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Speaker 2: It is Wednesday, March sixth, twenty twenty four, Season nineteen,
Speaker 2: episode number one fifteen. Welcome to the latest edition of
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Speaker 4: At the start.
Speaker 2: We got our crew back together, Brian and Patrick and Amber.
Speaker 2: And today we're talking free agency. We are a week
Speaker 2: from the opening of free agency. Actually next Monday, is it?
Speaker 2: I think it is. The tamping tampering period begins and
Speaker 2: and by Thursday we will be full fledged into free
Speaker 2: agency and there will be players signing. We'll see what
Speaker 2: this all means for the Dallas Cowboys. But like I said,
Speaker 2: I've said this since the beginning of the off season,
Speaker 2: I will believe that they're going to be aggressive there.
Speaker 2: When I see it, well, we'll see, we will see
Speaker 2: how it's going to play out and it will start
Speaker 2: up next week. Before we get to our talk on
Speaker 2: free agency, though, there were a couple of other housekeeping
Speaker 2: notes that I wanted to go over with you guys,
Speaker 2: the first being Tyron Smith. There are reports out there
Speaker 2: that it doesn't look like he would come back to
Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys, And of course all of that's kind
Speaker 2: of conjecture, because you don't really know if you're not
Speaker 2: in there in the negotiations exactly what's going to happen.
Speaker 2: And certainly a lot of this has to do with
Speaker 2: is what are other teams thinking with regards to Tyron
Speaker 2: Smith once he hits the free agent market. But I
Speaker 2: want to start the conversation by asking you guys, what
Speaker 2: factors do you think could make it less likely that
Speaker 2: he returns to Dallas.
Speaker 4: Money. I think that's the prevailing issue right now.
Speaker 8: I think Tyrron Smith wants to retire a cowboy, and
Speaker 8: obviously the Cowboys want to retain Tyron Smith for twenty
Speaker 8: twenty four. But it just goes to what the market
Speaker 8: might bear out for him when you talk about potential
Speaker 8: suitors like the Chiefs, and I've read reports that the
Speaker 8: Patriots are trying to reach out to them effective next week,
Speaker 8: when legal time perence starts versus what the Cowboys would
Speaker 8: be willing to pay. Now, this isn't to say that
Speaker 8: the Cowboys are low balling him, but I don't know
Speaker 8: that they would you bid against what the Chiefs might offer.
Speaker 8: Just hypothetically speaking, this is Tyren's last chance to get
Speaker 8: what he might view as a big contract before he
Speaker 8: ultimately cause it quits in the NFL. But I think
Speaker 8: that that's really just the crux of where they're apart
Speaker 8: right now. I think that as time goes on, and
Speaker 8: what you said earlier, as far as I'll believe it
Speaker 8: when I see it, this is a similar situation for me,
Speaker 8: because we've all been in this game long enough to
Speaker 8: know that when it comes to negotiations, they can get
Speaker 8: ugly before they get pretty right. So his agent and
Speaker 8: himself they feel a particular way, they have a particular onet.
Speaker 8: The Cowboys they feel a particular way, they have a
Speaker 8: particular want in The hope is that they can land
Speaker 8: in the middle. So is it likely that he returns,
Speaker 8: Maybe not, Is it still possible. Absolutely, So He's going
Speaker 8: to see what you know, the market bears for him
Speaker 8: and go from there.
Speaker 9: Picked a bad time to be a free agent. When
Speaker 9: you look at offensive tackles in the draft, there's nine
Speaker 9: of them in the first two rounds, in the first
Speaker 9: two rounds. And what's gonna happen is team's gonna look
Speaker 9: at this and they're gonna think, Okay, Yeah, Tyron Smith
Speaker 9: has played at a very very high level. Tyron Smith
Speaker 9: has also had seasons where he's played two games, four games,
Speaker 9: three games. You know, he has not played a complete season,
Speaker 9: I believe in since twenty fifteen. So you kind of
Speaker 9: look at that as a possibility going forward. Yeah, are
Speaker 9: you willing to also have a player that now is
Speaker 9: figured out by not practicing he could play better. Are
Speaker 9: you going to be willing to do that? You know
Speaker 9: some coaches aren't. Guys I talked to, I ask him like, listen,
Speaker 9: you know you love Tyron Smith, right?
Speaker 6: Yeah? Do you bother you? Does it bother you that
Speaker 6: he doesn't practice? Yeah?
Speaker 9: It bothers me. He doesn't practice. That's coaching mentality right there.
Speaker 9: So he's going to have to go to a unique situation.
Speaker 9: If he's chasing money, Dallas can't help him, right, If
Speaker 9: he's chasing a ring, we'll see Dallas the last thirty
Speaker 9: years has not chased a ring, you know, or been
Speaker 9: able to get to a point where they can get
Speaker 9: in position to.
Speaker 6: Grab a ring.
Speaker 9: So those are the things that are probably working against
Speaker 9: you there. But if like I say, there's some teams
Speaker 9: that are looking at this, we just got done with
Speaker 9: a combine nine to ten college players tackles, quality, plug
Speaker 9: and play guys. Kind of a bad time to be
Speaker 9: a free agent in this market.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think it doesn't matter how great you are
Speaker 10: if you're not available, and that, like you mentioned Brian,
Speaker 10: that has been a problem most part of his career.
Speaker 10: And I think he's obviously when you talked about what
Speaker 10: he's chasing, I think he's definitely chasing money because he
Speaker 10: is nearing the end of his career. And we saw
Speaker 10: it even last year how important for him to was.
Speaker 10: I don't know how much of a public knowledge this is,
Speaker 10: but we know that he would get paid if he
Speaker 10: was even dressed up and for the uniform. So there
Speaker 10: was a game where he didn't get to play and
Speaker 10: he was in uniform, and that was important to him
Speaker 10: because it means money. We all want money, we all
Speaker 10: need money, and that's just part of it. So I
Speaker 10: think for him, I do see it very very hard
Speaker 10: for him to go into this with the mentality of
Speaker 10: let let me be a team friendly, let me be
Speaker 10: you know, money friendly for the team, and do it
Speaker 10: for the team because I feel like we can get
Speaker 10: to where the end goal is. I don't think that's
Speaker 10: and I'm not trying to speak for himself, but if
Speaker 10: I was him, that would not be my mentality. I
Speaker 10: would look in I would be looking at who can
Speaker 10: pay me most right now?
Speaker 9: Yeah, Tarren Smith, he signed a long term contract. You
Speaker 9: know he was making. He was making well below the
Speaker 9: market value for a long time. He also missed forty
Speaker 9: five games for you exactly.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 9: So the thing that you think about it if you're
Speaker 9: the cowboys, like well, you know he's looking at, well,
Speaker 9: you need to pay me. Well, we paid you when
Speaker 9: you missed over forty games. You know we were paying
Speaker 9: you then too, And so it really was it was
Speaker 9: a two way street here. He played at a very
Speaker 9: high level, played thirteen games very high level last year.
