1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Asia for this Thursday, April sixth 2 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: in Hong Kong, Wednesday April fifth in New York. Coming 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: up today, some weaker than expected US economic data aggravates 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: fear of recession. The regional lender Western Alliance tries to 5 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: soothe worries about its deposit balance, and Saudi Arabia hikes 6 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: oil prices to Asia. President Si Ngwen says it's more 7 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: important now than ever to protect democracy in the world. 8 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: Meeting with Kevin McCarthy, who assures US bonds President mccron 9 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: and Beijing with President she saying China can have a 10 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: role in Ukraine. I'm at Baxter with Global News. That's 11 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: all straight ahead on Bloomberg Daybreak Asia, the business news 12 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: you need to start your day in just one fifteen 13 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: minute podcast available on Apples, Spotify, the Bloomberg Business app 14 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: and everywhere you get your podcasts. Good morning, I'm Bonnie 15 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: Quinn and I'm Doug Prisoner. Here are the story as 16 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,959 Speaker 1: we're following today. Cleveland FED President Laretta Mester saying FED 17 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: officials will need to hike interest rates a little bit 18 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: higher and then hold them there for some time. Mester 19 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: said this will be necessary for the FED to make 20 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 1: sure inflation is on a sustainable downward path. We're going 21 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: to be sort of calibrating in order to see that 22 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: inflation is going to move down in my own fork, 23 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: as I said, it will take some time to get 24 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: inflation back now, but I you know, I think we're 25 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: going to make some appreciable progress this year, and then 26 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: continue to make progress next year and then hit two 27 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: percent in twenty twenty five. Mester estimates that a closely 28 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: watch gage of inflation will reach three and three quarters 29 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: percent by the end of twenty twenty three. Now Master 30 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: does not vote on monetary policy decisions this year, but 31 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 1: she said she's open to adjusting her outlook on policy 32 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: based on how the US economy evolves. The regional bank 33 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: Western Alliance is trying to soothe worries over its deposit balance. 34 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: That story from Bloomberg's and Kates Wall Street has been 35 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: focused on the metric after a run on deposits contributed 36 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: to the collapse of three lenders in March and a 37 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: regulatory filing. Western Alliance reported an eleven percent decline and 38 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: deposits in the first quarter, but balances have increased so 39 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: far this month, cutting the drop this year to nine percent. 40 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 1: That disclosure ease concerns after Western Alliance updated the bank's 41 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,679 Speaker 1: financial status without including the deposit figure. Strategists at true 42 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: As Securities say the deposit situation is better than feared. 43 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: In Washington and Kate's Bloomberg Daybreak, Asia, UBS chairman column 44 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: Kellaher said the integration of Credit Suis will take three 45 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: to four years, excluding the windown of the investment bank. 46 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 1: This comes after UBS agreed to Baya, it's long standing 47 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: rival for three billions who was Frank's, and an historic 48 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: transaction last month. The government broker emergency deal was aimed 49 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: at putting an end to a crisis of confidence at 50 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: Credit Suis. Here's Kelliher speaking at UBS's annual general meeting. 51 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: This transaction is the first merger of two global systemically 52 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: important banks. This is not in any way an easy 53 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: deal to do and brings the significant execution risk. In 54 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: a separate presentation, UBS Vice chairman Lucas Gaviller said that 55 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: the Credit Suiss brand will continue to exist in Switzerland 56 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: for the foreseeable future. He added that the bank will 57 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: consider all options for Credit suizas local business. In other news, 58 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 1: the Swiss government said that credit suezas top executives will 59 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: have outstanding bonuses canceled or cut by up to half. 60 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: It's a result of state aid being provided by the 61 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: Swiss Central Bank last month to help shore up the 62 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: bank's liquidity. And a warning today from the International Monetary Fund, 63 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: the IMF says growing mistrust between Washington and Beijing may 64 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: put global GDP at risk. That story from Bloomberg's Joan Wong. 65 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: The IMF warned that US China tensions could lead to 66 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: foreign direct investment and other capital being channeled toward aligned 67 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: blocks of countries. This was set in an extrat release 68 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: from the IMFs upcoming World Economic Outlook. One scenario and 69 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: modeled included a world splintered into US and China centered camps, 70 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: with some countries, including India and Indonesia non aligned. The 71 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: IMF said this could result in global output falling by 72 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: one percent in five years and two percent long term, 73 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: and risk would be particularly high for some emerging and 74 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: developing nations. A separate IMF analysis warnant their rising tensions 75 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: could lead to cross border outflows that would threatened financial stability. 