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Speaker 3: Welcome to Hour two of Kentucky Sports Radio, present it

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Speaker 3: by Stockton Mortgage. Now here's Matt Jones.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back coming Umber two Kentucky Sports Radio. If I

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Speaker 4: have nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven text

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Speaker 4: five four, A lot of texts coming in, a lot

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Speaker 4: of people with strong opinions. A lot of people want

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Speaker 4: Ryan to talk more about Diego, Pavis Monk. Those people

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Speaker 4: don't get those people don't get to get a pout

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Speaker 4: okay to see, It's just it never stops with him

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Speaker 4: and he can try and guys, Hey, Mario, Mario, here,

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Speaker 4: this is what you're supposed to be doing. I'm not

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Speaker 4: I'm not there. I'm not gonna be there tomorrow either.

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Speaker 4: By the way, Mario, you're gonna have to step up

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Speaker 4: on this. Uh tomorrow night. By the way, if Kentucky

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Speaker 4: wins tonight in volleyball tomorrow night, we'll have a watch

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Speaker 4: party at ks Bar. I'm coming, Drew's coming. Maybe we

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Speaker 4: for the SEC tournament finals tomorrow night, So put that on.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's Thanksgiving. It would be a good fun

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Speaker 4: Tuesday night. They gotta win to uh tonight. One person writes, Matt,

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Speaker 4: I love this conversation, but I have a question for Drew.

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Speaker 4: I think it's hypocritical to say he should be gone

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Speaker 4: but he wouldn't contribute. How does that make sense? All right,

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Speaker 4: I'm going to take it for Drew and then I'll

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Speaker 4: let him very easy. I would say, I think most

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Speaker 4: people who want him gone wouldn't pay for the buyout.

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Speaker 4: And I can understand it's Drew's like, it's not Drew

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Speaker 4: But I think most people would say that, which is

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean if this were like a private business,

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Speaker 5: that's just him asking for another bailout because he's messing

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Speaker 5: up the books, Like why do I have to help

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Speaker 6: You know?

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Speaker 5: I mean we we recently talked about how he might

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Speaker 5: that situation. And that's not just Drew Franklin, that's but

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Speaker 4: But then you can't get mad Shannon if the Boosters

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Speaker 7: But you're going to contribute my money, you know what?

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Speaker 4: the guy on TV in the blue Legion of Doom

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Speaker 4: I don't know who he is. No one's told me

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Speaker 5: I've seen people saying he was so nice and have

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Speaker 2: I hope it ends up being a player's dad, because

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Speaker 3: That I hope it's a regular person, because one would

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Speaker 4: Wearing if he was wearing thigh high boots, though, I

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Speaker 4: Have never seen that before? Either?

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Speaker 10: No, I'd never seen that before.

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Speaker 5: I bet this guy's got an unbelievable man cave at

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Speaker 5: the fact that his wedding ring is UK blue. He

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Speaker 4: I bet it's awesome. I bet he's got like a

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Speaker 4: to this show. Call in dude, Well, he's gonna have

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Speaker 4: But I bet you, Shannon, don't you think he's probably

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Speaker 4: listening to this show? Yeah, and either now are on podcast.

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Speaker 3: We could track this guy down someone's gonna know him,

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Speaker 4: I want to. I'd like to have this guy on

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Speaker 4: deserves I'd like to know more about him. Second, I

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Speaker 4: thought of you when I saw this, Shannon. Did you

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Speaker 4: see the nerd off at the Cal Stanford game?

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Speaker 7: No? No, I didn't what.

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Speaker 4: This might be Next to Diego Pavia's mom and this

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Speaker 4: guy my favorite video of the weekend. So Callen Stanford

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Speaker 4: play each other. It's the nerd Bowl. Okay, two nerdy

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Speaker 4: academic schools. They play for an axe. Okay, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's like you know, it's like their equivalent of the

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Speaker 4: Collen Stanford are just a few miles from each other.

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Speaker 4: When the game is over, though I've never seen this before,

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Speaker 4: they the losing team hands the acts to the winning team.

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Speaker 4: All right, But here's what's weird. They don't have the

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Speaker 7: Sounds dangerous, So they face each other.

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Speaker 4: You've got to look at this video online, all right, Drew,

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Speaker 4: maybe you can find it and tweet it out or something. Yea.

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Speaker 4: The two groups of nerds are eyeing each other and

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Speaker 4: one set of nerds hands the acts to the other

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Speaker 4: I'm sure they're wonderful people, but it is the cast

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Speaker 4: I think Stanford wins. They hand it over and Stanford

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Speaker 4: students start celebrating, and one of the football players for Stanford, Shannon,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're a player, the nerds are off limit.

