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Speaker 1: Wind Down with Jana Kramer and I'm Heart Radio podcast.

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Speaker 2: Hannah talk to us. Mom moment go, well, this is.

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Speaker 1: Gonna sound terrible. People might come for me on this,

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Speaker 1: but I just had a mom moment that my baby

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Speaker 1: is four and a half months old.

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Speaker 3: First of all, welcome back because you took a obviously,

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Speaker 3: you know, leave because you just had a baby, So

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Speaker 3: welcome back.

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Speaker 2: Thank you to the producing team.

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Speaker 1: I'm happy to be back, but I'm still figuring out

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Speaker 1: working and being a mom at the same time right now.

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Speaker 1: And I just had an emotional moment because I left

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Speaker 1: my baby in the other room and it's cold in

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Speaker 1: my house, and so she was wrapped in a blanket

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Speaker 1: to go set up her camera and the nursery, and

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Speaker 1: I heard her kind of struggling, and I came back

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Speaker 1: and she had the blanket over her face, and so

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Speaker 1: I just it was a very scary moment for me.

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Speaker 1: She's totally fine, but I don't think it happened. Was

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Speaker 1: very long, but I just kind of had like a

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Speaker 1: a mom breakdown of just feeling like I'm being a

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Speaker 1: little reckless or I don't know, it's just mom guilt

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Speaker 1: for sure. So anyways, I was like coming in, I

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Speaker 1: was like, my eyes are so splotchyl Oh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they look like red eyes.

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Speaker 4: But things happened, they really do.

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Speaker 3: I mean, first of all, I mean it's not like

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Speaker 3: you were you went out and was running errands with

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Speaker 3: your babies, you know, and so you're not putting your

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Speaker 3: baby to bed with a blanket. You know, you just

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Speaker 3: had to go do something for a few seconds. And that,

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Speaker 3: I mean, that happens, you know, and at four months,

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Speaker 3: you know, like that's a new thing. So now you

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Speaker 3: know that she's moving out of her the swaddles like

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Speaker 3: the second that. I mean that happened with Jace. The

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Speaker 3: swaddle went over his face one time and I've freaked out.

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Speaker 3: But it's like you once you realize they can start moving,

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Speaker 3: and then that's when you adjust things, like we didn't.

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Speaker 3: Roman was halfway up the stairs last week and I

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Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, like because I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 3: now he's crawling on steps and I'm like if he

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Speaker 3: would have fell down, I would have had that again,

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Speaker 3: that guilt, like I should have gotten already the baby gates.

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Speaker 3: But you don't know until you you don't know what

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Speaker 3: milestones they're going to be starting and doing Yes.

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Speaker 1: My husband and I were just having that conversation too

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Speaker 1: with our toddler on the things that we'll just like

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Speaker 1: walk out of the room for twenty seconds and like

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Speaker 1: he somehow has found scissors or no sort of thing.

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Speaker 1: And so it's all new parenting moments that we're learning.

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Speaker 1: But it's like scary and you can't help but feel

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Speaker 1: like you are just like being a bad parent in

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Speaker 1: that moment for sure.

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Speaker 3: I know, I mean like shot for a moment of

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Speaker 3: fell down the stairs to her. I remember going, nobody moved.

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Speaker 4: I don't like we're trying to say any same day, right.

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Speaker 3: You know, but I mean it's just again just to

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Speaker 3: go back to, you know, your situation. It's like you're

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Speaker 3: not a bad mom, You're a great mom.

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Speaker 4: And all had moments like that.

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Speaker 3: I promise hormones too with the yes, the crying, it

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Speaker 3: just yeah yeah, no, no, not about it.

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Speaker 1: But she's also had a sleep aggressions. So I got

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Speaker 1: about three sleep last night.

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Speaker 4: That's that's it.

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Speaker 1: Stamp up all night. So yeah, I'm just juggling a lot.

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Speaker 2: At the moment, you'll get into your rhythm.

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Speaker 3: I feel like when I hit six months with Roman

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Speaker 3: is when I started to feel a little bit in

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Speaker 3: the rhythm of juggling work and then being home because

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Speaker 3: it's you know, again, we don't have like that full

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Speaker 3: time support, so it's it can be trying to figure

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Speaker 3: it out and juggle. It is tough, but you'll get

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Speaker 3: into a rhythm for sure. But speaking of Hannah, the

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Speaker 3: reason why we started and just jumped into this was

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Speaker 3: because she was like, hey, girls, we've got Macy coming

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Speaker 3: on from the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. So this

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Speaker 3: past weekend she's like, all right, and she already knows

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Speaker 3: Kat like loves those type of shows, so she's like, girls,

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Speaker 3: watch the show. And so we just started talking about it,

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Speaker 3: and that's why I was like, Hannah.

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Speaker 2: Can you come on?

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Speaker 3: And she's like, oh, my eyes are all red, so

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Speaker 3: that's why she's on to also, you know, talk about

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Speaker 3: this show.

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Speaker 2: But we love you.

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Speaker 3: You're a great mom. Now are we ready to get

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Speaker 3: into the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 4: Yes? Oh my god, I.

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Speaker 2: Just have to ask.

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Speaker 3: I don't even I don't know because I feel like

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Speaker 3: there's so much I want to say off air.

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Speaker 4: This is the host chat we can say it with, right.

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Speaker 3: But I know I just always get a little gunshy

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Speaker 3: of what can be put out there.

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Speaker 4: Ask you guys, there we go, what are your.

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Speaker 2: Thoughts on Whitney Hannah.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I don't think she's necessarily the villain. I think

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Speaker 1: she was doing a lot for atension. I think she's

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Speaker 1: also trying to hide her personal life from things that

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Speaker 1: necessarily aren't approved in the Mormon Church. Honestly, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: be real with you. The RSV video, the TikTok dancing,

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Speaker 1: I cannot like, I don't think anybody deserves hate on

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Speaker 1: the line, but like I do understand people being upset

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Speaker 1: about that. Like I guess she was trying to make

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Speaker 1: light of the situation, but at the same time, like

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Speaker 1: I as a mom, if my child was going through that,

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Speaker 1: I just like I could not I would not do that.

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Speaker 1: I could not be in that headspace to be like,

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Speaker 1: let me try and do a fun little dance so

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Speaker 1: I get meeting a moment of levity. But to post

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Speaker 1: something like that, I also think it's a little insensitive

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Speaker 1: because the Nikki is a very sensitive place for a

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Speaker 3: I have other things about Whitney. I actually would love

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Speaker 3: to get her on because I will always want to

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Speaker 3: talk to someone that I might at times rub up

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Speaker 3: against just to get to know them too. On the

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Speaker 3: other flip side of things.

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Speaker 6: But when it comes to Whitney and like my thoughts

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Speaker 6: on her, I just think she's insecure. I think her

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Speaker 6: insecurities show in so many different ways that she's not

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Speaker 6: able to She wants it to be about her, but

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Speaker 6: I think it all goes back to her feeling insecure

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Speaker 6: around these women. I think that she probably doesn't feel

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Speaker 6: I don't fully I know a lot of people don't

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Speaker 6: that because I just feel like she's just like an

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Speaker 6: bad ways because of that, she's turning everything around on her.

