Kelvin Beecham starting tackle, deal with ribs, 508 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: Darryl Daniels hamstring, Kylie Fits concussion, Jordan Hicks a toe 509 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: in an ankle, Devin Cannard shoulder, Shard Lawrence and Justin Pugh. 510 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 1: Those guys all dealing with issues did not participate. Oh also, 511 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins didn't participate not injury related, that is, that 512 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: is his rest day, So hop I'll be ready to go. 513 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:12,199 Speaker 1: I'm I'm not worried about that. But the Cardinals do 514 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: have the Packers next week, and I would guarantee you 515 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: that they are thinking about that game more than more 516 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: than anything else. Yeah, They've got the Packers and THENCE 517 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: at San Francisco, So you know, who's to say what 518 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: they're gonna do with their injury situation if they feel 519 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 1: like they can rest some guys and get away with it. 520 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: But we'll see how that all goes. Now. One transaction 521 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: piece today, the Texans added Jimmy Morrissey rookie from Pitt 522 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: Center because of Justin bridd obviously dealing with the issues 523 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: he's been dealing with with his knee. So Jimmy Morrisey 524 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: added to the roster. And I don't even know what 525 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: the roster sits out right now. Things just move so 526 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 1: fluidly with COVID issues. Oh. The other one, Ross Blacklock, 527 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: coming back from COVID nineteen. Was great to see Ross 528 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: back at practice today and hopefully he could be ready 529 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: to go as soon as possible. Don't know if that'll 530 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: be this Sunday. Against the Cardinals. But hopefully he'll get 531 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: ramped up and be ready to go very soon. 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She's a team reporter for the Arizona Cardinals, 551 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 1: sitting at six and l, the only undefeated team in 552 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 1: the NFL. This team seems pretty talented in all phases. 553 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 1: Does this Cardinals team have any weaknesses? If we were 554 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 1: going into this last week's game against the Browns, it 555 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: would have been really easy to say it's the run defense. 556 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: But of all weeks for this Cardinals defense to figure 557 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: it out, it was this past week against the Browns, 558 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: who had the number one rushing team in the league, 559 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: and they held them to just seventy three rushing yards. 560 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: So it seems like on both sides of the ball, 561 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 1: this Cardinals team has really found a way to be cohesive. 562 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: And they've done so with injuries and adversity not only 563 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: with players, but with coaches as well, who weren't on 564 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:59,120 Speaker 1: the sideline. So there aren't any blaring, you know, concerns 565 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: on this team right now. And I think that's what 566 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 1: makes them so scary is there's not necessarily one easy 567 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 1: part about this team for opponents to pinpoint to attack. Yeah, 568 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: you mentioned the missing the coaches. I was gonna say, yeah, 569 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 1: last week, maybe not having your head coach on this island, 570 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 1: but that really didn't even seem to be too much 571 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,360 Speaker 1: of a deterrent for a Cardinals team that really beat 572 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: up on the Browns. So club kings Murray. Obviously we 573 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 1: know how the COVID protocols go. But if he doesn't go, 574 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: if he doesn't get his two negative tests, obviously he 575 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 1: can't be on the sidelines against the Texans. But if 576 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: he is, do you think there's anything that he could 577 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,360 Speaker 1: take out of that Browns game that maybe he might 578 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: do in the future, like delegate play calling or do 579 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 1: anything differently since it did seem to go so well. 580 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: I'm not sure about delegating play calling by any means, 581 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: but I think maybe giving Kyler Murray some extra freedom. 582 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that in the sense that he's 583 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 1: you know, had him changed and just doesn't take Kyler 584 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: Murray's input at all, because that's not the case. But 585 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 1: after the game, Kyler even kind of joked about having 586 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,439 Speaker 1: a little more freedom making those audibles as he's reading 587 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,679 Speaker 1: the defense. So I would think maybe that would be 588 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 1: something that maybe that might change moving forward. But we 589 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 1: heard from all of the coaches that the reason they 590 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: were able to so seamlessly fill those roles because Cliff 591 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,880 Speaker 1: Kingsberry is not only the head coach, he's the offensive 592 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 1: coordinator and he's the play callers. So there were a 593 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 1: lot of moving parts for this game. We heard defensive 594 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 1: coordinator Vance Joseph who split those head coaching responsibilities. He 595 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: talked to the media after the game. And so the 596 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: reason it was so seamless is because of how Cliff 597 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: Kingsberry creates the game plan and throughout like works with 598 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 1: the coaches throughout the week, So it really wasn't too 599 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: difficult for them to step in and take over those responsibilities. 600 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: All Right. You mentioned Kyler Murray. So it's year three 601 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: for him so far this year fourteen touchdowns, four interceptions, 602 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 1: three rushing touchdowns. It seems like he's using his legs less. 603 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 1: Do you think that's part of his success this year? 604 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: And how have they approached using his legs versus using 605 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,640 Speaker 1: his arm to get some of those first downs. That's 606 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,719 Speaker 1: absolutely been intentional. That the key is to keep your 607 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 1: quarterback safe and healthy, and Kyler has the skills to 608 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: get out of the pocket, to scramble and extend those 609 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: plays and they're not trying to take that away from him, 610 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,199 Speaker 1: but not necessarily have him focused so much on the 611 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: run game. And they don't really need to this year 612 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: because you have Chase Edmonds in the backfield as your starter, 613 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: you're shifty running back. But they brought in James Conner 614 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: this offseason and that's been their downhill guy to wear 615 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: off these defenses. So he has his weapons in the backfield, 616 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: and we know he has plenty of options down the 617 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: field with DeAndre Hopkins, Christian Kirk, aj Green, Rondale Moore, 618 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 1: there's plenty of options for Kyler Murray to choose instead 619 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: of just using his legs. We actually saw that against 620 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: the Browns that were a couple of plays where Kyler 621 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: had yards in front of him to take, but instead 622 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: he waited for the play to carry on, went through 623 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: his checkdowns, and ended up passing the ball instead. So 624 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: it's definitely been intentional for this Cardinals offense to not 625 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: rely on Kyler Murray to use his legs so much 626 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, you mentioned DeAndre Hopkins. Obviously, we've seen 627 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: the mind blowing plays that he makes on the field 628 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: and the touchdown catches. He is second in the NFL 629 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: with six touchdown catches. But I saw something a few 630 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: weeks ago where people we're talking about his lack of receptions. 631 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: Is that just a matter of having so many weapons 632 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 1: on offense, or is there a concerted effort to get 633 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: more targets for Hopkins. I think it is just trying 634 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 1: to spread the wealth, and I think it's more so 635 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: it's really a respect to DeAndre Hopkins because he is 636 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: one of the best in the league of that position, 637 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: and so opponents are going to key on him. Of course, 638 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 1: they're gonna want to double team him, They're gonna want 639 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: to put their best cornerbacks on him. And look, if 640 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: you leave DeAndre Hopkins one on one, it's not even 641 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: really a fifty fifty chance, it's it's gonna go to 642 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: d hop But by a defense is focusing on Hopkins, 643 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: that's allowing aj Green, Christian Kirk Ronjoe Moore to get 644 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: open and make those big plays. And remember, there's gonna 645 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: be new Arizona Cardinal on the field this week and 646 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: tight end Zach Ert, so I would expect he's going 647 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: to get some looks as well. So it's not necessarily 648 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: that they're not targeting DeAndre Hopkins on purpose. It's just 649 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,719 Speaker 1: that he's getting so much attention from the opponents that 650 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:10,719 Speaker 1: it's leaving these other receivers open. Okay, so you mentioned 651 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: zach Ertz. We saw the news recently that the Arizona 652 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: Cardinals were going to trade for the Philadelphia Eagle after 653 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: they lost Max Williams to a knee injury. So what 654 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: is going on with the timing of that. Why was 655 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: it so important for them to sign Earths right now? 656 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:26,719 Speaker 1: Was it just a matter of getting another tight end. 657 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: Was it Earths that they really wanted. What did they 658 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: like about him and how he fits into this offense. 659 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: I think this team is understanding that they are hot 660 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: and this is you don't want to stop that momentum. 661 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: And Max Williams played such an important role not only 662 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: as a catching tight end, but as a blocker, and 663 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: so that's something that they were looking to replace in 664 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 1: zach Ertz, who throughout the league we've kind of known 665 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: throughout the media. He's been wanting out of Philadelphia for 666 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: the last couple of years, and this just seemed like 667 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: the right fit for him to come to a team 668 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: that is winning, that has an explosive offense and has 669 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: a role for him to play, and you can't not 670 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 1: be excited about Zach. He's been in the league for 671 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: like almost a decade, pro bowler, he won the Super 672 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: Bowl with the Philadelphia Eagles, So I think the Cardinals 673 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: are really excited to get that skill set of not 674 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: only a reliable receiving tight end, but someone who can 675 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: really help in the blocking game as well. All Right, 676 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,479 Speaker 1: So JJ Watt, we've all seen what he can do 677 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: here in Houston, and Vance Joseph was actually defensive backs 678 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: coach here as well a while back, so they've had 679 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: their familiarity. And now JJ's in Arizona and I saw 680 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: that he put up his first stack of the year 681 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 1: in Cleveland. There's a lot of buzz about how well 682 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: Watt is playing for that defense, even though the numbers 683 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: may not necessarily reflect it. Is he doing anything differently 684 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 1: in Arizona than he was on this Texans defense. He 685 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 1: used to move around a lot on this d line. 686 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: So is there anything different that he's doing with the 687 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: Cardinals or is it really that same JJ just moving 688 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: around on the line. I think it's it's to an extent, 689 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 1: it's the same JJ. I mean, He's going to be 690 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 1: a monster anywhere you put him on the field. But recently, 691 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 1: when he was talking to us here the media this 692 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: past week or so, he was explaining that that's because 693 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: he's really just focused on his job. There are so 694 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: many playmakers here on this Cardinals defense, he doesn't necessarily 695 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 1: have to move around and always be that guy to 696 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: make the play, and so by just focusing on his job, 697 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: that's going to allow these other defenders Marcus Golden, Jordan Hicks, 698 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: who also had multiple sacks last week against the Browns. 