WEBVTT - #480 - Blu & Exile 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:03.080 Yo, what a world. This is Blu Blue, this is 0:00:03.120 --> 0:00:04.960 Exile and we're live on. 0:00:04.880 --> 0:00:12.680 A bootleg keV podcast. Check us out, Yo, bootleg keV podcast. 0:00:12.800 --> 0:00:15.400 Man special guests in here. We got Blue and Exile 0:00:15.440 --> 0:00:16.040 in the building. 0:00:16.120 --> 0:00:18.560 Well well oh yeah, ye years was up with a 0:00:18.640 --> 0:00:24.280 keV what's up? Manill it to you guys. I know recently, 0:00:24.400 --> 0:00:27.840 you guys just celebrated what year anniversary of Below the 0:00:27.880 --> 0:00:28.600 Heavens was it? 0:00:29.240 --> 0:00:32.000 We just celebrated at the fifteenth, but it's I think 0:00:32.040 --> 0:00:35.560 it's the eighteenth now or seventeenth, seventeenth. 0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:38.520 It's such a classic album, man, Oh good looks man? Yeah, 0:00:38.560 --> 0:00:40.440 all these years later. It's crazy because I just think 0:00:40.560 --> 0:00:43.640 I think about, like how like an underground classic, Like 0:00:43.720 --> 0:00:45.760 not a lot of people can say that, like the 0:00:45.840 --> 0:00:48.680 strength of like how amazing a project was like landing 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:51.840 them on a like I feel like that Double XL 0:00:51.880 --> 0:00:55.279 cover was important because you were like a representation of 0:00:55.360 --> 0:00:58.400 like to me, like a like a demographic of hip 0:00:58.440 --> 0:01:01.680 hop that like Double XL's kind of for about you know. Yeah, yeah, 0:01:01.840 --> 0:01:03.120 who I was on your Freshman cover? 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:06.600 Oh let me see Asher Roth Mickey Fax. 0:01:06.880 --> 0:01:08.880 That was that was like the second one. 0:01:08.760 --> 0:01:11.560 Right, Yeah, that was the second one, yeap, yup, yup. 0:01:11.720 --> 0:01:14.000 Yeah, that was like wile A was on it, right, 0:01:14.080 --> 0:01:15.880 wile A was on it, Cutty was on it. 0:01:16.319 --> 0:01:17.880 Yeah, very blog era. 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:22.119 Yeah, definitely that time yup, Yeah, that's. 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:24.200 That was actually the cover that kind of like, uh 0:01:25.080 --> 0:01:26.800 made that ship because the first cover I feel like 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:28.320 kind of came and went I think like Crooked I 0:01:28.440 --> 0:01:30.800 was on it, Joel was on it. But the second 0:01:30.800 --> 0:01:33.920 cover I feel like kind of really kicked off like 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:36.560 the wave of that freshman class meaning. 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:39.520 Yeah, right, I feel that. I feel that. Yeah, that 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:41.120 was dope. Man. It was an honor to be a 0:01:41.160 --> 0:01:42.720 part of that class man, you know what I mean? 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:48.360 Man, You guys, uh, obviously just put out a new album. 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:50.760 What what was What was it about the timing to 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:53.840 give the fans something that they've been asking for in 0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:54.640 twenty twenty four? 0:01:55.400 --> 0:01:57.800 X always say, you know, we dropped it because I 0:01:57.880 --> 0:02:01.000 finally stopped dropping albums for so he had a little 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:02.840 window to drop something. You know what I mean, I've 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:04.279 been dropping so much lately. 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:07.240 You have you been super active? Yeah? 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:09.440 Yeah, man, you know what I mean, been going hard? 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:12.160 Uh have my son Man and I just turned it up, 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:12.880 you know what I mean? 0:02:13.520 --> 0:02:15.720 Would you say, because sometimes it happens the other way. 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:17.239 You'll have kids and then you'll be like, I'm gonna 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:17.639 kick back. 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:19.799 Yeah for real, for real, you know what I mean. 0:02:19.880 --> 0:02:22.720 But you gotta pay those bills extra mouth to feed, man, 0:02:22.800 --> 0:02:23.399 you know what I mean. 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:26.360 So would you say that the having a kid motivated 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:28.960 you to have more output musically? 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:31.480 Yeah, definitely. I just turned it up. I went an 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:33.320 overdrive when my son was born. 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:33.840 Yeah. 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:37.560 You know, I recorded like, uh seven albums last year, 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:38.560 that's you know what I mean. 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:41.320 Yeah, I was just telling you the album with Evidence 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:44.560 is special. Man. Oh thanks, some real fucking you know, 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:47.880 for anybody who's like a fan of like like early 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:51.040 two thousands, late nineties, just La boombap shit gave me 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:51.800 like real remnants. 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:54.520 Oh, word up, word up for sure. Yeah, definitely. 0:02:54.560 --> 0:02:56.520 What's the difference between like working on with someone like 0:02:56.560 --> 0:02:58.200 EV and working with you know, one of the greatest 0:02:58.200 --> 0:02:59.560 to ever touch an NPC right now? 