WEBVTT - Brian Kennedy 0:00:01.960 --> 0:00:03.079 R and B Money. 0:00:03.200 --> 0:00:06.120 Honey, we are. 0:00:07.680 --> 0:00:13.960 Thank take Balati. We are the authorities on. 0:00:15.560 --> 0:00:15.960 R and B. 0:00:18.079 --> 0:00:18.919 Ladies and gentlemen. 0:00:19.000 --> 0:00:22.759 My name is Tank and this is the Army Money Podcast, 0:00:22.800 --> 0:00:24.760 the authority on all things. 0:00:25.040 --> 0:00:26.360 Are and behind technical. 0:00:26.560 --> 0:00:28.560 I am am articulated, are you? 0:00:28.880 --> 0:00:34.320 I'm being very very technical about being intentional because the 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:38.840 gift UH is at a high level, high level. There 0:00:38.840 --> 0:00:45.320 are prodigies here excellence that starts damn near the womb 0:00:45.760 --> 0:00:50.040 what uh. And we're going to get into the conversations 0:00:50.120 --> 0:00:53.840 of what that excellence and the tutelage and that learning 0:00:54.160 --> 0:01:00.840 and that gift has brought the pass ladies and gentlemen, songwriter, producers, musician, 0:01:00.920 --> 0:01:03.120 extraordinary Brian. 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:12.720 Man tea in the back to have t when you're excellent? 0:01:12.760 --> 0:01:18.840 You got little doughnuts? How you doing, brother, I'm blast man. 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:21.520 It's been a month of Sundays. 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:23.039 Good to see you. It's great to see you. 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:27.760 The only thing I know about you is that you're 0:01:27.760 --> 0:01:34.320 an awesome human being, beyond kind hearted and your gift is. 0:01:33.520 --> 0:01:38.480 Out of this world. Thank you, not a not a 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:40.920 not a bad. 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:47.400 Nothing ever on your name ever, which is tough in 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:49.920 this space, especially when you've had the kind of success 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:52.720 you've had because you could have easily turned into anything. 0:01:55.960 --> 0:02:00.240 I was like, I know his parents, they weren't going. 0:02:01.120 --> 0:02:10.400 Bringing the crazy cring and disturb yond Conkybie should be 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:11.480 here and five. 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:14.000 Y'all. 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:17.400 Wow, man, that's crazy though, that's real, like, but I mean, 0:02:17.440 --> 0:02:21.400 it's just it's the it's it's the unfortunate nature of 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:26.400 the business where the access can take you if you 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:31.760 are not grounded in something solid. And even when grounded, man, 0:02:31.760 --> 0:02:36.480 they can get you're telling me, you know, I woke 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:39.880 up many and many and many a bed roommate. Who 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:42.399 else is it? Like? This baby is there? 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:48.440 What it's not? It's you can't have babies that. 0:02:52.040 --> 0:02:54.480 Yeah, that's hilarious. Man. Look, I'm going to kids to 0:02:54.560 --> 0:02:55.440 make some food. You want some. 0:02:56.600 --> 0:02:58.520 Don't ever be a nigga who spent the night making 0:02:58.600 --> 0:02:59.960 food when the kids wake up. 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:05.160 Never been that guy the baby's home, I've never. 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:15.919 I've never been. Oh, bro speak Brian, Yes, sir, let's 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:27.600 let's let's let's go back to the beginning. Up man barbecues. Yes, yes, absolutely. 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:32.080 Is it a church house somewhere where they say brought 0:03:32.240 --> 0:03:33.320 up boy right there? 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:33.640 Boy? 0:03:33.680 --> 0:03:37.600 You got that one. Oh my god, you can't see 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:42.200 Missouri obviously grew up, I can't city. My parents had 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:44.600 an old beat down piano. That's where I started. Uh 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:48.000 it's old Steinway that was in the house and that's 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:51.119 probably like four or five man, and I was see 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:53.400 it and so I was intrigued by it. I just 0:03:53.440 --> 0:03:55.520 started banging on it. My parents like just give them 0:03:55.560 --> 0:03:58.119 lessons like that, you know. I was going to church obviously, 0:03:58.600 --> 0:04:00.840 as we all do, and I I was always intrigued 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:03.880 by the drums first, and then I got to the piano, 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:06.840 had some lessons and the teacher was like, yeah, he's 0:04:06.880 --> 0:04:09.800 not focused enough. And my brother was taking lessons with me, Kevin, 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:12.360 because he's more calm, collected and more just he's more 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:15.360 you know, strategy wise. And I got kicked out the 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:18.080 pan lessons. Bro, that's my first got kicked out. It 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:19.400 was like, I don't think it's for him to the 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:21.680 point to where he's like he just doesn't focus. And 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:24.840 then after I got kicked out, I started going to 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:27.040 church again, started playing. I was like, oh, I'm listening 0:04:27.120 --> 0:04:29.960 to the radio some Brian miannight or I'm hearing things 0:04:30.000 --> 0:04:31.560 like yo, I can play that star. I started just 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:33.240 picking the part and I was like, if I can 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:34.680 figure out at a young age, I knew, if I 0:04:34.680 --> 0:04:37.120 can figure out how to eliminate every wrong on this, 0:04:37.279 --> 0:04:39.120 I can only get it right. That's not my mentality. 0:04:39.160 --> 0:04:41.400 So I started just every day she started banging on 0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:43.040 the piano. I was like, one day, this is gonna 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:45.680 sound like something crazy, and then more I started doing it, 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:47.960 and then moro, I started practicing. The marrows started feeling it. 0:04:48.160 --> 0:04:49.599 And keep in mind too, I got you know, our 0:04:49.640 --> 0:04:52.240 brothers listened to like rap, my sisters listening to like 0:04:52.279 --> 0:04:54.919 some Kenny g My dad's mom listened to Temptations, So 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:57.359 it's always like some musical pharaoh. Faris will of like 0:04:57.440 --> 0:05:00.279 just different inspiration. And then they started clicking droude. And 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:03.200 then at the church, I was like, young man, you 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:05.360 know your gift serve the Lord. I was like, how 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:07.840 much is this I'm gonna get favorites or not? You 0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:09.800 know type of thing you wanted to know that early well, 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:11.840 because I always figured man, because I've seen people gigging. 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:14.520 I knew a gigging was. I'm like people getting getting paid. 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:16.200 How old were you at this point, I like eight 0:05:16.360 --> 0:05:17.719 eight nine. 0:05:19.000 --> 0:05:22.320 I knew that at a young age. 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:26.400 But what what you got on on my on my 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:30.120 nerve set, because you know, I'm seeing people, you know, 0:05:30.279 --> 0:05:32.880 getting a little money here you don't money. 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:36.240 But because I knew, I was like at this at 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:37.800 that time, I knew, I was like, I want to 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:39.360 be a musician for the rest of my life. I 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:41.919 want to do something. Then immediately because I was like, 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:44.159 I just love it too much, And I discovered a 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:47.800 way when I was playing to feel something more than 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:52.440 just like the the excitement from no no no, I 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:55.200 would actually get spiritually like I'm like, man, I feel like, dude, 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:59.280 I'm hearing the music, I'm feeling it, like getting like 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:01.960 like this is crazy that this does that, you know. 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:04.240 And then like you know, friends down the street come over, 0:06:04.279 --> 0:06:06.160 and I remember one time it's a little girl right 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:07.800 down the streets to my friends from school came in. 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:10.000 I was like, let me play something. I'm playing. I'm 0:06:10.000 --> 0:06:12.359 playing a piano and brose, she just started crying. I'm like, dude, 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:15.400 what the hell just happened. I'm like, what does this 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:18.200 even me? I'm like, you cool with what happened? She's like, 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:20.200 she's the way you play type of thing, and I 0:06:20.240 --> 0:06:23.400 was just like, Yo, this is something more deeper than 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:27.239 just being adult. For me, it was never about like musicianship. 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:29.799 I love musicians, I love being part of the musician community, 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:31.440 but I just can't It's an ego that comes with 0:06:31.480 --> 0:06:34.480 that that I just can't identify with. So that's why 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:36.919 I started taking like more contemporary and I still do 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:39.320 costom stuff too, obviously in church, but I was like, 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:42.440 I don't do something like Bruce Hornsby or George Winston Route. 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:44.479 But when when I saw that, I was like, well, 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:46.880 I can get If it's her, I get one hundred 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:50.360 more hers and I sell a CD. Then we popping. 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:52.640 And so I started a little jazz label that's like 0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:54.200 twelve one Team. 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:58.640 Yeah, that was was It's not because I seen the CDs. 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:03.480 I started this is wow. I did my album at 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:16.400 his house because I want my money. What Yeah, I 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:18.120 was like, man, I want to do this for real. 0:07:18.440 --> 0:07:21.280 So what was was, was anybody in place to kind 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:23.920 of give you any type of direction on how to 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:24.840 get to all of. 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:27.040 That that he coming in He was like, okay, so 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:28.880 all right, I see you got your music stuff going on, 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:30.960 and so what is your plan? Because he always gives 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:32.960 us like tapes on stocks and stuff that I didn't 0:07:33.000 --> 0:07:35.160 care about that, at least the way he was presenting it, 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:36.680 because he would read every day and he was just 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:38.560 more of a j know was my dad. He's more 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:40.520 of a like dadda. He was like, Yo, get up, 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:42.200 you're gonna do this. We're gonna the Joe Jackson vice. 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:44.320 But mine is getting you know, beat up anything we 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:48.720 don't allegedly allegedly sorry, I'm sorry, my bad, sorry, allegedly 0:07:48.840 --> 0:07:55.160 I got it. Allegedly got it cool? Edit, Okay, like 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:57.680 hold on, man's good. But now he would sit down 0:07:57.720 --> 0:07:59.040 with me and be like, all right, if you're serious 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:01.440 about this, I want you to practic every day, and 0:08:01.480 --> 0:08:03.760 then became repetition and I was like, damn, I want 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:05.680 to practice, and he's like, now we're gonna go. So 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:09.400 I took some UMKC college courses when I was in 0:08:09.440 --> 0:08:11.840 middle school to learn the theory of it because my 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:13.280 ear is much faster than my eyes. 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:16.240 Okay, so here's what I want to say. What I 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:19.040 want to say to that because I experienced that as 0:08:19.080 --> 0:08:22.480 a kid trying to take lessons. The thing about when 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:27.160 I was in there taking lessons is that it wasn't 0:08:27.200 --> 0:08:32.960 what I heard that made me excited about playing the 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:36.240 piano in the first place. When I got there and 0:08:36.280 --> 0:08:39.320 they put me in you know, middle C with both 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:47.520 my thumbs and we started playing whatever this classical basicness was. 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:50.440 I was like a classical basics. I was like, no, no, 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:52.920 I want to. 0:08:53.480 --> 0:09:00.199 Yeah, have you have you heard Charlie Brown? Yeah? I 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:00.560 want to. 0:09:00.760 --> 0:09:03.880 How do we you have to start here? But I 0:09:03.920 --> 0:09:09.720 don't want it? And it wasn't that what we're learning now. 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:14.000 It wasn't that you didn't have the attention span to learn. 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:16.640 They didn't know how to get your attention. 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:18.560 They didn't promote the creativity. 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:20.280 They didn't know where to meet him. 0:09:21.440 --> 0:09:24.880 Like my son when he started his piano lesson, the 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:27.240 first thing his piano teacher asked him was what do 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:32.560 you like? And he was like, I like, what's supposed 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:33.880 to the thing with the kids be flying in the rooms 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:34.200 and ship? 