WEBVTT - Ep. 237: Render - Bobcats, Box Turtles, and Backwoods Bad Guys 0:00:14.680 --> 0:00:17.239 My name is Clay Nukeleman. This is a production of 0:00:17.280 --> 0:00:21.400 the bear Grease podcast called The Bear Grease Render, where 0:00:21.440 --> 0:00:25.760 we render down, dive deeper, and look behind the scenes 0:00:26.079 --> 0:00:30.560 of the actual bear Grease podcast, presented by f h 0:00:30.800 --> 0:00:35.360 F Gear, American Maid, purpose built hunting and fishing gear 0:00:35.600 --> 0:00:38.559 that's designed to be as rugged as the place as 0:00:38.600 --> 0:00:39.320 we explore. 0:00:41.960 --> 0:00:45.279 What do you got there, Brient, picture of catfish and 0:00:45.320 --> 0:00:46.680 the picture weighs eight pounds? 0:00:46.720 --> 0:00:47.280 Tell me how. 0:00:48.680 --> 0:00:50.120 The picture weighs eight pounds? 0:00:50.159 --> 0:00:52.120 Yeah, the picture weighs eight pounds. He's so big. 0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:56.639 That's big, old flathead. What did it weigh? 0:00:56.840 --> 0:00:57.880 Thirty six pounds? 0:00:58.360 --> 0:00:59.440 Thirty six pounds? 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:02.320 How did you get We caught it on the try 0:01:02.440 --> 0:01:03.560 line and turn it. 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:06.160 Loosely, turn loose the big one. 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:06.600 Yeah? 0:01:07.080 --> 0:01:08.200 What were you fishing with? 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:13.600 Uh? Brim live? I'm telling you man, it was to 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:14.840 go to confession. 0:01:15.880 --> 0:01:20.360 For using something that tastes fabulous to catch something that 0:01:20.360 --> 0:01:21.040 tastes good. 0:01:22.600 --> 0:01:24.000 We were using big. 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:26.160 It's about quantity, not quantity. 0:01:26.640 --> 0:01:28.040 We were using big blue gill. 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:30.680 Which is your favorite fish of all times. You'd rather 0:01:30.720 --> 0:01:31.880 read a blue gill than a. 0:01:32.040 --> 0:01:36.800 Steak in anything, name it anything. And we were catching 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:38.440 flat is. But it was just so much fun. 0:01:38.880 --> 0:01:40.360 How big a brim were you using? 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:44.119 Oh, buddy, hand size, that's that's a hooking them in the. 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:50.600 Tail, hooking them right in the liking worthy in the neck, Yeah, 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:54.840 in the neck, neck, like right up. 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:57.919 There where you cash fishes like that sometimes. 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:01.520 Yeah, yeah, what do you call it? Cash? Where do 0:02:01.520 --> 0:02:03.160 you call it? When you you hook them at? 0:02:04.080 --> 0:02:09.920 I know, malcam well, he said. The next he said, 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:10.440 hook like. 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:12.200 In the like in the top of the tender lawn, 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:13.960 right like that. 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:16.480 That is only Brent would think that a bluegill has 0:02:16.520 --> 0:02:20.200 a tender loin. I'm not sure that they do. Hey, 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:23.440 we need to we need to introduce, uh, introduce our guests. 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:27.560 We have really a distinguished guest on the render. This 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:29.720 is unusual because usually. 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:30.839 I'm usually here every other week. 0:02:31.320 --> 0:02:36.160 Well uh, usually the feature guest on the Bear Grease 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:38.800 is not able to be a render guest. But Russ 0:02:38.919 --> 0:02:43.720 Arthur from East Tennessee is with us today. Good to 0:02:43.720 --> 0:02:44.400 have you, Russ. 0:02:44.720 --> 0:02:46.920 It's it's great to be here and see some of 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:48.480 the faces that's been involved in this. 0:02:48.639 --> 0:02:50.200 I yeah, man, it's good. 0:02:50.560 --> 0:02:52.920 Well, and then, but the real guest who I was 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:57.040 actually talking about, as the distinguished guest is Cash. This 0:02:57.160 --> 0:03:03.120 is US's grandson, Cash. How old are you not? And uh, big, 0:03:03.840 --> 0:03:06.880 big blue gill man, I guess big fishermen. Do you 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:08.880 like the catfish? Yeah? 0:03:09.160 --> 0:03:10.399 Yeah, I like to fish a lot. 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:11.400 Good. 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:13.280 Well, it's good to have you. 0:03:14.000 --> 0:03:14.720 Nice to be here. 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:18.880 Yeah, and uh, now Bear, everybody's got a little show 0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:20.040 and tail. Is that your show and tail? 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:24.280 Oh? Sure? The eight pound pound fish and the spam socks. 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:27.760 I go, wait a minute, what. 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:31.840 Yes, Okay, okay, I'll take. 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:36.120 It like a six pack of spam socks. Okay, they're good. 