1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:02,279 Speaker 1: Can't. I am six forty. 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobelt Podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: John Cobelt Show. 4 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 2: You don't believe it on me, But every time you 5 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 2: do that, you got to donate one hundred dollars to charity. 6 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 3: No, I say, donate to Deborah Mark charity. 7 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 2: Oh you're oh the handbag charity. It's the handbag charity charity. Yeah, 8 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 2: you'll have those Birken bags in a week. Here I'm 9 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: suggesting help others in need, and you're talking about your greed. 10 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: Great, great, great? 11 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 2: Are we live on something right now? No, you're just 12 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 2: staff and cheesecake photos of Stevens. The whole show is 13 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 2: just devolved, I know. And that was the fastest devolved anyway. 14 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 2: We're on from one till four and then after four 15 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 2: o'clock John Cobelt Show on demand on the iHeart app. 16 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 2: Steve Gregory is here. Today was a big data This 17 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 2: doesn't happen all the time. One of the FBI's most 18 00:00:56,000 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 2: wanted was caught. And he's on the board of directors 19 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 2: for MS thirteen, which is one of the most vicious 20 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 2: gangs that exists in North America. And I didn't know 21 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 2: they had a bord of directors. Yeah, I guess the board. 22 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 2: They're the ones that approve who's going to get murdered, 23 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 2: who gets drubbed out. And it's funny you see in 24 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 2: a board of directors. But anytime you've got a worldwide 25 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 2: organization like this, you have to have some sort of hierarchy. 26 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 2: And let's go back historically. MS thirteen, also known as 27 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 2: Lamara Salvatuca, was born in Hiklisco, El Salvador, and that 28 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 2: was back in the eighties, and then it took foothold 29 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 2: in Los Angeles in the eighties and early nineties, more 30 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 2: in the areas like Westlake, Pico, Union Korea Town, Hollywood, 31 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 2: and it started to grow and just gain popularity. It 32 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 2: was very clear that they needed some sort of an 33 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 2: organizational structure, like every cartel does. Every cartel has a hierarchy. 34 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 2: That's a big business. It is a huge businessing and 35 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 2: it's a very sophisticatedly run business. You mean, when we 36 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 2: always here about the the sort of the thuggery in it, 37 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 2: you know, the contract killings or when the shot collars 38 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: in the Mexican mafia and prisoner, you know, deciding who 39 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 2: gets to live and who gets to die. 40 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: But there is a board of directors. As you mentioned, 41 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: it used. 42 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 2: To be called well, it's currently called the Runfala Nacional, 43 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 2: but it used to be called the Twelve Apostles of 44 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 2: the Devil. 45 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: Oh, that's charming. 46 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I thought for a second, wait, are we 47 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 2: talking about our company or. 48 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: I'm sure they are wonderful citizens? 49 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 2: Twelve Apostles of the Devil, and we're talking about now 50 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 2: forty eight year old Freddie Ivan Andres Parada, also known 51 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 2: by his moniker Lucky to park View. What is it 52 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 2: Lucky to park View sounds like a clunky nick. Parkview 53 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 2: is an area in the that he was from, kind 54 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 2: of like think as a street Lucky of park VIEA yeah, 55 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 2: lucky of parking in the area of La But he surrendered, 56 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 2: and this is something I didn't find out till last night. 57 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 2: He surrendered himself at the border at Sandy Seese report 58 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 2: of jury on March se Now, the initial tip I'd 59 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 2: gotten is he had just been arrested, but there were 60 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 2: no details. He had been indicted in New York for 61 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 2: a series of murders and offering material aid to terrorist 62 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 2: organizations in Central America and the United States. So see, 63 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 2: that's the other thing too, is when MS thirteen aligns 64 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 2: itself with Middle Eastern countries, Yeah, because they're also looking 65 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 2: for revenue streams of revenue, you know, and if they 66 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 2: start aligning themselves with terrorist groups, so they'll contract themselves 67 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 2: out groups to transfer or to transport arms and people, right, 68 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 2: because they have one hell of a transport corridor in motion. 69 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: Now you wouldn't know this, but why would a guy. 70 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 2: Like him approach a normal checkpoint and surrender a port 71 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 2: of entry? 72 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, and surrender? So I mean, I guess I'm. 73 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 2: Talking to I was talking to a federal law enforcement 74 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 2: source about this, and it could be a couple things. 