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Speaker 6: Everything has to become about her. But that to me

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Speaker 6: just screams that she's insecure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: This is a super random thing, but I was watching

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Speaker 3: the Kardashians. I'm way behind, but I was Kylie was

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Speaker 3: talking about how hate still isn't She's like, it's just

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Speaker 3: it's hard, and I didn't think it gets to me,

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Speaker 3: but it really does. And I think whether you like

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Speaker 3: Nicki Nicki Nicole from Selling Sunset, it's like, I just

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Speaker 3: I think it's sad where social media is and people

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Speaker 3: are being so mean on the comment section, Like that

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Speaker 3: part makes me sad for anybody that is painted as

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Speaker 3: a villain or a victim on a show, because it's

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Speaker 3: so easy to just for anybody to go on and

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Speaker 3: just like type a negative thing about her. I think obvious,

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Speaker 3: So we can all have our opinions and stuff, but

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Speaker 3: I think going and the hate train of social media

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Speaker 3: is it's sad and I've I feared maybe she's getting

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Speaker 3: of made her out to be that I think what

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Speaker 3: I saw in there was the fruity pebble gift that

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Speaker 3: she gave Demi. I think I don't like how she

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, well, of course it wasn't funny to Demi,

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Speaker 3: Like that was a personal thing that she shared and

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Speaker 3: if it was funny, like it would have gone over great,

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Speaker 3: but it didn't, and then you became the victim. That

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Speaker 2: Don't know, I'm not loving this.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And she had a chance to own that and

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Speaker 6: be like and she did, Oh my gosh, I'm so

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Speaker 6: sorry because it could have gone I mean, I could

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Speaker 3: Been embarrassed that it doesn't work, like you might have

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Speaker 6: That's where I think she's just got a lot of

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Speaker 6: insecurities and she takes it in this like you know,

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Speaker 6: some people be like, oh my god, I'm so sorry

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Speaker 6: and like, but she just like made it all about

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Speaker 6: her and it was a constant. I do think she

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Speaker 6: wants to be Queen Bee for sure. I mean I

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Speaker 4: But I don't know, I agree.

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Speaker 2: I do.

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Speaker 1: Also, I don't like in a situation when it's almost

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Speaker 1: everybody against one person. So yeah, I really actually appreciated

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Speaker 1: that about Macy absolutely, and like the kind of friend

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Speaker 1: she was, Like she was the one who didn't seem

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Speaker 1: to talk bad about her and like her issues with her.

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Speaker 1: She kind of took to Whitney rather than fully engaging

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Speaker 1: with the you know, the women kind of talking really

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Speaker 1: do I did feel bad for her in the moment,

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Speaker 1: even though I did understand the other women's side. I

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Speaker 1: was like, I just don't like a moment. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: I'm curious about Whitney saying that she did say she

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Speaker 4: Think she just shaved some receipts slightly.

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Speaker 1: Actually is she posted a TikTok the other day showing

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Speaker 1: her text between like that she had texted Macy saying

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Speaker 1: that she didn't feel comfortable with the girls, she wasn't

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Speaker 1: in a good place mentally for that, and so that

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Speaker 1: she was sorry, but she wasn't going to come.

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Speaker 3: See that was See that makes me take off my

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Speaker 3: little you know tick for our box for Whitney, because

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Speaker 3: I one of my notes with Macy for today it

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Speaker 3: was I was like, she could have at least texted

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Speaker 3: you and said, hey, I'm sorry, this is why I'm

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Speaker 3: not coming. Like we've had a thing where we were

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Speaker 3: invited to a birthday party. We knew someone that Catherine

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Speaker 3: and I have had a history and some rough past

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Speaker 3: with that. We both were like, you know what, we

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Speaker 3: love you, but we don't want to subject ourselves to

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Speaker 3: that party, so we're not going to go.

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Speaker 2: That's all.

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Speaker 3: I was hoping that Whitney would have at least done

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Speaker 3: because on the show it made her seem like she

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Speaker 3: didn't text it all and that was like, up, final Star,

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Speaker 3: I'm done with Whitney.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I think that's why I had seen that, and that's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, unfollowed because you don't want them to text you

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, Macy is here. I'm so I've never been

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Speaker 4: I'm out, o boo.

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Speaker 3: get Macey on. I have a question before we bring

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Speaker 4: But otherwise I don't really think, yeah.

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Speaker 3: I can definitely see you got Macy and you for

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Speaker 2: Was, who's your favorite?

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Speaker 4: That's hard.

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Speaker 6: I don't think.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, because there's things that bother me and that I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she's in my top I see, like my but

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Speaker 6: I think she so badly wants to live by the

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Speaker 4: It was hard.

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Speaker 2: Yep. I agree, Yeah, I like it, but I love

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Speaker 4: Okay, so who are you.

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Speaker 3: I feel I feel like I'm a little bit of

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Speaker 2: Let's get her on.

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Speaker 5: Hi.

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Speaker 2: Hi, how are you doing?

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Speaker 5: You're doing good? How are you guys doing?

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Speaker 2: But I'm Jana, this is Catherine you guys.

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Speaker 5: I was a big fan of One Tree Hill. Just

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but were you an Alex fan?

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Speaker 5: I think I was, like, there was no one that

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Speaker 5: I just love that show back then, like I think

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Speaker 2: Oh, I love that.

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Speaker 4: Definitely late to the show because she's like ten years.

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Speaker 5: I'm twenty nine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, forties.

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Speaker 5: In college, Like I was like born summer break, and

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Speaker 5: I was like, I've always heard this show is good,

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Speaker 3: So I want to and I also to want to

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Speaker 5: I feel like to me, it's shocking, Like I don't

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Speaker 3: Well yeah, because I feel like you did play the

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Speaker 6: You know, most people probably like you, I mean because

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Speaker 5: So yeah, that's I'm getting that. I'm also getting like

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Speaker 5: not like that. I very much would be like, hey, listen,

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00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,200
Speaker 5: like you need to figure whatever this is like going on.

443
00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,560
Speaker 5: Like I was very like open with her too, and

444
00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,200
Speaker 5: they don't show that. Like I definitely call her out

445
00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:15,840
Speaker 5: for certain things. I'd be like, hey, you're being a

446
00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:19,119
Speaker 5: little impulsive about this, but that was cut, you know.

447
00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,600
Speaker 5: So I'm getting crap from like, oh, you're just blindly

448
00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,400
Speaker 5: loyal and like no, that's not true. But like also yeah,

449
00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:25,960
Speaker 5: like I do want to be friends with everyone.

450
00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:26,720
Speaker 1: So I got a.

451
00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,399
Speaker 5: Little feedback on that and a little feedback that I

452
00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,760
Speaker 5: was like playing both sides or something, which I was like,

453
00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,160
Speaker 5: I wish that's what I was doing, Like I was

454
00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:34,960
Speaker 5: I was smart enough to think of that tactic but

455
00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,439
Speaker 5: like I was trying to like live my life and

456
00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:39,879
Speaker 5: like not want to die by the end of filming,

457
00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,320
Speaker 5: so like I just trying to survive.

458
00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,000
Speaker 3: To be honest, I just want to start from the beginning,

459
00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,040
Speaker 3: because we had a few questions about.

460
00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,359
Speaker 6: Yeah, because I was not aware of the whole mom

461
00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:54,680
Speaker 6: Talk downfall of that stuff before the show. So take

462
00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:59,160
Speaker 6: us back a minute, because you were not involved before

463
00:19:59,240 --> 00:19:59,679
Speaker 6: the scandal.

464
00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,080
Speaker 5: Correct, No, so I was in mom Talk, but I

465
00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,240
Speaker 5: wasn't in the scandal, Like.

466
00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,680
Speaker 2: Gotcha, But are you kind of being attached to it though?

467
00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:09,880
Speaker 2: Because of yeah, yeah, for sure.