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:42.600 Show break your bobcats. So so Bear killed a bobcat 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:47.480 with his treadbow. Shot it back in December, and look 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:50.240 at this. I shot it pretty much. I shot at 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:53.440 once and missed it at like three yards, had a 0:03:53.440 --> 0:03:56.080 squirrel in his mouth that pitched. The squirrel ran out 0:03:56.120 --> 0:03:59.600 ten yards behind me, and I shot at it again. 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:03.600 But it it moves so quick that it ducked and 0:04:03.680 --> 0:04:05.520 turned and the arrow just hit it right in the 0:04:05.520 --> 0:04:08.760 back of the head. Look at that. If you can't, 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:11.560 you won't really be able to see it on the video. 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:15.960 But there is a broadhead that entered right there. And 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:19.240 if it had just had a little more energy, it 0:04:19.279 --> 0:04:21.600 would be poking out the front kind of a buzz. 0:04:23.240 --> 0:04:28.599 It's like pushing the top of the skull. It's such 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:31.279 a lucky shot. I mean, it's like exactly in the 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:37.760 center of the brain or something. And now the coolest 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:40.800 part us I don't know if you heard the story earlier, 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:43.719 but the coolest part of the story. Bear was deer hunting, 0:04:44.240 --> 0:04:46.760 and that bobcat came walking down the creek with a 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:49.599 squirrel in its mouth, big gray squirrel in its mouth, 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:53.599 and he he kills this bob He shoots and the 0:04:53.600 --> 0:04:57.359 bobcat drops the squirrel, jumps up on the bank and 0:04:57.400 --> 0:05:01.640 then turns around the like, hey, I just dropped my meal. 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:04.800 You think that's why. I mean, I don't really know, 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:07.120 but it just was like ten yards standing there looking 0:05:07.160 --> 0:05:08.799 at me. Didn't have a st I know, if Brent 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:12.000 had a squirrel, yeah, and something spooked him and he 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:13.479 dropped it, he'd come back for it. 0:05:13.520 --> 0:05:15.080 Oh yeah, you'd had to shot me in the head 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:15.719 to get me off. 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:20.720 Well, you know, I've got a very short story that 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:23.680 deals with squirrels, where a friend of mine hunting squirrels 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:27.640 in the mountains back in East Tennessee. Two falls ago, 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:30.760 was still hunting squirrels and he shot two of them, 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:34.280 and he was waiting for a few more to come out, 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:36.000 and he went to pick him up. There's a little 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:38.560 bit of underbrush there, and he was trying to find him. 0:05:39.279 --> 0:05:41.280 And when he found one of them, a bear had 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:43.560 physically picked it up and was walking off. 0:05:45.160 --> 0:05:45.680 Pretty cool. 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:47.919 He was shooting a gun. 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:49.560 Yeah, he was shooting a gun. 0:05:49.600 --> 0:05:52.560 Now it's but the bear wasn't scared off by the 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:53.080 gun shot. 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:56.560 Evidently it wasn't. And but I see he had. He'd 0:05:56.600 --> 0:05:59.920 been five or ten minutes after he'd killed those two. 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:02.120 Oh, he was just sitting still. 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:04.360 Sitting still, and shot them both from the same from 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:07.479 the same location, probably twenty two were shooting at twenty 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:09.799 two and was sitting there and let the woods settle 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:12.560 down to see if any more squirrels came out. Finally 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:14.960 he decided, I'm going to pick up my squirrels, and 0:06:15.000 --> 0:06:17.880 he worked his way through the brush and met a 0:06:17.880 --> 0:06:19.240 bear that had one of his squirrels. 0:06:19.240 --> 0:06:22.120 In my day, Wow, that that is interesting. 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:24.760 So so bar and I Boone and Crockett scored that. 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:26.160 We did that. 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:29.720 Bobcat this one and one damn you killed. That's right, 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:32.760 and you're scored what eight inches even eight inches? 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:35.960 Even so, if anybody's got a bigger boone and Crockett 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:37.760 squirrel than that, we we. 0:06:37.880 --> 0:06:41.360 Bob yours bobcat squirrel. 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:43.640 Yeah, send us a pick, Send us a pick. 0:06:43.720 --> 0:06:43.880 Yeah. 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:45.600 Yeah, you know, we seen a bob cat and we 0:06:45.600 --> 0:06:47.680 was trout lying the other night where was frog gigging. 