WEBVTT - The Anti-Consumer Electronics Show with Steve Burke 0:00:02.480 --> 0:00:03.840 Alzo Media. 0:00:05.080 --> 0:00:07.800 Hello and welcome to Better Offline. I'm your host ed 0:00:07.880 --> 0:00:23.080 ze Tron. We're back in the normal verse after nineteen 0:00:23.200 --> 0:00:26.119 hours of CS coverage. As ever by the merchandise in 0:00:26.160 --> 0:00:28.040 the links in the show notes and subscribed to my 0:00:28.080 --> 0:00:30.800 freaking premium newsletter. Got a banger of a beast coming 0:00:30.800 --> 0:00:33.519 out Friday. But today we're talking once again to the 0:00:33.560 --> 0:00:36.960 incredible Steve Burke of Gamers. Next as how you doing Steve. 0:00:37.040 --> 0:00:37.760 I'm doing well. 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:39.239 How about you doing all? 0:00:39.360 --> 0:00:39.519 Right? 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:44.440 After post CS and just feeling like I was drowning 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:47.680 in nothing is the best way to put out? 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:51.440 Yeah, I mean it was definitely. The keynotes were a 0:00:51.479 --> 0:00:52.880 lot of air. 0:00:53.960 --> 0:00:57.280 Yes, yeah, I mean we can start within video, I 0:00:57.320 --> 0:01:01.000 think because I watched that one in person, and the 0:01:01.040 --> 0:01:04.080 funniest thing was we get there and they're like, there's 0:01:04.520 --> 0:01:07.120 you have to do. This is like a massive line 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:09.640 rounded around the corner, and then there was a different 0:01:09.720 --> 0:01:12.520 line where everyone lined up, only to find out that 0:01:12.520 --> 0:01:16.520 that was actually the line for the viewing party, and 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:19.560 then they let us in and it was standing room only. 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:22.000 Then someone came around and said, actually there were seats, 0:01:22.760 --> 0:01:27.440 and then the actual presentation felt like they just stapled 0:01:27.480 --> 0:01:32.160 together a few GtC speeches and then gave up, Yeah, 0:01:32.200 --> 0:01:33.440 like go. 0:01:34.040 --> 0:01:39.000 Then video one was like, uh, that one I was 0:01:39.000 --> 0:01:42.400 watching with someone on the team, and I want to 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:44.120 say the whole thing was maybe like ninety two or 0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:46.679 ninety three minutes. And then they had the lead in 0:01:46.760 --> 0:01:51.280 as well, and it was you know, the frustrating thing 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:54.600 for me was they had actual news. So on the 0:01:54.640 --> 0:01:57.440 consumer side they had some news the Lusus four point 0:01:57.480 --> 0:01:59.400 five or some other stuff, didn't really get to mention 0:01:59.760 --> 0:02:02.800 that all the keynote. And then even on the enterprise side, 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:05.960 it was like they bury the vera Ruben stuff an 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:11.360 hour deep and they had published this huge article that 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:14.919 was actually pretty interesting on their website about the architecture, 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:17.600 and none of it made it in. 0:02:18.200 --> 0:02:20.400 What was was a lot of the vera Uben stuff 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:23.520 wasn't new though, Like they announced the six so called 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:26.040 new chips that went into it. That was all announced, 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:28.880 like every single one, and they didn't even talk about 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:32.840 the interesting part, which was they really buried the fact that, yeah, 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:36.880 the actual the next stage of this whatever this is 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:39.680 to make it faster and whatever, isn't just the power 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:42.960 of the GPU, but the surrounding hardware, the networking, the 0:02:43.040 --> 0:02:45.680 RAM and so on and so forth, and storage, which 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:50.560 is actually kind of interesting to me. None of that shit, no. 0:02:49.919 --> 0:02:52.799 No, no, Yeah, and Intel did a similar thing where 0:02:52.840 --> 0:02:56.720 Intel re announced Panther Lake. They had a little more 0:02:56.720 --> 0:02:59.560 detail this time, just I guess like Nvidio had a 0:02:59.600 --> 0:03:02.960 little more detail, you know, on Viera Ruben. But ultimately 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:06.720 it's a thing that was announced months ago and it 0:03:06.840 --> 0:03:08.440 was just I don't know. The whole show is kind 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:12.200 of weird. I think easily the worst cees that I've 0:03:12.240 --> 0:03:18.720 ever personally witnessed. Uh and uh yeah it was. It's 0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:23.920 just there's the strangest thing to me was when AMD 0:03:24.200 --> 0:03:28.440 pulled the White House up on stage. 