699 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 1: That's going to allow them to get to the quarterback 700 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 1: and force fumbles. And it's also going to force the 701 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: opponents to know that they can't just focus on JJ Watt, 702 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 1: which of course is going to allow him more leverage 703 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: to get to the quarterback. So it's really just him, 704 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: he was saying, he's just focused on his job. But 705 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 1: he is coming off back to back amazing games the 706 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: forty nine ers and the Browns last week, and that's 707 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: just because he's getting comfortable in this scheme. He wasn't 708 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: participating throughout training camp, so of course it's going to 709 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 1: take a little time to get used to things. But 710 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: he is really picking up steam here and he's at 711 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: great games and that's not always based upon the stack numbers. 712 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: He had a strip sack and so that was recovered 713 00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: by the Cardinals and they put up seven points on 714 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: the following drive. It's so much more than just those 715 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: sack numbers. But jj Watt has absolutely had a phenomenal 716 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 1: last two weeks and they expect him to just continue 717 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: to trend upwards. Yeah, we thought that one of the 718 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: beneficiaries of jj Watt being there would be Chandler Jones, 719 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: and in that first game he had five sacks against Tennessee, 720 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 1: but he hasn't really put up the same sack number since. Now. 721 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: I know he's on the COVID list, or he was 722 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: on the COVID list, But you know, how has jj 723 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 1: Watt's presence affected Chandler Jones and some of the other 724 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: playmakers on that defense. I think when you have a 725 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 1: veteran who is as respected, has been so successful at 726 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 1: their position as you do with jj Watt, the other 727 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: players are going to take notice. They're going to look 728 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: at his work ethic on the practice field, and how 729 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: he's taking care of his body and focused in meetings, 730 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 1: and what he does in the games, and how he's 731 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: motivating other people and that leadership role, and that's huge 732 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 1: in the locker room. And so I think that when 733 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 1: you have someone with JJ Watt's experience and his leadership 734 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: and the way that he focuses on the game and 735 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: takes every snap so seriously, is so intense in his play, 736 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 1: it's infectious and so the other players are definitely going 737 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: to pick up on that and step their game up. 738 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: All right, Danny, I wanted to ask you about the 739 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 1: Cardinal schedules. Seems like they're playing really well on the 740 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 1: road and home games, even though they've won them have 741 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: been a lot closer. What do they make of that? 742 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 1: I think this team is really just what they say 743 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,799 Speaker 1: of being focused one and oh every week regardless of 744 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: where they're playing. They are six and oh, which is 745 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: the first time this franchise has started six and oh 746 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 1: since nineteen seventy four. So it's really taking a lot 747 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 1: mentally for this team, regardless of who or where they 748 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 1: are playing, to not get swept up in that being 749 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,839 Speaker 1: undefeated is not the end goal, and this team will 750 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 1: tell you that. So it's really starting to get to 751 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 1: the point of the season where mentally it's really tough 752 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,879 Speaker 1: of you have to stay focused of not getting caught 753 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: up in the fact that you're undefeated and you're beating 754 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 1: these teams, these good teams. I think that's something maybe 755 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: the national media is kind of missing in their coverage 756 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 1: with the Cardinals, But that's what they're focused on, not 757 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 1: necessarily whether they're on the road or at home, just 758 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,839 Speaker 1: that one and oh mentality every week. Now they do 759 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 1: get to be back at State Farm Stadium, they have 760 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: been on the road a lot so far this year, 761 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: so they've got two game homestand they've got the Texans 762 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: and then Thursday night football against the Packers. So they're 763 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: excited to be home and be around their fans, but 764 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: they're still having to really stay focused mentally on just 765 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 1: one and oh every week, because you don't want to 766 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 1: get caught up in the confidence or the attention from 767 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 1: the media of being undefeated. What are they making of 768 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,839 Speaker 1: this Texans team coming out to face them at home? 769 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 1: Obviously the record is not where the Texans want it 770 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 1: to be, but six and out team facing the Texans 771 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 1: who only won one game this year, how are they 772 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 1: sort of viewing this matchup? I think it just goes 773 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 1: back to the last question about this being really tough 774 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: mentally of any team. It doesn't matter what the record 775 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,800 Speaker 1: is the team you're facing. Anything can happen in the NFL. 776 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 1: Every player, every team is a good team at this 777 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: point in their career. So it's about staying mentally focused 778 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 1: and again not comparing the fact you're going into a 779 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 1: game as an undefeated Cardinal team going up against a 780 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 1: one in five text on the team that's been struggling. 781 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 1: You know, the Cardinals are not going to want to 782 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 1: play down to anyone by any means. They're just gonna 783 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 1: want to stay focused and just try and get this 784 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 1: win and then move on to Green Bay. It's gonna 785 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 1: be a very quick week here in Arizona. All right, 786 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 1: great stuff there from Deepe and from Danny about these 787 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. All Right, when we get back, it's in 788 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:30,240 Speaker 1: the Lab, Drew Doherty and myself sit down and wax 789 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 1: nostalgic about a former Texan, a man we got to 790 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 1: know very very well and respected more than just about 791 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,800 Speaker 1: anybody that's walked in that building. And that's Whitney Merciless 792 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 1: in the lab. Next right here in Texas All Access Excess, 793 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 1: Welcome back this Wednesday edition to Texans All Access. I'm 794 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 1: your host, John Harrin's football analyst sideline reporter. It's time 795 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 1: for a little bit of a snippet of our discussion 796 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 1: of in the Lab. That's Drew Doherty and myself and 797 00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,760 Speaker 1: this week, well we waxed nostalgic, if you will, about 798 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,760 Speaker 1: one Whitney Merciless. But before we get into our interview 799 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 1: with Whitney Merciless, you want to remind you that this season, 800 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 1: Mattress Firm is giving away two tickets, custom jerseys, Tarasco's 801 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 1: club passes and parking to two lucky fans each week. 802 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 1: Visit Houston Texans dot com slash Dream Big Experience to 803 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:21,919 Speaker 1: enter to win. We're gonna tell a couple of fun 804 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,799 Speaker 1: stories about Whitney because he's been here a decade, you know, 805 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 1: and aside from John Weeks, he was the longest tenured 806 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: Texan here this season. So John Weeks remains, and John 807 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 1: Weeks put out a nice Instagram post showing the two 808 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,400 Speaker 1: of them walking out to midfield and talk about how 809 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,919 Speaker 1: his family and Whitney himself put up a nice thank 810 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,800 Speaker 1: you post to Houston and the McNary family in the 811 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:45,239 Speaker 1: Texans organization. He is moving on, but I'm gonna tell 812 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 1: two stories and I'll get out of the way. Or 813 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell one story. You tell one story and 814 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,320 Speaker 1: then I'll tell another and then I'll get out of 815 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 1: the way. But in twenty ten, eleven, twelve, and thirteen, 816 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 1: I was at the airport the Friday morning of the draft, 817 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 1: so Texans would have a first rounder on Thursday night. 818 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 1: They'd fly him into town on Friday morning with his 819 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 1: family and they basically show him around the building. He'd 820 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,280 Speaker 1: have a press conference, he'd meet with the front office folks, 821 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,839 Speaker 1: as coaches, the equipment people. Kind of a whirlwind day 822 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 1: for the guy. And when I was there doing that 823 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,400 Speaker 1: back in those days, it was me and a guy 824 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 1: named Shaan Washington, who I don't know exactly what he did, 825 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 1: but he did just about everything YE did well. And 826 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:30,919 Speaker 1: it was the two of us and we would ride 827 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 1: in the limo to Intercontinental Airport, and I had a 828 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,880 Speaker 1: camera and a microphone, and he had some other stuff 829 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 1: like some hats and stuff with the family and some 830 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 1: newspaper article. When the family and the player would come 831 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 1: out of the secure area, we were there to meet 832 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,239 Speaker 1: him and he'd introduce himself and then I'd say Hi, 833 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,759 Speaker 1: I'm Drew. It's good to meet you. We're gonna put 834 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 1: this microphone on you and we're gonna record your experiences. 835 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 1: So did that with Jackson, did that with JJ Watt, 836 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 1: did it with Whitney, Merciless, did it with DeAndre Hopkins, 837 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 1: And it was pretty fun. And it was fun seeing 838 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:10,920 Speaker 1: the Merciless family, his parents' brother go through what they 839 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 1: went through. And I was in the limo ride from 840 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,719 Speaker 1: the airport here and he's just a great dude and 841 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,279 Speaker 1: coming out. You remember this at Illinois his final year there, 842 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:23,720 Speaker 1: he led the NC double A in sacks and enforced fumbles. 843 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,360 Speaker 1: This was a bonafide pass rusher. And they're adding to 844 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 1: that twenty eleven defense, you thought, and making it even 845 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 1: better for twenty twelve. And he didn't play a whole 846 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 1: lot in twelve, but in spurts he did some nice things. 847 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 1: I think he had three sacks, and you know, it 848 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 1: was just a cool thing to be a part and 849 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,839 Speaker 1: see that that first day, that wonder because I'm sure 850 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 1: their heads are spinning or worse spinning at the time, 851 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,400 Speaker 1: and they're going to a new place and they're excited. 852 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,880 Speaker 1: He was excited to be here, and he knew that 853 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 1: the Texans were winning at that point and had high expectations, 854 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,920 Speaker 1: and he was pumped to be a part of it. 855 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,880 Speaker 1: So that's one of the first things I thought of 856 00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 1: when I saw the news, and I was bummed and 857 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,320 Speaker 1: a bum for him. On a personal I understand football 858 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,839 Speaker 1: wise why it's all going down, but he's a good, 859 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,760 Speaker 1: good dude, and I had a lot of fun times 860 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,239 Speaker 1: with interviewing him and being around him over the years. 