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:50.680 Then laid up on the bank. You hardly ever see them, 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:53.480 you know, just if they see you, they're they gone. 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:55.960 Yeah, and we got it was a high bank. 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:59.960 He's probably twenty thirty yards away, about thirty yards away again, 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:02.200 he was laid up there and was watching us. 0:07:02.200 --> 0:07:03.599 We got, we went on by. 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:06.360 And finally we've crossed the line where it was too close, 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:07.200 and he just got up. 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:09.560 He was like, look at those jokers wasting that brown 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:12.119 Yeah for real, nose it off. 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:15.120 Yeah, bigg hm hm hmm. 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:18.720 Well I was I was trying to think of the 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:24.960 I've killed several bobcats. The most memorable one was catching 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:27.680 one on a on a snare one time and then 0:07:27.800 --> 0:07:28.120 you know. 0:07:28.320 --> 0:07:31.040 He was like, oh he was targeting him. 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:35.040 Yeah yeah, And I remember walking up on it. You 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:36.720 had to get pretty close to the snare before you 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:39.480 could see if you'd caught anything. And I mean he 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:43.000 was like fully alive, jumped up on a bungle of 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:45.000 log and looked at me right in the eyes, big old. 0:07:45.040 --> 0:07:48.320 It was a twenty pound bobcat. Yeah, caught it right 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:49.280 over here by the house. 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:49.640 Wow. 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:55.240 Mm hm, well man, this uh what shows your bow? 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:55.480 Bear? 0:07:56.280 --> 0:08:00.280 So Bear gave us an update on the bow last time, 0:08:01.240 --> 0:08:05.360 and now it is fully complete. Well like nine, I 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:08.320 still got a kind of sand out the imperfections in 0:08:08.400 --> 0:08:11.440 the seal, but yeah, I've been shooting it a lot. 0:08:12.120 --> 0:08:16.040 It's it's about fifty pounds at twenty eight inches, so 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:21.240 it shoots. Tell us about what you about the aesthetics 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:23.960 of it, Well, it's an osage orange bow. It's a 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:26.840 snaky bow. So basically the grain on the stave that 0:08:26.880 --> 0:08:30.480 I was using just kind of has waves in it 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:34.400 like a snake, and pretty much you just follow the grain. 0:08:34.480 --> 0:08:37.640 So I put copperhead skins on the back road killed copperhead, 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:44.040 and then it's got pronghorn tip overlays from a pronghorn 0:08:44.040 --> 0:08:47.800 that my buddy killed in South Dakota. And then it's 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:51.720 got a gray fox kind of buffer on the arrow rest. 0:08:51.960 --> 0:08:54.000 That was actually the first animal I ever killed. 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:54.240 With the bow. 0:08:54.800 --> 0:09:00.880 Right up there was fox yep, gray fox And yeah, 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:03.800 I think it's if you saw that lad on the 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:06.520 ground out in the woods, you jump, wouldn't you. 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:08.920 Yeah, yeah, that is a very good job. 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:11.880 In the turkey feathers, oh right, Yeah, that's from the 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:14.240 turkey I killed this year. Yeah, it's a beautiful bow. 0:09:14.800 --> 0:09:17.160 Is there a significance in the number of turkey feathers 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:18.400 or was it just covering up? 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:21.800 This is just the right amount to cover it. But 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:24.640 it is a little shiny. I think I'm gonna kind 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:29.280 of sand it in a way where it's less shiny. 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:30.040 Yeah. 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:32.040 It shoots good though. It shoots really fast for a 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:32.560 self bow. 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:33.760 That's pretty Yeah. 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:35.400 I felt like it shot really fast. 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:38.520 Your hand good. Yeah, I did mine because you know, 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:40.240 in case you need me to. 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:41.520 Get a handle with. 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:49.839 Russ, I have something I wanted to give you you 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:53.880 and cash. You don't have that book? Do you needed 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:54.960 your outdoor Cookbook? 