1 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. 2 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 2: Welcome to The Phillies Show with Ruben Tomorrow Junior, Jim Salisbury. 3 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,159 Speaker 2: I am Todd Zuleki. Guys who got intro music. This 4 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 2: is like a big deal. What do you think about 5 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 2: the new tune? 6 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 3: It's got some thump to it. 7 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's up or somebody figured did. 8 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: Somebody like write this? 9 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 3: Or I had to go to a website. 10 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 2: I had to go to a website because Jim recommended 11 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 2: he texted us a song. I don't even know what 12 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 2: the band was, and we don't have the rights of 13 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 2: that song. 14 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 3: No, it's a good song. I think I wanted. 15 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 4: The intro to Life is just a fantasy by Aldo Nova. 16 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 4: It really rocks. It's kind of from my twenties, you know, 17 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 4: when I was a rocker. 18 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 2: If this podcast takes off, I'll reach out to the agent. 19 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 2: Maybe they can give us the right so we can 20 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 2: use it. 21 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you were a heavy metal rocker or just 22 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: a rocker. 23 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 4: I just I like I like it all, but you know, 24 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 4: I liked a little headbang and stuff at times, a 25 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:22,119 Speaker 4: little uh guns and Roses, little Motley. 26 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 3: Crew, Cinderella nice that I really like Cinderella hardcore. 27 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: That's a little hardcore. 28 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't know. I didn't know. 29 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:34,919 Speaker 2: I didn't know you're into Cinderella. 30 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: No, I didn't know it was I didn't know that either. Interesting. 31 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: What about you, Joe, You seem like a grungey kind 32 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: of a dude. 33 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 2: You know, I actually am more a classic rock guy. 34 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 2: My first concert I ever saw was Tom Petty and 35 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 2: the Heartbreakers back in high school. That was that was 36 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 2: That was? Yes, absolutely, So that's kind of more my wheelhouse. 37 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 4: I used to love a lot of new wave, Like 38 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 4: I still love the Cars. I listened to the Cars 39 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 4: all the time. 40 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, that's fantastic. 41 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, what about you? 42 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: I'm pretty eclectic. I mean I basically like all types 43 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: of music. I went through all types of phases I 44 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: went through. I'm a little bit into the country now, 45 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 1: but I wasn't in a country like when I first 46 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: started playing professional baseball, listening to like Clinton Black and 47 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: uh I mean McGraw and Randy Travis. I was into 48 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: that for a while. But I also like dance tunes, 49 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,839 Speaker 1: I mean, Earth Wind and Fire and U two. It's 50 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: not a dance but I was a huge U two 51 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 1: fan and still am. But I'm all over the map, man. 52 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,959 Speaker 3: You guys. You guys remember the day Kenny Chesney came 53 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 3: to visit Doc Yes. 54 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 2: In Clearwater. Yeah, he was in Charlie's office, right, how 55 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 2: about that? Yeah, y speaking, that's. 56 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: A lot of celebrities zipping in and out. I saw 57 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: like and uh a bunch of golfers when we were 58 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: in Boston I was coaching there. I mean, it happens 59 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: all the time. It's kind of cool. 60 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 4: Remember the time, uh so John Lovett showed up in 61 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 4: the press box and I made him laugh. It's the 62 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,399 Speaker 4: most one of the most proud moments of my life 63 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 4: when I made John Lovetts laugh. 64 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 2: That was I remember he showed up in the press 65 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 2: box in clear Water and you brought up a line 66 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 2: from a league of their own and you made him laugh. 67 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 2: That is pretty cool. 68 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 4: And then he started mimicking the scene and we were 69 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 4: going back and forth doing it. 70 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 2: You could have been a king of improv. You could 71 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 2: have been a king of improv, but end up being 72 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 2: a baseball writer. 73 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 5: We did, we did at one time we did in Cleveland. 74 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 5: Jay Lannel Jay Leno came in and did like one 75 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 5: of his opens at in our in our clubhouse, and 76 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 5: he had like he had us like putting our EyeBlack 77 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,119 Speaker 5: on and like the and the camera was panning through 78 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 5: and then and then at the end he was putting 79 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 5: on like lipsticks like that. 80 00:03:57,960 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 2: That's fantastic. It's gotta be a video that so. 81 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: Where no doubt, no doubt. 82 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 2: So we Jimmy mentioned headbanging. Kind of a head banging 83 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 2: week for the Phillies two and four to start the season. 84 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 2: Not great. What kind of jumped out to you guys 85 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 2: when you think back to this first week? You know, panic? 86 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 2: Not panic? Where do you guys come down on this, 87 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 2: jim No panic. 