1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. All right, second hour, Clay and Buck 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: kicks off. Now, we told you yesterday. 4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 2: About the news. 5 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: Breaking of OJ Simpson's death. Saw this morning he had people, 6 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: including medical staff, signing non disclosure agreements in his final days. 7 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: Did you see that, Clay? That's the reporting end. Now 8 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:33,639 Speaker 1: have you ever heard of that before? I haven't heard 9 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: of someone having somebody sign in NDA in the last 10 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: days before they die. I think that's very curious. You 11 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: don't find I've never heard of that happening. Well, I 12 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: mean never heard. 13 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 3: Of it happening. Either kind of thing that you might think. 14 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: I don't know, if you were worried, you might make 15 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: some kind of a last minute confession or something you 16 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: wouldn't want anyone to hear or to get out there 17 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: more broadly than what you say to your family. I 18 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: don't know, and I guess we'll never know. But NDA's 19 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: signed by Steph. Do you imagine asking the nurse? I mean, 20 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 1: you've got days to live, you know that, Like I 21 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 1: need you to sign this NDA, what to come visit. 22 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: It's very strange, buddy, you got you got no time 23 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: left like you want it, you want a non You're 24 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: gonna take her to court next year. 25 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 3: Good luck with that anyway. 26 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: Very weird from uh from you know if the Simpson camp, 27 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: although I think it raises you know, why was he 28 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: so worried he was going to say something at the 29 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: end and the estate and you know, any money that 30 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 1: would be left anyway, The White House offered condolences. We 31 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: didn't get to talk about this yesterday. That was real, right, 32 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: that wasn't Oh yeah, that was one hundred percent real. 33 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: They offered condolences to Ojay's family, Karie Jean Pierre did 34 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: from the White House press briefing. 35 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 3: It's I think about that. 36 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: Think about that for a moment, you know, condolences to 37 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: OJ's family because the passing of what this American icon? Uh, 38 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: someone explain to me, what are they going to fill 39 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: in the blank with there? Okay, legendary athlete, actor and 40 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: millionaire O J. Simpson's murder trial lost him the American dream. 41 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 1: That was a headline from the Associated Press. 42 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 3: They're really going to pretend like he's the OJ's the victim. 43 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 3: This is what the media. 44 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: You know what, Clay, I gotta give you credit yesterday 45 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: you were saying. If he had done this today, there 46 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: would be an even more there'd be a louder chorus. 47 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 3: Of it's fine, it's not him. 48 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: Even if he did it, that's okay because you know, 49 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: racism or whatever. 50 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 3: I think you're right, and I think. 51 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: That the responses that we have seen from people, the 52 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: way this is covered goes directly to that. So I 53 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: see it here. Oh and then this one Clay made 54 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: me think of you. The Heisman Association. I just I'm 55 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: baffled by how bad these companies are and these organizations are. Yes, 56 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 1: the Heisman Trophy Trust mourns the passing of nineteen sixty 57 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:07,679 Speaker 1: eight Heisman Trophy winner OJ Simpson. 58 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 2: We extend our sympathy to his family. 59 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 1: I think the right thing for the Heisman Association or 60 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: what a Heisman Trophy Trust to say when OJ dies 61 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: is nothing. 62 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 2: I don't think the. 63 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: Bills or Southern cow put out a statement when OJ died. 64 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: The Bills were the team that is most known for 65 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: OJ Simpson's playing career in the NFL Southern col obviously, 66 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: and you guys can correct me if I'm wrong on this. 67 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: But the thing that's crazy about all this coverage the 68 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: new York Times had to adjust its obituary, The AP 69 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: had to adjust its obituary. The La Times had to 70 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: adjust its obituary. The Heisman Trust, as you just pointed out, 71 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: they won't let Reggie Bush have his Heisman Trophy because 72 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: his family allegedly got improper benefits. 73 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 2: But OJ committed double murder and kept. 74 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: His I My thing on this is it wasn't crazy 75 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: to think that OJ might die. He was seventy six, 76 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: so they had abundant amounts of time to write these 77 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: obituaries and be prepared for something like OJ dying. If 78 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: people out there who don't really have never really thought 79 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: about it, I understand I'd never really give it much thought. 80 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: If you're supremely famous, Uh well, let's say you are 81 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: Bill Clinton, let's former president. They have your entire obituary 82 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,799 Speaker 1: already written, so if you die, they have it ready. 