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:55.920 No, we do not. 0:09:56.200 --> 0:09:58.320 This is uh I want. I want to give this 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:01.080 to you guys, So if it if you haven't listened 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:04.240 to the last actually the last three episodes, we did 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:08.520 an extra drop today. You see that pretty sharp, wasn't it. 0:10:09.559 --> 0:10:15.160 We did the first episode called runt Over, where Russ 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:17.840 told the story of his early career in law enforcement 0:10:18.400 --> 0:10:22.360 getting runt over by a guy, and then the next one, 0:10:22.840 --> 0:10:26.800 the next episode was called Yellowstone Poacher, which was super interesting, 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:28.760 and then we did one today that what do we 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:33.920 call it? Appalachic Cola tree bandit yep. But so anyway, 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:39.520 Russ your man, and Russ has been also he's kind 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:43.480 of a Bear Grease hero now, and I've said this before, 0:10:43.520 --> 0:10:46.040 but I got to say it again. People listen and 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:49.400 don't get caught up. The way that I met Russ 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:53.360 was really unique for me because I did this story 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:56.840 on two guys from my hometown of me And Arkansas 0:10:56.920 --> 0:11:00.400 named Louis Dell and Charlie Edwards, who I grew up 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:02.680 my whole life. No, I mean, they were like my 0:11:02.800 --> 0:11:06.000 dad's age guys, but just grew up around them, grew 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:08.400 up around their kids and ken folk, and I mean 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:12.880 it's just these guys. They were notorious turkey poachers. There's 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:16.480 just no other way to say it. Wonderful, lovely people. 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:19.520 We did a whole story on the three full Bear 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:22.520 Grease episodes and Loui Delle and Charlie had passed away, 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:25.320 and and that was part of the reason. It just 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:26.760 kind of felt like it was time to do the 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:33.920 story is the year before, Yeah, the year before. Louis 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:35.839 deal had passed away and Charlie had passed away a 0:11:35.840 --> 0:11:41.400 few years before that. And I interviewed well, I talked 0:11:41.440 --> 0:11:47.520 to to miss Edwards, Louis Dell's wife, talked to Stony Edwards, 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:49.560 their son, talked to multiple people that knew me. And 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:53.319 it was just a neat episode that kind of contrasted 0:11:53.360 --> 0:11:58.520 this idea of these guys being notorious lawbreakers but also 0:11:58.760 --> 0:12:02.120 being people that were respected and loved in the community, 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:05.280 and kind of contrasting this this thing that I felt 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:08.080 inside of me knowing them. It's like, wait a minute, 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:11.240 do I like these guys or do I do I not? 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:15.400 I feel conflicted, And we just explored that and and 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:20.480 people loved it. I loved it well. At the end 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:22.800 of the second episode, I got a call from a 0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:28.880 friend of mine and and uh, he said, Hey, I 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:34.480 know a guy that worked Charlie ed Louis del Edwards 0:12:35.040 --> 0:12:38.240 was was assigned to work for work him undercover. And 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:40.480 he said he lives in Tennessee, and he said, I 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:44.360 can probably could get him to talk to you. Yeah, 0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:48.560 Joe Lawles, the guy who Joe, And he said he's retired, 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:52.840 he's not working in law enforcement anymore. And I was like, really, 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:58.000 because what was so interesting was that the family and 0:12:58.160 --> 0:13:02.719 all the people over there had felt like that and 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:06.680 may have had some a little bit of help with it, 0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:11.040 had felt like that that Louisdal had been worked by 0:13:11.040 --> 0:13:14.040 an undercover agent. And so they had all told me 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:17.640 the story of Louisdale and this undercover agent, you know, 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:21.200 twenty years after it happened, but it's still it was 0:13:21.280 --> 0:13:23.560 like they didn't know if it really was or not. 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:27.360 And anyway, I go and meet Russ and Tennessee. First 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:29.440 of I met him, and it was kind of like 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:33.360 talking to a ghost, you know, because i'd heard, well 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:36.319 the wildest thing. And I told you this before, Russ. 