88 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 4: I think panic is a horrible emotion for. 89 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 3: The game of baseball. 90 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 4: I think you need to be even keeled to play 91 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 4: this game and to manage this game, to cover this game, 92 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 4: and to even be a fan of this game. Sometimes 93 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 4: hard test your patience a little bit, especially the first 94 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 4: week when everything's magnified two and four. 95 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 3: You wanted a little bit better. 96 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 4: But you know, you've got about one hundred and fifty 97 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 4: six games to turn things around. 98 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 3: There were some pluses, There were some minuses. 99 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 4: Defense, a little ragged offense not there, I mean, save 100 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 4: for you know, the Harper night. 101 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 3: But there were some positives. 102 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 4: I mean, I thought you got some good starts and 103 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 4: starting pitchings only walk four batters, that's a pretty pretty 104 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 4: good plus so tough weather to play in, no excuse. 105 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 4: Cincinnati got it done, Phillies didn't get it done, but 106 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 4: not an ideal start. And but you know, I think 107 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 4: you can go to Washington now hopefully the weather will 108 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 4: get better. And you know, I do think eventually they're 109 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 4: going to hit their stride. I certainly saw nothing. Uh, 110 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 4: you know, though not pleased with everything, I saw nothing 111 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 4: to panic about. 112 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 3: Rub Yeah. 113 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't think you're gonna see panic from this team. 114 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: They're pretty even keeled, and they're also one of the 115 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: most resilient ball clubs. Like a lot of stuff that 116 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: you know, I talk about this all the time. They're 117 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 1: a little bit like goldfish. They don't have a very 118 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: good memory, which is great, and I think that's part 119 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: of being a veteran group. And and uh, and there's 120 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: a lot of guys in that team, like Schwarber and 121 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: Turner and of Harper, like some of the veteran guys, 122 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: and you know, add like a Merryfield. I don't think 123 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: that they get all that you know hyped up. JT. 124 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: You don't get hyped up about stuff that happened in 125 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: the past. I think they sort of Okay, that's over, 126 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 1: that's baseball, and let's move forward. I am concerned about 127 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 1: their offense right now, and the concern that I've had 128 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: about their offense is that, you know, obviously they were 129 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: exposed last year in the playoffs in the NLCS about 130 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: Chase and that sort of thing and their swing decisions, 131 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 1: and frankly, during the course of spring training, nor during 132 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: the course of this early part of the season, do 133 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 1: I see that changing a whole lot. I know it's early. 134 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 1: I know that they haven't had a lot of reps, 135 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: which was a little bit of a concern for me. 136 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: And part of the reason why they didn't have a 137 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: lot of reps in a bats is because there was 138 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: a pretty serious virus or whatever illness that was going 139 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: through the clubhouse, and I don't think that helped them. 140 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 1: As far as what I think toppers play was. I 141 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 1: think his plan was going to be different than what 142 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: he had done the previous spring training as far as 143 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: getting these guys ready to get it have a better start, 144 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: and I think that kind of messed up the plans, 145 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: and so what we see right now is a little 146 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: bit of the same thing that we've seen at the 147 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: end of the year last year and for most of 148 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: the spring. I didn't see a whole lot of plate 149 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: discipline during the spring. And I'm not just talking about 150 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: Joann Ross or Castiganos. I'm talking about like a lot 151 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: of those guys, not all of them, because the young 152 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: guys are actually having really good at bats. I think Boone, Stott, 153 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: Marsh those guys are having pretty damn good at bats. 154 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: And even I like what I see out of Schwarber 155 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: because he's utilize in the middle of the field much better. 156 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: He's getting some up in the middle. He's even breaking 157 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: a couple of bats, which isn't the worst thing in 158 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: the world for him, probably, but now he's got a 159 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: couple of homers. But so it's not everybody, but like 160 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: it's sort of if you're looking at the vast the 161 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: majority of the advats that I see. I'm not really 162 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: all that excited about what I have seen so far, 163 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: and I think it will turn around, but it better 164 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: because if it doesn't. The offense is really sort of 165 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: what they built this team around. There's a lot of 166 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: money in the offense. The offense and the starting pitching, 167 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: and if there's if those two things, those two elements 168 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: do not work well during the course of the season, 169 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,719 Speaker 1: then it could be a little difficult. 