Speaker 9: So now see if he could take the opportunity. But
Speaker 9: you know what Dallas is, they're in a situation right
Speaker 9: now where they have to kind of give it some
Speaker 9: priority to direction they're going to go, and they do
Speaker 9: have options at twenty four, and I think that they're
Speaker 9: clearly looking at those.
Speaker 2: One of the things that's interesting to me is, I
Speaker 2: think you look at last season you say, Okay, maybe
Speaker 2: the Cowboys figured out the magic way to keep him active,
Speaker 2: which keep him healthy, which is not practicing during the weeks.
Speaker 2: Here's my question, though, when you look at the at
Speaker 2: other teams, he would be going into a situation where
Speaker 2: it's a new scheme, he's got new offensive lineman, and
Speaker 2: we hear from coaches all the time offensive line continuity matters.
Speaker 2: How much can you really expect that a new system,
Speaker 2: with new offensive lineman, he's going to be able to
Speaker 2: miss that much practice time and the offensive line still
Speaker 2: be able to be as effective and him still be
Speaker 2: able to be as effective.
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's that's the question that I pose to a
Speaker 9: couple of the head coaches that I know around the
Speaker 9: league that I asked, I, go, does does that make
Speaker 9: it like, Yeah, we want all our guys to practice,
Speaker 9: you know, it's important, and especially with that position. Stephen
Speaker 9: Jones has come on one O five three the fan.
Speaker 9: I've asked him about continuity. They always want continuity. They
Speaker 9: always want the same guys.
Speaker 6: We're living in an era now where we don't play
Speaker 6: with the same five guys every week.
Speaker 4: It seems like on any team.
Speaker 2: It's on any team.
Speaker 6: So yeah, you know him going in and out of
Speaker 6: the lineup.
Speaker 9: Uh, yeah, I don't think it's he He is a
Speaker 9: unique player. You're willing to bend over backwards to get
Speaker 9: him on the field. So some teams are going to
Speaker 9: have to pay him and then they're going to have
Speaker 9: to I'm gonna use the word baby him to get
Speaker 9: him to the games each week. Some teams could do that,
Speaker 9: others probably won't.
Speaker 2: Amber you mentioned the fact that his contract was very
Speaker 2: incentive lateen last year based upon his playing time or
Speaker 2: games that he was active. If you were the one
Speaker 2: making the decision, would you guys be willing to say, Okay,
Speaker 2: I will give you a an exchange forre you giving
Speaker 2: me a short term deal. I will guarantee that one
Speaker 2: year deal, knowing that you know it doesn't matter how
Speaker 2: many games you play, I'm going to guarantee this amount.
Speaker 2: Or do you would you stick with Hey, I gotta
Speaker 2: have some I gotta have some leverage in this, which
Speaker 2: means that when it comes down to how you get paid,
Speaker 2: it has to be based on the amount of games
Speaker 2: that you play.
Speaker 8: When it comes to Tyron Smith, and I can't stress
Speaker 8: enough how much I love Tyron Smith for what he's
Speaker 8: done for this team and what he can still do
Speaker 8: for this team if he is actually going to resign eventually,
Speaker 8: but if you look at his lack of availability over
Speaker 8: the past several years, I'm not fully guaranteeing like you
Speaker 8: have to be able to do for one year, not
Speaker 8: even for one year. I need, I need your money
Speaker 8: tied to the incentives, especially because it goes to what
Speaker 8: Ambro was saying, which is funny that you mentioned that,
Speaker 8: because yesterday Nicki, Mian and I we were having a
Speaker 8: conversation about this and this is something and I brought up,
Speaker 8: which was the Arizona game, as one example of the
Speaker 8: organization being able to look at Tyron and saying.
Speaker 4: Hey, we gave you.
Speaker 8: That was a million dollar check that we cut you,
Speaker 8: and you were on the sidelines with your pads on,
Speaker 8: so we got it. There's got to be some give
Speaker 8: and take here and that to that point, that would
Speaker 8: be a situation where it's like, listen, I understand the
Speaker 8: fully guarantee for the one year deal. It seems like
Speaker 8: splitting the difference. But I would be wildly uncomfortable fully
Speaker 8: guaranteed a full year knowing I'm not going to get
Speaker 8: a full year from you.
Speaker 4: So I'm out on that one.
Speaker 9: Why would Dallas do anything different? It worked fast? Actually
Speaker 9: well it worked.
Speaker 2: The reason I bring it up is because if that
Speaker 2: is a sticking point, which I don't know, I mean,
Speaker 2: got the sticking port for Tyrant where he's like, I'll
Speaker 2: go out somewhere else and they're willing to give me
Speaker 2: more of a guarantee of my money. You're not willing
Speaker 2: to negotiate.
Speaker 9: Out Hello, Hello, I mean I actually found a way
Speaker 9: for him to play thirteen games.
Speaker 6: I figured it out. You throw the carrot out in
Speaker 6: front of him about the incentives and you.
Speaker 9: Don't practice it. That's I figured it out. I unlocked
Speaker 9: Tyron Smith, is what I've done. Why would I want
Speaker 9: to change that?
Speaker 4: Nah?
Speaker 6: Good Luck's been a great player for us for a long.
Speaker 2: Time, and you'll be in the Ring of Honor in
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame. I think he's question that level
Speaker 2: of player.
Speaker 6: No question.
Speaker 9: You know, and you know you have the options. Do
Speaker 9: they want to move Tyler Smith, We'll see. Do they
Speaker 9: want to drive somebody. We'll see. Do they have somebody
Speaker 9: currently on the team, an awesome Richards or somebody like
Speaker 9: that that they really like. We'll see they have options.
Speaker 6: This is not.
Speaker 9: Something that's going to uh, I don't think it it.
Speaker 9: You know, they've got that didn't run the ball worth
Speaker 9: a damn last year with him in the lineup, you
Speaker 9: got to figure something out with that first.
Speaker 8: By the way, Yeah, and also if you're because again,
Speaker 8: let me put it two ways.
Speaker 4: One, I'm a player advocate.
Speaker 8: I want players to get as much money as they
Speaker 8: can go get you back one hundred percent. But the
Speaker 8: question that you're posing is, let's put on the GM
Speaker 8: and the owner head. If I'm the GM and the owner.
Speaker 8: Number one, I'm out on fully guarantee and someone who
Speaker 8: can't who hasn't played a full season in over you know,
Speaker 8: half a decade. Number Two, I don't want to set
Speaker 8: the president. I don't want to set the president because
Speaker 8: that's going to come back sooner or later. Guess what,
Speaker 8: It's almost time to talk to Zech again, right, and
Speaker 8: and it goes so forth and so on. So between
Speaker 8: those two things, No, sir, no way.
Speaker 11: I agree. I'm I'm not guaranteeing it.
Speaker 9: Actually already held out every one time.