468
00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,320
Speaker 5: I think people even now be like, oh, they're just

469
00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,159
Speaker 5: trying to cover like they were swinging. I was like,

470
00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:16,960
Speaker 5: I wasn't. Like you can think what you want, but

471
00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,399
Speaker 5: like we didn't know what was going on really behind

472
00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,399
Speaker 5: the scenes. I had an inkling of feeling that they

473
00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,720
Speaker 5: were swingers, but like just for like things I was seeing,

474
00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:27,880
Speaker 5: but like no one truly knew until like the scandal

475
00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,400
Speaker 5: came out and was all over online and it did

476
00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,840
Speaker 5: attach to us a little bit, like people will think

477
00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:34,680
Speaker 5: I had a lot of people think I was a swinger, right,

478
00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:36,879
Speaker 5: But at the end of the day, I was like

479
00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:38,760
Speaker 5: I don't really care because I'm not like you can

480
00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:40,280
Speaker 5: think what you want. But like, at the end of

481
00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,119
Speaker 5: the day, I know what I am, so it didn't

482
00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:43,119
Speaker 5: affect me too much.

483
00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,639
Speaker 3: I do have a question around that because it wasn't

484
00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:48,560
Speaker 3: clear to me. Maybe I missed it while I was

485
00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,480
Speaker 3: folding laundry and dealing with the baby while finishing the show.

486
00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:55,879
Speaker 3: But did why did Taylor out like out the the

487
00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:57,800
Speaker 3: mom Talk and the swinging. I don't I don't understand

488
00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:58,240
Speaker 3: that piece.

489
00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,200
Speaker 5: So she did it because like there was rumors online

490
00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,640
Speaker 5: that she just like stepped out of marriage and was unfaithful,

491
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,199
Speaker 5: and so she's like, just not what happened that there

492
00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 5: was a couple of girls in the mom Talk group

493
00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,960
Speaker 5: who were like, I guess confirming that because they liked

494
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,439
Speaker 5: someone's comment of like Taylor Taylor cheated, and then like

495
00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,320
Speaker 5: people and the mom Talk like liked it, and so

496
00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,280
Speaker 5: then it was like, oh that every it's true if

497
00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,000
Speaker 5: someone liked it in the group, And so then Taylor's like, actually,

498
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,359
Speaker 5: it's not what happened, Like this is what was going

499
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 5: on because she just kind of want to sit the

500
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,520
Speaker 5: record street because she was kind of looking like kind

501
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:29,959
Speaker 5: of like a villain like I think she still did

502
00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,280
Speaker 5: a little bit after, but like because it made it

503
00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,520
Speaker 5: look like she just stepped down a marriage's unfaithful and like,

504
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,720
Speaker 5: but no one only knows was really going on. So

505
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:37,880
Speaker 5: I think that's why she did it.

506
00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 4: And so are any of those girls in the show?

507
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 1: Not?

508
00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:44,360
Speaker 5: Once? Yeah?

509
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 1: Not?

510
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,680
Speaker 5: None of the swingers besides Taylor are in the show.

511
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:49,679
Speaker 6: Okay, that's what I thought. I just that was a

512
00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,159
Speaker 6: little unclear. I feel like too, So I just wanted

513
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:53,400
Speaker 6: to come from that.

514
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,720
Speaker 2: That's interesting. Did you know them though? The other girls?

515
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,760
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, we all made videos together and did it all.

516
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,440
Speaker 3: So did they were they kind of when they heard

517
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 3: about the show where they was that the thing where

518
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 3: they said they reached out. I saw something where it

519
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,200
Speaker 3: was like I don't know if it was Taylor or

520
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 3: I don't know, but it was said, oh, someone reached

521
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 3: out to do a show with them too or something.

522
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,200
Speaker 5: So oh there was something so like before the scandal.

523
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,680
Speaker 5: I guess they it was Miranda Canill and Taylor got

524
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,679
Speaker 5: reached out by like a production company, but it was

525
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,920
Speaker 5: just like an intro call. It was never an offer.

526
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,159
Speaker 5: And there's a guy he was like, oh, look like

527
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 5: they were offered a show, but I'm like they weren't

528
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 5: though it was an intro call. I've done intri calls

529
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 5: for shows before this one too, Like it's just kind

530
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,439
Speaker 5: of the beginning, but like they could have been in

531
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 5: the show if they wanted to be, but I don't

532
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,000
Speaker 5: think they wanted to because of Taylor to know, like

533
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 5: one of the girls is like I don't want to

534
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,680
Speaker 5: do I think my mental health. So there's a few

535
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 5: reasons that makes sense.

536
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,399
Speaker 3: Did you think the fruity pebble gift was funny?

537
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I will say that the way that was

538
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,960
Speaker 5: edited looks different than what happened a little bit, but

539
00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 5: I don't know how much I can really say because

540
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 5: of my contracts and stuff. But like I got called

541
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 5: a mean girl for that. I was like, this is

542
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 5: like still taking out of context, not any funny, but yeah,

543
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 5: that whole is there interesting?

544
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 4: Okay.

545
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 6: I felt like possibly that it didn't All of that

546
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 6: did not really add up to me. It was very

547
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 6: I don't know, but that makes sense.

548
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 3: So if you were to obviously you're in the mom

549
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 3: talk text message, if you unfollowed that group, would you

550
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,160
Speaker 3: expect girls to reach out to you to say why

551
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:35,120
Speaker 3: did you unfollow.

552
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:40,360
Speaker 5: No, that's just not my personality at all. So I mean,

553
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,199
Speaker 5: obviously that someone else's personality and they wanted someone to

554
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,360
Speaker 5: chase after them, but that's not something I would ever do.

555
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 4: See.

556
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 6: I think that's fair. I think everybody's so different with that.

557
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 6: I think that it can be a boundary thing for

558
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,440
Speaker 6: some and it can be an attention thing for others.

559
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 5: But I too, if I were to leave because I

560
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,679
Speaker 5: needed the boundaries, I would leave and just be like

561
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,120
Speaker 5: done with it and not like I mean like, why

562
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 5: aren't people chasing out for me? Like that's just my opinion,

563
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 5: that's what it was. Truly poor but.

564
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, yeah, where do you girls who you guys

565
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 3: didn't get screeners?

566
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 2: Did you or did you guys watch the show when

567
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:12,119
Speaker 2: we watched it?

568
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 5: You watched it when you watched it?

569
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 2: Okay, So like we were.

570
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 3: Just talking about that, like we're best friends and we're

571
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 3: like if we did a show, and then I'm like,

572
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 3: I'm like, that's not what I said, are you guys?

573
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,360
Speaker 2: Like how is your friendship post?

574
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 3: Yes?

575
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,400
Speaker 5: I feel like most of us are good, Like obviously

576
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 5: there's one girl in our cast who's kind of not

577
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 5: too good, and I feel bad because like she is

578
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 5: getting a lot of keyt online. But I think for

579
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 5: the most part, like all of us are fine like

580
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,120
Speaker 5: with each other and everyone's good, and I think we realized, hey,

581
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 5: like this is a reality ShW at the end of

582
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 5: the day, Like sometimes things that we take out of

583
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 5: contact sometimes you know, you say things in the heat

584
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:50,639
Speaker 5: of the moment that you don't mean like, and I

585
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 5: think we're all pretty solid on that. That's like the

586
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 5: most part, Like no one like talked bad behind each

587
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 5: other's backs. Besides, like the friendship's.

588
00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,040
Speaker 3: Name with Whinny, So yeah, I want to say, I

589
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 3: I feel like you're alluding to Whitney being the person

590
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 3: getting the heat. Yeah, where do you guys stand out?