83 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: They have staff that are responsible for writing famous people obituaries. 84 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 2: Now. Sometimes Kobe Bryant dies. 85 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: In a totally unexpected relative prepared he wasn't in his 86 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: seventies and dying of cancer. 87 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 3: Clay. It was a reminder yesterday. 88 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: If you are i'd say roughly you know, forty and 89 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: up in terms of age, so really right around my 90 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: age and your age, and then going all the way up. 91 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: OJ is one of the most recognizable Americans on the planet. 92 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, like his name, his name recognition, I 93 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: mean he is one of the infamous is the correct term. 94 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: But he's one of the most famous slash infamous people 95 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 1: of our entire generation because of that trial. You said yesterday, 96 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: one hundred million people watch the verdict, which again that's 97 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: like a super Bowl, a super Bowl game. It's when 98 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: the country had a much smaller population. But the lessons 99 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: we are supposed to take, even at this point, I 100 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: would have thought, maybe, obviously this is a mistake. With 101 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: more time, with more context, with more understanding, there would 102 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: be greater clarity about what a total atrocity of the 103 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: justice system it was that OJ Simpson was not found 104 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: guilty of double murder. But no, Actually, with the passage 105 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,799 Speaker 1: of time, people have gotten more creative with conspiracy theories. 106 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: They've gotten more overt about some of the the racial 107 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: component of why a not guilty verdict, even though we 108 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: all think he did the actual murders, is somehow the 109 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: acceptable or the preferred outcome. This, I mean, we could 110 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: just go through some of these plays. So yesterday CNN 111 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: Stephanie Elam was reporting on OJ Simpson's death. Here's how 112 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: this is a CNN reporter. Here's how she talked about 113 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: a play three. 114 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 4: And it's also just worth noting how much was impacted 115 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 4: by this trial as so many things happened, we saw 116 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 4: policing changing here in the city. And it's also worth 117 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 4: noting because of that unrest, that racial unrest in the nineties, 118 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 4: that is why so many people who may not have 119 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 4: been invested in OJ Simpson were just happy to see 120 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 4: that someone who was rich and famous and black could 121 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 4: get away with what other people did in the system 122 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 4: as well too. 123 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sorry. That last part was the real moment 124 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 3: for me, Klay. 125 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 2: She was so close to say and murder. She was 126 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 2: so close to say that he did get away with 127 00:06:57,920 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 2: She was about. 128 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: To say get away with murder because we all know. 129 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: But also who in the system is getting away with 130 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 1: double murder? No, find me the person who cut off 131 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: two people's heads and had blood everywhere, and you know, 132 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: had a history of abuse to one of the people 133 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: and had the motive and fled police. 134 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 3: I mean the whole thing. 135 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: Find me one person that everybody thought was that guilty 136 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: and they just got off? Because is there anybody who 137 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: in living memory who's white, privileged got them off for 138 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: a double homicide where they cut people's heads off. 139 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 3: I'm not aware of this. 140 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: It's a good question. Getting away with double murder is 141 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: incredibly rare. 142 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 2: It makes it sound like it's like a tax charge. 143 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 3: I know, Jay got. 144 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: Look, I'll be honest with you, and people get mad 145 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: at me. Why are we talking about, like how much 146 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: you like Wesley Snipes. 147 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 3: I don't know. 148 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 2: I'm a big Wesley Snipes fan. I celebrate his movies. 149 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: You know, Wesley got caught up on a little tax thing, 150 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: and there's a part of me that's like, you know, 151 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: Wesley who hasn't made a little mistake there, you know 152 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: what I mean? 153 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 3: Like, this wasn't taxes. 154 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 2: It was a grisly double murder. 155 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: And just you know, to suggest he got more time 156 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: than us, you know, we didn't talk about this yesterday. Yeah, 157 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: Wesley Snip's got way more time. 158 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 2: You know. 159 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: Ojay got custody of Nicole Brown Simpson's kids after this. 160 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: I know, I don't know that hardly And can you 161 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: imagine if your son in law murdered your daughter and 162 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: then got sole custody of your grandkids. Because that's what 163 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: happened to Nicole Brown Simpson's parents. Think about how crazy that. 164 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: I can't believe that more people have not talked about this. 165 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: He got custody, sole custody of their two children after 166 00:08:53,360 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: he murdered their mother. Imagine what those kids, Imagine what 167 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: their parents, the parents of Nicole Brown Simpson went through. 