0:03:28.560 --> 0:03:31.160 Actually I missed AMD. Tell me what happened in that 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:32.960 when we can go back to in video in a minute. 0:03:33.040 --> 0:03:36.560 I missed AMD just because the concussion. I sustained watching 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:40.160 Jensen talk. But what happened with AMD? What did they do? Yeah? 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:43.600 I think if you watched another keynote after that, he yeah, 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:46.840 I went in the hospital. So yeah, it was AMD. 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:49.040 Was they? 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:52.160 So they have a new CPU. They have a ninety 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:54.600 eight fifty x MED which is a refresh and a 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:57.080 little bit faster clock. It's like four hundred megger hearts 0:03:57.120 --> 0:04:02.560 or something. Did not mention it a single time they 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:05.360 talked about their helios racks, so they're kind of er rubin, 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:08.080 you know, equivalent discussion. 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:10.480 Yeah, so AIGPU ranks. 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:15.840 Yeah. And then the part that was strange and different 0:04:16.240 --> 0:04:20.440 from even in videos was when they pulled up I 0:04:20.480 --> 0:04:26.359 think his name is Michael Krasios. He's a technology policy 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:31.080 like head advisor for the White House. They pulled him 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:35.520 up on stage and had this clearly rehearsed, scripted conversation. 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:39.160 And this is the guy who is leading sort of 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:47.360 the the federal government charge on stripping down states rights 0:04:47.400 --> 0:04:51.480 for data center and AI regulation, and even on stage 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:53.640 he was talking about how they've been getting rid of 0:04:53.640 --> 0:04:57.880 these obstructions to AI and data center development, and it's 0:04:58.000 --> 0:05:00.080 just I don't know. I was like, I don't know 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:05.440 what the fuck I'm watching because it's like it's CES, 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:09.120 which is put on by the Consumer Technology Association and 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:11.960 they have a consumer product. They didn't mention it, and 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:15.760 now we're having a White House government policy meeting on 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:18.200 AI on stage in front of an audience. You know, 0:05:18.240 --> 0:05:19.840 It's like, what am I watching? 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:23.800 Yeah? And on top of that didn't Greg Brockmann from 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:27.880 Open Aye show up. Yeah, that fucking guy AI for 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:30.400 everyone everywhere, everything at once. 0:05:30.520 --> 0:05:37.440 I guess yeah, he he he he, I don't. I 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:41.200 don't know, man, he like told some stories I questioned 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:45.520 the veracity of about how AI has saved the lives 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:48.800 of people and oh blah blah blah. And then they 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:56.240 talked about a child management optimization what what he had 0:05:56.279 --> 0:06:00.720 a He had a line about everyone, you know, raise 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:04.480 your hand if you've had an important moment in your 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:07.520 life and something has happened to you, like the birth 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:10.159 of a child. And I'm not even I'm not trying 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:12.960 to make it ridiculous, like that is basically what he said. 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:16.480 And audience is dead silent. Yeah, and then he talks 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:19.039 about how, yeah, the goal is to get there and 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:23.560 have AI provide these or help with these important moments 0:06:23.600 --> 0:06:27.560 and optimize them. And this after he's talking about managing 0:06:27.720 --> 0:06:31.839 you know, children and you had of course managing children, 0:06:32.440 --> 0:06:33.720 well you had Sam Altman on. 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:38.520 A Jimmy Fallon. I love going on TV just be like, 0:06:38.560 --> 0:06:41.960 I don't know what to do chat GPT. Yeah, it's 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:45.479 it's so weird. It feels like living, it feels like 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:49.400 living through a giant gas lighting, just like everybody pretending 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:52.280 and I'm gonna guess, I'm gonna guess. Nobody brought up 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:54.200 the data centers they're meant to be building for this 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:57.080 year either. They just were like, we love we love 0:06:57.200 --> 0:06:58.760 number go up, don't we folks. 