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:37.040 Uh Harry Potter. I like Harry Potter. 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:40.280 She was like, Okay, let's learn Harry Potter's tight and 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:43.600 here's the theory behind Harry Potter, and here's how you played. 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:46.280 This is what And he learned Harry Potter learns how 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:49.120 to read it and play it, transpose it. 0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:55.079 See a teacher at a rusting lady was like if 0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:56.520 you was in my country with chop your hands. I 0:09:56.720 --> 0:10:00.800 was like, yo, yeah, this is like this is in 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:03.160 middle school. So I'm now I'm in middle school doing 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:05.560 my thing. And then I'm like yo, and she's being 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:07.760 super She's like, you have potential. And every time I 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:10.720 would do something like that, they couldn't process. It was 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:13.440 like what is this? What is this junk is? I'm like, yo, 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:18.800 this is this sounds like something. I'm like, I'm like, man, 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:21.880 what And then I just started So I started just 0:10:22.480 --> 0:10:24.520 watching her and I just learned and started playing. Some 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:26.040 men learn to play this, so I can just pass 0:10:26.080 --> 0:10:29.120 this class. So I became passive learning, so which gave 0:10:29.160 --> 0:10:31.800 me the ability to recognize how fast I can learn music, 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:34.720 and I want to transfer that to like a business. 0:10:34.760 --> 0:10:36.440 I was always trying to get to and not for 0:10:36.480 --> 0:10:38.079 the sake of just game, but just like I want 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:39.679 to because I knew at a young age is like 0:10:39.720 --> 0:10:42.040 I gotta, you know, prepare for life as much as 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:43.719 like I don't know why. I'm like my dad had 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:43.840 to go. 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:47.240 I'm trying to figure out who you are early but 0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:48.679 my early businessman. 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:50.520 Yeah, like my dad, you know. He was just like, yo, 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:53.360 this is no businesses. You know, you know, chores and 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:55.000 you know. So it wasn't it wasn't a do or 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:57.960 dim mentality. But I was just always fascinated, you know, 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:01.120 And I always one thing my parents do often will 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:04.000 take us open houses when we were young. So we 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:06.360 live in the inner city, you know, a nice house, 0:11:06.360 --> 0:11:08.640 middle class. Now it's like popping all the way, but 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:10.480 we would go out to like North Kansas City and 0:11:10.480 --> 0:11:12.240 look at these big mansions. So at a young age, 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:14.640 I was like, yo, I won't live like this. One 0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:16.600 day my dad was like, for sales, it don't say 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:18.640 for sale for who, so if you want it, you 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:19.400 gotta work hard for it. 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:22.040 And I was like, I don't say for sale for who, 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:23.360 it just has for sale. 0:11:23.360 --> 0:11:25.080 And I was like, do you think I can get 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:27.439 a BMW in high school? He was like, now, maybe 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:28.920 if you can afford it. I never got it, But 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:31.319 the point was I was just highly motivated, and then 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:33.360 somewhere along the way I just started feeling the passion 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:35.920 of it and then just getting into like this life 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:37.680 of it all. And so then the business kind of 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:39.840 doing it away a little bit. I just started focusing 0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:41.600 on just loving music and being normal. 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:44.079 Did you go to that uh what is it called? 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:45.320 For sale? For Sale High School? 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:46.679 That's the that's the music school. 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:48.920 Yeah, yeah for sure. So you went there too, Yeah, 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:52.000 that's that's how they running. Okay, yeah, for Sale high School. 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:52.160 Man. 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:55.400 And it was a class called applied Technology. It was 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:57.960 room two twenty two, mister Ransom, And I was like, 0:11:57.960 --> 0:12:00.000 what is this class as opposed to taking another class? 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:02.440 Look at these niggas that remember the classes they took. 0:12:02.480 --> 0:12:04.839 Oh? Man, it was crazy. It was master tracks. I said, 0:12:04.840 --> 0:12:07.079 what is master tracks? My boy Charles was like, you 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:09.040 play piano, dope, But he's like, when you make beats, 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:10.840 it's crazier. I was like, man, I played piano, bro 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:17.320 I'm a concert beats concert piano doing at the Milan Theater. 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:19.880 So he was late. 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:22.000 He said, trembling make it. I was like, well, I 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:24.000 like trembling stuff is dope. And I was like, wait 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:25.920 a minute, let me So I went in there started 0:12:25.920 --> 0:12:28.520 remaking beats. I started making Michael Myers flips and like 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:30.920 and then Take nine obviously is still killing it. And 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:32.760 that was the goal and that was the mark, that 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:34.520 was the focus. I was like, let me start making beats, 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:36.160 and every day I was to get better, and I 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:38.280 was like, this is dope. We're making beats on this 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:40.960 thing called master Tracks. It was a black and white screen, 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:43.480 so it was like edit like it was just master tracks, 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:46.600 this program do and and my boy had a castio 0:12:46.720 --> 0:12:49.120 that make beach too. So at this point I'm getting obsessed. 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:51.400 And then it's like the simpler machine some in there 0:12:51.440 --> 0:12:54.640 just like cool and so the same. So you already 0:12:54.679 --> 0:12:56.680 know Ronnie, me and him was in the same class 0:12:57.000 --> 0:12:59.040 and he's making beats and he's telling me like the Triton, bro, 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:01.520 because he was working with Done and we had it 0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:03.120 and then can't city. We was like, look, we about 0:13:03.120 --> 0:13:05.920 to turn this whole thing up. And he was like, 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:07.960 we gotta get the Triton. That's what if you ain't. 0:13:07.960 --> 0:13:09.280 Because Ronnie always had the fly stuff. 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:09.440 Man. 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:10.880 He always lived aund the corner for me. So I'm like, 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:12.920 dam I need to try it too. So I tell 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:16.160 my dad, I said, the Triton is uh like five thousand. 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:17.440 I just hyped it all the way up. I know 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:20.680 at some point my dad was minest, but he was 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:22.600 a business until he did real estate and he had 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:25.480 his stuff together and so I figured if I turned 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:26.960 the price up on him a little bit, and he 0:13:27.040 --> 0:13:29.640 was like, whatever, I got cars. All my courses cost 0:13:29.720 --> 0:13:31.120 that much money. And I was like, well, maybe one 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:33.160 day a year ago by and I'm like, it's on 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:35.240 stuff for twenty two. He said, twenty that's a good deal. 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:37.560 I was like something I said, I for I wait 0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:40.280 long enough. I got to bring it down. You always 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:41.839 shoot higher and then you lett on where you want 0:13:41.880 --> 0:13:44.640 to know, no negotiations, negotiating. 0:13:45.000 --> 0:13:45.840 Yeah, he was. 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:50.840 Like, let's get it. I was like yeah. I was 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:53.840 like cool. I was like, Charles bro got this track, 0:13:54.040 --> 0:13:57.240 were gonna bro. I made beats all day, all night. 0:13:57.440 --> 0:14:00.760 I was obsessed making tracks. Man. I started a label. 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:04.360 You don't even know. Man. I had an alias because 0:14:04.400 --> 0:14:06.160 this is the business. This is a business motel. I 0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:09.640 was okay between this black range, that black range. My 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:12.600 dad is also doing construction and so he's doing construction 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:14.679 for at Ye Boys. So he's like he's a rapper. 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:16.800 He's a rapper. I'm like, oh word. And so master 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:18.960 P was always the mode, right, So I'm like, hey, man, 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:21.120 you should do the master P thing. Like what would 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:23.280 you think I can do this? I'm like, yeah, I'll 0:14:23.280 --> 0:14:24.880 give you a deal on some beats, like, let me 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:26.600 let me throw all your tracks for you, get you 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:28.920 a label, bro. I didn't convince like three of these dudes. 0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:32.120 How much was you selling? Beat fifteen hundreds, beat fifteen dollars? 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:35.720 Beat you in high school? High school? My dad took it. 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:37.400 He was like, all right, man, he built the studio 0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:39.800 with it. Throw. He was like, I said, do a 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:44.120 song deal. I'll give y'all. Matter of fact, I usually 0:14:44.200 --> 0:14:46.320 do fifteen. You know, I'll be out there working with Donald. 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:50.120 I said, you know what this dude, maybe we do 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:53.080 like fifteen songs, twenty songs. He was like, I got that. 0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:57.840 That's nothing. I said, man. I was like, he's about 0:14:57.840 --> 0:14:59.600 to go down. He said he's about to make Diamald's bag. 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:02.440 I was like, okay, I mean, I'm all the way. 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:04.200 I'm all the way in with this, and my dad 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:06.720 was like, give it. I was like to put some 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:08.960 of church go tied. I said, all right. That was 0:15:09.240 --> 0:15:10.600 kind of hard for me to do. The time. I 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:16.000 was like Jesus two thousand. I was like, man, you 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:18.280 need all two thousand. I got this left, went to 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:20.320 this place called Landing, got geared up. I gotta look 0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:22.480 like a producer. Now I'm making beats. I gotta let 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:27.240 people know. Hey about here place said you went to 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:32.120 the church with the landing, the land the landing bro 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:34.240 air force ones, I got the man. It was on 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:38.520 pro producer be Unique? That's today who be unique? 0:15:38.800 --> 0:15:39.360 Be Unique? 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:39.600 You know? 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:39.840 Was it? 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:42.360 I was like beat for sale Now I'm out here 0:15:42.400 --> 0:15:44.960 for real, like got the equipment. Hearing about it. 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:45.840 I just off your name. 0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:47.920 Your beats sound weak. He's gonna say that. No, that 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:49.320 was hard bro, I had. 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:51.840 I don't know if I'm buying ten beats from be 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:53.440 you need you right? 0:15:53.960 --> 0:15:56.000 That's an R beat, that's an That was an R 0:15:56.040 --> 0:15:58.120 and B sock. I still want to had R and B. 0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:02.920 I'm not something like baby here on. Yeah. That was 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:04.280 it man. It was like I was like what could 0:16:04.320 --> 0:16:06.520 I do? I was like, right, all right, cool and 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:09.960 it went down though I had had people rotating in 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:12.000 the basement, and then my dad was like, rather than 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:14.080 be in the basement where I can hear all them, 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:17.640 all of them, versus being out because all the everybody 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:19.920 from the block was just like he cool because it 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:23.240 was always activity, like a lot of activity. They was like, 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:25.600 y'all see him he's cool. He got a future, so 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:27.360 we're gonna protect that. So every time I come to that, 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:28.000 all right, So. 