Speaker 1: R and B Money.
Speaker 2: Honey, we are.
Speaker 3: Thank take Balati. We are the authorities on.
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Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1: My name is Tank and this is the Army Money Podcast,
Speaker 1: the authority on all things.
Speaker 2: Are and behind technical.
Speaker 3: I am am articulated, are you?
Speaker 1: I'm being very very technical about being intentional because the
Speaker 1: gift UH is at a high level, high level. There
Speaker 1: are prodigies here excellence that starts damn near the womb
Speaker 1: what uh. And we're going to get into the conversations
Speaker 1: of what that excellence and the tutelage and that learning
Speaker 1: and that gift has brought the pass ladies and gentlemen, songwriter, producers, musician,
Speaker 1: extraordinary Brian.
Speaker 3: Man tea in the back to have t when you're excellent?
Speaker 1: You got little doughnuts? How you doing, brother, I'm blast man.
Speaker 1: It's been a month of Sundays.
Speaker 3: Good to see you. It's great to see you.
Speaker 1: The only thing I know about you is that you're
Speaker 1: an awesome human being, beyond kind hearted and your gift is.
Speaker 3: Out of this world. Thank you, not a not a
Speaker 3: not a bad.
Speaker 1: Nothing ever on your name ever, which is tough in
Speaker 1: this space, especially when you've had the kind of success
Speaker 1: you've had because you could have easily turned into anything.
Speaker 2: I was like, I know his parents, they weren't going.
Speaker 3: Bringing the crazy cring and disturb yond Conkybie should be
Speaker 3: here and five.
Speaker 2: Y'all.
Speaker 3: Wow, man, that's crazy though, that's real, like, but I mean,
Speaker 3: it's just it's the it's it's the unfortunate nature of
Speaker 3: the business where the access can take you if you
Speaker 3: are not grounded in something solid. And even when grounded, man,
Speaker 3: they can get you're telling me, you know, I woke
Speaker 3: up many and many and many a bed roommate. Who
Speaker 3: else is it? Like? This baby is there?
Speaker 2: What it's not? It's you can't have babies that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's hilarious. Man. Look, I'm going to kids to
Speaker 3: make some food. You want some.
Speaker 4: Don't ever be a nigga who spent the night making
Speaker 4: food when the kids wake up.
Speaker 2: Never been that guy the baby's home, I've never.
Speaker 3: I've never been. Oh, bro speak Brian, Yes, sir, let's
Speaker 3: let's let's let's go back to the beginning. Up man barbecues. Yes, yes, absolutely.
Speaker 1: Is it a church house somewhere where they say brought
Speaker 1: up boy right there?
Speaker 5: Boy?
Speaker 3: You got that one. Oh my god, you can't see
Speaker 3: Missouri obviously grew up, I can't city. My parents had
Speaker 3: an old beat down piano. That's where I started. Uh
Speaker 3: it's old Steinway that was in the house and that's
Speaker 3: probably like four or five man, and I was see
Speaker 3: it and so I was intrigued by it. I just
Speaker 3: started banging on it. My parents like just give them
Speaker 3: lessons like that, you know. I was going to church obviously,
Speaker 3: as we all do, and I I was always intrigued
Speaker 3: by the drums first, and then I got to the piano,
Speaker 3: had some lessons and the teacher was like, yeah, he's
Speaker 3: not focused enough. And my brother was taking lessons with me, Kevin,
Speaker 3: because he's more calm, collected and more just he's more
Speaker 3: you know, strategy wise. And I got kicked out the
Speaker 3: pan lessons. Bro, that's my first got kicked out. It
Speaker 3: was like, I don't think it's for him to the
Speaker 3: point to where he's like he just doesn't focus. And
Speaker 3: then after I got kicked out, I started going to
Speaker 3: church again, started playing. I was like, oh, I'm listening
Speaker 3: to the radio some Brian miannight or I'm hearing things
Speaker 3: like yo, I can play that star. I started just
Speaker 3: picking the part and I was like, if I can
Speaker 3: figure out at a young age, I knew, if I
Speaker 3: can figure out how to eliminate every wrong on this,
Speaker 3: I can only get it right. That's not my mentality.
Speaker 3: So I started just every day she started banging on
Speaker 3: the piano. I was like, one day, this is gonna
Speaker 3: sound like something crazy, and then more I started doing it,
Speaker 3: and then moro, I started practicing. The marrows started feeling it.
Speaker 3: And keep in mind too, I got you know, our
Speaker 3: brothers listened to like rap, my sisters listening to like
Speaker 3: some Kenny g My dad's mom listened to Temptations, So
Speaker 3: it's always like some musical pharaoh. Faris will of like
Speaker 3: just different inspiration. And then they started clicking droude. And
Speaker 3: then at the church, I was like, young man, you
Speaker 3: know your gift serve the Lord. I was like, how
Speaker 3: much is this I'm gonna get favorites or not? You
Speaker 3: know type of thing you wanted to know that early well,
Speaker 3: because I always figured man, because I've seen people gigging.
Speaker 3: I knew a gigging was. I'm like people getting getting paid.
Speaker 4: How old were you at this point, I like eight
Speaker 4: eight nine.
Speaker 3: I knew that at a young age.
Speaker 1: But what what you got on on my on my
Speaker 1: nerve set, because you know, I'm seeing people, you know,
Speaker 1: getting a little money here you don't money.
Speaker 3: But because I knew, I was like at this at
Speaker 3: that time, I knew, I was like, I want to
Speaker 3: be a musician for the rest of my life. I
Speaker 3: want to do something. Then immediately because I was like,
Speaker 3: I just love it too much, And I discovered a
Speaker 3: way when I was playing to feel something more than
Speaker 3: just like the the excitement from no no no, I
Speaker 3: would actually get spiritually like I'm like, man, I feel like, dude,
Speaker 3: I'm hearing the music, I'm feeling it, like getting like
Speaker 3: like this is crazy that this does that, you know.
Speaker 3: And then like you know, friends down the street come over,
Speaker 3: and I remember one time it's a little girl right
Speaker 3: down the streets to my friends from school came in.
Speaker 3: I was like, let me play something. I'm playing. I'm
Speaker 3: playing a piano and brose, she just started crying. I'm like, dude,
Speaker 3: what the hell just happened. I'm like, what does this
Speaker 3: even me? I'm like, you cool with what happened? She's like,
Speaker 3: she's the way you play type of thing, and I
Speaker 3: was just like, Yo, this is something more deeper than
Speaker 3: just being adult. For me, it was never about like musicianship.
Speaker 3: I love musicians, I love being part of the musician community,
Speaker 3: but I just can't It's an ego that comes with
Speaker 3: that that I just can't identify with. So that's why
Speaker 3: I started taking like more contemporary and I still do
Speaker 3: costom stuff too, obviously in church, but I was like,
Speaker 3: I don't do something like Bruce Hornsby or George Winston Route.
Speaker 3: But when when I saw that, I was like, well,
Speaker 3: I can get If it's her, I get one hundred
Speaker 3: more hers and I sell a CD. Then we popping.
Speaker 3: And so I started a little jazz label that's like
Speaker 3: twelve one Team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was was It's not because I seen the CDs.
Speaker 3: I started this is wow. I did my album at
Speaker 3: his house because I want my money. What Yeah, I
Speaker 3: was like, man, I want to do this for real.
Speaker 1: So what was was, was anybody in place to kind
Speaker 1: of give you any type of direction on how to
Speaker 1: get to all of.
Speaker 3: That that he coming in He was like, okay, so
Speaker 3: all right, I see you got your music stuff going on,
Speaker 3: and so what is your plan? Because he always gives
Speaker 3: us like tapes on stocks and stuff that I didn't
Speaker 3: care about that, at least the way he was presenting it,
Speaker 3: because he would read every day and he was just
Speaker 3: more of a j know was my dad. He's more
Speaker 3: of a like dadda. He was like, Yo, get up,
Speaker 3: you're gonna do this. We're gonna the Joe Jackson vice.
Speaker 3: But mine is getting you know, beat up anything we
Speaker 3: don't allegedly allegedly sorry, I'm sorry, my bad, sorry, allegedly
Speaker 3: I got it. Allegedly got it cool? Edit, Okay, like
Speaker 3: hold on, man's good. But now he would sit down
Speaker 3: with me and be like, all right, if you're serious
Speaker 3: about this, I want you to practic every day, and
Speaker 3: then became repetition and I was like, damn, I want
Speaker 3: to practice, and he's like, now we're gonna go. So
Speaker 3: I took some UMKC college courses when I was in
Speaker 3: middle school to learn the theory of it because my
Speaker 3: ear is much faster than my eyes.
Speaker 1: Okay, so here's what I want to say. What I
Speaker 1: want to say to that because I experienced that as
Speaker 1: a kid trying to take lessons. The thing about when
Speaker 1: I was in there taking lessons is that it wasn't
Speaker 1: what I heard that made me excited about playing the
Speaker 1: piano in the first place. When I got there and
Speaker 1: they put me in you know, middle C with both
Speaker 1: my thumbs and we started playing whatever this classical basicness was.
Speaker 1: I was like a classical basics. I was like, no, no,
Speaker 1: I want to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, have you have you heard Charlie Brown? Yeah? I
Speaker 3: want to.
Speaker 1: How do we you have to start here? But I
Speaker 1: don't want it? And it wasn't that what we're learning now.
Speaker 1: It wasn't that you didn't have the attention span to learn.
Speaker 1: They didn't know how to get your attention.
Speaker 2: They didn't promote the creativity.
Speaker 3: They didn't know where to meet him.
Speaker 1: Like my son when he started his piano lesson, the
Speaker 1: first thing his piano teacher asked him was what do
Speaker 1: you like? And he was like, I like, what's supposed
Speaker 1: to the thing with the kids be flying in the rooms
Speaker 1: and ship?
Speaker 3: Uh Harry Potter. I like Harry Potter.
Speaker 1: She was like, Okay, let's learn Harry Potter's tight and
Speaker 1: here's the theory behind Harry Potter, and here's how you played.
Speaker 1: This is what And he learned Harry Potter learns how
Speaker 1: to read it and play it, transpose it.
Speaker 3: See a teacher at a rusting lady was like if
Speaker 3: you was in my country with chop your hands. I
Speaker 3: was like, yo, yeah, this is like this is in
Speaker 3: middle school. So I'm now I'm in middle school doing
Speaker 3: my thing. And then I'm like yo, and she's being
Speaker 3: super She's like, you have potential. And every time I
Speaker 3: would do something like that, they couldn't process. It was
Speaker 3: like what is this? What is this junk is? I'm like, yo,
Speaker 3: this is this sounds like something. I'm like, I'm like, man,
Speaker 3: what And then I just started So I started just
Speaker 3: watching her and I just learned and started playing. Some
Speaker 3: men learn to play this, so I can just pass
Speaker 3: this class. So I became passive learning, so which gave
Speaker 3: me the ability to recognize how fast I can learn music,
Speaker 3: and I want to transfer that to like a business.
Speaker 3: I was always trying to get to and not for
Speaker 3: the sake of just game, but just like I want
Speaker 3: to because I knew at a young age is like
Speaker 3: I gotta, you know, prepare for life as much as
Speaker 3: like I don't know why. I'm like my dad had
Speaker 3: to go.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out who you are early but
Speaker 1: my early businessman.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like my dad, you know. He was just like, yo,
Speaker 3: this is no businesses. You know, you know, chores and
Speaker 3: you know. So it wasn't it wasn't a do or
Speaker 3: dim mentality. But I was just always fascinated, you know,
Speaker 3: And I always one thing my parents do often will
Speaker 3: take us open houses when we were young. So we
Speaker 3: live in the inner city, you know, a nice house,
Speaker 3: middle class. Now it's like popping all the way, but
Speaker 3: we would go out to like North Kansas City and
Speaker 3: look at these big mansions. So at a young age,
Speaker 3: I was like, yo, I won't live like this. One
Speaker 3: day my dad was like, for sales, it don't say
Speaker 3: for sale for who, so if you want it, you
Speaker 3: gotta work hard for it.