168 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: It's not only that he didn't go to jail for 169 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: the double murder. He raised two kids whose mom he murdered. 170 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 1: I just I can't believe that's not a bigger part 171 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: of this story. Listen to this too, This other cutbuck this, 172 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: this woman went on what is her name for cut 173 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: forward guys, let me know as Ashley Allison. Ashley Allison 174 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,199 Speaker 1: goes on and says, oh, I see it here. Sorry 175 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: that the black community feels connected to OJ Simpson because 176 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: he killed white people. 177 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 2: Listen to this. This was on CNN yesterday. 178 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 5: It's not like OJ Simpson was the leader of the 179 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 5: civil rights movement of his error. You know, he wasn't 180 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 5: a social justice leader, but he represented something for the 181 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:53,439 Speaker 5: black community in that moment in that trial, particularly because 182 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 5: there were two white people who have been killed, and 183 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 5: the history around how black people have been persecuted during 184 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 5: there were just so many layers. Until this country is 185 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 5: ready to actually have. 186 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 2: And it's a crazy conversation about. 187 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 5: The racial dynamics from our origin story till today. We 188 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 5: will always have moments like O. J. Simpson that manifests 189 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 5: and our country will always be divided if we don't 190 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 5: actually deal with the issue of race. 191 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 1: No, if people don't act like childish imbeciles and believe 192 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: that the law is the law and that we actually 193 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: hold people individually accountable for their actions, we will not 194 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: have moments where people get away with double murder because 195 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: of some narrative around it. 196 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 2: O J. 197 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 3: Simpson was a super rich, famous guy living. 198 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: In mansions in Brentwood, like this idea that he somehow 199 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: is tied to the oppression of slavery and that that 200 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: I mean, you heard what she said, Clay. 201 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,079 Speaker 3: This is insane, Justine. 202 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 1: The insanity of the nineties is all coming back out 203 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: of these these people that are talking about this on TV. 204 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:01,199 Speaker 2: I think it's worse. 205 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean again, I think people are more 206 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: explicitly racist today than they were in nineteen ninety five. 207 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: I would just want to I want to ask this 208 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: question again if if there is some justification because of 209 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: the legacy. Let's just take what was said there on CNN, 210 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,719 Speaker 1: you know, big, major cable well you know, not a 211 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: lot of viewers, but major cable news, global news brand. 212 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: If it's about the legacy of slavery, how many how 213 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 1: many white people can have their throats slit by a 214 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: celebrity who you know who is black and then say, well, 215 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: this is because of oppression. I just want to know, like, 216 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: what's the number? 217 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 3: Are we sure the two is the number? How many more? 218 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 1: But just imagine if somebody had gone on to CNN 219 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: and said, after a white person kills a black person 220 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: they really felt commit connected to the black to the 221 00:11:55,840 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 1: white community because they killed two black people, that would 222 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: be immediate grounds for that person to never air again. 223 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 2: It would be a prime story. Everybody be talking about it. 224 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: This person, Ashley Allison, said the black community was connected 225 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: to OJ because he killed two white people, and they 226 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: just aired it on CNN. Nobody stopped her, Nobody like said, hey, 227 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: can we just kind of get a point of clarity here. 228 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: You're not saying that black people appreciated the fact that 229 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: OJ killed two white people and that makes him more. 230 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:25,959 Speaker 2: Likable in your community. 231 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: Right, No white said that on CNN and by the way, 232 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: we've got more we need to play more crazy that 233 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: came out. I think it would be worse if OJ 234 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: happened today. I really do, because I think more people 235 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: would explicitly say he shouldn't be convicted. 236 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 2: Because I think there'd be white people arguing this today. Buck, 237 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 2: I think. 238 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: There'd be a lot of white wope people out there saying, 239 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: you know what, black people should kill us because of 240 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 1: what happened with slavery. I don't think there should be 241 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: any consequences. That's basically what white DA's are saying now, right, 242 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: White no leftists are are more excited and want to 243 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: go further in the destruction of him America than any 244 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: other person in America. I mean, the white leftists just 245 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: want to bring the whole thing crumbling down. I mean 246 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 1: that's really their attitude. 