591
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,919
Speaker 3: Because you were such a you were you did befriend

592
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:11,880
Speaker 3: her when all the other girls did. So, how how

593
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 3: is y'all's friendship now?

594
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 5: I would fay, like we're cordial. I don't think we're

595
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 5: even a fraction as close as you were when we

596
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 5: started the show because of everything that's transpired at the

597
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,199
Speaker 5: end and her not supporting me is just kind of like,

598
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 5: I don't know, I'm not giving it a one side

599
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 5: of friendship, but like we're so friendly and so we had,

600
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,160
Speaker 5: we did some press together, and then the show came out,

601
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 5: and obviously it's been really hard for her, and I

602
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,439
Speaker 5: totally understand. I understand where she's coming from with all that,

603
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,959
Speaker 5: but certain things that she did publicly, like posting our

604
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 5: text online, I.

605
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 3: Was like, yeah, so can we ask about that, because

606
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:50,440
Speaker 3: I mean I definitely started to have certain thoughts about Whitney.

607
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,400
Speaker 3: And and then when she didn't show up to your event,

608
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 3: I'm like, listen, Macy's been there for you this entire time,

609
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 3: and I'm like, you could have at least texted her

610
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 3: and at least said hey, I'm not coming to the

611
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 3: show or to your you know, to your launch. And

612
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 3: I was like, that's it. I'm done, you know, done

613
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 3: with wit And then but then the receipts came out

614
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 3: that I just we just found out about.

615
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 2: So did she text you?

616
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 5: Like?

617
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,959
Speaker 3: What was the when you said like she didn't you know?

618
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,679
Speaker 3: Was it more like, well, how did that edit together?

619
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, I'll give you the context behind it, because

620
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,439
Speaker 5: in my interviews, I was saying she didn't text me

621
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 5: like the day of the event to like say anything,

622
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 5: and she did text me like as you can see

623
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 5: from that text message before like four days before, and

624
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 5: when she texted me, I like had I was filming,

625
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 5: so like I saw the text and I was like

626
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,679
Speaker 5: pissed because we were filming, like brother, It's like, oh,

627
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 5: should follow, and I was like blah blah blah. And

628
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:40,919
Speaker 5: then I see a text of her p I was like, hey,

629
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 5: why don't follow everyone that's like texting her on camera,

630
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 5: Like I didn't really want anyone to know what's going

631
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 5: on because there are a lot of things that I

632
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:50,640
Speaker 5: kept off camera obviously for like respect for her. And

633
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 5: and then she like was being kind of rude back

634
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,719
Speaker 5: to me. I was like okay, and then it was like, hey,

635
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,160
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna come to your vent kind of thing.

636
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 5: And I was like, this is so epped up, like

637
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 5: and I saw that. But here's the thing is Whitney

638
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 5: she's very impulsive. I'm not doing this, how I am

639
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 5: doing this? Like she changes her mind very often. That's

640
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,199
Speaker 5: kind of how she's always been. So I read that

641
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 5: text and I was like, not one of my filmings.

642
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 5: I don't want to respond and I don't want to

643
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 5: tell the girls what you just said because I kned

644
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 5: they would be pissed. I really didn't want to have

645
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 5: to air it out on camera. So I felt that

646
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,120
Speaker 5: was respectful of me to do. And then number two,

647
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 5: I was like, I feel like she probably will change

648
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 5: her mind. And then number three, I also feel like

649
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,880
Speaker 5: she I think she wanted me to like not beg

650
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 5: her to come to be like no, Whitney, like please,

651
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,199
Speaker 5: I really want you there, and I'm like, I'm not

652
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 5: going to do that, Like I've already had her back

653
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 5: the whole time. I've been such a good friend, and like,

654
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 5: the one thing you can do for me is to

655
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,880
Speaker 5: sup pour me at my event. Even if you walked

656
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 5: from the door said hi and left, that would be fine.

657
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,199
Speaker 5: But like, so that's why I was like, I'm just

658
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 5: going to see what she does and see if she comes,

659
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:47,919
Speaker 5: because that will show me her true colors. And I

660
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 5: don't want to text her back to like, you know,

661
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 5: try to make her feel guilty or anything like she

662
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:54,360
Speaker 5: should want to come on her own.

663
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would have hurt my feelings absolutely.

664
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I think that makes sense, Like you still

665
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 6: thought that she would probably show up because she is

666
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 6: obviously very impulsive, and it sounds like she was saying

667
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 6: that's going to a rise out of you, like you said,

668
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 6: and I feel.

669
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 5: Like it was. I honestly feel like it was really rude,

670
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 5: because like she knew how hard I've been working in

671
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 5: this business, like it's been the works for two years

672
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 5: before the show was even a thing, before the scandal,

673
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,360
Speaker 5: Like it's been a long time coming, and she knew

674
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 5: how important it supposed to be, how hard I've worked

675
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,679
Speaker 5: get to get it launched on the show too, and

676
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 5: like we had so much enough filming and like things

677
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 5: like that. So I feel like it was like ROOTIU

678
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 5: to do that, even feel like my mental health like

679
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 5: going into the event, like now I have to worry

680
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 5: about Whitney when I should only have to worry about

681
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 5: like my business and like the success of my launch.

682
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 5: So now I have all these things going on and

683
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 5: like how do I How are the girls going to

684
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 5: find out about it too, and like it's gonna be

685
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 5: a whole drama thing. I don't want drama right now,

686
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 5: Like I just want to focus on launching the business.

687
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 5: And so it really contributed to like you know, really

688
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 5: like mentally getting to me as well. So I feel

689
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 5: like that was kind of messed up.

690
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 6: I don't want to change the subject, but I don't

691
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 6: want to necessarily not talk about this because me and

692
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 6: Janna really disagree on this, but I have.

693
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 4: To ask, Oh, okaygree we do. Okay, so it's not

694
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 4: that big.

695
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 6: But okay, So as Mormons, you don't drink alcohol, you're

696
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 6: not supposed to drink alcohol. Correct, So y'all are big

697
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 6: into sodaes? Yes, okay, but this has been all the

698
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 6: producers and all of us have been texting all day

699
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 6: about this because I love me some diet coke and

700
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 6: they just really like to harp on me about it.

701
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 6: But how can y'all have sodas with caffeine if you

702
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 6: can't have coffee?

703
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 5: I mean, I wish I made an answer to this,

704
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 5: because I really don't like we're always just been told

705
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 5: like no alcohol, drugs, coffee, tea does like are always

706
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 5: in the things and there's no like in our scripture

707
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 5: it says like to not have hot drinks. But no

708
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 5: one really knows how to interpret that. Is it temperature?

709
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 5: Is it like oh, alcohol's hawk? Is it burns when

710
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,239
Speaker 5: it goes down? Like? What is it like? And to

711
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 5: be honest, I've never heard a solid answer on it. So,

712
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 5: and here's the thing too, is back then when this

713
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 5: like was a thing like freaky, Like I don't one

714
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 5: hundreds of years ago when they was like hey, like

715
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 5: don't do this. They didn't have so back then. So

716
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 5: I feel like as time has progress, it's like I

717
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 5: feel like there isn't a rule on it because like

718
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 5: soda wasn't a thing back then, like they didn't have

719
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 5: something they had like coffee and tea and the water. Right,

720
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 5: so I think, like I personally feel like hopefully over

721
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,479
Speaker 5: time that will change because I feel like it's an

722
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 5: interesting role considering that like coffee is like a bean,

723
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 5: you know, I drink coffee like, but I don't think

724
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 5: it's a big deal, whereas like soda synthetic, right, like

725
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 5: why are we we want chemicals? Who don't want this more? Next?