Speaker 2: And I was like, I don't say for sale for who,
Speaker 2: it just has for sale.
Speaker 3: And I was like, do you think I can get
Speaker 3: a BMW in high school? He was like, now, maybe
Speaker 3: if you can afford it. I never got it, But
Speaker 3: the point was I was just highly motivated, and then
Speaker 3: somewhere along the way I just started feeling the passion
Speaker 3: of it and then just getting into like this life
Speaker 3: of it all. And so then the business kind of
Speaker 3: doing it away a little bit. I just started focusing
Speaker 3: on just loving music and being normal.
Speaker 2: Did you go to that uh what is it called?
Speaker 3: For sale? For Sale High School?
Speaker 2: That's the that's the music school.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah for sure. So you went there too, Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's that's how they running. Okay, yeah, for Sale high School.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: And it was a class called applied Technology. It was
Speaker 3: room two twenty two, mister Ransom, And I was like,
Speaker 3: what is this class as opposed to taking another class?
Speaker 2: Look at these niggas that remember the classes they took.
Speaker 3: Oh? Man, it was crazy. It was master tracks. I said,
Speaker 3: what is master tracks? My boy Charles was like, you
Speaker 3: play piano, dope, But he's like, when you make beats,
Speaker 3: it's crazier. I was like, man, I played piano, bro
Speaker 3: I'm a concert beats concert piano doing at the Milan Theater.
Speaker 2: So he was late.
Speaker 3: He said, trembling make it. I was like, well, I
Speaker 3: like trembling stuff is dope. And I was like, wait
Speaker 3: a minute, let me So I went in there started
Speaker 3: remaking beats. I started making Michael Myers flips and like
Speaker 3: and then Take nine obviously is still killing it. And
Speaker 3: that was the goal and that was the mark, that
Speaker 3: was the focus. I was like, let me start making beats,
Speaker 3: and every day I was to get better, and I
Speaker 3: was like, this is dope. We're making beats on this
Speaker 3: thing called master Tracks. It was a black and white screen,
Speaker 3: so it was like edit like it was just master tracks,
Speaker 3: this program do and and my boy had a castio
Speaker 3: that make beach too. So at this point I'm getting obsessed.
Speaker 3: And then it's like the simpler machine some in there
Speaker 3: just like cool and so the same. So you already
Speaker 3: know Ronnie, me and him was in the same class
Speaker 3: and he's making beats and he's telling me like the Triton, bro,
Speaker 3: because he was working with Done and we had it
Speaker 3: and then can't city. We was like, look, we about
Speaker 3: to turn this whole thing up. And he was like,
Speaker 3: we gotta get the Triton. That's what if you ain't.
Speaker 3: Because Ronnie always had the fly stuff.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: He always lived aund the corner for me. So I'm like,
Speaker 3: dam I need to try it too. So I tell
Speaker 3: my dad, I said, the Triton is uh like five thousand.
Speaker 3: I just hyped it all the way up. I know
Speaker 3: at some point my dad was minest, but he was
Speaker 3: a business until he did real estate and he had
Speaker 3: his stuff together and so I figured if I turned
Speaker 3: the price up on him a little bit, and he
Speaker 3: was like, whatever, I got cars. All my courses cost
Speaker 3: that much money. And I was like, well, maybe one
Speaker 3: day a year ago by and I'm like, it's on
Speaker 3: stuff for twenty two. He said, twenty that's a good deal.
Speaker 3: I was like something I said, I for I wait
Speaker 3: long enough. I got to bring it down. You always
Speaker 3: shoot higher and then you lett on where you want
Speaker 3: to know, no negotiations, negotiating.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he was.
Speaker 3: Like, let's get it. I was like yeah. I was
Speaker 3: like cool. I was like, Charles bro got this track,
Speaker 3: were gonna bro. I made beats all day, all night.
Speaker 3: I was obsessed making tracks. Man. I started a label.
Speaker 3: You don't even know. Man. I had an alias because
Speaker 3: this is the business. This is a business motel. I
Speaker 3: was okay between this black range, that black range. My
Speaker 3: dad is also doing construction and so he's doing construction
Speaker 3: for at Ye Boys. So he's like he's a rapper.
Speaker 3: He's a rapper. I'm like, oh word. And so master
Speaker 3: P was always the mode, right, So I'm like, hey, man,
Speaker 3: you should do the master P thing. Like what would
Speaker 3: you think I can do this? I'm like, yeah, I'll
Speaker 3: give you a deal on some beats, like, let me
Speaker 3: let me throw all your tracks for you, get you
Speaker 3: a label, bro. I didn't convince like three of these dudes.
Speaker 3: How much was you selling? Beat fifteen hundreds, beat fifteen dollars?
Speaker 3: Beat you in high school? High school? My dad took it.
Speaker 3: He was like, all right, man, he built the studio
Speaker 3: with it. Throw. He was like, I said, do a
Speaker 3: song deal. I'll give y'all. Matter of fact, I usually
Speaker 3: do fifteen. You know, I'll be out there working with Donald.
Speaker 3: I said, you know what this dude, maybe we do
Speaker 3: like fifteen songs, twenty songs. He was like, I got that.
Speaker 3: That's nothing. I said, man. I was like, he's about
Speaker 3: to go down. He said he's about to make Diamald's bag.
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, I mean, I'm all the way.
Speaker 3: I'm all the way in with this, and my dad
Speaker 3: was like, give it. I was like to put some
Speaker 3: of church go tied. I said, all right. That was
Speaker 3: kind of hard for me to do. The time. I
Speaker 3: was like Jesus two thousand. I was like, man, you
Speaker 3: need all two thousand. I got this left, went to
Speaker 3: this place called Landing, got geared up. I gotta look
Speaker 3: like a producer. Now I'm making beats. I gotta let
Speaker 3: people know. Hey about here place said you went to
Speaker 3: the church with the landing, the land the landing bro
Speaker 3: air force ones, I got the man. It was on
Speaker 3: pro producer be Unique? That's today who be unique?
Speaker 2: Be Unique?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: Was it?
Speaker 3: I was like beat for sale Now I'm out here
Speaker 3: for real, like got the equipment. Hearing about it.
Speaker 2: I just off your name.
Speaker 3: Your beats sound weak. He's gonna say that. No, that
Speaker 3: was hard bro, I had.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm buying ten beats from be
Speaker 2: you need you right?
Speaker 3: That's an R beat, that's an That was an R
Speaker 3: and B sock. I still want to had R and B.
Speaker 3: I'm not something like baby here on. Yeah. That was
Speaker 3: it man. It was like I was like what could
Speaker 3: I do? I was like, right, all right, cool and
Speaker 3: it went down though I had had people rotating in
Speaker 3: the basement, and then my dad was like, rather than
Speaker 3: be in the basement where I can hear all them,
Speaker 3: all of them, versus being out because all the everybody
Speaker 3: from the block was just like he cool because it
Speaker 3: was always activity, like a lot of activity. They was like,
Speaker 3: y'all see him he's cool. He got a future, so
Speaker 3: we're gonna protect that. So every time I come to that,
Speaker 3: all right, So.
Speaker 2: They got you on one block and Ronnie around the corner,
Speaker 2: like four blocks away.
Speaker 3: Is he doing b too? Is either man Ronnie killing
Speaker 3: it killing? Ronnie had like three or four drives like look,
Speaker 3: but obviously always say he's like, bro, we gotta go,
Speaker 3: we gotta work. I was like, what's the urgency? Say
Speaker 3: it's urgent, gotta work. Bro. I was like, all right, cool,
Speaker 3: I'm working because I always done my own little thing anyway.
Speaker 3: But uh yeah, yeah. He had a couple people of it,
Speaker 3: and I had the same thing. I was like, it
Speaker 3: was either little Ronnie, little r productions be unique. I
Speaker 3: was like, come over here, man, it's prolific productions. And
Speaker 3: I also had my jazzing going, so I will actually
Speaker 3: go like the Beverly Hills of Kannas City and do
Speaker 3: a piano concert real quick. And so I had this
Speaker 3: whole like on Brian Kennedy, I'm here to perform my
Speaker 3: music and you want to be unique, and then I'll
Speaker 3: be unique. Switching, bro, I was switching, I was like,
Speaker 3: but I was keeping it. I will always say I'll
Speaker 3: say what I say anywhere, but were just how I
Speaker 3: said it. And I was like, all right, let me
Speaker 3: be cause I would actually study this ship. Then I
Speaker 3: would literally go to the plaza and I would sit
Speaker 3: back and I would want to get this gig at Norsetroums.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I want to be the pim player who
Speaker 3: plays at Rshales whatever reason another and put it on
Speaker 3: and do this. So I went over there and no, sorry,
Speaker 3: it was this hotel, the Hyatt, my bad and uh
Speaker 3: And I was like, I'm playing piano. They had a lot.
Speaker 3: He was like, oh yeah, no, you have to get hired,
Speaker 3: get on the schedule, to in the resume. They had
Speaker 3: a lot to do. It was like no. I was like, okay, cool,
Speaker 3: So back to the landing. Got a suit, put a
Speaker 3: suit on, put a little square so church shoes on,
Speaker 3: had a little book. I just sitting there every day,
Speaker 3: just studying and looking at the pim players and I
Speaker 3: can kill this dude and the guys like I help
Speaker 3: you all. My das's in town on business doing real estate.
Speaker 3: Just here a composer. But I'm just enjoying. Oh you
Speaker 3: should play okay, yeah, yeah, you look like the bunny.
Speaker 3: I started playing bro swear the whole hotel. Everyone was like,
Speaker 3: what is this. I was like, I just study a
Speaker 3: little kid started. I started playing like, uh was it
Speaker 3: Bruce Hornsby? All these different songs that I knew they
Speaker 3: would know. They didn't know what to do. They was like, yo,
Speaker 3: this is I'm here once a month, we travel often,
Speaker 3: we travel often. Yes, you know who you like? Now
Speaker 3: remember the movie Catch Me if you can?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a kid to kid tell me he's
Speaker 2: a pilot.
Speaker 1: He was.
Speaker 3: He was everything. Dude, you're giving me catching me if
Speaker 3: my sister VICKI and she started catching on. I mean
Speaker 3: she's always being a supporter. She was like, you, dope,
Speaker 3: you actually got some going on, something to help you
Speaker 3: because's always moving around, traveling, no people and stuff. And
Speaker 3: she was like, all right, we're gonna hit this gig.
Speaker 3: And she's like, less your own concert to start building
Speaker 3: our concerts. And I started using the grand piano and
Speaker 3: then to try and making beach to throw and do
Speaker 3: this whole spectacle everything and then to fast forward that. Man.
Speaker 3: I was like, all right, cool. I did my jazz
Speaker 3: concert and it sold out, and my little sister Charlie
Speaker 3: was like, man, that was a good concert, like your
Speaker 3: what was it shoulder pads and your little square tal
Speaker 3: I was like I looked at him here like this
Speaker 3: can't be it. Bro, I saw my future for my eyes.
Speaker 3: I was like, I can't be it. I'm not going down.
Speaker 3: I mean, I love jazz, respect to it. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: can't be on some nineteen twenty year old jazz thing.
Speaker 3: I can't do it. And by that time, Ronnie, me
Speaker 3: and Ronnie always keeping contact and he was like, bro,
Speaker 3: I'm out of La now. He was catching if you can,
Speaker 3: brocause I'm at home still on kans Citt. I'm in
Speaker 3: Atlanta now. And then he's like producer so so deaf.