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Speaker 3: The nerds fight each other way, you know. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 4: You've got to see the video. The cow student nerds

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Speaker 3: But look for the California team not to have one

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Speaker 4: No, no one was there to defend the nerds are

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Speaker 10: Well, I I can see why they're scared.

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Speaker 2: There's a six or five guy yelling actually, and you

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Speaker 2: just gave them an axe.

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Speaker 4: That's a fair point, I'm telling you.

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Speaker 3: If you watch were talking about an actual acts, I'm never.

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Speaker 4: Saying it's a mounted axe. I don't think it's like

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Speaker 3: Can't roll it off the thing that's mounted onto and

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Speaker 4: I love the idea that when the game is over,

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Speaker 7: I would refuse to give them the acts.

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Speaker 4: Can you imagine if at the end of the Kentucky

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Speaker 7: I'm seeing it right now.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, it's like a standoff between dorks.

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Speaker 4: It's a dork.

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Speaker 3: Stand that takes two dorks to hand over one ax.

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Speaker 3: They can't, like, they're not strong enough to just have

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Speaker 4: And now, what's the Stanford guy come in and yell

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Speaker 7: Yeah he is number seventy four.

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Speaker 4: Seventy four needs to calm down.

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Speaker 7: Why was he even in thereus he has a helmet on.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, right though, if Louisville fans and Kentucky fans had

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Speaker 4: There would definitely be a fight. Only out there at

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Speaker 4: the academic schools on the West coast. Did they know

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Speaker 4: there won't be a fight? You did that here? There

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Speaker 4: would be a fight, big fight, Mike, Go ahead, Mike. Yeah.

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Speaker 9: I'm a seventy three year old lifetime Kentucky saying and

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Speaker 9: my thoughts on I'm flip flopping back and forth weekly.

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Speaker 9: You know about stoops. But uh, I'm gonna say this. Uh,

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Speaker 10: Yes, they are.

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Speaker 4: I mean they are close to quit. They might show

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Speaker 4: I'm mad at Alexa Fari's girlfriend, right she gave us

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Speaker 5: Maybe he thought Governor's cups more important his mom. This

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Speaker 4: Joe, go ahead, Joe.

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Speaker 11: Hey, guys, you know the biggest thing that two things

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Speaker 4: And the fact that Indiana and Vandy have done it

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Speaker 4: without question makes this more difficult for Mark. Mike, go ahead, Mike, gentlemen,

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Speaker 12: Uh. Really, ultimately, I think what this boils down to,

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Speaker 12: We're going to take a loss regardless of when this happens.

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Speaker 4: And that's, by the way, what in a way, That's

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Speaker 12: Last thought on this though, is do we want our

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Speaker 6: Period? I don't want that.

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Speaker 12: I'd rather see his ass retire.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate the call. I think there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: Well, that's where I think Mark Hill becomes a viable

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Speaker 2: candidate to replace Bitch because he's already in place. He'd

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Speaker 2: if Mitch.

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Speaker 4: I mean, do you think if they make a change

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Speaker 2: Well, I think that's what I'm saying. I think he

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Speaker 4: To only have him do it if he was going

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, That's why I think if if something happens, he's

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Speaker 4: Here, Jake, Just because they have to because they have

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Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, no.

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Speaker 4: I mean that's not that's actually not a bad dog. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean it's not easy. None of this is easy.

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Speaker 4: Let's do one more, Wilson, Go ahead, Wilson, Hey man,

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Speaker 12: Look at this through the lens of a business, in

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Speaker 4: It is. Let me, let me just say one thing

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Speaker 12: So when you look at that, I believe we're into

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Speaker 4: I think those are fair points. I'm gonna have to

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Speaker 4: That is a completely fair point. I do think too

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Speaker 4: often Mitch has done what Mitch personally would do because

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Speaker 4: welcome back, take you sports Radio. If I'm nine two

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Speaker 4: don't have a ton of messages here. I don't seem

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Speaker 3: I mean, somebody has to know this guy with this

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Speaker 4: Somebody knows, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 5: He goes all the home games. I've seen him before.

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Speaker 3: Maybe he's a podcast listener and we'll get you know,

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Speaker 4: I'm just surprised there's not someone listening. Even if he's

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Speaker 10: Yes you did.

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Speaker 4: There is an amazing video on the internet that I've

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Speaker 4: And I watched that video and it's like, exactly why

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Speaker 4: Some people are filming it, but some people, Shannon, are

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Speaker 10: You're right, Sports is that one thing.