75 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 2: And you know, I'm still looking into because I think 76 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 2: it's fascinating. And you say to yourself, this is not 77 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 2: this is very unusual, Yeah, very unusual. What they're thinking 78 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 2: is it's going to take heat off of the MS 79 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 2: thirteen group. He's basically going to take the fall. And 80 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 2: what that does because he's still going to be he's 81 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 2: going to still remain very powerful in prison, He'll remain 82 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 2: he'll be well protected in prison, not you know, not 83 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 2: presumably by the guards, but by his own people willing 84 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 2: to go to prison, probably for life, for the good 85 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 2: of the organization. Yeah, that's that's the depth of the 86 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 2: loyalty in this group really, So it's not that he's 87 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 2: being forced to do it. Well, we don't know, we 88 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 2: don't know the behind the scenes, but the fact that 89 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 2: he's surrendered is one of two things. Either he's going 90 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 2: to make a deal and rollover, which is highly unlikely 91 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 2: with someone that high in the organization, or he's doing 92 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 2: it to take the heat off of the organization. Wow, 93 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 2: sacrificing himself and that takes the heat off In a 94 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 2: lot of times, it does because the FBI and Homelands 95 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 2: Security because it's both Homeland Security Investigations HSI and FBI 96 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 2: involved in this. But a lot of times when they 97 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 2: do that, they feel like they can get a lot 98 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 2: of intel from this guy, so they feel like they're 99 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 2: gonna be able to work with him. They're going to 100 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 2: get a lot information. So it's like they're taking the 101 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 2: eye off the ball, as it were. That's what's they're thinking. 102 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 2: They're going to take the eye off the bigger ball 103 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 2: and focus on this name. They put more energy into 104 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 2: trying to extract information out of this guy rather than 105 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 2: then take off and go down, you know, and keep 106 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 2: himmering away at the MS thirteen folks. I don't know 107 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 2: that that's going to happen or has happened, but those 108 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 2: are two not a precedent. Those are the two theories 109 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 2: that have been plausible in the past, that have been 110 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 2: floated to me about this particular individual. So he is 111 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 2: accused of green lighting murders of police officers, witnesses, violators 112 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 2: of MS thirteen rules. He's been on the run for 113 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 2: four years, and he was on the FBI's most wanted list. 114 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 2: Which was interesting to me is that he was on 115 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 2: the most wanted list, but his reward for capture was 116 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:01,359 Speaker 2: only ten thousand dollars. 117 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: It's usually a million. 118 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 2: But I think it does that happen when you don't 119 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 2: crack the top ten, like a low round draft choice. Well, 120 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 2: and I think a lot of it too, is that 121 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 2: there's probably so many of these individuals that are on 122 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 2: that list, right, you know. Ten Yeah, I'm gonna go 123 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 2: take on an MS thirteen board of director for ten grand, 124 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 2: But I mean that's that's not I think the top guy, 125 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 2: if not at least the top three of the most 126 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 2: wanted list is Elmentcho and he's with CJNNG. That's the 127 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 2: number one cartel, most active cartel in the world right now, 128 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 2: that's the siadad warez No, it's it's the out of Walajata. 129 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 2: It's the I think the new generation cartel. That's what 130 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 2: that translates to. It's the it's the Spanish acronym for 131 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 2: the new generation cartel and they are Elmentcho because that's 132 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 2: the DEA's got him on the list. He is, he 133 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 2: remains the top target for the FEDS in terms of 134 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 2: cartel criminal organizations, and he's got ties to LA, he's 135 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 2: got ties to the valid. 136 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: So he's going to be shipped to New York. That's 137 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: where they're gonna pross. 138 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's apparently he's already waived his extradition and he's 139 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 2: either he's probably already there now as we speak. 140 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: Nice of him to be so cooperative. 