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Speaker 1: early on the Chase Claypool, this dude's battled back. He

427
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Speaker 1: made one of the greatest trades in the history of

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Speaker 1: American sports, in the Caleb Williams Bryce Young trade. And

429
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Speaker 1: this is just high level stuff type stuff like how

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Speaker 1: he does right, just like I need these. If they're not,

431
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 1: we're out. And he was out, So props to Ryan

432
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:53,880
Speaker 1: Poles was kicking ass and taking names. Joe Shane gave

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Speaker 1: some quotes to some local media about Daniel Jones and

434
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Speaker 1: the negotiations because let's face it, when you're still talking

435
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Speaker 1: about the negotiations of the contract, which is a year

436
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 1: and a half old, you got a problem. And he

437
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Speaker 1: essentially said that there is really not a middle class

438
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Speaker 1: when it comes to quarterbacks. Trust me, that was the

439
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 1: selling point for the agents at the time they do

440
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 1: their homework. All these guys were coming up as well,

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Speaker 1: meaning the other quarterbacks about to get paid. And I

442
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 1: hear what he's saying, but there are middle class for quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: and you could argue Daniel Jones is lower middle class.

444
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Speaker 1: And if you sign a lower middle class player to

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Speaker 1: an upper class per year amount and they gave him

446
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 1: ninety million dollars, guaranteed, you have a major problem. So

447
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Speaker 1: the agent can say whatever he wants. I don't blame

448
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Speaker 1: the agent for saying that. That's his job. It's on

449
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,679
Speaker 1: you to go, Yeah, we're not smoking crack in this building.

450
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Speaker 1: We're not doing that. This is what we're willing to

451
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Speaker 1: pay and if you're not, and this is going back

452
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Speaker 1: where they should have franchised, you know, just let go

453
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 1: hit the open market. Let the open market talk. This

454
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 1: is a free market economy. You hit the open market,

455
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 1: will find out you're worth. That's why the running backs

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Speaker 1: bitch and them on. Like, guys, we've seen you hit

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Speaker 1: free agency. I see the numbers you're getting, Like, that's

458
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 1: your value. That's what other teams there's only thirty two

459
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 1: of them are willing to pay you. Who was giving

460
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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones remotely anything close to that? It's the argument

461
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Speaker 1: with Dak Prescott. It's like, listen, we can pick him

462
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Speaker 1: all you want, but someone would give him an ungodly

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Speaker 1: amount of money if he hit free agency. We've seen

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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins hit it twice, got a lot of money.

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Speaker 1: Who's paying Daniel Jones that? So yeah, there's no middle class.

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Speaker 1: Well we don't think your quarterback's upper class, so we're

467
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Speaker 1: not paying him that way. I think it's pretty where

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Speaker 1: are you gonna go? Like, where are you guys going?

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Speaker 1: Because what you say, great that I guess that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: But we've seen middle we saw two of who I

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Speaker 1: would say is you know, not upper middle class but

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Speaker 1: not middle middle class, somewhere in the middle of that.

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Speaker 1: But at least he's proven, like back to back years,

474
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Speaker 1: I can compete to make the playoffs. Daniel Jones. When

475
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,679
Speaker 1: we saw that first game, what are we talking about?

476
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Speaker 1: Best he's he's ever had through fifteen touchdowns. So I

477
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 1: feel like the agents just took advantage of him here,

478
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Speaker 1: like they dominated. And sometimes it doesn't matter getting dominated

479
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Speaker 1: by the agent, right, getting great players, justin Jefferson. The

480
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers last year got dominated by Nick Bosa's agent.

481
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 1: Who cares. Let's say the forty nine ers get bent

482
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Speaker 1: over by Trent Williams and his agent, tip my hat,

483
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Speaker 1: Micah Parsons, you're gonna take advantage of me, Okay, here's

484
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 1: your money. Where you never want to get taken advantage

485
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 1: of is on deals where the ROI ain't gonna be

486
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Speaker 1: the same. Like can you overpay for property, you know,

487
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,919
Speaker 1: on the water at Lake Tahoe. Some would argue maybe not,

488
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Speaker 1: it might not be possible, but you sure hell can

489
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Speaker 1: overpay for property in like Stockton, California. I'll promise you that.

490
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 1: And I look at Joe Shane, I go, you got

491
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:12,439
Speaker 1: worked and you don't want to get worked on a

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Speaker 1: player who plays that position who's just not good enough,

493
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: you are officially screwed. There's nothing really to say on

494
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 1: bo Nicks. He's a starter. Of course he's a starter.

495
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 1: I would say nothing is age better faster than Sean

496
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 1: Payton going. We can't stand Russell Wilson slash the draft process.

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Speaker 1: I'm all in on bow Knicks. He took a lot

498
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 1: of shit because former players, a million of them have

499
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,880
Speaker 1: a mic there. They love former players or they love

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Speaker 1: current players, even though they don't even like Russell Wilson.

501
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 1: Like that's bs the way he was treated. Russell Wilson stinks.

502
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Speaker 1: I mean, he just he used to be great. He's

503
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Speaker 1: one of the most electric players I've ever seen, but

504
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: it's twenty twenty four. He's not any good. If you're

505
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: an opposing team, you would send a limo, send a bus,

506
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Speaker 1: send a helicopter to make sure Russell Wilson is ready

507
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 1: to kickoff because you can't wait to play him, especially

508
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Speaker 1: when you factor in how much money. Sean Payton's like,

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Speaker 1: I cannot do this, and everyone's like he likes bo

510
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: Knicks with that that guy from Auburn who's just inflated

511
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: numbers in Oregon. Yeah, looks pretty good. Guy won the

512
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 1: starting job. I know it took the second preseason game.

513
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 1: Guy won the starting job a week and a half ago.

514
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: This thing's been a rap for a while. So and

515
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 1: if Sean Payton and bow Knicks are just show promise

516
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,719
Speaker 1: this year, that's an all time win. I know they

517
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Speaker 1: had to eat the money that wasn't Sean Payton didn't

518
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Speaker 1: sign that contract, but this notion, some of the takes

519
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: last year on that would just like puke in my mouth,

520
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 1: Give me a break. And I never I was like, Okay,

521
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 1: they cut him. It's like they handled that poorly. They're

522
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: paying the guy like eighty million dollars so to be.

