1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Tuesday edition Clay Travis buck 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 1: Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. 4 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: A lot to dive into throughout the course of today's program. 5 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: At about an hour, we're gonna be joined by Alex Barnson. 6 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 1: I think you guys will enjoy that as we talk 7 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: about the latest COVID data. Today is the eightieth anniversary 8 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: of the attack on Pearl Harbor. Buck and I will 9 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: discuss that a bit as we are both history nerds, 10 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: and it is an amazing and captivating story eighty years 11 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: to the day since that happened, almost eighty years to 12 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: the hour, I believe. As we as we move across 13 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: this show, we're also going to talk about a swimmer 14 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,279 Speaker 1: that we touched on a little bit on Friday at 15 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:58,319 Speaker 1: the University of Pennsylvania who, after three years swimming as 16 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: a man for the Ivy League team there at Pennsylvania, 17 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 1: has now decided to swim as a woman and over 18 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: the weekend won the five hundred race by nearly fifteen seconds, 19 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: which is an unbelievable story when it comes to really 20 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: the future of women's athletics. If biological men can just 21 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: decide to become women and compete against women. We'll talk 22 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: about that and more. But right off the top, some 23 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: good news. The omicron fear seems to be subsiding. I 24 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: like to look a lot of times to the stock market, 25 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: which is surging back to essentially where it was before, 26 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: and the idea that this was going to be some 27 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: sort of debilitating variant coming out of South Africa as 28 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: it spread around the world does not appear to be 29 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: holding up with much substance. There is a good story 30 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: that Buck and I will get into about exactly how 31 00:01:56,080 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: transmissible it is that one person could potentially give it 32 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: to one hundred and twenty people, and that all of 33 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: them would have mostly a mild version of COVID. We 34 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: will discuss potentially a mutation has actually worked in favor. 35 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: But right off the top here I want to have 36 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: a discussion with Buck about this. The data continues to 37 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: come in, and at this point I think is virtually 38 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: unassailable that if you are unvaccinated, you have virtually the 39 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 1: same risk of spreading COVID as someone who is vaccinated. 40 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: And I was thinking about this a lot after we 41 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: talked yesterday Buck to start all the new insane restrictions 42 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: that are being put in place in New York City. 43 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: How is it that we aren't having a real discussion? 44 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:45,679 Speaker 1: And I start off the show today because I know 45 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: a lot of people out there listen to this show, 46 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: as Rush used to say, as show prep for much 47 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: of their own shows. How is it that we're not 48 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 1: having a discussion about the fact that at this point 49 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: in time, and frankly, for the last six months or so, 50 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 1: every one who is unvaccinated is making a calculated decision 51 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: to be unvaccinated. And now that we know, a lot 52 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: of the criticism of the unvaccinated has been, oh my goodness, 53 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: you're gonna make me sicker, You're gonna get me sick, 54 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: because the vaccinated people haven't trusted their vaccines. But but 55 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: now that we know that when you get vaccinated, you 56 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: have a less severe case of COVID if you get 57 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: it from hospitalization or death related issues. But you're no 58 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: more likely necessarily to spread COVID than someone who has not. 59 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: Why don't we just allow people to take their own 60 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: risk and move on and go to one normalcy in 61 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: this country? This is a mirror image of what we've 62 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: seen in the mask debate actually where it starts out 63 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: and when people have their questions about it. And remember 64 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: the early days of masking. Even Fauci said an email, 65 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: we all know, we remember masks don't really do anything 66 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: to stop pandemic spread. And then when the Democrat Party 67 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: and the anti Trump momentum and every thing demanded masking 68 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: as a one and anxiety napkin for people, maybe it 69 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: does something. All these health professionals come forward, you say 70 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: it's great, and the health professionals you say, actually, we 71 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: know that it doesn't really do very much, if anything. 72 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: Cloth mats we're talking about not at nenty five properly 73 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: fitted and worn one hundred percent of the time you're exposed. 74 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 1: That's a different thing. Fauci said that he lied to 75 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: protect supply. So Fauci is an admitted liar. Put that 76 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: aside for a second on a public policy issue, not 77 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: on what he had for breakfast issue. Beyond that, clay, 78 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: they told us in the summer of twenty twenty that 79 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: masking would probably reduce caseload by you know, sixty percent. 