1 00:00:05,046 --> 00:00:08,046 Speaker 1: A Huddle is a production of the NFL and partnership 2 00:00:08,086 --> 00:00:22,086 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. Oh I get that. What's good everybody. Super 3 00:00:22,086 --> 00:00:26,406 Speaker 1: Bowl Week it is culminating finally with the game that 4 00:00:26,446 --> 00:00:30,206 Speaker 1: we've been talking about. Welcome into the L Huddle podcast, 5 00:00:30,406 --> 00:00:35,886 Speaker 1: Will Salve alongside me a Manama Edna mj Acosta Ruiz. 6 00:00:36,126 --> 00:00:37,726 Speaker 1: I always have to mention that, I always have to 7 00:00:37,726 --> 00:00:39,566 Speaker 1: put that in there. Yeah, no, it's a thing now 8 00:00:39,686 --> 00:00:41,886 Speaker 1: like that. If you don't say it, it would be weird. 9 00:00:42,406 --> 00:00:46,126 Speaker 1: You're weird. Yeah. Yeah, A super Bowl. Oh my gosh, 10 00:00:46,126 --> 00:00:50,326 Speaker 1: we made it. We did it barely, but we did. 11 00:00:50,566 --> 00:00:53,806 Speaker 1: We got here. Um for y'all who don't know, if 12 00:00:53,806 --> 00:00:56,486 Speaker 1: you've never been part of the Super Bowl, of course, 13 00:00:56,526 --> 00:00:59,206 Speaker 1: the game Super Bowl Sunday is huge. It's the mecca. 14 00:00:59,286 --> 00:01:01,486 Speaker 1: It's it's everything that we work for the entire year. 15 00:01:01,726 --> 00:01:06,646 Speaker 1: But the lead up this week it's craziness. You, um, 16 00:01:06,846 --> 00:01:09,046 Speaker 1: five hours? Do people still drink five hour energy? Not 17 00:01:09,086 --> 00:01:11,806 Speaker 1: a plug? Just wondering. I don't because coffee is not 18 00:01:11,886 --> 00:01:15,126 Speaker 1: doing it. It's not to fish, no, but it's always 19 00:01:15,206 --> 00:01:18,046 Speaker 1: right by the little like penny dish in places, right 20 00:01:18,086 --> 00:01:20,406 Speaker 1: because like you said, oh, there's there's a little fairness, 21 00:01:20,526 --> 00:01:22,526 Speaker 1: and there's five hour energy. Yeah I don't know, I 22 00:01:22,926 --> 00:01:27,886 Speaker 1: don't know is really what, but I go with um. 23 00:01:28,126 --> 00:01:31,886 Speaker 1: It gets the job done. And thank goodness because Radio Row, 24 00:01:31,926 --> 00:01:35,166 Speaker 1: where we are set up in Arizona is nuts. Let 25 00:01:35,166 --> 00:01:37,446 Speaker 1: me set the scene for everybody, because well, and you've 26 00:01:37,486 --> 00:01:40,806 Speaker 1: seen radio rows before, they are just packed. It's every 27 00:01:40,926 --> 00:01:44,206 Speaker 1: possible media outlet, every radio show, not just for the 28 00:01:44,286 --> 00:01:46,926 Speaker 1: two teams um team cities that are represented in the 29 00:01:46,966 --> 00:01:51,166 Speaker 1: super Bowl, but across these sports and beyond landscape. So 30 00:01:51,286 --> 00:01:55,166 Speaker 1: it's just it's rows and rows, literal rows of every 31 00:01:55,206 --> 00:01:57,886 Speaker 1: media personality and every show that you can imagine. And 32 00:01:57,926 --> 00:02:01,246 Speaker 1: then in between that is every athlete celebrity you could 33 00:02:01,246 --> 00:02:03,286 Speaker 1: possibly dream up. And it's a little bit like the 34 00:02:03,366 --> 00:02:06,046 Speaker 1: Hunger Games, right, like you're trying to grab folks, like 35 00:02:06,086 --> 00:02:09,046 Speaker 1: you have folks booked for your show, but there's also like, oh, 36 00:02:09,086 --> 00:02:11,566 Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm making this up. Snoop Dog walking 37 00:02:11,606 --> 00:02:14,166 Speaker 1: by Snoop Dog's always there. That was low hanging fruit. 