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:30.520 They got you on one block and Ronnie around the corner, 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:31.600 like four blocks away. 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:35.680 Is he doing b too? Is either man Ronnie killing 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:38.960 it killing? Ronnie had like three or four drives like look, 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:40.960 but obviously always say he's like, bro, we gotta go, 0:16:41.040 --> 0:16:43.080 we gotta work. I was like, what's the urgency? Say 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:45.440 it's urgent, gotta work. Bro. I was like, all right, cool, 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:47.680 I'm working because I always done my own little thing anyway. 0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:49.840 But uh yeah, yeah. He had a couple people of it, 0:16:49.880 --> 0:16:51.480 and I had the same thing. I was like, it 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:54.640 was either little Ronnie, little r productions be unique. I 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:57.320 was like, come over here, man, it's prolific productions. And 0:16:57.440 --> 0:16:59.680 I also had my jazzing going, so I will actually 0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:01.520 go like the Beverly Hills of Kannas City and do 0:17:01.560 --> 0:17:03.760 a piano concert real quick. And so I had this 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:06.240 whole like on Brian Kennedy, I'm here to perform my 0:17:06.400 --> 0:17:08.160 music and you want to be unique, and then I'll 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:11.960 be unique. Switching, bro, I was switching, I was like, 0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:14.040 but I was keeping it. I will always say I'll 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:15.920 say what I say anywhere, but were just how I 0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:17.359 said it. And I was like, all right, let me 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:18.800 be cause I would actually study this ship. Then I 0:17:18.840 --> 0:17:21.239 would literally go to the plaza and I would sit 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:23.880 back and I would want to get this gig at Norsetroums. 0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:25.119 I'm like, I want to be the pim player who 0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:27.159 plays at Rshales whatever reason another and put it on 0:17:27.240 --> 0:17:31.040 and do this. So I went over there and no, sorry, 0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:34.119 it was this hotel, the Hyatt, my bad and uh 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:35.760 And I was like, I'm playing piano. They had a lot. 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:38.280 He was like, oh yeah, no, you have to get hired, 0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:40.639 get on the schedule, to in the resume. They had 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:45.200 a lot to do. It was like no. I was like, okay, cool, 0:17:45.400 --> 0:17:48.399 So back to the landing. Got a suit, put a 0:17:48.440 --> 0:17:50.600 suit on, put a little square so church shoes on, 0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:53.080 had a little book. I just sitting there every day, 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:54.840 just studying and looking at the pim players and I 0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:57.040 can kill this dude and the guys like I help 0:17:57.040 --> 0:17:59.200 you all. My das's in town on business doing real estate. 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:01.720 Just here a composer. But I'm just enjoying. Oh you 0:18:01.760 --> 0:18:09.399 should play okay, yeah, yeah, you look like the bunny. 0:18:10.960 --> 0:18:14.040 I started playing bro swear the whole hotel. Everyone was like, 0:18:14.119 --> 0:18:16.159 what is this. I was like, I just study a 0:18:16.160 --> 0:18:18.879 little kid started. I started playing like, uh was it 0:18:19.000 --> 0:18:22.600 Bruce Hornsby? All these different songs that I knew they 0:18:22.600 --> 0:18:25.199 would know. They didn't know what to do. They was like, yo, 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:28.240 this is I'm here once a month, we travel often, 0:18:28.880 --> 0:18:33.879 we travel often. Yes, you know who you like? Now 0:18:34.680 --> 0:18:36.360 remember the movie Catch Me if you can? 0:18:36.640 --> 0:18:36.840 Yeah? 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:40.400 Yeah, he was a kid to kid tell me he's 0:18:40.400 --> 0:18:40.800 a pilot. 0:18:42.119 --> 0:18:42.359 He was. 0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:45.959 He was everything. Dude, you're giving me catching me if 0:18:47.240 --> 0:18:50.159 my sister VICKI and she started catching on. I mean 0:18:50.200 --> 0:18:52.200 she's always being a supporter. She was like, you, dope, 0:18:52.480 --> 0:18:53.840 you actually got some going on, something to help you 0:18:53.840 --> 0:18:57.159 because's always moving around, traveling, no people and stuff. And 0:18:57.280 --> 0:18:58.920 she was like, all right, we're gonna hit this gig. 0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:01.640 And she's like, less your own concert to start building 0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:05.639 our concerts. And I started using the grand piano and 0:19:05.720 --> 0:19:07.000 then to try and making beach to throw and do 0:19:07.040 --> 0:19:10.639 this whole spectacle everything and then to fast forward that. Man. 0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:12.680 I was like, all right, cool. I did my jazz 0:19:12.720 --> 0:19:16.040 concert and it sold out, and my little sister Charlie 0:19:16.160 --> 0:19:18.119 was like, man, that was a good concert, like your 0:19:18.520 --> 0:19:20.199 what was it shoulder pads and your little square tal 0:19:20.640 --> 0:19:22.280 I was like I looked at him here like this 0:19:22.400 --> 0:19:25.240 can't be it. Bro, I saw my future for my eyes. 0:19:25.280 --> 0:19:26.679 I was like, I can't be it. I'm not going down. 0:19:26.960 --> 0:19:28.879 I mean, I love jazz, respect to it. Yeah, I 0:19:28.960 --> 0:19:31.760 can't be on some nineteen twenty year old jazz thing. 0:19:32.440 --> 0:19:34.240 I can't do it. And by that time, Ronnie, me 0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:36.719 and Ronnie always keeping contact and he was like, bro, 0:19:37.160 --> 0:19:39.119 I'm out of La now. He was catching if you can, 0:19:39.160 --> 0:19:41.320 brocause I'm at home still on kans Citt. I'm in 0:19:41.320 --> 0:19:44.000 Atlanta now. And then he's like producer so so deaf. 0:19:44.040 --> 0:19:45.320 I'm sitting there. But he would always call me and 0:19:45.440 --> 0:19:46.600 be like, man, you got to get to La now. 0:19:46.640 --> 0:19:47.840 I was like, what's going on? He was like, man, 0:19:47.840 --> 0:19:49.919 I'm telling you it's popping out here. We out here. 0:19:49.960 --> 0:19:53.239 I was like, man, I'm getting the ticket where you live. Man, 0:19:53.280 --> 0:19:56.320 We're good. She's like, yep, I gotta play, so, you know, 0:19:56.840 --> 0:20:00.240 saying with my boy Jay I said Jay j He 0:20:00.400 --> 0:20:02.080 like he cooled me. He's like, come on, let's go. 0:20:02.920 --> 0:20:05.440 But but hey, but he definitely was like I'll give 0:20:05.480 --> 0:20:06.879 it to him because he was like, bro, you been home, 0:20:06.920 --> 0:20:09.399 ain't gonna do nothing for you. So went out. I 0:20:09.480 --> 0:20:11.680 went to the house. It was nice. I like the 0:20:11.760 --> 0:20:15.240 I like the house. It was this dude man like 0:20:15.960 --> 0:20:18.359 I'm in the house. I don't know what happened. He's like, 0:20:18.440 --> 0:20:21.800 I'll be back or something. But you cool, he said, 0:20:21.800 --> 0:20:24.159 I'll be back. Yeah, okay, I like cool. I like 0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:25.920 it might be it might as well be a pool 0:20:25.920 --> 0:20:28.160 outsize of palm trees and stuff. You know, I can't 0:20:28.200 --> 0:20:30.439 sity nice but still on the palm trees. I'm out here. 0:20:30.440 --> 0:20:32.000 I'm like on the phone like yeah, I'm at this house, 0:20:32.119 --> 0:20:34.639 chilling man. And then I go into the room on 0:20:34.680 --> 0:20:36.399 the piano. Bro, I said, I said, room in here, 0:20:36.440 --> 0:20:38.480 the keyboard. They shouldn't do that, you know. I'm on 0:20:38.560 --> 0:20:42.520 the keys. Then I hear the door. I was like 0:20:43.640 --> 0:20:45.119 he's like what up? Like what up? 0:20:45.160 --> 0:20:45.240 Bro? 0:20:46.240 --> 0:20:49.159 Like, who are you? Was like, I'm Jay, Like, oh, 0:20:49.240 --> 0:20:51.040 nice to meet your Boston. He was like yeah. I 0:20:51.160 --> 0:20:53.480 was like, this is his house, this is his keyboard, 0:20:56.200 --> 0:20:59.119 said to you. He was like I was like right, 0:20:59.119 --> 0:21:03.879 and he was like okay cool. I was like making beats. 0:21:04.720 --> 0:21:09.919 I was like Tama whole joy just like not friendly, 0:21:11.359 --> 0:21:17.760 but he was measuring the temperature. Always always come in hot, nigga. 0:21:17.800 --> 0:21:21.520 I was like, I said, George cast you Ronnie or 0:21:21.880 --> 0:21:23.680 nigga will ever be nice? Nice? 0:21:24.560 --> 0:21:26.600 But he was like these niggas don't know these niggas. 0:21:26.600 --> 0:21:30.240 You're my balance, bro, motherfucker, you're my balance. But you 0:21:30.320 --> 0:21:31.160 have a nice smile. 0:21:32.240 --> 0:21:35.040 God damn. But didn't feel it felt like he was 0:21:35.160 --> 0:21:37.159 just okay. He assessed it. So I'm like, okay, I 0:21:37.280 --> 0:21:38.840 think you know some weird ship. 0:21:39.320 --> 0:21:40.840 I was like, no, because I said it before we 0:21:40.920 --> 0:21:43.680 spoke about you on the podcast before. It's not a 0:21:43.760 --> 0:21:45.480 niggas gonna break in your house and play the piano 0:21:46.760 --> 0:21:48.720 like the first time, almost like. 0:21:48.920 --> 0:21:49.600 A damn food. 0:21:50.760 --> 0:21:52.440 Yeah, like, I don't think a nigga gonna break in 0:21:52.440 --> 0:21:54.800 the house and play piano. But what it was it 0:21:54.920 --> 0:21:56.920 was that the door was unlocked. 0:21:57.400 --> 0:21:57.800 Mm hmm. 0:21:58.560 --> 0:22:00.520 And I'm sure he didn't know that now we were 0:22:00.520 --> 0:22:02.280 talking about it in hindsight, he didn't know that. But 0:22:03.160 --> 0:22:03.959 it's my studio. 0:22:04.440 --> 0:22:07.639 Everything, everything is in there, and I don't this was 0:22:07.720 --> 0:22:11.920 my studio house. I don't live there, so I'm think 0:22:12.040 --> 0:22:15.639 I go to put the door and I'm like open, 0:22:15.920 --> 0:22:22.080 So now you got his gun ready, I can legally 0:22:22.560 --> 0:22:25.040 kill you in my property right. 0:22:25.920 --> 0:22:28.280 That was the young man was playing piano. Man, it 0:22:28.400 --> 0:22:32.239 sounds so good, don't you agree? You know what if 0:22:32.280 --> 0:22:34.720 this nigga you know what, he played good, I ain't 0:22:34.720 --> 0:22:35.800 gonna shoot his fingers. 0:22:36.880 --> 0:22:39.840 Becomes that very moment. Like not long after that, he 0:22:40.000 --> 0:22:42.720 was like, yo, you said you got beats. I was like, 0:22:42.840 --> 0:22:47.200 he said, uh, you know, I was like do I Yeah. 0:22:47.280 --> 0:22:48.880 He was like, he's coming through the night. You're sitting 0:22:48.880 --> 0:22:50.879 there with us. I was like, mom, I think you 0:22:51.000 --> 0:22:53.159 made it. I mean, I turned. I was like, bro, 0:22:53.320 --> 0:22:56.199 this is crazy, Like I can't believe this. I'm sitting here. 0:22:56.520 --> 0:22:58.159 He's like, Yo, this is shying this. I'm sitting back 0:22:58.200 --> 0:23:00.560 to me, I'm like, y'all, don't under stay in the level. 0:23:00.600 --> 0:23:02.560 And then Ronnie is like, like working on these tracks 0:23:02.840 --> 0:23:04.440 to me, this is something I've been wanting to do 0:23:04.760 --> 0:23:06.679 my whole life. Soon as because for me, it's opportunity. 0:23:07.040 --> 0:23:08.800 I'm taking it, you know. But the same time, I 0:23:08.800 --> 0:23:10.520 got to be be respectful. You know what I'm saying. 0:23:10.640 --> 0:23:13.080 Jay was always like always being just like, yeah, let 0:23:13.080 --> 0:23:15.520 me talk to you. Literally, bro. When I we first 0:23:15.560 --> 0:23:17.280 had like he was like, let go have grabbed it 0:23:17.400 --> 0:23:19.040 or whatever. Dude had a receipt. He's like for my 0:23:19.040 --> 0:23:21.240 account and I said, for yo, who my account? Said? 0:23:21.240 --> 0:23:23.320 He knows business? This person I should have made a 0:23:23.359 --> 0:23:25.240 long time ago. But it's always just been like on 0:23:25.359 --> 0:23:28.280 some brother shit bro like legit like never ever been 0:23:28.359 --> 0:23:32.399 anything where. Because he connected me with Ethiopia, he was like, 0:23:32.440 --> 0:23:34.120 I need to connect you with and he was like, look, 0:23:34.160 --> 0:23:48.720 this is what we're gonna do. She was like, don't 0:23:48.720 --> 0:23:50.119 make no sort of moves and he was like, you 0:23:50.280 --> 0:23:51.840 always say stuff that I would just pick up on 0:23:52.320 --> 0:23:55.000 because I had manager management at the time. And then 0:23:55.040 --> 0:23:57.040 on a E played her stuff and she was like, 0:23:57.280 --> 0:23:59.119 hold tight, I got an ideal for you. And it 0:23:59.200 --> 0:24:04.119 just started slowly but surely happening, you know. And then 0:24:04.200 --> 0:24:06.680 there was another time you're Ronnie went up and then 0:24:06.720 --> 0:24:10.240 you went up to the underdogs. I was like, we're 0:24:10.240 --> 0:24:13.800 gonna wear you might just said Heaven for me because 0:24:13.840 --> 0:24:16.000 that was like for Knox to get into You can 0:24:16.040 --> 0:24:19.560 see the gate the car when usually dropping somebody off 0:24:19.680 --> 0:24:23.640 like man, man, dude, I got in the elevator. 0:24:24.760 --> 0:24:24.800 You. 0:24:25.680 --> 0:24:28.120 I was like, this is be cool about it. Don't 0:24:28.160 --> 0:24:30.679 don't trip you know because my tea whiz you know. Started. 0:24:31.800 --> 0:24:33.280 I was like, bro, we do this right. We could 0:24:33.359 --> 0:24:37.040 be underdogs soon, so this could be this could be 0:24:37.119 --> 0:24:40.479 the booth but no, but on Surreal he started, Uh 0:24:40.760 --> 0:24:44.399 Troy now, Troy knuckle Is started interning up there as 0:24:44.400 --> 0:24:47.520 an engineer, so he snatched on those demos and so 0:24:47.600 --> 0:24:49.680 we would listen to him at like and I was like, 0:24:49.760 --> 0:24:51.040 this is the mark, this is the moment, this is 0:24:51.040 --> 0:24:53.119 what we need to do. And I just started studying, studying, 0:24:53.160 --> 0:24:55.880 and I already had some kind of a musical identity 0:24:55.960 --> 0:24:58.399 based on what I heard, but I've never heard production 0:24:58.520 --> 0:25:01.560 so clean. Bro, Oh my god, the background, the vocals, 0:25:01.640 --> 0:25:03.520 the writing. I'm like, and Jay I wrote this song, 0:25:04.040 --> 0:25:06.119 it's a Mario song. I was like, you wrote this song? Bro, 0:25:06.320 --> 0:25:10.240 Like you're gonna just tell me? I act normal? Possible? 0:25:10.920 --> 0:25:11.119 Are you? 0:25:11.240 --> 0:25:11.280 So? 0:25:11.480 --> 0:25:13.399 Why are you so calm? My name? Was like, I 0:25:13.480 --> 0:25:15.440 told you, nigga, this is real out here. I was 0:25:15.480 --> 0:25:18.119 like I'm here and uh yeah, man, and it just started. 0:25:18.760 --> 0:25:21.520 I remember the defining moment was I was working another producer. 