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We're talking 278 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: about some of the craziness that was on the air yesterday. 279 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: Michael Eric Dyson said, the greatest tragedy was not did 280 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: you see this, Buck? 281 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 2: Was not the murder victims. 282 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: It was actually the accumulated in dignities of racism in America. 283 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 7: Listen, it is true that it was tragic, evil, and 284 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 7: an unforgivable assault upon two. 285 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 3: Human beings who lost their lives. 286 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 7: But to say that was the greatest tragedy in light 287 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 7: of the accumulated indignity's murders, denials of opportunity, failure to 288 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 7: give just due to African American people in the court system, that, 289 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 7: my friend, is a weighted tragedy that we cannot merely 290 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 7: dismiss what has continued to happen to African American people 291 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 7: before that crime and after that crime. Our testimony to 292 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 7: the deeply entrenched systemic inequities that continue to flagrantly deny 293 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 7: opportunity for African American people, and we've lost so many 294 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 7: lives as a result of that, and we've got to 295 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 7: weigh those on the scale. 296 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 3: Total nonsequitor total. 297 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: Just this is just delusional, nonsense. This is gibberish. And 298 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: he's not the only one, but so many of them 299 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: speaking absolute garbage about that. 300 00:15:58,080 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 3: What has nothing to do with anything. 301 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: I like, I go stab somebody, and like, you know, 302 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: I'm really upset about what happened, Uh, you know back 303 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: in an ancient Rome. 304 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 3: I mean, this is crazy and it's no bearing on anything. 305 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: That's why though, I think the OJ verdict was a harbinger, 306 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: a prediction, a foretelling of the era that we're in 307 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: right now. What they said then was this is revenge 308 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: for what happened with Rodney King. It was at least 309 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: tied to something that occurred in recent history. I'm not 310 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: justifying it. I'm saying that was the argument then and 311 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: now they are just a general outlet for resentment. Now 312 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: now the argument is just America is a racist country, 313 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: so anything that happens to white people is unfortunate, but 314 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: it needs to be seen in the context of the 315 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: legacy of racism that exists in this country. 316 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 2: And that's why I think if OJ happened today, I 317 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 2: think it. 318 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: Would actually be worse than even it happening in ninety 319 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: four to ninety five. I think we've gone backwards in 320 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: race relations since I think I think that, you know, 321 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: the more I've thought about it, the more I think 322 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: that you're correct, and you're spot on with that. I 323 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: would just say, as somebody who has spent a lot 324 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: of time studying police states and totalitarian societies, they all 325 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: have a justification for why they can throw you into 326 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 1: a cell and torture you and murder you. There's always 327 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 1: a justification. They don't just do these things. There's always 328 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 1: some oh, and it's usually because of the past or 329 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 1: because of the future, and they ignore the individual and 330 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: his or her rights in the present. This is a 331 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: pathway to hell, and I really mean that what they 332 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: are arguing for, you've got to murder people sometimes because 333 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: of racism in the past, and people need to be 334 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: able to get away with it. That is a pathway 335 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: to hell. And I am shocked at how many idiots 336 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 1: are making this argument still. But I shouldn't be shocked. 337 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: I suppose that's where we are. 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Welcome back into Clay and back. 360 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: We'll talk about what's gone on with the Faiza renewal 361 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 1: in the house here upon Capitol Hill. Some things going 362 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: down and Unford fortunately your privacy rights going down or 363 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: at least not getting any better. We shall discuss that. 364 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: But we got a caller we wanted to bring this 365 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: to your attention. Lorraine in Utah, worked for the LAPD. Lorraine, 366 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: what's going on? 367 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 8: Well, I just wanted to say that yesterday you asked 368 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 8: Clay if OJ would have ever confessed on his deathbed. 369 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 8: But you know OJ confessed many times. When ALPD arrested 370 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 8: him for hitting Nicole very badly, he confessed. He confessed 371 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 8: all the time. He always said he was on drugs. 