523
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Speaker 1: I mean, who knows, maybe, but when the dust settles

524
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: doesn't even be up justin fields for a week one

525
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Speaker 1: and last, but not least. I was in the car

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Speaker 1: doing my seven VET e er trips yesterday and I'm

527
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Speaker 1: a Series XM guy and I flip around the channels

528
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: and sometimes I go to Channel eighty five. You know,

529
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: Dan Patrick will be on there. They just do rerun

530
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 1: interviews a lot of times, and Florio on there as well,

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Speaker 1: and Florio and Chris Simms, who I like. I don't

532
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: agree with Florio a lot of the time, but I

533
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: appreciate the little hustle business thing he's got going. And

534
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: Chris like, listen, I don't have to agree with everything

535
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 1: he says either, but he entertains me sometimes. Both of

536
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: them said what Tua said was over the top and unneeded,

537
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: and I thought this. I said, well, I tried not

538
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: to hold grudges, and Colin had a great line way

539
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: back in the day that holding a grudge is like

540
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: chain smoking. Hate some people, it really drives them from me.

541
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: I don't like sitting in negativity. I think I'd be

542
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 1: pretty good at talking about politics. I think it'd be

543
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: pretty successful. But I don't like the way talking about

544
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 1: politics makes me feel. Makes me so angry. It's not

545
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: very fun. Even when I'm ranting and raven about football,

546
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: It's still ultimately fun and it doesn't make me mad

547
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: unless I lose a lot of money on a game

548
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: like Lamar Jackson. Then I get really mad. But they

549
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: were saying about too, like how bullshit it was that

550
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 1: he said what he said, calling him a bad guy,

551
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 1: and I thought, well, he lived that experience, and I've

552
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: had some situations I've been fired twice, and I don't

553
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: want to say I hold a grudge. The second guy

554
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: in radio is so irrelevant and just one of the

555
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: biggest buffoons. He just doesn't even matter to me. I

556
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: don't actively route against him. I don't even know what

557
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 1: the hell he's doing and couldn't care less. But some

558
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: would say I have a vandetta against Chip because clearly

559
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: Chip didn't like me and got me out of there.

560
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: And I would say this, like, I think Chip's a

561
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: bad guy. I experienced what I experienced, and I saw

562
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Speaker 1: what he did to a ton of other people, and

563
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: that's just a fact. That's my experience. Should I not

564
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: say that, because that's that's not a nice thing to say.

565
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: It's like, no, I experienced it. I know people that

566
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: I'm very close to experience even worse stuff. Doesn't mean

567
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: he doesn't know football, doesn't mean he doesn't no offense.

568
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: I think he's a bad a human, and it was

569
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: come out since when Jeffy Lurry told him to get

570
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 1: they allowed of the building. And I think that Brian

571
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 1: Flores treated to a You couldn't treat him any worse.

572
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: You're allowed to scream at players, You're allowed to be mean,

573
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 1: but clearly what he did felt like it like what

574
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: are you doing here? And I was thinking about, like

575
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: all these Belichick guys and everyone, they were giving Brian

576
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: Flora so much credits, like he was humbled. Can you

577
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: believe how well he handled that situation? What else was

578
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: he gonna say? Nothing? Tuas said was a lie who

579
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: was just telling if you tell the truth, the facts

580
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 1: are on your side too. Is not lying. He has

581
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: no reason to lie. He's got one hundred and fifty

582
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: million dollars just being like, yeah, the guy was fucking

583
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: asshole like it was. And like I said the other day,

584
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: this guy comes from Nick Saban, so it's not like

585
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: he's used to some country club environment. But like you know,

586
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: Brian Flores really handled it well. He deserves another shot,

587
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: deserves another shot. Bill Belichick can't get a job, the

588
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: head honcho of the tree, the patriarch of the whole operation,

589
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: could not get hired. And Flores, who couldn't get along

590
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: with the guy who's proven to be functional. None of

591
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: these guys And here's the other problem. And I felt

592
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 1: for this last time, Josh McDaniels, what happened in Denver,

593
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: it was like all this time. I remember reading this

594
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: Dan Pompeii article about how he looked in the mirror.

595
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: He wrote a journal, he really improved, he worked on it,

596
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 1: and it's so easy to say that, like I've done

597
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,959
Speaker 1: some self reflection, I've worked in the mirror, I'm a

598
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: better person. We all fuck up. Like, I'm not holding

599
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: that against him, I'm not saying he doesn't regret it.

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00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: But I've seen the Belichick guys literally say like, I

601
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: gotta be better, I gotta be different, and then get

602
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: another chance, and it's the same freaking thing. So it's

603
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: you know why, because that's all they know, that's all

604
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,719
Speaker 1: they've ever seen. Now, you could argue, maybe Flores now

605
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: he's with Mike Tomlin, Kevin O'Connell, maybe he gets a

606
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: new experience. But like if Belichick and listen, who knows,

607
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: there's no guarantee he's getting a job in twenty twenty.

608
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: If Bill Belichick is unhirable as a head coach, every

609
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: single guy under his tree is not even remotely close

610
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: to hirable as a head coach. Say it's not possible.

611
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: If you can't hire Bill the head haunt you the

612
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 1: guy who literally taught these guys fucking everything they know,

613
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: no one else is hirable regardless of what Tua said.

614
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: So I think this stuff like anyone being negative about Tua.

615
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: You know, we sure he's tough enough, and listen, I

616
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: have those question marks in terms of the winner, But

617
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: how can you argue that he's mentally tough enough. When

618
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: he played for Saban for years, it wasn't like, you know,

619
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: he's only he's a one and done. No, he's with

620
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 1: Saving for three years and this is like not the

621
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 1: last I mean Saban, especially when he first got there.