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Speaker 2: No matter what your race, no matter what your generation,

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Speaker 4: And I think, Shannon, this is the perfect song for it.

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Speaker 3: I mean who listens to this song and doesn't happy?

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Speaker 4: Right first? Does anyone not like this song?

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Speaker 5: I loved the song. I remember singing it in school

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Speaker 4: Best song, and we just played all of it and

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Speaker 10: Who is Bob? And what do we have to destroy

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Speaker 4: man standing there saying, come to Washington Square Park two

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Speaker 4: o'clock on Friday and smoke a cigarette with me, Shannon.

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Speaker 4: He went and bought two packs of cigarettes. H all right, again,

443
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Speaker 4: I may anti cigarette, but I do like these moments.

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Speaker 4: Two thousand people showed up. Wow.

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Speaker 3: Wow, I'm gonna say you might be a little optimistic

446
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Speaker 3: buying two packs of cigarettes.

447
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Speaker 7: He should have bought a few cartons.

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Speaker 4: Two thousand people showed up at this at the park. Wow.

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Speaker 4: And there's this great video of somebody brings him a

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Speaker 4: you know what do you call it a megaphone or

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Speaker 4: whatever where you can and he talks and he's crying,

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Speaker 4: and all these people just hang out and smoke a

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Speaker 4: cigarette with Bob and have this like communal moment. Drew,

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Speaker 4: I don't know why I think that's so cool, But

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Speaker 4: Bob and his cigarette, I think is a neat thing. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I feel like we should maybe not be encouraging the

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Speaker 5: cigarette smoking cigarette. No, No, I'm just hanging out, I know,

458
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Speaker 5: but I'm about to say. He yells everybody fire him up.

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Speaker 5: It's like he's all leading them to their cigarettes. I

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Speaker 5: saw the video too. I think at one point he's like,

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Speaker 5: all right, let's have another one. So everyone is just

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Speaker 5: in Unison firing up their SIGs in the park and.

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Speaker 10: He looks exactly as I thought he would look. And

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Speaker 10: he said, a seventy three old man.

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Speaker 4: From New York, he's just standing there. I did, that's

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Speaker 4: kind of a cool, a cool thing that also happens.

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Speaker 4: You really feel good.

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Speaker 10: He thinks, show that story.

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Speaker 4: Go ahead, shaw, I.

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Speaker 13: Heard your cigarette thing. Now, I just got to think,

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Speaker 13: and to give two thousand people cigarettes in New York,

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Speaker 13: that would be almost the same amount as.

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Speaker 4: The buyout, yeah, probably, so it'd be closed.

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Speaker 13: So I was thinking about this because I like to

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Speaker 13: try to think of, you know, how would I solve

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Speaker 13: this problem with stoops And I personally, I think you

477
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Speaker 13: almost have to bring you back just because of the

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Speaker 13: money for one more year. And you can tell me

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Speaker 13: how much does that change to buyout if we do

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Speaker 13: this next year?

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Speaker 4: I mean, not a ton. I think it goes down

482
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Speaker 4: to like twenty eight or twenty nine.

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Speaker 13: Still better. So I'm my owner operator truck driver, and

484
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Speaker 13: I had a truck go down and I have, you know,

485
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Speaker 13: a backup truck, So I have to make a decision

486
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Speaker 13: in my business. My livelihood is what do I do?

487
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Speaker 13: Do I go out and buy a new truck or

488
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Speaker 13: do I go buy a used truck? And well, a

489
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Speaker 13: new truck's gonna is beyond my budget. So out and

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Speaker 13: I'll buy me a used.

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Speaker 4: Truck twenty seconds, real quick truck.

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Speaker 13: If that used truck last me for five or six years,

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Speaker 13: it's okay. But what if I get the joker Phillips

494
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Speaker 13: model and it gets worse? Now I'm so upside down

495
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Speaker 13: in that truck that I don't know how I go forward.

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Speaker 13: And that's what I'm afraid Kentucky.

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Speaker 4: That's a fair point. We always we all assume the

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Speaker 4: new coach will do well. You're right, there's a chance

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Speaker 4: they wouldn't. I appreciate it. By the way, really good

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Speaker 4: calls today. Really in a long time. We'll be right back. TJ.

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Speaker 7: Smith, personal injury attorney called TJ.