80 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: They led us to believe that the places that had 81 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: mask mandates would see enormous and precipitous declines of caseload, 82 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: and it would be so clear, and all the stupid 83 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 1: mask questioners would look so so dumb. And then that 84 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: didn't happen, So then what do they do? Then all 85 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 1: of a sudden it changed from masking the CDC chief 86 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: red Field. Do you remember this guy, another bureaucrat, said masking. 87 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 1: This is what he said. He did have to walk 88 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 1: it back, but he said it to Congress. Masking might 89 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: even be a more effective tool at stopping the virus 90 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: than the vaccine, which was crazy. I mean, everyone who 91 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: heard that said, of this guy's out of it. He 92 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: did walk that back, but how could he say something 93 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 1: so dumb? What I'm getting to here is then it was, well, 94 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 1: maybe it does something, clay, and something is better than nothing. 95 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: Why don't you want to do something? Why don't you 96 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: want to protect grandparents? You must want grandparents to die. 97 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: This is what they did with masks, and it's now 98 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: what they're doing with vaccine mandates too. They dramatically move 99 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: the goalposts. They look at us like we're the crazy 100 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 1: ones who say, hold on, you were wrong, and you're 101 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: changing the game. You're change the rules once again. And 102 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: what their response is is anything that we can do 103 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 1: is valid and necessary, even if it saves you know 104 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: how they say about gun control, Clay, if it saves 105 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: just one life. We have now been reduced by fauciism 106 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: to millions of people who think if it stops just 107 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: one case, one time, maybe it's worth it. They have 108 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 1: completely lost all sense of proportion and risk analysis. That's 109 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: where we are. It is so well said. And remember 110 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 1: Joe Biden, when he took office in January, to go 111 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: back to your masking point, said if everybody would just 112 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 1: wear masks for a hundred days, COVID would be over. 113 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: That's what Joe Biden said in January. It's almost a 114 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: year since Joe Biden took office, and that hasn't been 115 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: reflected at all in the data. But to me, this 116 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: is an important talking point that needs to be spread 117 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: far and wide. If you are choosing to be unvaccinated, 118 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 1: you are almost exclusively a risk to yourself. And I 119 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: haven't heard hardly anyone making this argument, and I think 120 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 1: it's a good one for people out there listening to 121 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: us right now. Look again, I want to reiterate because 122 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 1: inevitably people write articles about what we say on the show, 123 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: the data reflects that if you are a senior citizen, 124 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: if you are over sixty five years old, you should 125 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 1: get the vaccine, you should get poosted, you should do 126 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: everything that you can for your health. Buck and I 127 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: continue to say this for our own parents who are 128 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: over sixty five. Senior citizens are under massively higher risk 129 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: from COVID than younger people are. But if you are deciding, 130 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: and by the way, ninety nine percent of senior citizens 131 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: have gotten at least one shot so far, which is 132 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: an incredible public health success story that almost no one 133 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: talks about. But if you are deciding at this point 134 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: that you will not get the COVID vaccine, that is 135 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: a choice that you are making, and it is primarily 136 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: a risk that you yourself are bearing exclusively, not that 137 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: you are foisting upon others. Because even if you get 138 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: the COVID vaccine, data now reflects that you get and 139 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: spread COVID at roughly the same rate as the unvaccine 140 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: of your risk, but you have the spread the same 141 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: They will not allow that to be a conclusion that 142 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: has widely shared. They'll certainly debate that the apparatus of 143 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: the Fauciites, whatever you want to call it. They will. 144 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: They will fight this tooth and nail right now, and 145 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: they'll think even if the data does reflect what you're saying, 146 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: because the whole, the whole mission has now turned into 147 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: boosterize everybody, right, you gotta get boosts, which is why 148 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: I build the Blasio's walking around acting like he's some 149 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: kind of big hero for the most restrictive measures of 150 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: any place in the entire country in the next two weeks, 151 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: and people are pointing out there was no clay, there 152 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: was no notice for this, there was no preparation for this. Well, 153 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: think about the problem he's making for the new mayor 154 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: who's got to walk in here and immediately decide do 155 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: I resend this or do I enforce this. I gotta 156 