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:04.000 Yeah, I mean if they didn't, there wasn't any detail really, yeah, 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:04.880 no specifics. 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:09.680 And also to your point, Consumer Electronics Show, Consumer for 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:11.040 the for the consumers. 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:15.880 Yeah, nothing again owned by the Consumer Technology Association. So 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:19.280 it's like the I don't know, the whole thing was 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:23.280 just it's fine if that's what you wanted to be, fine, right, 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:27.360 but like that's a different show. 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:31.360 Yeah, but we were promised and back to in video 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:35.080 for a second. I will also say that it was 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:39.000 fucking I give Jensen want some real credit here, And 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:41.840 that's if you were going to start your it's your 0:07:41.960 --> 0:07:45.200 it's really a make or break here for AI. The 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:48.360 first thing I think when I'm thinking AI make or break, 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:51.480 I've got to really blow the stocks off is half 0:07:51.640 --> 0:07:53.960 of the show, like forty five minutes straight about the 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:55.200 fucking omnibus. 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:57.200 Oh yeah. 0:07:57.400 --> 0:07:59.720 I sat there and I had David Roth from DEFECTO 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:05.360 with me trying to explain what the omniverse was and 0:08:05.520 --> 0:08:08.880 just being like, I think it's computer simulations. 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:15.200 Yeah, so that's seeing if you're talking about and videos omniverse. Yes, yeah, 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:18.360 it's there, Like you can use it if I remember 0:08:18.360 --> 0:08:19.800 it correct, that you can use it to make digital 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:23.760 twins of things. Yeah, like or at least that's their 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:26.120 buzzword for it. But yeah, they've had some examples in 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:28.280 the past of using it for like logistics mapping and 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:34.559 for planning around things like typhoons and Taiwan and simulations. 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:39.160 Yeah. Interesting Yeah, well interesting isn't the word. It wasn't interesting. 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:41.720 It was so very it was so very boring. 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:47.319 Well, you know, I've seen but I've seen some. It's funny. 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:53.200 Some of the limited sort of pushback I've seen online 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:58.040 against the negativity about what's going on right now has 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:01.640 just been well, why is every one so negative? Everybody's 0:09:02.960 --> 0:09:07.600 everyone's very critical. Everything's dumerism, it's Ai doomerism, it's you know, 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:12.959 it's it's very negative. And you know, I read that stuff. 0:09:13.000 --> 0:09:14.880 I try to factor it and consider it. And like, 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:17.560 we ran a piece that was really positive today as 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:22.480 a palate cleanser after CS because cs was actually genuinely awful. 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:28.200 What do you think about that, because that's that's uh 0:09:28.240 --> 0:09:29.400 I'm sure you see that too. 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:32.040 Well. I mean when he says AI doomerism, is he 0:09:32.120 --> 0:09:34.920 talking about the people saying that the bubble will burst? 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:40.600 If we're talking Jensen Huan, then I think, yeah, he 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:45.199 just did an interview with some podcast. I think it's 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:49.120 called no Priors or something, and uh, oh, yes, it 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:52.520 would be no Prior yeah, and so in that he 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:59.000 said for him, I think dumerism is, to use his words, 0:09:59.040 --> 0:10:02.120 like the science fiction version of AI in the future. 