372 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 8: He was on cocaine. It's tempered at the best of them. 373 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 8: There was nothing, no racial component whatsoever. When he got 374 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 8: arrested right after the Bronco chase, Swatt was chasing him. 375 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 8: As he got out of the car with his beard 376 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 8: on and all his thousands of dollars in cash, he 377 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 8: started crying, I don't know why. 378 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 9: I did it, I went crazy. 379 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 8: I went crazy, but a spontaneous statement that DA's office 380 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 8: didn't want to use it Johnny Cochrane, who the prosecution 381 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 8: underestimated they didn't want to use a spontaneous statement because 382 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 8: they said it was he said it because he was 383 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 8: being chased. So I'm not here to talk about racial things. 384 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 8: But you know what, there is no doubt in anyone's 385 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 8: mind that OJ Simpson did it. 386 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, Lorraine, I agree you calling in and telling us 387 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: that story. By the way, there's also and again I 388 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: encourage a lot of you out there. You mentioned Buck. 389 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 1: If you're forty or older, you probably have a pretty 390 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: good recollection of OJ. I would I would think that 391 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: OJ might be the most disliked person in America for 392 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: any one forty and over in terms of overall times 393 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 1: on Here are apparently some people over at CNN they're 394 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: still wishing they could give him high fives. But if 395 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: you're under forty, or maybe you got a kid or 396 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: a grandkid who has seen this story and seen this coverage, 397 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 1: have them read the people versus OJ Simpson. There's a 398 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: big part in their buck where and Lorraine, you may 399 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: remember this when they initially arrested OJ. 400 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 2: He was ready to confess. 401 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 1: And they gave him way more favorable treatment because of 402 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 1: his celebrity stature. They didn't do a typical interrogation. And 403 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: I know there are people out there listening in the 404 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: labed probably who are reliving this because basically, thirty years 405 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: ago this murder happened. Interestingly enough, almost to the day. 406 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 1: OJ was forty six when this happened. He dies at 407 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: seventy six. It was thirty years ago, almost to the day, 408 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 1: I think, getting close, and they could have gotten him 409 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,360 Speaker 1: to confess if they had treated him as they would 410 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 1: a typical defendant. Instead, they gave him celebrity treatment. They 411 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,199 Speaker 1: did not pursue it. He was ready to confess when 412 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: they initially brought him in. Remember there's all sorts of 413 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: crazy details. He hopped a flight to Chicago to try 414 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: to have an alibi that he couldn't. 415 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 2: Have done it. 416 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: You know, in some of these cases. Thank you for 417 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 1: Colin in Lorraine. It's a very important point you bring up. 418 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: Appreciate it. They could have had OJ on video going 419 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: into detail and confessing, and then they would have fought 420 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: it and said, you know, unpleaded. Let's say they pleaded, 421 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 1: not guilty. Instead it was a coerce confession. But it 422 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: didn't It wouldn't matter. The jury still would have said 423 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 1: he was not guilty. 424 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 2: Right. 425 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 3: That's that's where this is. 426 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: You know this in the Central Park five, who we 427 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: are now supposed to refer to as the exonerated, they're 428 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 1: never exonerated in a in a trial. They were found 429 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 1: guilty at a trial. They have them confessing with adult 430 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: relatives present details they could not have known about the 431 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: crime in Central Park. But even a video confession some 432 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 1: people doesn't. 433 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 3: It doesn't. Actually, that's not enough. Even when you know 434 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 3: things you couldn't know unless you're at the crime scene, 435 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 3: that's not enough. 436 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 2: Buck. 437 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I wonder if a defense of OJ, if 438 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: this was modern era of he went insane because he 439 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: was overwhelmed by the racism that he had felt and 440 00:22:55,680 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: couldn't control himself, that jury might be fine with that. 441 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 3: Clay. 442 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: If you're let's if you're a take this a little further, 443 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 1: let's think about this, because you know, we're to believe 444 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 1: that the system is so unfair and racist. 445 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 3: They had. 446 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 4: R. 447 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: Kelly on video that was in his possession having uh 448 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: sex with I believe a fourteen year old and it 449 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: was on video that he had so he's got child pornography, 450 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 1: sex with an under his girl. 451 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:29,360 Speaker 3: He was found not guilty. 452 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, it couldn't have been more guilty doing something 453 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: that is just like he's so obviously awful and faced. 