170 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 2: Is it possible to change somebody's stripes? Because every spring, 171 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 2: every year, no matter how good the offense is, you know, 172 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:44,839 Speaker 2: you have like the hitting coach and the manager and 173 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 2: the GM or who I'm ever it is at the 174 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 2: times they you know, this spring, we want to be 175 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 2: better with runners in scoring position. We want to make 176 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 2: sure we get that runner in from third base. And 177 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 2: it seems I almost feel like sometimes it's just kind 178 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 2: of something that you say, you know, or people say, 179 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 2: and can guys actually change? I mean, there are there 180 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 2: actually ways to improve a guy? You know, like for 181 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 2: so many years Jimmy Rollins, you know, can can we 182 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 2: get him to see more pitches? Can we see in 183 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 2: every spring and be like, ah, we're gonna, We're going 184 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 2: Jimmy worked with Tony Gwynn this offseason. He's gonna he's 185 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 2: going to get a better eye. Then Jimmy was Jimmy though, 186 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 2: you know, like he he You know, is is it 187 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 2: possible to actually change these guys? I don't. I don't 188 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know. I mean, I think they're 189 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 2: better a certainly than what they've shown this week, but 190 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 2: there's always going to be some swing and miss. 191 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 4: I think it's very difficult to change because you know, 192 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 4: at this level, in a lot of cases, you are 193 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 4: what you are, and when you get in the heat 194 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 4: of the battle, getting that battles box with you know, 195 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 4: some guy six foot three inches bearing down on you, 196 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 4: throwing you know, ninety six with sink, you are in 197 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 4: that situation going to revert back to the thing you 198 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 4: know best and the thing that makes you comfortable. And 199 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 4: it's very hard to change approach, I believe. And Rubin 200 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 4: used an interesting word phrase, swing decision. That's something I've 201 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 4: heard a lot of the last decade, and sometimes it. 202 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 3: Just rubs me the wrong way. 203 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 4: Swing decision, because when I think, if you're in the 204 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:23,839 Speaker 4: batter's box, and I'm probably nitpicking, but if you're in 205 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 4: the batter's box and you're making decisions, something's wrong. When 206 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 4: you're in a batter's box, you should be reacting, not deciding. 207 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 4: And I think there's a kind of a fine line there, 208 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 4: because when you're deciding, it indicates to me that you're 209 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 4: thinking too much. You need to be in the batter's 210 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:46,079 Speaker 4: box and so well honed and so sharp that it's 211 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 4: a reaction. But I don't know, can a guy change, Rubin. 212 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 4: I mean, you've spent years in the batter's box as 213 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 4: a player, you've coached, you've put together teams as a GM. 214 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 3: Can guys change when they are noted? 215 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 4: Maybe not free swingers, but close to free swingers. 216 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: You make a great point. First of all, you made 217 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: a great point as far as decisions and reacting. When 218 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: I say swing decisions, that's sort of what I mean. 219 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: But you're right, Jim, because what I see now is 220 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:26,359 Speaker 1: because of the fact that we have these enormous velocities 221 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:31,559 Speaker 1: and spin rates, or at least perceived the velocities and 222 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: spin rates, because because the velocities are not being they're 223 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: not being recorded the same way as they used to be. 224 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: Now they're being recorded out of the hand, and it's 225 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: not at the plate where you used to get the 226 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 1: readings and all that stuff. So it's not as disparate 227 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: as people think it is over the last ten years. 228 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: But when you start talking about that a lot, and 229 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: you start to think, look at the how coaches are 230 00:11:56,679 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: coaching and how players are viewing their at back. They're 231 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: looking in the probabilities. The probability of this guy throwing 232 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: a two to one slider, for instance, is seventy seven percent. 233 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: So now I'm going to look for a slider, and 234 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: then when I get the basketball, I miss it. See, 235 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: I think that's a problem. And when they're thinking too much, 236 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 1: and and you made that comment, when hitters are thinking 237 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: too much, you're you're kind of screwed, because if you're 238 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 1: not just watching the baseball and reacting to it with 239 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: a thought process, with a different sort of thought process, 240 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: it's going to make hitting tougher and tougher and tougher. 241 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: These guys are quick enough. They all can get to 242 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: one hundred mile an hour fastball right their eye hand coordination. 