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:00.240 Man? 0:03:02.480 --> 0:03:05.119 There's a lot of similarities actually, you know what I mean. 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:07.880 Both of them are perfectionists in their own right, you 0:03:07.880 --> 0:03:12.399 know what I mean. But the difference. I always try 0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:14.240 to make the music different, you know what I mean, 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:16.520 And the music is already different, you know what I mean, 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:20.880 between Evan and Exile or you know Shaffique or you 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:23.440 know Roy Royal with me, I tend to work with 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:25.440 one producer on a project. 0:03:25.080 --> 0:03:27.720 Which is important. I feel like it's the lost art form. 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:31.440 Yeah, man, it helps. It helps keep the consistency, you 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:33.680 know what I mean. And a project. You know, I 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:36.320 love that. I love the consistency of an album that 0:03:36.360 --> 0:03:38.480 you could just put it on and you get the 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:40.680 whole vibe. You just listen to the whole tape, you 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:41.160 know what I mean? 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:45.680 Uh X for you man? Like you? I feel like 0:03:45.720 --> 0:03:48.760 are somehow one of the more underrated producers in the game. 0:03:50.400 --> 0:03:52.600 What outside of working with Blue? Like, what else have 0:03:52.640 --> 0:03:54.320 you been working on? What else you got going on? 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:57.960 Back recently? Uh? 0:03:58.400 --> 0:04:04.240 Let's see uh uh. Me and Fashion have been starting 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:05.440 to work a little bit more. 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:10.120 He's on the album right, Yeah, he's on the album 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:10.560 as well. 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:14.040 Me and Blue still got a whole bunch more. We're 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:18.160 still working a lot as well. Yeah, we got some 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:22.479 more in store. I did an Exile radio album where 0:04:22.480 --> 0:04:25.240 I sampled everything off of like LA Radio Waves, the drums, 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:27.360 the high hats, and I got. 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:30.440 A part two cooking wait when you say you sampled 0:04:30.440 --> 0:04:32.320 everything off of so you would like just listen to 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:36.640 the radio and sample straight from radio de Yeah. 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:39.320 Wow yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a it's a slept on, 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:43.560 it's a slept on, a gem of a It's all instrumental, yeah, instrumental. 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:47.280 But my goal was to try to have like a 0:04:47.320 --> 0:04:50.520 real message with the music. So I was able to 0:04:50.600 --> 0:04:53.400 kind of like manipulate what I heard on the radio 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:54.960 into a message that I stood by. 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:56.960 So well, I gotta check that out. Yeah, you know 0:04:57.000 --> 0:04:59.080 it's has anybody trying rapping over that ship? 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:03.479 Yeah? Actually Evidence did a full album to that. 0:05:03.960 --> 0:05:06.720 Really, yeah, what he did. 0:05:06.839 --> 0:05:09.400 But then at the same time, I was doing an 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:12.680 album where I was getting different artists to wrap on 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:14.880 it as well. I put it out It's called am FM, 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:18.440 and I fucked it all up. I should have just 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:20.640 I should have put that out because now I'm trying to. 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:22.120 Get it's not out. 0:05:22.440 --> 0:05:23.440 We only used some of it. 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:26.919 Yeah, he did a whole album just to that. He did. 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:29.880 What in the world in which Evidence is not rapping 0:05:29.920 --> 0:05:33.360 as much as I'd like him too. That sounds amazing. 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:38.240 Yeah, yeah, you can hear some of it. It's called AMFM. 0:05:38.360 --> 0:05:39.800 Exile AMFM, So. 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:41.640 There are some of the evidence, but he did a 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:42.119 whole project. 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:45.120 He did it was dope. Man. I was just like 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:48.719 so involved in the project I was already doing. I'm like, 0:05:48.720 --> 0:05:51.440 oh man, I'm already doing this, but I always kind 0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:54.920 of kicked myself for it and let that one drop Blue. 0:05:54.960 --> 0:05:56.920 I'm curious like your Oh, I guess both of you 0:05:56.960 --> 0:05:59.600 guys growing up in southern California. I would say you 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:02.280 guys were kind of like the generation. I mean, you 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:05.320 guys are like blog era, Yeah, very much so right, 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:07.680 And prior to you guys, there was like dilated people's 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:12.479 in J five and Freestyle Fellowship and all that. What 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:15.040 were some of your bigger inspirations in terms of just 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:17.960 like the southern California hip hop scene that I feel 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:19.000 like doesn't get enough shine. 