454 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: You should have gotten decades and decades rest of his 455 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: life in prison. 456 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 3: He was found not guilty. 457 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 2: You know, you can. 458 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: We can go through a bunch of these celebrity cases 459 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 1: where you know, look, I don't know what's gonna happen 460 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 1: with uh with mister Sean Combs known as p Diddy 461 00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: Puff Daddy, you know whatever, not looking good. They did 462 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: raid his homes and his houses, and when you hear 463 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: the allegations, if they're true, the fact that this guy 464 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 1: got away with it as long as he did is appalling. 465 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: What about Michael jacks is so unfair? What what about 466 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,719 Speaker 1: Michael Jackson? I mean, there's pretty strong evidence that Michael 467 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: Jackson engaged in highly inappropriate, I think oftentimes criminal behavior 468 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: with young boys, and they couldn't get him convicted. 469 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 2: There is a element. 470 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: Look, the reality is this, if you are rich, there 471 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: is a big. 472 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 3: Into this conversation. 473 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: I mean there are yeah, there's but just this notion 474 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: that you know, if you are rich and a celebrity, 475 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 1: you are able to get away with a whole lot, 476 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 1: and if you are a rich minority celebrity a lot 477 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: of we can go through these cases. People got away 478 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: with stuff for a long time. It was very I 479 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: mean the r Kelly thing you've got. There were elements 480 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: of the black community and black churches in Chicago that 481 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 1: were rallying around him after the trial. Yeah, no, it's 482 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: it's it's crazy, and you know, it's a wild conversation. 483 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 2: Buck and this I don't know the answer. 484 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: We've debated this before, but I did with Brian Kilmead 485 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 1: a Fox Nation show on OJ yesterday afternoon, and he 486 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: asked the question, I've debated this before, and I'm curious 487 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: what your reaction would be. 488 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 2: What if oj modern day? It's modern day. 489 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: OJ is twenty four, twenty five years old, one of 490 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: the best running backs in the NFL beats a double 491 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: murder charge that everybody thinks he did. Would he get 492 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: to play in the NFL? Oh like, would a team 493 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 1: sign him? Because remember ray Lewis was charged with double 494 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: murder and statue undoubtedly yes. And if you had a 495 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: white quarterback who had, you know, like written a racial 496 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,919 Speaker 1: slur in a group chat in high school and that 497 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: came out, he would not be Do you think that's wrong? 498 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 2: No, it's it's you. 499 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 1: You're you're the standard of behavior. Right now, I've said 500 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: this for a while. Look, Deshaun Watson got accused murder 501 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 1: than a racist. 502 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 3: Absolutely, it's uh. 503 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson got the biggest at the time contract in 504 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: the history of the NFL. Now he wasn't charged criminally, 505 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: he settled these cases civilly. 506 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 7: Uh. 507 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: But my point on all this is that's why I 508 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 1: think it would be worse today because I think when 509 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 1: they did this back in the day, Buck, it. 510 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 3: Was almost like I haven't made like that. 511 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 1: I think you're right, and it and it, but it's 512 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: it's upsetting because it's been so long since we dealted 513 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: this OJ thing that there was this part of the figure. 514 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 1: Well everybody knows that this was insane and this was 515 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: horrible and everything. 516 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 3: No, they don't. 517 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: Actually people still are taking the line they did in 518 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: the nineties. I think it's actually worse in that the 519 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 1: argument that he's justified because of racism is explicit instead 520 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 1: of implicit, right, because at least if you're arguing, hey, 521 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: Rodney King got beaten up and now it's time for 522 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: an la jury to give a black guy a benefit 523 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 1: because they screwed up that case. 524 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 2: I can't get over. That was in the last couple 525 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 2: of years. Now. 526 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 1: It's like, hey, in eighteen forty, your great great, great 527 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: great great grandfather was a slave. So anything you do 528 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four, even if it's criminal, is justified 529 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 1: because of that legacy. For the people that are making 530 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: this and you know that guy who Michael Eric Heist, 531 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: and these people that are saying, oh, there's some tie 532 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 1: to injustice and the legacy of slavery and all this stuff, 533 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: would anyone take it seriously? 