243 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: Otherwise they wouldn't be able to be playing baseball at all, 244 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: at a level at the upper levels of baseball, So 245 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: their ability to react to that pitch is there. I 246 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: do believe that it's more about making sure that you 247 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: instead of guessing at pitches or and I see guessing 248 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: happening way way more now than it used to. Now, 249 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: you should be looking into his zone or a space, 250 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 1: or have an idea it's okay to think about getting 251 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 1: a certain pitch into certain count, and I don't think 252 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: there's anything wrong with that when you're up in the 253 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: count or something like that. But there's so much more 254 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: guessing going on now in the game, and I think 255 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: that makes it tough. As far as changing your overall approach. 256 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: There's very few guys that I have seen make them 257 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 1: those adjustments in Major League. The first guy that makes 258 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: me think of someone who has done it is Mike Schmidt. 259 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: If you remember Mike Schmidt during the curse course of 260 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,199 Speaker 1: his first part of his career, I mean, he struck 261 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: out a lot and he hit a lot of home runs, 262 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: but his average was very low, and I think he 263 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: told himself, you know what, I'm going to do everything 264 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: I can to hit three hundred, and he started utilizing 265 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: the other side of the field. He flattened his bat out. 266 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: I mean I talked to him, I had conversation with 267 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: him about it, and he like late in his career 268 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 1: when he felt like he didn't have the same sort 269 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: of power to be able to drive the battle of 270 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 1: the ballpark, he said, I'm going to be I'm gonna 271 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: try to make myself a little bit more complete hit 272 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: or and so as average went up a little bit, 273 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 1: is numbers went down. I think guys can adjust. There 274 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 1: are certain guys who, hey, I want to hit more 275 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: home runs this year, and if you try to try 276 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: to create a little bit more loft in their swing 277 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: or things like that. But but to overall make revamp 278 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: their you know, their approach, that's a hard, hard thing 279 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: to do. And you're right when you're in the battle's 280 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: box and you're battling and you're locking in on trying 281 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: to you know, make contact with somebody who's trying to 282 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: get your ass out, you basically go back to what 283 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: who you are? You know, you go back to I 284 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: had I had trouble hitting off speed pitches from the 285 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: left side, and well, what's the best way to not 286 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: to hit, you know, to to to combat that, Well, 287 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: don't miss the fastball. John Bukovich used to say, Hey, 288 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: don't be looking for a bitch. You can't hit anyway, Like, 289 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: why would you look for a break involved and you're 290 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: gonna miss anyway. Make sure you don't miss the fastball 291 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: when that one comes. And it made a lot of sense. Now, 292 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: right handed, I was a different I had I don't know, 293 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: my eye hand coordination was totally different, so I can 294 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: hit off speed pitch is much better right handed. But 295 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: but you know, I think the job of the hitting 296 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: coach has always been the same to me. Try to 297 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: maximize the things that that player does really really well, 298 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: and try to minimize some of the you know, some 299 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: of the challenges he has as a hitter. But I 300 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: don't know, it's hard to make a like a complete change. 301 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: You can sort of change your mindset, but your actual 302 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: your actual ability to do that, it's really really tough. 303 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 4: Well, they're going I need to, like you said, put 304 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 4: the starting pitching and the offense that both need to 305 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 4: be good, and they need to get the offense going 306 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 4: to avoid you know, they've had two slow starts in 307 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 4: the last couple of years and they've ended up in 308 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 4: the postseason. But eventually it wears you out climbing that 309 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 4: hill all year. It'd be nice to think, right toosh. 310 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 2: So last night during the game, it's miserable outside and 311 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 2: they're losing, and I'm going, I feel like every year 312 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 2: these guys get off to a slow start. So I 313 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 2: actually went back and I looked, this is my twenty 314 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 2: second season covering the Phillies. Through six games, they've had 315 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 2: a winning record four times. In those twenty two years, 316 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 2: they've had a losing record ten times, five hundred and 317 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 2: eight times. Winning records twenty ten to twenty eleven, no surprise, 318 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 2: great pitching, great teams. Twenty nineteen they got off to 319 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 2: a fast start. Twenty twenty one, they got off to 320 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 2: a fast start. So yeah, yeah, I wasn't doing ninety 321 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 2: three yet. But two thousand and seven they give every 322 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 2: one in five. Two thousand and eight they were two 323 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 2: and four. Last year there were one in five. So 324 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 2: but yeah, it's just like, do you really want to 325 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 2: go through this again, through this gut where you know, 326 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 2: in June you're like, all right, we better kick it 327 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 2: up a notch if we're going to win a wild card, 328 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 2: because it's you know, you don't want to count on 329 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 2: that second half kick to make the playoffs because one 330 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 2: of these times you're going to get buried too much 331 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 2: and that kick's not going to come and and uh, 332 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 2: you're going to be behind the eight ball. You know, 333 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:26,479 Speaker 2: started a little bit earlier. 