76 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: Both full IMF reports are scheduled to be released next 77 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: Tuesday during the IMF's Spring meetings in Washington. In Hong Kong, 78 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: Joan Wang Bloomberg Day Brigasia, Saudi Arabia is hiking official 79 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: selling prices for all of its oil sales to Asian customers. 80 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 1: In Maine, state owned Saudi Aramco raised its selling price 81 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 1: for flagship Arab Light crude to Asia by thirty cents 82 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: of barrel. The hike comes days after the Kingdom led 83 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: a surprise OPEC plus production cut. Traders who were surveyed 84 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: before the OPEC plus decision had expected Arab Light prices 85 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 1: to fall by forty three cents. Amaryl, One analyst at UBS, 86 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: says the new prices showed that Saudis are still expecting 87 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: strong Asian demand for crude. Aramco currently sells about sixty 88 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: percent of its crew shipments to Asia, China, Japan, South 89 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: Korea and India. The biggest fers mentioned a moment ago 90 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: the week economic data here that we had in the 91 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 1: US not only the service sector PMI, but the ADP 92 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: figure on private payrolls. Now. At one point today, the 93 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 1: yield on the ten year treasury was around one hundred 94 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 1: and fifty basis points below the yield on the three 95 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: months t build. That's the widest that we've seen in 96 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: decades historically. This is a pretty reliable indicator that the 97 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: economy is headed for a severe slowdown now. Right now, 98 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: the swaps market is showing Bett's favoring a pause in 99 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: FED tightening rather than another twenty five basis point increase 100 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: at the May FOEMC. Let's check Global News next here 101 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: on Daybreak Asia, Taiwan's president saying when has received assurances 102 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: from US House Speaker Kevin McCarthy, the ties between the 103 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: two have never been stronger at Baxter with more from 104 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: the Bloomberg newsroom in San Francisco, Eddie, Yeah, exactly right, Doug. 105 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 1: Presidents I saying very strongly talking about the importance of 106 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: freedom and democracy in today's world, we must the game 107 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: ourselves in the world where democracy is understood and the 108 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: urgency of keeping the beacon of freedom shining cannot be 109 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: understated and stresses strength. President Reagan said it best. Freedom 110 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: is never more than one generation away from extinction. It 111 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: must be fought for and defended constantly, really by each generation. Now, 112 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: McCarthy saying, the US will honor its obligations and with 113 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: Bloomberg's Emory Hordern exclusively said dialogue internationally is extraordinarily important. 114 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 1: If we want to make sure that we foster democracy 115 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: and peace and make sure we don't get into any 116 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: type of conflict. People need to sit down. And what 117 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: China needs to understand is they can't dictate who speaker 118 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: the House can need with baby before or friend. For 119 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: the same moment that mccrone's sitting out with Presidency, I 120 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: think that's great. I would sit down with President now again, 121 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 1: McCarthy speaking with Bloomberg's Ann Marie Hordern. Now, Anne Marie 122 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: has been covering this all day, and she says, truly historic. 123 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: It is the first time I've seen a Taiwanese leader 124 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: sit down with the Speaker of the House, who is 125 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: the third highest ranking government official on US soil. Now, 126 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: China has already responded to this meeting, Bloomberg Joe Matthews 127 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: saying China has already sent warships into the north of 128 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: the Taiwan Street, Taiwan's Ministry of Defense reporting spotting fourteen 129 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: Chinese military aircraft three navy vessels in the area over 130 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: the past twenty four hours, and at US Secretary of 131 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: State Anthony blinkin caution in China not to overreact private 132 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: their unofficial, but they've been going on for years and 133 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: President Say and her predecessors have done the same thing. Now. 134 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: McCarthy mentioned meeting with presidents. President She China's president that 135 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: that in reference to France President Amalia mccran being in 136 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: Beijing as we speak. Now. Mccron is saying China can 137 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: play a role in Ukraine and that he opposes any 138 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: moves to decouple from the world's second largest economy. He 139 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: says he will push Europe to take a more moderate 140 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: stance toward Beijing and New Zealand Prime Minister Justina ardur 141 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: And has exited her role as prime minister. You can 142 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: be anxious, sensitive, kind and wear your heart on your sleeve. 