Speaker 10: But I'm not guaranteeing anything when it comes to contract
Speaker 10: them with him because he's not guaranteeing me his availability.
Speaker 10: He cannot do that. So if you can't meet that
Speaker 10: expectation for a fact, and again, nothing is you know,
Speaker 10: an anything can happen. But given his history with the
Speaker 10: Cowboys and his career and everything, and I I love
Speaker 10: that they were able to figure out the whole, Hey
Speaker 10: rest him. But what do we talk about so often
Speaker 10: when it comes to the old line consistency the reps,
Speaker 10: the reps out there matters. Even if he is who
Speaker 10: he is and he does not need the reps, you
Speaker 10: still need it as a team altogether.
Speaker 11: You need that.
Speaker 10: I think that is very important. It did work last
Speaker 10: year towards the last month of the year, and we
Speaker 10: saw that how effective he was. But I just I'm
Speaker 10: tired of the and I've been saying this, I've I've
Speaker 10: been wanting to retire Tyring since I got.
Speaker 11: Here, and not because and I love him.
Speaker 10: I love what he brings to the table and everything,
Speaker 10: but one it sucks to see somebody not fully healthy,
Speaker 10: you know, him walking around with those braces, knee braces
Speaker 10: and all that. You want what's best for him, and
Speaker 10: I'm sure he knows what's best for himself too. But
Speaker 10: at the same time, I hate the unknown.
Speaker 11: I hate not.
Speaker 10: Being sure are you gonna be there for me? Are
Speaker 10: you gonna be there available, available for us? So that's
Speaker 10: the part that I That's why I've been in so
Speaker 10: many years, even though he's as great as he is,
Speaker 10: I just hate not knowing whether he's gonna be.
Speaker 9: Wa you should really hate is the fact that somebody
Speaker 9: practiced for him all those weeks and didn't get better.
Speaker 6: That's what you should hate. That somebody didn't step up,
Speaker 6: that they went out there with a doga and and
Speaker 6: all of a sudden we're watching games and go, okay,
Speaker 6: this looks a little.
Speaker 9: Iffy, a little shaky out there. Nobody got better as
Speaker 9: this thing went on when he wasn't practicing. You know,
Speaker 9: that's that's the work you were getting development. Where are
Speaker 9: we on that? Where are we on the evaluation of
Speaker 9: our players? Maybe they they've got to figure that out.
Speaker 2: Maybe what they realize is that they don't have anybody
Speaker 2: that's necessarily there. And as you talked about, that option
Speaker 2: will be on draft day kick it, kick it or
Speaker 2: drafted and guy that you can immediately throw in and
Speaker 2: and get going.
Speaker 6: They can get draft plug and play guys their offensive line.
Speaker 9: They figured out how to take offensive lineman and plug
Speaker 9: and play those.
Speaker 8: Yes, And the thing was, and I know that this
Speaker 8: is the boat that I was on and I'm still on,
Speaker 8: is you re signed Tyrant, but you don't allow that
Speaker 8: to preclude you from taking potentially taking his replacement in
Speaker 8: the first round.
Speaker 6: So that would you kill me? That would kill me.
Speaker 9: And you sat there and didn't play Mozzie Smith the
Speaker 9: whole year to think about that, think about taking another guy,
Speaker 9: especially the first round.
Speaker 8: This guy, this guy's going I think we talked about this.
Speaker 8: This guy's going to play because Tyron's isn't going to
Speaker 8: play the entirety of the year.
Speaker 2: I get it. But if I got a guy in
Speaker 2: the first round, I want him out there.
Speaker 6: Give me a damn center.
Speaker 4: That's the other conversation.
Speaker 8: But that's also why you want to try to get
Speaker 8: Tyrone back, because if you lose Tyron, and let's say
Speaker 8: you part ways with Baddish, now you have two yeah,
Speaker 8: you're you're in trouble. You're in trouble because you can
Speaker 8: you you kind of address them in the draft, but
Speaker 8: you can only dress one in the first round unless you,
Speaker 8: you know, trade back.
Speaker 9: Don't tell you brock hawfla. Oh yeah, they will tell
Speaker 9: you brock Hoffman can play. They think brock Hopp, Now, well,
Speaker 9: we might.
Speaker 6: Not know that.
Speaker 2: I know what we saw a guard gives me hope. Like,
Speaker 2: I think what we saw he didn't make me think
Speaker 2: he can't play.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 9: See, to me, the best I think the best thing
Speaker 9: for them to do, and I don't think they'll do
Speaker 9: it is kick Smith to tackle, put basket guard and draft.
Speaker 9: I think that would be the best way. But they'll
Speaker 9: tell you listen to hey, don't sleep on brock Hoffman here.
Speaker 9: And I'm like, okay, I trust you guys.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know you guys are in the chair. I'm
Speaker 6: just doing radio.
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Speaker 2: some of the positions that are of most need for
Speaker 2: the Cowboys when they as a inner free agency, and
Speaker 2: then get into some names with some guys that may
Speaker 2: be available or that will be available that maybe the
Speaker 2: Cowboys should be looking at well when we come back
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Speaker 2: we're gonna do. U's talk about free agency. Well, what
Speaker 2: I want to start with is I'm gonna have a
Speaker 2: couple ofsition. A few positions here on the defensive side
Speaker 2: of the ball, and I want you guys to rank
Speaker 2: them for me. I want you to rank them. I
Speaker 2: want you to rank them in order. I want you
Speaker 2: to rank them in order areas where they need the
Speaker 2: most upgrades slash reinforcements. Linebacker, defensive tackle, defensive end, and cornerback.
Speaker 9: Linebacker first, linebacker first, and defensive tackle. Then I would
Speaker 9: look at the other positions that you talked to.
Speaker 2: Defensive end, cornerback.
Speaker 9: Yeah, n in cornerback yeah, yeah, that's what I would.
Speaker 8: Go ranked them in so most needed at least linebacker DT.
Speaker 8: I'm torn between edge and corner. I'm gonna go corner
Speaker 8: and then edge because I think you got some depth
Speaker 8: in edge, but you don't know what's going on with
Speaker 8: Gilmore possibly returning or not returning just yet.
Speaker 11: Yeah, that's exactly what I was kind of saying.
Speaker 10: I'm like, no, it's exactly because it makes a huge
Speaker 10: difference whether or not you're telling me if we have
Speaker 10: Gilmore back or if we don't.
Speaker 2: Well, here's the deal. The way you have to assume
Speaker 2: this is free agents are not on your roster because
Speaker 2: as of next week, they will not be on your means,
Speaker 2: so you're gonna have to make a move either to
Speaker 2: get them or to get someone else.
Speaker 4: So no Durrance and no Duante.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so all those guys are gone.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's in corner for me.
Speaker 10: It's what it is, because again you got to remember,
Speaker 10: you still have Trevon coming back from that injury. You
Speaker 10: expect him to be fully recovered, but it's an unknown.