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:24.960 Everybody that was coming out man, J five, self scientific. 0:06:24.480 --> 0:06:26.279 Self scientific for sure, come on. 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:30.040 Man, the Stone Store, Roster, Oh no, Med you know 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:36.080 what I mean, Mad Lib Man there from the Bay, Yes, 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:37.640 and I from the Bay. 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:40.640 King T and DJ Pooh. That's kind of one of 0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:43.839 my first inspirations to want to do a full production album. 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:47.800 Actually really shout to the Liquid crew man, Yeah, yeah, serious. Yeah, 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:50.960 even all that like era or right before I'm talking 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:52.919 about just like like the I feel like there was 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:55.440 like such a dope underground scene in La. Oh yeah 0:06:56.480 --> 0:06:56.840 I was. 0:06:57.120 --> 0:06:59.359 I was a teenager standing out in front of the 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:02.560 club selling tapes out of my backpack, mixtapes and that's 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:05.479 what got me and Alo popping off. We had a 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:08.839 group called Eminon and one tape would be a mixtape 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:10.760 of everybody that we fucked with, and the other side 0:07:10.800 --> 0:07:13.040 would be all of our songs. So I'd be like, Yo, 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:15.480 buy this tape. It's got all these cats, and then 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:16.280 they were able. 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:17.240 To listen to the other side. 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:20.720 Yeah, this is this is a pre you know, internet era. 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:23.280 So we went viral by our you know, the tapes 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:26.120 being dubbed and dubbed and dubbed, right, and those are 0:07:26.120 --> 0:07:26.560 the days now. 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:28.280 Alos on the album, right, Alos on. 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:30.960 The album as well. Yeah. But back then, yeah, you know, 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:35.040 Project blowed living legends. You know. 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:37.560 I just remember like as a kid going to Fat Beats. 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:39.760 I grew up in Phoenix, so we can't we drove 0:07:39.800 --> 0:07:42.200 out here to go to uh. I think it was 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:44.240 the ex Oh yeah, it was the Dilated People's Expansion 0:07:44.280 --> 0:07:48.360 Team released like week and we went to Fat Beats 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:49.720 and I went to Fat Beats for the first time 0:07:49.760 --> 0:07:51.640 and it was like fucking I was like, this is 0:07:51.680 --> 0:07:54.440 the greatest place on earth. And there was very much 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:57.960 like I remember, like dudes selling like their ship like 0:07:58.040 --> 0:07:59.680 to the people in line, like that was like a 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:00.160 real thing. 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:03.400 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, those are the days, man. I 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:06.160 would I would easily press the button to get rid 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:10.200 of Internet and just slank tapes out of the backpack. Again, No, 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:10.800 I don't know. 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:12.960 Well, for I wonder too, could you guys have kind 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:17.040 of seen different sides of the music industry in terms 0:08:17.040 --> 0:08:20.400 of just kind of evolution of how it's being monetized, right, 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:25.640 like streaming and you kind of hear streaming obviously it's 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:27.280 a little predatory in the way you get paid. But 0:08:27.320 --> 0:08:31.320 there is like less of a barrier between fans and 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:33.960 artists now, like you could just hit upload, I guess, 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:36.120 you know, as opposed to like we got to press 0:08:36.200 --> 0:08:38.439 up CDs and we gotta press up vine and all that. 0:08:38.920 --> 0:08:42.680 What would you guys say, like, for like a, I 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:45.200 guess the business model of your music? How has it 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:46.319 changed over the years? 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:51.079 For me? The first the first album we did below 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:54.600 the heavens. Right when it dropped, they told us, you know, 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:57.160 iTunes was just getting popping, you know what I mean. 0:08:57.240 --> 0:08:58.400 It was like, oh seven right. 