0:25:22.200 --> 0:25:24.320 He had me go to the studio and I ran 0:25:24.359 --> 0:25:26.760 into Sierra and I didn't know. I didn't know her. 0:25:27.520 --> 0:25:29.280 I just like, you know, I mean, come from I 0:25:29.280 --> 0:25:29.879 can't see me. 0:25:30.000 --> 0:25:31.040 You didn't know you didn't know her? 0:25:31.080 --> 0:25:33.040 Well I didn't. I'm like, oh, I know you. I'm 0:25:33.080 --> 0:25:35.200 sorry I thought I know you. But she's celebrity, you know, 0:25:35.400 --> 0:25:37.240 I didn't met her. I'm like, I know you. How 0:25:37.280 --> 0:25:38.399 you been? She's like who are you? 0:25:38.640 --> 0:25:38.680 Like? 0:25:38.800 --> 0:25:40.800 How are you being? Like, I'm like, good to see you. 0:25:40.920 --> 0:25:43.160 So I didn't know I didn't know her, Like, oh, 0:25:43.240 --> 0:25:47.320 I don't know you. You're Sierra. Got you? Well, well, 0:25:47.680 --> 0:25:49.480 since you're Sierra, I have a demo, bro. I would 0:25:49.480 --> 0:25:52.040 put almost brought demo today. I was like, bring my 0:25:52.119 --> 0:25:54.040 laptop just the case. I'm like, never mina stop, chill out. 0:25:54.080 --> 0:25:56.720 I'm always like ready for opportunity. I just gave her 0:25:56.720 --> 0:25:59.560 a CD and I was like here's I left the 0:25:59.560 --> 0:26:00.920 studio and he called me. He was like, yeah, what 0:26:00.960 --> 0:26:03.200 did you do at the studio? I was like, okay, damn. 0:26:03.280 --> 0:26:07.320 She's like no, no, come back. Candice Nelson and Sierra's 0:26:07.320 --> 0:26:09.119 writing something to one of those tracks. 0:26:09.280 --> 0:26:09.520 Wow. 0:26:10.440 --> 0:26:13.000 And that day. A couple of days before that, man, 0:26:13.040 --> 0:26:14.800 I saw my dad. I was like, man, la is hard. Obviously, 0:26:14.880 --> 0:26:16.560 I'm like this is getting a little tough. I can't 0:26:16.560 --> 0:26:17.960 afford it. My dad would help me when he could. 0:26:18.560 --> 0:26:20.840 And they was like, we want this song for the project. Bro. 0:26:21.080 --> 0:26:23.480 I was like, yo, my first placement me and tiz 0:26:23.880 --> 0:26:26.920 I was on Cloud whatever. What song is that? My 0:26:27.000 --> 0:26:30.200 love number eight off the Evolution album. Wow? Yeah? And 0:26:30.280 --> 0:26:32.000 I was like I didn't know you did that? Yeah? 0:26:32.080 --> 0:26:34.159 Me and me and is like we did. We literally 0:26:34.760 --> 0:26:36.600 changed everything. He was like, yo, I'm gonna get you 0:26:36.960 --> 0:26:40.120 locked in. Did the deal. From there, I was still 0:26:40.160 --> 0:26:42.800 tapping in other producers, doing a play for hire thing 0:26:42.840 --> 0:26:45.320 because now I got my show out here once a 0:26:45.359 --> 0:26:47.680 week at mynt Rose and it was like a jazz 0:26:47.800 --> 0:26:50.680 night or live music night, and that's popping off, like 0:26:50.760 --> 0:26:54.440 baby Face show up to that, David Foster polo is 0:26:54.520 --> 0:26:56.240 your show? What do you mean? Yeah? Like Brian Kennedy. 0:26:56.280 --> 0:26:58.520 So I did this thing where me and my friend 0:26:58.600 --> 0:27:02.119 Titus uh the j on the bass, Tracy on a guitar. 0:27:03.040 --> 0:27:06.240 So at the time, Uh Tom was like, yo, this 0:27:06.359 --> 0:27:08.680 is the place. My boy Keith Belcher was like, you 0:27:08.720 --> 0:27:12.640 should do like this wine bar where you do once 0:27:12.720 --> 0:27:15.520 every other Tuesday. Just performed like Brian Kennedy jazz the 0:27:15.600 --> 0:27:17.359 Because I was still popping off as a musician in 0:27:17.400 --> 0:27:20.560 Kansas City, and we went out passed off flyers and 0:27:21.080 --> 0:27:23.720 sure enough it was nice elegant. I said, this is Mark, 0:27:23.760 --> 0:27:24.960 I can I can do something with this. You know, 0:27:24.960 --> 0:27:26.879 I was having Brian Kennedy. We got to play some 0:27:26.960 --> 0:27:29.080 jazz and we ain't here playing my boy DJ killing it, 0:27:29.160 --> 0:27:32.480 Titus on the drums, t Whiz on another keyboard, and 0:27:32.600 --> 0:27:34.880 it started going off. So I was doing that and producing. 0:27:35.280 --> 0:27:36.439 So I'm like, Okay, I got a hit. I got 0:27:36.520 --> 0:27:38.679 not a hit out, I got a hit project, you know, Tierra. 0:27:39.119 --> 0:27:41.399 And were you making money off of that when you 0:27:41.440 --> 0:27:41.760 were doing that? 0:27:41.880 --> 0:27:45.560 Were you making any money off of that enough to no, 0:27:45.760 --> 0:27:48.480 not really survival survival, enough to just get a little 0:27:48.520 --> 0:27:51.879 something going on. And I felt like, yeah, it was survival, 0:27:52.520 --> 0:27:55.840 but the homie Keith was like you know, and then 0:27:56.000 --> 0:27:59.280 Tom parlated something different, so it was more like, you know, 0:27:59.400 --> 0:28:00.280 getting out there, but. 0:28:00.280 --> 0:28:01.600 You didn't have to go get a ninety five. 0:28:01.840 --> 0:28:03.560 No, I didn't have to get that five. My parents 0:28:03.560 --> 0:28:05.080 and my dad would help me like monthly, like I 0:28:05.160 --> 0:28:07.040 take care of your when when he could. No. 0:28:07.080 --> 0:28:10.480 Because the other thing that I remember when I didn't 0:28:10.480 --> 0:28:10.879 shoot you. 0:28:11.680 --> 0:28:17.640 Was you had CDs. Oh you know you had CDs. 0:28:17.760 --> 0:28:20.760 You had had a jazz project. And that's the other thing. 0:28:20.800 --> 0:28:22.800 I was like, I also can't shoot a jazz nigga either. 0:28:22.800 --> 0:28:30.960 You know what I'm saying, Like it's jazz, bro. It's like, yeah, 0:28:32.000 --> 0:28:33.760 how do I even talk about that in the whole tank? 0:28:33.840 --> 0:28:36.159 Put you into your phone, man, this little jazz niggas 0:28:36.160 --> 0:28:44.920 playing on my house man, and I shot him no, bro, right, 0:28:45.120 --> 0:28:48.320 So but I remember you had the jazz CD and 0:28:48.440 --> 0:28:51.200 that's when you were and we start talking and it's 0:28:51.320 --> 0:28:56.240 it's right when everybody has their side of how the 0:28:57.000 --> 0:28:58.959 conversation winning out, you know what I mean, what they 0:28:59.120 --> 0:29:03.640 perceived from it. But what I saw was a young 0:29:03.760 --> 0:29:09.080 man who was very entrepreneurial. M because you were like 0:29:10.720 --> 0:29:12.480 and correct me if I'm wrong. You were like, yeah, 0:29:12.520 --> 0:29:16.840 because I hooked up with the Hallmark people and I'm 0:29:17.240 --> 0:29:19.960 we're Hallmarked people. He like, you know the ones do 0:29:20.040 --> 0:29:22.760 the cards? I said, how do you know the Harrormark 0:29:22.840 --> 0:29:25.600 people here? Like, well, in Kansas City, they are you know, 0:29:25.720 --> 0:29:27.880 like the richest families in Kansas It's like the Hallmarks. 0:29:29.520 --> 0:29:31.680 And you know me taking, I'm like, oh, business, business, business, 0:29:31.760 --> 0:29:34.680 I'm just hearing, I'm like, Okay, I like where this 0:29:34.800 --> 0:29:36.840 young dude is going? And then what he I'm like, 0:29:36.920 --> 0:29:40.440 who thinks to do a jazz project with the people 0:29:40.480 --> 0:29:43.840 from Harrormark because they can obviously press it up for you. 0:29:45.320 --> 0:29:45.560 Gifts? 0:29:47.040 --> 0:29:49.680 And he started talking about all that, and at this point. 0:29:49.560 --> 0:29:52.280 You might have been what nineteen, Yeah, yeah, I just 0:29:52.400 --> 0:29:54.440 I turned twenty that summer, and I'm. 0:29:54.360 --> 0:29:56.120 Like, Yo, this is a this is a young dude 0:29:56.160 --> 0:30:00.360 who not only is he super talented, but he always 0:30:00.520 --> 0:30:03.400 he already has his mind on his business and where 0:30:03.440 --> 0:30:05.560 he wants to take his career. Because it's because even 0:30:05.600 --> 0:30:08.280 the stuff he started today, I didn't know that, you 0:30:08.360 --> 0:30:09.480 know what I mean, Like you was saying when he 0:30:09.560 --> 0:30:12.760 was eight and he trying to figure out about gigging it. Man, 0:30:12.840 --> 0:30:16.760 But it all makes sense now, you know, twenty years later. 0:30:17.160 --> 0:30:19.600 Was to have this conversation here and me be like, oh, 0:30:20.200 --> 0:30:23.440 that's exactly what man, That's exactly what this guy was. 0:30:24.960 --> 0:30:25.400 Back then. 0:30:26.160 --> 0:30:27.680 And that's how it was surviving in LA because I 0:30:27.680 --> 0:30:30.040 saw a thousand sees for ten dollars and that's how 0:30:30.040 --> 0:30:31.920 I was able to bust to move. And then I 0:30:32.000 --> 0:30:34.200 made a whole Christmas album at your spy. I was like, 0:30:34.240 --> 0:30:35.720 I'm here, he gotta try. You had a Triton in 0:30:35.920 --> 0:30:37.360 one of those rooms, and I was like, I'm working 0:30:37.360 --> 0:30:39.800 on the jazz project. Started making. Man, how much you 0:30:39.840 --> 0:30:43.240 make off down I think it was a negative. It 0:30:43.840 --> 0:30:44.760 was a negative about. 0:30:46.720 --> 0:30:48.000 I don't know if I don't know, I don't know 0:30:48.000 --> 0:30:51.840 if you guys are watching. But he got his pumption, 0:30:53.760 --> 0:30:56.800 got he got his first place. Yeah, he would have 0:30:56.840 --> 0:30:58.640 never messed her even though he thought he met her. 0:31:01.200 --> 0:31:07.280 Jazz residency. Uh, I'll come back right now. 0:31:07.760 --> 0:31:11.800 The money, the money start, you know my mind. 0:31:15.080 --> 0:31:19.440 But watching watching you know, just your maturation in the business, bro, 0:31:19.800 --> 0:31:24.520 and like how you were going about your career was 0:31:24.880 --> 0:31:29.720 always and also something that I just always admired about you, 0:31:30.720 --> 0:31:34.320 just seeing because we and Tank can tell you, we 0:31:34.480 --> 0:31:39.840 see so many talented people that I don't really know 0:31:39.880 --> 0:31:44.440 where they're going though. That's they jump on that hamster 0:31:44.560 --> 0:31:47.680 wheel Man and it's tough man, and it's like and 0:31:47.920 --> 0:31:52.240 and I and I have empathy sometimes for that. You know, 0:31:52.400 --> 0:31:54.960 Tank has more than I because I'm just like, Bro, 0:31:55.120 --> 0:31:57.400 you just at some point your land's got to get 0:31:57.440 --> 0:32:01.120 tired of running in the same place. But but to 0:32:01.280 --> 0:32:03.560 see you and to see that you had a clear 0:32:03.680 --> 0:32:06.400 view of like, Okay, I'm trying to do this to 0:32:06.520 --> 0:32:10.200 get to this, to get to that was really cool 0:32:10.600 --> 0:32:13.160 because I just seen so many talented people, bro, and 0:32:13.200 --> 0:32:14.560 it was just it was just it would hurt. It 0:32:14.600 --> 0:32:18.400 would hurt to watch it sometimes, like damn, Bro, like nigga, 0:32:18.440 --> 0:32:22.000 you still, yeah, I ain't figured this shit out. 0:32:22.000 --> 0:32:22.640 I'm at that place. 0:32:22.760 --> 0:32:25.520 You still ain't hit the pivot, because that's the other 0:32:25.560 --> 0:32:27.680 thing in this business. You gotta be at a pivot. 0:32:28.840 --> 0:32:30.920 It may not just be a record deal, like people 0:32:31.000 --> 0:32:33.080 literally get caught on one a deal. 0:32:33.200 --> 0:32:35.000 Yeah, that's real. You taught me. In fact, you told 0:32:35.000 --> 0:32:37.080 me that. Two things you told me that switched the 0:32:37.360 --> 0:32:40.400 game for me. One time you were like a man 0:32:40.800 --> 0:32:42.840 play the piano, Like you can't play the piano. I 0:32:42.960 --> 0:32:46.560 was like, what this dude to tell me? Like he's like, no, simplified. 0:32:46.960 --> 0:32:48.400 You did a lot of work with me, bro, like 0:32:48.480 --> 0:32:52.000 I know you added it up sore, but he was like, yo, 0:32:52.160 --> 0:32:54.200 just simplified and don't put too much energy on it. 0:32:54.200 --> 0:32:56.440 And then you said something else, and I remember it 0:32:56.560 --> 0:32:58.520 was probably like a can City placement or something. I 0:32:58.680 --> 0:33:00.880 was like, this is the song something something he was like, hey, man, 0:33:00.920 --> 0:33:03.000 don't fall in love with one song. I was like, 0:33:03.080 --> 0:33:05.040 what do you mean. He's like, just don't. It's many 0:33:05.120 --> 0:33:07.120 more songs. Youre gonna have some songs that go left 0:33:07.120 --> 0:33:10.440 to go right. But just that day, I'll just keep 0:33:10.480 --> 0:33:14.280 it moving all right, next next that triggered something. Whatever 0:33:14.320 --> 0:33:15.320 you said trigger that moment. 0:33:15.400 --> 0:33:17.200 But now I've only fallen in love with one song 0:33:17.760 --> 0:33:19.120 and I bring it up all the time on this 0:33:19.200 --> 0:33:20.640 podcast because it didn't make his album. 0:33:21.680 --> 0:33:23.400 That's my one song I fell in love like it's 0:33:23.400 --> 0:33:25.240 for real, you know, it's crazy. 0:33:26.120 --> 0:33:29.760 My my young partner, djb Easy hit me and he 0:33:29.880 --> 0:33:32.520 and he just randomly sent me a text and he said, Jay, 0:33:32.560 --> 0:33:35.120 what's your favorite song you've ever written? And I hadn't 0:33:35.160 --> 0:33:36.719 even thought about that in years. And the first thing 0:33:36.760 --> 0:33:41.080 popped in my head was Injured Reserve right, And he 0:33:41.240 --> 0:33:42.800 was like, where's the record? I said it's probably on 0:33:42.840 --> 0:33:44.840 the internet somewhere, and he found it and he hit 0:33:44.920 --> 0:33:46.320 me back like, Nigga, this song is incredible. 0:33:46.360 --> 0:33:49.120 But I was like, yeah, I. 0:33:49.120 --> 0:33:52.560 Think it's from when your ship got Everything got You 0:33:52.600 --> 0:33:57.280 still got your version, Eric, my Eric Dowkers might have 0:33:57.800 --> 0:34:01.720 somebody has my version somewhere. But I say that to 0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:05.040 say like that was the only record for me out 0:34:05.040 --> 0:34:07.320 of all the music that I've written that really was 0:34:07.440 --> 0:34:11.120 just like I really like, I really love love this. 0:34:12.320 --> 0:34:18.160 And the song never went anywhere, damn partially because of 0:34:18.239 --> 0:34:20.719 him because he held on to it for two damn long. 0:34:21.200 --> 0:34:26.640 But that's whatever, no it, But I had to learn 0:34:26.719 --> 0:34:30.080 that lesson early, like, as great as I think it is, 0:34:30.120 --> 0:34:33.319 as great as multiple people think it is, it may 0:34:33.640 --> 0:34:34.399 never come out. 0:34:34.480 --> 0:34:37.719 That's literally the energy in the conversation. And I was like, Huh, 0:34:38.120 --> 0:34:41.360 how do I prepare myself for this? It's not easy, No, 0:34:41.680 --> 0:34:44.799 not at all. But that's when I started switching gears. 0:34:44.920 --> 0:34:48.520 I'm gonna start doing different genres. I've always did different genres, 0:34:49.200 --> 0:34:50.600 and along the way of all the success that I 0:34:50.719 --> 0:34:51.799 was having, it was going up. 0:34:52.560 --> 0:34:53.839 So let's talk about the success. Though. 0:34:54.760 --> 0:34:56.880 We're not gonna we're not gonna brush over that, you 0:34:56.960 --> 0:35:00.560 know what I'm saying, because absolutely your story is extremely 0:35:00.640 --> 0:35:03.800 important and and we're going to continue to go into that. 0:35:04.280 --> 0:35:06.360 We also got to give them the bars. 0:35:06.120 --> 0:35:11.600 Tocha'll let you flex? Okay, you know, after you get 0:35:11.680 --> 0:35:15.440 your first placement, do you do your publishing deal right? 0:35:15.480 --> 0:35:18.360 After that or do you wait it's it's already emotion. 0:35:18.480 --> 0:35:19.000 It's emotion. 0:35:19.239 --> 0:35:22.600 Yeah. OK, so I do my first one with the 0:35:24.120 --> 0:35:26.719 with the scope of that being the cut, not not 0:35:28.400 --> 0:35:31.080 not predicting was around the corner and I was in 0:35:31.239 --> 0:35:35.440 motion to do a said production deal with someone and 0:35:35.640 --> 0:35:38.040 I was like, I don't know, I kind of want 0:35:38.040 --> 0:35:38.919 to take my own route. 0:35:39.560 --> 0:35:41.760 And it was like, man, so a bigger producer offered 0:35:41.760 --> 0:35:42.480 you an opportunity. 0:35:42.680 --> 0:35:44.600 Yeah, I had. I had a fortunate to have a 0:35:44.640 --> 0:35:48.560 couple opportunities from different producers or not. And I was like, 0:35:48.600 --> 0:35:51.000 you know what, I'm just gonna just have a choice 0:35:51.040 --> 0:35:52.279 I have to make. Either I'm gonna do it, I'm 0:35:52.280 --> 0:35:53.560 not gonna do it. And I was like, I just 0:35:53.640 --> 0:35:55.680 wanna just wait a little bit longer, even though I 0:35:55.760 --> 0:35:58.920 felt it was necessary to have someone bigger to help opportunities. 0:35:58.960 --> 0:36:00.640 But that song came out, so I was like, let's 0:36:00.680 --> 0:36:02.360 just see what happens. And I remember that day that 0:36:02.440 --> 0:36:04.759 I was like, I'm not gonna do this particular deal. 0:36:05.280 --> 0:36:08.080 I was like, man, something else gotta give. And I 0:36:08.160 --> 0:36:09.440 was like, I'm gonna turn this up a little bit. 0:36:09.560 --> 0:36:11.560 And and me and Te Whiz were still working we're 0:36:11.600 --> 0:36:14.920 still building and have a pub deal. So I was like, 0:36:14.960 --> 0:36:17.399 I'm gonna do I'm gonna'm gonna be on some Kansas 0:36:17.400 --> 0:36:20.440 city ship. I was like, I'm gonna get apartment way 0:36:20.480 --> 0:36:22.839 out somewhere. I moved out to, like Valencia or something. 