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: tell you, everyone I talked to in New York who's 157 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 1: in New York politics is saying, don't expect Eric Adams 158 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: to be some kind of you know, a guy who's 159 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: all about individual choice and freedom. On this issue. He 160 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: may go along with some, not all, of the private 161 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: sector mandates, the one that's that's probably the most it's 162 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: not probably the most. Yeah, but remember they don't care, 163 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: right we are when it comes to COVID, the Libs 164 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: have openly embraced a post constitutional operating procedure. They don't 165 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: care that the CDC deciding whether you can rent out 166 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: your property, whether you can you know, kick somebody out 167 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 1: of your rental property or not, is under their purview. 168 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: They just say, we're gonna do it, right. I mean, 169 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 1: this is now what we're dealing with. And the moment 170 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: you say, hold on, that's not within your authority. We 171 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: have the Constitution, the separation of powers, so that we 172 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: can be clear even in moments of dress, what the 173 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: limitations on state authority may be. Federal you know, big 174 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: states state authority. That's a situation that I think we're 175 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: gonna have to fight against. They want to get their 176 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: way when they get it, and they assume the courts. 177 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 1: By the way, the courts in New York have basically 178 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: upheld vaccine mandates so far in restaurants. So there are 179 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: all these lawsuits we lost. You know, people would say, oh, 180 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna take it to court. Guess who runs a 181 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 1: lot of the you know, gets to who the judges 182 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: are in a lot of the courts in the Blue States, 183 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 1: even at the federal circuit level thanks to Obama and 184 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 1: other presidents, a bunch of libs, a bunch of activists. 185 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: Do you agree with me though, that if we and 186 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: I think our show can be powerful in this because 187 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: a lot of people will follow our lead if we 188 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: can shift the paradigm in some way. We're not going 189 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: to shift it for the far left wing. Don't care 190 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: to your point about constitutionality at all, but if we 191 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: can shift the conversation from you are a risk to me, 192 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: which is the way most in the media are covering 193 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: anybody who is unvaccinated and soon anybody who is unboostered 194 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: to you are a risk to yourself. That changes everything, 195 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 1: because what they've tried to do is argue that the 196 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: unvaccinated are a threat to the larger universe. It isn't 197 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: reflected that that's true based on the day. So this 198 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: is where I can give you. You're bringing to everyone 199 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: now rational view surrounded by people who are also open 200 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: to rational view. Let me take you into the the 201 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 1: deep dark underbelly of blue state America for a second. 202 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 1: Clay their argument, even if they will concede what you're 203 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: saying now, which they will not, certainly not on the 204 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: week's head. They're gonna say, oh, no, the data it's 205 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 1: not clear, it needs more study. They'll do the Fauci dance, right, 206 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: it's always we never knows the same thing they do 207 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: with natural immunity. Oh, we don't know how long it lasts. 208 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: They don't know how long the vaccine lasts. I know. 209 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 1: But anyway, but but but they're going to say, and 210 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:26,959 Speaker 1: this is why I started talking about I went to 211 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 1: that preamo about masks also because I love taking shots 212 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: at how Fauci's a liar and we all know it. 213 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: But put that aside um, they basically now tell you 214 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: that even if masking reduces five percent of spread, worth it. 215 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 1: And what they're going to say now is even a vaccination. 216 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: I mean, you know they still believe by the way 217 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: that it's breakthrough cases are rare. I mean, this is 218 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: this is the official line. And we got to look 219 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: at the data and really crunch it to actually come 220 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 1: up with some numbers here. But even if it were 221 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: clay five percent reduction from vaccination, they would say worth it, 222 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 1: get your shot or else. That's what That's what Blue 223 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: State America has turned into. Unfortunately, that is Unfortunately, I 224 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: do think there's some truth to it, but I am 225 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: intrigued whether we could make that the argument, whether we 226 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: can start to say whether your vaccinated or not is 227 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: primarily a risk to yourself individually. I think it starts 228 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: to shift some of the conversation. I really do next 229 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. By the way, it can be messy 230 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: for markets. Another variant of the COVID is making a mess. 231 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: If you've been following the stock market, at least it 232 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 1: started to come back a little bit. Inflation still a 233 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 1: mess out there. 