Speaker 10: We don't know how he's actually and we've seen it
Speaker 10: with other guys and I'm sure we'll talk about Michael
Speaker 10: Gallup at some point, but players like that that come
Speaker 10: back from an injury, we don't know how long it
Speaker 10: actually takes them to go back to their norm right.
Speaker 8: And also if free agents aren't on, then that means
Speaker 8: Jordan Lewis is not on right. Yeah, so no Gilmore,
Speaker 8: no Lewis Diggs coming back off of an injury. The
Speaker 8: only definitive from day one, from September ninth, eleven, whatever
Speaker 8: the weekend is, is Deron Bland. And then now you're
Speaker 8: looking at is real, looking at Na Sean, You're looking
Speaker 8: at Eric Scott in the second year.
Speaker 4: Who couldn't you know?
Speaker 2: See, that's exactly why I'm kind of shocked that so
Speaker 2: many of y'all had cornerback last Now it's because you
Speaker 2: basically got one thing you can rely.
Speaker 8: On, corner above d for me, like, that's what I'm saying, edge,
Speaker 8: they have some depth even if you lose Durrance, which
Speaker 8: is a bit you would even.
Speaker 2: Put corner under defensive tackle.
Speaker 8: I think we're having the conversation because Jonathan Jonathan Hankins
Speaker 8: is a free agent, right, so that means he wouldn't
Speaker 8: be on the roster. So Nevill Gallimore, Michael Gallamore is
Speaker 8: not on the roster So that means what you have
Speaker 8: is definitively you have osa Okay, massive question marks around Mazi,
Speaker 8: so you can't even depend on that right now. Is
Speaker 8: trending upward, but that's not a that's not an impact guy.
Speaker 6: There.
Speaker 8: Yeah, no matter how you say, it's DT above corner
Speaker 8: because and that's also when you talk about the value
Speaker 8: of the position as far as impacting games trenches, you.
Speaker 2: Say defensive tackle is is more important than corner.
Speaker 8: If you get the pressure up the middle from your
Speaker 8: defensive tackles and you can stop the run up the middle,
Speaker 8: then it makes it easier on your cornerbacks. But if
Speaker 8: you can't, then it makes it harder on your cornerbacks.
Speaker 8: A great defensive front, especially defensive interior, can make average
Speaker 8: cornerbacks better and good cornerbacks great, but it doesn't always
Speaker 8: work in the opposite direction.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if you don't have good cornerbacks every play,
Speaker 2: you're susceptible to a fifty yards.
Speaker 4: That's fair. But this is the NFL. You're supposed to
Speaker 4: have any cornerbacks, period.
Speaker 2: But right now, but right now, we know we got
Speaker 2: one good cornerback. We know the Cowboys have one cornerback
Speaker 2: that's a good cornerback. But coming back from injury and
Speaker 2: everything else is unknown.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with you're saying.
Speaker 8: Okay, if the question is would I rather be weaker
Speaker 8: at corner or defensive tackle? And of course you never
Speaker 8: want to be weak anywhere, but if I had to
Speaker 8: be weaker at one point than the other, I'd rather
Speaker 8: be a little softer on corner. If I can be
Speaker 8: hell raiser on at that defensive tackle position, If I
Speaker 8: can raise hell on that defensive front, my corners are
Speaker 8: gonna be all right because the windows and make you know,
Speaker 8: good passes from the pocket, they're going to be dwindling
Speaker 8: if they existing, and.
Speaker 11: That's the idea that they try to sell you in
Speaker 11: this I remember I can't remember.
Speaker 10: What drafted was but who they drafted, but I remember
Speaker 10: Steven and Jerry kind of talking about it in the
Speaker 10: draft conference and just saying, well, you know, when you
Speaker 10: stack up the front, which makes sense because that's where
Speaker 10: the play starts. You stack up the front. You got
Speaker 10: talent there that by essence should help everybody else behind them,
Speaker 10: which is a great idea, but I've seen but I've
Speaker 10: seen talent up front and then the secondary struggle in
Speaker 10: the back. So I think right now the only reason
Speaker 10: I put cornerback third in the list would be because
Speaker 10: part of me I feel like, oh, Travlon's gonna be fine.
Speaker 10: We got their own plan, and I feel like even
Speaker 10: they could get Jordan or even gel More back.
Speaker 4: Do you know how the Chiefs defense helped them?
Speaker 8: When Super Bowl Chris Jones in that interior that their
Speaker 8: cornerbacks are doing Yes.
Speaker 4: No, no, I was gonna say the corner franchise the cornerbacks.
Speaker 8: Are doing some workout also argue that Steed, as great
Speaker 8: as he is, he is a penalty guy, hands the
Speaker 8: all of that. So they say he was handing his
Speaker 8: business on some of the islands that he was put on.
Speaker 8: So not to take away from the cornerbacks, but what
Speaker 8: I'm saying is more often than not they were wreaking
Speaker 8: the game up front, and that's what made it easier
Speaker 8: on the back end. So even and I get what
Speaker 8: you're saying, the front office will sell what they sell,
Speaker 8: but at the same time, they haven't always committed to
Speaker 8: what they've been selling. So that's why that's when you
Speaker 8: saw things like don Terry Poe and that didn't work out.
Speaker 8: You're getting these value guy, you know, the bargain bind
Speaker 8: guys who really don't fit the bill. But in my mind,
Speaker 8: essentially speaking, I am always going to build my defense
Speaker 8: from the front to the back, not from the back
Speaker 8: to the front, because I feel like if I can
Speaker 8: impact your quarterback, if I can make them panic, get
Speaker 8: in their personal space, getting their comfort zone, I can
Speaker 8: make them make mistakes, and when they start making mistakes
Speaker 8: and start hurrying, then I'm going to task my cornerbacks
Speaker 8: with making those plays, getting those takeaways, getting those pass breakups.
Speaker 8: But it gets much harder if you say, well, I'm
Speaker 8: just gonna throw some average defensive tackles in there, some
Speaker 8: average edge rushers in there, and I'm going to get
Speaker 8: this all pro lineup of cornerbacks. That's great, you're gonna
Speaker 8: get plays being made on the back end, But more
Speaker 8: often than not, how much time is this quarterback having
Speaker 8: to throw Those guys are going to You can't cover
Speaker 8: NFL receivers for but X amount of time after that
Speaker 8: they're open. Right, So that's that's my thought process. I
Speaker 8: always build front to back, never back to front.
Speaker 9: They gave a premium draft pick to get Eric Scott,
Speaker 9: they did last year of this draft.
Speaker 4: They did.
Speaker 9: Need to figure that out, need to figure out what's
Speaker 9: Shaun Wright still.
Speaker 4: Contract here as well? Contract year.
Speaker 6: It's good year for corners in the straft.
Speaker 9: By the way, too, I think you could find you
Speaker 9: another Deron Bland that's right late that well.
Speaker 6: Through this draft.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think there's there's some quality, quality guys here.