534 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 3: If a you know, I. 535 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 1: This cop that was a shot in Memphis, nobody would 536 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: ever accept that his murderer could say, well, yeah, I 537 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 1: mean but you know this is I shot a cop. 538 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: But because of the legacy of slavery, and you know, yeah, 539 00:27:58,760 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: you'd go to prison forever. 540 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 3: Right? Why? 541 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: Why is why are people connecting OJ's double murder of 542 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: two people to a legacy of slavery and racism in 543 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: a way that that wouldn't apply to any criminal justice case. Oh, 544 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: I think You're going to see at some point some 545 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 1: criminal defense attorney is going to try to make that argument, 546 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 1: and it might work depending on the jury. This is 547 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: one of the sounds where I'm glad actually that I 548 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 1: no longer am allowed on CNN. I'm not officially banned 549 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 1: like you, which I'm a little jealous, but I'm like 550 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: technically calm, well, at least the old regime, you know, 551 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 1: Zucker had me banned from the from the building effectively, 552 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: because if I had to go on CNN and argue 553 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: with some of these people who were trying to say 554 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: that the OJ verdict was anything other than I. 555 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 2: Would actually lose my cool. I don't think i'd be 556 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 2: able to keep it. I'd be like Buckley on the 557 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 2: on the debate with when he just yeah. 558 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: I'd flip out like like Buckley in his angriest moment. 559 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I would lose my mind and and probably 560 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: start cursing a lot, just because I don't understand how 561 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: anybody sees this. 562 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 3: For anything other than what it was, and the whole 563 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 3: thing it was so wrong, it was so evil. 564 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: All these commentators like really, you want to sit down 565 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,479 Speaker 1: with uh, you know, Ron Goldman's parents and Nicole Brown's 566 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: family and explain how this was about the legacy of 567 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: racism and slavery in this country. Then not you, they 568 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: almost had their heads chopped off by this maniac. Have 569 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: you heard anybody else even mentioned that they not only 570 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: did he get away, he got the kids. Your daughter 571 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: gets murdered and the man who killed her raises your grandkids. 572 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: I don't even know that there's even a way to contemplate. 573 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: How could you sleep if you are their parents and 574 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: he chopped your daughter's head off and then he gets 575 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: to raise those kids. Well, cloth they clearly were told 576 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: that that that he didn't do it, and I'm sure 577 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: they believe he didn't do it right. But yeah, but 578 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: the parents know that he did it right. The kids' 579 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: brains are warped. I understand how Stockholm syndrome all that 580 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: different stuff, But I'm just talking about it. If you're 581 00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: the grandparents, your daughter has been brutally murd her ex 582 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: husband did it, and then your grandkids that are your lifeline, 583 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: your connection to the daughter that was taken from you, 584 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: are then raised by the man who did it. I 585 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: don't even know how. I cannot even contemplate mentally how 586 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: that would be possible to live knowing that that was 587 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: going on, and think about the danger that you would 588 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: think your grandkids would be under. I just I haven't 589 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: heard anybody talk about that. I just want everybody out 590 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: there to think about that. As awful as it is 591 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: to think about losing a child to a victim of violence, 592 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: imagine if the murderer got to raise the grandkids. That's 593 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: what happened to the Simpson family. So the Nicole Brown 594 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 1: Simpson family. In nineteen ninety four, according to Washington Post poll, 595 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: twenty two percent of black respondents thought that OJ Simpson 596 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: was guilty, only twenty two percent. I think it's higher now, 597 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: so that maybe that's some sign. But I think the 598 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: woke white community would actually be more aggressive arguing that 599 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 1: OJ was justified. That community didn't exist in nineteen ninety 600 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: four or nineteen ninety five. Now it is basically the 601 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: Democrat Party's foundation. I think they'd be saying it's justified. Right, 602 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: It's a frightening, frightening chapter in our history really as 603 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: a country, and the fact that we're looking at it 604 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: once again is it's and maybe in a worse spot 605 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: than we were in nineteen ninety four to ninety five. 606 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 2: That's what a little bit scary. 607 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: We're going to talk about this some in the third 608 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: hour because I have some cautious optimism, but as a nation, 609 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,239 Speaker 1: I'm not sure we're in a better spot than we 610 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: were race relations in ninety four to ninety five. Attack 611 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: on excellence in America's putting our country's future at risk. 612 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: Decisions choices being made in the name of diversity, inclusion, equity, 613 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: all of that as opposed to excellence and achievement. Not 614 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 1: just a single company or single school, but everywhere. Medicine, engineering, science, 615 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: the law, just four areas out there to think about. 