622
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: I think he mellowed out a little bit, but that

623
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: is no walk in the park. So this notion that

624
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: two across the line, No, he had an experience. He

625
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: believed what he saw and happened to him. And clearly

626
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: no one's coming out and being like, you know, to

627
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: a that's not exactly what happened. No, when you experience things,

628
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 1: you can say whatever the fuck you want, like that

629
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 1: that actually happened. Now, if you're lying about it or

630
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 1: making things up, it's like you got it. It happens

631
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: all the time in politics, like everyone's lying. But in

632
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: this situation like this, facts like these things actually happened.

633
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 1: And then he experienced something else. It's like, well, I

634
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 1: experienced something else and that's not the case at all

635
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: this guy. And listen, we can nitpick Mike McDaniel, who

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Speaker 1: everyone's making fun of looks like a coke dealer. Who

637
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Speaker 1: I mean, his curly hair, the glasses, the watch. It

638
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: is what it is. He's you know, it's called new money.

639
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:06,879
Speaker 1: But regardless, I have no problem with anything to us said,

640
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: and I don't think there's anything Brian Flores can say

641
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 1: to take that stink off them, because all the Belichick

642
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:18,720
Speaker 1: guys couldn't stink anymore in terms of the perception around

643
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 1: their ability to be a head coach. Okay, Middlecoff mailbag

644
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 1: at John Middlecoff is my Instagram fire in those dms,

645
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: here's Scotty. I can't say I've been a diehard listener,

646
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: but I listened to you a lot. It's better than

647
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: you suck get a real job. I heard on the

648
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: mailbag recently. How you feel about the Raiders over the

649
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 1: last few years. I get why we're looked down upon,

650
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: but I do think we have a direction even with

651
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: a bridge quarterback. Do you think the Raiders originally wanted

652
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: Pennix before Atlanta snagged him from Vegas, Minnesota, etc. Hope

653
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: I make the mailbag. I would. I don't think it's

654
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,919
Speaker 1: inconceivable that they liked either Pennix or bon Nicks, because

655
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: I saw Sean Payton saying he was getting a little

656
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 1: nervous with the Raiders kind of sniffing around. I've said

657
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: all along, and I get it because they gave him

658
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: a lot of money, so it was kind of a

659
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 1: tough spot. I do wonder if the Raiders regret if

660
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: they like Pennix or bon Nicks a lot, not just

661
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 1: trading with someone like the Chargers or something like, would

662
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: it have been worth it for them to give up

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00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,919
Speaker 1: their first rounder the following year and just go from

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00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 1: wherever they were thirteen to five, you know, flipping giving

665
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: a third round pick and a first round or next year.

666
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 1: So I don't know exactly. I think they have to

667
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: a little bit because they're just they're in this weird

668
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: no man's land. Whenever I see someone picking them to

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Speaker 1: finish last in terms of like having the number one

670
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 1: overall pick, and like, that's that's impossible. They have too

671
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: many good players. But if the quarterback situation is what

672
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: most people think, it's gonna be that's like six to

673
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: seven wins, and that just puts you in this weird spot,

674
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: which sucks. I mean, let's let's face it. If you're

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00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy, do you really want to come back to

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00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: Dallas after the season, regardless of the outcome. Pittsburgh and

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00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 1: Philly may be options at season end. Uh. I think

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Speaker 1: if you're Mike McCarthy and you have a successful season,

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00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 1: you would want them. You would want to stay. You're

680
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:44,439
Speaker 1: the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys, like, you don't

681
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 1: want to leave managing the Yankees or the Lakers or

682
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: Manchester United, right Like if if you're Tiger Woods is

683
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: Caddy Like, it's a pretty good gig. So I would say, one,

684
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 1: he wants to stay, and if he earns it, if

685
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: they're in the end of championship game, like I think

686
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 1: he's getting it. I think what would be interesting, like

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Speaker 1: let's say they win a wild make the wild card,

688
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: win around, and then get beat in the second round.

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00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: What happens there? That's where it would be weird. The Steelers. Yeah,

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00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 1: I mean I think that you would want to lean offensive.

691
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: He's all these guys that we see getting hired. Mike McCarthy,

692
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: like Dave Canalis impressive year last year with the Bucks.

693
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: Who would you hire if you had the opportunity? Mike

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00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 1: McCarthy or Dave Canalis? Jonathan Gannon met the guy the

695
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: combine seems like a nice guy. Who would you hire

696
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: if you could choose? Like these are typically the names

697
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:45,399
Speaker 1: in these cycles. So Mike McCarthy if it doesn't work

698
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: out in Dallas and let's say they're pretty solid this year,

699
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 1: wild card out? Can you amattin now the crew? Here's

700
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: the one issue Vrabel No McCarthy, he's accomplished more than Vrabel,

701
00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: been doing it longer. Offensive guy too, Belichick, who's probably

702
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: specific to Filly or Dallas. You'd think maybe New York.

703
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think if Mike McCarthy's let go,

704
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: he would one hundred immediately get interviews Bears fan not

705
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 1: a Bears question though. Everyone is wondering about the Cowboys

706
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: and Dak but it seems really similar to the Vikings

707
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: and Kirk Cousins. Dion already named the Cowboys as a

708
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: landing spot for Shador, along with a few other teams.

709
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: It feels obvious to me, But can't it be that simple? Well,

710
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Speaker 1: let's say Chador is really good. And I think I've

711
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: mentioned this on the podcast before. I was texting with

712
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 1: a buddy, probably a couple weeks ago NFL scout and

713
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: he was at Colorado, and I said, what do you

714
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 1: think about North Dakota State upset Colorado Week one? He's like,

715
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 1: no chance, He's like one being at Colorado. They look

716
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: pretty good. They look better than they did last year

717
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 1: in terms of talent. Two, the quarterbacks really impressive, and

718
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: like he's clearly talent wise off the field, you know,

719
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: in terms of crushing teammates online, the leeway Dion allows

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Speaker 1: him to do. I don't know if you really get

721
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 1: that in the pros. You know, you kind of got

722
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 1: to shape in. But he's I think when it's all

723
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: said and done, it's not inconceivable he's the number one

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00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 1: overall pick. If Dallas wins eight, nine, ten, eleven games,

725
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: they're not even remotely close. And this is not the NBA.