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They like 261 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: to see the government lead the way. We did that 262 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: with our own public employees, our own public schools. We 263 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 1: proved it works. And then what we also heard from 264 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 1: business leaders is whatever you do, don't let us go 265 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: back to shutdown. Don't let us go backwards. This is 266 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: a preemptive strike. This is to get ahead of something 267 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: that's now threatening us in a new way. You had 268 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: the winter weather, you had the holiday gatherings. Now, Amicron, 269 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: we're getting a lot of warnings here. We'd better be aggressive. 270 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: Even talking about shutdowns should be considered completely insane at 271 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: this point. Welcome back to Clay and Buck. So that's 272 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: the mayor of New York City, for whom I cannot 273 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: find enough pejoratives, and for whom the colorful language that 274 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: I would use in discussions with Clay off air, unfortunately 275 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: cannot be shared on the radio when describing Build A. 276 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: Blasio as the absolute worst mayor, maybe among the worst 277 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: politicians in America too, in terms of decision making and 278 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: what he has done to my once great and proud 279 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: city and hometown of New York. And and here's here's 280 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: what I have to say. First of all, the notion 281 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: that it worked is amazing, considering that we have to 282 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: do other things right now after the mandate went into 283 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: effect in New York in August, because it wasn't good enough. 284 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: So to say that it worked is delusional, because clearly 285 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: it didn't work. What he's really talking about is a 286 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: rolling process of dealing with this forever. But Clay, more 287 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: to the point here, he's essentially saying, you know, nice business. 288 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: He got there to be a shame if something happens 289 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: to it. So of course businesses are gonna be like, well, 290 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: I guess we have to go along with this. You're 291 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: gonna shut us down, never mind the problems of enforcing 292 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: this if the business community in New York doesn't go along. Now, look, 293 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: I know he may be gone a few weeks, but 294 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: he's he's lobbed this political hand grenade on his way 295 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: out the door on purpose to cause all kinds of 296 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: strife and problems. If we have a situation where're gonna 297 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: shut businesses down again, New York won't recover for a decade. 298 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: I mean, no one's going to set up a business here. 299 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: No one's gonna want to be here. And for what, Clay, 300 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: what are they doing? Not only people who live in 301 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: New York, who I feel poorly for, and frankly I 302 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: would have bailed a long time ago based on how 303 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: this last year and a half has gone, but also 304 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: for people who come to New York. And I don't 305 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: think that Deblasio understands how many millions of people around 306 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: the country and around the world make decisions about where 307 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: to go on vacation. Buck The number of people that 308 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: are traveling to New York City has been unbelievably low, 309 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: and the direct number of jobs that are connected to tourism, 310 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: even for a place like New York City is massive, 311 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: beyond belief. And then when you factor in all of 312 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: the money that comes from people's stay in hotels, the 313 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 1: hotel taxes that are basically enforced on tourists, we're talking 314 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: about Deblasio in conjunction with the failure of people to 315 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 1: visit and running away so many high income New Yorkers 316 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,719 Speaker 1: who have options to live in other parts of the 317 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 1: country or brankly anywhere around the world. This is a 318 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: destructive generational, generational issue that Eric Adams, if he's smart, 319 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,360 Speaker 1: will immediately rescind when he comes into office. I don't 320 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: know if he'll be willing to do it, but that 321 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: would be a monumental step that he could take to 322 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: just say Deblasio's rules are out the wind, but we're 323 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: so we're so beaten down that if Eric Adams comes 324 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 1: in and is willing to say, cops aren't the problem 325 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 1: when it comes to crime in this city, and having 326 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: the strictest lockdown in the western world is not a 327 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 1: good idea for New York City. Right now, people are 328 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: gonna act like he's the Messiah. 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One of the other wild things that's going 356 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 1: on right now is an attempt to use COVID as 357 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: a justification for why the overall crime rate is skyrocketing 358 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: all over the country. Twenty twenty, we discussed with you 359 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: FBI data showed nearly a thirty percent increase in the 360 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: overall number of murders, which was the largest increase on record. 361 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 1: Things so far in many cities are not getting better. 