334 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 4: This time, was just sitting through that range away. 335 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I really can't believe, you know, it 336 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 2: was funny because Bryce. I asked Bryce after the three 337 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 2: home run game, I said, how miserable were you? And 338 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 2: he put it in the terms that I could relate to, 339 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 2: because I actually I've never played at that level. And 340 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 2: he says, well, I mean you've played golf before. Imagine 341 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 2: going out and playing eighteen holes of golf in that weather. 342 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, no. 343 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: Thanks, I mean it's it's I will tell you that 344 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: as a hitter, I think the pitcher has a great advantage. 345 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: I mean, they already has a great advantage in baseball, 346 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 1: but when you start exposing them to like rain drops 347 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: and freezing weather and your hands don't feel right, and 348 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's tough to hit. Man, it's tough, 349 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: and like both teams had to go through it, but 350 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 1: it's you've got to have some mental fortitude to play baseball. 351 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't this. This is a game that 352 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: was not meant to play be played in those conditions. 353 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 1: But I will tell you these guys value their off 354 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: days so much that I guarantee you the players wanted 355 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: to play that game, even though they probably bitched and 356 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: complained about it the whole time. At the end of 357 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: the day. They would rather do that than than not 358 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: have this off day today. 359 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, well there was, and it's sunny out now as 360 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 4: we're chatting, and they both had off days on the 361 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 4: schedule today. But you know, I understand, and it's early 362 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 4: in the year. The Reds want to get home, probably 363 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 4: get guys looking for apartments. Phillies probably have guys, you know, 364 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 4: moving into apartments, or they're traveling to Washington. And off 365 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 4: days are are good for your body, they're good for 366 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 4: your mind, and he gets you some family time. 367 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 3: And they're around the ballpark more than ever now. They're 368 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 3: they're walking in at twelve thirty in the afternoon. They're 369 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 3: having a lunch. You know. 370 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: That's that's because they have all three of their meals 371 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: in one spot. 372 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy of their meals. 373 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, they used to be like that. 374 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 4: Like Frank Copenbarger always tells the great story when he 375 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 4: worked for the Cardinals clubhouse man that Whitey Herzog would, well, 376 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 4: it would be the first one there every day. He 377 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 4: would unlocked the clubhouse at three o'clock. And if you'd 378 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 4: never have time to get ready for the game at 379 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 4: three o'clock, something. 380 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 3: Was wrong and he would unlock the clubhouse. 381 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 4: Didn't want anybody there before then because he wanted your home, 382 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 4: eating lunch with your family, and and and having a 383 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 4: balanced life. So I understand the value of off days 384 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 4: a lot. And but I was laughing last night. There 385 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 4: was this rumor going around that, you know, they needed 386 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 4: to get the game in last night because there was 387 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 4: a wedding at. 388 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: The bank today. 389 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 3: The stupidest it was not true. 390 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 2: There's a divorce going on there, so it's it was, 391 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 2: It's exactly. 392 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 3: It's funny. 393 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 2: So apparently it was set on the TBS broadcast the 394 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 2: night before. I did not know that. And then and 395 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 2: then the apparently somebody said it on the Red's pregame show. 396 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 2: So next thing you know, I'm having people say I 397 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 2: can't believe they're not They're gonna make the fans sit 398 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 2: through this because there's a wedding tomorrow at the ballpark. 399 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 3: So now the world I live in, I have to go. 400 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 2: I gotta check on this. It's been said on the 401 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 2: Reds pregame show. So now I am reaching out the 402 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 2: people going, uh, did you go? Did you guys schedule 403 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 2: a wedding tomorrow? Even though I knew it was the 404 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 2: dumbest thing, right, You never feel like a bigger loser 405 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 2: when you had that. Then you have to like pursue 406 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 2: one of these things. And they're like, uh yeah, no, dummy, 407 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 2: there's no there's no wedding tomorrow. Imagine can you imagine 408 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 2: if the Phillies at the Phillies Events people at scheduled 409 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 2: a wedding and now Rob Thompson and David bellgun. 