0:36:22.840 --> 0:36:24.960 I just got in the corn Agor's rope. It was 0:36:25.040 --> 0:36:31.239 like for lost, like five five. I was like, what 0:36:31.360 --> 0:36:32.799 is this is a little quiet area. I said, I'm 0:36:33.080 --> 0:36:34.640 I'm a little live over here. I'm gonna just duck 0:36:34.680 --> 0:36:38.840 off and just build and create. And and I remember 0:36:38.880 --> 0:36:42.279 at the time, I'm still working with Polo Chris Dre 0:36:42.440 --> 0:36:46.800 married Rabbe and so I'm going back to the student 0:36:46.800 --> 0:36:49.080 I think it was there was a record plant and 0:36:49.800 --> 0:36:52.360 now I'm from Valencia. From Valencia. Now, I keep in 0:36:52.360 --> 0:36:54.040 mind there's an underlying health issue that I'm dealing with 0:36:54.080 --> 0:36:55.920 that I don't know i'm dealing with yet, and so 0:36:56.200 --> 0:36:59.320 I'm tired, I'm frustrated. I'm like, yo, man, work in 0:36:59.360 --> 0:37:01.400 the studio late takes a toll because I'm thinking, like 0:37:01.800 --> 0:37:03.960 I'm young, so I don't there's definitely nothing wrong with 0:37:04.000 --> 0:37:06.960 my health. And so I was always like sleeping or 0:37:06.960 --> 0:37:09.520 I fall sleep in the studio or I'm like, people like, yo, BK, 0:37:09.680 --> 0:37:11.440 that's not normal, bro, you shouldn't be I'm like, I'm 0:37:11.480 --> 0:37:13.799 just tired, y'all taking too long type of thing. Yeah, 0:37:13.880 --> 0:37:14.880 y'all need to hurry up. You know what I mean? 0:37:14.880 --> 0:37:15.920 In my mind, I'm like, I could have done this 0:37:16.000 --> 0:37:19.360 a long time ago. But I but that's also not egotistical. 0:37:19.440 --> 0:37:21.040 But it's a very I've done this for so I've 0:37:21.040 --> 0:37:23.920 been making music for I've been writing songs at five 0:37:24.040 --> 0:37:26.840 or six years old. So I understand so many different variations. 0:37:26.960 --> 0:37:30.120 Not from a standpoint of like I'm a consumer. I 0:37:30.280 --> 0:37:33.000 like to observe, but I also understanding this stuff, like 0:37:33.920 --> 0:37:36.400 like left and right, and so I fall asleep on 0:37:36.480 --> 0:37:38.279 her Rihanna was in the studio. I was like, what 0:37:38.680 --> 0:37:41.000 how did I miss? Ranna? Like, I'm telling you why 0:37:41.040 --> 0:37:44.000 you're sleep sleeping? Yeah, next to the games. 0:37:44.080 --> 0:37:45.080 Don't fall asleep in the studio. 0:37:45.120 --> 0:37:46.640 Don't fall sleep in studio. I'm just sitting next to 0:37:46.680 --> 0:37:48.279 the games and the record playing. I wake up and 0:37:48.440 --> 0:37:50.719 he's like, you missed it. I was like, I never 0:37:50.800 --> 0:37:53.839 missed another session. I'm gonna stay up. And sure enough, 0:37:53.840 --> 0:37:56.759 the next day she put up. I meet her right, 0:37:56.840 --> 0:37:58.839 I'm in the studio at this point working with Chris 0:37:58.960 --> 0:38:01.799 a little bit, and I'm like, she's sitting over there 0:38:01.840 --> 0:38:04.239 because we always been on her own just she just 0:38:04.320 --> 0:38:06.680 cares her own energy. And I was like, I'm gonna 0:38:06.719 --> 0:38:09.000 go talk to her. I'm just gonna just to walk 0:38:09.080 --> 0:38:11.200 up to her and like, hey, do I know you? 0:38:11.440 --> 0:38:13.600 Nice to meet you. I thought I knew her. I 0:38:13.680 --> 0:38:18.680 knew I knew her somewhere you'd be like, man, just pleasure. 0:38:19.960 --> 0:38:21.800 And then I just like I heard you looking for 0:38:21.880 --> 0:38:23.600 a new sound where I was like, oh, here you go. 0:38:23.760 --> 0:38:25.440 Did you randomly say to it he's looking for a 0:38:25.480 --> 0:38:29.040 new sound because he was working on a single reloaded 0:38:29.120 --> 0:38:31.320 single for her project. And I was like, yeah, I 0:38:31.360 --> 0:38:35.680 got I got a sound for you. And uh. I 0:38:35.760 --> 0:38:37.160 was like I took her phone out of her hand, bro, 0:38:37.400 --> 0:38:38.759 and it's like I'm just put my number on your 0:38:38.800 --> 0:38:42.320 phone and just here and she's looking at me like okay, 0:38:42.880 --> 0:38:44.600 and that just and and now my mind, I'm like 0:38:44.920 --> 0:38:47.360 this is mortifying, bro, I'm embarrassing myself. This is crazy. 0:38:47.400 --> 0:38:49.360 It's like, who the hell is this dude? So I 0:38:49.400 --> 0:38:50.560 give her back her phone. It was like it just 0:38:50.680 --> 0:38:53.520 just hit me anytime or and we little blother to 0:38:53.600 --> 0:38:55.640 Chris Brown looking studio, looking at the speakers and stuff, 0:38:55.680 --> 0:38:58.000 looking crazy as hell, man, and I was like, I'm 0:38:58.000 --> 0:39:00.640 about to head out, uh and just playing my life 0:39:01.040 --> 0:39:02.560 and that Chris is like, yeoh, play the keys before 0:39:02.600 --> 0:39:04.239 you leave free. I want you to. I want you 0:39:04.320 --> 0:39:10.560 to play for I said, oh yeah, you won't play 0:39:10.560 --> 0:39:12.120 field for her? Okay, So I got it. 0:39:12.200 --> 0:39:14.520 The motive, boy, I said this been I woulda play 0:39:14.560 --> 0:39:16.279 for my life, you know, a five heartbeats when the 0:39:16.320 --> 0:39:16.879 dude is running. 0:39:20.040 --> 0:39:22.279 This is it, I said, I'm leading, this is it. 0:39:22.400 --> 0:39:24.880 This is because every moment that I ever, I always 0:39:24.960 --> 0:39:26.759 knew had the ability to understand that this is not 0:39:26.800 --> 0:39:29.279 a normal moment. But I have to normalize this moment 0:39:29.320 --> 0:39:30.800 at the same time, which is a hard thing to 0:39:30.880 --> 0:39:34.040 do because it's like all of it or nothing at 0:39:34.080 --> 0:39:35.919 the same time. So I was like, okay, start playing, 0:39:35.960 --> 0:39:38.680 start playing. You can just see her demeanor. She's like, Okay, nope, 0:39:38.800 --> 0:39:41.319 sorry man, catch all later. I got to email that night, bro, 0:39:41.680 --> 0:39:44.000 She's like, I love your energy, your spirit, your music 0:39:44.080 --> 0:39:46.719 is incredible. Bring me what you got. February fourteen, two 0:39:46.760 --> 0:39:48.920 thousand and seven, dog, I got up six am and 0:39:49.000 --> 0:39:51.759 made the track to disturb you like that. And I 0:39:51.880 --> 0:39:53.080 was like, this is it. I got my mom in 0:39:53.160 --> 0:39:54.880 the car, I have my little shoe, just me on 0:39:54.960 --> 0:39:57.759 the track, just undred percent, not trying, but logic at 0:39:57.800 --> 0:40:01.439 this logic because you know I went to the training. Yeah, yeah, 0:40:01.480 --> 0:40:03.960 I went to the training. Was then on logic and 0:40:04.239 --> 0:40:05.759 I made my parents get up. I was like, yo, 0:40:06.000 --> 0:40:08.040 I made this beat for Rihanna hopping the car with me. 0:40:08.080 --> 0:40:10.080 We're gonna just ride around and Valencia and just I 0:40:10.160 --> 0:40:11.239 was like, this is gonna be here. I just I 0:40:11.360 --> 0:40:12.520 was like, this is it. This is the big day've 0:40:12.520 --> 0:40:15.000 been waiting for. Get to the studio. Later that day, 0:40:16.000 --> 0:40:18.440 walking in the studio, there's another producer there. He was like, 0:40:18.480 --> 0:40:20.279 what you doing here? I was like, I'm just I 0:40:20.360 --> 0:40:22.239 got a session. You know, you know some ree I 0:40:22.320 --> 0:40:23.799 got this track. He was like, let me hear the track. 0:40:24.239 --> 0:40:28.360 Play the track. He was like trash. He was like, 0:40:28.480 --> 0:40:32.400 what is this? I was like, okay, ship now what 0:40:32.840 --> 0:40:36.279 so I'll walk out. I'm walking down the hall, Dre mayor, 0:40:36.440 --> 0:40:38.799 Chris Robe. They all walking in and Chris is like, oh, 0:40:38.840 --> 0:40:40.399 that's a CD. It's a demo. Just to get out 0:40:40.400 --> 0:40:42.640 my hand. I said, all right, I'll be back later. 0:40:42.640 --> 0:40:44.200 I'm gonna go. I got to do this downtime day thing. 0:40:44.239 --> 0:40:45.839 We want to see the color purple my mom and stuff. 0:40:45.840 --> 0:40:48.160 And I was like, and the one Nigga already made 0:40:48.200 --> 0:40:49.479 you feel like your track might. 0:40:50.200 --> 0:40:53.960 I was like, yeah, today, well today I knew that 0:40:54.040 --> 0:40:55.880 life would change in my mind. I'm dramatic like that. 0:40:55.960 --> 0:40:58.480 And then uh so I'm leaving. I'm like, all right, whatever, dude, 0:40:58.520 --> 0:41:00.600 So I'll drive home. Let me do the color purple 0:41:00.680 --> 0:41:05.080 thing and Chris, hey, come back. She's loving this song. 0:41:05.160 --> 0:41:06.840 She's loving it like we got an idea for it 0:41:07.040 --> 0:41:09.480 and we can make the studio that dun dun Dune 0:41:09.520 --> 0:41:12.480 started playing it. Dra got on it. Chris started writing 0:41:12.560 --> 0:41:14.360 to it and she's like, Yo, this is my single. 0:41:15.160 --> 0:41:17.000 And I was like, what would you just say? I 0:41:17.080 --> 0:41:18.759 was like I was like, keep it cool, keep it cool, 0:41:18.800 --> 0:41:21.200 and she hit me and no. Jay Brown called me 0:41:21.360 --> 0:41:22.879 like two days later. It was like, yeah, I'm Jay Brown. 0:41:22.880 --> 0:41:24.120 I was like I heard about you, man, like I 0:41:24.200 --> 0:41:26.040 know you. Jay Brown to calling me, I was like, 0:41:26.200 --> 0:41:27.680 he's how much your church your tracks? I was like 0:41:28.840 --> 0:41:33.600 twenty thousand. He was like, hey man, that's expensive. I'm 0:41:33.640 --> 0:41:36.279 like no, just like yo, check yourself. Bro was like, 0:41:36.320 --> 0:41:39.359 well you asked me. I answer. He said, look, man, 0:41:39.400 --> 0:41:41.600 res paying for this out of her pocket. What can 0:41:41.680 --> 0:41:45.920 we do? Twelve? She wrote a check for twelve thousand. 0:41:45.960 --> 0:41:48.160 She's like, look, my budgets depleted because she did all 0:41:48.160 --> 0:41:50.720 these other tracks. But she a and north that herself. 0:41:50.760 --> 0:41:54.640 She said, I'll give you twelve, and you and they 0:41:54.680 --> 0:41:56.839 come back publishing that song. 0:41:56.920 --> 0:42:01.480 Dude, that's a lot more than a little fifteen too. 0:42:03.280 --> 0:42:06.000 That ship skyrocket is so fast, but no, not fast. 0:42:06.200 --> 0:42:08.719 Six months seven months later, sorry, and then forever right 0:42:08.960 --> 0:42:12.320 because I tapped in with Polo on Fever on the 0:42:12.400 --> 0:42:14.719 Chris Brown record, and so that's already going up in 0:42:14.840 --> 0:42:17.480 a sense, and I remember it. Sorry just to continue 0:42:17.520 --> 0:42:19.600 that that day I wasn't feel one hundred percent, but anyway, 0:42:19.680 --> 0:42:21.719 knocked that track out. So all right, here we go. 0:42:22.080 --> 0:42:24.120 There's a Chris Brown single, cls come out, and there's 0:42:24.120 --> 0:42:26.800 a Rihanna single coming out. But it goes quiet, Like 0:42:26.880 --> 0:42:29.680 you said, it's like, what will it not happen? Is happening? 0:42:30.000 --> 0:42:31.759 I go to Kansas City. My brother Kevin is my 0:42:31.840 --> 0:42:33.680 number one A and R to this day. He's here. 0:42:33.719 --> 0:42:35.120 Now I'm like, we've got to LACU shit about to 0:42:35.120 --> 0:42:38.120 go crazy now. And he was like, uh, plenty of demos. 0:42:38.120 --> 0:42:40.120 Bro let me hear what you got A planned to 0:42:40.120 --> 0:42:42.560 start played disturb the demo. He was like, oh, this 0:42:42.640 --> 0:42:45.640 is gonna go. This is your biggest hit. I was like, man, 0:42:45.719 --> 0:42:47.719 I ain't heard from him or nothing. He was like, man, 0:42:48.200 --> 0:42:50.759 this is your had Jay Brown called me that same night. 0:42:51.280 --> 0:42:52.680 Where are you at? I mean, can't sity that needs 0:42:52.680 --> 0:42:55.440 you in Denver tomorrow? We couldn't disturb you do? Went 0:42:55.480 --> 0:42:57.960 to this this Denver did the Glowing a Dark Tour. 0:42:58.040 --> 0:43:00.120 Watch it. Rihanna got a studio cut that mup. That 0:43:00.160 --> 0:43:03.200 shit came out. It's guy Rack at number one, number two. 0:43:03.800 --> 0:43:05.839 The phone call started happening, and I was like, let's 0:43:06.000 --> 0:43:07.560 go all the phone calls. 0:43:08.360 --> 0:43:10.120 I called you? You remember that? 0:43:10.280 --> 0:43:11.080 Yeah? I remember? No. 0:43:11.600 --> 0:43:16.160 So I called him and it was funny because I 0:43:16.280 --> 0:43:20.000 could tell the phone calls were coming, you know what 0:43:20.000 --> 0:43:23.960 I mean? I could tell, and it was it all was. 0:43:24.080 --> 0:43:24.239 It was. 0:43:24.600 --> 0:43:29.040 It was also funny to me because and you can 0:43:29.080 --> 0:43:31.600 tell me if this is true or not. I think 0:43:32.719 --> 0:43:34.800 at first he thought I was calling him on some 0:43:35.280 --> 0:43:40.480 you owe me that's crazy and I wasn't. And I 0:43:40.640 --> 0:43:43.040 literally was calling him just to tell him how proud 0:43:43.080 --> 0:43:43.400 I was. 0:43:43.680 --> 0:43:45.640 I remember that day. I was at the boomer room. 0:43:45.719 --> 0:43:49.600 You had number one and number two hot one hundred 0:43:49.719 --> 0:43:52.320 at the same time. I remember that day and I 0:43:52.440 --> 0:43:54.279 called him and I could tell on the phone he like, 0:43:54.680 --> 0:43:57.439 is this niggabout depressed me? Right? I was like, hold 0:43:57.480 --> 0:44:00.279 on them, this calculated real quick? How does this work? 0:44:00.320 --> 0:44:02.360 And I really just wanted to tell them congratulations. 0:44:02.680 --> 0:44:03.440 I remember that there. 0:44:03.680 --> 0:44:07.480 I remember it's because you having that and I've never 0:44:07.520 --> 0:44:11.239 had a high one hundred number one. You having that, 0:44:11.400 --> 0:44:14.080 I felt like was me having that with you no. 0:44:16.360 --> 0:44:19.520 Money. I was just like, this is the same kid 0:44:20.840 --> 0:44:23.480 broke in to your house and Blader broke into my house. 0:44:23.320 --> 0:44:24.320 And played the piano. 0:44:25.480 --> 0:44:28.239 They got the number one and two songs in the 0:44:28.640 --> 0:44:34.080 world at the same damn time. That was nigga, congratulations, 0:44:34.120 --> 0:44:34.320 thank you. 0:44:34.600 --> 0:44:38.319 That was crazy. I remember it, dude. Like I went 0:44:38.320 --> 0:44:40.320 to like call my count and I was like, so, 0:44:40.400 --> 0:44:42.440 what's this. What's this supposed to mean? Because I heard 0:44:42.440 --> 0:44:46.600 about this, I heard, so now what and then my 0:44:47.080 --> 0:44:49.960 deals I'm leave my deal now, Like so I'm literally 0:44:50.080 --> 0:44:52.880 went to Cobalt did an admin situation and I was 0:44:52.920 --> 0:44:55.480 like okay, we we all the way and that I 0:44:55.520 --> 0:44:57.480 started doing collor parks. Now keep in mind, just to 0:44:57.560 --> 0:45:01.040 be fully honest about it, I was just started and 0:45:01.200 --> 0:45:03.600 this is now at this point, like now my headaches 0:45:03.600 --> 0:45:05.920 are coming in and you probably don't remember. I remind 0:45:05.960 --> 0:45:09.400 you something too. But I started getting these migraines and 0:45:09.400 --> 0:45:11.120 they started getting a little like damn. I'm like, okay, 0:45:11.160 --> 0:45:13.000 I gotta see what's going on. I thought my wisdom 0:45:13.000 --> 0:45:16.120 teeth needed to be pulled, so into the dentist and 0:45:17.000 --> 0:45:18.520 they brought a blood pass machine out and it was 0:45:18.520 --> 0:45:20.000 like I just put on you. It was like two 0:45:20.960 --> 0:45:24.120 sixty over, like it was just crazy. He was like, 0:45:24.160 --> 0:45:26.160 the machine's broken. Machine here. 0:45:26.200 --> 0:45:27.279 They told the machine was broke. 0:45:27.520 --> 0:45:29.239 It's broke. They say, it's the defect. To get another 0:45:29.239 --> 0:45:31.400 one in here. They brought another machine in there. The 0:45:31.480 --> 0:45:34.160 dude looked at it because at me. He said, I'll 0:45:34.160 --> 0:45:36.320 be right back. He came back with a nurse. This 0:45:36.440 --> 0:45:38.560 is the dentist's office. They was like, look, we're gonna 0:45:38.560 --> 0:45:40.080 write you a letter and we need you to leave 0:45:40.239 --> 0:45:43.640 here and go to the mergency room right now. I 0:45:43.760 --> 0:45:45.680 was like, what's happening. He's like your blood pressure you 0:45:45.760 --> 0:45:49.279 should go to the mercery room now and told my sister. 