Speaker 9: But yeah, they they've they've they've thrown some they've thrown
Speaker 9: some picks out there to try and handle this. You know,
Speaker 9: we boss man fat second round pick right didn't work out.
Speaker 9: You know, they've tried, so maybe that's something we need
Speaker 9: to look at. Are they misevaluating some of these corners. Obviously,
Speaker 9: they hit on Bland, they got the draft guts smiled
Speaker 9: on him. On Diggs, you know, Jordan lewis a fine player.
Speaker 9: So yeah, they I think that they've got to kind
Speaker 9: of figure these things out. But Eric Scott, you know
Speaker 9: who was in active every single game last year, didn't
Speaker 9: we get on to play special teams or anything. You know,
Speaker 9: need to figure that one out. If not, you're gonna
Speaker 9: have to. You're gonna have to draft some of these guys.
Speaker 9: You're gonna have to. You're gonna probably have to use
Speaker 9: another premium pick to to shore up this thing, especially
Speaker 9: if you move on from Gilmore real quick.
Speaker 2: You mentioned the Chiefs, I knew that it wasn't just need.
Speaker 2: On the opposite side, they got McDuffie McDuffie, they got
Speaker 2: two of the best quarterbacks.
Speaker 4: In the league.
Speaker 2: They got an but.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying the corner's average.
Speaker 8: But you got but but you can understand what I'm
Speaker 8: saying is one hand washes the other. One thing that
Speaker 8: helps those two corners be great is the fact that
Speaker 8: is the fact that they can from and.
Speaker 2: Those cornerbacks I think were in my opinion that was
Speaker 2: a lot of what their defense was able to do.
Speaker 2: And I know your linebacker that you love over there, Bolton, Yeah,
Speaker 2: they got some players can play, but but the cornerbacks.
Speaker 2: The whole point I'm making is I think it's yeah,
Speaker 2: I think you can. You can make that argument that
Speaker 2: upfront that's where it all starts, and I.
Speaker 4: Can get that.
Speaker 2: That was because I was like, I know there's another quarterback,
Speaker 2: there's another corner but defensive tackle. But defensive tackle, when
Speaker 2: you can get pressure up the middle, that certainly can
Speaker 2: affect the other team. But but my I am still
Speaker 2: a big believer in the fact that because last year,
Speaker 2: I think Jonathan Hankins is a good tackle. I don't
Speaker 2: think this defense can can do what they did last year,
Speaker 2: which they weren't great, but they were good. They're pretty good.
Speaker 2: They don't do that without the corners at the head
Speaker 2: specific So I just look at it and I'm like,
Speaker 2: I hear what you're saying, But you got to have
Speaker 2: an exceptional Chris Jones, an exceptional defensive tackle. I don't
Speaker 2: think there are a lot of those that are going
Speaker 2: to be coming in here. And then you say, okay,
Speaker 2: we got we got a cornerback and we're fine.
Speaker 8: Well, you're kind of and granted, the Chris Joneses of
Speaker 8: the world, those talents aren't growing on.
Speaker 4: Trees, see special.
Speaker 8: So let me qualify my statement with you know, with
Speaker 8: that that being said, as a scouting department, it is
Speaker 8: your job to find the next Chris Jones, right, it
Speaker 8: is your job. So then it's just going to the
Speaker 8: archetype of how you want to build your defense. Either
Speaker 8: you want to build it back to front or you
Speaker 8: want to build it front to back. I just prefer
Speaker 8: to build it front to back because I feel like,
Speaker 8: let's say you have you know McDuffie and you have
Speaker 8: Sneed and you have those guys on that end, or
Speaker 8: you have Digs and you have Bland and you have
Speaker 8: these all pro guys.
Speaker 4: That is magnificent. That means you're doing your job scouting wise.
Speaker 8: But that doesn't mean because you have those guys that
Speaker 8: are dominant in the backfield, that you can look at
Speaker 8: the front field and say, and we'll tone it down
Speaker 8: a little bit because those guys they got.
Speaker 2: It by the way they got it. That's true, but
Speaker 2: that's also the reverse is also true. You can't say
Speaker 2: just because I got this guy up front. Just because
Speaker 2: I got Chris Jones, I could just throw whoever out there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're not wrong.
Speaker 8: That's why I keep saying for me, like my way
Speaker 8: of building the defense will be front to back.
Speaker 4: But there are others that Bill.
Speaker 11: Becks Blimmer one.
Speaker 4: Zimmer wants front to back.
Speaker 8: He's a defensive front seven guy, like I mean, he's
Speaker 8: a former defensive backs coach, so he'll help coach those
Speaker 8: guys up in the secondary. But he he features linebackers,
Speaker 8: and he features a lot of a lot of big
Speaker 8: boys on that defensive tackle position. So yeah, he wants
Speaker 8: the defensive front seven to be pretty nasty.
Speaker 2: I think the linebackers area where you see a lot
Speaker 2: of what he does on defense, it is really predicated
Speaker 2: on those those linebackers being extremely athletic and being able
Speaker 2: to go forward and back. I got to be able
Speaker 2: to do both. And that's where I'm wondering, Like what
Speaker 2: the cow was all of us had linebackers number one.
Speaker 2: That's a big area of concern for them this offseason.
Speaker 9: Of how watching safeties play lineback exactly, that's what that's
Speaker 9: what made you think.
Speaker 2: By the way he played. Okay, yeah, it was just something.
Speaker 6: It's it's tough. It's tough for those kids to have
Speaker 6: to play like that. Yeah, really is all right.
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Speaker 2: going to see how these guys ranked that, and then
Speaker 2: we'll throw a few names, see if these guys have
Speaker 2: some interest in a couple of free agents that will
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Speaker 2: We are in the final segment of the break Lafe
Speaker 2: in the SWBC Mortgage Studios at the Star. We'll talk
Speaker 2: a free agency and it's gonna be a uh, it's
Speaker 2: gonna be an interesting thing. There are a lot of
Speaker 2: good players out there. There are a lot of good
Speaker 2: players that are gonna be available every year there are
Speaker 2: and uh, and the funny thing is that, I don't
Speaker 2: know how funny it is for for the Cowboys. There
Speaker 2: are a lot of teams out there that are gonna
Speaker 2: have a lot of money to spend because the salary
Speaker 2: cap went up a significant amount. I think it was
Speaker 2: like thirty million more per team. So so teams that
Speaker 2: have already had money now have even more money. So
Speaker 2: you say, yeah, the Cowboys got that thirty million million,
Speaker 2: but there's other teams that have even more than that.
Speaker 2: So free agency is gonna be wild. You're gonna be
Speaker 2: You're gonna I think you're gonna be seeing some guys
Speaker 2: out there that are really mid level, solid type guys
Speaker 2: are going to be getting big contracts because teams have
Speaker 2: money to spend, and so it's gonna drive the number up.