410 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 3: We want to you know, we don't want to play tonight. 411 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 2: We're gonna We're gonna play tomorrow. And they go, Rob, Dave, 412 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 2: Dave Dombrowski, Uh, you guys can't play tomorrow. We've got 413 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 2: a wedding scheduled. 414 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 1: First of all, first of all, it's ridiculous. The thought 415 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: even the thought of it is so ridiculous because MLB 416 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 1: would not allow such a thing. But you know what, 417 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 1: some though people are just crazy people think. 418 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 2: So I put it out there it was not true, 419 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 2: and people were telling me I was wrong. 420 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 4: It was funny, it was it was funny. 421 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 1: Also, the same people that apparently I was fired, you k, 422 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 1: guys knew that I was fired from my I believed 423 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 1: in my duties that was out there on Twitter or 424 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 1: on X or whatever, that was it. I mean that, 425 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,360 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, you need to check it out 426 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: drunk filsfans dot com or something crap like that. 427 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,959 Speaker 4: Okay, don't don't they know that I'm the only one 428 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 4: who fires you. 429 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 1: That's exactly That's right, you're the one. 430 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 2: He's the only guy. 431 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:17,239 Speaker 1: You're the one. 432 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 2: Gosh, a couple of things I want I want to 433 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 2: jump into a couple of things like, uh, real quick, 434 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 2: Bryce Harper's three home run game. Do you guys watch 435 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 2: that and go? You know, you guys appreciate baseball as 436 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 2: much as anybody obviously, you know what what kind of 437 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,199 Speaker 2: jumped out to you when you watch a guy like 438 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 2: that in that weather and just hit three home runs 439 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 2: in a game, you know something, something truly. 440 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 4: Special, indelible memory. I mean, the guy's a beast doing 441 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 4: it on a horrible night. It just tells you if 442 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 4: you square up that ball and that little teeny tiny 443 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 4: sweet spot doesn't matter, you're gonna propel it. 444 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 3: And it's gonna go a long way. 445 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,439 Speaker 4: I actually thought the night before he lined went back 446 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 4: to the pitcher like a like a beat, like a bullet, 447 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 4: and it just looked like sometimes one swing can lock 448 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 4: in it looked like that was a pretty good swing. 449 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,479 Speaker 4: He squared it up and it looked like he carried 450 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 4: that swing over the next two nights. You know, the 451 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 4: guy's a beast, he's a showman. He's fun to watch. 452 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 4: And you know, hitting three home runs one Grand Slam 453 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 4: with a ski mask on. You know, it's one of 454 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 4: those things you're gonna see on YouTube when they do 455 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 4: his career highlight reel. 456 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's pretty amazing, And you make a great point, Jim. 457 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: I brought this up in the post game. When he 458 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,199 Speaker 1: whenever he hits the ball and he stays on his 459 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 1: legs and drives the ball through the middle of the 460 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: field opposite way, that's when you know he's sort of 461 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: locked in. And you're right that that bat right there 462 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 1: sort of set the tone and he started driving the ball. 463 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: Sometimes he leaks a little bit to the pool side 464 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 1: and you see he hits some some hips, pull out 465 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: or whatever. But when he stays in the middle of 466 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: the field, which he's done a lot more consistently in 467 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 1: his later part of his career than he did in 468 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: the early part of his career, and that's why he's 469 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 1: a more consistent hitter now. When he does that he is. 470 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 1: He is pretty ridiculous. And so he hit that line 471 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 1: drive in the middle. Then he crushes the ball to 472 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: left center field for the home run. But then you know, 473 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: then he pulls one. I mean you see that he's 474 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: seeing the ball better and just letting it travel more 475 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 1: and allowing the ball to get a little deeper so 476 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: that he can stay behind it, which is, you know, 477 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 1: what you sort of want to have when you're locked in, 478 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: that's sort of what you do. But what was interesting 479 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: was that he had really struggled to do that. I mean, 480 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: he hit like, what two or three balls total in 481 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: the air during course of spring training. I don't think 482 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 1: he hit any balls in the air he didn't like 483 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 1: I think he hit one ball in the air. Maybe 484 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: he's zero, I don't know. 485 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,360 Speaker 2: It's weird, So it's funny. So, speaking of spring training, 486 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 2: he missed. There were two games on the East Coast 487 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 2: of Florida and spring training, right and Bryce did not 488 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 2: play in those games. Obviously, no, not that a lot 489 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 2: of the big guys went over to the East Coast. 