0:45:49.360 --> 0:45:50.919 At the time, I had like an assistant. I started 0:45:51.000 --> 0:45:52.759 doing something that had somebody took me to. He's like, 0:45:52.800 --> 0:45:55.440 get him to the hospital right now. So first I 0:45:55.480 --> 0:45:57.120 didn't take it serious. I'm like, I'm cool, I just 0:45:57.160 --> 0:45:58.560 go later. Come my mom. She's like, man, if you 0:45:58.560 --> 0:46:00.799 don't get to the hospital right now. So I went 0:46:01.719 --> 0:46:03.880 gave them my letter. Like two or three doctors came in, 0:46:04.400 --> 0:46:06.680 came out from the back immediately and was like, we 0:46:06.760 --> 0:46:10.120 gotta drop your blood pressure. We gotta sorry my back, 0:46:10.360 --> 0:46:12.680 he said, we gotta drop your blood pressure. We gotta 0:46:12.760 --> 0:46:15.319 mit you. You're pretty much a walking struck right now. 0:46:26.800 --> 0:46:29.240 While they're doing this, like can you see can you literally? 0:46:29.360 --> 0:46:32.239 Like are you alive? How are you? 0:46:32.800 --> 0:46:33.960 Like they was how you functioning? 0:46:34.080 --> 0:46:36.040 How are you functioning? What is what's what's what's going 0:46:36.040 --> 0:46:37.480 on with the have not taken your meds? All these 0:46:37.480 --> 0:46:40.080 different things like when I'm mad or nothing. I was like, 0:46:40.160 --> 0:46:42.400 I'm straight. And they put the ivy drip and they 0:46:42.520 --> 0:46:45.040 dropped my blood pressure and I was looking at my 0:46:45.120 --> 0:46:47.520 text messages and the words fell off. So I was 0:46:47.520 --> 0:46:50.880 going like a little mini stroke episode and I was like, yo, 0:46:51.080 --> 0:46:52.800 I don't. I don't feel good at all, and so 0:46:52.920 --> 0:46:55.799 my dad, you know, next time, my mom and Dady 0:46:55.840 --> 0:46:59.880 flew up. But before and then the doctor that I 0:46:59.920 --> 0:47:01.799 was working with a first was harassing me like why 0:47:01.840 --> 0:47:03.560 are you here, like while you're at this hospital, like 0:47:04.120 --> 0:47:06.319 you're just talking like Google, you might have this, you might. 0:47:06.360 --> 0:47:08.000 I mean literally, I was like, dude, this is kind 0:47:08.000 --> 0:47:09.880 of hostile. But at the time I didn't know what 0:47:10.000 --> 0:47:12.120 it was. You know, my dad came the next day 0:47:12.200 --> 0:47:13.760 and he's like, we gotta do a bop see because 0:47:13.840 --> 0:47:17.040 something's up. And so we did a BOBC Monday and 0:47:17.640 --> 0:47:20.960 I tested. It was a reno kidney failure. FSGS is 0:47:21.000 --> 0:47:24.239 the most rare and effective and dangerous kidney disease, one 0:47:24.280 --> 0:47:25.719 of them ten percent function. 0:47:25.840 --> 0:47:25.960 Bro. 0:47:26.520 --> 0:47:28.560 Literally, they was like, yeah, you gotta switch to gears 0:47:28.600 --> 0:47:30.279 right now. We're gonna get Yournallasis. We're gonna do this. 0:47:30.320 --> 0:47:32.600 We're gonna do that. I'm sitting back like, no, you know, 0:47:33.480 --> 0:47:34.719 I got a session in a couple of weeks. In 0:47:34.760 --> 0:47:36.800 my mind, I'm like yeah, in my mind, I'm like no, 0:47:36.960 --> 0:47:38.560 I didn't come this. I'm like, hold on, is this 0:47:38.640 --> 0:47:41.680 so this is the price of success? Like I have 0:47:41.800 --> 0:47:44.560 to is this really what comes with it? And I 0:47:44.719 --> 0:47:48.040 was like I manifested everything, but who I wanted to 0:47:48.120 --> 0:47:50.560 be when it happened. And my dad alway said, they said, 0:47:50.560 --> 0:47:52.759 don't worry about making it, worry about who you are 0:47:52.800 --> 0:47:55.719 when you do make it. And I neglected that. I thought, 0:47:55.800 --> 0:47:57.640 you know, the industry is like you gotta come studio late, 0:47:57.719 --> 0:48:00.600 pull up, you know, just you know, like eating what 0:48:00.680 --> 0:48:03.040 you want to eat. You guys had a good regimen. 0:48:03.080 --> 0:48:05.200 Throw Jay always been cool. Man, He's already been chilled. 0:48:05.239 --> 0:48:06.960 Like he was like, you never I feel like you 0:48:07.040 --> 0:48:08.799 never let this shit affect you in the same man, 0:48:08.800 --> 0:48:10.600 I'm pretty sure you probably went your thing. But I 0:48:10.680 --> 0:48:13.880 always when we had a conversation, it was definitely necessary 0:48:13.880 --> 0:48:15.560 because that's when I was going through a manic episode. 0:48:16.000 --> 0:48:17.320 So when you called me, he was talking to me. 0:48:17.400 --> 0:48:19.160 I was not even I was kind of like, dude, 0:48:19.160 --> 0:48:22.000 you know some money or I probably had a hospital point. Man. 0:48:22.040 --> 0:48:24.120 I was feeling jittery from the steroids and like all 0:48:24.160 --> 0:48:26.560 these different medications they put me on, and so now 0:48:26.560 --> 0:48:29.200 I'm like a zombie kinda. So I started putting the 0:48:29.239 --> 0:48:31.399 mask on and be like, all right, I'm gonna still 0:48:31.440 --> 0:48:34.319 kill it. And so I have my doctor's appointments every 0:48:34.360 --> 0:48:36.640 other week. I had my session, so I just scheduled 0:48:36.680 --> 0:48:41.240 my session, so Hits Hospital, Grammys Hospital, blah blah blah hospital. 0:48:41.560 --> 0:48:44.600 And then I just got really depressed and I started 0:48:44.640 --> 0:48:48.040 feeling like I don't feel nothing like my whole life 0:48:48.120 --> 0:48:50.640 I did this, I don't feel I feel nothing. How's 0:48:50.680 --> 0:48:53.600 that impossible? You know? I'm getting calls. Kelly Clarkson was 0:48:53.840 --> 0:48:56.919 working on the Pink Monster media and all these things 0:48:57.000 --> 0:48:58.840 I ever I thought was supposed to be was supposed 0:48:58.840 --> 0:49:01.560 to be, didn't feel like nothing to me. I said, 0:49:01.719 --> 0:49:04.320 I'm moved to Nashville. I'm out. I'm gonna go to Nashville, 0:49:04.360 --> 0:49:05.880 get a little place still to go, stay in the 0:49:05.960 --> 0:49:07.640 TP or stay somewhere off in the cut and just 0:49:08.560 --> 0:49:11.279 a TP something get away from the ship. I'm gonna 0:49:11.280 --> 0:49:14.080 go to Nashville, get a TP and just dump off. 0:49:17.200 --> 0:49:17.319 Yea. 0:49:17.360 --> 0:49:18.800 I was like a TV, like just a place to 0:49:18.840 --> 0:49:19.200 get away. 0:49:19.520 --> 0:49:19.719 Yeah. 0:49:19.880 --> 0:49:21.560 So to me, I was like a TP on an 0:49:21.760 --> 0:49:24.319 acreage and it still does music. I'm about to kan City, 0:49:24.600 --> 0:49:25.840 but I don't want to go back. They'd loved it 0:49:25.880 --> 0:49:27.680 too much. They've been like he's back he's back. I'm like, 0:49:27.719 --> 0:49:30.480 how many years I gotta do to make people know 0:49:30.600 --> 0:49:32.400 that I'm for real? And then and then also I've 0:49:32.440 --> 0:49:34.840 been top lining I'll be keeping it cool man, because 0:49:34.840 --> 0:49:36.640 I just you know, I was raised to be modest 0:49:36.680 --> 0:49:39.080 and be humble. But I be like, y'all don't have 0:49:39.239 --> 0:49:42.440 no niggas, don't know like what this is for me 0:49:42.520 --> 0:49:44.800 and what I understand it to be. And so that 0:49:44.880 --> 0:49:48.640 I moved to Nashville years ago, and the Ryane was 0:49:48.680 --> 0:49:51.320 on that too. Uh So I like the new Nashville Surgeons. 0:49:51.320 --> 0:49:54.040 But I'm like I kind of helped get that started, 0:49:54.080 --> 0:49:55.600 you know what I'm saying. I was working the Dan 0:49:55.719 --> 0:49:57.400 Hut th Rascal Flats Canty Chesney. 0:49:58.200 --> 0:49:59.880 That's just the one name you would always say, can 0:50:00.680 --> 0:50:01.600 no Rascal Flats. 0:50:01.719 --> 0:50:04.520 Yeah, that was at that time when you first talking 0:50:04.520 --> 0:50:09.680 about you like, man, change it Rascal Flats. I'm like, yo, okay. 0:50:10.200 --> 0:50:12.080 I told this guy, I said, I'm coming in. I'm Nashville. 0:50:12.120 --> 0:50:13.040 He's like, you're a writer. 0:50:13.120 --> 0:50:13.279 I know. 0:50:13.360 --> 0:50:15.960 They got these big records. And I remember at this 0:50:16.920 --> 0:50:18.440 I was at this function where I was playing the 0:50:18.480 --> 0:50:21.640 piano and universal function, and these two guys came up 0:50:21.680 --> 0:50:23.840 to me. It was Pat Hayden and Can't Rolls. I 0:50:23.960 --> 0:50:27.080 was like, hey, man, you you do country music. I said, yeah, yeah, 0:50:27.080 --> 0:50:28.719 I do country music. He was like, when you come 0:50:28.760 --> 0:50:32.560 out to Nashville, look us up. Man. I was there, 0:50:32.960 --> 0:50:35.400 had about about a guitar and everything. I put the 0:50:35.400 --> 0:50:38.799 hat on. I'm cool on that. Like's yeah, I figured 0:50:38.840 --> 0:50:42.080 out all the way. I said, on the way four chords. 0:50:42.120 --> 0:50:44.239 I'm like. I was like, here we go. I'm here, 0:50:44.320 --> 0:50:46.959 I'm there. Four chords. All the country hits this, four chords. 0:50:47.239 --> 0:50:49.319 They say the boards, get to the chorus. I'm like, cool, 0:50:49.360 --> 0:50:52.160 let's go. So I started imitating bors get to the chorus. 0:50:52.360 --> 0:50:54.719 I started emulating songs. I started playing and singing and 0:50:54.800 --> 0:50:56.879 I would joke, but they would be like, that's really good. 0:50:57.400 --> 0:50:59.279 I was like, yeah, you're thinking so. And I said, 0:50:59.320 --> 0:51:01.480 you know what, I'm here to do pop music with y'all. Yeah. 0:51:01.520 --> 0:51:03.120 How many people here want to do pop music? It 0:51:03.200 --> 0:51:05.360 was like we my daughter love I work Rihanna. You 0:51:05.480 --> 0:51:09.680 know they got they got. They're not about the money, 0:51:09.719 --> 0:51:11.319 it's just you know, you just have a good time working. 0:51:11.440 --> 0:51:13.680 Rhianna and Chris Brown and Christopher out to be You're 0:51:13.680 --> 0:51:16.000 amazing to work with. Him. So I started working on 0:51:16.120 --> 0:51:19.239 pop songs with them and give them their community, like 0:51:20.440 --> 0:51:23.279 you know, collaborations. And I was like, and they was like, 0:51:23.440 --> 0:51:25.560 we should do country music. I'm like, you don't. I 0:51:25.600 --> 0:51:27.320 don't care. I'm like, y'all, don't don't let me do 0:51:27.360 --> 0:51:29.720 this because I'll do it for real. And so started 0:51:29.760 --> 0:51:32.000 doing it. Rescual Flats girl named Maggie Rose got on 0:51:32.120 --> 0:51:36.000 her project Kelly Clarkson did Mister Notales, hitting both genres 0:51:36.200 --> 0:51:39.399 pop in country. And then at the time, my health 0:51:39.440 --> 0:51:42.400 started getting worse. So I'm now I'm in Nashville, got 0:51:42.440 --> 0:51:44.919 a whole new life. And then I just like, I'm done. 0:51:45.200 --> 0:51:49.120 I can handle the pressure of trying to maintain that 0:51:49.280 --> 0:51:52.000 energy and have a headache. And I started thinking about suicide. 0:51:52.600 --> 0:51:55.040 I was like, I was half I found a new thing, 0:51:55.200 --> 0:51:56.960 and then that ain't complete it. I'm like, yo, what 0:51:57.320 --> 0:52:01.440 is this? Why can't I get around this thing? And 0:52:01.560 --> 0:52:03.680 I just was avoiding it. Man, I was just not 0:52:03.760 --> 0:52:06.040 paying attention to the rules. And it's not like for 0:52:06.360 --> 0:52:08.400 you know, I was drinking. I was somemore gonna do anything, 0:52:08.600 --> 0:52:10.200 taking away as girl I was. I thought I was 0:52:10.239 --> 0:52:10.960 being a good samaritan. 0:52:11.000 --> 0:52:11.120 Man. 0:52:11.120 --> 0:52:12.920 I was like, I'm gonna just be here. I'm like, 0:52:13.000 --> 0:52:15.680 so God, I'm I'm confused about while I'm in this 0:52:15.760 --> 0:52:17.359 space and you put me and get me to talent 0:52:17.880 --> 0:52:21.200 and uh And it was until lifegu life moved on 0:52:21.320 --> 0:52:23.840 and I met the person home with now you know 0:52:23.880 --> 0:52:26.279 what I'm saying. And I was almost seeming like seeing 0:52:26.360 --> 0:52:28.640 through a people. You see energies and people. And Jay's 0:52:28.640 --> 0:52:30.719 always been a constant and every time I saw you tanking. Actually, 0:52:30.760 --> 0:52:32.880 after I got out the hospital, I saw y'all I 0:52:32.920 --> 0:52:34.960 think a rock Nation Frinch or something and I was 0:52:35.000 --> 0:52:36.279 skinny of it whatever, and You was like, we need 0:52:36.320 --> 0:52:37.839 you to hear me. We need to hear bro you're good. 0:52:37.920 --> 0:52:39.440 I was like, yeah, it was y'all together. He was like, 0:52:39.480 --> 0:52:41.080 we need you hear Come on, man. I was like, thank, 0:52:41.200 --> 0:52:43.879 appreciate it. But I was fresh at the hospital. That's 0:52:43.960 --> 0:52:45.880 that's when I seen you. It was brief. But you 0:52:46.440 --> 0:52:48.160 always make sure y'all tap One thing about y'all is 0:52:48.200 --> 0:52:50.520 like brothers, y'all make sure y'all tap in, and that 0:52:50.640 --> 0:52:52.920 don't it's not happened like that. And I use that 0:52:53.080 --> 0:52:56.200 now when I meet. When I have I measured someone's energy, 0:52:56.680 --> 0:52:58.600 I try to be intentional and be present about it, 0:52:58.640 --> 0:53:01.239 because I was all the other shit man, people turn 0:53:01.320 --> 0:53:03.160 up studios all that, that's cool, But it's like RO, 0:53:03.239 --> 0:53:04.800 It's deeper than that, man, because once you understand the 0:53:04.840 --> 0:53:08.279 deconstruction of life itself, and from my experience, it's like 0:53:08.400 --> 0:53:11.160 none of this really matters other than like Western Mission. 0:53:11.760 --> 0:53:13.600 And then I remember thinking to myself like, man, I 0:53:13.640 --> 0:53:17.040 got hits by needs of heal, and so what does 0:53:17.080 --> 0:53:19.480 that look like. I was like, I want to go 0:53:19.560 --> 0:53:21.480 from making hits to healing. Didn't make a hits and 0:53:21.520 --> 0:53:24.120 so I created a nonro profit called Hits Dealing, where 0:53:24.120 --> 0:53:28.239 we reach, we teach, we connect the medical with the community, 0:53:28.920 --> 0:53:31.480 pharmaceutical with the foundation because there's a whole bunch of 0:53:31.520 --> 0:53:37.800 misconceptions about how communication works within the space of medical 0:53:37.880 --> 0:53:40.080 in our community. Because they all hit me up after 0:53:40.160 --> 0:53:41.560 my surgery and was like, we would love for you 0:53:41.680 --> 0:53:44.800 to be the frontman to this or to that, and 0:53:44.880 --> 0:53:47.520 I was like, I don't think I'm capable of doing 0:53:47.600 --> 0:53:49.720 that if I don't have the information. So I posted 0:53:49.760 --> 0:53:52.880 my story online and the comments were going up and 0:53:52.920 --> 0:53:54.720 people would hit me up and I was getting messages 0:53:54.760 --> 0:53:56.600 like yo, I have kidney failure. But what would you 0:53:56.680 --> 0:53:59.880 suggest for clinical I was like, WHOA, I don't know. 0:54:00.600 --> 0:54:03.000 I just shared my story and I was like, Okay, 0:54:03.440 --> 0:54:05.279 if I'm gonna do this, I gotta educate myself. So 0:54:05.320 --> 0:54:07.160 I quit how quit music again? I quit music like 0:54:07.160 --> 0:54:08.759 four times. By the way, I was still doing it 0:54:08.800 --> 0:54:10.360 for fun, Like I quit again. This is it, this 0:54:10.440 --> 0:54:13.719 is the moment. Everybody's quitting again. I'm like, he's gonna quit. 0:54:14.040 --> 0:54:17.960 New Revolution, the Revelation and I started teaming up with 0:54:18.000 --> 0:54:23.160 the National Kidney Foundation recently and then neft KRE Kidney Foundation, 0:54:23.719 --> 0:54:26.560 Northwest Kidney Center, America Art Association. I started looking at 0:54:26.640 --> 0:54:30.960 their you know, their their messaging and it was similar 0:54:31.040 --> 0:54:34.320 to my messaging, but they had the power and the 0:54:34.440 --> 0:54:38.320 understanding and the connections. And so I started working with 0:54:38.400 --> 0:54:40.799 them closely. And how did you even get to them? 0:54:41.000 --> 0:54:45.759 Were no check this out? I was on a high 0:54:45.800 --> 0:54:48.160 profile list and like it on my transplant, but I 0:54:48.239 --> 0:54:51.279 didn't know about that. And so a pharmaceutical company reached 0:54:51.280 --> 0:54:53.520 out to me. So what does that mean? That means 0:54:53.520 --> 0:54:57.239 that they they h they just put you at a 0:54:57.320 --> 0:55:00.200 certain tier, right, didn't know that. I was like, this 0:55:00.320 --> 0:55:02.719 is wild, Like you know who you were I went 0:55:02.800 --> 0:55:08.359 too some system whereas like he is, this is accomplished. Yeah, 0:55:08.600 --> 0:55:12.480 because they need it. They need that, they need because 0:55:12.480 --> 0:55:15.799 they for their funding, their collaborations. But with the truth 0:55:15.840 --> 0:55:18.480 be told, man, it's a lot of people want to help. 0:55:18.520 --> 0:55:20.839 They want to build. I don't know how. I don't 0:55:20.840 --> 0:55:23.000 know how and don't know. And I went in a 0:55:23.080 --> 0:55:27.040 couple of It was one particular organization that I didn't 0:55:27.120 --> 0:55:30.040 like I was working with, and the messaging was just 0:55:30.200 --> 0:55:32.719 I was like, hold on, I read an article and 0:55:32.760 --> 0:55:34.959 I was like, first of all, yall, y'all crop somebody 0:55:35.000 --> 0:55:39.440 else's dusty hands on the piano keyboards like Brian. I 0:55:39.520 --> 0:55:41.960 was like yes, man. I was like, yo, man, I've 0:55:42.000 --> 0:55:43.520 taken my hand. It's my hands, like you got to 0:55:43.640 --> 0:55:45.239 like you. I can just give you a picture playing 0:55:45.239 --> 0:55:48.359 the piano. And it was like hypertension comes from blah 0:55:48.360 --> 0:55:50.440 blah blah smoking and it was just too close. My 0:55:50.560 --> 0:55:52.360 face was too close to let all the drugs and 0:55:52.360 --> 0:55:55.040 all the things. I was like, yeah, that that's not why. 0:55:55.280 --> 0:55:57.000 And so I had to call them and within like 0:55:57.320 --> 0:55:58.680 an hour, I was on the phone with the whole 0:55:58.840 --> 0:56:02.279 entire in it from this this division, that division, and 0:56:02.600 --> 0:56:04.719 I was just telling them like I think it's a 0:56:04.760 --> 0:56:06.440 lot of tone death energy going on, and it's like, 0:56:06.440 --> 0:56:08.239 what do you mean? It was like, you're not communicating 0:56:08.239 --> 0:56:10.239 with the community. I can tell when these commercials come 0:56:10.280 --> 0:56:12.880 on that they're commercials. I can tell when there's no 0:56:13.040 --> 0:56:16.399 content build around health equity. What'd you do? I said, 0:56:16.400 --> 0:56:17.800 this is what I do. I started a media company 0:56:18.000 --> 0:56:20.600 and I started telling my own stories scoring It's doctor 0:56:20.680 --> 0:56:22.200 it up, man, I do want to do my shows. 