Speaker 2: And by the way, that's the whole point of revenue sharings,
Speaker 2: that's the whole point of how they have the economic
Speaker 2: model set up, is that the players get paid based
Speaker 2: upon how much the league makes and if the league's
Speaker 2: making more money, players should make more money, and so
Speaker 2: good for the players.
Speaker 11: And end or free agency.
Speaker 2: Who you talking about WII we we.
Speaker 4: When you talk about WI.
Speaker 9: Contracts, show up, some most forty nine ers need to
Speaker 9: show up.
Speaker 2: You can say.
Speaker 9: Of the building, I've learned one thing you could get
Speaker 9: You get ownerships. You can get ownership's attention if somebody
Speaker 9: else really really wants you.
Speaker 2: No doubt I've learned that. And by the way, moving
Speaker 2: around from team to team, ownership has approved that. So yeah,
Speaker 2: if they'll know if somebody wants you. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 2: let's let's talk about the offensive side of the ball.
Speaker 2: We're gonna do the same thing we just did on
Speaker 2: defensive side of the ball. Wants you to rank these
Speaker 2: three positions as far as most needed from a standpoint
Speaker 2: of upgrades and reinforcements. Start offensive tackle, center, and running back.
Speaker 6: Town's not here, not here, Center, tackle, running back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Center, tackle, running back.
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, I agree with that. Well, what's interesting?
Speaker 10: These are all connected like this, they all affect each other.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm interested to know why running back is
Speaker 2: last for everyone whing right now? Literally the top two
Speaker 2: running backs you had on your roster last year are
Speaker 2: not here.
Speaker 11: Yeah, but you agree most of the I feel like.
Speaker 2: Reasons yeah, okay, go one.
Speaker 10: My understanding and my learning from all these years of experience. No,
Speaker 10: Typically running back it's an easier quote unquote easier position
Speaker 10: to replace when you bring someone younger. It is key, however,
Speaker 10: to have a good online those guys that can open
Speaker 10: up those holes for you. Last year, in my opinion,
Speaker 10: running back, the running back position, the running backs themselves,
Speaker 10: I don't think we're fully the issue. Yeah, we saw
Speaker 10: Tony Polers struggle, but at the same time, if we
Speaker 10: go down the list of those guys that were our
Speaker 10: running back we could all agree. I think that they
Speaker 10: were talented players that we've seen them shine at moments
Speaker 10: and sparks. So my belief right now is that if
Speaker 10: you solidified the O line, the offensive line, and get
Speaker 10: a good, solid group there, that will affect one hundred
Speaker 10: percent what your running backs are doing. And to me
Speaker 10: right now, how I see it, you can still bring
Speaker 10: in whatever other running back that it's valuable and still
Speaker 10: be effective on the field, but.
Speaker 2: You still need to get one because the question is, yeah,
Speaker 2: but what's in most need of reinforcements and upgrades.
Speaker 6: Free agency, you can go get your running back.
Speaker 9: This one of the best free agent classes, but you
Speaker 9: got to go do it though, right I gotta go
Speaker 9: do it. And you could also draft too. That's another thing.
Speaker 9: It's not the draft class that was last year at
Speaker 9: running back Brooks from Texas, Benson from Florida State, Brohal
Speaker 9: They've got guys Ray Davis from UH from Kentucky, that
Speaker 9: Blake Corp. They've got guys that you can go get, tough,
Speaker 9: physical downhill runners, Guys that got elusiveness, guys that can catch,
Speaker 9: Guys that could pass block. This running back class, though,
Speaker 9: in free agency, is super super deep, and the one
Speaker 9: thing about people not caring about running backs is they've
Speaker 9: allowed running backs to get to the market. And I
Speaker 9: feel like though that you know, there's going to be
Speaker 9: the game of musical chairs and somebody's not going to
Speaker 9: have a chair, and that's where you have to be ready.
Speaker 9: You have to be ready, and people are going to
Speaker 9: take deals because they don't want to be left without
Speaker 9: a chair. You've got to be willing, though, to jump
Speaker 9: in there and play in the game. That's the problem.
Speaker 9: If you've got a budget, you say I need a three,
Speaker 9: what they'll probably do, my guess, familiarity, coaches, all those things.
Speaker 6: They're going to get.
Speaker 9: Pollered back and they're going to draft a running back.
Speaker 9: That's what I think they're gonna do. I think that's
Speaker 9: how they're going to go back. Sufficient for you, it's
Speaker 9: sufficient for me. That's fine because I do like these
Speaker 9: college running backs. You give me a shot at I
Speaker 9: know Brooks from Tech is coming off.
Speaker 6: A knee injury. He should be okay, catches the.
Speaker 9: Ball well, runs well again coming off an injury. Let's
Speaker 9: carry Yeah, Benson from Florida State, powerful guy, you know
Speaker 9: downhill runners, I talk tough, so yeah, pair him with Now.
Speaker 9: I don't know what you're gonna do with douce Fan.
Speaker 9: I'm sorry, I don't know. He's a shorter guy.
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 9: I don't know how I'm gonna play that one with him.
Speaker 9: I think there's a limited amount of things that you
Speaker 9: can do with him. But I think I'm gonna have
Speaker 9: to look at my first two backs. I've learned that
Speaker 9: I need to have a complimentary back with Pollard correct,
Speaker 9: so I'm gonna try and do that. I'm gonna fix
Speaker 9: this offensive line. If I have to fix the offensive
Speaker 9: line with a tackle and a center or a center
Speaker 9: and a tackle in rounds one and three, I'm gonna
Speaker 9: do that. You know, I'm gonna I'm gonna try my
Speaker 9: best to fix this offensive line and if I could,
Speaker 9: if I could put that second round back in there somewhere,
Speaker 9: I'm sure looking at that possibility as well.
Speaker 4: I don't know who's snapping the football to my quarterback,
Speaker 4: and that's terrifying. That is absolutely terrify. I also don't
Speaker 4: know who's Rock Coffin.
Speaker 6: They'll tell you many Rock Coffin.
Speaker 8: I don't know who's snapping the ball to my quarterback.
Speaker 8: That's terrifying. I don't know who's who's protecting the blind
Speaker 8: side of my quarterback as we have this coming.
Speaker 2: But guess what you got, in my opinion, a top
Speaker 2: ten at least top ten sitting on your roster. But
Speaker 2: until that's why I understand that. But I'm saying, that's
Speaker 2: why I look at this, and I'm like.
Speaker 6: You would, you would. They might, they may not.
Speaker 2: And they may not. But all I'm saying is if
Speaker 2: I'm looking at this, and I'm saying, if push came
Speaker 2: to Sholf and I had to do something the center,
Speaker 2: I gotta do because I don't feel like I got
Speaker 2: enough protection there tackle. I feel like I could say
Speaker 2: I shouldn't.
Speaker 6: Make this work.
Speaker 2: I like what I saw from Bass last year.
Speaker 6: Sure, I like what I saw.