726
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 5: So like it doesn't make sense, and like if caffeine

727
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 5: isn't the problem, and like what is no one truly

728
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 5: los gotcha?

729
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 4: So it's not about the caffeine. Okay, So that makes sense.

730
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,959
Speaker 3: Well, and forgive my ignorance too, But when was this written?

731
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,479
Speaker 3: Like how long ago was all these rules written?

732
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 5: I wish I knew, but I think it was like eighteen.

733
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 4: Hundred, right, like a lot.

734
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I I didn't realize the benefits of the coffee back.

735
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 6: Out of interpretations of the Bible and different things like

736
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 6: change over time. Okay, sorry, I just really needed to

737
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 6: know that you, like, I.

738
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 5: Really wish I had as like.

739
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 4: Okay, back to the drama of the show.

740
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 3: Okay, a few more questions about the show, because something

741
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,959
Speaker 3: hit home for both of us because I was in Well,

742
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 3: I've been in just a bunch of unhealthy relationships, but

743
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 3: one being my last ex husband who had multiple affairs

744
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 3: on me. And Catherine is you know, first hand witness

745
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 3: and having to be in conversations, uncomfortable conversations, you know,

746
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 3: with us when we're you know, they're fighting and she's

747
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 3: trying to be like leave him, you know, and again

748
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 3: I've got I have two kids with him, and so

749
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 3: there were times when I thought of you in the

750
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 3: situation with Macy that Macy was in, and I guess,

751
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 3: I mean, I think my first question is, well, how

752
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 3: have you seen him maybe change now that he's a dad?

753
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 2: Has it?

754
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 3: Have you seen it get better maybe? Or or do

755
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 3: still kind of have that disdain for him?

756
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: Yeah?

757
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 5: I would say like we are on better terms than

758
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 5: we were before. But I will say it's like, definitely

759
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 5: he's improved. I definitely think they're working on things. They

760
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 5: do a lot of therapy, but again I'm not seeing

761
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 5: what's happening behind closed doors. I don't feel like Taylor's

762
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,719
Speaker 5: been as open with their relationship as she was in

763
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 5: the past with me. And that's something that like I

764
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 5: worried about when I would see about speak my mind

765
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 5: because like from someone I have also been in an

766
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 5: abusive relationship, but I know their relationship isn't like mine was,

767
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 5: but like there are certain red flags that carry over,

768
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 5: right that I recognize, and I wouldn't tell anyone when

769
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 5: I was going through things, right, So like I was worried.

770
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 5: I always have worried, like without all my friendships, you know,

771
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 5: And I was happy that she would tailing about things

772
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 5: that were going on. So of course we got to

773
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 5: feel this way because you're literally tented to me about

774
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 5: things that he was doing. And I really, I mean,

775
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 5: it seems like things have gotten better, but again, like

776
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 5: I wouldn't know because I feel like she hasn't been

777
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 5: open with me in the last i don't know, seven

778
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 5: eight months with their relation, Like we still talk with

779
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 5: ways you don't talk about like their relationship, you know,

780
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 5: so like it seems like it's.

781
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 2: Well because she knows what you're going to say, you know, like, yeah,

782
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 2: that's not a great sign.

783
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, because when you stop you because I always knew

784
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 3: and it's not that I knew I could always go

785
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 3: to Catherine and tell her things, and but I also

786
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 3: knew what she would say. Yeah, because when I look

787
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 3: at it, and then when I look at because there's

788
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 3: a lot that I can relate to with Taylor because

789
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 3: I've been in an abuse of relationships to in my past,

790
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 3: and so I look at it and I'm like, the

791
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 3: situation that was in the garage, I don't I don't

792
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 3: care if you were throwing twelve stools at her at him,

793
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 3: like you don't. He doesn't put your hands ever, like

794
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 3: on you or or attempt to block you or whatever.

795
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 3: I don't know the situation. I obviously wasn't in their

796
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 3: only saw the stuff, but it was triggering to even

797
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 3: like even if you're in that situation, that's not the

798
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 3: relationship you should be and that's not a healthy relationship.

799
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 3: There's and so it's then watching everything and then the

800
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 3: cheating and the lies, and I'm like, oh my God,

801
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 3: like it's like I just want to like be like girl,

802
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 3: like this is not the direction, but you have to

803
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 3: walk through all the steps and the when you're your friends,

804
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 3: they know that it's also not right, but you don't

805
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 3: want to believe it until you've hit the last, you know,

806
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 3: rock bottom with it.

807
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,399
Speaker 5: That was like what was frustrating to me, like going

808
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 5: into the show, and I was I'm not saying I

809
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,280
Speaker 5: want to showed to make Dakota look bad in any way,

810
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 5: but I feel like Taylor got so much pay and

811
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 5: crap for like everything transpired in their relationship. And I

812
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 5: think I said it at the scene We're looking for plants,

813
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 5: where I was like, Dakota looks like this innocent little angel,

814
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 5: but he's not. And that's like what upset me as

815
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 5: her friend, is like you look bad to everyone in

816
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 5: the public when they really don't know what like is

817
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 5: actually going on behind the scene. And so I'm not

818
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 5: saying I'm glad that he looks a certain way, but

819
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 5: like I'm glad that people now understand that Taylor is

820
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 5: human and like it doesn't it's not just for like

821
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 5: it goes both ways. And I think like they obviously

822
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 5: both have some issues. They had to work through, and

823
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 5: I really hope that like it is getting better. I

824
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 5: don't know, to be honest, but like I know that

825
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 5: they both got a therapy together and separately, So I'm

826
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 5: saying that like that has changed. I mean, to me,

827
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 5: he seems like chiller easier. I get along fine with

828
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 5: him in person. Again, I don't know what's going on

829
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:06,280
Speaker 5: the box in the scenes though.

830
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 3: Right, I know, because I just like I I know

831
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 3: again she was maybe the big first villain, but I

832
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 3: like there's just a piece of tailor I just love,

833
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 3: you know, And I just.

834
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 5: I think and that's like where we're like good friends

835
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 5: because like I could see myself and her in certain

836
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 5: in certain ways. She's also human. I've done so many

837
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 5: like I've had so many mistakes, Like who am I

838
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 5: to judge her even though her a different than mine,

839
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 5: Like she's a great person at her coren I'm glove

840
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 5: that the show show that because we were like, wow,

841
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 5: like I actually really like her, and I'm like, yeah,

842
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 5: seeing how she really is, you.

843
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 2: Know, and I exactly on the show.

844
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:39,479
Speaker 4: Yeah.

845
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 6: Well, and sometimes two people can just be so toxic

846
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,399
Speaker 6: for each other and so unhealthy for each other. It's

847
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 6: like her ex like I actually loved him as a person,

848
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 6: you know, I considered him a friend. But that doesn't

849
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 6: mean I'm gonna sit here and say what y'all are

850
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 6: doing is okay, because it's not.

851
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's going to be great with someone else, but

852
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 3: like we were not great together, and it's like, that's awesome.

853
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 3: They're doing the work and stuff and hopefully, and I

854
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 3: don't believe that every relationship is completely doomed, yes, with

855
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 3: those things. Having said that, yeah, it's a long road

856
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,879
Speaker 3: to recovery for both of them together.