362 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: It's likely that we are going to see an overall 363 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: increase from that massive increase in twenty twenty in twenty 364 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: twenty one as well, meaning that things are not going 365 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 1: to have gotten better in many of the places across 366 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 1: the country. Why could that be occurring and what is 367 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: the overall impact on so many of you all over 368 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: this country. Well, this is interesting. Beverly Hills Police Chief 369 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: Mark Stainbrook is willing to actually speak out of course, 370 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: Beverly Hills a part of Los Angeles where we have 371 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 1: seen overall in the city of Los Angeles, massive increases 372 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: in crime all over California. And he says, the police 373 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: chief there did does that the reason why crime is 374 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: surging is because California voters have been sold a bill 375 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: of goods when it comes to criminal justice reform. The 376 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: California voters were sold this bill of goods that these 377 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 1: laws would reduce the criminal population in jails, but the 378 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:45,360 Speaker 1: money that was saved would be used for job placement, 379 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: drug and alcohol treatment, mental illness housing, those sorts of things. 380 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: And we just haven't seen that those services on the 381 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: back end to reduce crime, even if that were a 382 00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: good plan. Clay, over the long term, which is highly debatable, 383 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: the notion that you should allow for what we've seen, 384 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: which is the loosening of the enforcement of the law 385 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: and the undermining of police simultaneously and that that wouldn't 386 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: result in people suffering. Now you can talk about better 387 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: services and outreach and you know, all this things, and 388 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 1: that's all on good, by the way, that's already going 389 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: on at stunning levels in places like New York Los Angeles, 390 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 1: where there's a you know, a massive social welfare and 391 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: services state and operation of bureaucracy that's by the way, 392 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 1: highly inefficient and not very good at a job. But 393 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: there's already all kinds of stuff going on with regard 394 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: to that. But in the meantime, people get their homes 395 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 1: broken into, get their stuff stolen, and get clubbed over 396 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: the head in New York City here when they're on 397 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: the way to the subway. I mean, you know, crime, 398 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 1: all the crime that matters, use the crime. It's local, right, 399 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: So I just want to make sure that we always 400 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: keep in mind this is true of basically every major 401 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: city across the country and most medium sized cities if 402 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 1: you look at it places across the country. I've mentioned Wichitan, 403 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 1: Lanson because I crunch the numbers on those. There are 404 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: others though, that are you know, in the less less 405 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 1: than half a million range, a couple hundred thousand, where 406 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: they've still had big increases in crime. Portland a city 407 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: of six hundred thousand and a thousand shootings in the 408 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 1: last year. Right, so, Clay, What we have, though, is 409 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: a Democrat party that is in denial about this because 410 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: what are they gonna say, right? How are they pushed 411 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 1: all this stuff like they had the panacea? Undermine cops, 412 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:37,360 Speaker 1: more social services, less crime, everybody's happier, more social justice. 413 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 1: What we've gotten is old ladies being clubbed on the 414 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 1: head on the way to the store, those guys being 415 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 1: led out the same day because no cash bail, People 416 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 1: being either not prosecuted for felonies or very lightly prosecuted 417 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: for felonies because social justice is going to be better. 418 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 1: This is madness. AOC said just last week. This was 419 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 1: the quote, folks, we have to talk about specifics, for example, 420 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: because we're actually seeing a lot of these allegations of 421 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: organized retail theft are actually not panning out. This is 422 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: the interview last week. I believe it's a Walgreens in 423 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,479 Speaker 1: California cited it, but the data didn't back it up. 424 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 1: I mean, this woman's living on another planet. She's not 425 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: even living in another country, She's living another planet. This 426 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 1: is insane. Being concerned with the punishment of criminals. Being 427 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 1: too strong is a luxury of low crime. And I 428 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: hate to sound like Matthew McConaughey in True Detective, but 429 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 1: time is a flat circle. What ends up happening over 430 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: and over again is we go through the same cycles 431 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: in this country. People get convinced that police have too 432 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: much power, and there's a couple of viral videos that 433 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: go out and it becomes anecdotal evidence to support an 434 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: indictment of police everywhere in the wake of George Floyd, 435 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 1: and the overall result is so eminently predictable. Crime skyrockets. 