726
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 1: If Dean goes, we won't play, you go, sure, you won't.

727
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,919
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do? Sit out the year? Even

728
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: when that happened to Eli, He's like, I won't play there.

729
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 1: He's still got picked. And then just got traded, but

730
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Speaker 1: it was to the team drafting four. So if the

731
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Speaker 1: Cowboys are drafting, let's just pick a number. It's twenty four.

732
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Speaker 1: I was like, I wanted to play in Dallas. I

733
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: wanted to play in Atlanta, and it's not happening. So

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Speaker 1: it's this. It gets complicated fast. I hope I answered

735
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: your question. The difference is Minnesota. I guess there were

736
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: so many quarterbacks in this draft that they knew they

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00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 1: would get one of them. They had the two first

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Speaker 1: round picks. They were cool once they signed Sam Darnold.

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Speaker 1: I think regardless of what happened, I don't know if

740
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Speaker 1: Jerry Jerry doesn't feel like he wants to put himself

741
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Speaker 1: in that position because there was some unknown the off

742
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 1: season once Kirk signed the draft, it could have gone

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Speaker 1: some other way. I mean, it's not inconceivable that someone

744
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 1: trades up drafts a guy. My friends and I have

745
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: this debate all the time. How is a defensive holding

746
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 1: an automatic first down but an offensive holding penalty is

747
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 1: just ten yards? Resetting the down makes the penalty way

748
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 1: more severe for the defense. I get offense pays the

749
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:02,760
Speaker 1: bills and everyone loves seeing Touchdow, but defensive holding should

750
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: be a ten yard penalty with no automatic first down.

751
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 1: Wondering what you think about defensive holding and if it

752
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:15,439
Speaker 1: should be automatic. My take is it should be where

753
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 1: the holding takes place. So if it's third and twelve,

754
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 1: nothing grinds my gears more. Then when it's third and

755
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: long and a holding happens within three or four yards,

756
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: innocuous or blatant, and you get an automatic first down,

757
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: that is bullshit. That is insane. It should then be

758
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 1: like you said, third and eight, so you get to

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00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 1: redo the down, but you don't get the twelve yards,

760
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 1: Or if it's third nine and it's five yards, it's

761
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: third and four. I was thinking this the other day

762
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 1: because I was watching it was when Caleb threw that

763
00:42:56,560 --> 00:43:01,280
Speaker 1: bomb to U not one of the main three guys.

764
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: I forget the guy's name, and the dude on the

765
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: Bengals grabbed him. I mean, the dude might have scored

766
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,919
Speaker 1: and got past interference and it was like forty five

767
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: yard pass interference. I do wonder if we would be

768
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 1: better served now. You could argue it would be much

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00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 1: more promoted for defensive players to commit egregious pass interferences

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00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 1: on bombs that now obviously they try to avoid. But

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00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: just to the college rule that you only get fifteen yards,

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Speaker 1: because now that I'm talking about it, I do see

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Speaker 1: the other side of like, well, my guy would have

774
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: caught it, he tackled him five yards before. But that

775
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: play is a low percentage play to begin with. I

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Speaker 1: guess I'll say this if you told me that tomorrow.

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00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: Goodell sends out a memo and says, we have changed

778
00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: past interference from at the spot wherever it goes down

779
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,760
Speaker 1: and can be twenty thirty to fifty however many yards

780
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: to just an automatic first down fifteen yard penalty. You

781
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 1: would not hear me complain. You would not hear me

782
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 1: complain at all. That's definitely one I like with one

783
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 1: college rule that I'm really behind. Just heard Colin on

784
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: the Herd today playing the clip of Pete coming back

785
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: to USC and wanted to bring this question back to

786
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: the top of the queue and see if it's relevant

787
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:31,240
Speaker 1: more today. So the question. Born and raised in Orange County,

788
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: but I've been a Barrier native for the past eighteen years.

789
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 1: Four years d one water polo cal Berkeley, No big deal,

790
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:45,959
Speaker 1: good shape, good education. Then transition to the beautiful world

791
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: of tech sales in San Francisco. This guy's probably doing

792
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:52,280
Speaker 1: well cal grad tech sales, getting tax tied, but probably

793
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 1: making a lot of coin Go Niners have a two

794
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 1: part question. As a lifelong Trosan fan with USC headed

795
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: to the Big Ten, I am more of the concerned

796
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 1: preaching the choir bro Lincoln Riley squandered the Heisman winner

797
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:11,240
Speaker 1: and their defense is a joke. Number one, Can Lincoln

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00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 1: Riley's program have success in the Big Ten? Number two?

799
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: If they go close to five hundred? Can you see

800
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: them taking a phone call from Pete? Pete, in my opinion,

801
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,760
Speaker 1: is a strong arm run game with a hard nosed defense.

802
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 1: Do you know what's sad? Really quick? As I saw

803
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 1: that clip, I think on Instagram it was like a

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00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: Seattle local radio and Doug Baldwin and this famous radio

805
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,399
Speaker 1: host up there, Softy had Pete on, and I think

806
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: Doug asked them like do you plan on coaching again?

807
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: And I think Pete they were talking more NFL specific.

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00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 1: I think Pete gave a pretty revealing answer without specifically

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00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: saying it. He to me reading between the lines is

810
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 1: like I don't expect anyone to ever hire me again. Now,

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00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: the oldest he was the oldest coach in the league

812
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 1: last year. The defense has been bad. But I do

813
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 1: think it's fair to say he is never going to

814
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 1: be an NFL coach again as a head coach, and

815
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 1: he's made so much money in what world would he

816
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: want to be an assistant though? If he'd be like, yeah,

817
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: I'll be your dB coach for a million dollars a year,

818
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 1: he'd be one of the best DV coach in the league.