38 00:02:14,206 --> 00:02:17,926 Speaker 1: He's always around one way or another. Gig. Great guests, right, 39 00:02:18,246 --> 00:02:22,726 Speaker 1: great guests at Radio Row. Let's take a listen. It 40 00:02:22,926 --> 00:02:26,286 Speaker 1: is an honor all fangirl moment. I can say it proudly. 41 00:02:26,366 --> 00:02:30,806 Speaker 1: I'm here with artists Lucina the first Chicana Native American 42 00:02:30,886 --> 00:02:33,566 Speaker 1: visual artist to work with the league on Super Bowl 43 00:02:33,606 --> 00:02:36,166 Speaker 1: theme art. And it's not just theme art, these are 44 00:02:36,526 --> 00:02:39,046 Speaker 1: full pieces of art that you will see everywhere. Um, 45 00:02:39,126 --> 00:02:42,246 Speaker 1: Lucine that we just saw the program for you. I'm 46 00:02:42,286 --> 00:02:44,366 Speaker 1: holding it so the first time you've seen it. I 47 00:02:44,366 --> 00:02:47,406 Speaker 1: didn't realize you hadn't seen it yet. So what is 48 00:02:47,406 --> 00:02:49,206 Speaker 1: going through your head now that you see it materialize 49 00:02:49,246 --> 00:02:51,846 Speaker 1: in front of you. UM trying to actually hold back 50 00:02:51,886 --> 00:02:55,286 Speaker 1: the tears. It's really overwhelming and emotional for me because 51 00:02:56,246 --> 00:02:59,326 Speaker 1: it was like the initial phone call when the NFL 52 00:03:01,086 --> 00:03:03,086 Speaker 1: I had that zoom call with them to notify me 53 00:03:03,166 --> 00:03:05,126 Speaker 1: that I had I got selected to be the super 54 00:03:05,166 --> 00:03:08,166 Speaker 1: Bowl theme art for this year super Bowl. I became 55 00:03:08,206 --> 00:03:11,366 Speaker 1: really emotional because for that moment, I saw a glimpse 56 00:03:11,366 --> 00:03:15,126 Speaker 1: of what I've been through as a single mom of three, 57 00:03:15,566 --> 00:03:18,406 Speaker 1: and all those hardships and obstacles, what I've been through 58 00:03:18,446 --> 00:03:20,806 Speaker 1: to get here at this moment now, and it's just 59 00:03:20,846 --> 00:03:22,646 Speaker 1: like it was like a flash and so it hit me, 60 00:03:23,046 --> 00:03:25,766 Speaker 1: you know, and I just became emotional and now seeing this, 61 00:03:26,606 --> 00:03:28,926 Speaker 1: I haven't had the moment to take everything in and 62 00:03:28,966 --> 00:03:31,286 Speaker 1: so that was that's just another like oh to my heart. 63 00:03:31,566 --> 00:03:33,886 Speaker 1: It just makes me emotional. But I'm also very very 64 00:03:33,926 --> 00:03:38,726 Speaker 1: proud because from the messages to the dms into like 65 00:03:38,766 --> 00:03:42,126 Speaker 1: the shout outs, like I've seen people my community in public, 66 00:03:42,326 --> 00:03:45,806 Speaker 1: and you know, just letting me know or telling me 67 00:03:45,846 --> 00:03:48,046 Speaker 1: how proud they are makes me proud. You know, Well, 68 00:03:48,046 --> 00:03:52,326 Speaker 1: you're such a vivid and beautiful representation of intersectionality, right, 69 00:03:52,406 --> 00:03:55,006 Speaker 1: you have so much as part of your roots. Can 70 00:03:55,046 --> 00:03:58,006 Speaker 1: you take me through that and really a bit more 71 00:03:58,046 --> 00:04:00,206 Speaker 1: on what it means to be sitting