861 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 1: I'll tell another one a little bit, But you know, 862 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,399 Speaker 1: what's the first thing you thought of when you saw 863 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 1: what was going down with Merciless, Well, the first emotion 864 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 1: is just sad because he when like you said, when 865 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 1: he showed up, From the time he showed up in 866 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:29,920 Speaker 1: twenty twelve through now and hopefully this extends for decades 867 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 1: and decades. He became Houston. He really became a renaissance 868 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 1: man of Houston, creating a restaurant concept with his restaurant entrepreneurs, 869 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 1: Chris Sheppard charities. Yeah, Chris Shepherd, a great fan of 870 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:52,719 Speaker 1: the Texans. The things that he did for Houston just 871 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 1: tick tick. The football. We'll talk about the football, but 872 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,880 Speaker 1: the football thing aside, just what he did for Houston 873 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 1: what he did for fans, emilies. UM, I know his charity. 874 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 1: He focused his charity at different points on different um 875 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 1: different sort of other charitable endeavors, kind of within it, 876 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 1: kind of like he was doing with his restaurant concept 877 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,359 Speaker 1: where the different things, Yeah, he would mix it up. 878 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 1: In one of those um that he did, he focused 879 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 1: on kids with autism. And obviously that strikes, you know, 880 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 1: pretty close to my heart and I just, you know, 881 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:31,239 Speaker 1: everything he did just reeked of such professionalism, such love 882 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,799 Speaker 1: for the city, such love for people, And that was 883 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,440 Speaker 1: probably the first thing that hit me. Now I did 884 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 1: see earlier today, I believe that Witty apparently will sign 885 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 1: with the Green Bay Packers. Now, for those of you 886 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 1: who don't know, I was born in Wisconsin. I lived 887 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:50,759 Speaker 1: there till I was eleven, and then I got to 888 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 1: Houston and Texas as fast as I as I could. 889 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 1: And to me, I'm a Texan. But if I am 890 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 1: a fan of another football team outside of the Texans, 891 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,320 Speaker 1: whenever we don't play the Green Bay Packers, I'm cheering 892 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,480 Speaker 1: for the Green Bay Packers. So Witt goes to a 893 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 1: team that I hope gets an opportunity to do some 894 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,640 Speaker 1: good things, playing some big games and get some big wins. 895 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 1: Wit deserves that, and wish him the best of luck 896 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 1: in Green Bay. If that is in fact, I believe 897 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,400 Speaker 1: that's where he is going to go. Tip of the 898 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:25,840 Speaker 1: cap to one of the very best, to where a 899 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,799 Speaker 1: Texans Jersey Whitney Merciless. All right, we get back, We're 900 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 1: gonna go. Men behind them, Bike, Dave Pash the Voice 901 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 1: of the Cardinals with our good friend Mark Vandemer. Next 902 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 1: on Texas All Access. We've got one hour in the books, 903 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,840 Speaker 1: one hour left to go right here on a Wednesday 904 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,919 Speaker 1: edition of Texans All Access. There's a lot of literation there. 905 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:49,280 Speaker 1: I kind of like Wednesday, where when what Wednesday? Wacky Wild, 906 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,160 Speaker 1: all those kind of things work. I don't think I'm 907 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:55,319 Speaker 1: any of those. Maybe wild. I don't know who's to say, 908 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 1: but I'm John Harris Football, I know a sideline reporter. 909 00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 1: So glad to be with you, and it's time to 910 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 1: go to our men behind the mics. This segment was 911 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 1: my brain child many many years ago, and Mark Vandomir 912 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 1: has made it work every single week since. I don't 913 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:11,920 Speaker 1: know that we did it back in twenty seventeen. I 914 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:13,279 Speaker 1: think we did. I think we've done this all the 915 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,400 Speaker 1: way back to twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, so we have 916 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,879 Speaker 1: talked with Dave Pass, but it's been four years. Mark 917 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,839 Speaker 1: catches up with Dave passed again four years later, and well, 918 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,759 Speaker 1: things are quite different in Arizona, to say the least. 919 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:29,600 Speaker 1: Here's Mark Vandemir with Dave Pash, the voice of the Cardinals, 920 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,279 Speaker 1: joining us right now at Texans Radio. Dave Pass the 921 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:36,400 Speaker 1: voice of the Arizona Cardinals. And Dave just three short 922 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:40,239 Speaker 1: years ago, you had a three and thirteen record. The 923 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,719 Speaker 1: team drafts Kyler Murray. The rest is history, not so much, 924 00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,680 Speaker 1: not so fast really, But tell me about this rebuild. 925 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 1: Obviously it's going well right now at six and all. Yeah, 926 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,439 Speaker 1: I'm Mark. Good to talk to you man. First of all, 927 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:56,480 Speaker 1: it does feel like that never happened that year, that 928 00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:00,680 Speaker 1: three win season. Steve Wilkes the head coach, Josh Rosen 929 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,319 Speaker 1: and Sam Bradford were the quarterback. Sam Bradford started the year, 930 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,239 Speaker 1: and then they inserted Rosen, who was their first round pick, 931 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,800 Speaker 1: and then you know, they just did a complete wash 932 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,960 Speaker 1: the following year and drafted another quarterback for the second 933 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,920 Speaker 1: straight year, and hired a coach that had been a 934 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 1: head coach, but not in the NFL. And you know 935 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:24,400 Speaker 1: it took some time, but I think the team that 936 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:28,880 Speaker 1: Steve Kind, the GM has assembled, the personnel surrounding Kyler 937 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,480 Speaker 1: Murray and the leadership surrounding him is put him in 938 00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:36,880 Speaker 1: the best position to succeed. And you know, there's there's times. 939 00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:40,399 Speaker 1: I mean, I remember when the Cardinals last started, when 940 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 1: they started four and oh, when they got their fourth win, 941 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,480 Speaker 1: it was the first time since twenty twelve, and that 942 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,480 Speaker 1: team finished five and eleven. And you remember when that 943 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,840 Speaker 1: team started four and oh, like you knew they weren't good. 944 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,680 Speaker 1: They got lucky. And but this team's different. You know, 945 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,480 Speaker 1: a win at Tennessee, a win at Cleveland, a win 946 00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:00,200 Speaker 1: at the Rams home against the Niners. I mean, had 947 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:04,200 Speaker 1: got some quality wins and some convincing wins. So it 948 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,880 Speaker 1: feels a lot different right now. Well, let's take me 949 00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,560 Speaker 1: through the Murray decision, because look, it's working out very well, 950 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,919 Speaker 1: but there's so much uncertainty when you draft a guy high. 951 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:18,400 Speaker 1: You just had Rosen selected by the franchise and then 952 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 1: they go for Murray, who has a unique skill set. 953 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,759 Speaker 1: It's outstanding obviously, and again it's working out, but what 954 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,800 Speaker 1: was the feeling around the organization and around the city 955 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:34,360 Speaker 1: when they went for that pick, well, I think because 956 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:38,600 Speaker 1: the previous year was so bad that people were fine 957 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,319 Speaker 1: with it. You know, it wasn't like there were a 958 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,840 Speaker 1: lot of people questioning why you would take a quarterback again. 959 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,160 Speaker 1: You know, Josh Rosen played okay, but it wasn't like 960 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,200 Speaker 1: he lit it up and you are convinced that he 961 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,320 Speaker 1: was the guy. I'm in fact, you know, there probably 962 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,160 Speaker 1: were some people that said, oh, you should take Nick 963 00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:56,640 Speaker 1: Bosan build around Josh Rosen. But I think when they 964 00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,520 Speaker 1: watched the film, they saw what you know, we're seeing 965 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:03,760 Speaker 1: now that Kyler Murray is just different. He's so unique. 966 00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:07,279 Speaker 1: He's a special talent and it's you know, he's a 967 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,439 Speaker 1: once in a lifetime player. So you got to pull 968 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,440 Speaker 1: the trigger and you live with it, and you know, 969 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,920 Speaker 1: the the other moves that they've made. You know, it's 970 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,120 Speaker 1: one thing to draft the guy and then not to 971 00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,160 Speaker 1: compliment him with talent and give him a good offensive line. 972 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,480 Speaker 1: You know, the trade for Rodney Hudson although he's out 973 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,600 Speaker 1: right now, the trade for DeAndre Hopkins, the signing of 974 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,320 Speaker 1: you know, JJ Watt. Obviously you're familiar with both those guys, 975 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:34,879 Speaker 1: those you know, those go a long way to help 976 00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,960 Speaker 1: a quarterback have success. All right, As a play by 977 00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,279 Speaker 1: play guy, I have to tell you this about Hopkins. 978 00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:44,480 Speaker 1: There were many occasions where I couldn't believe he caught 979 00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,040 Speaker 1: the ball where it would be on the sideline and 980 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,640 Speaker 1: it seems like his body is two yards out of 981 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,520 Speaker 1: bounds and there's no way he got that one. And 982 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,279 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, they're gonna rule out a catch. Well 983 00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,759 Speaker 1: let's look at it. Oh yeah, the toes got down. 984 00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,960 Speaker 1: He had maybe one of those a game. It felt 985 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,760 Speaker 1: like when he was here and I was calling the games, 986 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,840 Speaker 1: how do you see his abilities from the booth doing 987 00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 1: what you do and his craft? Oh yeah, exactly the 988 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,560 Speaker 1: same way. First of all, I just can't get over 989 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,480 Speaker 1: how big his hands are. He looks like he's holding 990 00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:20,880 Speaker 1: like two buckets. He's got just enormous hands. He's had 991 00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:24,320 Speaker 1: a couple of catches, you know, the Hill Mary last year, 992 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:29,160 Speaker 1: but some other plays where how did he catch that ball? Like, 993 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:31,400 Speaker 1: how on earth did he get his feet down and 994 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,680 Speaker 1: catch the ball? He had a touchdown last week where 995 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,640 Speaker 1: he spun away from three guys. I mean, he just 996 00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,640 Speaker 1: to me, he's the best receiver in the NFL, and 997 00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:44,200 Speaker 1: he's been that for several years, and he just does 998 00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:48,279 Speaker 1: things that most guys can't. And then you know, your 999 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,960 Speaker 1: couple him now with you know, there was a lot 1000 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:54,080 Speaker 1: of attention with him last year, but now you get 1001 00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:57,400 Speaker 1: Aj Green, Christian Kirk's playing better, Rondelle Moore is a 1002 00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:02,160 Speaker 1: big piece. Now you had Zach Ertz. It's just you 1003 00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:06,000 Speaker 1: can't worry solely about DeAndre Hopkins like you could last year. 1004 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:07,520 Speaker 1: And they're moving him around a little bit more than 1005 00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,880 Speaker 1: they did last year too, but he's flat out amazing. 1006 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,680 Speaker 1: Dave Pash, voice of the arison A Cardinals, joining us 1007 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,680 Speaker 1: on Texans Radio. All Right, we all saw the wat 1008 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:19,240 Speaker 1: sack with Mayfield getting hurt on the play last week, 1009 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,360 Speaker 1: But how is what doing in general in your opinion? 1010 00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,239 Speaker 1: I know he does a lot of things that don't 1011 00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:28,120 Speaker 1: really show up on the stat sheet very often. Right, Yeah, Yeah, 1012 00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:31,359 Speaker 1: last week, though from a production standpoint, was his best game. 1013 00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,799 Speaker 1: The week prior to that was his best game. So 1014 00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,960 Speaker 1: he you know, he's kind of stacking his best games 1015 00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,000 Speaker 1: as a Cardinal on top of each other, so he's 1016 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,200 Speaker 1: getting better each week. He's been a menace. He's been 1017 00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,960 Speaker 1: a force. You know, they have not had Chandler Jones 1018 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,520 Speaker 1: the last few games. They've had some other guys hurt. 1019 00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,839 Speaker 1: And then with all the COVID stuff last week, you know, 1020 00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,720 Speaker 1: it obviously impacted the offense without Cliff Kingsbury and others. 