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00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: He might. He'd be the best dB coach in the league,

820
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: him and Belichick. The difference is Belichick could immediately be

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Speaker 1: like the best position coach at like ninety percent of

822
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 1: the positions offensive line, obviously, defensive line, linebacker, dB. He'd

823
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 1: be elite tight end, running back, O line, quarterback, and

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00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,919
Speaker 1: wide receiver. You know, it wouldn't be my first hire,

825
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 1: but he could do it. I don't think Lincoln Riley

826
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: works at USC. He's actually been on this podcast before

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00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 1: years ago when most of you were not listening. So

828
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: I my guy that hired me and got me into

829
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 1: football at Fresno State has been at Oklahoma for a

830
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: long long time. He was is titled now is basically

831
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: the GM but got there with Bob Stoops stayed with

832
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: Lincoln and now they're still with Anibles And I'm an Oklaho.

833
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 1: I root for Oklahoma because of Drew Hill and you

834
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: know Baker Mayfield. They're a fun program to groove for.

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00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 1: And I liked Lincoln a lot, and I thought that

836
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 1: it fit so well. Small town Texas guy went to

837
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 1: Texas Tech, Mike Leech, Bob Stu It just worked. And

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00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 1: I don't see it working at LA. And to me,

839
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: LA is like kind of takes a special guy. And

840
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:41,240
Speaker 1: I just think Lincoln is not California. You can't fake

841
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: where you're from, you really can't. You know, I have

842
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: West Coast tendencies that I will not shake, just like

843
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 1: people from the Northeast have things that like Belichick works

844
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 1: in the Northeast. Tom Coughlin works in the Northeast, just

845
00:47:55,920 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: like Spurrier and Bowden and Kirby and Nick Saban work

846
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: in the South. And I don't see it working. And

847
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 1: I think their team is gonna be not good this year.

848
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,800
Speaker 1: So you pay a guy one hundred and twenty million dollars,

849
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: they're not gonna fire him. But could they basically just

850
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: look at each other and be like this is not

851
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 1: working and Lincoln just goes coaches Florida. I don't even

852
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: know if that would be a great fit. But just

853
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: wherever some other program that fits more him Arkansas, I

854
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: don't know. I just don't believe that USC and him

855
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 1: are a cultural match. Would you hire a guy seventy

856
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: four years old? I would say this, you could do

857
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 1: way worse. And if Lincoln Riley goes seven to five,

858
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: which was one hundred percent on the table, I mean,

859
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: think about this. They gave Lincoln Riley one hundred and

860
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: twenty million dollars and by year three he's begging out

861
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: of the LSU game. And you'd go, well, LSU just

862
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 1: won the Actually they didn't. They went nine to three.

863
00:48:56,040 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: They lost their Heisman Trophy quarterback right behind your quarterback,

864
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:04,800
Speaker 1: They fired their defensive coordinator, they lost Molik Neighbors, who's

865
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: pretty damn good. They also had another wide receiver go

866
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 1: in the top twenty five. I mean it's like, it's

867
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: not like they didn't lose and have a lot of

868
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 1: question marks with their team. And Brian Kelly said, hell, no,

869
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,439
Speaker 1: we want that game. Why wouldn't he want that game?

870
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 1: Because like most people, I think LSU's gonna kill him.

871
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna shove them around. Hope I'm wrong

872
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 1: because I like it when USC is good. I think

873
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: they're gonna stink. Relative to the hype we anointed this

874
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: team as like Lincoln's there, they're gonna compete for national titles.

875
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:42,879
Speaker 1: They don't even feel remotely close. Think about this, nobody,

876
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: let me let me rephrase this. Most people are not

877
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 1: picking LSU and Brian Kelly to make the playoff this year.

878
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 1: Doesn't mean it can't happen, doesn't mean it won't happen.

879
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 1: But I would say most people are in college football

880
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: think they're more likely to be like nine to three,

881
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: eight and four, not a playoff team. Yeah, I would

882
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 1: imagine ninety nine percent of people that talk about college

883
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,439
Speaker 1: football are picking LSU without even hesitating in that game.

884
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: They're both going into year three. Remember it was kind

885
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 1: of a letdown when Lincoln went to USC and not

886
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 1: to LSU. And then when Brian Kelly was in a

887
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 1: weird way their fallback and they gave ninety five million

888
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:25,280
Speaker 1: dollars to So I don't know, man, I think USC

889
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 1: is in trouble. I just don't think it works. I

890
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: just don't think it works. I think sometime, like in

891
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: the NFL, if you can coach, you can coach. Shane

892
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:37,839
Speaker 1: Stikeens from Sacramento went to UNLV's coaching in Philly and Indy.

893
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: No one cares, right, Kyle Shanahan grew up in Denver,

894
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:48,879
Speaker 1: now Andy Reeves, La, Philly. None of it matters, went

895
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: to by, None of it matters college. It does because

896
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,919
Speaker 1: of recruiting, because the boosters in the NFL, you deal

897
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 1: with one guy, the owner, unless you're with the Bears

898
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 1: or the Pack, then you deal with Kevin Warren or

899
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: the board. But even the Package, you deal with Murphy

900
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 1: who's retiring and whoever the new guy's gonna be in

901
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 1: the NFL ninety percent of the teams. I like, there's

902
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: one call I have to answer. It's the owner a mailbag.

903
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 1: I was wondering if you had any tips on how

904
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 1: to start scouting in general. I want to start at

905
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: the high school level. Uh, I would say in twenty

906
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 1: twenty four, you have so many resources that I would utilize.

907
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: I'm more of a visual guy than like, I learned

908
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: better through video than I would through reading. There are

909
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 1: incredible books out there, scouting manuals and stuff. But they're

910
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 1: just type in YouTube, one of the biggest search engines

911
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: in the world. Type in whatever you want. In terms

912
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 1: of how to scout, what to look for in scouting,

913
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:01,800
Speaker 1: how people have done it? I mean a lot of

914
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,439
Speaker 1: people do it and then just learn to me the key.

915
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 1: It's a teachable skill, right. There are certain things in

916
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 1: life like you gotta be born with certain abilities. Scouting

917
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 1: is not one of those. It can be taught. One

918
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 1: percent be taught and you just need to watch. And

919
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 1: the more you watch, the more you learn on what

920
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 1: to look for. High schools can be a little complicated

921
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 1: because of projecting guys. You know, they grow so much.

922
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 1: If you're watching a fifteen sixteen year old getting fired

923
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 1: up for football this Danny so I would utilize YouTube.

