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Speaker 1: Welcome to Huddle Up, brought to you by the Fields

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Speaker 1: Total Group, Jaguars Senior writer John Oser, NFL Network analyst

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Speaker 1: and former Jaguar Bucky Brooks, and Senior reporter JP Shatdrick

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Speaker 1: bringing you the latest on your Jacksonville Jaguars.

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Speaker 2: Huddle Up starts right now. Welcome in. It is Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: December eighteenth. That's Huddle Up without Bucky Brooks today, JP Shadwick,

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Speaker 2: to Fieldsauto dot com. We'll have our last look at

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Speaker 2: the Jets Jaguars game, the lone assignments at the end,

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Speaker 2: the first look of the Jaguars Raiders matchup this week

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Speaker 2: in Las Vegas, and Jaguars Youth getting experienced down the

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Speaker 2: stretch with three games to go down in the twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four regular season. Bucky Brooks in travel Hell today.

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Speaker 2: O sure is here with me though in the Hundai studios.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, John.

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Speaker 3: The albatross has been lifted in the neck.

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Speaker 2: Really, this is do This is when the show twins up.

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Speaker 3: It's like when you lose thirty pounds. And you go

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Speaker 3: out there and you're just ready. This is I have

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Speaker 3: been wait for this.

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Speaker 2: Well, this is your time to shine hard, time to

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Speaker 2: shine on Bucky's show. Well, let's talk a little ball.

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Speaker 2: We're kind of dealing with the aftermath still of the

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Speaker 2: Jets Jaguars game thirty two to twenty five. We know

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Speaker 2: all the blown coverage at the end. The offense showed

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Speaker 2: early life, they ran the ball better, Ryan Thomas Junior,

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Speaker 2: Brenton Strange playing well. But as the season really has unfolded,

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Speaker 2: the storyline has been the defense and their inability and

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Speaker 2: actually sometimes the offense. Key moments late in games have

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Speaker 2: been really the storyline of this team, offense and defense.

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Speaker 2: This week it was the defense. Blown coverage has missed,

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Speaker 2: assignment's mental errors, and Devontae Adams put us up an

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Speaker 2: all time quarter against this team.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's still open. You know it's it was, I mean,

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Speaker 3: Devanta Adam. Things. We've seen unbelievable stuff happening against this team.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to say it's the most unbelievable, but

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Speaker 3: it was up there. And you sort of get tired

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Speaker 3: after a while of when you're writing and analyzing a game,

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Speaker 3: which we all have to do after games of saying, well,

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Speaker 3: this symbolizes the season because this was this But it

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Speaker 3: was the same sort of loss they've had many many times.

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Speaker 3: The difference was they played well offensively, which they haven't

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Speaker 3: done enough this year, but the defense gave up huge,

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Speaker 3: break breakdown plays at the end of the game. This

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Speaker 3: one where you know it it's you almost have to

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Speaker 3: try to have a guy that wide. Ope, it's you know,

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Speaker 3: it's almost impressive in that sense. And then turn around

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Speaker 3: and as well as mac Jones played at the end

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Speaker 3: of the game, given a chance to get back in it, uh,

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Speaker 3: the offense couldn't make the play late, which again is

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Speaker 3: big plays offensively, I mean big plays defensively explosive. That's

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Speaker 3: if your bullet pointing the season. Yes, it's big plays

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Speaker 3: giving up defensively and not making big plays at the

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Speaker 3: end of games. So does it symbolize the season? Probably

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Speaker 3: no more than seven or eight of the game.

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Speaker 2: There's like six, seven, eight other ones that we could point.

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Speaker 3: To it, so it's almost not a microcosm. It's just

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Speaker 2: That's what they are.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that was my hot team. You know, we

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Speaker 3: have hot takes on Jags. Am Okay and that was

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Speaker 3: the only hot take I could think of. Is this

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Speaker 3: is you know, you've been saying it all year. You

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Speaker 3: have to read my ozone every day. This is what

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Speaker 3: this team is. It's not a very good team. It

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Speaker 3: gives up a lot of big plays, as a lot

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Speaker 3: are that Yeah, I wish this wasn't true. They're not

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Speaker 3: good and bad teams figure out a way to lose

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Speaker 3: games like that, and that's what they are. And I

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Speaker 3: would love it if they weren't, but it's what they are.