Speaker 3: I'm sitting there. But he would always call me and
Speaker 3: be like, man, you got to get to La now.
Speaker 3: I was like, what's going on? He was like, man,
Speaker 3: I'm telling you it's popping out here. We out here.
Speaker 3: I was like, man, I'm getting the ticket where you live. Man,
Speaker 3: We're good. She's like, yep, I gotta play, so, you know,
Speaker 3: saying with my boy Jay I said Jay j He
Speaker 3: like he cooled me. He's like, come on, let's go.
Speaker 3: But but hey, but he definitely was like I'll give
Speaker 3: it to him because he was like, bro, you been home,
Speaker 3: ain't gonna do nothing for you. So went out. I
Speaker 3: went to the house. It was nice. I like the
Speaker 3: I like the house. It was this dude man like
Speaker 3: I'm in the house. I don't know what happened. He's like,
Speaker 3: I'll be back or something. But you cool, he said,
Speaker 3: I'll be back. Yeah, okay, I like cool. I like
Speaker 3: it might be it might as well be a pool
Speaker 3: outsize of palm trees and stuff. You know, I can't
Speaker 3: sity nice but still on the palm trees. I'm out here.
Speaker 3: I'm like on the phone like yeah, I'm at this house,
Speaker 3: chilling man. And then I go into the room on
Speaker 3: the piano. Bro, I said, I said, room in here,
Speaker 3: the keyboard. They shouldn't do that, you know. I'm on
Speaker 3: the keys. Then I hear the door. I was like
Speaker 3: he's like what up? Like what up?
Speaker 1: Bro?
Speaker 3: Like, who are you? Was like, I'm Jay, Like, oh,
Speaker 3: nice to meet your Boston. He was like yeah. I
Speaker 3: was like, this is his house, this is his keyboard,
Speaker 3: said to you. He was like I was like right,
Speaker 3: and he was like okay cool. I was like making beats.
Speaker 3: I was like Tama whole joy just like not friendly,
Speaker 3: but he was measuring the temperature. Always always come in hot, nigga.
Speaker 3: I was like, I said, George cast you Ronnie or
Speaker 3: nigga will ever be nice? Nice?
Speaker 1: But he was like these niggas don't know these niggas.
Speaker 1: You're my balance, bro, motherfucker, you're my balance. But you
Speaker 1: have a nice smile.
Speaker 3: God damn. But didn't feel it felt like he was
Speaker 3: just okay. He assessed it. So I'm like, okay, I
Speaker 3: think you know some weird ship.
Speaker 4: I was like, no, because I said it before we
Speaker 4: spoke about you on the podcast before. It's not a
Speaker 4: niggas gonna break in your house and play the piano
Speaker 4: like the first time, almost like.
Speaker 6: A damn food.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like, I don't think a nigga gonna break in
Speaker 4: the house and play piano. But what it was it
Speaker 4: was that the door was unlocked.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: And I'm sure he didn't know that now we were
Speaker 2: talking about it in hindsight, he didn't know that. But
Speaker 2: it's my studio.
Speaker 4: Everything, everything is in there, and I don't this was
Speaker 4: my studio house. I don't live there, so I'm think
Speaker 4: I go to put the door and I'm like open,
Speaker 4: So now you got his gun ready, I can legally
Speaker 4: kill you in my property right.
Speaker 2: That was the young man was playing piano. Man, it
Speaker 2: sounds so good, don't you agree? You know what if
Speaker 2: this nigga you know what, he played good, I ain't
Speaker 2: gonna shoot his fingers.
Speaker 3: Becomes that very moment. Like not long after that, he
Speaker 3: was like, yo, you said you got beats. I was like,
Speaker 3: he said, uh, you know, I was like do I Yeah.
Speaker 3: He was like, he's coming through the night. You're sitting
Speaker 3: there with us. I was like, mom, I think you
Speaker 3: made it. I mean, I turned. I was like, bro,
Speaker 3: this is crazy, Like I can't believe this. I'm sitting here.
Speaker 3: He's like, Yo, this is shying this. I'm sitting back
Speaker 3: to me, I'm like, y'all, don't under stay in the level.
Speaker 3: And then Ronnie is like, like working on these tracks
Speaker 3: to me, this is something I've been wanting to do
Speaker 3: my whole life. Soon as because for me, it's opportunity.
Speaker 3: I'm taking it, you know. But the same time, I
Speaker 3: got to be be respectful. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Jay was always like always being just like, yeah, let
Speaker 3: me talk to you. Literally, bro. When I we first
Speaker 3: had like he was like, let go have grabbed it
Speaker 3: or whatever. Dude had a receipt. He's like for my
Speaker 3: account and I said, for yo, who my account? Said?
Speaker 3: He knows business? This person I should have made a
Speaker 3: long time ago. But it's always just been like on
Speaker 3: some brother shit bro like legit like never ever been
Speaker 3: anything where. Because he connected me with Ethiopia, he was like,
Speaker 3: I need to connect you with and he was like, look,
Speaker 3: this is what we're gonna do. She was like, don't
Speaker 3: make no sort of moves and he was like, you
Speaker 3: always say stuff that I would just pick up on
Speaker 3: because I had manager management at the time. And then
Speaker 3: on a E played her stuff and she was like,
Speaker 3: hold tight, I got an ideal for you. And it
Speaker 3: just started slowly but surely happening, you know. And then
Speaker 3: there was another time you're Ronnie went up and then
Speaker 3: you went up to the underdogs. I was like, we're
Speaker 3: gonna wear you might just said Heaven for me because
Speaker 3: that was like for Knox to get into You can
Speaker 3: see the gate the car when usually dropping somebody off
Speaker 3: like man, man, dude, I got in the elevator.
Speaker 1: You.
Speaker 3: I was like, this is be cool about it. Don't
Speaker 3: don't trip you know because my tea whiz you know. Started.
Speaker 3: I was like, bro, we do this right. We could
Speaker 3: be underdogs soon, so this could be this could be
Speaker 3: the booth but no, but on Surreal he started, Uh
Speaker 3: Troy now, Troy knuckle Is started interning up there as
Speaker 3: an engineer, so he snatched on those demos and so
Speaker 3: we would listen to him at like and I was like,
Speaker 3: this is the mark, this is the moment, this is
Speaker 3: what we need to do. And I just started studying, studying,
Speaker 3: and I already had some kind of a musical identity
Speaker 3: based on what I heard, but I've never heard production
Speaker 3: so clean. Bro, Oh my god, the background, the vocals,
Speaker 3: the writing. I'm like, and Jay I wrote this song,
Speaker 3: it's a Mario song. I was like, you wrote this song? Bro,
Speaker 3: Like you're gonna just tell me? I act normal? Possible?
Speaker 3: Are you?
Speaker 1: So?
Speaker 3: Why are you so calm? My name? Was like, I
Speaker 3: told you, nigga, this is real out here. I was
Speaker 3: like I'm here and uh yeah, man, and it just started.
Speaker 3: I remember the defining moment was I was working another producer.
Speaker 3: He had me go to the studio and I ran
Speaker 3: into Sierra and I didn't know. I didn't know her.
Speaker 3: I just like, you know, I mean, come from I
Speaker 3: can't see me.
Speaker 2: You didn't know you didn't know her?
Speaker 3: Well I didn't. I'm like, oh, I know you. I'm
Speaker 3: sorry I thought I know you. But she's celebrity, you know,
Speaker 3: I didn't met her. I'm like, I know you. How
Speaker 3: you been? She's like who are you?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 3: How are you being? Like, I'm like, good to see you.
Speaker 3: So I didn't know I didn't know her, Like, oh,
Speaker 3: I don't know you. You're Sierra. Got you? Well, well,
Speaker 3: since you're Sierra, I have a demo, bro. I would
Speaker 3: put almost brought demo today. I was like, bring my
Speaker 3: laptop just the case. I'm like, never mina stop, chill out.
Speaker 3: I'm always like ready for opportunity. I just gave her
Speaker 3: a CD and I was like here's I left the
Speaker 3: studio and he called me. He was like, yeah, what
Speaker 3: did you do at the studio? I was like, okay, damn.
Speaker 3: She's like no, no, come back. Candice Nelson and Sierra's
Speaker 3: writing something to one of those tracks.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: And that day. A couple of days before that, man,
Speaker 3: I saw my dad. I was like, man, la is hard. Obviously,
Speaker 3: I'm like this is getting a little tough. I can't
Speaker 3: afford it. My dad would help me when he could.
Speaker 3: And they was like, we want this song for the project. Bro.
Speaker 3: I was like, yo, my first placement me and tiz
Speaker 3: I was on Cloud whatever. What song is that? My
Speaker 3: love number eight off the Evolution album. Wow? Yeah? And
Speaker 3: I was like I didn't know you did that? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Me and me and is like we did. We literally
Speaker 3: changed everything. He was like, yo, I'm gonna get you
Speaker 3: locked in. Did the deal. From there, I was still
Speaker 3: tapping in other producers, doing a play for hire thing
Speaker 3: because now I got my show out here once a
Speaker 3: week at mynt Rose and it was like a jazz
Speaker 3: night or live music night, and that's popping off, like
Speaker 3: baby Face show up to that, David Foster polo is
Speaker 3: your show? What do you mean? Yeah? Like Brian Kennedy.
Speaker 3: So I did this thing where me and my friend
Speaker 3: Titus uh the j on the bass, Tracy on a guitar.
Speaker 3: So at the time, Uh Tom was like, yo, this
Speaker 3: is the place. My boy Keith Belcher was like, you
Speaker 3: should do like this wine bar where you do once
Speaker 3: every other Tuesday. Just performed like Brian Kennedy jazz the
Speaker 3: Because I was still popping off as a musician in
Speaker 3: Kansas City, and we went out passed off flyers and
Speaker 3: sure enough it was nice elegant. I said, this is Mark,
Speaker 3: I can I can do something with this. You know,
Speaker 3: I was having Brian Kennedy. We got to play some
Speaker 3: jazz and we ain't here playing my boy DJ killing it,
Speaker 3: Titus on the drums, t Whiz on another keyboard, and
Speaker 3: it started going off. So I was doing that and producing.
Speaker 3: So I'm like, Okay, I got a hit. I got
Speaker 3: not a hit out, I got a hit project, you know, Tierra.
Speaker 2: And were you making money off of that when you
Speaker 2: were doing that?
Speaker 3: Were you making any money off of that enough to no,
Speaker 3: not really survival survival, enough to just get a little
Speaker 3: something going on. And I felt like, yeah, it was survival,
Speaker 3: but the homie Keith was like you know, and then
Speaker 3: Tom parlated something different, so it was more like, you know,
Speaker 3: getting out there, but.
Speaker 2: You didn't have to go get a ninety five.
Speaker 3: No, I didn't have to get that five. My parents
Speaker 3: and my dad would help me like monthly, like I
Speaker 3: take care of your when when he could. No.
Speaker 2: Because the other thing that I remember when I didn't
Speaker 2: shoot you.
Speaker 4: Was you had CDs. Oh you know you had CDs.
Speaker 4: You had had a jazz project. And that's the other thing.
Speaker 2: I was like, I also can't shoot a jazz nigga either.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like it's jazz, bro. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: how do I even talk about that in the whole tank?