924
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: Can you please break down how a quarterback like Mac

925
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,879
Speaker 1: Jones was a pro bowler three years ago and now

926
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: he's lucky to even make a roster. I mean he's

927
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 1: not lucky. He's the backup quarterback for the Jacks. Like

928
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 1: he's a legit, he's a top forty five quarterback in

929
00:52:56,200 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 1: the league. Is it poor coaching, roster, lack of buying

930
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 1: from the organization, or all the above? What gets back

931
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 1: to the player, so he made a Pro Bowl as

932
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 1: an alternate. A lot of guys have Pro Bowls on

933
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 1: their roster, like Lamar Jackson and Patrick Mahomes were Pro

934
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 1: Bowlers last year. Well, Patrick Mahomes couldn't play in the

935
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. I don't know, And again I don't even

936
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 1: last year is a bad example because they didn't play

937
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 1: the game anymore. But let's use the Mac Jones year.

938
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:34,240
Speaker 1: Like when Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen or whoever can't

939
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 1: play in the game, Josh Allen just doesn't go to

940
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 1: the game. Why he's playing golf at Pebble Beach in

941
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 1: the AT and T. He will never if the game

942
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: still happened or whatever they're doing, will never show up

943
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 1: because that weekend is always the AT and T Pro Am,

944
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 1: and he is going to play in that thing till

945
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 1: he dies, I would until he can't play golf. So

946
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 1: you gotta fill these spots. And so Mac Jones was

947
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:59,359
Speaker 1: not a Pro bowler, but he was solid. They also

948
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 1: won a game that year where he had three pass attempts.

949
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:06,439
Speaker 1: It was a uniquely situated team, fantastic defense, good running game.

950
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 1: But Mac Jones is a symptom of quarterback inflation and

951
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 1: guys getting drafted that don't have the physical skills to

952
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 1: get drafted where he did. If you told me mac

953
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 1: Jones was a third or fourth round pick, I wouldn't

954
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 1: argue with you at all. It's where guys like Nick

955
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 1: Foles went. You see a lot of guys kind of

956
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 1: of that mold, you know, Russell Wilson, Kirk Cousins, Dak Preston.

957
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,240
Speaker 1: If some of those guys work out, some of them don't.

958
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 1: But picking mac Jones at fifteen overall is one of

959
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 1: the most insane draft picks of all time. I said

960
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 1: this at the time. Trey Lance was a disaster, But

961
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 1: if Kyle Shanahan had gotten his wishes and taken mac

962
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 1: Jones at number three overall, it would have been the

963
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 1: most arrogant and ridiculous draft pick in the history of

964
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:58,800
Speaker 1: the league. It would have been the least talented anyone

965
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 1: has ever been picked in the top three in NFL history.

966
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 1: He does not have the physical characteristics, and his one

967
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 1: shining moment in college was a COVID year where Bama

968
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 1: was working out the whole offseason rightfully, so I don't

969
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 1: blame him at all, and a stacked team, and obviously

970
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 1: LSU had just lost everybody from the previous year and

971
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 1: a bunch of guys didn't play, and he kicked everyone's ass.

972
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 1: But he's average mobility, average arm clearly as you saw

973
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,800
Speaker 1: in New England, which wasn't all his fault, you know,

974
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 1: kind of arrogant, you know, not exactly. I wouldn't call

975
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 1: him Tom Brady, you know, in terms of teammate and

976
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 1: listens to coaches. So if you could redo the draft,

977
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:47,280
Speaker 1: he was just traded for a sixth rounder, he's better

978
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:51,399
Speaker 1: than that. But to me, if I was just doing

979
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 1: a board going into the draft, and I said the

980
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:57,360
Speaker 1: same thing about Kenny Pickett, their third fourth round picks

981
00:55:58,040 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 1: who I'd rather have in the fourth round, I'd rather

982
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 1: they not use my third round pick on them. Historically

983
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:04,959
Speaker 1: that's where guys like that went. And then the last

984
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 1: ever since, I would say the Mahomes effect on the league.

985
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 1: It just changed the world forever. And these quarterbacks get

986
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 1: overdrafted and then you got problems. It's why I think

987
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 1: everyone's can't figure out brock Perty For like, in a

988
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 1: day and age, when you got a draft quarterback so

989
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 1: freaking high, even though aren't that good you're telling me

990
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 1: they got their sweet starting quarterback with the last pick

991
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 1: in the draft. It drifts people nuts, So yeah, it happened.

992
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:39,280
Speaker 1: I don't want to come off sounding like a Homer,

993
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: but I think the Seahawks are a team that is

994
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 1: being wildly underrated. They're over under seven and a half

995
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: and they're coming off back to back nine win years.

996
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 1: The team is arguably significantly better with an extremely underrated

997
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 1: defense that McDonald will surely take to the next level.

998
00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:00,120
Speaker 1: We'll see how Ryan grubbs offense translates to the NFL,

999
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 1: but Washington's offense was elite and the Seahawks certainly have

1000
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 1: enough playmakers. I agree. Why is no one talking about

1001
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 1: Seattle and then being in a great position to compete

1002
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 1: for a wildcard spot? Side note, I think McDonald was

1003
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 1: the greatest guy you could hire in a division with

1004
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:21,439
Speaker 1: McVeigh and Shanahan, as there was no way you could

1005
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 1: hire that guy that would be able to scheme hire

1006
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 1: a guy that would be able to scheme either one

1007
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 1: of them. Offensively, I agree it was a good hire's

1008
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 1: nickname in Baltimore's Boy Genius. Mike McDonald is a really,

1009
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 1: really impressive guy. Fantastic higher, and like you said, Ryan

1010
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 1: Grubbs offense, he has three sweet wide receivers, I mean Jackson,

1011
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 1: Smith and DK That's that alone, young guys. And Tyler

1012
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:51,959
Speaker 1: Locke has been good forever. Kenneth Walker's a stud pass

1013
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 1: rush a little bit of a question mark for me.

1014
00:57:55,160 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 1: But and listen, having that against McVeigh and Shanahan, I'm

1015
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 1: with you. We saw McDonald last year against Shanahan punked

1016
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 1: him on Christmas. I mean he destroyed he curb stomped him.