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Speaker 4: One person writes, Matt, I think this has been a

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Speaker 4: really good discussion of all this, and I've now left

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Speaker 4: more confused than I was before. Another person then says, Matt,

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Speaker 4: this is an easy decision. You can't bring back a

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Speaker 4: football coach that's lost the fan base. You're never gonna

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Speaker 4: convince me that the fan base supports it. Yeah, I mean, well,

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Speaker 4: if I can't convince you, I mean I'm not even

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Speaker 4: gonna try. But I don't think. I think a lot

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Speaker 4: of the fan base is fickle. But I also think

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Speaker 4: that it's hard to know what the fan base thinks.

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Speaker 4: I think most of the fans want to see a change,

527
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Speaker 4: But I do think there's a difference between Drew wanting

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Speaker 4: to see a change in same firing those are I

529
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Speaker 4: think are not necessarily the same position.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I get it, And to me, it just all

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Speaker 5: boils down to how we're stuck in this situation because

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Speaker 5: the decision makers above Stoops. You know, Stoops has actually

533
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Speaker 5: shown that he fixed the culture of what people want

534
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Speaker 5: to know. I'm going to be careful to not defend

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Speaker 5: the season as a whole, because I'm still disappointed. But

536
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Speaker 5: some of the things he said he would fix in

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Speaker 5: March he did fix, and they could go to a

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Speaker 5: bowl game on Saturday. Starting to get into sunshine pump

539
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Speaker 5: a little bit here.

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Speaker 4: Boy, when you say disappointed, I went back and looked

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Speaker 4: at our season predictions and I picked five and seven,

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Speaker 4: and I believe all of the rest if you pick

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Speaker 4: six and six. So if we lose, we'll finish with mine.

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Speaker 4: If we win, we'll finish what you all have if

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Speaker 4: they finished six and six, And that's kind of what

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Speaker 4: you thought would happen. Are you still disappointed?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, because some of the blowouts, Like we just live

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Speaker 5: in a world where Tennessee is going to score fifty

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Speaker 5: points on us. With the current setup of Kentucky football

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Speaker 5: and then the Vandy thing. I know, the defense was

551
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Speaker 5: so beat up, but the offensive line didn't good. The

552
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Speaker 5: offense didn't look good. But we all did say the

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Speaker 5: one thing he needed to do was make a bowl game.

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Speaker 5: Well that's my point. If you win Saturday, I think

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Speaker 5: it makes it very hard to fire him.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: That does not give me any optimism moving forward, but I.

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Speaker 4: Think I'm making the most moving forward. I agree with you.

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Speaker 4: I one thing where I think I'm definitely in unison

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Speaker 4: with you is I don't have optimism moving forward. You know.

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Speaker 5: Also, I don't know if you've seen Louisvill's injury report,

562
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Speaker 5: but it's coming out. They're gonna have no one on offense.

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Speaker 5: Their top receivers now out, their top three running backs

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Speaker 5: are out.

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Speaker 4: So now we better wint. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they might

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Speaker 4: have it.

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Speaker 5: They might have a team when we get to that game.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, Drew, but up a good point.

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Speaker 2: Not just the losses they had this year, it's how

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Speaker 2: they played in those losses.

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Speaker 10: It's kind of a lingering hangover.

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Speaker 4: I agree with that. By the way, today starts Feast Week,

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Speaker 4: the Players Era Festival I don't know if you've seen

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Speaker 4: Have you seen the schedule for this Player's Era Festival today?

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Speaker 5: Tonight's or today's TV slate starts at one? Is incredib

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Speaker 5: Let me just give you games.

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Speaker 4: This is the Player's Era Festival. Here are the games. Rutgers, Tennessee, Creighton, Baylor, Kansas,

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Speaker 4: Notre Dame, Saint John's, Iowa State, Houston, Syracuse, Auburn, Oregon, Alabama, Gonzaga, Michigan,

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Speaker 4: San Diego State.

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Speaker 10: Wow.

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Speaker 4: And you can see all of those in the same

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Speaker 4: buildings GYP.

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Speaker 7: Well, next year, Kentucky needs to be a part of Kentucky.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Matt Norlander did a story that said Kentucky will

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Speaker 4: not be a part of it.

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Speaker 6: Wow.

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00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 4: Man Kentucky apparently told Matt Norlander that we make five

588
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Speaker 4: million dollars from the BBN United tip Off Classic sponsored

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Speaker 4: by Kentucky Tourism. No, I'm not kidding. Wow. And they

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Speaker 4: say they can't give it up to play in the

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Speaker 4: player as Ara Festival next year. This year, the Players

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Speaker 4: Ara Festival has sixteen teams. Next year it's going to

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Speaker 4: have thirty two, possibly forty eight, and it's going to

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Speaker 4: be and the winning teams get a million dollars in

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Speaker 4: nil for their players, and Kentucky has gone on record

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Speaker 4: Ryan and said they're not going to play in it.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like nearly every other higher profile program is

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Speaker 2: going to be there.