Speaker 4: Put you into your phone, man, this little jazz niggas
Speaker 4: playing on my house man, and I shot him no, bro, right,
Speaker 4: So but I remember you had the jazz CD and
Speaker 4: that's when you were and we start talking and it's
Speaker 4: it's right when everybody has their side of how the
Speaker 4: conversation winning out, you know what I mean, what they
Speaker 4: perceived from it. But what I saw was a young
Speaker 4: man who was very entrepreneurial. M because you were like
Speaker 4: and correct me if I'm wrong. You were like, yeah,
Speaker 4: because I hooked up with the Hallmark people and I'm
Speaker 4: we're Hallmarked people. He like, you know the ones do
Speaker 4: the cards? I said, how do you know the Harrormark
Speaker 4: people here? Like, well, in Kansas City, they are you know,
Speaker 4: like the richest families in Kansas It's like the Hallmarks.
Speaker 4: And you know me taking, I'm like, oh, business, business, business,
Speaker 4: I'm just hearing, I'm like, Okay, I like where this
Speaker 4: young dude is going? And then what he I'm like,
Speaker 4: who thinks to do a jazz project with the people
Speaker 4: from Harrormark because they can obviously press it up for you.
Speaker 3: Gifts?
Speaker 2: And he started talking about all that, and at this point.
Speaker 3: You might have been what nineteen, Yeah, yeah, I just
Speaker 3: I turned twenty that summer, and I'm.
Speaker 4: Like, Yo, this is a this is a young dude
Speaker 4: who not only is he super talented, but he always
Speaker 4: he already has his mind on his business and where
Speaker 4: he wants to take his career. Because it's because even
Speaker 4: the stuff he started today, I didn't know that, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like you was saying when he
Speaker 4: was eight and he trying to figure out about gigging it. Man,
Speaker 4: But it all makes sense now, you know, twenty years later.
Speaker 4: Was to have this conversation here and me be like, oh,
Speaker 4: that's exactly what man, That's exactly what this guy was.
Speaker 2: Back then.
Speaker 3: And that's how it was surviving in LA because I
Speaker 3: saw a thousand sees for ten dollars and that's how
Speaker 3: I was able to bust to move. And then I
Speaker 3: made a whole Christmas album at your spy. I was like,
Speaker 3: I'm here, he gotta try. You had a Triton in
Speaker 3: one of those rooms, and I was like, I'm working
Speaker 3: on the jazz project. Started making. Man, how much you
Speaker 3: make off down I think it was a negative. It
Speaker 3: was a negative about.
Speaker 4: I don't know if I don't know, I don't know
Speaker 4: if you guys are watching. But he got his pumption,
Speaker 4: got he got his first place. Yeah, he would have
Speaker 4: never messed her even though he thought he met her.
Speaker 3: Jazz residency. Uh, I'll come back right now.
Speaker 2: The money, the money start, you know my mind.
Speaker 4: But watching watching you know, just your maturation in the business, bro,
Speaker 4: and like how you were going about your career was
Speaker 4: always and also something that I just always admired about you,
Speaker 4: just seeing because we and Tank can tell you, we
Speaker 4: see so many talented people that I don't really know
Speaker 4: where they're going though. That's they jump on that hamster
Speaker 4: wheel Man and it's tough man, and it's like and
Speaker 4: and I and I have empathy sometimes for that. You know,
Speaker 4: Tank has more than I because I'm just like, Bro,
Speaker 4: you just at some point your land's got to get
Speaker 4: tired of running in the same place. But but to
Speaker 4: see you and to see that you had a clear
Speaker 4: view of like, Okay, I'm trying to do this to
Speaker 4: get to this, to get to that was really cool
Speaker 4: because I just seen so many talented people, bro, and
Speaker 4: it was just it was just it would hurt. It
Speaker 4: would hurt to watch it sometimes, like damn, Bro, like nigga,
Speaker 4: you still, yeah, I ain't figured this shit out.
Speaker 3: I'm at that place.
Speaker 4: You still ain't hit the pivot, because that's the other
Speaker 4: thing in this business. You gotta be at a pivot.
Speaker 4: It may not just be a record deal, like people
Speaker 4: literally get caught on one a deal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's real. You taught me. In fact, you told
Speaker 3: me that. Two things you told me that switched the
Speaker 3: game for me. One time you were like a man
Speaker 3: play the piano, Like you can't play the piano. I
Speaker 3: was like, what this dude to tell me? Like he's like, no, simplified.
Speaker 3: You did a lot of work with me, bro, like
Speaker 3: I know you added it up sore, but he was like, yo,
Speaker 3: just simplified and don't put too much energy on it.
Speaker 3: And then you said something else, and I remember it
Speaker 3: was probably like a can City placement or something. I
Speaker 3: was like, this is the song something something he was like, hey, man,
Speaker 3: don't fall in love with one song. I was like,
Speaker 3: what do you mean. He's like, just don't. It's many
Speaker 3: more songs. Youre gonna have some songs that go left
Speaker 3: to go right. But just that day, I'll just keep
Speaker 3: it moving all right, next next that triggered something. Whatever
Speaker 3: you said trigger that moment.
Speaker 4: But now I've only fallen in love with one song
Speaker 4: and I bring it up all the time on this
Speaker 4: podcast because it didn't make his album.
Speaker 2: That's my one song I fell in love like it's
Speaker 2: for real, you know, it's crazy.
Speaker 4: My my young partner, djb Easy hit me and he
Speaker 4: and he just randomly sent me a text and he said, Jay,
Speaker 4: what's your favorite song you've ever written? And I hadn't
Speaker 4: even thought about that in years. And the first thing
Speaker 4: popped in my head was Injured Reserve right, And he
Speaker 4: was like, where's the record? I said it's probably on
Speaker 4: the internet somewhere, and he found it and he hit
Speaker 4: me back like, Nigga, this song is incredible.
Speaker 2: But I was like, yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Think it's from when your ship got Everything got You
Speaker 4: still got your version, Eric, my Eric Dowkers might have
Speaker 4: somebody has my version somewhere. But I say that to
Speaker 4: say like that was the only record for me out
Speaker 4: of all the music that I've written that really was
Speaker 4: just like I really like, I really love love this.
Speaker 4: And the song never went anywhere, damn partially because of
Speaker 4: him because he held on to it for two damn long.
Speaker 4: But that's whatever, no it, But I had to learn
Speaker 4: that lesson early, like, as great as I think it is,
Speaker 4: as great as multiple people think it is, it may
Speaker 4: never come out.
Speaker 3: That's literally the energy in the conversation. And I was like, Huh,
Speaker 3: how do I prepare myself for this? It's not easy, No,
Speaker 3: not at all. But that's when I started switching gears.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna start doing different genres. I've always did different genres,
Speaker 3: and along the way of all the success that I
Speaker 3: was having, it was going up.
Speaker 2: So let's talk about the success. Though.
Speaker 3: We're not gonna we're not gonna brush over that, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, because absolutely your story is extremely
Speaker 3: important and and we're going to continue to go into that.
Speaker 2: We also got to give them the bars.
Speaker 3: Tocha'll let you flex? Okay, you know, after you get
Speaker 3: your first placement, do you do your publishing deal right?
Speaker 3: After that or do you wait it's it's already emotion.
Speaker 2: It's emotion.
Speaker 3: Yeah. OK, so I do my first one with the
Speaker 3: with the scope of that being the cut, not not
Speaker 3: not predicting was around the corner and I was in
Speaker 3: motion to do a said production deal with someone and
Speaker 3: I was like, I don't know, I kind of want
Speaker 3: to take my own route.
Speaker 2: And it was like, man, so a bigger producer offered
Speaker 2: you an opportunity.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had. I had a fortunate to have a
Speaker 3: couple opportunities from different producers or not. And I was like,
Speaker 3: you know what, I'm just gonna just have a choice
Speaker 3: I have to make. Either I'm gonna do it, I'm
Speaker 3: not gonna do it. And I was like, I just
Speaker 3: wanna just wait a little bit longer, even though I
Speaker 3: felt it was necessary to have someone bigger to help opportunities.
Speaker 3: But that song came out, so I was like, let's
Speaker 3: just see what happens. And I remember that day that
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm not gonna do this particular deal.
Speaker 3: I was like, man, something else gotta give. And I
Speaker 3: was like, I'm gonna turn this up a little bit.
Speaker 3: And and me and Te Whiz were still working we're
Speaker 3: still building and have a pub deal. So I was like,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do I'm gonna'm gonna be on some Kansas
Speaker 3: city ship. I was like, I'm gonna get apartment way
Speaker 3: out somewhere. I moved out to, like Valencia or something.
Speaker 3: I just got in the corn Agor's rope. It was
Speaker 3: like for lost, like five five. I was like, what
Speaker 3: is this is a little quiet area. I said, I'm
Speaker 3: I'm a little live over here. I'm gonna just duck
Speaker 3: off and just build and create. And and I remember
Speaker 3: at the time, I'm still working with Polo Chris Dre
Speaker 3: married Rabbe and so I'm going back to the student
Speaker 3: I think it was there was a record plant and
Speaker 3: now I'm from Valencia. From Valencia. Now, I keep in
Speaker 3: mind there's an underlying health issue that I'm dealing with
Speaker 3: that I don't know i'm dealing with yet, and so
Speaker 3: I'm tired, I'm frustrated. I'm like, yo, man, work in
Speaker 3: the studio late takes a toll because I'm thinking, like
Speaker 3: I'm young, so I don't there's definitely nothing wrong with
Speaker 3: my health. And so I was always like sleeping or
Speaker 3: I fall sleep in the studio or I'm like, people like, yo, BK,
Speaker 3: that's not normal, bro, you shouldn't be I'm like, I'm
Speaker 3: just tired, y'all taking too long type of thing. Yeah,
Speaker 3: y'all need to hurry up. You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: In my mind, I'm like, I could have done this
Speaker 3: a long time ago. But I but that's also not egotistical.
Speaker 3: But it's a very I've done this for so I've
Speaker 3: been making music for I've been writing songs at five
Speaker 3: or six years old. So I understand so many different variations.
Speaker 3: Not from a standpoint of like I'm a consumer. I
Speaker 3: like to observe, but I also understanding this stuff, like
Speaker 3: like left and right, and so I fall asleep on
Speaker 3: her Rihanna was in the studio. I was like, what
Speaker 3: how did I miss? Ranna? Like, I'm telling you why
Speaker 3: you're sleep sleeping? Yeah, next to the games.
Speaker 2: Don't fall asleep in the studio.
Speaker 3: Don't fall sleep in studio. I'm just sitting next to
Speaker 3: the games and the record playing. I wake up and
Speaker 3: he's like, you missed it. I was like, I never
Speaker 3: missed another session. I'm gonna stay up. And sure enough,
Speaker 3: the next day she put up. I meet her right,
Speaker 3: I'm in the studio at this point working with Chris
Speaker 3: a little bit, and I'm like, she's sitting over there
Speaker 3: because we always been on her own just she just
Speaker 3: cares her own energy. And I was like, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: go talk to her. I'm just gonna just to walk
Speaker 3: up to her and like, hey, do I know you?
Speaker 3: Nice to meet you. I thought I knew her. I
Speaker 3: knew I knew her somewhere you'd be like, man, just pleasure.
Speaker 3: And then I just like I heard you looking for
Speaker 3: a new sound where I was like, oh, here you go.
Speaker 3: Did you randomly say to it he's looking for a
Speaker 3: new sound because he was working on a single reloaded
Speaker 3: single for her project. And I was like, yeah, I
Speaker 3: got I got a sound for you. And uh. I
Speaker 3: was like I took her phone out of her hand, bro,
Speaker 3: and it's like I'm just put my number on your
Speaker 3: phone and just here and she's looking at me like okay,
Speaker 3: and that just and and now my mind, I'm like
Speaker 3: this is mortifying, bro, I'm embarrassing myself. This is crazy.