here, Like, let 72 00:04:00,246 --> 00:04:02,726 Speaker 1: this be your moment, girl, because I know that's Super Bowl. 73 00:04:02,766 --> 00:04:04,886 Speaker 1: It's crazy, right, you literally don't have a second. I 74 00:04:04,966 --> 00:04:06,886 Speaker 1: know someone else told you, hey, look up real quick, 75 00:04:06,886 --> 00:04:09,926 Speaker 1: there's your Murley as you're walking through the city. Take 76 00:04:09,966 --> 00:04:13,006 Speaker 1: this moment now to try and and and wrap your 77 00:04:13,006 --> 00:04:15,806 Speaker 1: head around all that's happened and where it's led you 78 00:04:15,846 --> 00:04:20,286 Speaker 1: to let me just take that breath right now. Actually, 79 00:04:20,286 --> 00:04:23,806 Speaker 1: I literally ran over here to be here, So it's 80 00:04:23,846 --> 00:04:26,606 Speaker 1: been like, yeah, I wasn't. I didn't know what was 81 00:04:26,766 --> 00:04:28,606 Speaker 1: to happen. I didn't know what was going to happen. 82 00:04:28,686 --> 00:04:31,206 Speaker 1: I didn't know what to expect as an artist. I'm 83 00:04:31,206 --> 00:04:34,406 Speaker 1: just doing something that I love to do. In twenty fifteen, 84 00:04:34,406 --> 00:04:37,686 Speaker 1: a mural change my life. It inspired me a culturally, spiritually, 85 00:04:37,806 --> 00:04:40,086 Speaker 1: politically awakened me. And that's just what I want to 86 00:04:40,086 --> 00:04:43,766 Speaker 1: do for others. And so now I'm here. I've been 87 00:04:43,806 --> 00:04:46,086 Speaker 1: just looking down and moving forward and not looking left 88 00:04:46,166 --> 00:04:48,046 Speaker 1: or right, just doing something I love. And now I 89 00:04:48,086 --> 00:04:51,126 Speaker 1: look up and I'm like, WHOA, Like it's it's hard 90 00:04:51,246 --> 00:04:54,086 Speaker 1: not to get emotional, you know, Like I walked up 91 00:04:54,086 --> 00:04:56,006 Speaker 1: and I wanted to cry because it's a lot, but 92 00:04:56,166 --> 00:04:59,366 Speaker 1: it's like it's it's exciting. It's really exciting. My family 93 00:04:59,406 --> 00:05:01,086 Speaker 1: is so proud, my community is so broad, and my 94 00:05:01,166 --> 00:05:03,566 Speaker 1: kids are proud, and I'm really excited to be here. 95 00:05:03,646 --> 00:05:05,766 Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you, your kid know how how 96 00:05:05,806 --> 00:05:09,646 Speaker 1: cool this is? Like really really what their mom has done? 97 00:05:09,886 --> 00:05:13,166 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. So I've been doing the art gig 98 00:05:13,366 --> 00:05:17,326 Speaker 1: since two thousand eleven, twelve, are not new to this. 99 00:05:17,766 --> 00:05:19,926 Speaker 1: I started doing art shows though. You want to know 100 00:05:19,966 --> 00:05:22,246 Speaker 1: why though, because I was trying to put my kids 101 00:05:22,246 --> 00:05:24,246 Speaker 1: in pop worn or football. So they've been playing. I 102 00:05:24,326 --> 00:05:27,326 Speaker 1: was a football mom, the fees and you know what 103 00:05:27,366 --> 00:05:29,566 Speaker 1: pop warn is actually expensive, it's not. So I was 104 00:05:29,566 --> 00:05:31,726 Speaker 1: trying to figure out this side hustle, like I got 105 00:05:31,806 --> 00:05:34,486 Speaker 1: you know us, mom, they're survivors. We would make it happen. 