0:08:58.280 --> 0:09:00.600 They put up they put our tape on on uh 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:02.880 on iTunes. I don't even think it was. 0:09:03.520 --> 0:09:06.360 And our album leaked, so it was actually like the 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:09.320 blog era that really saved us and championed us, Like 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:13.560 our album leaked and okay player chat rooms is really. 0:09:13.760 --> 0:09:14.960 Yeah, blue and bus up. 0:09:15.559 --> 0:09:17.600 Like we we were on the road touring before the 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:20.400 album even dropped, and there was cats who knew the 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:23.199 word the lyrics to the songs we were doing, and 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:24.440 me and me and we were bugging out. 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:27.240 Yeah, we were debuting the songs and. 0:09:26.840 --> 0:09:28.240 You were thinking that you guys were doing it for 0:09:28.240 --> 0:09:29.319 the first time and people know. 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:31.120 The lyrics exactly exactly. 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:36.160 The whole tour message boards were crazy. Yeah yeah, yeah, no, 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:38.200 that's how like my name Bootleg keV I got it 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:40.120 because I was I would go on those message boards 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:44.480 download mixtapes because it was like the mixtape era. I 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:47.040 would just with little money I had go buy some CDs, 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:47.559 burn them. 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:52.360 I go to the spot that's that face to face 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:55.680 energy like g UNIT radio and like that. 0:09:55.679 --> 0:09:58.400 That's all that fifty ship and even. 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:00.920 Oh yeah that's oh yeah, fifty cents. 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:02.800 It's crazy. So yeah, because for people who don't know, 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:04.760 okay player was, it was kind of like the I 0:10:04.800 --> 0:10:07.080 would say, like the most important hip hop site for 0:10:07.120 --> 0:10:08.880 like a decade, because like I feel like when I 0:10:08.880 --> 0:10:10.960 was a little kid and we had internet access to school, 0:10:11.600 --> 0:10:12.559 we go to okay Player. 0:10:12.760 --> 0:10:15.079 Mm hmm yeah. I would go to okay Player on 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:16.520 Stone Store. That was it, man. 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:19.040 And then like I even feel like you could. I 0:10:19.080 --> 0:10:21.319 feel like we used to chat with people on okay Player, 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:24.840 like you could chat with other people, which was like 0:10:24.960 --> 0:10:27.360 weird because like I never chatted with nobody, but you 0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:31.800 could go in there and talk with motherfuckers about like whatever. Yeah, 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:32.920 that was the roots site. 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:34.320 Right, yeah, that was the roots. 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:37.920 Yeah yeah, damn, that's crazy because I'm trying to think. 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:41.240 So O seven was like I feel like the blogg 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:43.760 error really started to crack and like eight on nine, 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:48.320 huh because O seven was still pretty early, like you said, 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:52.040 that was more like more message boards, like you know, 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:54.920 still hand to hand mixtapes and shit like that, and 0:10:55.200 --> 0:11:00.360 like people were had like bear share and like what LimeWire. 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:04.360 Yeah yeah, and all that Twitter and ig started cracking 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:05.920 around eight on nine too. 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:08.280 For sure, yeah, oh nine for Twitter, Yeah yeah, no, 0:11:08.360 --> 0:11:10.679 it was definitely uh, it was definitely a time. But 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:13.480 fast forward now, Like for you guys, you guys have 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:16.600 very few people can say they have like a classic 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:18.800 body of work. You guys have a classic body of 0:11:18.840 --> 0:11:22.000 work that I feel like, you know, if we look 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:24.400 at the way that Illmatic has been like repackaged and 0:11:24.840 --> 0:11:28.920 put out every time, it's like a university timestamp. 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:29.480 U huh. 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:32.440 I thought it was dope that you guys put out 0:11:32.480 --> 0:11:35.080 like new hard copies and tapes and new merch for 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:38.680 the album. Oh yeah, for you guys, like, how has 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:42.160 the business change being like an underground quote unquote hip 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:44.920 hop artist in twenty twenty four as opposed to seven? 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:50.680 You know, the streaming game is what changed everything. That's 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:53.200 the biggest change, just the streaming, you know what I mean. 