Speaker 3: It's like, who the hell is this dude? So I
Speaker 3: give her back her phone. It was like it just
Speaker 3: just hit me anytime or and we little blother to
Speaker 3: Chris Brown looking studio, looking at the speakers and stuff,
Speaker 3: looking crazy as hell, man, and I was like, I'm
Speaker 3: about to head out, uh and just playing my life
Speaker 3: and that Chris is like, yeoh, play the keys before
Speaker 3: you leave free. I want you to. I want you
Speaker 3: to play for I said, oh yeah, you won't play
Speaker 3: field for her? Okay, So I got it.
Speaker 8: The motive, boy, I said this been I woulda play
Speaker 8: for my life, you know, a five heartbeats when the
Speaker 8: dude is running.
Speaker 3: This is it, I said, I'm leading, this is it.
Speaker 3: This is because every moment that I ever, I always
Speaker 3: knew had the ability to understand that this is not
Speaker 3: a normal moment. But I have to normalize this moment
Speaker 3: at the same time, which is a hard thing to
Speaker 3: do because it's like all of it or nothing at
Speaker 3: the same time. So I was like, okay, start playing,
Speaker 3: start playing. You can just see her demeanor. She's like, Okay, nope,
Speaker 3: sorry man, catch all later. I got to email that night, bro,
Speaker 3: She's like, I love your energy, your spirit, your music
Speaker 3: is incredible. Bring me what you got. February fourteen, two
Speaker 3: thousand and seven, dog, I got up six am and
Speaker 3: made the track to disturb you like that. And I
Speaker 3: was like, this is it. I got my mom in
Speaker 3: the car, I have my little shoe, just me on
Speaker 3: the track, just undred percent, not trying, but logic at
Speaker 3: this logic because you know I went to the training. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I went to the training. Was then on logic and
Speaker 3: I made my parents get up. I was like, yo,
Speaker 3: I made this beat for Rihanna hopping the car with me.
Speaker 3: We're gonna just ride around and Valencia and just I
Speaker 3: was like, this is gonna be here. I just I
Speaker 3: was like, this is it. This is the big day've
Speaker 3: been waiting for. Get to the studio. Later that day,
Speaker 3: walking in the studio, there's another producer there. He was like,
Speaker 3: what you doing here? I was like, I'm just I
Speaker 3: got a session. You know, you know some ree I
Speaker 3: got this track. He was like, let me hear the track.
Speaker 3: Play the track. He was like trash. He was like,
Speaker 3: what is this? I was like, okay, ship now what
Speaker 3: so I'll walk out. I'm walking down the hall, Dre mayor,
Speaker 3: Chris Robe. They all walking in and Chris is like, oh,
Speaker 3: that's a CD. It's a demo. Just to get out
Speaker 3: my hand. I said, all right, I'll be back later.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go. I got to do this downtime day thing.
Speaker 3: We want to see the color purple my mom and stuff.
Speaker 2: And I was like, and the one Nigga already made
Speaker 2: you feel like your track might.
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, today, well today I knew that
Speaker 3: life would change in my mind. I'm dramatic like that.
Speaker 3: And then uh so I'm leaving. I'm like, all right, whatever, dude,
Speaker 3: So I'll drive home. Let me do the color purple
Speaker 3: thing and Chris, hey, come back. She's loving this song.
Speaker 3: She's loving it like we got an idea for it
Speaker 3: and we can make the studio that dun dun Dune
Speaker 3: started playing it. Dra got on it. Chris started writing
Speaker 3: to it and she's like, Yo, this is my single.
Speaker 3: And I was like, what would you just say? I
Speaker 3: was like I was like, keep it cool, keep it cool,
Speaker 3: and she hit me and no. Jay Brown called me
Speaker 3: like two days later. It was like, yeah, I'm Jay Brown.
Speaker 3: I was like I heard about you, man, like I
Speaker 3: know you. Jay Brown to calling me, I was like,
Speaker 3: he's how much your church your tracks? I was like
Speaker 3: twenty thousand. He was like, hey man, that's expensive. I'm
Speaker 3: like no, just like yo, check yourself. Bro was like,
Speaker 3: well you asked me. I answer. He said, look, man,
Speaker 3: res paying for this out of her pocket. What can
Speaker 3: we do? Twelve? She wrote a check for twelve thousand.
Speaker 3: She's like, look, my budgets depleted because she did all
Speaker 3: these other tracks. But she a and north that herself.
Speaker 3: She said, I'll give you twelve, and you and they
Speaker 3: come back publishing that song.
Speaker 2: Dude, that's a lot more than a little fifteen too.
Speaker 3: That ship skyrocket is so fast, but no, not fast.
Speaker 3: Six months seven months later, sorry, and then forever right
Speaker 3: because I tapped in with Polo on Fever on the
Speaker 3: Chris Brown record, and so that's already going up in
Speaker 3: a sense, and I remember it. Sorry just to continue
Speaker 3: that that day I wasn't feel one hundred percent, but anyway,
Speaker 3: knocked that track out. So all right, here we go.
Speaker 3: There's a Chris Brown single, cls come out, and there's
Speaker 3: a Rihanna single coming out. But it goes quiet, Like
Speaker 3: you said, it's like, what will it not happen? Is happening?
Speaker 3: I go to Kansas City. My brother Kevin is my
Speaker 3: number one A and R to this day. He's here.
Speaker 3: Now I'm like, we've got to LACU shit about to
Speaker 3: go crazy now. And he was like, uh, plenty of demos.
Speaker 3: Bro let me hear what you got A planned to
Speaker 3: start played disturb the demo. He was like, oh, this
Speaker 3: is gonna go. This is your biggest hit. I was like, man,
Speaker 3: I ain't heard from him or nothing. He was like, man,
Speaker 3: this is your had Jay Brown called me that same night.
Speaker 3: Where are you at? I mean, can't sity that needs
Speaker 3: you in Denver tomorrow? We couldn't disturb you do? Went
Speaker 3: to this this Denver did the Glowing a Dark Tour.
Speaker 3: Watch it. Rihanna got a studio cut that mup. That
Speaker 3: shit came out. It's guy Rack at number one, number two.
Speaker 3: The phone call started happening, and I was like, let's
Speaker 3: go all the phone calls.
Speaker 2: I called you? You remember that?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I remember? No.
Speaker 4: So I called him and it was funny because I
Speaker 4: could tell the phone calls were coming, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean? I could tell, and it was it all was.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 4: It was also funny to me because and you can
Speaker 4: tell me if this is true or not. I think
Speaker 4: at first he thought I was calling him on some
Speaker 4: you owe me that's crazy and I wasn't. And I
Speaker 4: literally was calling him just to tell him how proud
Speaker 4: I was.
Speaker 3: I remember that day. I was at the boomer room.
Speaker 3: You had number one and number two hot one hundred
Speaker 3: at the same time. I remember that day and I
Speaker 3: called him and I could tell on the phone he like,
Speaker 3: is this niggabout depressed me? Right? I was like, hold
Speaker 3: on them, this calculated real quick? How does this work?
Speaker 2: And I really just wanted to tell them congratulations.
Speaker 3: I remember that there.
Speaker 2: I remember it's because you having that and I've never
Speaker 2: had a high one hundred number one. You having that,
Speaker 2: I felt like was me having that with you no.
Speaker 3: Money. I was just like, this is the same kid
Speaker 3: broke in to your house and Blader broke into my house.
Speaker 2: And played the piano.
Speaker 4: They got the number one and two songs in the
Speaker 4: world at the same damn time. That was nigga, congratulations,
Speaker 4: thank you.
Speaker 3: That was crazy. I remember it, dude. Like I went
Speaker 3: to like call my count and I was like, so,
Speaker 3: what's this. What's this supposed to mean? Because I heard
Speaker 3: about this, I heard, so now what and then my
Speaker 3: deals I'm leave my deal now, Like so I'm literally
Speaker 3: went to Cobalt did an admin situation and I was
Speaker 3: like okay, we we all the way and that I
Speaker 3: started doing collor parks. Now keep in mind, just to
Speaker 3: be fully honest about it, I was just started and
Speaker 3: this is now at this point, like now my headaches
Speaker 3: are coming in and you probably don't remember. I remind
Speaker 3: you something too. But I started getting these migraines and
Speaker 3: they started getting a little like damn. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 3: I gotta see what's going on. I thought my wisdom
Speaker 3: teeth needed to be pulled, so into the dentist and
Speaker 3: they brought a blood pass machine out and it was
Speaker 3: like I just put on you. It was like two
Speaker 3: sixty over, like it was just crazy. He was like,
Speaker 3: the machine's broken. Machine here.
Speaker 2: They told the machine was broke.
Speaker 3: It's broke. They say, it's the defect. To get another
Speaker 3: one in here. They brought another machine in there. The
Speaker 3: dude looked at it because at me. He said, I'll
Speaker 3: be right back. He came back with a nurse. This
Speaker 3: is the dentist's office. They was like, look, we're gonna
Speaker 3: write you a letter and we need you to leave
Speaker 3: here and go to the mergency room right now. I
Speaker 3: was like, what's happening. He's like your blood pressure you
Speaker 3: should go to the mercery room now and told my sister.
Speaker 3: At the time, I had like an assistant. I started
Speaker 3: doing something that had somebody took me to. He's like,
Speaker 3: get him to the hospital right now. So first I
Speaker 3: didn't take it serious. I'm like, I'm cool, I just
Speaker 3: go later. Come my mom. She's like, man, if you
Speaker 3: don't get to the hospital right now. So I went
Speaker 3: gave them my letter. Like two or three doctors came in,
Speaker 3: came out from the back immediately and was like, we
Speaker 3: gotta drop your blood pressure. We gotta sorry my back,
Speaker 3: he said, we gotta drop your blood pressure. We gotta
Speaker 3: mit you. You're pretty much a walking struck right now.
Speaker 3: While they're doing this, like can you see can you literally?
Speaker 3: Like are you alive? How are you?
Speaker 2: Like they was how you functioning?
Speaker 3: How are you functioning? What is what's what's what's going
Speaker 3: on with the have not taken your meds? All these
Speaker 3: different things like when I'm mad or nothing. I was like,
Speaker 3: I'm straight. And they put the ivy drip and they
Speaker 3: dropped my blood pressure and I was looking at my
Speaker 3: text messages and the words fell off. So I was
Speaker 3: going like a little mini stroke episode and I was like, yo,
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't feel good at all, and so
Speaker 3: my dad, you know, next time, my mom and Dady
Speaker 3: flew up. But before and then the doctor that I
Speaker 3: was working with a first was harassing me like why
Speaker 3: are you here, like while you're at this hospital, like
Speaker 3: you're just talking like Google, you might have this, you might.
Speaker 3: I mean literally, I was like, dude, this is kind
Speaker 3: of hostile. But at the time I didn't know what
Speaker 3: it was. You know, my dad came the next day
Speaker 3: and he's like, we gotta do a bop see because
Speaker 3: something's up. And so we did a BOBC Monday and
Speaker 3: I tested. It was a reno kidney failure. FSGS is
Speaker 3: the most rare and effective and dangerous kidney disease, one
Speaker 3: of them ten percent function.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 3: Literally, they was like, yeah, you gotta switch to gears
Speaker 3: right now. We're gonna get Yournallasis. We're gonna do this.
Speaker 3: We're gonna do that. I'm sitting back like, no, you know,
Speaker 3: I got a session in a couple of weeks. In
Speaker 3: my mind, I'm like yeah, in my mind, I'm like no,
Speaker 3: I didn't come this. I'm like, hold on, is this
Speaker 3: so this is the price of success? Like I have
Speaker 3: to is this really what comes with it? And I
Speaker 3: was like I manifested everything, but who I wanted to
Speaker 3: be when it happened. And my dad alway said, they said,
Speaker 3: don't worry about making it, worry about who you are
Speaker 3: when you do make it. And I neglected that. I thought,
Speaker 3: you know, the industry is like you gotta come studio late,
Speaker 3: pull up, you know, just you know, like eating what
Speaker 3: you want to eat. You guys had a good regimen.