141 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I said, with all of this, it leads 142 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 2: me to believe, based on what I'm being told, is 143 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 2: that he's making some sort of a deal, or will 144 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 2: make some sort of a deal, or he'll lead for 145 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 2: some sort of a deal. 146 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: Well, when do you go to the border. We're working 147 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: on it. 148 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 2: Now we have a lot coming out, but the plan 149 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 2: is to go down there for a few days, and 150 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 2: it's time to revisit because you know, as longtime listeners 151 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 2: of your show know that when I first got here, 152 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 2: that was one of my primary assignments with your show. 153 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, we tried to get you permanently stationed there the 154 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: ti Wana Bureau of Camp. 155 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 2: But yeah, so we are working out the logistics in 156 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 2: the plan and Jacob and I are going to head 157 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 2: down there since Jacob is bilingual and fluent in Spanish, 158 00:07:55,960 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 2: so it's going to be a big help. So forward that, yeah, 159 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 2: I hope, but soon all right, Steve Gregor KFI News, 160 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 2: I'm the surrender of one of the FBI's most wanted 161 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 2: here in southern California, Freddie Ivan Jandres Parada, and he 162 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 2: is one of the board of directors. He's on the 163 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 2: board of directors of MS thirteen. Maris salvatrusha more coming up. 164 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 165 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 4: six forty. 166 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 2: There is a is this guy still on loose, this 167 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 2: convicted killer? Yeah, he's still wandering around. He I heard 168 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 2: before he so he said he escaped from a halfway house, 169 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 2: and I'm thinking, well, is that exactly an escape? 170 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: But he will. 171 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 2: Let's say he walked away from a halfway house in 172 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 2: Santa Anna. And this is a really strange story because 173 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:50,839 Speaker 2: he was convicted of murder. 174 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 3: He killed his mother when he was thirteen. 175 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, his name is Ike Suser. He's still only twenty. 176 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 2: It shows you what our justice system is like. God 177 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 2: kills his mother and he has the chance to walk 178 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 2: away from a halfway house at age twenty. His last 179 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 2: criminal case and the reason he was in the halfway 180 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 2: house was he pleaded guilty to felony vandalism for painting 181 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 2: graffiti under a freeway overpass. But he only got ninety 182 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 2: days in jail in probation and then they let him out. 183 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 2: He was credited with time served. 184 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: That was on March. 185 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 2: It was March twentieth. It was only two days ago, 186 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 2: and he's already he's on the loose. Now, listen to 187 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 2: this murder case. He fatally stabbed his mother in Garden 188 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 2: Grove at the age of thirteen. He stabbed his mother 189 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 2: in their house and she told police before she died 190 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 2: in the hospital that her son was the one who 191 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 2: attacked her. He told investigators that he had been subjected 192 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 2: to verbal and physical abuse from his mom and he 193 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 2: was using a knife in self defense. Well, he showed her, huh, 194 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:06,959 Speaker 2: don't get your kids upset. 195 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 3: Be nice to your children. 196 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 2: They had a mother, They had to fight over a 197 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 2: household chores. I guess he didn't want to do the dishes. 198 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 2: And there was a trial and he testified that he 199 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 2: didn't think he had mortally wounded his mom. She was 200 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 2: terrified at knives. I guess he was just going to 201 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 2: scare her and said he loved his mother and just 202 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 2: wanted her to stop hurting him and for their relationship 203 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 2: to be good. So is that why they gave him 204 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 2: a cheap sentence? You know, he had escaped from a 205 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 2: juvenile detention center in twenty nineteen. He also left a 206 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 2: halfway house early in twenty twenty two. He also attacked 207 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 2: three correctional officers in twenty twenty one. I don't understand 208 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 2: why he hasn't been given a long sentence. Somewhere, and 209 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 2: it was one more thing he did. I can't find it. 210 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 2: But he's he's been nothing. He's been nothing but bad 211 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 2: news the whole time. Did I mentioned Antech three concrete 212 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 2: you know, Yeah you did well. So now he's on 213 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 2: the loose in Santa And what does it take to 214 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 2: put this guy away? 215 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 3: Oh he manufactured a shank in jail. 216 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:25,719 Speaker 1: Oh right, that's what he did. 217 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 2: So we're talking about a half a dozen crimes he 218 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 2: committed just the uh, three escapes, three are correctional officers attacked, 219 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 2: the shank, the murder of his mom. 220 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: That's eight. 221 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 2: He's only twenty. And if you see his photo, he 222 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 2: is mean looking. He looks like a psycho. He is 223 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 2: a psycho. I don't get that. 224 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: Somebody, get Todd Spitzer on the phone. What's going on here? 225 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: Got of me? If you got to be able to 226 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:00,199 Speaker 1: find a way to put put him a way? 227 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 2: So, I don't know, go look up this picture and 228 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 2: if you see this guy spread up and yeah, run 229 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 2: get away. 230 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 1: Uh see what else is going on here today? 