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:56.960 It's like, uh, you you you learn all these tools 0:11:56.960 --> 0:11:58.880 to like sell your merch, you know what I'm saying, 0:11:58.920 --> 0:12:01.320 and all of a sudden, your music is just being 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:04.079 you know what I mean, right almost for free ten 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:04.920 dollars a month. 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:07.520 Because you're really not making much money off of streams. 0:12:08.200 --> 0:12:09.800 For people who don't know, like a million streams is 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:12.280 like thirty eight hundred dollars on Spotify yep. So it's 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:16.120 like you got to kind of do everything else around 0:12:16.200 --> 0:12:18.080 the music. The music is kind of like the commercial 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:21.800 for the shirt or the hoodeah or real the vinyl 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:23.120 exactly exactly. 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:25.160 The music is starting to play the backdrop, you know 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:27.560 what I'm saying. But we try to keep it in 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:29.240 the forefront though, you know what I mean. 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:30.120 That's dope. 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:30.319 Man. 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:33.800 What are you guys most excited about with this new 0:12:33.840 --> 0:12:34.920 album and the fans been loving it? 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:38.160 The fans have been loving it, man, I'm really really 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:40.280 excited to hit the roll with it because of how 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:41.840 much they're loving it, you know what I mean, how 0:12:41.920 --> 0:12:45.400 much impact we're getting, how much like a input we're 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:47.720 getting already from the album. Yeah, I mean, people are 0:12:47.720 --> 0:12:49.360 telling us it's just amazing, bro. 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:52.120 Yeah, it's a dope album. I listened to it last night. 0:12:52.200 --> 0:12:54.640 Great album. Oh good, love my workout, great great body 0:12:54.640 --> 0:12:55.120 of work for. 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:57.880 Sure Ward it up, Ward it up. Yeah. Man, excited 0:12:57.920 --> 0:13:00.520 to rock those joints, you know what I'm saying. Yep, 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:01.000 that's me. 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:02.439 Are you guys putting it tour together? 0:13:03.120 --> 0:13:05.400 Yeah? We were leaving this Friday. 0:13:05.520 --> 0:13:07.560 Oh so how many yeah? Shit, how many dates? 0:13:08.040 --> 0:13:13.880 About like seventeen dates? We're doing a Frisco October four, 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:14.880 San Francisco. 0:13:15.600 --> 0:13:15.920 Nice. 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:20.280 Yeah, then yeah, just going all across the country. You know, 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:23.560 go look up the dates on Dirty Signs, Ohrecords dot 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:26.240 com or just hit the link in our bio XIL. 0:13:26.280 --> 0:13:28.960 I'm curious. You're one of the goats when it comes 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:35.480 to like just working an NPC. How have you, if 0:13:35.520 --> 0:13:38.280 at all, changed, because technolog I feel like with DJ's 0:13:38.280 --> 0:13:40.959 like DJ's got Serrado and then shit just kind of 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:43.240 changed for everybody. And then now we got controllers, where 0:13:43.280 --> 0:13:45.199 before it was like we had a turntables and the 0:13:45.240 --> 0:13:48.400 mixer and now there's just one piece of equipment. Have 0:13:48.600 --> 0:13:51.720 you switched up your process and making beats at all 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:53.920 over the years or is it still just the same. 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:57.440 Well, as far as the live show, I do live NPC, 0:13:57.920 --> 0:14:00.400 you know, no loops or anything, just like live per cushion. 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:01.560 It's fine type shit. 0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:05.000 And I'm still lugging around the heavy ass NPC two 0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:09.160 thousand uh for tours. As far as production, I still 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:13.680 use the NPC two thousand XCEL, but I have started 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:16.079 messing around with a little bit of DOS just to 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:19.120 help me work with live musicians and whatnot. 0:14:19.200 --> 0:14:21.120 I was talking to my dude Bugs the Beasts, who's 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:22.840 a big producers and a lot of stuff for Kanye 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:25.200 and he works exclusively. He used to be an NPC 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:29.200 two thousand. He works exclusively off of the the NPC 0:14:29.320 --> 0:14:30.280 that has the speaker in it. 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:32.560 Yeah, you know, I want to get that. I need 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:32.880 to get that. 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:34.960 He's like, dude, He's like, I take this ship with 0:14:35.040 --> 0:14:38.240 me everywhere. He's like, and I'm making beats on it. 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:40.080 But the best part is it is like I could 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:43.920 plug in in whatever session and everything I have right there. 