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Speaker 4: Well due North Carolina and Yukon. I've also not agreed

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Speaker 4: to playing it, although they are leaving open the possibility

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Speaker 4: they might play in it next year. Kentucky was the

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Speaker 4: one program that said we are not going.

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Speaker 3: Kentucky says they're not going to That sounds like a

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Speaker 3: Mitch Barnhart thing, right, There's.

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Speaker 4: No doubt in my mind that's a Mitch Barnhart.

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Speaker 7: It doesn't feel like a Mark Pope thing.

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Speaker 4: It's a money thing. It's a money thing, and it's

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Speaker 4: tough because at the same time that we're asking them

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Speaker 4: to consider getting rid of a coach with a thirty

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Speaker 4: seven million dollars buyout, we're saying they care too much

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Speaker 4: about money. But it's a money thing. These other schools

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Speaker 4: are playing and next year, folks, this tournament is going

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Speaker 4: to have every good team in the country except maybe us.

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Speaker 10: In Duke We'll be home playing Valpa and we're.

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Speaker 4: Going to be playing Eastern Illinois Valpo, and I don't

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Speaker 4: know how that's better Nichols.

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Speaker 7: Don't forget about Nichols.

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Speaker 4: There's gonna be no reason to play in it that money,

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Speaker 4: and I hate that. I hate that for our fans.

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Speaker 4: Imagine you could go to Vegas this week and with

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Speaker 4: a ticket watch all these games. Our fan base would

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Speaker 4: pack it, and then imagine that you could win a

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Speaker 4: million dollars.

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Speaker 5: Actually, I think you get a million for playing. I

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Speaker 5: think everyone that's in it gets a million dollars to

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Speaker 5: their anile.

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Speaker 4: Is that right?

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Speaker 10: Sponsors a million dollars?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, last year I think it was to win a million.

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Speaker 5: I think this year, if you're in it, you get

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Speaker 5: a million.

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Speaker 4: But then you cases we make five million from this.

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Speaker 5: The team we play Wednesday night is ranked three hundred

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Speaker 5: and twenty first in can pump.

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Speaker 4: Well, hopefully we'll wine.

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Speaker 3: Imagine you're the last got on the bench, though, and

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Speaker 3: you get a million for being on the team that

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Speaker 3: plays in that turn.

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Speaker 4: I don't think they all get a million. I don't

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Speaker 4: think every team gets a million.

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Speaker 7: Oh, I thought you meant per player.

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Speaker 4: Oh a million? My goodness, I didn't know how much

643
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Speaker 4: money they had to throw around.

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Speaker 5: ESPN story this day says each team is guaranteed at

645
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Speaker 5: least a one million dollar payout, a significant sum for

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Speaker 5: the new climate of college sports.

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Speaker 3: Even then, though, you divide that up, Oh yeah, twelve, thirteen,

648
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Speaker 3: fourteen different ways.

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Speaker 10: You know, the top recruits are watching this tournament. They're

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Speaker 10: gonna watch these teams Man T.

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Speaker 4: And T and True TV today are gonna have these games.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's just banger after banger. Now, what's weird? Though,

653
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Speaker 4: what's interesting when you're watching it today and tomorrow? Each

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Speaker 4: team only plays two games, But how do they decide

655
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Speaker 4: who goes to the finals. It's you want to know

656
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Speaker 4: the answer, it's the two teams that win both games

657
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Speaker 4: by the largest margins.

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Speaker 10: So they encourage it.

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Speaker 4: So you're not even gonna happen to just have an

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Speaker 4: incentive to win, Shannon, you have an incentive to beat

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Speaker 4: the crap out of.

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Speaker 7: The Actually love this. I love it. Don't put in

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Speaker 7: the bench.

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Speaker 4: No, the bitch ain't playing.

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Speaker 7: No, you keep your starters until the very end.

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Speaker 4: The bench is not playing. So they'll have the top

667
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Speaker 4: two teams will play, then third and four, fifth and six.

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Speaker 4: That's how they'll decide who plays is But in order

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Speaker 4: to make the finals, you're gonna have to go to

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Speaker 4: and oh, but you're gonna have to win by a lot.

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Speaker 7: I love it. Just keeping keep shooting three fifty.

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Speaker 4: So when you're watching these games, it's gonna be fascinating

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Speaker 4: because teams are not gonna stop at any point during

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Speaker 4: the game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that three where you got to know, rest your

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Speaker 2: starters to getting ready for the next game.

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Speaker 10: Nope, leave them out there the whole time.