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Speaker 2: Let's get to the at least some of the positives

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Speaker 2: on the Jags offense last week, which there were a

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Speaker 2: lot of. There were some yes, and Mac Jones looked

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Speaker 2: Travis Etn and Tank Biggsby both ran pretty effectively in

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Speaker 2: Brian Thomas Junior, of course, just continues that the star

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Speaker 2: continues to rise for him. He's closed again on a

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Speaker 3: It's a huge sign. I thought they did a nice

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Speaker 3: job JP on Sunday of you know, I don't know

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Speaker 3: that I would call their performance overall offensively incredibly consistent

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Speaker 3: It's a lot considering his history here so far. If

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Speaker 3: no matter what the organization looks like, Doug Trent, whoever's

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Speaker 3: so I think you're finding some stuff that's really important.

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Speaker 2: By the way, we've been talking all season long, John

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Speaker 2: fast starts or lack thereof. On offense. Yeah, they scored

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Speaker 3: even the Patriots victory is one of their three victories.

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Speaker 3: They had to come from behind, and against Tennessee they

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Speaker 3: had to come from behind. It's a hard way to

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Speaker 3: credit to him. The other day they got that first

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Speaker 3: And we'll see if they can keep doing it.

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Speaker 2: We'll see and they'll try to do it this week

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Speaker 2: in Las Vegas against the Raiders.

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Speaker 3: Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Voting and tickets are now live, so be sure to

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Speaker 2: cast your vote for which Jags players you'd like to

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Speaker 2: big stars in Orlando this February. Go to Jaguars dot

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Speaker 2: to the Jaguars Raiders matchup in week sixteen at Allegiance Stadium.

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Speaker 2: It's huddle up with Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 4: Great player, good young player. Just his ability to separate

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Speaker 4: get opened obviously, you know, using him the right way

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: And he's a he's a he's a dynamic title.

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Speaker 2: He being rock powers of the Las Vegas Raiders. Welcome back.

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Speaker 2: It's huddle up without Bucky Brooks, j P Shadrick, John Osier.

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Speaker 2: Bucky is in transit at the moment, had a delay

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Speaker 2: in Atlanta. Razor hand if that's happened to trouble I

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Speaker 2: he won't be next week because it's Christmas. We won't

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Speaker 2: not asking in Vegas New Year's Oh, maybe we won't

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Speaker 3: Wow, I come up with something for January eighth, if

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Speaker 2: We're all I was old Joe fortunate. It says we're

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Speaker 3: If I can come up with some excuse for January eighth,

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Speaker 3: We're clear some new holiday, doing something else. Yeah, but

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Speaker 3: I'll see you, We'll see each other.

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Speaker 2: We're here, Yeah, we got other days of the week.

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Speaker 2: things to do here. We'll hear from Bucky though, on

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Speaker 2: this program at least in three weeks. Yes, I will

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Speaker 2: hear from him. Of course on Sunday, the Public's Tailgate

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Speaker 3: Pre game huddling. We always it's short, but is it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, it's a little kidding. It's always a good

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Speaker 2: Tailgates show and the ball game this week against the

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Speaker 2: Las Vegas Raiders. They have the number one pick next

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Speaker 2: year in the draft as of right now. They fought

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Speaker 2: struggling to find their way. You know, they've already changed

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Speaker 2: we see Carter Bradley, Cuss's son possibility who knows I mean?

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Speaker 2: And Max Crosby, the best defensive player on that team.

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Speaker 2: Really the heart and soul of that Raiders team is

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Speaker 2: out for the rest of the year. So that's what

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Speaker 2: you're walking into. But Brock Bowers, as Doug Peterson talked about,

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Speaker 2: Cool.