143 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: You can be a mother or not. You can be 144 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: an ex Mormon or not. You can be a nude, 145 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 1: a crier, a hugger. You can be all of these things. 146 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: And not only can you be here, you can lead 147 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: just like me. Global news power by more than twenty 148 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: seven hundred journalist and analysts and over one hundred and 149 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,079 Speaker 1: twenty countries. In San Francisco, I'm Ad Baxter, and this 150 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: is Bloomberg. All right, Eddie, thank you day bray Kje. 151 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: I'm Doug Prisner along with Vannie Quinn in the Bloomberg 152 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: Interactive Broker studio in New York. I want to take 153 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: a closer look now at today price section with our 154 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: own Mike Reagan, who is Bloomberg Market Senior Editor. He 155 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 1: is on the line from here in New York. Mike, 156 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: it's always a pleasure. I was noting a moment ago. 157 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: If you look at what the swaps market is indicating 158 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: right now, the bet seemed to favor a FED pause 159 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: rather than more tightening in May, and even with that, 160 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: there was weakness in pockets of the equity market. How 161 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: do you explain this? Well, but I think, for one thing, 162 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: you have to look at just what a blockbuster first 163 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: quarter was, you know, Matt Stack one hundred up twenty percent, 164 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 1: SMP up seven percent. So you know, now that we 165 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: turned the calendar into a fresh quarter this week, I 166 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: think some of the motivation that that really caused that rally, 167 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 1: especially towards the end of the quarter when people were 168 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: say rebalancing into target allocation, you know, sixty forty type 169 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: of portfolios or just simply window dressing to say, hey, 170 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: I bought the winners this quarter to my investors and 171 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: my fund. That motivation, you know, it's hard to quantify 172 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: exactly how much that helped towards the end of the quarter, 173 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 1: but to what extent it did, that motivation's dried up. 174 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:12,559 Speaker 1: So now today we're sort of left looking staring at 175 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: the data points. And while it's true the Fed may pause, 176 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 1: I think, you know, the signal from the ECO data 177 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: is that these rate hikes are starting to bite. You know, 178 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: the ISM number was well below estimates at fifty one 179 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: point two, and the new orders and employment component of 180 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: that survey we're fairly weak. Two. Also, the ADP jobs 181 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: number one hundred and forty five thousand private sector jobs added, 182 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: that's way down from the previous month, uh, way below 183 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: the estimates. Two with sixty five thousand below the estimates. 184 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: So a pause, I think, you know, would be welcome 185 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: by the equity market, but we're I think we're still 186 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: waiting to see, well, how how much effect will the 187 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: rate hikes we've seen already continue to pack the economy, 188 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: Because as Chairman Powell say repeatedly and famously, you know, 189 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 1: there are variable and lagging effects to monetary policy. So 190 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 1: I feel like the market is kind of waiting for 191 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: more shoes to drop as far as where this monetary 192 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: tightening is going to slow the economy and to what degree. 193 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,719 Speaker 1: So that's kind of the theme of the day, though. 194 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: I think, you know, the big stories that we're in 195 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: a new quarter now, and you know, fun investors, fund 196 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: managers have a fresh sheet to work with, and that 197 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: motivation that might have had them buying at the end 198 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 1: of the quarter is no longer there. Does that imply 199 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: like that the equity market is not yet pricing in 200 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: any kind of recession. I mean, this is the body 201 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: of the debate that everyone has all day. I mean, 202 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: I think the argument that it has is that, look, 203 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: we were down twenty percent last year in the SP 204 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: five hundred, even though we did have two percent economic growth. 