436 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:10,239 Speaker 1: The people that are ostensibly being protested for are the 437 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 1: ones who bear the brunt of the crime because, make 438 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: no mistake about it, Black Lives Matter, in an unbelievable irony, 439 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: leads to the more active Black Lives Matter protests are 440 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 1: the more black people who die. That happens almost every 441 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: single city if you look at the data. The more 442 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: active and protests are, the less police are able to 443 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 1: do their job, The media disappears, and the murderate skyrockets 444 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 1: for those who are left behind in those cities. And 445 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: so this is eminently predictable. It's why in twenty twenty two. 446 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: We need to see a massive outreach of Republican voters 447 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: to repudiate, defund the police, and to let police do 448 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 1: their jobs again and put violent criminals back behind the bars. 449 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: I mean to me, even though people want to pretend 450 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: to didn't happen. Waukashaw is a perfect example of this, Buck. 451 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: You had a guy who never should have been on 452 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: the streets at all. Daryl Brooks was a violent, hardened 453 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 1: criminal who was allowed out with a limited bail and 454 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 1: then what we believe committed racially charged murders in Waukashaw, 455 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: and the media wants to pretend it didn't happen, because 456 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: the media directly has blood on its hands with what 457 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,439 Speaker 1: happened there. But so did the DA's who are not 458 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 1: enforcing the law and are allowing violent criminals. You see 459 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: this all the time, Buck, How often do you see 460 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: whenever one of these incident happens, the person who does 461 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:43,360 Speaker 1: it almost never has any kind of clean rap sheet, right. 462 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 1: They have been in and out of prison for years, 463 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: violent crime after violent crime. They had no business being out. 464 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: This is happening all over our country, whether it's Milwaukee, 465 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: whether it's Phoenix, whether it's Houston, whether it's New York City, Atlanta, 466 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 1: you name the place, it's happening everywhere, Clay, there was 467 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:06,199 Speaker 1: just a horrific fatal stabbing in New York of a 468 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: PhD students. Actually were two stabbings, one comb the other 469 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: d Right, I'm sorry, a Columbia PhD student. Right, Yeah, 470 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: the Columbia PhD student who was stabbed to death. And unsurprisingly, 471 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 1: the guy who stabbed into death had already been arrested 472 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 1: eleven times. Now, I understand that the story that we're 473 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 1: supposed to believe here from the criminal justice reformers out 474 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 1: there on the left, the Sauros thinking social justice, progressive 475 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 1: prosecutor types, or whether the prosecutors or just individuals, but 476 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: that that same mentality is, oh my gosh, some guy 477 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 1: got caught for the third time stealing a pair of 478 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: socks and he's going to prison forever for it, and 479 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 1: that shouldn't happen. Now, by the way, that shouldn't happen. 480 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: But what also shouldn't happen is you change laws that 481 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: aren't really going to stop that, but will result in 482 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 1: people who have multiple felony convictions arrests. I mean, once 483 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: you've been arrested ten, eleven, fifteen, twenty in the case 484 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 1: of a guy who hit an old lady here on 485 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 1: the streets some months ago, but it went viral because 486 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: there's video of it. Literally just just clocked an old 487 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 1: lady in the head walking past her broad daylight, an 488 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: elderly woman. Guy, I've been arrested one hundred times. Okay, 489 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: So at what point do the libs have to accept 490 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,159 Speaker 1: that when someone's been arrested fifteen times, fifty times, a 491 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: hundred times, it's not because the system is so unfair 492 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: to them, at least the criminal justice system. If anything, 493 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: it's too permissive, and there are people that need to 494 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: be taken off the street for the safety of those 495 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: around them. Notice, with COVID, you know you're a threat 496 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: to other people if you breathe. But with violent felons, 497 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: it's hey, come on, let's not be too harsh, let's 498 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: not get crazy. You know, this guy doesn't need to 499 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 1: go to prison. He'll only you know, he hit his 500 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: fifth old lady over the head with a hammer. Maybe 501 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: if we give him, you know, some more social services, 502 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: he'll stop hitting old ladies with hammers. The irony here 503 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: also buck is it maybe the only thing Joe Biden's 504 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: almost gotten right in his entire career, nineteen ninety four 505 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: crime bill, which he now has repeated. It's that amazing 506 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: one thing. And I will say, right, there were Republicans 507 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: at the time, just out of like sheer hatred of Biden. 