1021 00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:56,759 Speaker 1: But you know there were some players on defense that 1022 00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:00,120 Speaker 1: were not available because of COVID, including Corey Peters. They 1023 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,239 Speaker 1: even know that until game day and he's part of 1024 00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,120 Speaker 1: the rotation. You know, they're not playing JJ Watt probably 1025 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,680 Speaker 1: as much as he played in Houston, but you know 1026 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,759 Speaker 1: his leadership, Like no, last year, the Cardinals a lot 1027 00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,080 Speaker 1: of times played down to their opponent, and I've never 1028 00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:16,399 Speaker 1: felt that that's you know, really on the coach. It's 1029 00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,319 Speaker 1: more on the locker room. And you've got a group 1030 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,360 Speaker 1: right now and JJ Watts a big reason why. You 1031 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,600 Speaker 1: know this. They're not going to let you have a letdown. 1032 00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,719 Speaker 1: They're not going to allow that, and that's something that 1033 00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,120 Speaker 1: wasn't here last year. And so JJ Watt's a big 1034 00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,480 Speaker 1: reason why the Cardinals are where they are right now 1035 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:39,000 Speaker 1: because of his leadership. Tell me something about Kingsbury because 1036 00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:42,000 Speaker 1: when the story broke after he was hired about he's 1037 00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:45,160 Speaker 1: going to give players cell phone breaks during meetings. It 1038 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,640 Speaker 1: seemed preposterous almost at the time, and then I look 1039 00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,600 Speaker 1: back on that now, I think that's just a really 1040 00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:54,120 Speaker 1: great idea. And the attention spans being what they are, 1041 00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,920 Speaker 1: mine included, I think it's a phenomenal idea. Tell me 1042 00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:01,080 Speaker 1: about that aspect of him, the way he can appeal 1043 00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:06,000 Speaker 1: to the players and live with their vibe. Well, two 1044 00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,719 Speaker 1: things about Cliff. First of all, I don't know that 1045 00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,880 Speaker 1: I've ever seen anybody that works harder. This guy is 1046 00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:13,840 Speaker 1: in there at like three thirty three forty five. And 1047 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,960 Speaker 1: the more Steve Kind told me a story that he 1048 00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,680 Speaker 1: couldn't sleep. This was after I think the Rams game. 1049 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,640 Speaker 1: Couldn't sleep. Went to the office at three thirty and 1050 00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:26,120 Speaker 1: Cliff's car is there, and Cliffs in his office. You know, 1051 00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,520 Speaker 1: he goes to bed early, gets up early, and grinds. 1052 00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,840 Speaker 1: So you know, there was And I knew Cliff from college, 1053 00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,120 Speaker 1: having covered him at Texas Tech and A and M, 1054 00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:38,239 Speaker 1: and even going back to Houston a little bit. And look, 1055 00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:41,280 Speaker 1: he's you know, he deserves some credit for the development 1056 00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:45,160 Speaker 1: of Patrick Mahomes and Baker Mayfield and case Keenum. I 1057 00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,400 Speaker 1: mean a quarterback, the three quarterbacks that were in the 1058 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,760 Speaker 1: game last week. You know, he's touched all of them. 1059 00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:54,399 Speaker 1: So I've always felt Cliff from it, just you know, 1060 00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,480 Speaker 1: knowing the quarterback position and knowing offense. You know, the 1061 00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,719 Speaker 1: guy is brilliant. And then when it comes to just 1062 00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,000 Speaker 1: his personality, he does have a little bit of an 1063 00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:04,680 Speaker 1: edge to him that I think is coming out more 1064 00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,040 Speaker 1: and his personality is coming out more, which is great 1065 00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,600 Speaker 1: because he's got a great personality. He's a great guy 1066 00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,719 Speaker 1: and I think players know that, like they know with him, 1067 00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,640 Speaker 1: you're what you see is what you get. He's not 1068 00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,640 Speaker 1: going to tell you something and then do something different 1069 00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,320 Speaker 1: behind the scenes. He is who he is and that 1070 00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,520 Speaker 1: that goes a long way, especially with veteran players, and 1071 00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:26,320 Speaker 1: they have a veteran team. So when you bring in 1072 00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:30,320 Speaker 1: JJ Watt and AJ Green and you've got other guys 1073 00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,759 Speaker 1: on this team that are over the age of thirty, 1074 00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,360 Speaker 1: you know, when you've got a head coach like that, 1075 00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:37,440 Speaker 1: that makes a big difference. When there is a trust 1076 00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,920 Speaker 1: factor there, and then you know he relates to young guys. 1077 00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,560 Speaker 1: He's been recruiting, he's used to recruiting. He's used to, 1078 00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:44,919 Speaker 1: you know, being able to relate to those guys so 1079 00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,680 Speaker 1: it's you know, I'm just I'm happy for him that 1080 00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,640 Speaker 1: things are working out this year because I felt some 1081 00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:56,080 Speaker 1: of the criticism last year, you know, was not warranted. Well, 1082 00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,080 Speaker 1: we were kind of teasing David Culley about not having 1083 00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:02,640 Speaker 1: Kingsbury's house, you know, not having the gigantic glass windows 1084 00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:06,320 Speaker 1: and the fireplace roaring and you know, the wardrobe and everything. 1085 00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:09,160 Speaker 1: He said, yeah, absolutely, I don't have that. I don't 1086 00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,839 Speaker 1: know if you do. Okay, No, no, nobody, I've never 1087 00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:15,520 Speaker 1: seen a house like that. No, that was awesome. Dave, 1088 00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:17,640 Speaker 1: tell me something about the Cardinals that's not getting a 1089 00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:21,640 Speaker 1: lot of pub outside of Phoenix, Say a player or two, 1090 00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,160 Speaker 1: or an aspect of the team that you feel is 1091 00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:28,160 Speaker 1: not getting the recognition it needs right now. Well, I 1092 00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,640 Speaker 1: think their defense is really good, advanced. Joseph's done a 1093 00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,759 Speaker 1: great job. That's probably one. You know, I think Vance 1094 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:35,960 Speaker 1: will get another chance to be a head coach if 1095 00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:40,440 Speaker 1: the Cardinals keep winning. The other is Colt McCoy. You know, 1096 00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,560 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray looked up to him, idolized him growing up, 1097 00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:48,040 Speaker 1: and so the move of bringing Colt was a calculated 1098 00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:53,640 Speaker 1: move to provide another voice and another person that Kyler respects. 1099 00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,560 Speaker 1: And I think Colt just has a way about him 1100 00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,400 Speaker 1: when he speaks to Kyler. I mean, he was involved in, 1101 00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,160 Speaker 1: you know, last week with some of you know, everything 1102 00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,120 Speaker 1: that was going on in terms of the operation, without 1103 00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,200 Speaker 1: Kingsbury and without you know, the quarterback coach. You know, 1104 00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,960 Speaker 1: he was involved. He was talking to Kyler a lot more, 1105 00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,160 Speaker 1: not that he didn't before, but it just felt like 1106 00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,360 Speaker 1: it was more than usual just kind of watching what 1107 00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:17,279 Speaker 1: was going on. So I would say those two things 1108 00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,680 Speaker 1: marked the defense, and you know Colt McCoy and his 1109 00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,080 Speaker 1: importance to the team. All Right, Dave, you're gonna call 1110 00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:25,680 Speaker 1: Ohio State in Indiana for ESPN or ABC really this 1111 00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:29,600 Speaker 1: week ESPN on ABC. But tell me about being a 1112 00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:33,160 Speaker 1: national guy doing those big time college games and everything 1113 00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:36,560 Speaker 1: else you do for ESPN and then being the voice 1114 00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,040 Speaker 1: of the Cardinals. And it's got to feel so different 1115 00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:42,000 Speaker 1: when you're the home team guy, but you're also a 1116 00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,319 Speaker 1: national guy and you have to shift gears into that. 1117 00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,799 Speaker 1: What's that like for you? Well, as you know Mark 1118 00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,400 Speaker 1: that one of the best things about doing a team 1119 00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:52,640 Speaker 1: is you get to be a fan. You get to 1120 00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:54,960 Speaker 1: you know, be a part of it, you get to 1121 00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,319 Speaker 1: you know, feel good when there's a win and you know, 1122 00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,200 Speaker 1: haven't hurt a little bit when there's a law and 1123 00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,120 Speaker 1: when you go through a tough season, but you get 1124 00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,439 Speaker 1: the thrill of I mean, I just remember the Super 1125 00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,840 Speaker 1: Bowl run of what that felt like. I'll never forget it. 1126 00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:11,440 Speaker 1: And I love my job at ESPN. I you know, 1127 00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:13,680 Speaker 1: I love every game. I get every assignment. I don't 1128 00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,120 Speaker 1: take for granted. But there definitely is a difference when 1129 00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:19,000 Speaker 1: you're doing a game where you feel like there's something 1130 00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:20,920 Speaker 1: on the line for you a little bit. And I'm 1131 00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,880 Speaker 1: sure that comes out when you broadcast the game. You know, 1132 00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,319 Speaker 1: you and I were the were the conduit to the 1133 00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,840 Speaker 1: fan that's listening, and you know they want to feel 1134 00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,759 Speaker 1: our joy and experience our pain as well, and so 1135 00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,239 Speaker 1: I kind of I just I kind of it's me 1136 00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,440 Speaker 1: when I'm calling that game. It's it's me, you know. 1137 00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:38,399 Speaker 1: And then when you do a national game, obviously you're 1138 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,000 Speaker 1: being unbiased, and TV, as you know, is a lot different. 1139 00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,600 Speaker 1: You're doing more storytelling. It's probably more of an analyst 1140 00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,520 Speaker 1: medium than play by play, where you know you and 1141 00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,239 Speaker 1: I are doing most of the talking. But you know, TV, 1142 00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,680 Speaker 1: your your analyst has involved more and you know you've 1143 00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,360 Speaker 1: broadcast elements, you've graphics, all these things. You have to 1144 00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,600 Speaker 1: get in a lot of big picture stuff, you know, 1145 00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:01,399 Speaker 1: promos all that, where with you know, the radio, You're 1146 00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:04,880 Speaker 1: you're just doing the game and it's really about your team. 1147 00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,960 Speaker 1: So it is very different. But I mean, man, it's 1148 00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:12,080 Speaker 1: been He's my eighteenth year ESPN twenty with the Cardinals, 1149 00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:13,839 Speaker 1: so it's you know, I've been doing it so long. 1150 00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,759 Speaker 1: I just I guess I just kind of default to 1151 00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,000 Speaker 1: eat to either one. It's not I don't really think 1152 00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:21,160 Speaker 1: about which one I'm doing. I just kind of, I 1153 00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:24,200 Speaker 1: guess I'm so used to it. Just you know, your 1154 00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:26,800 Speaker 1: routine and instincts just kind of take over. Well, you 1155 00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:29,440 Speaker 1: do a fantastic job, my friend, and it's great to 1156 00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:31,120 Speaker 1: talk with you. Look forward to seeing you in the 1157 00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:35,200 Speaker 1: booth on Sunday. Yeah, Mark anytime, man, look forward scene about. 1158 00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:38,160 Speaker 1: I do a lot of work for my roles aside 1159 00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:40,600 Speaker 1: the reporter for the team, and I do one game weekend, 1160 00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:42,560 Speaker 1: and I'm pretty much exhausted at the end of it. 1161 00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:47,080 Speaker 1: Dave Pash has play by play for College on Saturday 1162 00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,880 Speaker 1: and then NFL on Sunday. I don't know how the 1163 00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:51,760 Speaker 1: man does it. But he is one of my favorite 1164 00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:55,080 Speaker 1: to listen to. Obviously, Mark is my favorite, no doubt 1165 00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:57,760 Speaker 1: because he is such a close friend. He's my boss. 1166 00:55:58,200 --> 00:55:59,960 Speaker 1: I also work with him, so I love him to death. 1167 00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:01,960 Speaker 1: But they've passed. Is one of my favorites to listen to, 1168 00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:03,719 Speaker 1: so really really cool to see the two of them. 1169 00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,960 Speaker 1: And here the two of them on our air together. Ah. 1170 00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:10,000 Speaker 1: It is a where are they now? Wednesday? So Drew 1171 00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:11,760 Speaker 1: Doherty had a chance to catch up with a former 1172 00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:16,440 Speaker 1: linebacker the Texans, former wildcat from Kansas State, Zach Dials. 1173 00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:20,000 Speaker 1: They're next right here at Texans All Axis. Texans All 1174 00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:23,160 Speaker 1: acis Texans All Welcome back to Wednesday edition to Texans 1175 00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,719 Speaker 1: All Access. I'm your host, John Harris, football analyst, saith 1176 00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:29,520 Speaker 1: one reporter, and I got here in two thousand and seven. 