231 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean the world, you know, the news 232 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 2: is overwhelmed with Kate Middleton's cancer diagnosis, and I am 233 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 2: not qualified to talk about the royal family. I just 234 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 2: want to make that clear up front, because it seems 235 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,199 Speaker 2: to be an intense interest of some people. Well and 236 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 2: also because I have I have just I mean, I 237 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 2: you know, cancer is terrible things for that's surgery. 238 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 5: She had abdominal surgery in January. She hasn't been seen 239 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 5: or heard from much, and there's been so much speculation. 240 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 5: And then a couple of days ago, maybe it was 241 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 5: even yesterday, Uh, it turned out that her medical records 242 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,719 Speaker 5: had been leaked. And then today she makes the announcement 243 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 5: that she has been diagnosed with cancer. 244 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 2: No, and that's that's that's terrible. But it's just I 245 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 2: just can't. I can't fake interest. I'm not good at that. 246 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 2: There are certain stories I just shouldn't be on the 247 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 2: air for we're all family. Stories are one of them. 248 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 3: You didn't didn't upset you and Princess Diana died? 249 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 4: I was that was. 250 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 2: If I gave you a list of stories I've been 251 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 2: most flabbergasted by in my life, that would be number 252 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 2: one is I totally did not comprehend the worldwide meltdown 253 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 2: over Princess die. I just never I just never thought 254 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,319 Speaker 2: about her. I wasn't invested in her, and it was 255 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 2: it was pretty shocking. And it came a point where 256 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 2: I couldn't take hearing Elton John sing that song one 257 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:43,079 Speaker 2: more time. 258 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 3: I well, I did enjoy that song. 259 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: I have to say, you're already leading me down on 260 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: that path. I know, Okay. 261 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 2: I I don't have any sensitivity about we're all family stuff. 262 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,719 Speaker 2: I don't just I don't understand the whole phenomenon, so 263 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 2: I probably better I should just I don't want to 264 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 2: make that I was just reported out in the news. 265 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 2: I don't want to make people unhappy. Don't wish anything 266 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 2: bad on anyone. Well, I do wish bad on a 267 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 2: lot of people. And I watched The Crown, I know, 268 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 2: which is so surprised. Well, part of the reason was 269 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 2: I wanted, since I've this has been around all my life, 270 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 2: I wanted to try to understand what the fascination is, right, what? 271 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 2: And I watched the whole series, all six seasons. Yeah, 272 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 2: because it was a good show. At the end of it, 273 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 2: I still didn't understand why everybody cared. I kind of 274 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 2: watched it almost like as a as fiction, right, as 275 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 2: just a good story. 276 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 5: People are just interested in that kind of I mean, 277 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 5: it's a fantasy. 278 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 3: You have a queen and you have the king, and 279 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 3: you have the princess and the princes and all the 280 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 3: money and the clothes and the jewelry and the Crown Jewel. 281 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, they got burke and bags those girls. 282 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 3: Oh I'm sure that. Yeah, that's nothing for fifty dollars. 283 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: For a bag. 284 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 2: I mean, come on, you know I was a realistic 285 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 2: young child. I never got much of the fantasy. Very 286 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 2: hard headed. 287 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 3: No you wow, we did not know that. 288 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: Yes, you would not want to not want to be 289 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: my parents? All right? More coming up. 290 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobel's on demand from KFI Am 291 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 4: six forty. 292 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 2: We're on the radio from one until four and then 293 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 2: after four o'clock John cobelt Show on demand on the 294 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 2: iHeart app. Got two rounds of the Voiceline coming up 295 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 2: after two o'clock. And if you have any interest in 296 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 2: the Kate Middleton story, you talk to Deborah. I'll give 297 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 2: you Deborah's cell phone number and she'll talk about it 298 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 2: all afternoon. You know what we got gonna talk about 299 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 2: after two o'clock. Donald Trump may have made three billion 300 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 2: dollars today. You know one thing about once you get wealthy, 301 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 2: it's almost impossible not to add enormous amounts to your wealth. 