0:56:23.040 --> 0:56:24.600 I play it before and people were just like, oh 0:56:24.640 --> 0:56:27.520 my god, it's human. It's the human experience. And that's 0:56:27.560 --> 0:56:28.960 what I've been up to, man, Like I mean, I'm 0:56:28.960 --> 0:56:31.800 still making hits, but my attention behind it. It's hits 0:56:32.400 --> 0:56:36.560 and using music as a activation to get people interested, 0:56:37.280 --> 0:56:40.319 but really tell my story and help other people tell theirs. 0:56:40.880 --> 0:56:43.200 And also, we ain't got to kill ourselves for music, 0:56:43.520 --> 0:56:45.320 you know what I'm saying, Like we know this already, 0:56:45.400 --> 0:56:48.239 but not everything comes from pain, you know what I'm saying, Like, 0:56:48.320 --> 0:56:50.440 there's happy moments that we can take and utilize. And 0:56:50.520 --> 0:56:53.600 so I've been scoring movies and stuff and building in out. 0:56:53.600 --> 0:56:56.040 But I've been tied to some in my first sorry, 0:56:56.080 --> 0:56:58.000 my first grant was come from the Giant Rocket Feller 0:56:58.080 --> 0:57:01.040 front too, and I got to my homiead On. He 0:57:01.160 --> 0:57:03.080 was just like, yo, like I'm loving what's going on. 0:57:03.239 --> 0:57:06.200 Have our conversations and there's a lot of people who 0:57:06.239 --> 0:57:08.160 want to help, and I'm like, cool, let's go. And 0:57:08.200 --> 0:57:12.400 so now that I have that going on and music 0:57:12.960 --> 0:57:14.880 and then also ip in between, so I'm trying to 0:57:14.920 --> 0:57:16.800 understand back to the business. I'm back in my business. 0:57:16.800 --> 0:57:18.840 Shit but crazy now because I'm understanding, like I want 0:57:18.840 --> 0:57:23.160 to build, reach, teach, connect medical centers, and help us 0:57:23.960 --> 0:57:27.440 as a community understand that it's preventive health care. We 0:57:27.520 --> 0:57:29.200 got a genetic test. We got to know, like just 0:57:29.280 --> 0:57:31.360 like we know stats. We got to know our health 0:57:31.760 --> 0:57:33.680 and that's important. So for me, you know, I slip 0:57:33.760 --> 0:57:35.960 up sometimes and just like don't be on it like 0:57:36.000 --> 0:57:37.560 I should. But I check my blood, pursure, I drink 0:57:37.600 --> 0:57:39.840 my water, get my sleep. I check in, you know, 0:57:39.920 --> 0:57:41.640 and I make sure I'm on the up and up. 0:57:41.760 --> 0:57:44.400 But for the most part, man, this is the new 0:57:44.480 --> 0:57:47.760 chapter for me. It's not like the it's not like 0:57:47.880 --> 0:57:52.880 the big conversation in our community. Just getting checked. 0:57:53.080 --> 0:57:54.600 Yeah, like. 0:57:56.080 --> 0:57:58.080 Like to know where you I mean, I went through 0:57:58.120 --> 0:58:02.160 a similar thing where I felt. I thought I felt amazing. 0:58:02.320 --> 0:58:07.000 I felt amazing, I looked I looked great. But that 0:58:07.200 --> 0:58:13.440 blood work, dude says something totally when I say different. 0:58:14.400 --> 0:58:16.040 They was asking me. I was like, so, are you 0:58:16.160 --> 0:58:19.920 depressed like you? I was like, are you having problems here? 0:58:20.280 --> 0:58:20.320 No? 0:58:21.600 --> 0:58:22.800 I was like, I work out twice a day, I 0:58:22.880 --> 0:58:25.320 perform on weekends. I was like, They're like, how are 0:58:25.400 --> 0:58:28.080 you doing this? I was like, I don't know. Am 0:58:28.080 --> 0:58:29.920 I not supposed to? And they started reading off the 0:58:30.040 --> 0:58:32.080 charts and I was like, no, you are not. 0:58:33.120 --> 0:58:33.360 Wow. 0:58:33.440 --> 0:58:35.760 And if we don't, we don't. We don't know how 0:58:35.880 --> 0:58:38.240 long whatever you own or whatever it is, is going 0:58:38.280 --> 0:58:39.720 to last. So we got to get you right from 0:58:39.760 --> 0:58:40.360 the inside. 0:58:40.760 --> 0:58:41.040 Wow. 0:58:41.640 --> 0:58:44.760 And that and this is this is this is me 0:58:44.840 --> 0:58:49.480 at forty something years old, just discovering that. Of course, 0:58:49.520 --> 0:58:51.560 you go get checked from your doctor and all of 0:58:51.640 --> 0:58:56.600 these things, but there's so many other answers and questions 0:58:56.640 --> 0:58:59.680 that you need to ask. That's it, because that's it 0:59:00.480 --> 0:59:04.800 they're gonna treat you for. They're gonna treat you for 0:59:04.880 --> 0:59:06.040 what's happening now. 0:59:07.520 --> 0:59:08.440 And such does this hurt? 0:59:08.920 --> 0:59:09.120 Yep? 0:59:09.280 --> 0:59:11.600 Cool, let me fix that. Let me give you something 0:59:11.680 --> 0:59:15.720 for that. But most of the time, they're not warning you. No, 0:59:16.880 --> 0:59:18.800 the things around the corner prevented it. 0:59:19.200 --> 0:59:21.680 Because now because you gotta realize it's like for some 0:59:22.480 --> 0:59:24.880 it's smart as clienteles. It was like come on back, 0:59:25.080 --> 0:59:28.480 come on, come back, you know, and it's like experiencing 0:59:28.560 --> 0:59:30.720 that as wild because I never did diallass. I turned 0:59:30.720 --> 0:59:32.720 it down. I was like, you didn't do it, you 0:59:32.800 --> 0:59:35.040 never did. I was like, I'm good, I'm so glad 0:59:35.080 --> 0:59:37.000 you did. I was just like, and I would you know, 0:59:37.920 --> 0:59:40.240 I will always say, do your research, talk to your doctor. No, 0:59:40.320 --> 0:59:42.160 I'm not going to work for you what works for you. 0:59:42.280 --> 0:59:44.160 And for me, I was like, man, what I'm not 0:59:44.200 --> 0:59:46.200 about to do is take my travel restrictions away. I 0:59:46.200 --> 0:59:47.760 didn't came up here and did all this stuff. 0:59:47.760 --> 0:59:52.280 And you have to decide in your mind how hard 0:59:52.400 --> 0:59:57.160 you're going to fight to not have to go on diallasas. Yes, 0:59:59.360 --> 1:00:03.080 that's a different fight, Yep, that's a different clean up. Yeah, 1:00:03.200 --> 1:00:06.440 one hundred percent. And that's that's literally what I was 1:00:06.520 --> 1:00:08.120 doing with and then I'll go back. I was in 1:00:08.200 --> 1:00:10.920 and out of like binging, like in out burders. I'm like, 1:00:10.920 --> 1:00:12.240 I don't care no one like then, But I was 1:00:12.320 --> 1:00:13.920 like you know, water workout. 1:00:14.120 --> 1:00:16.000 I had had a got hired a chef, and then 1:00:16.040 --> 1:00:17.600 I started had a trainer, and I was doing all 1:00:17.840 --> 1:00:19.040 everything I thought I was supposed to do. But I 1:00:19.040 --> 1:00:21.040 was like, I'm not doing it. He's like, there's there's 1:00:21.120 --> 1:00:22.760 ones you can take in your house and look, I'm 1:00:22.800 --> 1:00:25.280 like this not sexy to me. I'm like, I'm not 1:00:25.360 --> 1:00:27.560 doing this. And maybe it was a moment of where 1:00:27.600 --> 1:00:29.960 I was like, I don't want to inconvenience of having 1:00:30.000 --> 1:00:32.160 to be somewhere else, Like if this, if I'm going out, 1:00:32.160 --> 1:00:35.560 I'm going out the way I always imagine doing music 1:00:35.680 --> 1:00:37.520 and being free. I didn't. I didn't come in here 1:00:37.560 --> 1:00:39.560 to like to be in a jail in a sense, 1:00:39.640 --> 1:00:41.160 but you know, some people don't have the choice, and 1:00:41.240 --> 1:00:43.640 so yeah, you know, so I still I still work 1:00:43.680 --> 1:00:46.640 with other organizations that's tied to Dallas's, but for me, 1:00:46.760 --> 1:00:48.080 I just want to go and accept it. I was 1:00:48.120 --> 1:00:50.640 like nah. And then it's almost like the therapist was like, 1:00:51.280 --> 1:00:53.400 but you are you depressed? Like he said, are you depressed? 1:00:53.440 --> 1:00:55.600 Like I'm like, nah, should I be? It's like, maybe 1:00:55.600 --> 1:00:58.400 you should be depressed because this is that. And then 1:00:58.440 --> 1:01:01.000 I just had my support system, my brother, and my 1:01:01.120 --> 1:01:04.840 sister Biggie Victor Charlie, all my parents stuff is like 1:01:04.880 --> 1:01:08.160 all right, cool, but I was still like, still feel 1:01:08.240 --> 1:01:10.960 isolated though, because they would never really know because no 1:01:11.040 --> 1:01:14.040 one is checking on you for your medications, like taking medications. 1:01:14.080 --> 1:01:15.680 So I said, it was a battle. It's and and 1:01:15.880 --> 1:01:18.880 it's and it's ongoing. My my transplant is a treatment, 1:01:18.960 --> 1:01:22.400 not an actual care. So I'm still say it again. 1:01:22.480 --> 1:01:25.480 The transplant is just a treatment, but it wasn't a cure. 1:01:25.880 --> 1:01:27.520 It's not a cure, not a care at all. So 1:01:27.640 --> 1:01:30.240 my brother is lifespan, but the fact that my brother 1:01:30.360 --> 1:01:34.160 was an identical match, it was crazy. And so I 1:01:34.200 --> 1:01:35.880 still to take care of it the same way I would, 1:01:35.920 --> 1:01:38.840 you know, any other thing. You know what what percentage 1:01:38.960 --> 1:01:43.000 is is I'm fully functioned now fully functioned. Yeah, he 1:01:43.080 --> 1:01:45.960 definitely gave me. I was like, good looking, thanks for 1:01:46.000 --> 1:01:47.800 that for sure. 1:01:49.120 --> 1:01:50.680 He was dancing with at the super Bowl. 1:01:51.840 --> 1:01:54.600 He's back, moving back, moving man, for real? I got 1:01:55.040 --> 1:01:58.240 was I was kidding dude? For sure? I started walking more. 1:01:58.280 --> 1:02:00.800 I was like king and I'm like, oh in So 1:02:00.960 --> 1:02:03.760 my thirties was way more and I feel better now 1:02:04.560 --> 1:02:07.280 than I ever felt my twenties. Wow, and that's when 1:02:07.960 --> 1:02:12.480 I and that's when I always felt like, it's your plan, 1:02:12.680 --> 1:02:14.400 and then there's the plan that guy already has for you. 1:02:14.680 --> 1:02:16.520 And then also it's like not trying to control too 1:02:16.600 --> 1:02:19.040 much because if I had in my mindset, if I 1:02:19.160 --> 1:02:21.560 never went through that because my mom was on the business, 1:02:21.560 --> 1:02:22.960 I was alridy about to flip half of the city. 1:02:23.000 --> 1:02:24.200 I was like, I'm gonna get this house. I mean, 1:02:24.240 --> 1:02:26.240 I was already on this whole monopoly thing. I was like, 1:02:26.720 --> 1:02:28.680 had this vision. But God was like, nah, that's not 1:02:28.800 --> 1:02:30.320 the vision I got, Bro, You're about to sit down. 1:02:30.320 --> 1:02:32.880 You're about to take it. And so it took away 1:02:33.000 --> 1:02:36.720 my ability to care about things that I thought I 1:02:36.760 --> 1:02:38.760 should have cared about. So it kind of slowed me 1:02:38.840 --> 1:02:41.640 down enough to realize that I had to go come 1:02:41.680 --> 1:02:44.120 back to the beginning. So this is actually living at 1:02:44.160 --> 1:02:47.120 the beginning again. However, hits were still being made, you know, 1:02:47.200 --> 1:02:49.680 things were still being going on the residuals, right, and 1:02:49.800 --> 1:02:52.440 so I was able to take that and utilize that 1:02:52.520 --> 1:02:55.720 and started focusing on the future. But uh yeah, straight up, man, 1:02:55.840 --> 1:02:58.280 that's I feel every day I'm alive. I'm like, it's 1:02:58.280 --> 1:02:58.919 a blessing, dude. 1:02:59.120 --> 1:03:02.000 So where is it that people that are maybe going 1:03:02.040 --> 1:03:04.680 through some of these certain things, where would you suggest 1:03:04.800 --> 1:03:08.480 that they look into, like what are some good organizations? 1:03:09.000 --> 1:03:13.880 For sure? Yeah, hitstealing dot org. That's what it is. Yeah, 1:03:13.960 --> 1:03:16.600 because what it is is well that and is anything 1:03:16.720 --> 1:03:20.160 that's related to their actual disease. Where are they going 1:03:20.240 --> 1:03:23.080 through there is an organization that's so if it's kidneys 1:03:23.080 --> 1:03:26.120 and it's like all these kidney organizations, if it's you know, 1:03:26.240 --> 1:03:29.200 heart's heart organizations, which is high pretension. But for sure, 1:03:29.240 --> 1:03:31.360 what we're doing and his stealing is just creating more 1:03:32.120 --> 1:03:36.520 accessible and relatable content and conversations. Because the problem with 1:03:37.240 --> 1:03:40.680 I always say doctors are like musicians, Like when musicians jam, 1:03:40.760 --> 1:03:42.360 they're doing it for each other and not the people. 1:03:42.840 --> 1:03:44.600 And doctors are talking to each other, not the people. 1:03:44.640 --> 1:03:46.520 And so for me as a even as a pianist, 1:03:46.520 --> 1:03:48.720 as that correlate. When I play, I want to pour 1:03:48.720 --> 1:03:52.560 into people. I don't care about esthetically, what you brought. 1:03:52.360 --> 1:03:52.760 What you up. 1:03:53.000 --> 1:03:55.000 I'm like, man, you're going somewhere, bro, it's cool. I 1:03:55.120 --> 1:03:57.320 just want to I want to make sure who, including 1:03:57.400 --> 1:03:59.960 the if we affected by it, then I did my job. 1:04:00.480 --> 1:04:13.760 My god, stel freaking enough to say it going. That's 1:04:13.760 --> 1:04:17.080 going down. Man, I've been writing, I've been like composing stuff. 1:04:17.440 --> 1:04:18.840 Everyone's I want to see the magic. I want to 1:04:18.880 --> 1:04:22.280 see it like you feel it. I can't see it, 1:04:22.280 --> 1:04:23.640 you gotta feel it. And by the time they realized 1:04:23.640 --> 1:04:25.080 it all right, like you know, so that's why I'm 1:04:25.080 --> 1:04:26.520 all right now and just doing the whole thing like that. 1:04:26.760 --> 1:04:28.800 Cut me in and cut it out. Started out there. 1:04:30.000 --> 1:04:31.960 Yeah you know my. 1:04:37.880 --> 1:04:41.959 Okay, I know y'all talking crazy going on. They cut 1:04:42.040 --> 1:04:44.480 me in, Okay, I better ja, I better have a song. 1:04:45.480 --> 1:04:46.800 He Jacob closed that door. 1:04:48.480 --> 1:04:49.160 Stopping there. 1:04:49.360 --> 1:04:50.960 We about to start singing this murder dance. 1:04:51.040 --> 1:04:51.800 We want to. 1:04:54.920 --> 1:04:57.720 Come on play that murder Man. Real about a demo 1:04:57.840 --> 1:05:00.040 here today? I was like, man, for two seconds and 1:05:00.120 --> 1:05:00.880 me get my laptop. 1:05:02.160 --> 1:05:04.560 I was like, is that where murder Man starts right there? 1:05:08.960 --> 1:05:15.440 Ye oh that's great, that's great. Yeah, yeah, they got 1:05:15.480 --> 1:05:17.200 the piano players in the bid. 1:05:19.880 --> 1:05:20.080 Yeah. 1:05:22.160 --> 1:05:25.880 Brian Kennedy, that is affluent that you are on this 1:05:27.240 --> 1:05:36.640 this thing. But I feel like you've you've played and 1:05:36.720 --> 1:05:40.600 heard a lot of music in your time. We've come 1:05:40.680 --> 1:05:44.120 to a place to where we all want to know 1:05:44.200 --> 1:05:46.400 your favorites. Man, we want to know the music that 1:05:46.560 --> 1:05:47.200 inspired you. 1:05:47.320 --> 1:05:50.920 Man. This section is a special section for us because 1:05:54.640 --> 1:05:55.800 I don't know where I'm going with them. But what 1:05:55.840 --> 1:06:00.280 I want to say is that the people to know 1:06:02.080 --> 1:06:13.040 you're top five want to know your top five jam, 1:06:13.680 --> 1:06:25.280 top fire. Your top five are the easeing alry me songs. 