616 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: The American Medical Association, for instance, now says medicine's full 617 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: of white supremacy and that it was therefore lowering the 618 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: standards on med school entrance exams. SAME's happening in the 619 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 1: law and other fields. 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The attempt to kill 643 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: FISA and require that there must be a warrant to 644 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 1: spy on American citizens went down tie vote, and so 645 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 1: the amendment has been killed, and Speaker Johnson cast one 646 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: of those votes to make it not required. So again 647 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 1: I'm not expecting much out of Washington, DC. We told 648 00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 1: you to be fair, that this whole argument, Oh, this 649 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 1: speaker is gonna change everything. When you've got, like whatever 650 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: it is, two or three vote majority, you basically can't 651 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: get anything done. 652 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 3: That's ractly booing me. 653 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 1: When I was with you, I remember that prediction in 654 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: South Bend because they said, what do you think about 655 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:14,280 Speaker 1: the new speaker? 656 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 2: And I was like, gonna be the same as the 657 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 2: old speaker. 658 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 1: The booz It's gonna be great. I was like, look, 659 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: I'm just telling you the truth. I've been in this 660 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: game a while. I pay attention, and sure enough, that 661 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,280 Speaker 1: is exactly what happened. There's no difference between the leadership 662 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 1: you were getting from Speaker Johnson and what you were 663 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: getting from Speaker McCarthy before. I'm sorry to be the 664 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:32,799 Speaker 1: one who has to point out the obvious, but we 665 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 1: all know it. This reminds me of coaching, where people 666 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 1: say it's the Jimmy's it ain't the x's and the o's, 667 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 1: it's the Jimmy's and the Joe's. When you only got 668 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 1: a three or four vote majority. This idea that suddenly 669 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 1: you're going to have a revolutionary success in the House 670 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,800 Speaker 1: of Representatives or the Senate for that matter, and you 671 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,839 Speaker 1: don't control the White House is just a you're being 672 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 1: sold to Bill of Goods. Norman, you live outside of Memphis, 673 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: work in Memphis? 674 00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:58,839 Speaker 2: How long you been there? 675 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 10: Since the mid seventies. 676 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 1: How much worse is it in your mind today than 677 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: it was in let's say the eighties or the nineties. 678 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: How unsafe does Memphis feel to you? What needs to happen? 679 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 10: Oh, one thousand percent worse. I work out in the field. 680 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 10: I work for a big box company, and I have 681 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 10: to go into customers' homes to draw up measurements and everything. 682 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 10: We always plan our routes to do the inner city 683 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 10: first and then we go out and do the suburbs. 684 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 10: And the reason why is thugs don't sleep in, don't 685 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 10: get up early. 686 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,880 Speaker 2: Excuse me, bad guys sleep in. 687 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:38,840 Speaker 1: They're not up at nine and ten in the morning 688 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 1: because they're out late the night before. And you want 689 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 1: to do the inner city visits in the morning and 690 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,840 Speaker 1: then the suburbs in the afternoon. I mean, how crazy 691 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 1: is it that you have to make decisions like that 692 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: in order to feel safe. 693 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 10: It's crazy. And what's really bad is we were at 694 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,959 Speaker 10: a tech meeting at headquarters and they were talking about 695 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 10: the routing and I question, why did computer always says 696 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 10: to do the suburbs in the morning in the inner 697 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 10: city in the afternoon, And they said, cause a traffic blow. 698 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 10: I said, you need to do it by crime statistics. 699 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 2: That's smart. Thank you for the call. 700 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I never had thought about that, but it 701 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 1: does make sense if you have to be out and 702 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 1: about in an inner city neighborhood in the morning, the 703 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,399 Speaker 1: gang banging community sleeping in because they. 704 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,479 Speaker 2: Were out late the night before makes total sense. 705 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 1: But I never would have really thought about it in 706 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,839 Speaker 1: the context of having to do home visits like that, 707 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 1: and that you would be going counter to traffic flow 708 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 1: to try to avoid it is kind of crazy to 709 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:33,359 Speaker 1: think about too. 710 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 3: So we have this story in the Wall Street Journal. 711 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,799 Speaker 1: The Clay wanted to get to coming up here about 712 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:45,320 Speaker 1: that Trump may be gaining ground with a very important 713 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 1: voting constituency. 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