106 00:05:34,886 --> 00:05:37,326 Speaker 1: So I got into art. It started throughing art shows, 107 00:05:37,326 --> 00:05:39,966 Speaker 1: but if from that it went to twenty and fifteen, 108 00:05:39,966 --> 00:05:42,286 Speaker 1: this mural changed my life and then it went from that. 109 00:05:42,366 --> 00:05:45,326 Speaker 1: So now my kids seeing because you know, they thought 110 00:05:45,326 --> 00:05:46,886 Speaker 1: it was just a hobby, they didn't really know. I 111 00:05:47,126 --> 00:05:49,206 Speaker 1: was just asking back, that is am I cool? Now? 112 00:05:49,486 --> 00:05:52,886 Speaker 1: In my cool? Now? Now I'm like now am I cool? 113 00:05:52,926 --> 00:05:54,966 Speaker 1: And they're like, yes, we don't have to ask the 114 00:05:55,086 --> 00:05:57,686 Speaker 1: question anymore, all right, Like you can hold this over 115 00:05:57,726 --> 00:05:59,686 Speaker 1: their heads for the rest of their life because all 116 00:05:59,726 --> 00:06:03,126 Speaker 1: their friends are like yo, yeah. So their friends were 117 00:06:03,126 --> 00:06:06,646 Speaker 1: posting the super ticket and then my kids are yeah, 118 00:06:06,686 --> 00:06:09,806 Speaker 1: we're cool, We're famous, man, we're famous. They're like, excuse me, 119 00:06:09,926 --> 00:06:13,126 Speaker 1: actually that would be me by thanks by extension. So wait, 120 00:06:13,206 --> 00:06:16,446 Speaker 1: this is quite literally a full circle moment because what 121 00:06:16,526 --> 00:06:19,166 Speaker 1: got you into this was trying to find a way 122 00:06:19,486 --> 00:06:22,806 Speaker 1: to provide an opportunity for your kids to play a 123 00:06:22,846 --> 00:06:24,806 Speaker 1: sport that they love. Yeah, and now you're on the 124 00:06:24,806 --> 00:06:28,766 Speaker 1: biggest stage four American Football with your art at the forefront. 125 00:06:28,766 --> 00:06:32,486 Speaker 1: I mean that's crazy. Life does not imitate art, it 126 00:06:32,646 --> 00:06:35,366 Speaker 1: is a reflection of art. I mean wow. I always say, 127 00:06:35,406 --> 00:06:37,686 Speaker 1: you know what, be mindful of what you put out. 128 00:06:37,806 --> 00:06:41,246 Speaker 1: You know, the good energy you put out, and because 129 00:06:41,246 --> 00:06:43,846 Speaker 1: whatever you put out you received three times fold, and 130 00:06:43,886 --> 00:06:46,726 Speaker 1: whether it's bad or good. And I've always lived by that. 131 00:06:46,766 --> 00:06:49,486 Speaker 1: And as Native people, you know, we carry that. It's 132 00:06:49,526 --> 00:06:52,726 Speaker 1: always been the ways of our people is putting that 133 00:06:52,806 --> 00:06:55,446 Speaker 1: good out and windslor Nosey blessed our mural the other day. 134 00:06:55,526 --> 00:06:58,726 Speaker 1: He reminded us, remember which you put out, you received 135 00:06:58,766 --> 00:07:01,206 Speaker 1: three times fold, and like I said, bad or good. 136 00:07:01,246 --> 00:07:03,006 Speaker 1: And that's what I've been doing. And now it's like 137 00:07:03,086 --> 00:07:08,326 Speaker 1: full circle. It's like your own path. You know, opportunities 138 00:07:08,406 --> 00:07:12,686 Speaker 1: naturally comes, or prosperity comes, abundance comes as you see. 139 00:07:12,846 --> 00:07:15,566 Speaker 1: Like I've always looked at life like that because I've 140 00:07:15,606 --> 00:07:18,566 Speaker 1: never had much. But I'm alive, I'm wealthy and health. 