1:06:26.280 --> 1:06:27.840 Go to your phone where you. 1:06:27.960 --> 1:06:29.400 Want to know it. 1:06:29.560 --> 1:06:34.640 Don't god us in saying Louis no moon, He's home. 1:06:34.800 --> 1:06:35.320 We go. 1:06:38.760 --> 1:06:51.400 Yeah, Wow, that's crazy, ring ring it a home? 1:06:53.840 --> 1:07:06.400 Fine, yeah, yes, up, nice all nice, got a little 1:07:06.440 --> 1:07:09.720 got a little Disney, little Disney. 1:07:09.440 --> 1:07:19.360 Vibes, Man, Frank Kennedy, your top five R and B singers, Man, 1:07:20.600 --> 1:07:24.120 Stevie Wonder, Wow, bridey Night. 1:07:24.760 --> 1:07:31.400 You're gonna pick off everybody could play the piano, uh Brandy? 1:07:32.400 --> 1:07:37.760 Yeah, boys to man yea, yeah those are if young man, 1:07:37.760 --> 1:07:40.640 How are you? I'm forty, you're forty forty? 1:07:40.760 --> 1:07:45.240 Now are you a man? I was at your fortieth birthday. 1:07:45.280 --> 1:07:48.200 I just thought about that. Yeah, yeah, I didn't put 1:07:48.320 --> 1:07:48.520 up on. 1:07:48.680 --> 1:07:53.720 Your yeah water, Yeah, that's crazy. What's the spot that 1:07:54.000 --> 1:07:55.960 the verse at manny spot? 1:07:56.080 --> 1:07:56.920 Yeah, manni verse. 1:07:57.120 --> 1:07:58.440 Yeah, let's just shout that out too. 1:07:59.040 --> 1:08:02.440 Oh my you been. That's what we just at for 1:08:03.440 --> 1:08:08.680 for for our guys. Grammy party, oh DJ camp. 1:08:09.160 --> 1:08:14.240 Camp Yeah yeah yeah, fire vibes in there, crazy and 1:08:14.320 --> 1:08:21.400 the sound is vibes. That was That's what we had summer. Okay, 1:08:21.680 --> 1:08:26.840 about five R and B songs. Okay, I wrote the 1:08:26.920 --> 1:08:32.280 damnse if I can remember for obvious reasons anytime Brian Night. Also, uh, 1:08:33.920 --> 1:08:37.439 back Street Don't Leave Me, Brandy the way You Touch Me? 1:08:38.200 --> 1:08:43.840 Come on Son, yeah come wow. That song is Whyzy. 1:08:45.400 --> 1:08:50.280 Oh my god, the production on that, that literally gave 1:08:50.360 --> 1:08:52.400 me a whole era of inspiration. I was like, what 1:08:52.600 --> 1:08:54.479 is what am I hearing music? 1:08:55.120 --> 1:08:55.160 What? 1:08:55.760 --> 1:08:59.880 Yeah? That's wold what for sure? And then uh, I 1:09:00.080 --> 1:09:02.839 want to know Joe. When I've seen the Wood soundtrack, 1:09:02.880 --> 1:09:05.400 I was like, what is this like? Then that was crazy? 1:09:05.439 --> 1:09:10.160 And then you're remind me I made the first time 1:09:10.160 --> 1:09:12.160 I heard it, I was I kept my mind. I heard, 1:09:12.240 --> 1:09:14.400 I heard, but I was like, okay, I'm just beat. 1:09:14.479 --> 1:09:15.920 Something is up. So I remember hearing that on the 1:09:15.960 --> 1:09:16.400 school bus. 1:09:18.240 --> 1:09:22.200 She got four MP she got and you got some 1:09:22.320 --> 1:09:23.080 more piano for. 1:09:24.160 --> 1:09:26.800 I ain't saying no n I ain't saying no name, 1:09:27.320 --> 1:09:30.559 ain't saying no names, ain't saying no where you was. 1:09:33.000 --> 1:09:33.720 What you did? 1:09:34.240 --> 1:09:49.800 You don't say she I ain't saying no. Wow, all right, 1:09:49.880 --> 1:09:52.880 you know where we're at. Okay, part of the show. 1:09:53.000 --> 1:09:57.759 We let's go very important segment. 1:09:57.960 --> 1:10:01.040 So hold on, hold on, okay, okay, okay, okay. 1:10:01.120 --> 1:10:01.720 You tell us a. 1:10:01.760 --> 1:10:06.479 Story funny and fucked up, A funny and fucked up 1:10:06.600 --> 1:10:08.120 in the travels in the times. 1:10:08.920 --> 1:10:12.760 Brian Kennedy b k mistif for tone? What what's the 1:10:12.800 --> 1:10:13.280 other nigga? 1:10:13.280 --> 1:10:13.560 You was? 1:10:13.800 --> 1:10:19.439 So? Be unique? Okay? 1:10:20.320 --> 1:10:22.479 He sounds that sounds like what your uncle ben what 1:10:22.600 --> 1:10:28.280 he called himself? Want to see you go the song? 1:10:28.680 --> 1:10:32.120 If you're free, if you want to spend some time 1:10:32.280 --> 1:10:33.559 with be unique? 1:10:38.240 --> 1:10:42.840 Oh man, you too, You're too young to be calling 1:10:42.880 --> 1:10:43.439 yourself that. 1:10:43.600 --> 1:10:43.720 Bro. 1:10:44.080 --> 1:10:46.760 Know like. 1:10:48.840 --> 1:10:51.080 I was like hell a teenager? What like I had 1:10:51.080 --> 1:10:53.519 a hat, I had a concert everything, Bro, you want 1:10:53.600 --> 1:11:00.519 to get a cut. You should be see the unique 1:11:00.520 --> 1:11:01.240 like Nel Slaughers. 1:11:01.280 --> 1:11:03.439 I was like, Bro, I was definitely all be unique, 1:11:03.520 --> 1:11:05.000 had to be signed a Solar record. 1:11:07.920 --> 1:11:21.799 Yeah, lit be unique? Yo? That is incredible? 1:11:21.800 --> 1:11:24.759 All right? What's your eyes? 1:11:26.920 --> 1:11:27.920 The game name? 1:11:28.920 --> 1:11:31.800 I keep it real simple there. Uh, this is Brian 1:11:31.880 --> 1:11:35.559 Kennedy BKD. Time fully hit her out in a minute. 1:11:36.240 --> 1:11:38.360 At this point, now I'm like, okay, I want to 1:11:38.400 --> 1:11:40.720 work on any everything that is available to more me 1:11:40.840 --> 1:11:44.720 to work on. So this artist got booked that I'm 1:11:44.720 --> 1:11:46.960 a huge fan of, like I grew up on some 1:11:47.080 --> 1:11:51.000 of this stuff. And my dad was coming that week 1:11:51.040 --> 1:11:53.080 with my parents. I talked my dad, Hey, man, all 1:11:53.120 --> 1:11:56.559 my sessions are like wholesome, chill, be chilling. You should 1:11:56.560 --> 1:11:57.840 come to the studio. Man. He's like, I help you 1:11:57.880 --> 1:11:59.719 with your business, but I ain't gotta be in the studio. 1:11:59.760 --> 1:12:01.439 That's no. I want you come to this session, man, 1:12:01.640 --> 1:12:03.560 just on any giving day. Let me know. He's like, 1:12:03.560 --> 1:12:07.560 I'm gonna come to Wednesday. The artists get there, and 1:12:07.640 --> 1:12:09.760 I'm a fan. I'm like, bro, pleasure to meet you, 1:12:10.160 --> 1:12:11.880 like my dad's can come. It's gonna be a wholesome set. 1:12:11.880 --> 1:12:12.000 You know. 1:12:12.240 --> 1:12:14.400 I say wholesome, I just mean like chill and crazy. 1:12:14.760 --> 1:12:17.040 So I thought, and the artist is like, man, pleasures 1:12:17.080 --> 1:12:18.320 meet you, bro. I got you know. I got my 1:12:18.439 --> 1:12:20.160 dad's right next to me. He probably bigger about the 1:12:20.240 --> 1:12:22.160 patrol was like a little lot basing going on. I said, okay, 1:12:22.240 --> 1:12:24.320 no wrong that people want to get inspired, we go 1:12:24.439 --> 1:12:27.120 to the studio. He's I got some more inspiration pulling 1:12:27.200 --> 1:12:29.879 up for us. That's inspiration. He'said, hey, we need inspiration. 1:12:30.000 --> 1:12:33.320 That's so cool, bro. Two strippers a wrestler who was 1:12:33.360 --> 1:12:37.559 a stripper, a wrestler or a wrestler strip wrestler, stripper. Yeah, 1:12:37.640 --> 1:12:39.960 that's what I said. So two strippers come in and 1:12:40.000 --> 1:12:43.439 then one was a professional wrestler stripper. Let's wrestling and 1:12:43.680 --> 1:12:45.600 uh my dad was like yeah, i'n't let you have 1:12:45.680 --> 1:12:48.280 this one. I said, I promise you all my sessions. 1:12:49.400 --> 1:12:51.760 I was like, he's like, what is it? What is this? 1:12:52.400 --> 1:12:54.240 I was like, man, who, I said, we got to 1:12:54.240 --> 1:12:56.720 cater to. And then the artist is like, yo, Dad, 1:12:56.840 --> 1:12:58.560 is he a pastor or something? I said no, no, 1:12:58.680 --> 1:13:00.680 he cool. He said, all right, trying to start, and 1:13:00.800 --> 1:13:02.599 I was like, oh, be cool, man, we can keep 1:13:02.640 --> 1:13:05.800 it cool. I'm in there making beats. The rest are 1:13:05.840 --> 1:13:08.320 over here, got my homie choked up like this. He's 1:13:08.400 --> 1:13:12.120 like like yeah. He's like, yo, hey, stop stop that stop, 1:13:12.240 --> 1:13:15.559 let it go, Let it go. He almost stepped out. 1:13:15.720 --> 1:13:17.240 And then I'll make some beach stuff. Try to keep 1:13:17.240 --> 1:13:19.160 the innergme. I'm like, yo, I'm a fan of this opportunity. 1:13:19.400 --> 1:13:22.439 This opportunity must happen. I've been uniqu's been in worse 1:13:22.479 --> 1:13:23.600 situations before. 1:13:24.000 --> 1:13:26.280 Not really but kind of like, you know, this got 1:13:26.360 --> 1:13:28.640 here I have Yeah, for sure. It's like I can 1:13:28.720 --> 1:13:29.680 maintain you whever this is. 1:13:29.920 --> 1:13:32.240 So I'm making beats and the vibes are going, and 1:13:32.320 --> 1:13:35.439 it's like a circus wrestling show, one stripping and one's 1:13:35.439 --> 1:13:37.800 doing this, and then and and the artists like told 1:13:37.840 --> 1:13:39.120 you to get crazy, We're gonna were gonna make this 1:13:39.200 --> 1:13:42.439 make I was like, yeah, bro, like sure. So I 1:13:42.560 --> 1:13:44.240 was like the one of the longest, shortest sessions I've 1:13:44.240 --> 1:13:46.840 ever had, ever had, but it was interesting. But the 1:13:46.880 --> 1:13:49.960 whole thing was my dad's supposed to witness me do 1:13:50.040 --> 1:13:52.160 my producer thing, and he was like, yeah, I don't 1:13:52.200 --> 1:13:56.040 know about this, so you can have that and then 1:13:56.080 --> 1:13:58.120 to bite me. That's how Rianna comes together because this 1:13:58.160 --> 1:14:00.240 ain't it. So it's coming when those moments. So I 1:14:00.280 --> 1:14:03.040 can't say no names, but definitely was an experience. Did 1:14:03.120 --> 1:14:03.920 you get a hit out of it? 1:14:04.479 --> 1:14:04.679 Man? 1:14:05.240 --> 1:14:07.320 Uh, the hit didn't come out, but the song he 1:14:07.400 --> 1:14:10.400 was doing was very, very present. It was very in 1:14:10.479 --> 1:14:12.800 that moment. In the moment he said that's how I 1:14:12.800 --> 1:14:14.680 write these songs. I was like, you don't say so. 1:14:14.800 --> 1:14:16.160 The song is called put You in the Pressive. 1:14:19.920 --> 1:14:27.040 Yeah, I mean they got paid, but you gotta know, yo, 1:14:28.600 --> 1:14:31.720 he legit almost choked out. I'm like, bro, don't you 1:14:31.800 --> 1:14:33.600 know you gotta have etiquette? Bro, like let them do 1:14:33.680 --> 1:14:35.960 what they do. And he just doing too much. She 1:14:36.120 --> 1:14:37.960 was like, I'm a wrestler for real. Bro, I'm gonna 1:14:38.000 --> 1:14:39.519 choke your friend. It took like three of us to 1:14:39.640 --> 1:14:42.280 I'm gonna choke your friend yo. And he was like, 1:14:43.120 --> 1:14:46.320 She's like do it and she grabbed him and he 1:14:46.479 --> 1:14:48.519 was like, I was like, this is serious and she 1:14:48.680 --> 1:14:51.720 was litting everything. I was like, I was like, man, 1:14:51.720 --> 1:14:53.920 I think I'm just go home and make some poppy together. 1:14:54.000 --> 1:14:55.479 Man like I can't do this. But it was it 1:14:55.560 --> 1:15:00.680 was an interesting experience. Got it. That's good session with him. 1:15:01.160 --> 1:15:12.760 I need to get Ring the Wrestler, Ring Blood Wrestler. No, 1:15:12.920 --> 1:15:14.600 it was like trench coat vibe and everything. It was 1:15:14.640 --> 1:15:17.040 like it went from this to that. Fact. You know, 1:15:17.439 --> 1:15:19.760 I wasn't drinking nothing. I was always just keeping it. 1:15:19.760 --> 1:15:21.479 I was always level, So I mean, I'm not jopping 1:15:21.520 --> 1:15:24.559 in sessions, I'm chilling, I'm not judging nothing, but I'm sober. 1:15:24.760 --> 1:15:28.800 But this is not so activity taking place. I go 1:15:28.960 --> 1:15:30.479 to the house and the hills after this is gonna 1:15:30.479 --> 1:15:32.439 get crazier. I was like, this is where I stopped. 1:15:32.800 --> 1:15:37.080 This is my It's gonna get crazy. This ain't crazy. Yeah. 1:15:37.600 --> 1:15:40.679 So that was it on Friday drinking sessions. I'm glad 1:15:40.680 --> 1:15:43.320 you didn't partake because some of us aren't that strong. 1:15:46.600 --> 1:15:48.800 Next time you saw me was being a WrestleMania. 1:15:49.320 --> 1:15:50.439 Where should like that Bud. 1:15:54.600 --> 1:15:57.720 Come on, brother, buddy, brother, you know me and my 1:15:57.760 --> 1:16:04.760 whole comedian as Jean watch read him and saying the 1:16:04.840 --> 1:16:14.040 prayers brother, she wow, what you mean many? Yeah, I'm 1:16:14.160 --> 1:16:18.680 all the way ahead. He even took this nigga back 1:16:18.680 --> 1:16:21.440 to his Yeah the Greatest. 1:16:23.320 --> 1:16:27.080 Wrestling. His interviews were crazy though, Nigga Yeah. 1:16:27.080 --> 1:16:30.360 Rappish and Rick Rude, Jake the Snake Yo, I was 1:16:30.439 --> 1:16:32.439 the wonderful Paul Off Yo. 1:16:32.520 --> 1:16:36.040 I'll watch rout your interviews just for inspiration. Within a 1:16:36.160 --> 1:16:37.840 ten year span, Like when I was going through, I'm like, 1:16:37.880 --> 1:16:39.960 what this dude say. Yeah, sometimes you get down, but 1:16:40.000 --> 1:16:41.479 you gotta just get back in the game. The creamp 1:16:41.560 --> 1:16:43.040 rides to the time of like this dude' hype me 1:16:43.160 --> 1:16:45.479 up and it's all fake but maybe not. Somebody's gotta 1:16:45.520 --> 1:16:49.599 get back to that, yo. I'm literally yeah, interviews is crazy. 1:16:49.880 --> 1:16:51.280 I gotta get I gotta get back to that. 1:16:51.400 --> 1:16:53.160 You're gonna start giving inspirationalview. 1:16:53.160 --> 1:17:00.360 I'm gonna start giving Clicho man, Randy Sadly inspiration no 1:17:00.640 --> 1:17:04.920 fight board videos. Did you know you can't just let 1:17:05.040 --> 1:17:09.760 them roll over? You could give them a nsion, now 1:17:10.040 --> 1:17:13.439 take a mile. You can't let him do what I 1:17:13.760 --> 1:17:15.320 tell you now that. 1:17:17.200 --> 1:17:20.240 You men is never letting your slide. 1:17:21.760 --> 1:17:23.200 You got a headache yet not. 1:17:27.160 --> 1:17:31.640 Hilarious, never letting you slide. 1:17:37.320 --> 1:17:39.519 He was in it for really, he that wrestler would 1:17:39.520 --> 1:17:42.840 have came to the studio. I'm just telling you, I'd 1:17:42.880 --> 1:17:43.120 have been. 1:17:43.080 --> 1:17:44.960 In my world. That's crazy. 1:17:45.160 --> 1:17:48.240 It was he was wrestling for sure. Well, Uh, mister, 1:17:49.360 --> 1:17:52.360 it's getting mister, get these names together. Brian Kennedy. 1:17:54.280 --> 1:17:59.639 Aka A k A. What's the wrap on Lavone? 1:18:00.240 --> 1:18:00.920 Mister Bouton? 1:18:01.080 --> 1:18:07.120 Mister, yes, that's how mister Bouton is. Like I was. 1:18:07.200 --> 1:18:11.160 It was like, it's not Louis, but it's you know, 1:18:11.800 --> 1:18:19.479 it's giving me money talks in the past, Bouton started 1:18:19.520 --> 1:18:20.000 hanging together. 1:18:20.640 --> 1:18:26.200 Uh to be here you go? What was it again? 1:18:26.520 --> 1:18:30.439 Unique be unique you had here when you was be 1:18:30.560 --> 1:18:33.439 unique too, right like I burn or something that's right, 1:18:33.560 --> 1:18:40.240 the skinny cyburn. 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But everything you've you're accomplishing and everything that 1:19:20.160 --> 1:19:23.839 you've fought through and not just survived but are thriving 1:19:23.960 --> 1:19:26.439 through at this point in your life. Man, that's that's 1:19:26.479 --> 1:19:30.000 the gold Man. That's the gold Man. And we we 1:19:30.120 --> 1:19:33.720 salute you, brother, appreciate it, We salute you. We love you, brother, 1:19:33.720 --> 1:19:35.920 and we are we are we are better because you 1:19:36.000 --> 1:19:36.320 are here. 1:19:36.600 --> 1:19:42.680 Wow, for real. And you know, let us know how 1:19:42.760 --> 1:19:43.719 we can be involved. 1:19:44.680 --> 1:19:46.280 We can let us turn up someone what they call 1:19:46.320 --> 1:19:47.200 them gallus. 1:19:52.920 --> 1:19:55.840 Turned up. Let us turn the things out man like 1:19:56.120 --> 1:20:00.320 one un Like some of you, those it's amazing. Yeah, 1:20:00.439 --> 1:20:03.240 but yeah, we do need to be in those rooms 1:20:03.280 --> 1:20:05.439 so we can show them what it is, show them 1:20:05.439 --> 1:20:07.920 how to get that information to ye to the people 1:20:07.920 --> 1:20:09.280 who need it and need to understand it. 1:20:09.800 --> 1:20:10.000 Yeah. 1:20:11.600 --> 1:20:12.519 God man, we love you. 1:20:15.600 --> 1:20:17.200 And this is the R and B Money podcast, the 1:20:17.280 --> 1:20:22.559 authority on all things R and B. This has been music, 1:20:23.320 --> 1:20:26.240 and this has been health man, this has been wellness. 1:20:26.960 --> 1:20:28.599 This is this and this has been awesome. Man. 1:20:29.120 --> 1:20:32.719 Appreciate the real giant, giantladies and gentlemen. 1:20:35.880 --> 1:20:40.280 Thank you. R and B Money. 1:20:41.400 --> 1:20:43.200 R and B Money is a production of the Black 1:20:43.240 --> 1:20:47.840 Effect Podcast Network. 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