Speaker 2: From from from from Tyler when he played tackle. So
Speaker 2: I don't think those I understand that. What I'm saying
Speaker 2: is all I'm saying is when you start thinking about
Speaker 2: what is needed, I think tackle of these three is
Speaker 2: needed the least because if if it was absolutely necessary
Speaker 2: they out of tackle, that will be a top ten
Speaker 2: at least a top ten tack. I think they one
Speaker 2: disagree with you that that he would be a top
Speaker 2: ten tackle.
Speaker 6: No, that they need a tackle. I mean no, no, no,
Speaker 6: I mean I mean they're they're there.
Speaker 9: I mean you're thinking that you just slide the guy,
Speaker 9: which makes perfect sense, perfect sense. I feel like though,
Speaker 9: when you watch him play inside, you know he holding
Speaker 9: penalties are there and stuff. He's better in that little
Speaker 9: short area though. You put him on the edge, maybe
Speaker 9: you get a little bit more penalties. Maybe he's a
Speaker 9: hell of a player. He's a he's a Pro Bowl
Speaker 9: player out. Potentially he's a Pro Bowl guard too. You
Speaker 9: know you're being logical, you are. They don't see it
Speaker 9: that way. No, I get that, and I'm sorry for
Speaker 9: saying it that way, but it seems logical to me
Speaker 9: kick the guy, put bass in there, and draft a damn.
Speaker 6: Sinner and go to battle.
Speaker 2: And then, by the way, you can also go out
Speaker 2: there and if you want to draft a tackle in
Speaker 2: the second, third, fourth round, whatever. If you're saying it's
Speaker 2: a deep drafting for tackles, don't get me another tackle,
Speaker 2: and then we'll see how it goes. If the guy
Speaker 2: can come in here and play immediately, great, I will
Speaker 2: kick him right back down there. To God, I'll kick
Speaker 2: Tyler right back down in the guard. But I got
Speaker 2: an option for tackle right now. The blind side of
Speaker 2: my quarterback can be protective if I choose to do so.
Speaker 6: You've You've chosen, I've chosen chose.
Speaker 9: The question is we're talking about an organization that we
Speaker 9: work for that sometimes they have not.
Speaker 6: They have told me they could choose to do it.
Speaker 6: They they could, they have not.
Speaker 8: Several times they could have broken that glass in case
Speaker 8: of emergency last season and they and they chose not to.
Speaker 4: So goes back to my heel.
Speaker 8: You don't know who's who's protecting the blind side, So
Speaker 8: that's terrifying as well as far as the running back
Speaker 8: is concerned. I do believe there's a good chance Pollard
Speaker 8: remains in the building. I'm completely found that I'm on
Speaker 8: the record of saying such, but I'm not fine with
Speaker 8: him returning with the plan of him potentially being RB one.
Speaker 8: That does not work for me. I'm right there with
Speaker 8: Brian and several others who have this take. Pollard needs
Speaker 8: the bully guy to complement what he does, so I
Speaker 8: would say, relegate back to what he was and explosive
Speaker 8: RB two. Now keep in mind snap countcler you know
Speaker 8: they vary, So this RB one versus RB two, it's
Speaker 8: not really as hard of a line drawn as it
Speaker 8: used to be. Okay, because even when it was Zeke
Speaker 8: and Tony, actually Tony started some games, so he outrapped
Speaker 8: Zeke in certain games. You played to whatever you need
Speaker 8: to play for on a weekly week basis. But I
Speaker 8: think you go out and you get a bully guy
Speaker 8: to compliment Pollard if you're going to keep Pollard. Now,
Speaker 8: could that be in free agency? Could that be in
Speaker 8: the draft? You know, do either or for me? I
Speaker 8: want to see that attacked up front. Understand completely what
Speaker 8: Brian is saying. There are some really, really good running
Speaker 8: backs that you will be able to get that you
Speaker 8: won't necessarily have to spend a one, you know, a
Speaker 8: first or second round pick on in this particular draft.
Speaker 8: That being said, I don't want to go into the
Speaker 8: draft worrying about that when I know I have bigger
Speaker 8: issues to you know, bigger fish to fry on the
Speaker 8: offensive line, tackle center. I want to go ahead and
Speaker 8: get my definitive compliment for Pollard and free agency. Could
Speaker 8: that be a Derek Henry, Could that be a Sakuon Barkley.
Speaker 8: I mean, the free agency pool is just so flushed
Speaker 8: with Pro Bowl talent, all pro talent that to blow
Speaker 8: right past that because you're saying, well, I can just
Speaker 8: draft a guy, I'm not I'm not.
Speaker 4: I'm not good on that.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this question, and I don't. I
Speaker 2: don't think we're gonna be able to get into all
Speaker 2: these names. I'll say that for you amb next week.
Speaker 2: You went through some of these names with them. But
Speaker 2: I will ask you this question about the running back position,
Speaker 2: because there are so many big names that are going
Speaker 2: to be free agents. Got Sakwon Barkley, you got Josh Jacobs,
Speaker 2: got Derrick Henry, Tony Pollard, Austin Eckler, DeAndre Swift. He's
Speaker 2: a really good running back, very well known and very
Speaker 2: accomplished running backs that will be a part of this
Speaker 2: free agent market. And just again for the record, we
Speaker 2: are over here pontificating. They're currently on their rosters, but
Speaker 2: they will be free agents next week. So I just
Speaker 2: want to make sure everybody's clear on that. Are there
Speaker 2: any names that, yeah, come after me? Are there any
Speaker 2: names so they're going to be free Yeah, they are
Speaker 2: definitely going to be free agents. Are there are there
Speaker 2: any Well? I guess their teams could sign them between
Speaker 2: now and then, but anyway of any of those names,
Speaker 2: are any of those names more attractive to you than
Speaker 2: Tony Pollard? If you're going to get one in free agency,
Speaker 2: and let's say you're gonna take one in the draft,
Speaker 2: is there a name that you like better than Tony
Speaker 2: Pollard as the guy you take in free agency?
Speaker 4: I just I cannot shake this Derrick Henry.
Speaker 8: Nos, that's in my head just because one thing about
Speaker 8: Derrick Henry, and I will give him absolute roses for
Speaker 8: this one. He came out of Alabama, and at the
Speaker 8: time that he came out of Alabama, no Georgia bias here,
Speaker 8: but Alabama running backs to that point. For the most
Speaker 8: part hadn't done well over the course of NFL history.
Speaker 8: Obviously there are exceptions to the rule, but for the
Speaker 8: most part. So I looked at Derrick Henry and I
Speaker 8: was like, yeah, I did great at Bama, and you know,
Speaker 8: but it's another Bama running back. Thought he was a
Speaker 8: big talking yeah, no.
Speaker 4: Big deal, My bad, my bad he is. It is
Speaker 4: something else.