Speaker 3: Throw Jay always been cool. Man, He's already been chilled.
Speaker 3: Like he was like, you never I feel like you
Speaker 3: never let this shit affect you in the same man,
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure you probably went your thing. But I
Speaker 3: always when we had a conversation, it was definitely necessary
Speaker 3: because that's when I was going through a manic episode.
Speaker 3: So when you called me, he was talking to me.
Speaker 3: I was not even I was kind of like, dude,
Speaker 3: you know some money or I probably had a hospital point. Man.
Speaker 3: I was feeling jittery from the steroids and like all
Speaker 3: these different medications they put me on, and so now
Speaker 3: I'm like a zombie kinda. So I started putting the
Speaker 3: mask on and be like, all right, I'm gonna still
Speaker 3: kill it. And so I have my doctor's appointments every
Speaker 3: other week. I had my session, so I just scheduled
Speaker 3: my session, so Hits Hospital, Grammys Hospital, blah blah blah hospital.
Speaker 3: And then I just got really depressed and I started
Speaker 3: feeling like I don't feel nothing like my whole life
Speaker 3: I did this, I don't feel I feel nothing. How's
Speaker 3: that impossible? You know? I'm getting calls. Kelly Clarkson was
Speaker 3: working on the Pink Monster media and all these things
Speaker 3: I ever I thought was supposed to be was supposed
Speaker 3: to be, didn't feel like nothing to me. I said,
Speaker 3: I'm moved to Nashville. I'm out. I'm gonna go to Nashville,
Speaker 3: get a little place still to go, stay in the
Speaker 3: TP or stay somewhere off in the cut and just
Speaker 3: a TP something get away from the ship. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: go to Nashville, get a TP and just dump off.
Speaker 1: Yea.
Speaker 3: I was like a TV, like just a place to
Speaker 3: get away.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So to me, I was like a TP on an
Speaker 3: acreage and it still does music. I'm about to kan City,
Speaker 3: but I don't want to go back. They'd loved it
Speaker 3: too much. They've been like he's back he's back. I'm like,
Speaker 3: how many years I gotta do to make people know
Speaker 3: that I'm for real? And then and then also I've
Speaker 3: been top lining I'll be keeping it cool man, because
Speaker 3: I just you know, I was raised to be modest
Speaker 3: and be humble. But I be like, y'all don't have
Speaker 3: no niggas, don't know like what this is for me
Speaker 3: and what I understand it to be. And so that
Speaker 3: I moved to Nashville years ago, and the Ryane was
Speaker 3: on that too. Uh So I like the new Nashville Surgeons.
Speaker 3: But I'm like I kind of helped get that started,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. I was working the Dan
Speaker 3: Hut th Rascal Flats Canty Chesney.
Speaker 2: That's just the one name you would always say, can
Speaker 2: no Rascal Flats.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was at that time when you first talking
Speaker 3: about you like, man, change it Rascal Flats. I'm like, yo, okay.
Speaker 3: I told this guy, I said, I'm coming in. I'm Nashville.
Speaker 3: He's like, you're a writer.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 3: They got these big records. And I remember at this
Speaker 3: I was at this function where I was playing the
Speaker 3: piano and universal function, and these two guys came up
Speaker 3: to me. It was Pat Hayden and Can't Rolls. I
Speaker 3: was like, hey, man, you you do country music. I said, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I do country music. He was like, when you come
Speaker 3: out to Nashville, look us up. Man. I was there,
Speaker 3: had about about a guitar and everything. I put the
Speaker 3: hat on. I'm cool on that. Like's yeah, I figured
Speaker 3: out all the way. I said, on the way four chords.
Speaker 3: I'm like. I was like, here we go. I'm here,
Speaker 3: I'm there. Four chords. All the country hits this, four chords.
Speaker 3: They say the boards, get to the chorus. I'm like, cool,
Speaker 3: let's go. So I started imitating bors get to the chorus.
Speaker 3: I started emulating songs. I started playing and singing and
Speaker 3: I would joke, but they would be like, that's really good.
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, you're thinking so. And I said,
Speaker 3: you know what, I'm here to do pop music with y'all. Yeah.
Speaker 3: How many people here want to do pop music? It
Speaker 3: was like we my daughter love I work Rihanna. You
Speaker 3: know they got they got. They're not about the money,
Speaker 3: it's just you know, you just have a good time working.
Speaker 3: Rhianna and Chris Brown and Christopher out to be You're
Speaker 3: amazing to work with. Him. So I started working on
Speaker 3: pop songs with them and give them their community, like
Speaker 3: you know, collaborations. And I was like, and they was like,
Speaker 3: we should do country music. I'm like, you don't. I
Speaker 3: don't care. I'm like, y'all, don't don't let me do
Speaker 3: this because I'll do it for real. And so started
Speaker 3: doing it. Rescual Flats girl named Maggie Rose got on
Speaker 3: her project Kelly Clarkson did Mister Notales, hitting both genres
Speaker 3: pop in country. And then at the time, my health
Speaker 3: started getting worse. So I'm now I'm in Nashville, got
Speaker 3: a whole new life. And then I just like, I'm done.
Speaker 3: I can handle the pressure of trying to maintain that
Speaker 3: energy and have a headache. And I started thinking about suicide.
Speaker 3: I was like, I was half I found a new thing,
Speaker 3: and then that ain't complete it. I'm like, yo, what
Speaker 3: is this? Why can't I get around this thing? And
Speaker 3: I just was avoiding it. Man, I was just not
Speaker 3: paying attention to the rules. And it's not like for
Speaker 3: you know, I was drinking. I was somemore gonna do anything,
Speaker 3: taking away as girl I was. I thought I was
Speaker 3: being a good samaritan.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm gonna just be here. I'm like,
Speaker 3: so God, I'm I'm confused about while I'm in this
Speaker 3: space and you put me and get me to talent
Speaker 3: and uh And it was until lifegu life moved on
Speaker 3: and I met the person home with now you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. And I was almost seeming like seeing
Speaker 3: through a people. You see energies and people. And Jay's
Speaker 3: always been a constant and every time I saw you tanking. Actually,
Speaker 3: after I got out the hospital, I saw y'all I
Speaker 3: think a rock Nation Frinch or something and I was
Speaker 3: skinny of it whatever, and You was like, we need
Speaker 3: you to hear me. We need to hear bro you're good.
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, it was y'all together. He was like,
Speaker 3: we need you hear Come on, man. I was like, thank,
Speaker 3: appreciate it. But I was fresh at the hospital. That's
Speaker 3: that's when I seen you. It was brief. But you
Speaker 3: always make sure y'all tap One thing about y'all is
Speaker 3: like brothers, y'all make sure y'all tap in, and that
Speaker 3: don't it's not happened like that. And I use that
Speaker 3: now when I meet. When I have I measured someone's energy,
Speaker 3: I try to be intentional and be present about it,
Speaker 3: because I was all the other shit man, people turn
Speaker 3: up studios all that, that's cool, But it's like RO,
Speaker 3: It's deeper than that, man, because once you understand the
Speaker 3: deconstruction of life itself, and from my experience, it's like
Speaker 3: none of this really matters other than like Western Mission.
Speaker 3: And then I remember thinking to myself like, man, I
Speaker 3: got hits by needs of heal, and so what does
Speaker 3: that look like. I was like, I want to go
Speaker 3: from making hits to healing. Didn't make a hits and
Speaker 3: so I created a nonro profit called Hits Dealing, where
Speaker 3: we reach, we teach, we connect the medical with the community,
Speaker 3: pharmaceutical with the foundation because there's a whole bunch of
Speaker 3: misconceptions about how communication works within the space of medical
Speaker 3: in our community. Because they all hit me up after
Speaker 3: my surgery and was like, we would love for you
Speaker 3: to be the frontman to this or to that, and
Speaker 3: I was like, I don't think I'm capable of doing
Speaker 3: that if I don't have the information. So I posted
Speaker 3: my story online and the comments were going up and
Speaker 3: people would hit me up and I was getting messages
Speaker 3: like yo, I have kidney failure. But what would you
Speaker 3: suggest for clinical I was like, WHOA, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I just shared my story and I was like, Okay,
Speaker 3: if I'm gonna do this, I gotta educate myself. So
Speaker 3: I quit how quit music again? I quit music like
Speaker 3: four times. By the way, I was still doing it
Speaker 3: for fun, Like I quit again. This is it, this
Speaker 3: is the moment. Everybody's quitting again. I'm like, he's gonna quit.
Speaker 3: New Revolution, the Revelation and I started teaming up with
Speaker 3: the National Kidney Foundation recently and then neft KRE Kidney Foundation,
Speaker 3: Northwest Kidney Center, America Art Association. I started looking at
Speaker 3: their you know, their their messaging and it was similar
Speaker 3: to my messaging, but they had the power and the
Speaker 3: understanding and the connections. And so I started working with
Speaker 3: them closely. And how did you even get to them?
Speaker 3: Were no check this out? I was on a high
Speaker 3: profile list and like it on my transplant, but I
Speaker 3: didn't know about that. And so a pharmaceutical company reached
Speaker 3: out to me. So what does that mean? That means
Speaker 3: that they they h they just put you at a
Speaker 3: certain tier, right, didn't know that. I was like, this
Speaker 3: is wild, Like you know who you were I went
Speaker 3: too some system whereas like he is, this is accomplished. Yeah,
Speaker 3: because they need it. They need that, they need because
Speaker 3: they for their funding, their collaborations. But with the truth
Speaker 3: be told, man, it's a lot of people want to help.
Speaker 3: They want to build. I don't know how. I don't
Speaker 3: know how and don't know. And I went in a
Speaker 3: couple of It was one particular organization that I didn't
Speaker 3: like I was working with, and the messaging was just
Speaker 3: I was like, hold on, I read an article and
Speaker 3: I was like, first of all, yall, y'all crop somebody
Speaker 3: else's dusty hands on the piano keyboards like Brian. I
Speaker 3: was like yes, man. I was like, yo, man, I've
Speaker 3: taken my hand. It's my hands, like you got to
Speaker 3: like you. I can just give you a picture playing
Speaker 3: the piano. And it was like hypertension comes from blah
Speaker 3: blah blah smoking and it was just too close. My
Speaker 3: face was too close to let all the drugs and
Speaker 3: all the things. I was like, yeah, that that's not why.
Speaker 3: And so I had to call them and within like
Speaker 3: an hour, I was on the phone with the whole
Speaker 3: entire in it from this this division, that division, and
Speaker 3: I was just telling them like I think it's a
Speaker 3: lot of tone death energy going on, and it's like,
Speaker 3: what do you mean? It was like, you're not communicating
Speaker 3: with the community. I can tell when these commercials come
Speaker 3: on that they're commercials. I can tell when there's no
Speaker 3: content build around health equity. What'd you do? I said,
Speaker 3: this is what I do. I started a media company
Speaker 3: and I started telling my own stories scoring It's doctor
Speaker 3: it up, man, I do want to do my shows.
Speaker 3: I play it before and people were just like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, it's human. It's the human experience. And that's
Speaker 3: what I've been up to, man, Like I mean, I'm
Speaker 3: still making hits, but my attention behind it. It's hits
Speaker 3: and using music as a activation to get people interested,
Speaker 3: but really tell my story and help other people tell theirs.
Speaker 3: And also, we ain't got to kill ourselves for music,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like we know this already,
Speaker 3: but not everything comes from pain, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 3: there's happy moments that we can take and utilize. And
Speaker 3: so I've been scoring movies and stuff and building in out.
Speaker 3: But I've been tied to some in my first sorry,
Speaker 3: my first grant was come from the Giant Rocket Feller
Speaker 3: front too, and I got to my homiead On. He
Speaker 3: was just like, yo, like I'm loving what's going on.