141 00:07:18,686 --> 00:07:21,366 Speaker 1: I'm healthy. My kids are good. They're healthy, and that's 142 00:07:21,366 --> 00:07:23,566 Speaker 1: what matters to me. And I carry that spirit and 143 00:07:23,686 --> 00:07:26,326 Speaker 1: everything that I do along with this piece. You know, 144 00:07:26,366 --> 00:07:28,886 Speaker 1: this this piece is more than just a super Bowl ticket. 145 00:07:28,926 --> 00:07:31,486 Speaker 1: It's more than a mural. It's a bigger purpose in itself. 146 00:07:31,526 --> 00:07:34,766 Speaker 1: And it's no coincidence that all these secret axicities are 147 00:07:34,806 --> 00:07:38,206 Speaker 1: happening as I'm painting this trophy, as I painted the mural, 148 00:07:38,646 --> 00:07:42,126 Speaker 1: and so you know that representation needed for needed to happen. 149 00:07:42,206 --> 00:07:44,806 Speaker 1: And what more space to be in than on the 150 00:07:44,846 --> 00:07:48,686 Speaker 1: biggest platform in the world. Oh my gosh. We talk 151 00:07:48,726 --> 00:07:50,886 Speaker 1: about the bragging rights right that your kids are going 152 00:07:50,926 --> 00:07:54,006 Speaker 1: to have, but truly, when you talk about the communities 153 00:07:54,326 --> 00:07:57,446 Speaker 1: that you serve and represent and the lessons that your 154 00:07:57,526 --> 00:07:59,326 Speaker 1: family is going to be able to glean from this, 155 00:07:59,526 --> 00:08:02,326 Speaker 1: if they take nothing else, you want them to remember 156 00:08:02,366 --> 00:08:06,766 Speaker 1: what about this experience and this moment that they had 157 00:08:06,886 --> 00:08:10,006 Speaker 1: a piece that represented them in our communities, in our 158 00:08:10,086 --> 00:08:13,006 Speaker 1: native people, and they can see people my family and 159 00:08:13,046 --> 00:08:15,926 Speaker 1: communities what they felt from it. They get they there's 160 00:08:15,966 --> 00:08:18,526 Speaker 1: some who have gotten emotional because it's like they're being 161 00:08:18,566 --> 00:08:20,886 Speaker 1: seen for the first time. Ye yes, And this is 162 00:08:21,286 --> 00:08:23,766 Speaker 1: a statement of saying that as Native people, we are 163 00:08:23,766 --> 00:08:26,446 Speaker 1: still here. You know, there's twenty two tribes in Arizona 164 00:08:26,486 --> 00:08:28,886 Speaker 1: or not. Many people know that, and so in the 165 00:08:28,966 --> 00:08:32,966 Speaker 1: painting I actually incorporated those those diamonds represent stars for 166 00:08:33,006 --> 00:08:36,846 Speaker 1: our twenty two tribes. Wow, so there's not everything about 167 00:08:36,886 --> 00:08:39,726 Speaker 1: this is intentional. Yes, that you see here, because when 168 00:08:39,726 --> 00:08:42,286 Speaker 1: we put symbols into our artwork, you know, the ancestors 169 00:08:42,286 --> 00:08:43,766 Speaker 1: have to and the elders, they have to give us 170 00:08:43,806 --> 00:08:46,606 Speaker 1: that permission to put these symbols. We still put patterns 171 00:08:46,606 --> 00:08:49,486 Speaker 1: on stuff just right right, you know. Oh my goodness. 172 00:08:49,966 --> 00:08:53,126 Speaker 1: So what will Super Bowl Sunday look like for you 173 00:08:53,366 --> 00:08:58,246 Speaker 1: this year? I'm so excited. I just I officially got invited. 