1017
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 1: That that's of all Shanahan's like good teams. It's one

1018
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 1: of the most eye opening losses I've ever seen. You

1019
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 1: know I can remember. But I think here's the problem

1020
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 1: quarterbacks Geno Smith. And this is where some of you

1021
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: guys pushed back like Gino's better and you give him

1022
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 1: credit for it's Gino Smith. When you go around the

1023
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 1: league and you go, I want to play that guy,

1024
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 1: it's not one of the first guys like I want.

1025
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 1: I don't want to play this guy. This guy makes

1026
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 1: me nervous. Now, Ryan Grubb is I think elite. I

1027
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 1: had the biggest bet I've ever made in my life

1028
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 1: was him against Steve Sarkisian's defense. In that final four game,

1029
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 1: and I honestly pushed out because I split it on

1030
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 1: the spread and the money line. I should have just

1031
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 1: hammered the money line because because Ryan Grubb and Dubor

1032
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 1: against Sark was a massive mismatch. Honestly, they should have

1033
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 1: been a twenty point win. Texas fans you know it.

1034
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 1: But I just sweated out. But still, he's never coached

1035
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 1: in the NFL. And I'm not saying that that's a

1036
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 1: deterrent that you can't and can't make a transition, but

1037
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 1: it's a pretty big It's one thing to go from

1038
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 1: hey position coach in the SEC, work my way in

1039
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 1: the NFL, work my way up, become a coordinator. He's

1040
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 1: a lifetime college guy and really most of his career

1041
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 1: smaller schools. And this these last two years, I would

1042
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 1: say put him on the map. And two years ago,

1043
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 1: remember Saban tried to hire him and he turned him down.

1044
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 1: So this guy's the real deal. But coach in the NFL.

1045
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 1: The comfort Like one thing with McDonald is work in

1046
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: the NFL a long time now, knows the strengths and

1047
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 1: weaknesses of a lot of players in the league, like

1048
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 1: has a pretty good idea of offensive coordinators, knows what

1049
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 1: it's like to play against Kyle, to play against the floor,

1050
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 1: to play against McVeigh, whoever. The best teams around the league,

1051
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 1: he's played them all. Ryan Grubb has not. He's never

1052
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 1: coached against the forty nine ers players, the Rams players, whoever.

1053
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 1: I have to look at Seattle's schedule. But regardless, it's

1054
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 1: like Belichick and Andy Reid's and Pete Carroll's greatest strength.

1055
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 1: There's not a player in the league who they didn't scout,

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01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 1: who they haven't coached against, who they haven't evaluated. Belichick

1057
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 1: knew everyone's strengths and weaknesses going back to the seventies.

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01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 1: So his knowledge on players. Again, it's on him to

1059
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 1: build his team good enough, but he knows everything about

1060
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 1: every player in the league, especially once he starts game

1061
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 1: planning for them on a weekly basis. That institutional knowledge, Like,

1062
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 1: there's not a player in the league Andy Reid doesn't

1063
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 1: have pretty good knowledge of, and a lot of them

1064
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 1: knows him really well. I'm talking about opponents and obviously

1065
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 1: all the defensive coordinators in the NFL. Some of the

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Speaker 1: man he's seen a bunch, Some of a man he's

1067
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:05,439
Speaker 1: just seen once or twice, but he's coached against all

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01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 1: of them, and if they're a new defensive coordinator and

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01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 1: they're come from a place, he's coached against everyone in

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01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 1: that tree. Ryan Grubb just has it so that that

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01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 1: move always makes me a little nervous. It's a transition. Obviously,

1072
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 1: his offense was extremely successful and was awesome to watch,

1073
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 1: but I do think that's an underrated jump. I get,

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01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 1: I sneaky get a lot of Seattle questions. Seattle fan.

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01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you about Gino rumor saying he

1076
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 1: wants an extension prior to the season. I like Gino,

1077
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:44,919
Speaker 1: but he did sign a prove it deal just last

1078
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 1: year where he regressed. My thoughts are, he's zero to

1079
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 1: five against the Niners, has never won a playoff game.

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01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 1: In my opinion, giving a thirty four year old a

1081
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 1: quarterback extension zero playoff wins would be a second dumbest move,

1082
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 1: and franchise is done throwing on the yard one yard

1083
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 1: lines the dumbest. I agree, I'd rather trade him for

1084
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 1: a seventh round pick and rock twenty three year old

1085
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 1: Sam Howe. Here here's what I would say. John Snyder

1086
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 1: is now in the quarterback market under no circumstances, would

1087
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 1: they give Geno Smith a contract extension Unless he's signed

1088
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 1: for like five million dollars a year, they will not

1089
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 1: give him a contract extension. That will not happen. And

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Speaker 1: John has been in the deep end because I have

1091
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 1: buddies that are on the road and see him at

1092
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 1: games over the last couple of years. You know, Will

1093
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 1: Levis like he's just been sniffing around. Obviously, Pennix, bo Nicks,

1094
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 1: they have been doing their due diligence over the last

1095
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 1: couple of years, even that last year. Russell Wilson on

1096
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 1: these quarterbacks, and I don't think that's stopping him. I

1097
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 1: think that is their number one goal right now. And

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01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 1: the problem is they're going to be good enough where

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01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 1: let's talk about teams that are all in searching for

1100
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 1: a quarterback. Number one would be the Raiders. You could

1101
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 1: argue that Seattle could be right behind him, if not equals,

1102
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 1: because they both go. If we just had a good quarterback,

1103
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 1: we got a bunch of players on this roster, why

1104
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 1: couldn't we be a playoff team every single year? And

1105
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 1: here's the thing about John. He was the guy that

1106
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 1: found Russell Wilson and convinced them to take him. He

1107
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 1: was the guy that wanted to trade Russell Wilson and

1108
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 1: take Josh Allen. I think he's one of the better

1109
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 1: gms in the league, and now it's just can he

1110
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 1: figure out which quarterback in this class he wants and

1111
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 1: how he's gonna trade up to get him. So Gino

1112
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 1: Smith like, it's been awesome. He he kept the franchise

1113
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 1: afloat because when he traded Russell Wilson, a lot of

1114
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 1: times it could have just been ugly. Like the previous

1115
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 1: DM er said, we won nine games back to back years.