302 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 2: And there's a lot of tricks. Now I'm not entirely 303 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 2: sure how this worked. And we're going to have Dave 304 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 2: Packer on for ABC News to help explain it. I'd 305 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 2: listened to a lot of business news, fascinated by it 306 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 2: in the stock market and all that, and I understand 307 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 2: all the basics, but this is about Trump taking his 308 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 2: truth Social social media website and the company that owns it. Now, 309 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 2: truth Social does not have a lot of action, It 310 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 2: does not have much revenue, and it doesn't have that 311 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 2: many users. Right most people who care about that stuff 312 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 2: are still on Twitter x elon musk thing. But you know, 313 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 2: he has it, and he uses it to make his pronouncements, 314 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 2: and he merged it with another company I'd never heard of, 315 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 2: and somehow magically it turned into him owning three billion 316 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 2: dollars worth of the shares of this new company. And 317 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 2: I don't know exactly how that's done. Now he can't 318 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,719 Speaker 2: access it for six months, and you know, he supposedly 319 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 2: needs the money within a few days to put up 320 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 2: a bond for that absurd lawsuit in New York. But 321 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 2: I wondered, you know, if he could borrow against it, 322 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 2: for example, and use that as collateral. I don't know, 323 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 2: we're going to talk with Dave Packer, but that he 324 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 2: could invent three billion dollars at a thin air and 325 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 2: not contributing much of real value. That's something else. We'll 326 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 2: do that at two o'clock, all right, So show Heyo 327 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 2: Tani yesterday. Every time there was a show Heyo Tani 328 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 2: story from one outlet or another, the story was somewhat 329 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 2: contradictory to the one previous and also added more weird details. 330 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 2: And I'm not going to get into all those details. 331 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 2: If you care, you've probably heard or read about it 332 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 2: all by now. What I was wondering today whether because 333 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 2: Otani is not part of the investigation. It was a 334 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 2: federal investigation, and it was centered on this bookie, this 335 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 2: character Matthew Bauer at Orange County, and that's who Otani's interpreter, 336 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 2: Musahara was ite Missahara was making bets with And then, 337 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 2: as you heard, there were these wire transfers of a 338 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 2: half a million dollars apiece that went magically from Otani's 339 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 2: account and was sent to Baller and Otani's official statement 340 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 2: through the lawyer is I didn't know anything about it, 341 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 2: and nobody believes that. So if he knew anything about it, 342 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 2: what would be his culpability. Let's assume he was not 343 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 2: placing the bets, but it was the interpreter Musahara. Well, 344 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 2: his culpability would be that he provided money. According to 345 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 2: Nelson Rose, a gambling lass scholar and a professor emeritus 346 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 2: at Whittier College. 347 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: Not related to Pete Rose. 348 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 2: Nelson Rose said, if Otani paid the debt knowing it 349 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 2: was for illegal gambling, there's the potential for fairly serious 350 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:29,479 Speaker 2: federal penalties because there's a federal law that says if 351 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 2: you help an illegal gambling operator collect debts, then you're 352 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 2: in the business of gambling. Even if he was only 353 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 2: helping a friend, he certainly knew he was helping the 354 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 2: bookmaker collect the debt. There's something to keep in mind. 355 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 2: If you loan money to your deadbeat friend who's owes 356 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 2: the bookie, so that would make a miable And then 357 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 2: in the New York Post and this just came over 358 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 2: a little bit ago, a former federal prosecutor is quoted 359 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 2: as saying that what Otani did could fall under the 360 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 2: umbrella of money laundering. If Otani just approved the wire 361 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 2: transfers to cover Missahara's four and a half million dollar debt. 362 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 2: So even if Missahara had access to Atani's account or 363 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 2: Otani's information and filled out the paperwork, or if if 364 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 2: Otani was aware of this in any way, then he's 365 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 2: part of a money laundering scam. Of course, Sotani's lawyers 366 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 2: are claiming that he was the victim of massive theft, 367 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 2: which I don't know what their definition of theft is. 368 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 2: But if you have a bank account worth four and 369 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 2: a half million dollars, how do you not notice all 370 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 2: those deductions? You could go on your phone, you could 371 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 2: call up an app and find out exactly how much 372 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 2: you have. Twenty four hours a day, you certainly get 373 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 2: a statement mail to you or at least your people. 374 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 2: Somebody in the chain of command should have noticed four 375 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 2: and a half billion dollars was missing, that these half 376 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 2: million dollar wire transfers were being deducted. Now, ESPN saw 377 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 2: two of them for a half million each, but that 378 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 2: leaves another three and a half million that had to 379 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 2: be transmitted in some way to Baler's office. According to 380 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 2: Joshua Naftalis, this could get Otani into the world of 381 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 2: money laundering, which is a federal crime. And initially, remember 382 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 2: the initial story was and this was volunteered by Missahara. 