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Speaker 4: So that'll be great to see who really runs up

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Speaker 4: the score to try to win. Junior, go ahead, Junior.

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Speaker 6: Hey fellas, let me sell this stoops tobacco up for you.

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Speaker 6: I've been a supporter for a good long time. I've

682
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Speaker 6: been fans Clayburn. I've seen a lot of bad UK football.

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Speaker 6: I'm glad these young folks don't haven't lived through what

684
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Speaker 6: I've lived through. But let me describe it to you

685
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 6: like this. Let's say you're in a loveless marriage, you

686
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Speaker 6: got a bloated mortgage, you got a couple of kids

687
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 6: still in school, you can't afford to get divorced. You

688
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 6: go to the mailbox and you find out you want

689
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Speaker 6: to all expenses paid, weekend in Gatlinburg.

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Speaker 4: And dollars keep going, keep going.

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Speaker 6: Well, it's just that that's what it is. You're trapped,

692
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Speaker 6: you can't get out, and you just like, how could

693
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Speaker 6: my bag get any worse? Just a trip to the mailbox?

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Speaker 7: At least you going to Gallenburg.

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Speaker 4: I'm kind of with you on Gallenburg, sir, and I

696
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Speaker 4: know I see it. Okay, what you said was funny,

697
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Speaker 4: But there is a sense, though, I think what you're saying, Junior,

698
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Speaker 4: sometimes you do get in a situation where you are

699
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Speaker 4: trapped and you cannot get out and there's no good solution.

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Speaker 4: That's kind of what you're saying. Can't afford the divorce.

701
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Speaker 6: You can't afford the divorce. Yeah, I gotta stay.

702
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Speaker 4: I appreciate the college. That sounded like something like.

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Speaker 10: Keep dealing with that.

704
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Speaker 4: It sounded like it came from heart. Didn't sound like

705
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Speaker 4: that was a theoretical I mean, he's not, but he's

706
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Speaker 4: not wrong. There is a sense that there. I don't

707
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Speaker 4: really think there is any good solution, which goes to

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Speaker 4: Drew's point of about, well, how did we get here? Corey?

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Speaker 14: Go ahead, Corey, Hey, guys, how's it going? I just

710
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Speaker 14: catch here and there on the show because I'm working.

711
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Speaker 14: So I apologize if I asked a questions that's.

712
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Speaker 6: Already been asked for.

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Speaker 14: But a couple of perspectives that I would like y'all's

714
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Speaker 14: opinion on is there's a lot of components to a

715
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Speaker 14: successful football team or any team that matter, and the

716
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Speaker 14: head coach is, arguably, like not one of the top components.

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Speaker 14: Like one of the top components is probably your recruiters,

718
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Speaker 14: which we lost one of our great recruiters Louisville.

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Speaker 6: This past year.

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Speaker 14: Maybe he saw the writing on the wall. I don't know.

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Speaker 14: But instead of paying stoops to get out of the position,

722
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Speaker 14: why don't we kind of double down, Why don't you

723
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Speaker 14: spend money that money on?

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Speaker 4: I would disagree with your additional promise, though, if the

725
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Speaker 4: head coach is like a CEO, and if the recruit

726
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Speaker 4: aren't good, that's on you. If the OC is not good,

727
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Speaker 4: that's on you. If the defensive coordinator's good not good,

728
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Speaker 4: that's on you. You're the CEO. So now sometimes you

729
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 4: might say, my offensive coordinator is not doing a good job,

730
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna bringing another one. He's done that a number

731
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Speaker 4: of times, like, but ultimately, at the end of the day,

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Speaker 4: the buck does stop at the head coach.

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Speaker 14: I definitely agree. Of course, when play you know it

734
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Speaker 14: gets down in the wire. I mean, look at Texas.

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Speaker 14: I mean we had you know right there where we

736
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Speaker 14: could have scored. And you know that's on the head

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Speaker 14: coach to make that decision on what place call and

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Speaker 14: how to how to store in that position. I mean

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Speaker 14: for sure, But there's other components that you could add

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Speaker 14: to to the team, like instead of spending a bunch

741
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Speaker 14: of money to get the coach out, like could we

742
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Speaker 14: spend money elsewhere?

743
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Speaker 4: But we program a lot of money. We spend a

744
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Speaker 4: lot of money, and I appreciate the call. We have

745
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Speaker 4: a huge assistant coach budget and we spent a lot

746
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Speaker 4: of money on players this year and it didn't work well.