508 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 1: We're saying, oh, he even turned it, and I'm like, 509 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: no, no no, guys, but that was that was actually good. 510 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 1: That was actually that was actually a good thing. And 511 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: now we should be hitting him for abandoning the one 512 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 1: good thing that either that anyway, I mean, it's it's 513 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: crazy everyone's saying. I mean, you know, we've got He'd 514 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: just go down the list, right, New York, Los Angeles, Atlanta, Phoenix, Minneapolis, 515 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: all these cities, Claire, people listening across the coy Houston, 516 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: all right, shooting's way up, crime way up. What the 517 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: heck is going on? Democrats, That's what's going on, folks. 518 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: They're in charge. We're all about pets on this program, 519 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: yours ares. We love them. We want our pets to 520 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: be healthy and well fit. One way to make sure 521 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: that's happening is to give them the benefits of a 522 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: healthy food supplement. It's called rough Greens, and it's meant 523 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: to supplement the dry kibbled dog food you're feeding your 524 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: dog every day. Dry dog food does not have the 525 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: living ingredients your dog needs for a healthy digestive system. Vitamins, probiotics, enzymes, 526 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: and antioxidant's just the name a few. Those all come 527 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: with Rough Greens. You sprinkle a little on your dog's food, 528 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: you'll see just how your dog loves it. The ingredients 529 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 1: that that are in it really help with your dogs 530 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: overall health, digestion, energy, you name it. What you get 531 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 1: is a happier and healthier dog. Jason and Kansas is 532 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: saying now that his dog, he now tells us that 533 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,959 Speaker 1: his dog pushes the bowl as quickly as possible so 534 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: that the mixed the Rough Greens can be mixed in quickly. 535 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: The folks at rough Greens are so confident your dog 536 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: is gonna love it. They've got a special deal for you. 537 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: Got a rough Greens dot com slash eib, They're gonna 538 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: give you the first bag free. All you pay is shipping. 539 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 1: That's rough Greens dot Com slash eib. Rough Greens dot 540 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: Com slash eib. His defense should have actually said plot 541 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: insanity and I would have bought it. Like when you 542 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: listen to the story and your follow every element of this, 543 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: Like Jesse Smaller is not a sane person. And what 544 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: people are forgetting is that he's asking you to believe. 545 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: You know, there's this thing called Ockham's razor, right, Usually 546 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,719 Speaker 1: the simplest explanation is the best explanation. He is asking 547 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 1: you to believe. Just an incredible set of circumstances took 548 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: place here. I mean, you have to be an absolute 549 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 1: fool to believe anything else in what is plainly in 550 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: front of us, Jesse Smollett wide. It is actually the 551 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: greatest racial hoax that has taken place, at least in 552 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: the last three decades. Welcome back the Clay and Bucksher. 553 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: That's Candice Owens lighten it up last night on Fox 554 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 1: about the Jesse Smollette trial. And I still feel like 555 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: there is a great disservice both to justice and to transparency. 556 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: I would even add to that a great disservice to comedy. Yeah, 557 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: we do not have access to what is being said. 558 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: We're getting reporting of it, but we don't have the audio. 559 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: We don't have the video from within the courtroom of 560 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 1: Jesse Smaller. Just so everyone is clear on this. He 561 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: is now claiming that there was in fact, at this stage, 562 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: he is still saying there was a hate crime attack 563 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: against him and that the two Nigerian brothers committed this 564 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: hate crime attack. I guess is that where that's I think. 565 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: He's also now arguing that there was a third person 566 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: in addition to the two of them, and that this 567 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: mystery third person might have been a white guy. And 568 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 1: I mean it, it is spiraled into a series of 569 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: unbelievable wise but he's still claiming, yes, that he was 570 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: the victim of a hate crew. He's saying there was 571 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: a hate crime atack. He's also claiming that one of them, 572 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: you know, Nigerian brothers and him had some kind of 573 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: a relationship, sexual relationship at a bathhouse. The Nigerian brother, 574 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 1: I believe, claims there was no sexual relationship, but there 575 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: was a smoking of a blunt or a marijuana cigarette 576 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: for their character. And you know, like the whole thing 577 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 1: is absurd beyond words. And the reason that it's so 578 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: interesting is that what you see are there are still 579 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: people this whole this whole um, you know, movement around 580 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: diversity and inclusion and the race obsession of the mainstream 581 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: and the Democrat corporate media is like a religious belief 582 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: because you have people that won't even you know, they 583 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 1: won't come out and it's say, yeah, he very he 584 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: did it. This is a joke, This is absurd. They're 585 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 1: still doing the whole all we gotta hear, we gotta 586 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: hear what