0:10:02.640 --> 0:10:07.280 Okay, I if he's saying that's bad, I agree because 0:10:07.800 --> 0:10:09.800 but not for the reason he probably says it's bad 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:11.560 because he doesn't want people to be scared of AI 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:14.439 so they keep buying it. I say it's bad because 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:18.559 it's a lie, because they because they're lying. They're lying 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:22.360 about it. They're just they're making stuff up. It's just 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:22.920 just lying. 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:26.440 Oh it's interesting too, because you could you could spin 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:28.240 that both ways. But it's like it could be the 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:32.240 well we're talking about the companies. You know, their version 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:35.040 of AI in the Future is also a science fiction 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:37.440 it's just the utopia version. 0:10:37.840 --> 0:10:39.040 Uh yes, and like. 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:45.240 There's yeah, there's there's ground between Terminator and Utopia, but 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:48.600 it's kind of a hand wavy dismissal right, to just 0:10:48.640 --> 0:10:55.120 be like all this negativity is is unreasonable. And in 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:59.199 that same interview he was talking about how it's it's 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:01.880 sort of hurtful I think was the word he used 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:09.760 or harmful, uh and and you know, damaging, And the 0:11:10.200 --> 0:11:16.080 general vibe I got was like, this negativity is hurtful 0:11:16.200 --> 0:11:21.760 to society as a whole. Can't you please buy my product? 0:11:22.920 --> 0:11:24.719 Well that was the weird thing as well, like they 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:28.559 did the whole Vera Ruben song and dance at that presentation, 0:11:29.679 --> 0:11:32.400 and they didn't they're not talking pricing yet, they're not 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:34.959 talking about anything. And then they made the comment where 0:11:34.960 --> 0:11:39.480 it's like and Vera Ruben is now in manufacturing and 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:44.040 dead silent, just dead sub partly because that doesn't mean anything. 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:47.280 I assume, I'm gonna be honest, I assumed it was 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:51.280 in manufacturing. They're meant to be shipping them soon, like right, 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:54.520 what was with people? Were people like, oh, they haven't 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:57.200 put them together yet. They just I don't know, And 0:11:57.240 --> 0:11:59.560 there was that I think it was Patrick moorehead as well. 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:02.000 During it who was saying, like, you know, the crowd 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:04.560 went wild, which it didn't this crowd. The crowd went 0:12:04.679 --> 0:12:08.520 to quote someone on Twitter, the crowd went mild was 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:09.480 the best way of putting it. 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:11.720 Yeah. You could hear like a couple claps. 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:13.679 You know, Yeah, and I could. I've never and I've 0:12:13.679 --> 0:12:16.360 watched a lot of press conferences, good and bad. I've 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:17.360 never heard a cough. 0:12:18.920 --> 0:12:22.760 And it was just like, yeah, I mean, if you 0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:24.800 dropped your phone after that, you would have heard it 0:12:24.840 --> 0:12:26.920 on Yes on the crowd Mike. 0:12:27.559 --> 0:12:31.679 But another great part of that was the the robots. 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:33.920 And he brought in the robots, which I did not 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:36.400 realize was Star Wars robots. He kind of muttered it 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:39.160 under his breath, and I thought, oh, he just thinks 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:42.520 Star Wars is about robots, I get. I just thought 0:12:42.559 --> 0:12:46.120 it was like almost a boomery thing. It was like, yeah, 0:12:46.320 --> 0:12:49.800 you know, robots, but apparently it's the robots from Jedi 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:52.800 Fallen Order. It is. Yeah, that's so weird. 0:12:52.600 --> 0:12:54.240 Because he brought them out. The long reason I know 0:12:54.320 --> 0:12:56.840 that is because they brought them out last time as well. 0:12:56.920 --> 0:12:58.640 I think COMPUTEXT or GtC. 0:12:59.040 --> 0:12:59.840 That's so sad. 