205 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: So how much of a whether it be a soft 206 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: landing or a shallow recession, was priced in by that um? 207 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: And is the equity market seeing through the week spell 208 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: that's about to hit us um? I think it would 209 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: be unusual historically for the market to sort of just 210 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: rally through a real contraction in growth. But at the 211 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: same time, you know, we really we went into unchartered 212 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: waters when the pandemic hit. And while you know, lights 213 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: back to normal and we've kind of learned to live 214 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: with the virus, I feel like the financial markets really 215 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: haven't normalized yet. So it's hard to really say. And 216 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:37,359 Speaker 1: I think most investors you talked to UM and strategists, 217 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: especially the sell side strategists, are very bearish. If they 218 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 1: are buying stocks, they're looking at quality UM, which ironically 219 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 1: is these naz BAC one hundred companies, the top tier 220 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: of them, your Apple, Microsoft, that sort of stock uh 221 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: these days. UM. So it's interesting, interestingly, those were the 222 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: stocks that had the biggest drag on the market today, 223 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: which sort of leads me to back to that notion 224 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,599 Speaker 1: that well, we got that first quarter out of the 225 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 1: way and the rebouncing and window dressing that goes along 226 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: with that, and now it's a fresh sheet of paper 227 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:14,199 Speaker 1: for this quarter and kind of the markets back to 228 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:18,839 Speaker 1: playing the cards as they come with the economic data 229 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: and sort of holding your breath waiting for that earning 230 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: season to approach. And to that point, I mean, I'm 231 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: looking at using the WI function on the Bloomberg terminal, 232 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: a little bit of defensiveness in the rotation into things 233 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: like utilities and healthcare kind of defensive pockets of the 234 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: market and out of things that are more economically sensitive, 235 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: whether it's consumer discretionary or industrials. So yes, we're keeping 236 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: money to working the equity trade, but maybe positioning ourselves 237 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: a little more defensively. Yeah, I think that's absolutely right, Doug. 238 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: And you know, the sort of the definition of what's 239 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: defensive has changed a little bit. Your Microsofts and Apple 240 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,080 Speaker 1: are now considered very defensive. But they all did so 241 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: well in the first quarter that I think, you know, 242 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: you're right that maybe some classical defensive positioning in the 243 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: healthcare Uh. You know, Jane Jay had a big rally, 244 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: but they had news about their their cancer settlement as well, 245 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 1: so um, you know, a little bit of a mixed 246 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: message there. But you know, I think ultimately it all 247 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: comes down to the job market, right, and the job 248 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: market had for so long looked bulletproof regardless of inflation, 249 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: regardless of FED rate hikes. Now we're starting, I think 250 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: people are starting to question that a little bit. With 251 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: the week ADP number yesterday, we saw the job openings 252 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: the Jolts report come down back below ten millions. I mean, 253 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: still historically a huge number of job openings, but well 254 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: off of those highs that we saw of over eleven millions. 255 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: So I think a little bit of nervous nervousness ahead 256 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: of the payrolls report on Friday, you know, that's expected 257 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: to show a dip down to about two hundred and 258 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: thirty five thousand jobs from over three hundred thousand the 259 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: previous months. So I think where the labor market goes 260 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: will will really dictate where the equity market goes. If 261 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: in fact these numbers that we're seeing, uh, there's Carrie 262 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: through to that, and we do see more sort of 263 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: weakness in the labor market that has been so red 264 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: hot throughout all of this. Real quick, Mike, if you 265 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: can buying Bowski recommending buying the dip and financials anybody 266 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: else doing that. There's certainly uh, people, you know, whatever 267 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: you see this type of dift in regional banks. There's 268 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: there's definitely the contrarians saying there's got to be some 269 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: bargains there. There's a lot of sort of m and 270 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: a speculation, speculation heating up that some of the weaker 271 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: regional banks might get um U taken over by larger banks. 272 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: And that there will be a little bit more leeway 273 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: for UH from the government to allow the real big 274 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: banks to get even bigger with some takeovers. So certain 275 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: there certainly is a pocket of investors that are take 276 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: a hard look at financials. 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