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Speaker 3: I'll admit you watch more college football than I do, JP,

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Speaker 2: and Blitz. So what Doug Peterson's talking about there was

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Speaker 3: in terms of the os on these shows, but there's

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Speaker 3: really not much point to it.

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Speaker 2: And by the way it's it would be on both

436
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Speaker 2: sides down the stretch here too, when the Raiders are

437
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Speaker 2: in the same ballpark, the Titans are out of it, right,

438
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Speaker 2: the Colts are probably going to be out of it

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Speaker 2: by the time we play them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's uh, yeah, it's the age old story.

441
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Speaker 3: You saw even the Raiders the other night, you know,

442
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 3: everybody out there saying, well, they're tanking, they're tanking, they're tanking. Well,

443
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:46,879
Speaker 3: they don't know if they were tanking at the end

444
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Speaker 3: of the game when they were throwing hail Mary's into

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Speaker 3: the end zone trying to catch it. So it's just

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Speaker 3: not a realistic conversation.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 3: Again, the Dolphins got docked for a couple of years back,

449
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,199
Speaker 3: but even then it was they're really the owner talking

450
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Speaker 3: about it, but they didn't do it. So you just can't.

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Speaker 3: Coaches and players don't do it. It's not their nature.

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Speaker 2: You can run the ball and make the clock go faster,

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Speaker 2: and I'll say that.

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Speaker 3: That I'm in favor down for that.

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Speaker 2: We're back in a moment. We'll wrap it up on

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Speaker 2: this Bucky Free Show today they huddle up with Bucky Brothers.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's very challenging.

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Speaker 5: By the end of the day, we all honestly know

459
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Speaker 5: this season not that we want to go, but we

460
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Speaker 5: still don't lose those dreams of being a super Bowl team,

461
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Speaker 5: and we know in order to get there, we're gonna

462
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Speaker 5: have to win games like this in the future. So

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Speaker 5: I feel like the best experiences teacher, and I feel

464
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Speaker 5: like we keep getting enough of these finally want to

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Speaker 5: hit that slip that switch, and then we'll figure out

466
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Speaker 5: and then would be the team winning a bunch of

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Speaker 5: one story games. So I feel like we we we

468
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 5: just keep learning lessons this year, but I feel like

469
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Speaker 5: we want to figure it out, and uh like just

470
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Speaker 5: learned experience is going to help us in that area.

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Speaker 2: Travis and Junior earlier this week and welcome back JP

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Speaker 2: Shadwick with John Oser huddle up without Bucky Brooks on

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Speaker 2: this Wednesday, our final show and this calendar year apparently.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and a word about Travis getting me a good guy.

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00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 3: It's the media good guy or some.

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Speaker 2: From the Pro Football Writers of America. Each team has

477
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 2: what do they call it, a.

478
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:41,360
Speaker 3: Writers hacks idiots. Yeah, I'm proud to be one.

479
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 2: What am I thinking of anyway? Yes?

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Speaker 3: And association and that award goes to the player who's uh,

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Speaker 3: you know, most helpful with the media, who sort of

482
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 3: doesn't mind it, takes those as seriously and that doesn't

483
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 3: just mean something in the media. I think over time,

484
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 3: as as videos and interviews get streamed more, I think

485
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 3: fans appreciate a player who will take the time to

486
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 3: give some insight, who will try to be cordial and

487
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 3: you know, uh professional about it. Trevor got it is

488
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 3: his rookie year. Evan Anger of Christian Kirk uh a

489
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Speaker 3: reverra Or revealed my three votes. I voted for Trayvon

490
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Speaker 3: Travis first, I think, and then Foyer Lucon because all

491
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 3: three of those guys have really uh you know, I

492
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 3: was saying, improved but very helpful this year, and it's

493
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 3: not easy to do during a U during a tough season. So, uh,

494
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Speaker 3: they don't do it to be nice to the media,

495
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 3: because that's just not They do it from a feeling of, hey,

496
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 3: the fans are important, we need to talk to them

497
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Speaker 3: a little bit too. So so credit to those three.