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:47.240 And it's about, you know, three fourths less the weight 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:48.160 of NPC. 0:14:48.160 --> 0:14:51.520 And I and it's got a battery. Yeah, so you 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:53.520 don't have to have you don't have to have a power. 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:55.280 I'm sleeping. I gotta do it. I gotta Getah. 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:57.400 There's no power outlet, right, so it's like, if it's charged, 0:14:57.400 --> 0:14:58.680 you could make take that bitch anywhere. 0:14:58.880 --> 0:14:59.040 Yeah. 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:02.720 So yeah, no, what what what you said? You do 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:04.400 some of the digital ship, Like what do you what 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:04.960 do you use? 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:07.640 I mess around with Serado. 0:15:07.280 --> 0:15:09.920 Sample samples home. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know a lot 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:13.000 of people love Ableton. Yeah, Ableton looks crazy though. 0:15:13.680 --> 0:15:15.360 Yeah, I've made a couple of beats on that I 0:15:15.400 --> 0:15:16.280 don't you know, I can't. 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:23.120 Yeah, Uh, for you guys, man, who I mean being 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:25.000 your guys's taste and what you guys are into and 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:26.640 kind of what we know you guys to be making. 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:29.400 Is there any artists from the newer generation that you 0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:31.720 guys are fans of that you guys are checking for 0:15:32.120 --> 0:15:33.520 you kind of man? 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:37.000 All the new artists I check them out and they 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:39.280 already got twelve albums out, bro, So I don't know 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:43.760 if they knew or not. I'm thinking like Code of 0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:46.600 the Friend, He's hard, Navy blue, you know what I mean. 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:48.200 The Russell L Russell. 0:15:48.640 --> 0:15:50.880 Russell's got a lot of albums. 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:53.320 Yeah, you know what I'm saying. It has been out 0:15:53.360 --> 0:15:55.240 for a minute. I feel like, you know, I just 0:15:55.240 --> 0:15:57.080 get hip to him and I'm like they new to me. 0:15:57.200 --> 0:15:59.120 But you know, no, he's a new artist. But he's 0:15:59.160 --> 0:16:03.320 also got like yeah, oh yeah, sixty projects or something. 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:06.120 Man, that's going hard bro. 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:08.800 Yeah, I mean you know what's about him is he 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:10.440 does it's very similar to you. Is he'll work with 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:13.200 like a producer, for a whole album, yeah, or an artist. 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:14.680 Yeah, you know, so. 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:16.760 You should you should tap in with the Russell. I 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:17.960 think you guys should have some ship. 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:20.440 Yeah, that'd be do I'm down, Yeah, that'd be hard. 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:21.760 Is there anybody you want to work with us, like 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:26.320 Younger that you kind of checking for? Yeah? 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:31.960 Yeah, Huey brissh Nana, who's on our album. 0:16:31.760 --> 0:16:35.080 Not a dope, who's dope as dope? 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:36.720 Hell yeah? 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:39.600 And uh, the cat Mugs worked with its crazy too. 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:41.520 Oh Ross Fresco Ros Fresco. 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:45.880 Yeah, the Mugs been on his ship man just quietly 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:46.600 just putting. 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:49.320 Out he he's low Keith to got man Like, is 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:50.600 this longevity in the game? 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:53.240 And I just ran into Mayhem Lorent at the fucking 0:16:53.320 --> 0:16:55.800 Rouse by my house, which is right by Mugs studio 0:16:55.920 --> 0:16:58.880 in Burbank. How's the funk are you doing? Is I'm 0:16:58.880 --> 0:16:59.880 working on album? Bugs? 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:04.439 Oh yeah, yeah, that's my idol. 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:06.800 I'm curious for you. 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:07.200 Blue. 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:11.760 Like the Freshman covers always like a weird thing because 0:17:11.760 --> 0:17:15.720 it kind of sets up these like expectations for people commercially, 0:17:16.600 --> 0:17:18.480 did you feel like there was like a gift in 0:17:18.520 --> 0:17:21.680 a curse to kind of like being on that cover 0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:22.240 at that time. 0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:24.239 Yeah, nah, I was love, you know what I mean. 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:26.280 I always felt I was just mad love. They were 0:17:26.320 --> 0:17:29.240 just showing, you know what I mean, Like I'm underground, 0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:33.000 you know what I'm saying. So I wasn't like trying 0:17:33.000 --> 0:17:35.200