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:03.319 Yeah, and so last time they brought them out. That 0:13:03.440 --> 0:13:07.400 was when he was I don't know if he was 0:13:07.440 --> 0:13:12.000 actually frustrated, if he was like joking frustrated, but they 0:13:12.040 --> 0:13:15.800 weren't responding to the commands properly, and they got kind 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:19.640 of stuck. The green one wouldn't move. This time, they 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:22.760 responded to the commands more. But it was strange because 0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:28.960 there he was using the second person you from that 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:31.360 point on, and sometimes it wasn't clear to me if 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:33.280 he was talking to the audience or to the customer 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:35.960 or to the robots. And he was talking to the robots. 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:39.080 He was like there was one I didn't talk about 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:42.000 this in the video, but there's a clip we've used 0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:45.240 where he says he's talking to the robot and he says, 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:50.559 and we're actually gonna give you're gonna be born in 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:54.600 these systems. Yes, that was so he had this like 0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:56.640 give birth, you know, and then he cut himself off. 0:13:57.160 --> 0:13:58.960 I was like, what the hell? 0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:00.840 He was so strange, and he was like to and 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:02.800 he talked to them for what felt like an hour. 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:05.720 It was like they're twenty or thirty minutes, and he 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:08.760 was like, yogot, this is how we build you. And 0:14:08.800 --> 0:14:10.320 he turned and he looked at the picture of the 0:14:10.400 --> 0:14:14.440 robots behind him that was from GtC, like we've seen 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:16.640 that picture before. He's like, this is where we're traying. 0:14:16.720 --> 0:14:19.200 These are your these are They're like you, these are 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:21.680 your friends, And it's just like, mate, you are worrying 0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:25.400 a I assume twenty five thousand dollars leather jacket. Your 0:14:25.440 --> 0:14:28.200 company is the largest on the stock market. Why are 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:32.000 you talking to them? To quote David Rath from DEFECTA, 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:36.880 like you're offering them skittles? Like it was so bizarre it. 0:14:37.560 --> 0:14:39.640 I think that we're going to look back on that 0:14:39.680 --> 0:14:43.280 press conference as like the top because I went and 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:47.120 I rewatched GtC twenty twenty five. I watched some of 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:49.920 his other like even his analyst things. He used to 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:53.760 have this like braggadacious swagger. He would trot around. He 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:56.480 had a big smart Even last CS he had he 0:14:56.560 --> 0:14:59.640 did the Avengers sheet, like the Avengers shield, They're they're 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:01.800 gonna eat melted me about the Avenger shield, the Captain 0:15:01.800 --> 0:15:04.760 America shield thing, and like he he felt kind of 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:07.280 like up and at them. This time he was like, ah, 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:10.800 you know, got some shit. I guess you want to look, 0:15:10.800 --> 0:15:13.240 We're gonna maybe do it. I didn't even catch that 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:18.160 they're planning to do a Robotaxi service. Yeah, I didn't. 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:22.040 I was watching and listening, but it was not super obvious. 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:24.400 Yeah, I know some people who were who tried it 0:15:24.440 --> 0:15:25.920 and were like actually impressed by it. 0:15:26.600 --> 0:15:30.440 I mean, it's a Robotaxi. We've the cool but like 0:15:31.640 --> 0:15:34.200 but just also like, you're in video, what are you doing? 