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Speaker 2: And it's not to say that they're always doing it

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Speaker 2: with a smile, but they're always, like you said, it's

500
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Speaker 2: a tough season. Maybe the game didn't go well, or

501
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,919
Speaker 2: they're not playing well, or they're banged up or whatever

502
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 2: the case is, but they're there answering.

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Speaker 3: Especially postgame, no doubt. I want to say most of

504
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 3: those three guys have talked after every game. And it's

505
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 3: not an easy thing to do. It's not a pleasant

506
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 3: thing to do. You're trying to get you know, you

507
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 3: have players all around he everybody, everybody's ticked. So again,

508
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Speaker 3: it's appreciated for those guys.

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Speaker 2: And we just heard Travis. They're talking about, Hey, what

510
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 2: this how challenging is it day to day to come

511
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Speaker 2: in and still continue and grind through this the last

512
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Speaker 2: month of the season, And that was his answer. He

513
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 2: also he just has a big picture awareness of his

514
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 2: role with the team, what it means, and I like hearing.

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Speaker 3: Him say he appreciates it. He he got football taken

516
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 3: away from him for a year. He also knows that

517
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 3: he's a running back, and I've talked about this a

518
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 3: little bit in the past. He knows that he's not

519
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 3: gonna play fifteen years in this league. You know, it's

520
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 3: not a forever position. And I always get the idea

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00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 3: of being around Travis and talking to him that he

522
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 3: appreciates every moment he's got with this. He appreciates it.

523
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 3: He dreamed of this, bad or good. He's living his

524
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 3: dream and he you know, I think there is a

525
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 3: sense of, Hey, a lot of people would love to

526
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Speaker 3: be here. I'll share in that with fans a little

527
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 3: bit if I can. So good kid, and he's he's

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Speaker 3: grown up a lot on that front. I think in

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Speaker 3: two or three years as he's matured as a person,

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Speaker 3: which is what you do when you're between twenty two

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Speaker 3: and twenty six years.

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Speaker 2: Old, no doubt about that. Huddle up with Bucky Brooks

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535
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Speaker 2: all quick look at the playoff races. We started the

536
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Speaker 2: AFC where Kansas City leads away thirteen and one, Buffalo

537
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 2: eleven and three, Pittsburgh they're at ten and four, and

538
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 2: then Houston of course, the AFC South champions nine to five, Baltimore,

539
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Speaker 2: Denver and the LA Chargers the current wild card teams.

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Speaker 2: The Steelers Ravens game should be a banger this week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be a good boy with Casey and

542
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Speaker 3: Buffalo though, JP. I just kind of feel like on

543
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Speaker 3: January twentieth, Josh Allen's gonna score four touchdowns and the

544
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Speaker 3: Chiefs are gonna win by one, I mean, and it

545
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Speaker 3: just feels like it's shaping up for that because he

546
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Speaker 3: he's unbelievable. Yeah, I mean, he's having a year, you know,

547
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 3: a Lamar Jackson kind of year where just all of

548
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 3: his team's offense and there's more to that offense. But

549
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Speaker 3: somehow the Chiefs are going to go sixteen and one.

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00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, They'll find a way somehow.

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Speaker 3: So it just kind of feels like that's your storyline

552
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 3: going into that. And yes, Pittsburgh and Baltimore maybe outside

553
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 3: of Kansas City, and I'm probably leaving people out, but

554
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 3: are there two better franchises in terms of just being

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00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 3: there all the time, knowing what they are sticking to

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Speaker 3: their guns.

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Speaker 2: Super consistent.

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00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, those coaches have been there since nineteen seventy four.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's an impressive they're impressive organizations. They do

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00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 3: a nice job.

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Speaker 2: Let's take a look at the NFC now, if we

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Speaker 2: get out of here, Detroit and Philly now twelve and two.