174 00:08:59,406 --> 00:09:03,566 Speaker 1: I got four tickets who come in a pack. Kids 175 00:09:03,646 --> 00:09:07,326 Speaker 1: exactly absolutely get to we get to we get to 176 00:09:07,326 --> 00:09:10,086 Speaker 1: go together's family. You know, football has been a huge 177 00:09:10,086 --> 00:09:13,446 Speaker 1: impact on my son at Daniel's life. Yeah, you know, 178 00:09:13,486 --> 00:09:15,166 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get a little person. I almost lost my 179 00:09:15,206 --> 00:09:19,526 Speaker 1: son last year, but uh, football has inspired him, has 180 00:09:19,686 --> 00:09:22,926 Speaker 1: motivated him to keep going. He studies the football players. 181 00:09:22,966 --> 00:09:25,646 Speaker 1: He listens to their stories. You know, when I was painting, 182 00:09:25,646 --> 00:09:28,926 Speaker 1: it actually had a like I almost lost my Like 183 00:09:29,126 --> 00:09:33,566 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, yeah you girls anything, keep it real, 184 00:09:33,886 --> 00:09:36,766 Speaker 1: but I almost I almost lost it because you know, 185 00:09:36,806 --> 00:09:39,166 Speaker 1: it was tough painting this painting. But my son, when 186 00:09:39,206 --> 00:09:41,126 Speaker 1: I made a phone call, was crying. I was like, 187 00:09:41,166 --> 00:09:42,966 Speaker 1: I can't you know. I was. It was a lot. 188 00:09:43,046 --> 00:09:45,166 Speaker 1: And so my son picked up that phone calls like, Mom, 189 00:09:45,206 --> 00:09:47,366 Speaker 1: everything's gonna be okay. You're at another level now, you're 190 00:09:47,406 --> 00:09:50,086 Speaker 1: like the NFL players when they get drafted. For them, 191 00:09:50,366 --> 00:09:52,926 Speaker 1: when they get drafted, he's like, they go through the 192 00:09:52,966 --> 00:09:55,326 Speaker 1: same thing. It's overwhelming. They don't know what to expect. 193 00:09:55,366 --> 00:09:57,926 Speaker 1: And I was like, I love that he made that 194 00:09:58,006 --> 00:10:02,886 Speaker 1: connection to it. Yeah, he's like, so, um, just imagine 195 00:10:02,926 --> 00:10:04,686 Speaker 1: what they've been going through. What they go through when 196 00:10:04,686 --> 00:10:06,766 Speaker 1: they first drafted for the NFL. It's a lot to 197 00:10:06,766 --> 00:10:09,206 Speaker 1: take on. And now you're at that level. Mom, you're 198 00:10:09,246 --> 00:10:11,486 Speaker 1: not at you know. And I was like, okay, sudden 199 00:10:11,526 --> 00:10:14,326 Speaker 1: they wipe my tears and I was like I'm mama. Yeah. 200 00:10:14,566 --> 00:10:16,526 Speaker 1: I was like, man, my son did that for me? 201 00:10:16,846 --> 00:10:19,846 Speaker 1: Why because of the because of football, you know, sometimes 202 00:10:19,846 --> 00:10:22,526 Speaker 1: we think the younger generation isn't paying attention right, that 203 00:10:22,526 --> 00:10:24,886 Speaker 1: they're only seeing things at surface level. But a moment 204 00:10:24,926 --> 00:10:29,206 Speaker 1: like that for him to almost parent in that moment, 205 00:10:29,286 --> 00:10:32,686 Speaker 1: right like the coin flipped for a minute, that's incredible. 206 00:10:32,726 --> 00:10:34,606 Speaker 1: And he painted with me with for the mural. He 207 00:10:34,646 --> 00:10:36,446 Speaker 1: was my assistant, like he worked side by side with 208 00:10:36,486 --> 00:10:38,246 Speaker 1: me on that mural that we had a whole team 209 00:10:38,286 --> 00:10:41,526 Speaker 1: of um indigenous artists, which I was so grateful. Yeah, 210 00:10:41,766 --> 00:10:44,086 Speaker 1: a whole team of engineers, a female artist, and we 211 00:10:44,126 --> 00:10:47,486 Speaker 1: had some a couple of male artists, but the girls 212 00:10:47,566 --> 00:10:50,246 Speaker 1: led the way. Yeah. So it was amazing. And my 213 00:10:50,286 --> 00:10:53,166 Speaker 1: son Um was there helping the paint, helping me paint, 214 00:10:53,206 --> 00:10:55,726 Speaker 1: and it was just a really cool experience to work 215 00:10:55,766 --> 00:10:58,046 Speaker 1: with my son too and the team. Other than a 216 00:10:58,126 --> 00:11:01,286 Speaker 1: much needed spa day, what is next for you after 217 00:11:01,326 --> 00:11:05,046 Speaker 1: the rule? Okay, so I'm gonna take a spa day 218 00:11:05,046 --> 00:11:08,606 Speaker 1: in Tucsons. Ye might take a little vacation rocky point. 219 00:11:08,646 --> 00:11:10,566 Speaker 1: But the next thing for me is I'm gonna work 220 00:11:10,606 --> 00:11:14,246 Speaker 1: on my first solo exhibition. I've been working on that, 221 00:11:14,246 --> 00:11:18,846 Speaker 1: that this exhibition since for the past years now, I 222 00:11:18,926 --> 00:11:21,486 Speaker 1: say about twenty fifteen. I started to kind of like 223 00:11:21,526 --> 00:11:24,366 Speaker 1: put the thoughts together. And then about four years ago, 224 00:11:24,366 --> 00:11:28,126 Speaker 1: three years ago, I started photographing my muses, like my models, 225 00:11:28,526 --> 00:11:32,486 Speaker 1: because I'll be painting about local heroes are women heroes. 226 00:11:32,926 --> 00:11:35,406 Speaker 1: These are a couple of women that are my friends 227 00:11:35,446 --> 00:11:39,366 Speaker 1: that have incredible stories regarding carceration and car god like 228 00:11:39,406 --> 00:11:42,886 Speaker 1: immigration issues, like every issue you can like that really 229 00:11:42,966 --> 00:11:47,726 Speaker 1: hits home for me. I want to photograph them, paint them, 230 00:11:47,766 --> 00:11:51,166 Speaker 1: and then do installations exhibits. So I'm really excited. I 231 00:11:51,166 --> 00:11:54,286 Speaker 1: cannot wait. This is just the beginning. Yeah, and actually 232 00:11:54,286 --> 00:11:55,966 Speaker 1: this isn't the beginning, because you've been at this for 233 00:11:56,006 --> 00:11:58,446 Speaker 1: a long time and this is all of you port 234 00:11:58,486 --> 00:12:00,566 Speaker 1: into this. How lucky are we that we get to 235 00:12:00,606 --> 00:12:02,806 Speaker 1: share it with you and your family. Thank you, Lucia. 236 00:12:02,966 --> 00:12:04,606 Speaker 1: I'm so excited for you. I'm so proud of you. 237 00:12:04,806 --> 00:12:18,206 Speaker 1: Thank you. Joined now by the incomparable one and only 238 00:12:18,806 --> 00:12:21,966 Speaker 1: by the end of this interview, he will be my primo. Officially, 239 00:12:22,006 --> 00:12:25,766 Speaker 1: I think Anthony was in the house. Thank you so 240 00:12:25,846 --> 00:12:28,246 Speaker 1: much for joining us here on l huddle um as 241 00:12:28,286 --> 00:12:30,446 Speaker 1: a girl from the Heights. You know, I was hype 242 00:12:30,446 --> 00:12:34,766 Speaker 1: about this one. Yeah, personal connection here, not just from 243 00:12:34,846 --> 00:12:38,086 Speaker 1: the play um from the movie of course. But I 244 00:12:38,126 --> 00:12:40,166 Speaker 1: want to start with just your trajectory because I was 245 00:12:40,206 --> 00:12:42,326 Speaker 1: reading an article where you said that when you watched 246 00:12:42,526 --> 00:12:44,886 Speaker 1: the play in the Heights, it sort of changed things 247 00:12:44,886 --> 00:12:47,886 Speaker 1: for you. It