0:15:34.960 --> 0:15:38.400 Yeah. We we went back on the team here and 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:41.600 we were looking at some of their older keynotes because 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:44.880 I was basically has it always been, like I'm just 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:48.040 not remembering it right? And no, I mean they were 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:49.760 a lot tighter in the past. Like if you go 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:54.280 back to nine hundred series ten series era keynotes and 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:57.840 how long ago is that, That'd be twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, right, 0:15:57.880 --> 0:16:00.960 maybe twenty fourteen. Yeah, and yeah, so you go back 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:04.880 to that reigne of two to three years and generally 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:08.400 they were tighter together. It's interesting how much I mean 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:12.160 we all change. Certainly, I've my hosting style has changed 0:16:12.200 --> 0:16:14.320 on camera. You know, if you're running ten years apart, 0:16:14.360 --> 0:16:17.640 then yeah, it's like a totally different person. But it 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:20.840 is interesting though to see his change in particular where 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:28.280 the the gaffs and the sort of silliness. Back then, 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:33.080 they were more of like your your uncle is telling old, 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:37.040 tired jokes that you've heard a million times, but you know, 0:16:37.280 --> 0:16:41.200 but it was like it was a likable style and 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:48.000 now it's just like, instead the jokes are things that 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:49.640 I don't know. You're just kind of like you should 0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:50.440 have to fuck up? 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:53.320 Can you tell me about do you have a graphics god? 0:16:53.400 --> 0:16:56.000 You could show me? Can I see a graphics god? 0:16:56.120 --> 0:16:58.800 What are you talking about? Yeah? What do you? And 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:04.760 he also just psychoanalyzing Jensen woea. But he seemed unconfident, 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:07.720 Like even when he was being a huge asshole last 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:09.720 year when he was like saying, you broke the audio 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:12.600 thing to the guy he named right, even then he 0:17:12.640 --> 0:17:15.600 seemed confident. He seemed excited. He was kind of like, yeah, 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:18.639 let's go this year. He was like, and we've got 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:22.760 we've got some you want to see the omnibus. I 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:26.040 guess look Fear of Rube and it's so powerful. There 0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:31.160 were less slides. Yeah, I actually fly went lot. I mean, 0:17:31.480 --> 0:17:34.200 he just kind of seemed like he didn't have anything new, 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:36.639 probably because he didn't. 0:17:37.480 --> 0:17:40.800 It's so weird though, because like at least with and 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:43.679 not to make it all about gaming, but you know, 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:45.359 it's it's kind of like if you're gonna make space 0:17:45.400 --> 0:17:51.240 for robotaxis and for robots and AI and omniverse and okay, 0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:53.560 so there's a little carve out for everybody. Everybody's got 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:56.600 there ten or twenty minutes, and it's the gaming stuff. 0:17:56.640 --> 0:18:01.800 It's like there was actually new stuff there, and it 0:18:01.840 --> 0:18:05.080 could have replaced any number of other things. But I 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:11.199 was almost just uncertain if do they feel like the 0:18:11.880 --> 0:18:17.159 gaming topics sort of devalue what they do in the 0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:21.320 business enterprise world, like they if they talk about gaming 0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:24.439 for you know, five minutes in the keynote, are they 0:18:24.440 --> 0:18:27.280 worried their stock price is gonna go to our Yeah? 0:18:27.440 --> 0:18:30.360 Like I couldn't figure out why I wouldn't get a presence. 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:34.080 I mean, I think I think they're just scrambling. I 0:18:34.119 --> 0:18:37.720 don't think they know what to do anymore. There's a 0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:41.520 lot of the kind of key jingling going on. I 0:18:41.520 --> 0:18:44.280 think they just like have fucked. But even then that 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:46.959 was what that's actually I don't know if I actually 0:18:47.480 --> 0:18:50.320 agree with that thinking about it, because why did you 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:53.200 talk about the omnibus? Why talk about that at all? 0:18:53.240 --> 0:18:55.359 When you don't appear to be able to explain what 0:18:55.440 --> 0:18:57.720 it is. But I think I talk to a few 0:18:57.720 --> 0:19:00.119 analysts AFT towards as well, like good ones that you 0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:02.080 know what they're talking about, so not the one's on Twitter, 0:19:02.640 --> 0:19:06.000 and all of them pretty much came the same conclusion, 0:19:06.040 --> 0:19:08.600 which was, this was a half hearted attempt to claim 0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:10.400 the GPUs can do something else. 