Speaker 3: Have our conversations and there's a lot of people who
Speaker 3: want to help, and I'm like, cool, let's go. And
Speaker 3: so now that I have that going on and music
Speaker 3: and then also ip in between, so I'm trying to
Speaker 3: understand back to the business. I'm back in my business.
Speaker 3: Shit but crazy now because I'm understanding, like I want
Speaker 3: to build, reach, teach, connect medical centers, and help us
Speaker 3: as a community understand that it's preventive health care. We
Speaker 3: got a genetic test. We got to know, like just
Speaker 3: like we know stats. We got to know our health
Speaker 3: and that's important. So for me, you know, I slip
Speaker 3: up sometimes and just like don't be on it like
Speaker 3: I should. But I check my blood, pursure, I drink
Speaker 3: my water, get my sleep. I check in, you know,
Speaker 3: and I make sure I'm on the up and up.
Speaker 3: But for the most part, man, this is the new
Speaker 3: chapter for me. It's not like the it's not like
Speaker 3: the big conversation in our community. Just getting checked.
Speaker 6: Yeah, like.
Speaker 1: Like to know where you I mean, I went through
Speaker 1: a similar thing where I felt. I thought I felt amazing.
Speaker 1: I felt amazing, I looked I looked great. But that
Speaker 1: blood work, dude says something totally when I say different.
Speaker 3: They was asking me. I was like, so, are you
Speaker 3: depressed like you? I was like, are you having problems here?
Speaker 9: No?
Speaker 1: I was like, I work out twice a day, I
Speaker 1: perform on weekends. I was like, They're like, how are
Speaker 1: you doing this? I was like, I don't know. Am
Speaker 1: I not supposed to? And they started reading off the
Speaker 1: charts and I was like, no, you are not.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: And if we don't, we don't. We don't know how
Speaker 1: long whatever you own or whatever it is, is going
Speaker 1: to last. So we got to get you right from
Speaker 1: the inside.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: And that and this is this is this is me
Speaker 1: at forty something years old, just discovering that. Of course,
Speaker 1: you go get checked from your doctor and all of
Speaker 1: these things, but there's so many other answers and questions
Speaker 1: that you need to ask. That's it, because that's it
Speaker 1: they're gonna treat you for. They're gonna treat you for
Speaker 1: what's happening now.
Speaker 2: And such does this hurt?
Speaker 3: Yep?
Speaker 1: Cool, let me fix that. Let me give you something
Speaker 1: for that. But most of the time, they're not warning you. No,
Speaker 1: the things around the corner prevented it.
Speaker 3: Because now because you gotta realize it's like for some
Speaker 3: it's smart as clienteles. It was like come on back,
Speaker 3: come on, come back, you know, and it's like experiencing
Speaker 3: that as wild because I never did diallass. I turned
Speaker 3: it down. I was like, you didn't do it, you
Speaker 3: never did. I was like, I'm good, I'm so glad
Speaker 3: you did. I was just like, and I would you know,
Speaker 3: I will always say, do your research, talk to your doctor. No,
Speaker 3: I'm not going to work for you what works for you.
Speaker 3: And for me, I was like, man, what I'm not
Speaker 3: about to do is take my travel restrictions away. I
Speaker 3: didn't came up here and did all this stuff.
Speaker 1: And you have to decide in your mind how hard
Speaker 1: you're going to fight to not have to go on diallasas. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's a different fight, Yep, that's a different clean up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: one hundred percent. And that's that's literally what I was
Speaker 1: doing with and then I'll go back. I was in
Speaker 1: and out of like binging, like in out burders. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't care no one like then, But I was
Speaker 1: like you know, water workout.
Speaker 3: I had had a got hired a chef, and then
Speaker 3: I started had a trainer, and I was doing all
Speaker 3: everything I thought I was supposed to do. But I
Speaker 3: was like, I'm not doing it. He's like, there's there's
Speaker 3: ones you can take in your house and look, I'm
Speaker 3: like this not sexy to me. I'm like, I'm not
Speaker 3: doing this. And maybe it was a moment of where
Speaker 3: I was like, I don't want to inconvenience of having
Speaker 3: to be somewhere else, Like if this, if I'm going out,
Speaker 3: I'm going out the way I always imagine doing music
Speaker 3: and being free. I didn't. I didn't come in here
Speaker 3: to like to be in a jail in a sense,
Speaker 3: but you know, some people don't have the choice, and
Speaker 3: so yeah, you know, so I still I still work
Speaker 3: with other organizations that's tied to Dallas's, but for me,
Speaker 3: I just want to go and accept it. I was
Speaker 3: like nah. And then it's almost like the therapist was like,
Speaker 3: but you are you depressed? Like he said, are you depressed?
Speaker 3: Like I'm like, nah, should I be? It's like, maybe
Speaker 3: you should be depressed because this is that. And then
Speaker 3: I just had my support system, my brother, and my
Speaker 3: sister Biggie Victor Charlie, all my parents stuff is like
Speaker 3: all right, cool, but I was still like, still feel
Speaker 3: isolated though, because they would never really know because no
Speaker 3: one is checking on you for your medications, like taking medications.
Speaker 3: So I said, it was a battle. It's and and
Speaker 3: it's and it's ongoing. My my transplant is a treatment,
Speaker 3: not an actual care. So I'm still say it again.
Speaker 3: The transplant is just a treatment, but it wasn't a cure.
Speaker 3: It's not a cure, not a care at all. So
Speaker 3: my brother is lifespan, but the fact that my brother
Speaker 3: was an identical match, it was crazy. And so I
Speaker 3: still to take care of it the same way I would,
Speaker 3: you know, any other thing. You know what what percentage
Speaker 3: is is I'm fully functioned now fully functioned. Yeah, he
Speaker 3: definitely gave me. I was like, good looking, thanks for
Speaker 3: that for sure.
Speaker 2: He was dancing with at the super Bowl.
Speaker 3: He's back, moving back, moving man, for real? I got
Speaker 3: was I was kidding dude? For sure? I started walking more.
Speaker 3: I was like king and I'm like, oh in So
Speaker 3: my thirties was way more and I feel better now
Speaker 3: than I ever felt my twenties. Wow, and that's when
Speaker 3: I and that's when I always felt like, it's your plan,
Speaker 3: and then there's the plan that guy already has for you.
Speaker 3: And then also it's like not trying to control too
Speaker 3: much because if I had in my mindset, if I
Speaker 3: never went through that because my mom was on the business,
Speaker 3: I was alridy about to flip half of the city.
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm gonna get this house. I mean,
Speaker 3: I was already on this whole monopoly thing. I was like,
Speaker 3: had this vision. But God was like, nah, that's not
Speaker 3: the vision I got, Bro, You're about to sit down.
Speaker 3: You're about to take it. And so it took away
Speaker 3: my ability to care about things that I thought I
Speaker 3: should have cared about. So it kind of slowed me
Speaker 3: down enough to realize that I had to go come
Speaker 3: back to the beginning. So this is actually living at
Speaker 3: the beginning again. However, hits were still being made, you know,
Speaker 3: things were still being going on the residuals, right, and
Speaker 3: so I was able to take that and utilize that
Speaker 3: and started focusing on the future. But uh yeah, straight up, man,
Speaker 3: that's I feel every day I'm alive. I'm like, it's
Speaker 3: a blessing, dude.
Speaker 4: So where is it that people that are maybe going
Speaker 4: through some of these certain things, where would you suggest
Speaker 4: that they look into, like what are some good organizations?
Speaker 3: For sure? Yeah, hitstealing dot org. That's what it is. Yeah,
Speaker 3: because what it is is well that and is anything
Speaker 3: that's related to their actual disease. Where are they going
Speaker 3: through there is an organization that's so if it's kidneys
Speaker 3: and it's like all these kidney organizations, if it's you know,
Speaker 3: heart's heart organizations, which is high pretension. But for sure,
Speaker 3: what we're doing and his stealing is just creating more
Speaker 3: accessible and relatable content and conversations. Because the problem with
Speaker 3: I always say doctors are like musicians, Like when musicians jam,
Speaker 3: they're doing it for each other and not the people.
Speaker 3: And doctors are talking to each other, not the people.
Speaker 3: And so for me as a even as a pianist,
Speaker 3: as that correlate. When I play, I want to pour
Speaker 3: into people. I don't care about esthetically, what you brought.
Speaker 2: What you up.
Speaker 3: I'm like, man, you're going somewhere, bro, it's cool. I
Speaker 3: just want to I want to make sure who, including
Speaker 3: the if we affected by it, then I did my job.
Speaker 3: My god, stel freaking enough to say it going. That's
Speaker 3: going down. Man, I've been writing, I've been like composing stuff.
Speaker 3: Everyone's I want to see the magic. I want to
Speaker 3: see it like you feel it. I can't see it,
Speaker 3: you gotta feel it. And by the time they realized
Speaker 3: it all right, like you know, so that's why I'm
Speaker 3: all right now and just doing the whole thing like that.
Speaker 3: Cut me in and cut it out. Started out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah you know my.
Speaker 3: Okay, I know y'all talking crazy going on. They cut
Speaker 3: me in, Okay, I better ja, I better have a song.
Speaker 2: He Jacob closed that door.
Speaker 3: Stopping there.
Speaker 2: We about to start singing this murder dance.
Speaker 5: We want to.
Speaker 3: Come on play that murder Man. Real about a demo
Speaker 3: here today? I was like, man, for two seconds and
Speaker 3: me get my laptop.
Speaker 7: I was like, is that where murder Man starts right there?
Speaker 7: Ye oh that's great, that's great. Yeah, yeah, they got
Speaker 7: the piano players in the bid.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Brian Kennedy, that is affluent that you are on this
Speaker 1: this thing. But I feel like you've you've played and
Speaker 1: heard a lot of music in your time. We've come
Speaker 1: to a place to where we all want to know
Speaker 1: your favorites. Man, we want to know the music that
Speaker 1: inspired you.
Speaker 3: Man. This section is a special section for us because
Speaker 3: I don't know where I'm going with them. But what
Speaker 3: I want to say is that the people to know
Speaker 3: you're top five want to know your top five jam,
Speaker 3: top fire. Your top five are the easeing alry me songs.
Speaker 3: Go to your phone where you.
Speaker 8: Want to know it.
Speaker 3: Don't god us in saying Louis no moon, He's home.
Speaker 9: We go.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Wow, that's crazy, ring ring it a home?
Speaker 9: Fine, yeah, yes, up, nice all nice, got a little
Speaker 9: got a little Disney, little Disney.
Speaker 3: Vibes, Man, Frank Kennedy, your top five R and B singers, Man,
Speaker 3: Stevie Wonder, Wow, bridey Night.
Speaker 2: You're gonna pick off everybody could play the piano, uh Brandy?
Speaker 3: Yeah, boys to man yea, yeah those are if young man,
Speaker 3: How are you? I'm forty, you're forty forty?
Speaker 2: Now are you a man? I was at your fortieth birthday.
Speaker 2: I just thought about that. Yeah, yeah, I didn't put
Speaker 2: up on.
Speaker 4: Your yeah water, Yeah, that's crazy. What's the spot that
Speaker 4: the verse at manny spot?
Speaker 3: Yeah, manni verse.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's just shout that out too.
Speaker 4: Oh my you been. That's what we just at for
Speaker 4: for for our guys. Grammy party, oh DJ camp.
Speaker 3: Camp Yeah yeah yeah, fire vibes in there, crazy and
Speaker 3: the sound is vibes. That was That's what we had summer. Okay,
Speaker 3: about five R and B songs. Okay, I wrote the
Speaker 3: damnse if I can remember for obvious reasons anytime Brian Night. Also, uh,
Speaker 3: back Street Don't Leave Me, Brandy the way You Touch Me?