383 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 2: He volunteered to be interviewed by ESPN, and Otani's people 384 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 2: arranged the interview, and I did not understand what he 385 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 2: was saying because they were Misihara is making it sound like, oh, 386 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 2: my good friend shohe helped me out during a tough time. 387 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 2: And then I guess somebody woke up in the Otani 388 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 2: camp and said, wait, wait, no, he's implicating Otani and 389 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 2: money laundering and involved in a gambling operation. No, no, no, 390 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 2: it's suddenly abruptly they changed the story. This was after 391 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 2: a ninety minute interview was already taped and ESPN was 392 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 2: out out to publish a print version, and suddenly There'sahara 393 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 2: completely changed the story, and it's just not credible. And 394 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 2: I don't know what got lost in translation, literally, but 395 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 2: did they not know that him giving that interview was 396 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 2: going to implicate Otani in federal crimes? Because ESPN said 397 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 2: they saw bank information including Otani's name on a pair 398 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 2: of half million dollar payments, and it was sent relatively 399 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 2: recently in September and October because California, well, there's thirty 400 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 2: eight states that allow sports gambling, but for some reason, 401 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 2: California is prudish about it. I saw a line that 402 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 2: says voters have not been in favor of this. And 403 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 2: although I remember there being two propositions on the ballot, 404 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,959 Speaker 2: and the Indian Casinos financed one of them, and they 405 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 2: really confused the issue and made it sound like sports 406 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 2: gambling in California would be so horrible and terrible, and 407 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 2: of course most people have no idea what's going on 408 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 2: when they vote, They pay no attention at all, and 409 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 2: they got suitably confused. And somehow we're one of only 410 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 2: twelve states that doesn't allow sports gambling. And considering all 411 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 2: the stuff we do allow, that's really hysterical, isn't it. 412 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 2: I mean, you can go take a crap in the 413 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 2: middle of the street, that's okay, But gambling on a 414 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 2: football game, oh, we can't have that. That's the great society. 415 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 2: We're coming up. 416 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI, A 417 00:23:58,640 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 4: six forty. 418 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: A clip involving Otani. I wanted to play. 419 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 2: Tisha Thompson is the investigative reporter for CNN for ESPN 420 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 2: rather who has been breaking a lot of the news 421 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 2: on Shohe Otani and the gambling. And I'm most interested 422 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 2: in the wire transfer from the bank, and I mentioned 423 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 2: before that in the story they had seen two of 424 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 2: them for half million dollars each, and the total amount 425 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 2: sent to the bookie in Orange County was four and 426 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 2: a half billion. So what about the rest of the money. Well, 427 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 2: listen to this clip, because yeah, there were quite a 428 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,479 Speaker 2: number of wire transfers. So roll cut number seven if 429 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 2: you would. 430 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 6: So what we've been told is that there were a 431 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 6: series of wire transfers. ESPN has seen two of them, 432 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 6: totally a million dollars. We have confirmed with multiple sources 433 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 6: who have knowledge of what's going on, including from Mitzahara himself, 434 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,679 Speaker 6: that it is more than that. That it is eight 435 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 6: to nine wire transfers. Is what Mitsahara told me in 436 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 6: that ninety minute interview. As soon as we got the 437 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 6: statement alleging massive theft, I of course, and are folks 438 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,199 Speaker 6: did in the ESPN investigative units started calling a lot 439 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 6: of people and including I call Mitsahara and I said, 440 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 6: did you lie to me during that interview and he 441 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 6: says yes, And through a series of questions that I 442 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 6: then asked him, he says Otani never knew about the 443 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 6: gaming debts, and that Otani didn't make the payments. The 444 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 6: big question, stephen A, is how did those payments get made. 445 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: It's impossible for me to believe that a guy. 446 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 2: Would have his bank account drained of four and a 447 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 2: half billion dollars and maybe nine different wire transfer payments 448 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 2: and he didn't know, and all the people he pays 449 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 2: to know those things didn't know. I just flat out 450 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:03,959 Speaker 2: don't believe that. I mean, that's that's astonishing. I mean, 451 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 2: I know he's been paid