0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:14.280 Oh yeah, sure, yeah, trying to start creating a carve 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:19.800 out for if if interest wanes or whatever and the 0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:22.560 other you know, an AI or other applications didn't. 0:19:22.320 --> 0:19:27.879 Really work because it was impossible to it was impossible 0:19:27.880 --> 0:19:30.439 to actually divine what it was they were selling. Also, 0:19:30.480 --> 0:19:33.080 it didn't help that that morning the Information put out 0:19:33.160 --> 0:19:37.080 story saying the Omnipus sugged that like nobody would buy it. 0:19:37.080 --> 0:19:39.000 It did, but that was crazy though. That was one 0:19:39.000 --> 0:19:42.680 part of that story that I'm unsurprised that they didn't 0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:45.400 talk about on there. But apparently in Video has been 0:19:45.440 --> 0:19:50.760 paying the cloud. They've been paying various cloud providers money 0:19:50.840 --> 0:19:57.359 to rent capacity so that people can do omniveruse stuff. Yeah, 0:19:57.760 --> 0:20:01.840 but I mean it sucks, like it just doesn't work 0:20:01.880 --> 0:20:05.359 so good because also digital twin stuff is being around 0:20:05.400 --> 0:20:07.120 for a while and I. 0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:11.520 Guess it's yeah, it is interesting, Like, I mean, that 0:20:11.640 --> 0:20:13.320 is one of the ones where the first time I 0:20:13.359 --> 0:20:15.880 saw one of their digital twin demos was before they 0:20:15.880 --> 0:20:18.760 were throwing around AI as much as they are, and 0:20:18.800 --> 0:20:22.000 I was a buzzword, and I mean I do remember 0:20:22.040 --> 0:20:24.400 I was like, okay, I yeah, no, this, I kind 0:20:24.400 --> 0:20:26.600 of get this this And because the example they were 0:20:26.600 --> 0:20:29.080 giving at the time when I first really saw it 0:20:29.160 --> 0:20:32.000 was they had a weather simulation, but they also had 0:20:32.119 --> 0:20:37.240 a warehouse simulation, and they were using it to show, 0:20:37.359 --> 0:20:39.280 you know, at the time, instead of AI, it was 0:20:39.320 --> 0:20:42.399 more commonly referred to as like machine learning, right, and 0:20:42.840 --> 0:20:46.680 using it to show how you might digitally replicate a 0:20:46.720 --> 0:20:50.960 warehouse and all the stocking and then map out how 0:20:52.000 --> 0:20:58.000 people and robots move and interact with the warehouse, right, Like, Okay, 0:20:58.240 --> 0:20:58.800 this I get. 0:20:58.840 --> 0:21:01.400 I mean, this is like, yeah, it makes sense. It 0:21:01.440 --> 0:21:03.520 isn't a complete vaporware. 0:21:03.080 --> 0:21:07.840 Product, But they're not really like that's already been done. 0:21:07.960 --> 0:21:10.800 You know, that's been They showed that a long time ago. 0:21:11.000 --> 0:21:15.280 So it's also just not a sexy story, even though 0:21:15.320 --> 0:21:19.480 it's very likely useful to someone. 0:21:19.520 --> 0:21:25.600 Not an interesting story at the consumer technology association's ces. 0:21:25.840 --> 0:21:30.320 You know, it's like, yeah, oh great, cool, I'll yeah, I'll. 0:21:30.680 --> 0:21:35.000 I can't wait. So I as a consumer technology person, 0:21:35.119 --> 0:21:37.680 we'll look forward to doing something. And it was also 0:21:37.880 --> 0:21:40.919 not obvious what it was meant to be, like he 0:21:40.920 --> 0:21:44.320 didn't do like a traditional product rundown and well, one 0:21:44.359 --> 0:21:46.880 could argue the people that want this don't need that. 0:21:47.840 --> 0:21:50.600 It was still a keynote. Yeah, still a keynote. You're 0:21:50.640 --> 0:21:52.240 meant to be showing things that the keynote. 0:21:52.520 --> 0:21:55.760 Yeah, And I mean I think also he did mention 0:21:55.920 --> 0:21:57.960 palet heer like three, oh, yes. 0:21:57.880 --> 0:22:10.000 He did, just reading a quote from the information. The 0:22:10.080 --> 0:22:12.359 problem might be that and I quote developers who have 0:22:12.440 --> 0:22:15.560 used Omniverse two for building and simulating scenes and objects 0:22:15.920 --> 0:22:17.720 often say the software was hard to use, that it 0:22:17.760 --> 0:22:22.000 easily broken, that its features felt incomplete. So who knows 0:22:22.000 --> 0:22:25.320 what could have happened there? I don't know, I think, 0:22:25.840 --> 0:22:29.600 but Nvidio actually announced stuff though they just chose not 0:22:29.640 --> 0:22:33.600 to announce it at their announcement. Yeah, I mean great, 0:22:33.960 --> 0:22:37.119 what did they announce because I truly missed it. I 0:22:37.240 --> 0:22:38.360 truly I was there. 0:22:38.840 --> 0:22:42.720 Yeah, it's like it wasn't huge. But also they had 0:22:45.280 --> 0:22:47.800 they've had announcements in the past that weren't huge. So 0:22:47.960 --> 0:22:50.560 like back in the day when they were pushing I'm 0:22:50.600 --> 0:22:52.560 trying to remember the name of it, it was like game 0:22:53.600 --> 0:22:57.280 something anyway, they had they had a program where Game Works, 0:22:57.280 --> 0:23:00.400 that's what it was. It had some controversy over the years, 0:23:00.440 --> 0:23:02.200 like all their products, but even when it was just 0:23:02.240 --> 0:23:05.200 game Works, where they were, hey, here's some developer tools 0:23:05.240 --> 0:23:09.240 to make graphics look better, easier, it was kind of 0:23:09.240 --> 0:23:13.879