1177 00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:33,280 Speaker 1: That's when I started with a new radio station, started 1178 00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:35,400 Speaker 1: a show with a guy I think you know, Sean Pendergas. 1179 00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:37,120 Speaker 1: We did this show for four years. It was very 1180 00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:39,760 Speaker 1: very successful. Then we sort of moved on into different 1181 00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:41,960 Speaker 1: phases and we are where we are. But in two 1182 00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,520 Speaker 1: thousand and seven, the Texans also drafted a young man 1183 00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:48,080 Speaker 1: by the name is Zach Dials, and Drew Doherty had 1184 00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:50,640 Speaker 1: a chance to catch up with the former Texans linebacker 1185 00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:53,800 Speaker 1: on a Wednesday Where are they Now? Drew taken Away. 1186 00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,160 Speaker 1: We got a good one today for a where are 1187 00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:59,760 Speaker 1: they now? Because Zach Dials a linebacker for the Houston 1188 00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:01,840 Speaker 1: Tech since from two thousand and seven through two thousand 1189 00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:05,680 Speaker 1: and ten and then again in twenty fourteen. You spent 1190 00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:09,879 Speaker 1: basically a decade in the NFL, and we're happy to 1191 00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:13,399 Speaker 1: talk with you now. First things first, Zach, where are 1192 00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:17,000 Speaker 1: you and what are you doing? Well? I appreciate that intro, 1193 00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:19,880 Speaker 1: that was dope. First things first, to where am I now? 1194 00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:22,520 Speaker 1: I live in Los Angeles. I came back to California, 1195 00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,840 Speaker 1: where I'm from, and I started doing real estate out 1196 00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,560 Speaker 1: here originally when I moved back to Los Angeles. Recently, 1197 00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:30,120 Speaker 1: there have been a little a few changes. I have 1198 00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:33,040 Speaker 1: a new job. I transitioned into a role at w 1199 00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:36,040 Speaker 1: and ME William Morris Endeavor on the sports side and 1200 00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,560 Speaker 1: on the football side of things. So I'm very very 1201 00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:41,880 Speaker 1: excited about that and getting started at that. But it's 1202 00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:43,680 Speaker 1: been a lot going on. Man, There's been a lot 1203 00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:45,880 Speaker 1: going on since since since I've since the playing days. 1204 00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:49,400 Speaker 1: Holy cow, that's a big so You're going to become 1205 00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,160 Speaker 1: an agent basically, is what you're saying. Or you are, Yeah, 1206 00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,440 Speaker 1: well that's that's that's the thing right now, I'm director 1207 00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:58,200 Speaker 1: of player development. Essentially, the goal is to become certified 1208 00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,200 Speaker 1: as an agent next year and hit the at the 1209 00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,520 Speaker 1: ground running and you know, passed down some of his 1210 00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:05,760 Speaker 1: knowledge that have attained over the course of my playing 1211 00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:07,680 Speaker 1: career and you know, on and off the field. So 1212 00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,400 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to to getting started in that. Yeah. 1213 00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:12,560 Speaker 1: I mean, you're the perfect guy to do that because 1214 00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:15,240 Speaker 1: you've seen both sides of it. Now. You're a seventh 1215 00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:18,040 Speaker 1: round pick in two thousand and seven, and if you 1216 00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:21,920 Speaker 1: look at the numbers, the odds are always stacked against 1217 00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,600 Speaker 1: guys drafted in the seventh round, less so in the sixth, 1218 00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:26,760 Speaker 1: and less so in the fifth. But you know it's 1219 00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,520 Speaker 1: tough as a seventh rounder. Yeah, you were there and 1220 00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:32,560 Speaker 1: you made the team, you started games, you played and 1221 00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:36,520 Speaker 1: hung around for a long long time. I imagine that's 1222 00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:38,280 Speaker 1: got a fuel a lot of what you do, and 1223 00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:40,440 Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff you can you know, a 1224 00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:42,440 Speaker 1: lot of wisdom you can impart on these guys when 1225 00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:45,520 Speaker 1: when you're talking with them about that, right exactly like 1226 00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:48,040 Speaker 1: you said, seventh round, played eight years and by year 1227 00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:50,320 Speaker 1: two in Houston, I was a starter. And you know, 1228 00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:52,160 Speaker 1: at that time when I was in Houston, I believe 1229 00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:54,680 Speaker 1: I was the lowest round, the lowest pick guy to 1230 00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,520 Speaker 1: ever make the roster, you know, out of training camp. 1231 00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:00,280 Speaker 1: So and like I said, in year two would be 1232 00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:02,360 Speaker 1: a starter. And then you know, eight weeks into the season, 1233 00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,600 Speaker 1: I break my legs. So I've been through every facet 1234 00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:06,720 Speaker 1: of the NFL, you know, the highest, the lows, the 1235 00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:09,480 Speaker 1: you know, just the grind of it all, you know, 1236 00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:12,080 Speaker 1: coming in essentially from you know, just had my foot 1237 00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:14,000 Speaker 1: stuck in the door before they shut it, and you know, 1238 00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:15,600 Speaker 1: it made my way in there. And like I say, 1239 00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:18,080 Speaker 1: it was able to carve out eight years. So being 1240 00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:21,120 Speaker 1: able to impart that type of knowledge seeing every you know, 1241 00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:22,920 Speaker 1: I was in Houston four years and then after that, 1242 00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:24,880 Speaker 1: I think I played for every team in the NFL. 1243 00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:28,400 Speaker 1: You know, it was like like what just happened? You know, 1244 00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:31,200 Speaker 1: me Like I was a I was a three year starter, 1245 00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,040 Speaker 1: and now I'm I played on three different teams in 1246 00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:35,400 Speaker 1: my fifth year, you know what I mean. So it 1247 00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:39,000 Speaker 1: just seeing that that the roller coaster of emotions and 1248 00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:42,000 Speaker 1: dealing with everyday life in the NFL. That's something you know. 1249 00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:44,840 Speaker 1: I'm I feel like I can impart on the next generation. 1250 00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:47,560 Speaker 1: So it's gonna be it's gonna be vital. It did 1251 00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:49,880 Speaker 1: it feel like everything and it just went that quickly 1252 00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:51,360 Speaker 1: when you were in the league, or did it seems 1253 00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:54,840 Speaker 1: slower because you saying that it feels like it was 1254 00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:58,040 Speaker 1: so quick, I mean just so fast. Yeah, No, it's 1255 00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:01,000 Speaker 1: a blur, man, It's everything happened so fast. You gotta 1256 01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:04,320 Speaker 1: think because everything is so fast moving up there. Every 1257 01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:06,720 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's not that there's never a dull moment, 1258 01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:09,360 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And everything is calculated. Um 1259 01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:12,240 Speaker 1: the accountability factor that you have to to haven't you 1260 01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:15,000 Speaker 1: know in that kind of profession, you know, every day 1261 01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:17,520 Speaker 1: is a journey. Tell people you know, essentially every day 1262 01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:19,560 Speaker 1: you wake up and your feet hit the ground, you 1263 01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:22,120 Speaker 1: have to essentially be perfect where you go, what you say, 1264 01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:23,880 Speaker 1: how you dress, what you know what I mean, because 1265 01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:28,040 Speaker 1: you're know representing yourself, you're representing your team and your family, 1266 01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:29,720 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So there's there's so many 1267 01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:32,920 Speaker 1: different factors about what you have to do on a 1268 01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:36,160 Speaker 1: daily basis to be successful at that level, so um 1269 01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:37,600 Speaker 1: and a lot of not a lot of guys have 1270 01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:42,240 Speaker 1: that information going in, but it goes by fast though. Okay, 1271 01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,440 Speaker 1: we got quite a bit more about your football journey 1272 01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:47,080 Speaker 1: to discuss, but first we got to get into this. Okay, 1273 01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:50,040 Speaker 1: you've mentioned obviously you played in the league for eight years. 1274 01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:53,200 Speaker 1: You're a real estate agent as well, and now you're transitioning. 1275 01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:55,160 Speaker 1: You're you're going to probably be a player agent in 1276 01:00:55,160 --> 01:01:00,560 Speaker 1: a little bit. But when I'm doing research you type 1277 01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:04,160 Speaker 1: Zach dials into the old Google engine, one of the 1278 01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:08,280 Speaker 1: first things that comes up is real estate agent and 1279 01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:13,439 Speaker 1: ladies man. And you've been on a reality TV show. 1280 01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:16,240 Speaker 1: Now that's that's a first for this program. Tell us 1281 01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:19,240 Speaker 1: about that experience, because I know that must have been 1282 01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:22,280 Speaker 1: something interesting for you, Right. What was the deal man? 1283 01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:25,760 Speaker 1: It was wild. I always enjoyed doing new things, right, 1284 01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:28,440 Speaker 1: and that opportunity kind of fell into my lab. When 1285 01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:30,520 Speaker 1: I started doing real estate, I worked for this company, 1286 01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:33,880 Speaker 1: transitioned over to his company called Agents of LA And 1287 01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:35,880 Speaker 1: when I got there, my broker, you know, he came 1288 01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:37,480 Speaker 1: to me. He was really good friends with a lot 1289 01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:40,000 Speaker 1: of you know TV personality, with h one like Ray 1290 01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:44,040 Speaker 1: j Our offices were actually in Rayj's dad's studio. Oh me. 1291 01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:45,880 Speaker 1: So he was really good friends with him. And one 1292 01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:47,080 Speaker 1: day he came to me. He was like, hey, I 1293 01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:49,600 Speaker 1: have this idea for the television show. You know, with 1294 01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:52,120 Speaker 1: your background, your eight year nfl V. You're good looking, 1295 01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:53,760 Speaker 1: just that. And third he's like, what do you think? 1296 01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:56,120 Speaker 1: And you know, all all right, cool, Well let's see 1297 01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:57,560 Speaker 1: what happens in the next thing. You know, it just 1298 01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:00,200 Speaker 1: started growing legs and now VH one and that we 1299 01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:02,840 Speaker 1: were casting people and I'm like, yo, this is real, 1300 01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:07,320 Speaker 1: like this is happening, like okay. And and so the 1301 01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:10,680 Speaker 1: process of just just being on TV, being on you know, 1302 01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:13,040 Speaker 1: that network, and it was it was it was allow 1303 01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:14,840 Speaker 1: to learn, you know what I mean. You know that's true. 1304 01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:17,440 Speaker 1: It was for me it was kind of more natural, 1305 01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:19,320 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because I'm not I wasn't 1306 01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:21,600 Speaker 1: quite as nervous having a camera in front of my 1307 01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:23,400 Speaker 1: face because that was pretty natural to me, you know 1308 01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:26,720 Speaker 1: what I mean. So, but it's just learning, like the 1309 01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:31,600 Speaker 1: nuances of how they you know, storylines, developing things like that. 1310 01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:34,040 Speaker 1: But it was, you know what I mean, it was, 1311 01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:36,800 Speaker 1: it was it was a learning process to say the least. 