a lot of money, but 452 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 2: four and a half million is still a huge And 453 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 2: by the way, you know, you get those contracts you 454 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 2: signed for one hundred million dollars, you're getting a fraction 455 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 2: of that because fifty percent of it, especially in California 456 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 2: is UH is going to taxes. So now you're down 457 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 2: to fifty million, and then you've got to give ten 458 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 2: percent to your agent, so now you're you're you're down 459 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 2: another ten million. So now you're down to forty million 460 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 2: over the life of the contract minus all the other 461 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 2: people that you employ. And I mean, it's still plenty 462 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 2: of money, but it's not quite as staggering as it sounds. 463 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 2: And now I know, I have a feeling when Otani 464 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 2: signed that Dodger contract, The reason all the money is deferred, 465 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 2: much of it's deferred, is he's going to be in 466 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 2: Japan by time they send him that check, and maybe 467 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 2: the Japanese tax laws are more favorable than the communist 468 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 2: regime that we have here. 469 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,719 Speaker 1: But that's uh, that's just that's unbelievable. 470 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 2: Here's Tisha Thompson with a Here's another clip where she 471 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 2: explains how o' tommy had to go to another interpreter 472 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 2: in the clubhouse when missa Horror started speaking about the 473 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 2: gambling situation. Apparently Otani didn't really understand what was going on. 474 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 2: So play clip cut number six. 475 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 6: So O'tani, who has he's not fluent in English, everyone 476 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 6: says that, but he has enough understanding of English, according 477 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 6: to the sources we talked to yesterday, to start to 478 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 6: say wyat, and he goes after the meeting's over, he 479 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,880 Speaker 6: starts to ask questions, they get a different. 480 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: Interpreter, and through that different interpreter. 481 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 3: This is what these sources. 482 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 6: Close to O'tani who were privy to what happened, told 483 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 6: ESPN that that's when he found out about the money 484 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 6: missing in his account. 485 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 2: So if you're saying that he found out about then 486 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 2: the story changes. Yes, it would indicate he didn't know 487 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 2: what was going on, sure based on that reaction, but 488 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 2: but kind of what what kind of financial people does 489 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 2: he have? 490 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:13,199 Speaker 1: But what. 491 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 2: That is frightening that people could take four and a 492 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 2: half billion dollars from you, That's just unbelievable. There's also 493 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 2: a story about who Matthew Baller is Channel four did something. 494 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 2: He's in San Juan Capistrano, forty eight years old, and 495 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 2: his house was rated uh search warrant. They took his computers, 496 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 2: his phones, other electronic devices and told them he was 497 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 2: the target of a federal investigation. So uh, here is 498 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 2: so the interpreters that is being investigated, Matthew Baller and 499 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 2: atani Is and uh they've all that they're all part 500 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 2: of the investigation, and who knows what they're going to find. 501 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 2: There's ever been a case that I've seen when a 502 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 2: story comes out where it constantly changes, where it's all 503 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 2: muddled up, where people start tap dancing and spinning and bsing, 504 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 2: that it always turns out being worse than even the 505 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 2: original headline is. There's a reason everybody's acting squirrely. It's 506 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 2: not hard to hold a press conference and just tell 507 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 2: the truth, Just say what really is happening unless you're 508 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 2: afraid that you're going to end up in prison by 509 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 2: telling the truth. So Otani is representatives. If it was 510 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 2: a clean story and he's completely innocent, then it's really 511 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 2: easy to hold a press conference and say, hey, here's 512 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 2: what happened, and I'll answer any question because nothing I 513 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 2: say can get me into trouble. Are we come back? 514 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 2: How did Donald Trump? Now you know it needs five 515 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 2: hundred was it? No, it's four hundred and fifty million 516 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 2: dollars right to pay that bond to fight that ridiculous 517 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 2: financial case in or suddenly today he makes three billion 518 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 2: dollars on some sort of strange merger public stock offering 519 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 2: involving truth Social, his social media company. 520 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 1: How that happen? More? Coming up? 521 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 2: Hey, you've been listening to The John Cobalt Show podcast. 522 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 2: You can always hear the show live on KFI AM 523 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 2: six forty from one to four pm every Monday through Friday, 524 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 2: and of course anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.