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:40.920 But Andy Brown, who would have never met you, would 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:45.079 have ever known who you were. He said. Louisdale said, 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:47.440 one time, I think there was a guy that was 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:51.640 working me undercover, a young guy, brick layer from Tennessee. 0:13:51.720 --> 0:13:54.800 And he said he was the best natural voice caller 0:13:55.160 --> 0:13:58.040 that he ever heard. So one of the first things 0:13:58.080 --> 0:14:01.360 I asked Russ when I met Russ was said, let 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:04.240 me hear your al call, let me hear your turkey call. 0:14:04.760 --> 0:14:07.880 And he and it was kind of like kind of 0:14:07.920 --> 0:14:12.080 like hearing a ghost of from thirty years ago, you know, 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:15.319 this like mirage that showed up. So let me hear 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:19.840 your yep rush No later, later, later. It was just 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:22.280 a unique it was a unique deal. And uh and 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:25.360 then you you you were on that it was and 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:28.360 it was Russ. It was this Russ Arthur. That's how 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:32.040 I met Russ. And then amongst all that, just off 0:14:32.080 --> 0:14:35.480 the cuff, he was telling me some other stories and 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:39.400 in my mind I was like, I'll be back, Yeah, 0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:41.560 I want to talk to him about those. And so anyway, 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:44.720 that's what the last really three episodes have been about, 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:48.760 and that people just like those stories are so unique. 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:49.040 Cool. 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:51.560 Anyway, that was a long way to say, here's a 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:55.440 book and guess who it's signed by, None other than 0:14:55.520 --> 0:14:59.640 one Stephen Ryan Nella. 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:02.080 He's signed the back page. 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:08.400 Well, Steve, there it is, yeah, Steve Rania. Well so yeah, man. 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:10.640 Very very much appreciated. 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:12.680 And you're gonna have to do some cooking. 0:15:12.880 --> 0:15:15.600 Yes, I think I think I got I got some 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:16.360 sugar here. 0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:17.800 Cash, I've got something better. 0:15:18.080 --> 0:15:18.520 Go ahead. 0:15:18.800 --> 0:15:21.680 Well, I'm sorry, I'm just like hogging the air here, 0:15:22.760 --> 0:15:26.120 I've got I've got a recipe in here, cash, Yeah, 0:15:28.040 --> 0:15:30.520 Clay Dutch oven bear grease biscuits. 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:31.520 Now that'll be good. 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:32.440 There you go. 0:15:32.600 --> 0:15:38.080 Hey, no, those were at Christie's regular. 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:42.560 Hey, but but who rendered down some bear grease this 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:44.880 year that we might get to make these biscuits? 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:47.600 Who killed a bear this year back in our camp? 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:49.480 That's right? 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:51.640 So maybe uh, okay, somebody in. 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:55.040 Our camp killed a good bear this year. Oh really, 0:15:55.240 --> 0:15:58.520 and one of our best friends, and we'll get him 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:02.000 to use that. But when when we're off the air, 0:16:02.240 --> 0:16:04.880 we're gonna pass this around. We're gonna get everybody's signature 0:16:04.920 --> 0:16:07.760 in there, okay. And then where will this book go? 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:10.600 Well, we'll probably keep it out the cabin. 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:11.720 You're exactly right. 0:16:12.920 --> 0:16:16.560 Thank you figured out I would have left bathroom. 0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:22.360 No, that's that is that's special because we're all about 0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:25.800 trying new food anyway, and and where it came from 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:29.520 and its meaning is very very very well received. 0:16:29.520 --> 0:16:30.040 Thank you. 0:16:30.120 --> 0:16:33.880 Yeah, you bet, you bet. Gosh, I've been uh, I've 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:38.280 been hearing about your uh your turtles. Yeah, why don't 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:40.120 you tell me about what you're doing with turtles? 0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:41.560 I got four turtles? 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:43.280 What kind? What kind? 