1312 01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:38,680 Speaker 1: So I enjoyed it though, for what it was. We 1313 01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:41,920 Speaker 1: did two seasons and uh and yeah and and you 1314 01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:45,960 Speaker 1: know it's yeah, VH one love and listings, listings. Now, 1315 01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:49,200 Speaker 1: is that it for you? Reality TV wise, entertainment wise, 1316 01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:50,880 Speaker 1: or might you still kind of dabble in that down 1317 01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:53,720 Speaker 1: line or even do more? You know, with my new job, 1318 01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:55,760 Speaker 1: it's kind of more it's it's it's not more so 1319 01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:57,760 Speaker 1: about me any longer, you know what I mean. That 1320 01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:00,880 Speaker 1: it was, you know, being a realtor and you know, 1321 01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:03,440 Speaker 1: trying to you know, market yourself. You know, the more 1322 01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:05,080 Speaker 1: people that know what you do, the better, you know, 1323 01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:07,640 Speaker 1: you see the million dollars these things and things like that. 1324 01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:09,640 Speaker 1: How I was able to cata pull you know, the 1325 01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:12,080 Speaker 1: careers of those guys on that TV show, and you know, 1326 01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:14,120 Speaker 1: so with ours, you know, with our ski trying to 1327 01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:16,880 Speaker 1: do the same thing just really didn't. It was it 1328 01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:18,640 Speaker 1: was awful to say the least. But I mean it 1329 01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:20,840 Speaker 1: was a great experience. But going forward, you know, with 1330 01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:23,640 Speaker 1: the new profession, I'm just I'm I'm I'm I'm good 1331 01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:25,840 Speaker 1: with that. You know, it was a great experience. You know, 1332 01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:27,880 Speaker 1: I was able to I'm able to now bring that 1333 01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:30,560 Speaker 1: into my new profession as well, and guys want to 1334 01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:33,800 Speaker 1: get into entertainment television movies about Oh I did that too, 1335 01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:37,440 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I own I own a 1336 01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:40,040 Speaker 1: hat company. You know, it was that being on TV. 1337 01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:42,520 Speaker 1: So it's just like the transition has been has been. 1338 01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:45,919 Speaker 1: I'm blessed. Man, I can't even complain. That's awesome, it's 1339 01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:48,600 Speaker 1: really cool. All right, let's rewind. Let's go all the 1340 01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:52,880 Speaker 1: way back. Okay, grew up in California. You do two 1341 01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:56,320 Speaker 1: years in junior college, which that's I mean, that's an 1342 01:03:56,320 --> 01:04:00,080 Speaker 1: accomplished accomplishment in itself to go from junior college to 1343 01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:03,480 Speaker 1: an NCAA program. For Jonathan Joseph did the same thing, 1344 01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:05,680 Speaker 1: and he talked about if I if you can go 1345 01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:07,800 Speaker 1: through and make it out of a junior college and 1346 01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:12,040 Speaker 1: make it into a college program, you already are a survivor, 1347 01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:14,560 Speaker 1: you are a fighter, you are you've accomplished something. What 1348 01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:15,800 Speaker 1: do you what do you have to say when you 1349 01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:18,720 Speaker 1: look back at those DUCO days? You know what, it's crazy. 1350 01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:20,400 Speaker 1: One day we were sitting in there in the locker 1351 01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:23,320 Speaker 1: room at DUCO and our coach, coach, coach Tony Kaviglia, 1352 01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:24,640 Speaker 1: came in there. He was like you know, this is 1353 01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:27,040 Speaker 1: gonna be the most fun you guys ever had playing football, 1354 01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:28,720 Speaker 1: you know what. You know, I'm eighteen. You're looking at 1355 01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:32,600 Speaker 1: him like we're in Duco, sitting in a room. This 1356 01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:34,360 Speaker 1: is our weight room, and it's the size of the 1357 01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:35,880 Speaker 1: room I grew up in and my you know what 1358 01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:37,800 Speaker 1: I mean. I'm like, and you're you're sitting there and 1359 01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:39,720 Speaker 1: you don't really see the vision. You know, you're not 1360 01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:42,919 Speaker 1: on scholarship. You're driving buses everywhere. But at the same time, 1361 01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:45,360 Speaker 1: everybody at that level is hungry, trying to get somewhere 1362 01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:47,880 Speaker 1: else and talented, you know what I mean. In talented, 1363 01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:50,080 Speaker 1: we had, you know, we had to bounce back from Oklahoma, 1364 01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:53,240 Speaker 1: you know, Oregon State off my whole entire offensive linement 1365 01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:55,640 Speaker 1: with six six, three hundred pound Hawaiians, you know what 1366 01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:59,080 Speaker 1: I mean, Like all went to Oregon and Utah. So 1367 01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:02,680 Speaker 1: I was I was surrounded by, you know, a plethora 1368 01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:04,440 Speaker 1: of talent, you know what I mean. And the crazy 1369 01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:07,440 Speaker 1: thing about that whole situation is, I was I committed 1370 01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:09,240 Speaker 1: the Utah bro like I was supposed to go to 1371 01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:11,840 Speaker 1: Utah Urban Meyer, you know what I mean. I was 1372 01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:13,600 Speaker 1: I was gonna go there, and then he got that 1373 01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:17,080 Speaker 1: job in Florida, and literally, when I tell you, the 1374 01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:20,000 Speaker 1: new staff the Utah came in, they pulled my scholarship 1375 01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:24,840 Speaker 1: the day before signing day. Like I'm first team on everything, juco. 1376 01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:27,440 Speaker 1: The new staff comes in, They're like, oh, we want 1377 01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:30,200 Speaker 1: our own and literally pulled my scholarship the day before 1378 01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:33,240 Speaker 1: signing day. So I sat in Fresno for two months, 1379 01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:36,360 Speaker 1: not knowing what I was gonna do. I was working 1380 01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:39,400 Speaker 1: at a place called John's Incredible Pizza, making balloon animals 1381 01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:43,960 Speaker 1: for kids' birthday parties. And you know what I mean, Yeah, man, 1382 01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:45,960 Speaker 1: it was it was. You know, my brother went to 1383 01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,680 Speaker 1: Fresno State at the time, and so I lived with him, 1384 01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:52,120 Speaker 1: you know, and watching him go to spring football every day. 1385 01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:54,720 Speaker 1: And I'm just sitting at the house trying to figure 1386 01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:57,400 Speaker 1: out what just happened. And then you know, blessing, you know, 1387 01:05:57,400 --> 01:05:59,760 Speaker 1: a long behold Kansas State came and offered a scholarship 1388 01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:02,160 Speaker 1: and and and the rest is history. So you know, 1389 01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:06,480 Speaker 1: like I said, it's a journey, bro, Like the journey crazy. 1390 01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:10,160 Speaker 1: What did your time in Manhattan, Kansas help you with 1391 01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:12,480 Speaker 1: and and open your eyes to while you were there? 1392 01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:16,040 Speaker 1: What was that like? Just making it easier to be 1393 01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:17,560 Speaker 1: away from home. You Like I said, you know, I'm 1394 01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:21,000 Speaker 1: from California, went to school school in Kansas, which was 1395 01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:23,000 Speaker 1: a culture shock for me. You know, where I'm from, Incali, 1396 01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:25,120 Speaker 1: it doesn't get cold, it doesn't snow, you know what 1397 01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:28,160 Speaker 1: I mean. And now I'm in Manhattan, Kansas, and all 1398 01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:30,400 Speaker 1: I brought with me with hoodies, so I'm I'm you 1399 01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:32,520 Speaker 1: know what I mean, and I'm out there freezing like 1400 01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:34,720 Speaker 1: like okay. It is learning how to drive in the 1401 01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:39,120 Speaker 1: snow and just acclimating yourself to different you know, circumstances 1402 01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:41,080 Speaker 1: and things like that. It's a rural it's a rural 1403 01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:43,000 Speaker 1: or I mean it's a town, but it's it's surrounded 1404 01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:46,040 Speaker 1: by farmland and farmers. Right, yeah, there's nothing there, Like 1405 01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:49,240 Speaker 1: you're ten miles off the nearest freeway as well, Like 1406 01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:52,520 Speaker 1: you get off and it's Bill Snyder Family Freeway or whatever, 1407 01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:56,080 Speaker 1: and you're like wenting miles off the main road. So 1408 01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:58,560 Speaker 1: and then you know, I went through two coaching staffs. 1409 01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:00,320 Speaker 1: You know, I had Bill Snyder in my junior year. 1410 01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:03,280 Speaker 1: There Ron Prince my senior year. So it was like 1411 01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:06,600 Speaker 1: the tell of two different worlds being out there in 1412 01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:09,520 Speaker 1: my time, it was it was wild. It was wild. Okay, 1413 01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:12,880 Speaker 1: tell me about April two thousand and seven draft is 1414 01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:15,600 Speaker 1: coming up. What did you think, I mean, did you say, hey, 1415 01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:17,480 Speaker 1: I'm definitely gonna get pick. Was it kind of like 1416 01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:19,680 Speaker 1: I hope I get picked? Were you surprised? What was 1417 01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:22,200 Speaker 1: that like for you? Man, bro, I had no idea, 1418 01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:25,480 Speaker 1: Like when I didn't even know I was on like 1419 01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:28,000 Speaker 1: draft radars, because you know, my junior year at k State, 1420 01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:30,400 Speaker 1: I didn't start. I played a lot, but I didn't 1421 01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:34,040 Speaker 1: start right. So I was like this unknown guy going 1422 01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:36,320 Speaker 1: into my senior year. Senior year, I started every game, 1423 01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:38,280 Speaker 1: I do well, and you know made year through my 1424 01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:40,280 Speaker 1: senior year. That's when you know, you know, starting picking 1425 01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:42,479 Speaker 1: up those that buzz or whatever. And it was like, oh, well, 1426 01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:46,080 Speaker 1: you know, okay, interesting. You know, agents are reaching out 1427 01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:48,960 Speaker 1: and like, okay, interesting. You know, I just took it 1428 01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:51,840 Speaker 1: day by day and when the draft came, like I 1429 01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:55,480 Speaker 1: I honestly thought I was gonna go to Seattle just 1430 01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:57,560 Speaker 1: because you had talked with them or what. Yeah. I 1431 01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:00,240 Speaker 1: took visits there. I spoke with them a few times times. 1432 01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:02,040 Speaker 1: But then you know, the sixth round came and they 1433 01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:04,680 Speaker 1: picked two linebackers back to back. They picked Cory Hall 1434 01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:07,760 Speaker 1: and Desmond Um No, actually Green but this was Green Bay, 1435 01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:10,120 Speaker 1: Green Bay. I was on the phone, Green Bay. It 1436 01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:11,760 Speaker 1: was like six round and we're gonna pick that of 1437 01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:13,960 Speaker 1: the dime. I'm like, all right, cool, sixth round comes. 1438 01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:17,000 Speaker 1: They took Cory Hall and Desmond Bishop back to back man. 1439 01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:21,080 Speaker 1: I oh okay. They literally had back to pack fix 1440 01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:23,479 Speaker 1: in that round and took Cory Hall and Deste two linebackers. 1441 01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:25,880 Speaker 1: I was like, all right, well, and so the seventh 1442 01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:28,599 Speaker 1: round comes, I had I had never spoke to Houston. 1443 01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:31,599 Speaker 1: I didn't need at that time. Honestly, I was like Houston, Texans. 1444 01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:33,680 Speaker 1: You know, there was they were new, they were like 1445 01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:36,040 Speaker 1: five years in at that time. You know. I was, 1446 01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:38,360 Speaker 1: I'm at my friend's house. I'm you know, the seventh 1447 01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:40,160 Speaker 1: round is there. I'm kind of discouraged now at this 1448 01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:42,439 Speaker 1: point because I sat there and watched the entire day 1449 01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:44,560 Speaker 1: like fout four and a half hours because it was 1450 01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:47,000 Speaker 1: back when it was Saturday and Sunday, right, yeah, yeah, 1451 01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:49,479 Speaker 1: it was just two days on the draft. Yeah. And 1452 01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:53,000 Speaker 1: then like my phone rings, it's an eighty three to 1453 01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:55,680 Speaker 1: two numbers, so I answer it and it's it's it's 1454 01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:57,800 Speaker 1: one of the Secretaries and I Hayes acts dad of 1455 01:08:57,840 --> 01:08:59,519 Speaker 1: the die and then and then all of a sudden, 1456 01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:01,280 Speaker 1: the same time, my agent was calling me, so I 1457 01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:03,880 Speaker 1: hung up. I hung up, and I clicked over to 1458 01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:05,840 Speaker 1: my agents. So I'm talking to my agent at the 1459 01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:08,160 Speaker 1: same time, my best friend is tapping me on my shoulder. 1460 01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:10,640 Speaker 1: I'm like and I'm like, well, he's like, look at 1461 01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:11,960 Speaker 1: the TV. I look at it at the TV and 1462 01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:15,000 Speaker 1: I see my name go across like Zachdles Round seven 1463 01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:18,759 Speaker 1: picked two at Houston Texans, and my agents like congrats. 