1116
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 1: Your last couple of years have not been that bad.

1117
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 1: You've had some bad moments in the season, but you've

1118
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 1: also had some great moments, kicking Russell's ass the Monday

1119
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 1: night game against the Eagles, making the playoffs two years ago,

1120
01:03:57,560 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 1: being right in the playoff mix last year. Up until

1121
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:02,960
Speaker 1: last couple weeks, you've been more than credible with an

1122
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:06,920
Speaker 1: awful defense, fun offense. Kenneth Walker love that guy. He's

1123
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 1: like might be one of my favorite underrated players in

1124
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 1: the league. I don't even know if people consider him underrated.

1125
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 1: But you gotta find your guy. You gotta find you know,

1126
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 1: Mike McDonald's bow Knicks or Mike McDonald's brock Purty. Ultimately

1127
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 1: the Rams will see Stafford's healthy. Is like they gotta

1128
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:30,040
Speaker 1: start thinking about that. Who's gonna be mcveigh's next guy.

1129
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 1: It ain't Stetson Bennett. It's obviously not Jimmy g But

1130
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 1: I think in a perfect world, like next year, the

1131
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 1: Rams thirty six, thirty seven year old Stafford, you keep him,

1132
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 1: you red shirty guy behind him. Maybe you dropped a

1133
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 1: quarterback next year in the first round. So there are

1134
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 1: a lot of teams sniffing around. I mean, the Jets,

1135
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 1: Rogers forty, they're gonna need a quarterback. Do you think

1136
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:54,640
Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur is the most underrated coach in the league.

1137
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:57,320
Speaker 1: Seems like other coaches who have come from the Shanahan

1138
01:04:57,360 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 1: Tree get more love. O'Connell McDaniel for sure. Well think

1139
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 1: about this. You know it's funny. O'conne just seems like

1140
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:10,400
Speaker 1: a good guy, former quarterback, good looking, made the playoffs

1141
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 1: two years ago and got beat in the first round

1142
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 1: by Daniel Jelles. Like that happened. We witnessed it in Minnesota.

1143
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 1: That's a bad loss. Mike McDaniel, who he's just funny.

1144
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 1: I think I think people are just they talk about

1145
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 1: him a lot because he's just he's a unique character.

1146
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 1: But on the field, even if I give him a

1147
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 1: past two years ago, I mean, he had to play

1148
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 1: a playoff game with Skyler Thompson and they actually did

1149
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 1: pretty well against the Bills. The Bills at one point

1150
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:45,959
Speaker 1: in time are six and six, and the Dolphins, I forget,

1151
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 1: they're exactly ten and one or nine and two, or

1152
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 1: they were three, four or five games ahead of them,

1153
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 1: and they lost the division and then got curb stomped,

1154
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 1: just throttled, just chuck led, Haymaker to the throat slash chin,

1155
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 1: slash eye in the first round against Chiefs, and everyone

1156
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 1: kind of circle jerks both guys. I'm with you yet, Lafleur,

1157
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, Rogers a shot McCarthy couldn't figure it out,

1158
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:20,880
Speaker 1: resurrects back to back mvpce wins playoff games. Then it

1159
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 1: gets a little weird that last Rogers season. He's like, Oh,

1160
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:27,200
Speaker 1: we're going to love when the dust settles. They're in

1161
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:31,440
Speaker 1: the playoffs with Jordan Love working the Cowboys something the

1162
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 1: other two guys can't do. So it's like, oh, you

1163
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 1: won playoff games with Aaron Rodgers. No shit, Okay, let's

1164
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:39,720
Speaker 1: not even count that he just took Jordan Love a

1165
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 1: four year project. First half of the season looked awful.

1166
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 1: By the end of the season, we're talking like this

1167
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 1: guy's a franchise quarterback, goes on the road in the playoffs,

1168
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 1: doesn't win a playoff game, dominates, and honestly could have

1169
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:56,320
Speaker 1: easily beat the Niners. I say, over and over again,

1170
01:06:57,200 --> 01:07:00,200
Speaker 1: I don't know all these guys, like, obviously mc and

1171
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:02,640
Speaker 1: Shanahan have done a lot. Put them in their own category.

1172
01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 1: But why are we talking about Lafloor with O'Connell or McDaniel.

1173
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 1: McDaniel can't dream of winning a playoff game, let alone

1174
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:17,120
Speaker 1: the division. O'Connell got to the playoffs early with his

1175
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 1: veteran good quarterback and lost to the Giants. That happened.

1176
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 1: I watched it on the couch, so I hear you,

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01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 1: I hear you. He gets I don't know. Maybe it's

1178
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 1: the eyebrows. I'm not quite sure, but not in my world,

1179
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 1: Like I don't have la Floor. You know, Shannan's beat

1180
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 1: him multiple times in the playoffs, but I would have

1181
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:49,440
Speaker 1: him above the rest of the crew of dudes. I'll

1182
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 1: promise you that. I mean, if you just do the Shannan,

1183
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 1: if you just pulled, most people in the media it's like, Okay,

1184
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 1: Shannan McVay or McVay, shanahan, whatever, who's the next, I'm

1185
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 1: with you. They'd be like, Oh, that that quirky dude

1186
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:05,400
Speaker 1: with the expensive sunglasses. And in Miami and Kevin O'Connell.

1187
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 1: I love Kevin and I like those guys too, Like

1188
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 1: obviously Mike McDaniel and Kevin O'Connell all good coaches, but

1189
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 1: I think most people put them above Lafloor. It's like, hey, guys, uh,

1190
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:18,479
Speaker 1: remember what he did. I mean, remember what this guy

1191
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:21,640
Speaker 1: did with Jordan Love. Keep atal a chip on your

1192
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 1: shoulder though. If you're a packer from appreciate everyone listening,

1193
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:28,160
Speaker 1: have a great weekend, and hug your dogs. Hug your dogs.

1194
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Speaker 1: The volume