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:47.520 I got four box turtles? And we feed them like 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:50.360 pretty much every day, me and my friends like to 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:55.640 keep up with them. We Our first turtle we found 0:16:55.800 --> 0:16:58.760 was in our neighborhood. We're just kind of random. We 0:16:58.800 --> 0:17:00.560 just thought it'd be fun to have it for the day, 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:03.480 but then we got like, we really liked it, so 0:17:03.520 --> 0:17:06.480 we kept it, and then one day he got out, 0:17:06.600 --> 0:17:10.520 but we wanted to look for more since it was 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:14.240 really fun having that one. So Ever since that, we've 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:16.480 started collecting turtles pretty much. 0:17:17.600 --> 0:17:18.520 What kind are they? 0:17:18.600 --> 0:17:20.359 They're box turtles, box turtle. 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:21.120 What do you feed them? 0:17:21.840 --> 0:17:22.159 Uh? 0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:26.080 Well, you're supposed to feed them a bunch of different 0:17:26.160 --> 0:17:30.960 like worms, vegetables, but we feel the fruit. Yeah, that's 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:33.000 pretty much only thing they'll take. 0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:36.280 Oh really yeah, now, okay, I'm kind of an old 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:41.439 turtleman myself. There was always like real shy turtles and 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:44.680 then like real like not shy turtles. How are your 0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:46.000 turtles We've got? 0:17:46.080 --> 0:17:49.960 Like, there was one that we got recently, actually the 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:54.879 day before we came here. He was really shy. 0:17:55.160 --> 0:17:57.120 He's really shy, so it wouldn't come out much. 0:17:57.240 --> 0:17:58.399 No, he was really shy. 0:17:58.600 --> 0:17:59.399 Eat in front of you. 0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:03.680 Yeah, I've seen of hunger anybody. 0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:05.680 You'd be surprised what you do when you're hungry. 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:08.320 Yeah, I've seen all of them except for the new 0:18:08.400 --> 0:18:10.119 one to eat in front of you. 0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:13.760 Do you have? I have four? Right? 0:18:13.960 --> 0:18:15.080 You told me you were going to have a hard 0:18:15.119 --> 0:18:16.439 time remembering their names. 0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:18.119 Yeah, just make up something. 0:18:18.480 --> 0:18:20.960 Yeah, they don't really tell the names. 0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:23.120 All I remember. Well, we have Larry. 0:18:23.480 --> 0:18:25.840 He was the first hurdle. He only has three legs. 0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:28.760 Yeah, whoa what leg is he missing? 0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:31.000 He's missing is back right? 0:18:31.920 --> 0:18:32.760 His favorite one. 0:18:34.440 --> 0:18:37.280 And Larry was the first one that wasn't able to 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:38.439 climb out of our pans. 0:18:40.600 --> 0:18:44.200 Larry. You might be extending Larry's life and keep him. 0:18:45.440 --> 0:18:48.880 He's a little vulnerable, does he when he walks? Does 0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:51.119 he drag that back right side of his shell? He 0:18:51.440 --> 0:18:53.320 kind of skid marks on the back of it. 0:18:53.280 --> 0:18:56.560 It's kind of like the bone. He still likes to 0:18:56.640 --> 0:18:59.920 move it because it's still like a little little nub. Yeah, 0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:02.360 but he likes to move it, and it sometimes will 0:19:02.440 --> 0:19:04.000 dry against the concrete. 0:19:04.080 --> 0:19:05.920 I bet he feels it itching and it's not. 0:19:05.880 --> 0:19:09.959 There, Well, tell him what your what your goals on 0:19:10.000 --> 0:19:12.520 these turtles? What are we going to do with them? 0:19:12.960 --> 0:19:16.960 Oh, we want to try to breed them to get 0:19:17.320 --> 0:19:21.520 babies and then release them into the u at our farm. 0:19:21.800 --> 0:19:24.480 Oh that's you know. My brother I was down there 0:19:24.480 --> 0:19:25.000 the other day. 0:19:25.040 --> 0:19:26.359 We were getting ready to go to the river and 0:19:26.400 --> 0:19:29.560 go fishing, and he had an old wire milk crk 0:19:29.640 --> 0:19:31.280 right on the edge of his yard and I said, 0:19:31.320 --> 0:19:33.720 what's in that old milk crate? And he said nothing. 0:19:33.800 --> 0:19:37.040 He said, but underneath it, he's a turtle nest. And 0:19:37.080 --> 0:19:40.280 he saw a tearraf and get over there and dig 0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:43.399 a hole and lay the eggs. And when she'd left, 0:19:43.480 --> 0:19:45.679 he put that over there so nothing would dig it up. 0:19:45.760 --> 0:19:47.560 He's been waiting for him to hatch out. 0:19:47.640 --> 0:19:50.040 So if he has any questions, I'm gonna have him 0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:52.720 call you for some for some consulting word. 0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:56.520 Okay, you think that that curple turtle could get a 0:19:56.520 --> 0:19:58.600 prosthesis or something, he could release them back. 0:19:58.480 --> 0:20:00.280 Into the wild baby. 0:20:01.560 --> 0:20:03.679 Carve out a little peg leg for it. 0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:04.679 There you go. 0:20:04.920 --> 0:20:08.320 He asked a question the other day about when the 0:20:08.440 --> 0:20:11.120 when the new turtles hatch out, do you think any 0:20:11.119 --> 0:20:15.439 of them will only have three legs. 0:20:14.960 --> 0:20:17.080 I get a good question was it a was it 0:20:17.240 --> 0:20:19.520 genetic flaw or did he lose it in an accident? 0:20:19.680 --> 0:20:24.000 Or perhaps Larry is a daredevil that can be genetic too. Yeah, 0:20:24.119 --> 0:20:25.040