Speaker 3: Come on Son, yeah come wow. That song is Whyzy.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, the production on that, that literally gave
Speaker 3: me a whole era of inspiration. I was like, what
Speaker 3: is what am I hearing music?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 3: Yeah? That's wold what for sure? And then uh, I
Speaker 3: want to know Joe. When I've seen the Wood soundtrack,
Speaker 3: I was like, what is this like? Then that was crazy?
Speaker 3: And then you're remind me I made the first time
Speaker 3: I heard it, I was I kept my mind. I heard,
Speaker 3: I heard, but I was like, okay, I'm just beat.
Speaker 3: Something is up. So I remember hearing that on the
Speaker 3: school bus.
Speaker 2: She got four MP she got and you got some
Speaker 2: more piano for.
Speaker 1: I ain't saying no n I ain't saying no name,
Speaker 1: ain't saying no names, ain't saying no where you was.
Speaker 8: What you did?
Speaker 3: You don't say she I ain't saying no. Wow, all right,
Speaker 3: you know where we're at. Okay, part of the show.
Speaker 2: We let's go very important segment.
Speaker 3: So hold on, hold on, okay, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 2: You tell us a.
Speaker 4: Story funny and fucked up, A funny and fucked up
Speaker 4: in the travels in the times.
Speaker 2: Brian Kennedy b k mistif for tone? What what's the
Speaker 2: other nigga?
Speaker 1: You was?
Speaker 3: So? Be unique? Okay?
Speaker 4: He sounds that sounds like what your uncle ben what
Speaker 4: he called himself? Want to see you go the song?
Speaker 4: If you're free, if you want to spend some time
Speaker 4: with be unique?
Speaker 2: Oh man, you too, You're too young to be calling
Speaker 2: yourself that.
Speaker 8: Bro.
Speaker 1: Know like.
Speaker 3: I was like hell a teenager? What like I had
Speaker 3: a hat, I had a concert everything, Bro, you want
Speaker 3: to get a cut. You should be see the unique
Speaker 3: like Nel Slaughers.
Speaker 2: I was like, Bro, I was definitely all be unique,
Speaker 2: had to be signed a Solar record.
Speaker 3: Yeah, lit be unique? Yo? That is incredible?
Speaker 2: All right? What's your eyes?
Speaker 7: The game name?
Speaker 3: I keep it real simple there. Uh, this is Brian
Speaker 3: Kennedy BKD. Time fully hit her out in a minute.
Speaker 3: At this point, now I'm like, okay, I want to
Speaker 3: work on any everything that is available to more me
Speaker 3: to work on. So this artist got booked that I'm
Speaker 3: a huge fan of, like I grew up on some
Speaker 3: of this stuff. And my dad was coming that week
Speaker 3: with my parents. I talked my dad, Hey, man, all
Speaker 3: my sessions are like wholesome, chill, be chilling. You should
Speaker 3: come to the studio. Man. He's like, I help you
Speaker 3: with your business, but I ain't gotta be in the studio.
Speaker 3: That's no. I want you come to this session, man,
Speaker 3: just on any giving day. Let me know. He's like,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna come to Wednesday. The artists get there, and
Speaker 3: I'm a fan. I'm like, bro, pleasure to meet you,
Speaker 3: like my dad's can come. It's gonna be a wholesome set.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I say wholesome, I just mean like chill and crazy.
Speaker 3: So I thought, and the artist is like, man, pleasures
Speaker 3: meet you, bro. I got you know. I got my
Speaker 3: dad's right next to me. He probably bigger about the
Speaker 3: patrol was like a little lot basing going on. I said, okay,
Speaker 3: no wrong that people want to get inspired, we go
Speaker 3: to the studio. He's I got some more inspiration pulling
Speaker 3: up for us. That's inspiration. He'said, hey, we need inspiration.
Speaker 3: That's so cool, bro. Two strippers a wrestler who was
Speaker 3: a stripper, a wrestler or a wrestler strip wrestler, stripper. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's what I said. So two strippers come in and
Speaker 3: then one was a professional wrestler stripper. Let's wrestling and
Speaker 3: uh my dad was like yeah, i'n't let you have
Speaker 3: this one. I said, I promise you all my sessions.
Speaker 3: I was like, he's like, what is it? What is this?
Speaker 3: I was like, man, who, I said, we got to
Speaker 3: cater to. And then the artist is like, yo, Dad,
Speaker 3: is he a pastor or something? I said no, no,
Speaker 3: he cool. He said, all right, trying to start, and
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, be cool, man, we can keep
Speaker 3: it cool. I'm in there making beats. The rest are
Speaker 3: over here, got my homie choked up like this. He's
Speaker 3: like like yeah. He's like, yo, hey, stop stop that stop,
Speaker 3: let it go, Let it go. He almost stepped out.
Speaker 3: And then I'll make some beach stuff. Try to keep
Speaker 3: the innergme. I'm like, yo, I'm a fan of this opportunity.
Speaker 3: This opportunity must happen. I've been uniqu's been in worse
Speaker 3: situations before.
Speaker 8: Not really but kind of like, you know, this got
Speaker 8: here I have Yeah, for sure. It's like I can
Speaker 8: maintain you whever this is.
Speaker 3: So I'm making beats and the vibes are going, and
Speaker 3: it's like a circus wrestling show, one stripping and one's
Speaker 3: doing this, and then and and the artists like told
Speaker 3: you to get crazy, We're gonna were gonna make this
Speaker 3: make I was like, yeah, bro, like sure. So I
Speaker 3: was like the one of the longest, shortest sessions I've
Speaker 3: ever had, ever had, but it was interesting. But the
Speaker 3: whole thing was my dad's supposed to witness me do
Speaker 3: my producer thing, and he was like, yeah, I don't
Speaker 3: know about this, so you can have that and then
Speaker 3: to bite me. That's how Rianna comes together because this
Speaker 3: ain't it. So it's coming when those moments. So I
Speaker 3: can't say no names, but definitely was an experience. Did
Speaker 3: you get a hit out of it?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 3: Uh, the hit didn't come out, but the song he
Speaker 3: was doing was very, very present. It was very in
Speaker 3: that moment. In the moment he said that's how I
Speaker 3: write these songs. I was like, you don't say so.
Speaker 2: The song is called put You in the Pressive.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they got paid, but you gotta know, yo,
Speaker 3: he legit almost choked out. I'm like, bro, don't you
Speaker 3: know you gotta have etiquette? Bro, like let them do
Speaker 3: what they do. And he just doing too much. She
Speaker 3: was like, I'm a wrestler for real. Bro, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: choke your friend. It took like three of us to
Speaker 3: I'm gonna choke your friend yo. And he was like,
Speaker 3: She's like do it and she grabbed him and he
Speaker 3: was like, I was like, this is serious and she
Speaker 3: was litting everything. I was like, I was like, man,
Speaker 3: I think I'm just go home and make some poppy together.
Speaker 3: Man like I can't do this. But it was it
Speaker 3: was an interesting experience. Got it. That's good session with him.
Speaker 3: I need to get Ring the Wrestler, Ring Blood Wrestler. No,
Speaker 3: it was like trench coat vibe and everything. It was
Speaker 3: like it went from this to that. Fact. You know,
Speaker 3: I wasn't drinking nothing. I was always just keeping it.
Speaker 3: I was always level, So I mean, I'm not jopping
Speaker 3: in sessions, I'm chilling, I'm not judging nothing, but I'm sober.
Speaker 3: But this is not so activity taking place. I go
Speaker 3: to the house and the hills after this is gonna
Speaker 3: get crazier. I was like, this is where I stopped.
Speaker 3: This is my It's gonna get crazy. This ain't crazy. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So that was it on Friday drinking sessions. I'm glad
Speaker 1: you didn't partake because some of us aren't that strong.
Speaker 1: Next time you saw me was being a WrestleMania.
Speaker 2: Where should like that Bud.
Speaker 5: Come on, brother, buddy, brother, you know me and my
Speaker 5: whole comedian as Jean watch read him and saying the
Speaker 5: prayers brother, she wow, what you mean many? Yeah, I'm
Speaker 5: all the way ahead. He even took this nigga back
Speaker 5: to his Yeah the Greatest.
Speaker 3: Wrestling. His interviews were crazy though, Nigga Yeah.
Speaker 1: Rappish and Rick Rude, Jake the Snake Yo, I was
Speaker 1: the wonderful Paul Off Yo.
Speaker 3: I'll watch rout your interviews just for inspiration. Within a
Speaker 3: ten year span, Like when I was going through, I'm like,
Speaker 3: what this dude say. Yeah, sometimes you get down, but
Speaker 3: you gotta just get back in the game. The creamp
Speaker 3: rides to the time of like this dude' hype me
Speaker 3: up and it's all fake but maybe not. Somebody's gotta
Speaker 3: get back to that, yo. I'm literally yeah, interviews is crazy.
Speaker 3: I gotta get I gotta get back to that.
Speaker 2: You're gonna start giving inspirationalview.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start giving Clicho man, Randy Sadly inspiration no
Speaker 1: fight board videos. Did you know you can't just let
Speaker 1: them roll over? You could give them a nsion, now
Speaker 1: take a mile. You can't let him do what I
Speaker 1: tell you now that.
Speaker 3: You men is never letting your slide.
Speaker 2: You got a headache yet not.
Speaker 6: Hilarious, never letting you slide.
Speaker 1: He was in it for really, he that wrestler would
Speaker 1: have came to the studio. I'm just telling you, I'd
Speaker 1: have been.
Speaker 3: In my world. That's crazy.
Speaker 1: It was he was wrestling for sure. Well, Uh, mister,
Speaker 1: it's getting mister, get these names together. Brian Kennedy.
Speaker 3: Aka A k A. What's the wrap on Lavone?
Speaker 2: Mister Bouton?
Speaker 3: Mister, yes, that's how mister Bouton is. Like I was.
Speaker 1: It was like, it's not Louis, but it's you know,
Speaker 1: it's giving me money talks in the past, Bouton started
Speaker 1: hanging together.
Speaker 3: Uh to be here you go? What was it again?
Speaker 3: Unique be unique you had here when you was be
Speaker 3: unique too, right like I burn or something that's right,
Speaker 3: the skinny cyburn. It was breed his baby face, it
Speaker 3: was breed.
Speaker 2: Tourney Silver said, Tourney Silver.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the name of what is.
Speaker 7: It was that.
Speaker 1: To Megan Hit records, man, to fighting for your life
Speaker 1: on so many fronts, to bringing an amazing you know,
Speaker 1: an amazing moment to to the pod man with this
Speaker 1: health and wellness. Man, I think that that right there
Speaker 1: is for me is the gold Like everything that you've
Speaker 1: accomplished musically speaks for yourself. You're hardworking, your dedication to
Speaker 1: the craft. But everything you've you're accomplishing and everything that
Speaker 1: you've fought through and not just survived but are thriving
Speaker 1: through at this point in your life. Man, that's that's
Speaker 1: the gold Man. That's the gold Man. And we we
Speaker 1: salute you, brother, appreciate it, We salute you. We love you, brother,
Speaker 1: and we are we are we are better because you
Speaker 1: are here.
Speaker 3: Wow, for real. And you know, let us know how
Speaker 3: we can be involved.
Speaker 2: We can let us turn up someone what they call
Speaker 2: them gallus.
Speaker 3: Turned up. Let us turn the things out man like
Speaker 3: one un Like some of you, those it's amazing. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but yeah, we do need to be in those rooms
Speaker 3: so we can show them what it is, show them
Speaker 3: how to get that information to ye to the people
Speaker 3: who need it and need to understand it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: God man, we love you.
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