747
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Speaker 4: It worked, but it didn't work the way we wanted

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Speaker 4: at one Wednesday in Columbia, Kentucky for the pre Thanksgiving

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Speaker 4: Don Franklin Auto Driven by Family. We'll take a break,

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Speaker 4: be right back. Final segment, Chazar Welcome back Tekee Sports

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Speaker 4: Radio eight five nine two twenty two eighty seven. All right,

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Speaker 4: so let's go from Draft Kings. Here, I go to

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Speaker 4: Draft Kings. Use my promo code. Ryan, you killed the

760
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Speaker 4: parlay again.

761
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Speaker 2: And that was the one time I made a pick.

762
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Speaker 2: I thought this is gonna be the best pick of

763
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Speaker 2: the parlay and kill.

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Speaker 4: Shannon got West, Shannon got his, Shannon got Duke, Drew

765
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Speaker 4: got Western Kentucky, I got Florida, And not only did

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Speaker 4: we win those, they weren't close like we like, sit

767
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Speaker 4: back and chill right. Western could have won that game.

768
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Speaker 4: Western could have won that game. But who Shannon was

769
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Speaker 4: not close the other way.

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Speaker 7: I hate to point people out, but Ryan.

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Speaker 4: Also, Ryan is banned UH from for at least a

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Speaker 4: few weeks because he has cost him.

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Speaker 10: I had one three in a row, though I think

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Speaker 10: we would have.

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Speaker 4: Hit like five of these during the year if not

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Speaker 4: for Ryan.

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Speaker 5: I've lost one one this season, lost two.

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Speaker 4: Maybe it's really and it's mostly been Ryan, to be honest, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's it's mostly been Ryan. All right. So for DraftKings,

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Speaker 4: let's do our pick today. Gonzaga is a four and

781
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Speaker 4: a half point favorite against Alabama. We will play both

782
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 4: of these teams in the next six weeks. Who you got?

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Speaker 10: I love this game because I think Gonzaga is really,

784
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Speaker 10: really good.

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Speaker 2: I saw a little bit of Alabama lose to Purdue,

786
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Speaker 2: so I'm taking Gonzaga to cover.

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Speaker 4: You give me Bama getting four and a half against

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Speaker 4: anybody in the country, I'm probably gonna take Bama if

789
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Speaker 4: for giving me those points, I got Bama. What about you, Drew?

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Speaker 5: I'm also taking Bama at four and a half, even

791
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Speaker 5: though I think Gonzach is a little better. But of

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Speaker 5: all the games today, I'm most excited about this one.

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Speaker 10: This is gonna be fun.

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Speaker 4: Neither of these teams is going to end up making

795
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Speaker 4: the finals of the tournament because they won't be able

796
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Speaker 4: to beat the other one by enough points. But it's

797
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Speaker 4: still a good game for him. What do you got?

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Speaker 7: You're taking Alabama money line to win?

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Speaker 13: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I like that. I think Alabama Alabama. Give them credit. Man,

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Speaker 4: They're playing a heck of a schedule. They've played Saint John's, Purdue,

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00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,240
Speaker 4: did they play Illinois Illinois?

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Speaker 12: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Now they're playing Kenzak. I mean that's a heck of

805
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Speaker 4: a schedule to start the season.

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Speaker 5: They've played three top fifteen teams in their four games.

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Speaker 10: They got the best player in the conference too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, will go ahead, Will.

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Speaker 9: Yes.

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Speaker 15: I am neither confused nor fickle. I mean, if Stoops

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Speaker 15: wins the U of L game, it's gonna be hard.

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Speaker 15: But there's absolutely no optimism momentum going into next year.

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Speaker 15: Recruiting is in the tank right now. And if I'm

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Speaker 15: Cutter Bowli's dad, I'm pulling a Tim Couch dad, and

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Speaker 15: I'm Colin Barnhart and said we will not be back next.

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Speaker 4: Year unless you make a change.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, I mean, because you're not going to get

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Speaker 15: any players. Recruitings in the tank. I mean, I realize

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Speaker 15: where we're at. We beat some awful teams, even though

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Speaker 15: it was Auburn and Florida. I don't want to take

821
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Speaker 15: away from that, but getting our brains beat out by

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Speaker 15: midle level SEC teams we were above, you know a

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Speaker 15: few years ago, it was just maddening.

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Speaker 4: All I appreciate it, that's uh, you know, glad you

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Speaker 4: stated that opinion. The there was a report that came out.

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Speaker 4: I think it was just Rowan said that their goal

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Speaker 4: in recruiting is to get JUCO players that are a

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Speaker 4: little less expensive, which wasn't the most optimistic thing in

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Speaker 4: the world. Jason, go ahead, Jason.