1464 01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:20,479 Speaker 1: But I was like, wait, wait, wait, wait wait. I 1465 01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:22,720 Speaker 1: was like, did I just get dressed? I'm like, yo, 1466 01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:24,640 Speaker 1: I just hung up on them, you know what I mean. 1467 01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:27,000 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm panticing. I was like, oh, they're 1468 01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:29,200 Speaker 1: still gonna want me, Like, what's gonna happen? I just 1469 01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:30,479 Speaker 1: hung up on them, you know what I mean. It 1470 01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:32,360 Speaker 1: was it was so much going on at that time, 1471 01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:35,280 Speaker 1: but uh, but yeah, it was. It was a blessing, man, 1472 01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:37,360 Speaker 1: it was a blessing them. Do you remember the conversation 1473 01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:38,840 Speaker 1: when you did get back on the phone with the 1474 01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:42,640 Speaker 1: Texans Not really, not not too really. I think it 1475 01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:45,200 Speaker 1: maybe was Rick Smith that was on the phone. Head 1476 01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:47,960 Speaker 1: was just swirling. Basically, Yeah, I'm not sure if I 1477 01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:51,800 Speaker 1: talked to Cool. But the dopest thing about that, though, 1478 01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:54,800 Speaker 1: was like a week later, I'm back in Manhattan, you know, 1479 01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:56,559 Speaker 1: the draft is done, and that's when they had just 1480 01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:59,160 Speaker 1: signed mat Shop. And so I'm in Kansas. You know, 1481 01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:00,880 Speaker 1: I'm sitting on the bat I'm on the balcony of 1482 01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:03,120 Speaker 1: my apartment in Kansas, and I got some of my 1483 01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:04,720 Speaker 1: teammates in there, and all of a sudden, my phone 1484 01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:07,800 Speaker 1: ring and its matsh Shop, mash Shop. I'm calling me, 1485 01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:09,320 Speaker 1: you know, He's like, Hey, this is matsh Shop. I 1486 01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:11,880 Speaker 1: just wanted to take congratulations man looking forward to I'm 1487 01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:14,240 Speaker 1: I'm in my apartment looking at my boys. I'm like, 1488 01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:19,519 Speaker 1: it's like, I don't even know how he knows me. 1489 01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:21,920 Speaker 1: So I thought that was dope, man like Matt. Matt 1490 01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:23,639 Speaker 1: picked up the phone and gave me a call after 1491 01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:26,360 Speaker 1: the draft, so that I thought that was cool. Yeah, 1492 01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:29,439 Speaker 1: it didn't end well here for him, but I think 1493 01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:31,200 Speaker 1: it's important that it's good that you brought that up 1494 01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:33,479 Speaker 1: because obviously don't know as much as you guys because 1495 01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:35,200 Speaker 1: you all are in the locker room. But I noticed 1496 01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:38,719 Speaker 1: and I remember during the lockout, he was very upfront 1497 01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:42,000 Speaker 1: about organizing and keeping guys together and keeping keeping guys 1498 01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:44,000 Speaker 1: working out. I know, he always had parties and he 1499 01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:46,800 Speaker 1: hosted those at his house. He was a pretty good 1500 01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:49,519 Speaker 1: leader in the locker room. And that's that says a lot. 1501 01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:53,160 Speaker 1: He calls a seventh round rookie on the defensive side 1502 01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:54,960 Speaker 1: of the ball to welcome him there, and he just 1503 01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:58,639 Speaker 1: got into the town himself, right, yeah, oh chose my guy. Man, 1504 01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:02,160 Speaker 1: that's a Matt Like you said, he he always had 1505 01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:04,479 Speaker 1: the functions at his house. He was really good about, 1506 01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:07,200 Speaker 1: you know, bringing guys over it and just fellowshipping, you 1507 01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:09,680 Speaker 1: know what I mean. We'd be on his yard having 1508 01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:12,560 Speaker 1: dunk contests and all type of things. Now having barbecue. 1509 01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:14,639 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, Matt Bro Like I don't like Matt 1510 01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:18,519 Speaker 1: solid Bro Like, yeah, I'm I'm not gonna say and 1511 01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:21,760 Speaker 1: argue with eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve seasons he had. 1512 01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:24,240 Speaker 1: I mean, he was really really good in those years. 1513 01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:26,200 Speaker 1: She's like, I mean I got to I witnessed, I 1514 01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:28,960 Speaker 1: got to witness some good football from Matt. So I'm 1515 01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:31,120 Speaker 1: you know, he took us, especially a two thousand and 1516 01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:32,680 Speaker 1: nine years that was fun, you know what I mean? 1517 01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:34,679 Speaker 1: That was probably one of my favorite years playing football 1518 01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:36,479 Speaker 1: for real. I want to get into that in the 1519 01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:38,840 Speaker 1: second book. What was it like when you finally do 1520 01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:41,200 Speaker 1: get to Houston for the first time for rookie Mini Camp. 1521 01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:43,160 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a blur, you know, because again you're 1522 01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:46,280 Speaker 1: you're You're trying to just figure it out, you know 1523 01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:48,840 Speaker 1: what I mean. I'm coming from you know, I'm a 1524 01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:51,599 Speaker 1: starter in college and now I'm a seventh round pick. 1525 01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:54,360 Speaker 1: So now my you know I'm not and I'm backing 1526 01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:57,320 Speaker 1: up Demiko Ryan's I'm not gonna for the Rookie of 1527 01:11:57,360 --> 01:12:00,040 Speaker 1: the Year, Okay, So I'm not gonna start, got it? 1528 01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:03,439 Speaker 1: So how do I make this team? Joe Marciano, what's up? Baby? 1529 01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:08,960 Speaker 1: Like man? You know, like like Joe, I'm gonna be 1530 01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:11,560 Speaker 1: in your hip pocket all day every day, you know 1531 01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:14,320 Speaker 1: what I mean. If you need a red, I got it. Yeah, here, 1532 01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:16,720 Speaker 1: I got you. And that's kind of how you know 1533 01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:18,720 Speaker 1: I made my my mark my rookie year, you know 1534 01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:21,639 Speaker 1: as well as you know whenever they threw me in, 1535 01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:24,080 Speaker 1: you know, defensively knowing just making sure I knew what 1536 01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:25,519 Speaker 1: I had to do, but I knew my Mark was 1537 01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:27,519 Speaker 1: gonna be making it on special team because I'm not 1538 01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:30,599 Speaker 1: dethroning a Demika Ryan's or it wouldn't even you know claim, 1539 01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:32,560 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So yeah, so it was 1540 01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:34,920 Speaker 1: just a lot of that, and then you know, just 1541 01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:38,479 Speaker 1: learning learning, like yo, your feelings. Really I remember on 1542 01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:43,519 Speaker 1: my birthday, on my birthday, broth my on my twenty 1543 01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:47,000 Speaker 1: on my twenty second birthday, my rookie year, what's your birthday? 1544 01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:49,559 Speaker 1: What is your birthday? June eleventh, June eleven, Okay, so 1545 01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:52,840 Speaker 1: it's ot Oh, yeah, this is the my this is 1546 01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:55,960 Speaker 1: the very last day of OTA's right, And so mind 1547 01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:59,640 Speaker 1: you a mobe is his birthday is June tenth, and 1548 01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:02,040 Speaker 1: he would is the first round pick that same draft 1549 01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:04,200 Speaker 1: as you. Yeah, I had no idea how Mobi was. 1550 01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:07,880 Speaker 1: Birthday was the day before mine. So we're literally the 1551 01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:10,160 Speaker 1: last day OTAs and you know, rookie year, and you know, 1552 01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:13,439 Speaker 1: I'd been doing some decent things, right, so Cool calls 1553 01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:16,439 Speaker 1: us up and he's like, hey, you know, he's going 1554 01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:18,280 Speaker 1: through this his his talk and he's like, you know, 1555 01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:20,759 Speaker 1: we have this young guy. You know, he's doing really 1556 01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:23,920 Speaker 1: good data then and it's just you know, it's his birthday. 1557 01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:26,880 Speaker 1: This the third So I'm thinking he's talking about me, right, 1558 01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:28,760 Speaker 1: and he was like, you know, I'm gonna let him 1559 01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:30,720 Speaker 1: break it down. So he said that I stand up, 1560 01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:34,000 Speaker 1: Like I stood up, and when I tell you cool, 1561 01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:36,240 Speaker 1: look me dead into my soul. It was like, Zach, 1562 01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:41,559 Speaker 1: what are you doing? I'm like, I'm like, what do 1563 01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:44,080 Speaker 1: you like? What do you mean? Like? Today's my birthday? 1564 01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:45,920 Speaker 1: Like today it's my birth He was like, oh, I 1565 01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:47,519 Speaker 1: didn't even know that I was talking about the movie. 1566 01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:48,920 Speaker 1: But both of you guys didn't break it down. I 1567 01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:54,120 Speaker 1: was like, oh no, oh no, like not in front 1568 01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:58,439 Speaker 1: of everybody, you know, I mean, like, damn, like you 1569 01:13:58,439 --> 01:13:59,920 Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's just like all right, cool, 1570 01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:02,240 Speaker 1: you don't even you don't even know me. That's what's up. 1571 01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:05,840 Speaker 1: So it was just those moments where you're realizing where 1572 01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:09,760 Speaker 1: you are in the totem pole. You know, okay, got 1573 01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:12,600 Speaker 1: it cool? You know? He just keep going, you just 1574 01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:14,519 Speaker 1: keep going. Man, It's like all right, you know that's 1575 01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:16,559 Speaker 1: that was That was an interesting day for me, but 1576 01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:19,240 Speaker 1: on my actual birthday. But you know, I mean, it's 1577 01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:21,240 Speaker 1: just those lessons of those those things that you learned 1578 01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:23,879 Speaker 1: about all right, there's there's there's levels to this. Yeah, 1579 01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:26,639 Speaker 1: I get it. Okay, Moby's the first round, seventh round, 1580 01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:28,559 Speaker 1: It's all right, there's levels to this. I get it. 1581 01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:30,599 Speaker 1: Whatever it is, what it is, and you just keep going. Man, 1582 01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:35,160 Speaker 1: so Zach, this is remarkable because I did this interview 1583 01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:37,360 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks back with another seventh rounder, the 1584 01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:39,960 Speaker 1: guy who was taking the year before you, in David 1585 01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:43,240 Speaker 1: Anderson in two thousand and six. So Gredder. He has 1586 01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:50,040 Speaker 1: almost an exact same story about his birthday, except I 1587 01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:52,960 Speaker 1: think it was Damiko Ryan's. Somebody else shared the birthday 1588 01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:55,400 Speaker 1: and he got he got up like twice and he 1589 01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:57,559 Speaker 1: was like the third guy, and nobody else realized it 1590 01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:00,400 Speaker 1: was his birthday. This is I'm gonna fin I didn't 1591 01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:02,640 Speaker 1: send it to you when we finished this up, and uh, 1592 01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:04,840 Speaker 1: I think you'll have a giggle at this. So just 1593 01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:07,680 Speaker 1: know you weren't alone, and you're not alone in that 1594 01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:13,080 Speaker 1: going through that birthday shenanigans here, that's tough. So you 1595 01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:16,200 Speaker 1: obviously you're doing well, like you talk about there in 1596 01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:19,479 Speaker 1: that first spring, and you obviously did something great in 1597 01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:22,160 Speaker 1: August and July, you know, a month or so later, 1598 01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:25,040 Speaker 1: and you make the team. Yeah, what was that like 1599 01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:28,519 Speaker 1: when you found out, because I can't imagine like you were, Hey, 1600 01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:30,280 Speaker 1: I know I'm making that. I mean, there had to 1601 01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:32,800 Speaker 1: be some quite a bit of doubt, I would imagine, right, 1602 01:15:33,479 --> 01:15:35,920 Speaker 1: you know. You know what the thing about it is, 1603 01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:39,320 Speaker 1: so like five days in the training camp, we're sitting 1604 01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:41,320 Speaker 1: there and you know this is, you know, right when 1605 01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:44,040 Speaker 1: we were a day into pads and things and again 1606 01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:46,559 Speaker 1: special teams, while I wanted to make sure that I 1607 01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:48,639 Speaker 1: was making my mark on special teams, and then whenever 1608 01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:50,559 Speaker 1: we had a special team's drill, I was in there 1609 01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:53,280 Speaker 1: and I'm you know, I was, I was holding my own. Yeah. 1610 01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:56,360 Speaker 1: So like five days in the training camp, we're sitting 1611 01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:58,880 Speaker 1: there in our stretch line and I'm doing my I'm 1612 01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:02,160 Speaker 1: doing my stretch and Rick comes up next to me, right, 1613 01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:05,720 Speaker 1: so I'm looking this way. Rick comes down. He comes 1614 01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:08,600 Speaker 1: up with his little notepad and and he leans, he 1615 01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:12,320 Speaker 1: bends down, and he's he's looking at his notepad still Smith, 1616 01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:15,719 Speaker 1: So he's he's talking at me, but he's not looking 1617 01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:17,639 Speaker 1: at me, right, So he kneels next to me. He's 1618 01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:19,920 Speaker 1: just looking at his note. Put he mentioned, He's like, 1619 01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:22,439 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm just wondering when you're gonna fade 1620 01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:26,120 Speaker 1: and gets up and walks off. Right, I'm like what, 1621 01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:29,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, okay, now I know you see me. 1622 01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:32,600 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm like, oh, okay, Like 1623 01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:34,960 Speaker 1: because you know, he's saying that to try to test you, 1624 01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:36,680 Speaker 1: to try to figure out where your head's at. Now 1625 01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:38,439 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put you on notice that we see you 1626 01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:40,160 Speaker 1: to see what happens. Where do you where do you 1627 01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:43,160 Speaker 1: take this knowledge? Do you fold? Or But when he 1628 01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:45,559 Speaker 1: says that to me, I'm like, oh, you