Speaker 8: I don't want to hear anybody talking about, you know,
Speaker 8: how many reps are on his body? Or this dude
Speaker 8: is Adrian Peterson different that type of different where you
Speaker 8: can't quantify the number of reps that is on his
Speaker 8: body versus if you put those same number of reps
Speaker 8: on the Tony Pollard or someone like that. Derrick Henry,
Speaker 8: what he would instantly do to this running game we
Speaker 8: talk about the running game is twofold. Offensive line protection
Speaker 8: and the ability of the running back. Well, hopefully you
Speaker 8: address your offensive line situation, but in the times where
Speaker 8: you have injuries on the offensive line, you have flux,
Speaker 8: you have a merry go round like you had in
Speaker 8: twenty twenty three. Derrick Henry has the talent to make it,
Speaker 8: not make it seem like it's not an issue whatsoever.
Speaker 4: That is why for me he's the premo back. Now.
Speaker 8: Of course Sayquanti do the same, but you availability right?
Speaker 8: Can he remain durable? Has some durability issues? Has Derek? No,
Speaker 8: He just keeps chugging along and putting guys through the planet,
Speaker 8: you know, with his bare hand. So for me, I
Speaker 8: love Tony and I would love to have Tony Beck
Speaker 8: as RB two. But it's not a conversation for me,
Speaker 8: it's it's Derrick Henry.
Speaker 9: Give me Josh Jacobs four years younger. Yep, led the
Speaker 9: league in Russian two years ago at sixteen hundred yards.
Speaker 9: He's tough, he's physical, he's available, more expensive. I'm just
Speaker 9: telling you. You ask me what's running back? You got
Speaker 9: your two in itself taking my two minutes right here.
Speaker 9: Josh Jacobs the hell of a player. He catches the ball,
Speaker 9: he blocks, he's tough, he finishes. Last year he had
Speaker 9: to deal a little bit with a quad injury that
Speaker 9: he was His yards per carry weren't as good as
Speaker 9: we've seen in the past. But this guy is you
Speaker 9: hand him the ball, things happen, and I do I
Speaker 9: respect Derek Henry. I just give you a little bit
Speaker 9: of a younger guy. But give me a guy that
Speaker 9: to me, that's got that ability.
Speaker 6: To do everything. I'm not gonna take this guy off
Speaker 6: the field.
Speaker 9: I'm gonna swing it to him. I'm gonna screen it
Speaker 9: to him. I'm gonna hand it to him. I'm gonna
Speaker 9: hand it to him on the goal line. He's gonna score.
Speaker 9: He's a physical player. Josh Shacobs is that.
Speaker 6: Guy for me.
Speaker 10: Uh well, with several of those names right now at
Speaker 10: the running back position in my mind to grasp does
Speaker 10: little Greener on the other side and is one of
Speaker 10: those like give him what happened last year and she
Speaker 10: was just like, all right, let's just change things up.
Speaker 10: And what I'm having a hard time imagining right now
Speaker 10: as we talk about free agency is what position are
Speaker 10: you really willing to make that big splash? What does
Speaker 10: the money When you talk about the money, what does
Speaker 10: that look like for a running back? Like like, does
Speaker 10: you know those guys it's gonna be expensive, it's not
Speaker 10: gonna be too I honestly.
Speaker 2: Don't know what the running markt is gonna look like
Speaker 2: from a money stand.
Speaker 6: I don't.
Speaker 9: I think the music I talk about the I talk
Speaker 9: about the you know, with the chairs, I don't think
Speaker 9: they're gonna be enough chairs.
Speaker 6: I really don't.
Speaker 9: And the running back draft the way it is, people
Speaker 9: are probably gonna look at that and go I could
Speaker 9: get cheaper help that way too.
Speaker 6: I think I think these guys, I think these running backs,
Speaker 6: when free agency opens, they're going to jump on some
Speaker 6: quick deals because the money could dry up for them
Speaker 6: real fast.
Speaker 2: And it might not be big deals. It might just
Speaker 2: be deals in I think maybe.
Speaker 6: Some one year deals.
Speaker 9: Maybe you'll see some one year deals here that the
Speaker 9: running I just think they're they're the quality of the
Speaker 9: position of now when free agent, it's the best I've
Speaker 9: ever seen it. And I feel like that these guys
Speaker 9: are like, listen, we can't wait for money. We can't.
Speaker 9: We got to take it. We've got to get out
Speaker 9: of teams because it's a it's a dying position to
Speaker 9: a lot of teams.
Speaker 6: Just a dying They don't want to pay the guy.
Speaker 2: And the fact of the matter is, when you think
Speaker 2: about the money, the reason why all these guys are
Speaker 2: available is because their teams didn't want to sign them
Speaker 2: to the money that they thought they were due. Right,
Speaker 2: And so I think there's at least a sizeable number
Speaker 2: of teams that are like, yeah, we're not going to
Speaker 2: necessarily pay you that amount of money, and so I
Speaker 2: just I don't think that. I think you could probably
Speaker 2: get one of these names for a decent amount of money,
Speaker 2: certainly not the kind of money running backs used to
Speaker 2: make back in the back in the day when running
Speaker 2: backs were still considered like a premium position.
Speaker 4: I think there's.
Speaker 10: Always like that, There's always a team that will be
Speaker 10: willing to pay, you know, whatever it is. I'm just
Speaker 10: thinking what the Cowboys situation is heading into this free agency.
Speaker 10: They talk about being all in, but is the running
Speaker 10: back position the position where they're willing to be all
Speaker 10: in right off the back? Like you said, you have
Speaker 10: to make those deals right away. Are the Cowboys willing
Speaker 10: to be that they haven't been, that they haven't done
Speaker 10: or acted like they're Usually they take their time, they
Speaker 10: analyze what the market is, the situational and then they
Speaker 10: start making moves. And right now, I don't know if
Speaker 10: running back sits at the top of the priority for
Speaker 10: free agency for that first couple of days.
Speaker 2: I actually agree with you, and I actually don't expect
Speaker 2: the Cowboys to be quick players in free agency this year.
Speaker 2: I think everybody's kind of looking at that and expect
Speaker 2: you I don't expect it. I expect this year they're
Speaker 2: gonna they're gonna kind of do it like they normally.
Speaker 4: Do it now.
Speaker 2: And but that's also the thing. I do think some
Speaker 2: of these running backs will also be in that boat
Speaker 2: because there won't be teams just jumping out to make
Speaker 2: the big splash. Yeah, signing with the big money for
Speaker 2: running backs early on. The way you get little salary
Speaker 2: out on players is when you wait a little bit.
Speaker 2: Those ones that are gonna go immediately, those are gonna
Speaker 2: be for big money deals. I don't think running backs
Speaker 2: are necessarily gonna get those.
Speaker 11: Big money deals.
Speaker 6: That's my opinion.
Speaker 2: All Right, appreciate you guys. Jones. We're back out soon.
Speaker 2: We will find out next week. By this time next
Speaker 2: week we will be in the middle of talk exactly
Speaker 2: what's happening for that. Until then for pout Walker, Brian
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