490 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 2: So Sunday, that Sunday is Saint Patrick's Day. Bryce's name 491 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 2: is not in the lineup, so Jimmy, and you've been 492 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 2: there before, right, you walk in and go Bryce is 493 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 2: not playing three days in a row. The sirens start 494 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 2: going off in your head. Got a back issue. Back's fine, 495 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 2: Back's fine. Don't worry about it, guys, don't worry about it. 496 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 2: That Wednesday, the Phillies are going to Sarasota. Bryce is 497 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 2: taking VP on the field and I'm standing next to 498 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 2: Mac Galbat the athletic, and we're kind of watching his 499 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 2: VP session ends and he walks over to the mound 500 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 2: and this kind of group gathers and he looks. His 501 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 2: body language is like I am not a happy man 502 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 2: right now. And we're going, oh my gosh, did he 503 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 2: like tweak his back? What's going on? Since the bands 504 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 2: start asking us did he hurt himself? Did he hurt himself? 505 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 2: So now we didn't get a chance to talk to Bryce. 506 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,360 Speaker 2: He walks into the clubhouse. Clubhouse was closed by that point. 507 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 2: Go down to Sarasota. I go up to Rob, I go, hey, 508 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 2: did did Bryce's BP go okay? And he looks at 509 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 2: me and goes, yeah, I thought it was great. Why 510 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 2: I said he had some leg bad body language. He 511 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,679 Speaker 2: looked really upset. He was like, oh, he hates his 512 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 2: swing right now. He's so mad at his swing right now. 513 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 2: He's like, I thought he was great. He was hitting 514 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 2: rockets to the opposite field. I thought he was amazing. 515 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 2: So that the next day, that Thursday, Bryce is on 516 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 2: the field and again we go over and we go, uh, 517 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 2: hey you good, You're back good. He's like, yeah, what 518 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,719 Speaker 2: I told you, I'm fine. Well, you look really mad yesterday. 519 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 2: He's like, Oh, it's my swing. It's my swing. Don't worry. 520 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 2: It'll get there. It'll get there. He's such a perfectionist 521 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 2: and he's so you know, he works so hard at 522 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 2: his craft every day and he just kind of helps 523 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 2: you really truly appreciate, like how much care he puts 524 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 2: into it. Obviously he's super talented and he's super successful, 525 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 2: but you see those little moments on the field. Guy 526 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 2: was not happy at his VP round on a Wednesday, 527 00:26:58,880 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 2: yeah afternoon in. 528 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 1: Clear Water, and he was so mad. 529 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 2: I thought we thought we thought he hurt himself. He was. 530 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 2: He looks so mad out there, but he was just 531 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 2: mad that he wasn't hitting him as perfectly as he 532 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 2: thinks he should be hitting him. 533 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 1: So that so that brings a great brings up a 534 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: great point. So the great ones, really, the great ones, 535 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 1: they are never satisfied. They're perfectionists. I've been around. I 536 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 1: was around Mookie Bets when Mookie Bets was starting to 537 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 1: become Mookie Bets, when I was in Boston in sixteen 538 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: and seventeen. And he's a special special player and he's 539 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 1: not just a special special athlete, but his mindset is 540 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 1: you talk about a perfectionist. I mean I would hit 541 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 1: him fly five balls and ground balls, and he would 542 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: make throws to second base and if he didn't throw 543 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: it right like perfect, one hop every time, he'd make me, 544 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: make me hit him fight five more. And same thing 545 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 1: with his swing, like Chilie Davis used to say, like dude, 546 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 1: why is your dabber down? I mean, he used to 547 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: like hang his hit. He would hit like bullets all 548 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: over the field and VP and he's like, man, I 549 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,880 Speaker 1: swim off, just off, Like dude, do you have any 550 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 1: idea how good you are? But that's what makes these 551 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,239 Speaker 1: guys great. They know what greatness is. They know what 552 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: they have to do to be great. And you know 553 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 1: that that does not that a story about Bryce todd 554 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: Is does not surprise me in the slightest because I've 555 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: seen it so many different times. 556 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 3: I thought Chilling had some of that in them too. 557 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, sure did. Sure they're perfectionists, man like, they know 558 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 1: that if they if they're just a millimeter off of 559 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,479 Speaker 1: their timing is off or the spot they don't hit 560 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: their spots, that they know that they can be exposed. 561 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: Or you know, Holliday was like that too. I mean 562 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: it was a beast. I mean Chase Suttley same way. 563 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: I mean, these guys had an expect expectation of themselves 564 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: that that you know, for me who I and I 565 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 1: played the game and I had high expectations for myself. 