just messed up, 1629 01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:48,280 Speaker 1: because now I know you see me. Now, I know 1630 01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:50,040 Speaker 1: when you guys are in meetings that now you're like, oh, 1631 01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:56,080 Speaker 1: who's fifty four? Like this? Are they knew who everyone is? Yeah? 1632 01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:57,880 Speaker 1: You know. I was like, okay, now, so now you 1633 01:16:57,920 --> 01:16:59,720 Speaker 1: really see me though, because now you're like, oh, I'm 1634 01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:02,719 Speaker 1: just when you're gonna fade and walked off, I'm like, okay, 1635 01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:05,200 Speaker 1: so did you shine even more after that? I mean, 1636 01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:07,120 Speaker 1: you know what's crazy? That day I probably had the 1637 01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:09,719 Speaker 1: worst practice of my luck. No, I had the worst 1638 01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:12,720 Speaker 1: moments of the training camp that that day. We did 1639 01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:14,719 Speaker 1: a drill. I don't know if you remember Cedric killings, 1640 01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:18,400 Speaker 1: remember Cedric killings. He was before. Yeah, I get there, No. Nine, 1641 01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:20,759 Speaker 1: but I remember the name for sure. Okay, So Cedric, 1642 01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:24,640 Speaker 1: you know six three Mississippi d tackle. You know, this 1643 01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:27,120 Speaker 1: is when you know Special Teams was real. You can 1644 01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:29,519 Speaker 1: like murder people on special teams. Well we did. We 1645 01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:31,320 Speaker 1: did a drill and you know, I'm a rookie and 1646 01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:33,479 Speaker 1: I'm going down there. Cedric's like six years. He knows 1647 01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:36,680 Speaker 1: the tempo and he goes down there and he I mean, 1648 01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:38,560 Speaker 1: my head hit the ground first type, you know what 1649 01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:41,040 Speaker 1: I mean, Like, dude, Oh okay, I go back to 1650 01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:43,800 Speaker 1: the line. I come back, same thing happens again. And 1651 01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:45,760 Speaker 1: now people are watching though, you know what I mean. 1652 01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:47,680 Speaker 1: Now now the guys are watching because now there's a 1653 01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:49,200 Speaker 1: little buzz about who's this, you know what I mean? 1654 01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:52,120 Speaker 1: And I just got laid out twice back to back, 1655 01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:54,840 Speaker 1: like oh no. And then the worst part about was 1656 01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:57,080 Speaker 1: the weather got bad and so we had to end 1657 01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:58,720 Speaker 1: up going into the bubble and We're on the far 1658 01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:00,719 Speaker 1: side of the practice field and I'm like, the last 1659 01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:04,679 Speaker 1: one is raining. Everybody's running into the fact the bubble 1660 01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:08,719 Speaker 1: and I'm just sitting there by myself, walking in by myself. Brother, 1661 01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:11,840 Speaker 1: it was just like damn, but then we go in 1662 01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:13,560 Speaker 1: there and we did a nine on seven drill and 1663 01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:15,920 Speaker 1: I went out there and I laid somebody out on 1664 01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:18,280 Speaker 1: a run play and it kind of rebooted, you know 1665 01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:19,840 Speaker 1: what I mean. I was like, Oh, yeah, if he 1666 01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:22,360 Speaker 1: can go through what he just went through outside and 1667 01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:24,400 Speaker 1: then come in here and do this, we might have 1668 01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:26,760 Speaker 1: something with this kid, because he shouldn't be able to 1669 01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:29,000 Speaker 1: do this, you know. So making the team. How'd you 1670 01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:31,040 Speaker 1: find out the news? Though? Like, did somebody tell you? 1671 01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:32,920 Speaker 1: Did you read about it the internet? How to go? 1672 01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:35,720 Speaker 1: You know? They supposed to call you. They were like, 1673 01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:37,160 Speaker 1: we're gonna give you a call. If you don't get 1674 01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:39,880 Speaker 1: a call before one thirty, then you're solid. So cut 1675 01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:43,360 Speaker 1: day comes my brother Punk. He called me at eleven o'clock. 1676 01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:45,640 Speaker 1: I'm like my phone ring and it's like I was like, 1677 01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:48,120 Speaker 1: oh man, and it's him. So I gave him a 1678 01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:50,639 Speaker 1: lot of verbal lashing. But after one thirty, my phone 1679 01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:53,120 Speaker 1: didn't ring. Right. I go into the locker room the 1680 01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:55,800 Speaker 1: next day, still kind of skeptical, and I'm in there. 1681 01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:58,080 Speaker 1: I'm sitting in my locker and I'm the first one there. 1682 01:18:58,360 --> 01:19:00,000 Speaker 1: And then I'm sitting there and all of a sudden, 1683 01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:03,120 Speaker 1: Chester comes walking in Chester Pitts and he goes and 1684 01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:04,760 Speaker 1: sits at his locker and he just kind of looks 1685 01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:11,000 Speaker 1: down at me and he's like, congratulations, Rooke, thank you. 1686 01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:14,280 Speaker 1: You know, like I don't like, I'm just kind of 1687 01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:16,720 Speaker 1: here right now. I don't know really what's going on. 1688 01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:18,840 Speaker 1: I didn't get a call, so I showed up today, 1689 01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:20,640 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And but Chester was like, yo, 1690 01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:23,680 Speaker 1: congratulations rook I'm like, I don't really even know what 1691 01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:25,640 Speaker 1: that means right now, Chester, but I'm gonna take that 1692 01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:27,240 Speaker 1: and we're gonna be So the rest of that day, 1693 01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:29,439 Speaker 1: when I was walking on eggshells, you know, I'm we're 1694 01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:31,640 Speaker 1: going into team meetings, I'm kind of just like tiptoeing 1695 01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:33,559 Speaker 1: in there. It's like do I I'm good so I 1696 01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:38,320 Speaker 1: can come in. It was, it was. It was surreal, man. 1697 01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:42,080 Speaker 1: I was I made team, like okay, cool, like let's go. 1698 01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:44,360 Speaker 1: But then I wasn't active like three weeks, so it was. 1699 01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:46,320 Speaker 1: It was. It was a lot going on. Man. It's 1700 01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:49,519 Speaker 1: one of those things. Man, when rookies, especially Zach being 1701 01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:54,560 Speaker 1: a seventh rounder, I think that's such a real just reaction. 1702 01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:57,559 Speaker 1: I love him talking about that because I can only 1703 01:19:57,600 --> 01:19:59,599 Speaker 1: imagine what guys go through. Who we talk about the time, 1704 01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:01,720 Speaker 1: who makes fifty three man roster? I mean we're not 1705 01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:04,240 Speaker 1: living it, man, I mean we're not guy number forty 1706 01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:06,559 Speaker 1: nine or number fifty. That's like, God, am I gonna 1707 01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:09,760 Speaker 1: be here today? You know? Am I supposed to? Like? What? 1708 01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:12,000 Speaker 1: Am I supposed to do? That? It was great Zach 1709 01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:16,240 Speaker 1: captured that that moment of making the team back in 1710 01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:18,559 Speaker 1: two thousand and seven as a rookie. All right, we 1711 01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:21,000 Speaker 1: get back, Let's go around the NFL. A lot of 1712 01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:22,840 Speaker 1: things happening. We'll try to hit some of the big 1713 01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:25,640 Speaker 1: news stories that happen in the league. Next right here 1714 01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:29,439 Speaker 1: in Texans All Access. It's all Access, it's all Access. 1715 01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:33,040 Speaker 1: We got one final segment left here on a Wednesday 1716 01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:36,439 Speaker 1: edition of Texans All Access, and it's time for our 1717 01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:42,920 Speaker 1: Schlumberja Stats Challenge. Really easy for me to say, but 1718 01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:48,720 Speaker 1: go use Texas dot Com to take the Schlumberg Stats Challenge. 1719 01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:53,520 Speaker 1: And this stat is always one that Drew Doherty gives 1720 01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:56,800 Speaker 1: to all of us. He every single week he sends 1721 01:20:56,800 --> 01:20:59,800 Speaker 1: his email to em Yeah, he's an email to like 1722 01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:01,840 Speaker 1: or five of us. And it always has to do 1723 01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:07,599 Speaker 1: with turnovers. So this turnover shows you exactly, or this 1724 01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:12,559 Speaker 1: stat shows you exactly why the Cardinals are in the 1725 01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:17,160 Speaker 1: position that they're in. And that is the number eight 1726 01:21:18,120 --> 01:21:21,559 Speaker 1: a plus eight. How about the fact that Cardinals are 1727 01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:27,000 Speaker 1: plus eight in turnover margin. There's gonna be a two 1728 01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:29,439 Speaker 1: part because I just thought of something else too, a 1729 01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:32,280 Speaker 1: two parter. But they're plus eight in tnover margins. They 1730 01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:39,720 Speaker 1: have six interceptions, seven fumble recoveries. That's thirteen turnovers that 1731 01:21:39,800 --> 01:21:43,200 Speaker 1: are takeaway as they've created and they've only given up 1732 01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:48,440 Speaker 1: the ball. I believe it is five times four interceptions 1733 01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:53,400 Speaker 1: from Kyler Murray, one fumble lost. That's one part one 1734 01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:58,440 Speaker 1: of the Schlumberge stats challenge. Here's the other one. Twenty 1735 01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:01,360 Speaker 1: seven is the number, so buy the number stats challenge 1736 01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:06,679 Speaker 1: kind of a one. Twenty seven. Twenty seven in six 1737 01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:11,080 Speaker 1: games is the amount of points the Texans have scored 1738 01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:17,120 Speaker 1: in the second half of games six games in now. 1739 01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:20,479 Speaker 1: They've not scored a ton of points overall, but twenty seven. 1740 01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:23,080 Speaker 1: They scored ten of those in the opener against Jacksonville, 1741 01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:27,920 Speaker 1: but the Tyra Taylor got hurt at Cleveland after they 1742 01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:32,400 Speaker 1: scored fourteen. They had seven second half against the Browns, 1743 01:22:33,240 --> 01:22:38,479 Speaker 1: three against the Panthers, zero against the Bills, seven against 1744 01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:43,600 Speaker 1: the Patriots, zero against the Colts. They've had seventeen the 1745 01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:49,200 Speaker 1: last four games, Is that right? No? Sorry? Ten, the 1746 01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:51,559 Speaker 1: lost four games, seventeen, the lost five games since Davis 1747 01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:56,680 Speaker 1: Mills took over, seventeen. That's got a change if you 1748 01:22:56,720 --> 01:22:59,040 Speaker 1: want to base as a comparison, the Cardinals in the 1749 01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:05,320 Speaker 1: second halves of game six games eighty two points eighty two, 1750 01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:09,760 Speaker 1: so that is essentially thirteen and a half points in 1751 01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:14,360 Speaker 1: the second half, versus the Texans like four point three. 1752 01:23:15,439 --> 01:23:18,560 Speaker 1: That's gotta change. The Texas gotta be much much better 1753 01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:22,120 Speaker 1: in the second halves of games as they go forward. 1754 01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:23,760 Speaker 1: All right, let's go around the NFL real fast. Some 1755 01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:29,720 Speaker 1: news Tomorrow night's game Broncos v. Browns, Bridgewater v. Bako, 1756 01:23:29,960 --> 01:23:33,920 Speaker 1: not Baker. It's gonna be Case Keenum, Case Keenum gonna 1757 01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:37,680 Speaker 1: start in lieu of and injured Baker. Mayfield. Baker deal 1758 01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:42,240 Speaker 1: with that torn labram. Case Keenum will start in his 1759 01:23:42,439 --> 01:23:47,519 Speaker 1: place against Denver in a big, big game. The Seattle 1760 01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:50,640 Speaker 1: Seahawks have claimed former third round draft pick in the 1761 01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:55,599 Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts, Jacob Eason Easton. If you remember when Carson 1762 01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:57,960 Speaker 1: wentz was injured this soft season. Easton had to step 1763 01:23:58,040 --> 01:24:00,559 Speaker 1: up and take some snaps and do some things with 1764 01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:04,439 Speaker 1: the ones in preseason games. I was praying for this 1765 01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:07,760 Speaker 1: to happen, but Wentz made it back. But in that time, 1766 01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:10,280 Speaker 1: Sam Ellinger did some great things and you know Sam 1767 01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:13,080 Speaker 1: from the University of Texas well. He was activated off 1768 01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:16,640 Speaker 1: the injured list. Eson put on waivers. The Seattle Seahawks 1769 01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:22,760 Speaker 1: claimed the former Washington Husky slash Georgia Bulldog. Yeah, he's 1770 01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:26,840 Speaker 1: seen a lot in his days with Jacobieson. Eson now 1771 01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:30,840 Speaker 1: a Seattle Seahawk. And I mentioned this a little bit earlier. 1772 01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:37,840 Speaker 1: Witney Merciless going to the Packers and looks like Andre 1773 01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:41,720 Speaker 1: Roberts will end up going to the Los Angeles no 1774 01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:45,519 Speaker 1: longer than San Diego Los Angeles Chargers. So there's a 1775 01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:48,519 Speaker 1: little bit of news around the NFL. Boy, A lot 1776 01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:51,679 Speaker 1: happened on this show. But a big thanks to Mark Vanimir, 1777 01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:57,000 Speaker 1: to Nick Caserio, to DP City, to Danny Shurek, to Doherty, 1778 01:24:57,200 --> 01:25:00,920 Speaker 1: to Zach Dials, to Jimmy mud my Man and keeping 1779 01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:02,400 Speaker 1: me on a straight and narrow to all of you 1780 01:25:02,439 --> 01:25:04,880 Speaker 1: for listening. Love you very much. We'll see Tomorrowyboddy, as 1781 01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:05,839 Speaker 1: always go Texans