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Speaker 16: First time, long time now. I've listened to you since

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Speaker 16: back in the days thanks of the closet. Anyway, there's

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Speaker 16: there's a point that there's a point to all this

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Speaker 16: that hasn't been made. And I don't want to be

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Speaker 16: the voice of reason. I've listened to you for years,

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Speaker 16: and I know you're a very reasonable guy, but Mark

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Speaker 16: Stoops has not forgot how to coach football. And if

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Speaker 16: you look back at why they were successful, there's one

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Speaker 16: glaring reason, and it was recruit and developed. But when

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Speaker 16: did that stop? That stopped in the NIL era and

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Speaker 16: me and Larry Vald had a long, candid discussion and

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Speaker 16: ended up agreeing with each other extremely strongly, and he

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Speaker 16: posted it out on your Sports Edge here a couple

843
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Speaker 16: of weeks ago what we talked about, and that's the

844
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Speaker 16: fact that if you'll go back in twenty one, miss Barnhart,

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Speaker 16: who I really like. He's a good guy, but he

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Speaker 16: made a terrible mistake. He was the committee chair for

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Speaker 16: the selection committee. He took a wait and see approach

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Speaker 16: on this nil and Mark Stoops bit his tongue, held

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Speaker 16: his breath, did.

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Speaker 6: Not throw him under the bus.

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Speaker 16: And nobody's talking about this, and it's so frustrating. I

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Speaker 16: was at Vandy and I walked away dejected for the

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Speaker 16: performance on the field. But when you look at the money.

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Speaker 16: In twenty twenty three, Matt, we were the twelfth ranked

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Speaker 16: SEC school in NIL funding. The NCAA gave University of

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Speaker 16: Kentucky in twenty twenty three fifty three million dollars. We

857
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Speaker 16: spent ten million dollars on our football team. We beat

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Speaker 16: this year two schools ahead of us in NIL and

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Speaker 16: we lost to one behind us in Vandy's private They

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Speaker 16: didn't report. This is be looney that Stoops does not

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Speaker 16: know how to coach. Why don't we get to the

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Speaker 16: crux of it. It takes money. And to the last caller,

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Speaker 16: I know Cutter's family personally cool, Coach Scott loves UK.

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Speaker 16: Cutter loves UK, and I hate to bust your all's bubble,

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Speaker 16: but Cutter is here because of coach Toops. If Coach

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Speaker 16: Stoops is sent packing, I think you all are going

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Speaker 16: to be very surprised that the decision that Cutter makes.

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Speaker 16: It's not he's staying if he goes, it's he's leaving.

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Speaker 16: If he goes, they love him.

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Speaker 4: I gotta cut you off. That was a good call.

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Speaker 4: That's a good call. I don't. I've got to cut

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Speaker 4: you off because the show's going to have But but

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Speaker 4: you know, those are two good back to back calls.

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Speaker 4: And I would say Mitch screwed up by being two

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Speaker 4: to three years behind on inn Aisle, and that's on him.

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Speaker 4: And so part of my thing is, let me let

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Speaker 4: me read you this. This was a comment that came

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Speaker 4: in a few minutes ago on the postgame show. You

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Speaker 4: said in ailes the second most important change to college

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Speaker 4: sports besides integration. I do believe that. So is it

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Speaker 4: cost effective to keep Stoops and Mitch? Are they the

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Speaker 4: group to lead us into the next twenty five years?

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Speaker 4: That's the question though, And my answer is I don't

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Speaker 4: think so, especially on the Mitch part and maybe on

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Speaker 4: the Stoops as well. This is a new generation. What

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Speaker 4: worked last time ain't gonna work going forward. It's the

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Speaker 4: people who did radio when TV became important. It's the

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Speaker 4: people who did newspapers when the blogs came important. You

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Speaker 4: have to decide are you gonna embrace the new or

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Speaker 4: are you gonna be stuck in the past. And we

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Speaker 4: got stuck in the past two or three years behind,

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Speaker 4: and we got behind. And that caller is right about that. Now,

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Speaker 4: does that mean Stoops doesn't deserve criticism. I might disagree

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Speaker 4: with him on that, but it is the case that

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Speaker 4: some of what's happening right now were because we were

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Speaker 4: slow on the Nile. I don't think there's any doubt

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Speaker 4: that that's true. Great conversation, by the way, Ryan, from

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Speaker 4: these folks today, callers right today, Great, well done. Tomorrow,

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Speaker 4: I have to go to a funeral, so I will

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Speaker 4: be here in Louisville, will be in Columbia on Wednesday.

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Speaker 4: We'll see you later. It's KSR.