566 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 1: But to watch these guys and watch the their match, 567 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: their ability with their work and their expectation pretty extraordinary. 568 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 3: Do you remember the year Chilling? 569 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 4: I think Frank ConA said, well, you know, if he 570 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 4: became a better bunter, you could probably stay in the 571 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 4: game even a little longer. So he worked on his 572 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 4: bunting for a year, became a great bunter, Hilling. 573 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 1: Is that true? 574 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 3: Wow? 575 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 1: That's wild. He made himself a pretty good hitter. He 576 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:23,959 Speaker 1: was pretty good. 577 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 4: He worked on a bunting because he thought it was 578 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 4: a way to stay in games longer. 579 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: Well, Holliday was the same way. Halliday couldn't hit worth 580 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: a lick when he came over from Toronto, but he 581 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: sort of tried to get to the point where he 582 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: could at least get a bunt down or make himself, 583 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: you know, useful as a hitter. 584 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 4: Cool, amazing, They're just I mean, it's greatness. It's obviously 585 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 4: you blessed with talent, but there's so much work, ethic 586 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 4: and smarts behind it. And you met, you know, League Halliday, 587 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 4: all those guys. 588 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: Hey, here's a guy, Manny Ramirez, and you know, you 589 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: talk about what you want to say, man of Mirrors, 590 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: but nobody worked on his hitting more than he did. 591 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: Talk to if you want to talk to Charlie Manuel 592 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 1: about what he was. I mean, this is a guy 593 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: who worked on his hitting for hours and hours and 594 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: hours a day, and that's why he is a hall 595 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 1: was a Hall of Fame hitter. In my estimation, there's 596 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: no question in my mind. 597 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 3: What are the Phillies got next, Todd. 598 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 2: They've got the Nationals beginning Friday, and then they go 599 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 2: down to Saint Louis next week. I don't have John 600 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 2: Cruks on that trip. He owes them a trip to 601 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 2: the arch, to the top of the arch. You remember 602 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 2: that last year. 603 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 1: He is not on that trip because I am my friend. 604 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 2: Oh, he snaked his way out of going up on 605 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 2: the arch. 606 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 3: Don't don't go under the arch, dude. 607 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. That thing does sway. Have 608 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: you been up there? 609 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 3: No, but I know people have been under. 610 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: Oh, I can tell. What do you mean, jim m 611 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 1: all right, we'll keep that there ourselves. So but I've 612 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: been up there. 613 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 2: I do not know. 614 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: I tell you what. I'm afraid of heights. When I 615 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: was up there, Man, that thing was a sway. I 616 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: mean it sways like a lot, so I was. It's 617 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: a little nerve wracking. 618 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 2: I'm gonna avoid it. 619 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 1: I will. Yeah. 620 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 2: But yeah, National's this weekend. You know, another division rival, Cardinals. 621 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 2: They gotta you know, they've gotten some good starting pitching. 622 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 2: They just gotta start hitting the ball a little bit more. 623 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 2: I thought Turnbull pitch pretty well. Christopher Sanchez, the bottom 624 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 2: of the rotation pitch pretty well this week. So they 625 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 2: got to get it going. You guys gotta get going. 626 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 2: Thanks everybody for listening. Maybe next Monday Tuesday we'll get 627 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 2: back together. I'll be in say we'll both be in 628 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 2: Saint Louis. 629 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: I do want to say one thing. They got to 630 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: play these guys a little bit better than they did 631 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 1: last year. I mean, they were what seven and six 632 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: against them last year, and that's not going to get 633 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 1: it done. You gotta do. You gotta do a little 634 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: damage against the teams that are not supposed to be 635 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 1: all that great in your division. Just a thought, wrong, No, 636 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: you gotta. 637 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 638 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 2: I think the Marlins and the Nationals are two teams 639 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 2: they got to just pound to death this season. 640 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,479 Speaker 1: I mean, we don't have to win every game, but 641 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: they you know, they have, you know, three or four 642 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: games over five hundred against. 643 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 2: These guys one hundred per Well, guys, thanks appreciate it, everybody, 644 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 2: Thank you for listening. I don't have an outro song. 645 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 2: I have an intro song that that'll be the next 646 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 2: the next episode, we'll start doing an outro song. You know, uh, 647 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 2: you know, eventually we're gonna go to video. We're gonna 648 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 2: do it all. We we're gonna do it all on 649 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 2: this podcast. So all right, by everybody, Thanks for listening. 650 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 2: Talk to you next week.