857
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 5: It is. And you know, like again I always says,

858
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 5: I wish them the best. I hope they can work out,

859
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 5: Like the kids together is like, I hope that they

860
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 5: can you know, work together as long as they're both

861
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 5: happy together, you know, like, because no one wants to

862
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 5: be in a relationship, no matter what situation it is,

863
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 5: and not be happy. So I'm really hoping that they

864
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 5: can work it out.

865
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 3: Speaking of the happy though, is generally like staying in

866
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 3: New York because that makes me sad too, that whole

867
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 3: situation where I just she just.

868
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,240
Speaker 2: I don't know, it just makes me sad.

869
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 5: No, I know, I think so they decided not to

870
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 5: do New York and they went to Arizona for med school.

871
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 5: So I don't know what those situations. I know it's

872
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 5: closer though, So I mean like from what I would

873
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 5: hear from her that she would want to come back,

874
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 5: you know and like hang out with us and stuff,

875
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 5: I don't know the full situation, To be honest, I

876
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 5: will say she's always been like this in her relationship.

877
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 5: She takes like seven business days to respond to text.

878
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:07,879
Speaker 5: So it's like sometimes she's a kid, like where you been,

879
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 5: Like that's just jen Like she's just like kind of

880
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 5: doing her own thing. But obviously we all want her happiness.

881
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 5: I've have a lot of people being like hey, now,

882
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 5: like interject with Zach now right, because they seem to

883
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 5: do it with Dakota. I was like it was a

884
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 5: different situation though, because I've known Taylor longer and like

885
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 5: in friendship longer, so like it was a different situation.

886
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 5: Also because Zach and Dinner married, And I think it's

887
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 5: a stickier situation because like if you're dating someone, it's

888
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 5: like okay, great, like break up, there's no issues, whereas

889
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 5: if it's like you're married, like that's a whole process

890
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 5: and like everyone's gonna want to work through that more

891
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 5: in depth before they just call it quit. So I've

892
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 5: gotten some feedback where it's like, hey, now deal with Jen.

893
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 5: I'm like, Okay, I don't want to get involved in

894
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 5: any more relationships at this point, Like I feel like

895
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 5: it's causing me a lot of stress. And I think

896
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 5: I see to sit this one out for a sec.

897
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's all bad for her.

898
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 5: I will get my opinion though, Well.

899
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:57,720
Speaker 2: I will say this is really cute.

900
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 3: So my husband, so you know, obviously the bigs were

901
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 3: at my ex husband's house, and so we just have

902
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 3: I have a ten month old baby, and so I

903
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 3: was binging this past weekend and and Alan is kind

904
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 3: of in the background, just peeking in. I just love

905
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 3: how he's always like all these shows and then like

906
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 3: I find him, you know. And so he actually watched

907
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 3: the season finale with me because it was cute. He's like,

908
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 3: you can watch the show tonight.

909
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 2: I'm like yeah.

910
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 3: I was like, go like workout or whatever. It's it's

911
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 3: you know, it's just going to be an hour. He'said, no,

912
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 3: so go to I think I'm good. I'll just come

913
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 3: sit on the couch with you. And he was like

914
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 3: totally in but he loved your husband the most. Oh yeah,

915
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 3: but I feel like we also didn't get to see

916
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 3: much of y'all's together, So yeah, is I guess is

917
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 3: there going to be a season two? It seems like it,

918
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 3: I mean, and also will you show more? Were you

919
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:45,720
Speaker 3: trying to keep that more private?

920
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,439
Speaker 5: Season two is confirmed yet? I mean, I think it's

921
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 5: looking truly likely, like seeing how all the show did,

922
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 5: so I would be shocked if there wasn't. As far

923
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,240
Speaker 5: as my husband goes, he's like literally like an angel,

924
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 5: Like I dated some interesting men and then like it

925
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:02,399
Speaker 5: was hard for me to even commit to him because

926
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 5: he was like so good and like I met him

927
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 5: when I was a single mom too, and like he

928
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 5: was only twenty actually when we met, and like full

929
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 5: on took the role as like dad. Like he's just

930
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 5: like I really feel like he's won a million. Like

931
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 5: there's not a lot of men like him, especially like

932
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 5: that young, who are willing to take on that role.

933
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 5: But like not mean no pressure on my end. He's

934
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 5: just like I want to like if anything, he was

935
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 5: chasing me out like get away, you know, So it

936
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 5: was like he like healthy love for a second. As

937
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:29,800
Speaker 5: far as like my family being on the show. I

938
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 5: definitely tried to keep things more private. However, we did

939
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 5: film together like multiple times. It was just cut like

940
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 5: I don't think curious about toxic him now about to

941
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 5: like shame any else's husbands or anything, but like he's

942
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 5: just like anyone. They love him, Like he's just like

943
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 5: so like good, so like I don't know pure.

944
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:51,399
Speaker 3: Right, Well, it's kind of like I feel like late

945
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 3: like Layla Liz, I don't name she, Like she didn't

946
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 3: get a lot of airtime either, no, you know what

947
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 3: I mean, Like towards the end, she did, but I

948
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 3: feel like she probably didn't bring enough drama or whatever

949
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 3: they want.

950
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 5: This didn't either me. It's interesting, Oh yeah Cayla are

951
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 5: like best friends, but I didn't show that. I'll deal

952
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 5: look like we're close friends and I'm like.

953
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 2: I would not have picked that up.

954
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 5: Yeah at all, my best friend since like twenty twenty.

955
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,720
Speaker 5: So I was like, this is so interesting, like watching

956
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 5: the edit and it's like I'm Whitney's my best friend,

957
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 5: Like well, okay, like we were treating of actually like

958
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 5: we have now us three all the time, and it

959
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 5: didn't really show the fallout of that at all. So

960
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 5: it's interesting watching to edit too, because I'm like, you

961
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:27,760
Speaker 5: was like, oh, so, what is your best friend?

962
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that's so fun.

963
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 3: This is funny, but one really bad. I don't really know,

964
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 3: but can you can ask it. But the funny thing

965
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 3: was is at the very end, Alan goes, well, why

966
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 3: is she calling her?

967
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 2: I was like, I.

968
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 4: Would call her too, all of us would.

969
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 2: I would let me.

970
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 3: Tell you the reasons why. I was like, because she's

971
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 3: probably been in the same situation and that is the

972
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 3: girl's girl being like, this is what it is, you know,

973
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 3: So do we do.

974
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 6: We get to know more about this phone call? Can

975
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 6: we talk about it?

976
00:40:54,840 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 5: I mean I can't really say much. He isn't two you.

977
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 5: We'll see it, like assuming we get one, because it's

978
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 5: definitely gonna happen.

979
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 4: But I was dying to know about that.

980
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 3: But I figured, yeah, okay, I think we should just

981
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 3: talk now about baby mama yet so it is tell

982
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 3: us everything. And also I got to say too, you know, congratulations.

983
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 3: You said you started this before the show, but this

984
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 3: is probably was also helped the business too, which I think,

985
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 3: you know, as much as reality can be tough, it

986
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 3: also can grow a business.

987
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 2: Insane. Yeah, I know.

988
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 5: So I've been working on it since like twenty twenty one,

989
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:34,760
Speaker 5: so like it was kind of like a long time coming.