Russe small at You know, they're doing this 587 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: neutral reporting thing. This is beyond farce. Like if you 588 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 1: were writing this to be in an episode of a 589 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: TV series, they'd say, well, this is too stupid. They've 590 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: got video of the guy and the guy still claiming 591 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 1: that he didn't do it, and it's absurd. But it 592 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: also goes to show you Jusse Smolette has gotten away 593 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 1: with lying and with playing this game and playing this 594 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: card for a very long time time. Well, and not 595 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 1: only that, there are a lot of famous people who 596 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 1: have been in his corner. And one of the things 597 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 1: that he testified to was that Don Lemon at CNN, 598 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: who by the way, credibly accused of sexual assault. Don Lemon, 599 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 1: who has maintained his job at least so far at CNN, 600 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: was texting Jesse Smalette to let him know that he 601 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: was hearing the Chicago cops didn't believe his story. So 602 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: for CNN, I think this is an intriguing angle to 603 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 1: this story as well. You just had to fire Chris Cuomo. 604 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: Is it not another awful look for a major CNN 605 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: focal point of their coverage, a man with a primetime 606 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 1: show and Don Lemon to be texting with Jesse Smalette, 607 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 1: who is a defendant in a case that Don Lemon 608 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 1: is covering, to let him know what he's hearing about 609 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 1: the police in this case. Here's the problem. The reason 610 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 1: CNN is embarrassed not that they have unethical anchors who 611 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 1: do bad things and lie and all that. It's because 612 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: they still cling to this facade, right, it's not believable, 613 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 1: the same way that jose Smallatt claims he still clings 614 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 1: to the notion that he was the victim of a 615 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,800 Speaker 1: hate crime, which is just not credible to any person 616 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: that has a functioning brain. CNN still claims that it 617 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:28,760 Speaker 1: is an objective news entity. It is journalism at CNN, 618 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 1: And what you see is all of their hosts are 619 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 1: effectively Democrat activists who are trying to stack the deck, 620 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 1: who are playing games behind closed doors and texting people 621 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,879 Speaker 1: and using their influence and using their leverage to bring 622 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 1: about not only a certain perception in their audience their propagandists, 623 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 1: but also outcomes politically. That's why they're activists, and they 624 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,760 Speaker 1: lie about it, you know, Clay, when we have somebody 625 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 1: on this show, you know, I'll say, oh, you know, 626 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,240 Speaker 1: we just have we're having well having on Pete Hexeth, 627 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: right or something like that. I'll say, Pete, he's a 628 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 1: friend of mine, like Pezza friend. We've known each other 629 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 1: now for a dec and we have a lot of 630 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: people on that are friends of yours. Beats one of 631 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: them our friends of yours too. I want to tell 632 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,839 Speaker 1: the audience that because we're honest with people about where 633 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,359 Speaker 1: we're coming from. Don Lemon is covering Jesse Small at 634 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,800 Speaker 1: night after night as though he's an objective news anchor, 635 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,280 Speaker 1: and he's basically texting him about, oh man, the police 636 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 1: don't believe you. You better watch out, which goes to 637 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 1: the very essence of whether these guys can be trusted 638 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: and is further of a black eye for the journalism 639 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 1: of CNN. I don't know who's going to be left 640 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,359 Speaker 1: by the time all these stories continue to rear their 641 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:39,399 Speaker 1: ugly heads surrounding everyone at CNN. It sounds like Chris 642 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: Cuomo is maybe going to try to take Jeff Zucker 643 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 1: down with him to see some of those quotes. Chris Cuomo, 644 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: by the way, has lost his satellite radio show now. 645 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 1: Sirius XM has pulled that show from him too, so 646 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 1: he has no media outlets right now. He's going to 647 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 1: sue CNN arguing that he's owed the remainder of his contract. 648 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 1: And now he's saying, hey, Jeff Zucker knew every thing, 649 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 1: and so now Jeff Zucker might end up under the 650 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: under the investigation before all is said and done too. 651 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 1: This is a pretty monstrous mess for CNN going forward, 652 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 1: and it's an ugly look for everyone who defended Jesse 653 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 1: small Att in any way, we're gonna be joined by 654 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 1: the way coming back on the flip side here top 655 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 1: of hour two, Alex Barrenson our friend, speaking of friends, 656 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 1: who has continued to cover all of the data surrounding COVID. 657 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 1: What is the latest? Does the Prince of Darkness have 658 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 1: a glimmer of hope for us? Buck? What do you 659 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 1: think that there's gonna be anything positive that Alex Barrenson 660 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:39,280 Speaker 1: has to say? In the long run, nothing last, forever. 661 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: That's the positive. Alex Barrenson next,