563
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Speaker 2: Detroit still at the top for the moment. Tampa Bay, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they're eight and six, eight and six thirty. They're playing

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00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 2: pretty good. La Rams eight and six, Minnesota twelve and two,

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Speaker 2: and the wild card spot at the moment, Green Bay

567
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Speaker 2: ten and four, Washington nine and five. Detroit is just

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Speaker 2: so beat up right now, running out of gas.

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Speaker 3: It's a shame because, yeah, I don't want to say

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Speaker 3: I like the Lions. I don't have much of an

571
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Speaker 3: affinity for any team outside the Jaguars, but there you

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00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 3: sort of feel like that franchise has done it so

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Speaker 3: well that you like to see them get a shot

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Speaker 3: and you feel like they sort of earned it. And

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Speaker 3: it's like you said, with him being so beat up.

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Speaker 3: All the NFL teams love to say next man up,

577
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Speaker 3: but there comes a point where you're next man up

578
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 3: or off the practice squad, and that becomes tough. To

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Speaker 3: coach through and to next man up through, and to

580
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Speaker 3: will yourself through. And it sort of feels like that,

581
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Speaker 3: you know, always been told by GMS. I respect that

582
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 3: it's a game of town, but in the playoffs it's

583
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 3: a game of attrition, and and you're hoping to get

584
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Speaker 3: to the playoffs with your quarterback intact and with healthy

585
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 3: enough to make the matchups go in your favor. It

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Speaker 3: feels like that's going to catch up with the Lions

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00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 3: this year.

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Speaker 2: You say you don't have an affinity for any other team,

589
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 2: that means you've given up your Washington Commanders.

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Speaker 3: I haven't had that since ninety four ninety five. I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean I was a huge, huge fan of that

592
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 3: team growing up. But I honestly I think the coach

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00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,719
Speaker 3: is the guy from Atlanta. I mean, I'm exaggerating.

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Speaker 2: I could.

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Speaker 3: I couldn't tell you the record. I couldn't tell you

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Speaker 3: the Uh it's I mean, who has time to be

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Speaker 3: a fan?

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Speaker 2: Right? And I don't Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Right? Tough roll tied.

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Speaker 2: Well, no, I mean it's different. They're not in the playoffs. John,

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Speaker 2: By the way, this would have been final thought here

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Speaker 2: JAG's Raiders coming up. This would have been the Ultimate

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Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks Show, because I would have been. The Jags

604
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Speaker 2: and the Raiders are two of the teams that he contributes.

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00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 3: And to the teams he played for. I mean he uh,

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Speaker 3: Bucky has I trust that he'll be pro Jags on Sunday?

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00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 2: Eh should be. He will better be.

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Speaker 3: And with it being Christmas dayp what I mean, we

609
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 3: won't see each o again until Chris that I wanted

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Speaker 3: to wish you a merry Christmas. Also, I wanted to

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Speaker 3: you've seen this before.

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Speaker 2: This is a I have seen this before.

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Speaker 3: Happy Holidays, Mark Jape, and you would think it's holidays,

614
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 3: but there's a dog in the side. So here in

615
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Speaker 3: the it says holidays.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great. What's in that cup old coffee?

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Speaker 3: Okay, So happy holidays everybody.

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Speaker 2: Same to you, John, good show. There's a show.

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Speaker 3: I guess it was a show.

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Speaker 2: Jags and the Raiders coming up this Sunday for twenty

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Speaker 2: five kickoff for the first time since twenty twenty.

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Speaker 3: They're right, Yeah for the Jags.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for twenty five. They've had some four h five kicks.

624
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Speaker 3: I detest four o'clock starts.

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Speaker 2: This is the last one of the you well, we'll

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Speaker 2: see I think maybe maybe we get maybe Week eighteen.

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Speaker 2: That's John oser Or Thanks to William paz Our, Thanks

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Speaker 2: to Joe Fortunato, to Brent Reaber Our entire crew, Thank

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Speaker 2: you for watching Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks. Thank