990
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:36,399
Speaker 5: And then like when we got the opportunity to the show,

991
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 5: I was like, well, I better gooffle it up and

992
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 5: like get it pushed out. Like. But we had been

993
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,439
Speaker 5: working on formulating and doing everything for a while and

994
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 5: I did idf to con see with my husband, and

995
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 5: during that time, I was like, why are you doing

996
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 5: something specific like for before I get pregnant? Do I

997
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 5: just like, oh, just start toking g at prenatal And

998
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 5: so I was like I want something specific for before

999
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 5: and something specific per after, because like I went to

1000
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 5: the doctor actor had her and you're like, just take

1001
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 5: your preena, like you take your prenele, and even then,

1002
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 5: like the preatle I was taking, so I just handsaking

1003
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 5: pills when I was pregnant. Was like this random one

1004
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 5: of the target and it has like all the synthetic

1005
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 5: like colors and sweeteners, and I was like, this is

1006
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 5: like so dumb. So one make thing that was specific

1007
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 5: for like my journey, I guess. And I was like

1008
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 5: I hope other women want this too, And so we

1009
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,240
Speaker 5: made our gummy is like our We have a fertile gummy,

1010
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 5: which also like you can take it if you don't

1011
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 5: want to get pregnant because it's helpful for like PMS

1012
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 5: symptoms and overall reproductive help. And then we have a

1013
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 5: pregnancy gummy and then a postpartum gummy, which is like

1014
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 5: helpful with like milk supply, water retention after birth, and

1015
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 5: obviously your hormones. And it has like all the necessary

1016
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 5: vitamines your body needs to like help your body, all

1017
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 5: of them do. And then they're free from artificial colors, sweeteners, dyes,

1018
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 5: and they're vegan non gmocal in freuse, Like they're really clean.

1019
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 5: They have a little bit of sugar in them because

1020
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 5: like we want them to taste good as well, but

1021
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 5: like everything is like very clean and really excited how

1022
00:42:58,040 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 5: everything went, and like to be able to lack at

1023
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 5: the show was an amazing opportunity. So because people don't

1024
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 5: realize like it's a small business, Like it's me and

1025
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 5: one other person, and like we're grind into like do

1026
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 5: the social the website, like the customer service, and it's

1027
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,879
Speaker 5: like it is such a new field and like being

1028
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,760
Speaker 5: an influencer and so I feel like it's been a grind.

1029
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 5: Like the shows definitely helped with the exposure and the sales,

1030
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 5: and so super grateful. I'm really hoping we can expand

1031
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,240
Speaker 5: into like more products as well.

1032
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm so happy for you.

1033
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 3: I love you sweet, I know Sam.

1034
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 5: I'm going to send to you guys some you're ad

1035
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 5: just Nelson.

1036
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 3: Yes, please would absolutely love Okay, So that's and then

1037
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 3: they can find it. Where is it baby mama dot com?

1038
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 1: Or where isabmama dot co?

1039
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 5: Is that co on Instagram and TikTok as well as

1040
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 5: baby mama dot co?

1041
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 3: All right, was there anything that you want people to

1042
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,720
Speaker 3: know from the show, Like, what is the biggest takeaway

1043
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 3: that you want?

1044
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 5: I think for me is like, even going into the show,

1045
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 5: my purpose was like I want someone to watch the

1046
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:10,879
Speaker 5: show and be able to relate to at least one

1047
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,240
Speaker 5: of us because I think, I mean, they didn't highlight

1048
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 5: it in season one, but all of us have pretty

1049
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,479
Speaker 5: unique backstories and I really hope season two can shed

1050
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 5: light on that and people can feel inspired, whether they're

1051
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 5: in a relationship where maybe they don't feel like they

1052
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 5: can speak up or they can breathe the breadwinner, they

1053
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 5: don't feel like they can work or you know, I

1054
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 5: tell people to watch it and be able to relate

1055
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 5: to somebody and feel like they're not as, they're not alone,

1056
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 5: you know, and like inspire people. You know. I'm really

1057
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 5: hoping again like people can see as on a deeper

1058
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 5: level in season two, because I think them even more

1059
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 5: so to be able to relate to us when they

1060
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 5: see the core.

1061
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 3: Of who we are, right and I think too, like

1062
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 3: what I got from the message was that yes there's drama,

1063
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 3: but that your friendships and the women around you can

1064
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 3: can help you not only grow but have fun and

1065
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 3: love and absolute port Yeah.

1066
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 5: Like all of us we support each other if we

1067
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 5: need someone, if he's going to talk to, Like we

1068
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 5: have within our friendship a good community. I think that's

1069
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 5: what's different about the show is like going into we

1070
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 5: were all friends and shows you're castid like individually, we

1071
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 5: were friends going into this. So even doing that show

1072
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 5: was like, oh, why I wouldn't it want to do

1073
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 5: it Like it's we're already like together making mom talk videos,

1074
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 5: Like why not make a show of it and show

1075
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 5: who we really are behind the scenes, And so I

1076
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 5: think that's what's cool about the show is like it's

1077
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 5: just showing who we are at a different level.

1078
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's so I think like makes it sad

1079
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 3: about the certain aspects of you know, how the relationships

1080
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 3: then went down, Like Whitney, It's like you were defending

1081
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 3: her with the RSV video and you know all those situations,

1082
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 3: so it's you know, then to have it kind of

1083
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 3: end up here can be disheartening. But also you have

1084
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 3: a group of girls that also have your back too,

1085
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 3: like you're not in and alone, You're not the only

1086
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 3: person cast it out on the island.

1087
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, and exactly, and that situation too, it's just hard

1088
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 5: because mean what we have in friends and so like

1089
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 5: it's it was just hard doing because I wasn't expecting

1090
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 5: what happened to happen in general. And again, I never

1091
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 5: want her to feel like isolated or like left out,

1092
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 5: because I wouldn'tant that for anyone, doesn't matter who it is.

1093
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 5: I won't want them to feel bullied or anything. And

1094
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 5: I do feel bad sincerely because she is getting a

1095
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 5: lot of mean stuff online.

1096
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 3: Why do you think she's getting the heat? Like if

1097
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 3: you can be like this is the thing, why do

1098
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 3: you think she's getting the heat?

1099
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:23,959
Speaker 5: I will say it I think it's because she didn't

1100
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 5: take a lot of accountability in the show, like in

1101
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 5: her interviews and stuff like it seemed like she I

1102
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 5: will say, she kind of play a little bit where

1103
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 5: it's like, okay, like if you hurt someone and like

1104
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 5: maybe you didn't mean to like maybe apologize like and

1105
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 5: you know, be like hey, how can we see to eye?

1106
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 5: Like seek to understand before being understood. And I think

1107
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,399
Speaker 5: that is something that she lacked a little bit. But again,

1108
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 5: like it's hard because I love to give like everyone

1109
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,800
Speaker 5: grace and the benefit of a doubt, like she is pregnant,

1110
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 5: Like I don't know like how I would feel pregnant,

1111
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 5: Like I know things like your hormones are crazy stuff

1112
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 5: because I will say, like what happened on the show

1113
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 5: and how things inspired like I hadn't really seen her

1114
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 5: like that before, but I've never seen her pregnant until now.

1115
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 5: So I was like, well, maybe like her hormones just

1116
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 5: a little bit extra because there were certain things we

1117
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 5: film that were covered. She was like crying a lot

1118
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:11,839
Speaker 5: in the beginning. I was like, are you okay? Like

1119
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 5: I've never seen her like that, So I wonder too

1120
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 5: if she's under a lot of emotional stress, and I'm like,

1121
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 5: at the end of the day, I think when he's

1122
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:22,399
Speaker 5: a good person in her heart, but like she has

1123
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 5: some improvements to make and we all.

1124
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 2: Do you know, so we all do.

1125
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1126
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 5: I really hope that people lighten up on her.

1127
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,720
Speaker 3: Do you think mom Talk will survive without her? Because

1128
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 3: she seems to think that it won't because she is

1129
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 3: always a good luck without me.

1130
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 2: So I'm just curious. Do you think it would survive

1131
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 2: without her?

1132
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 5: Yes, unfortunately for that situation, But I love won't Talk

1133
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 5: will survive in general. I'm just kidding, that's what you know.

1134
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 3: It was absolutely it absolutely will. When you guys, If

1135
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 3: you guys ever come to Nashville, can we do a

1136
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:54,280
Speaker 3: mom talk please?

1137
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, yeah, my god. I've been wanting to

1138
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 5: come to Nashville so bad. Like my husband and I

1139
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 5: both gets on our list.

1140
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 2: Well, Alan loves your husband, so just come up. Well,

1141
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 2: people all go out and hang out.

1142
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:06,320
Speaker 5: He would love that. Like, my husband wants to go

1143
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,760
Speaker 5: to Nashville so bad because we got into country music

1144
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 5: in the last couple of years. If you've got to

1145
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 5: go to Nashville, I'm like, I want to. I want

1146
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 5: to do it.

1147
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 3: Just so fun to be a last Well you are

1148
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 3: invited anytime.

1149
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 2: Let me know.

1150
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 3: I'll slide into your DM right now and we can

1151
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 3: perfect get it going. But thanks for coming on.

1152
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 2: This was so fun.

1153
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:25,720
Speaker 3: You're so sweet, and I just what I love about

1154
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 3: you is that at the end of the day, and

1155
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 3: that's like you just want everyone to be happy. Can

1156
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 3: we all just kind of get along? We all have

1157
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 3: our stuff, we all have to grow, we have to

1158
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:34,839
Speaker 3: work on this, and I think and we're all human

1159
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 3: too at the end of the day.

1160
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 2: So yes, I just I love that about you.

1161
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 5: Thank you. I know. I think we're all just hopefully

1162
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 5: trying our best and just trying to survive this crazy life.

1163
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 5: And I hope that everyone can have grace for anything

1164
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 5: they do, because I think most people have good inttention so.

1165
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:54,919
Speaker 3: A thief, So yes, absolutely, and everyone go get baby mama. Yes,

1166
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 3: good stuff, all right, thanks girl.

1167
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 5: Thank you so much. It's so nice.

1168
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 6: Chatting nice to me.

1169
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,959
Speaker 3: Oh, I just love her love She's my favorite. She's

1170
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 3: so great. It would be so fun. We have to

1171
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 3: do a mom.

1172
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 6: Talking and she don't you love it when you like

1173
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 6: for you, like when you love someone and they're like

1174
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 6: like you love me.

1175
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:19,399
Speaker 2: I know, because I'm like, she probably has no idea

1176
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 2: who I am. It's always really fun.

1177
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 4: When that happens.

1178
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: You.

1179
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:24,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's great, She's so good.

1180
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 3: I do feel bad about because that would be hard

1181
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 3: to have a friendship and then not go as expected.

1182
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, and she's still being like, she's being honest about

1183
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 6: the situation, and she's being honest about Whitney. But she's

1184
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 6: also still being kind to her, you know what I mean.

1185
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 6: She still has a way.

1186
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 3: She says her peace, but then also says, but we

1187
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 3: all have our stuff.

1188
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 6: Like yeah, and she's you know, said what she's disagreed with.

1189
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 6: But still, you know, it'll be interesting. And I hadn't

1190
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 6: really thought about this, but she was pregnant, and I

1191
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 6: wonder if she would have acted as you know, sometimes

1192
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 6: we act.

1193
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,760
Speaker 4: A little different when we're pregnant. Yeah, the hormones. Interesting.

1194
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 3: I was very defensive when I was pregnant. Yeah, more

1195
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:04,959
Speaker 3: defensive as a normal.

1196
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 4: Yeah. I just hope there's a season.

1197
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 3: Too, Hannah, how did you think that one? What were

1198
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:13,280
Speaker 3: your thoughts?

1199
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 1: I hope she's great. She's so sweet, you guys, But

1200
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:20,320
Speaker 1: I do I I like what she said about Whitney.

1201
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 1: I think it does make you see Whitney and like

1202
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 1: a little different, like definitely the presence you think, but

1203
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: I also just feel bad, like I just don't think

1204
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,760
Speaker 1: anybody should be getting all the heat.

1205
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can only imagine.

1206
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 3: That's what's so hard because you are signing up for

1207
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 3: people to have strong opinions one way or the other.

1208
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 3: But at the same time, you don't have to have

1209
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 3: You can say I don't like this person, but you

1210
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 3: don't have to be like me.

1211
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 6: I just think people think that they have their right.

1212
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 6: But it's like you could also just keep scrolling, like

1213
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 6: I not agree with something, but I don't have.

1214
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:52,879
Speaker 3: To leave a comment. That's just what the craziest thing

1215
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 3: to me. Yeah, but agree text your girlfriends like yes,

1216
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 3: like I did. I said the longest voice memo to

1217
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 3: Catherine ended up she not get it. But I'm not

1218
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:05,280
Speaker 3: going to say this on because it's you know, yeah,

1219
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 3: I can say it to my close friends. I would

1220
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:09,720
Speaker 3: never say because I wouldn't want that person to actually

1221
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 3: hear my random thoughts of this fun reality show.

1222
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, do you guys think that she maybe

1223
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 1: wanted to be the villain of the show to get

1224
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:19,800
Speaker 1: the airtime, because like you said maybe a couple of

1225
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 1: the girls were cut out or just didn't get a

1226
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 1: lot of airtime, So like, could this have been her

1227
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:28,760
Speaker 1: because she's still kind of on social media carrying this persona,

1228
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:30,839
Speaker 1: this attitude that she get through the show, So like

1229
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 1: maybe this is her way of like, I got the

1230
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 1: airtime people are talking about me.

1231
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybebe I don't know. I couldn't do it. I'd

1232
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,439
Speaker 3: be so well gotted by the comments it will say.

1233
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 6: But it would be interesting to see what happens for

1234
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,240
Speaker 6: a next season for people like Leyla and different people

1235
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,720
Speaker 6: that didn't get enough. Do they try and bring drama

1236
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 6: to the show to get more airtime next season, which

1237
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 6: you see a lot in Housewife?

1238
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 3: Well house is that I'm saying, if you don't know drama,

1239
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 3: you're going to be cut off the show, right, I.

1240
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 6: Know I'm out if I don't cause so the next

1241
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 6: season it's like, Oh, they're so annoying because they just

1242
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 6: won't stop trying to cause the drama.

1243
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, it'd be interesting to see if it's the same.

1244
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 3: I don't have thick enough skin to ever go any

1245
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 3: because I mean, like even like when Hannah sends these

1246
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 3: clips of things for Instagram, like oh, I sound like

1247
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:11,879
Speaker 3: a baby.

1248
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 2: Don't post that or don't.

1249
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 6: We Well, we talked about reality shows before, and like

1250
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,760
Speaker 6: you know, every time they've come up, you know whatever,

1251
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 6: you're like, hey, you would do it right, And I'm like, yeah, no,

1252
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 6: I hate to tell you, there's no way I am

1253
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 6: actually ever doing that.

1254
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I definitely have like executive producer, like all

1255
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 3: editing rise and to make even then even when you

1256
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 3: edit it to what you think, then you're still going to.

1257
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 4: Get, you're still gonna get. Yeah. No, I couldn't do it,

1258
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 4: I know.

1259
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,359
Speaker 2: Anyways, that was fun. Thanks for getting her fun love.

1260
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course she was very all

1261
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 3: Right, ladies, see you next week.