was a pivotal moment in your acting career. Yeah, no, 248 00:12:47,966 --> 00:12:52,446 Speaker 1: it was. I mean, I like, I definitely thought about 249 00:12:52,726 --> 00:12:55,926 Speaker 1: like Quentin just because it was I was. I was auditioning, 250 00:12:55,966 --> 00:12:58,046 Speaker 1: and I was I was like really discouraged because of 251 00:12:58,326 --> 00:13:01,046 Speaker 1: all the roles, all the roles I couldn't get, and 252 00:13:01,046 --> 00:13:03,406 Speaker 1: all the knows I kept getting. I just I just 253 00:13:03,886 --> 00:13:06,806 Speaker 1: I'm going on too three auditions a day during the week, 254 00:13:07,646 --> 00:13:10,246 Speaker 1: like four times a week, and so I don't even 255 00:13:10,246 --> 00:13:12,446 Speaker 1: know how much how many that that is, but like 256 00:13:12,806 --> 00:13:14,686 Speaker 1: but uh, and I'm just getting no after no, I 257 00:13:14,726 --> 00:13:18,406 Speaker 1: have to know. And you know, finally I was like, dang, 258 00:13:18,526 --> 00:13:21,566 Speaker 1: like I need, you know, I maybe I should find 259 00:13:21,606 --> 00:13:23,646 Speaker 1: something new to do. Really, And I sat in the 260 00:13:23,686 --> 00:13:26,726 Speaker 1: audience and I'm watching these guys and I'm seeing, you know, 261 00:13:26,726 --> 00:13:28,766 Speaker 1: I'm seeing this whole cast and they all look like 262 00:13:28,806 --> 00:13:30,926 Speaker 1: my cousins and friends and people I grew up with, 263 00:13:31,006 --> 00:13:32,726 Speaker 1: and they all sound like people I grew up with. 264 00:13:33,486 --> 00:13:36,126 Speaker 1: And I was like, I was like, maybe maybe maybe 265 00:13:36,206 --> 00:13:39,126 Speaker 1: maybe I shouldn't quit. Maybe there is maybe there is 266 00:13:39,126 --> 00:13:41,286 Speaker 1: a space, Maybe there is hope, you know what I'm saying. 267 00:13:41,406 --> 00:13:44,406 Speaker 1: And I honestly it kept me going. There's something to 268 00:13:44,446 --> 00:13:48,366 Speaker 1: be said about seeing yourself, your perspective and your story 269 00:13:48,446 --> 00:13:50,806 Speaker 1: reflected back at you. Like that's I remember when I 270 00:13:50,886 --> 00:13:55,326 Speaker 1: first watched the play, Um, I sobbed. I sobbed in 271 00:13:55,366 --> 00:13:57,406 Speaker 1: the eyes. Everybody's looking at me, like, okay. I went 272 00:13:57,486 --> 00:14:00,086 Speaker 1: by myself. There was one seat left to go watch it, 273 00:14:00,406 --> 00:14:03,686 Speaker 1: and I said, okay, this this seat was meant for me. Uh. 274 00:14:03,726 --> 00:14:05,646 Speaker 1: And it was in the front row, which is kind 275 00:14:05,646 --> 00:14:07,846 Speaker 1: of tough to watch, but like I literally could see 276 00:14:08,046 --> 00:14:12,006 Speaker 1: the sweat, the heart, the emotion of it and that 277 00:14:12,726 --> 00:14:14,846 Speaker 1: just watching him back growing up on one ninety feet 278 00:14:15,126 --> 00:14:18,766 Speaker 1: off of St. Nicholas, Like it hit me so hard 279 00:14:18,846 --> 00:14:21,326 Speaker 1: because I think we all as Latinos in the space. 280 00:14:21,646 --> 00:14:25,206 Speaker 1: If you're in entertainment in film and TV, you're just 281 00:14:25,326 --> 00:14:29,086 Speaker 1: looking for a connection and it's tough when the representation 282 00:14:29,246 --> 00:14:32,566 Speaker 1: isn't there. It's wild. But you've you've served as a 283 00:14:32,606 --> 00:14:34,606 Speaker 1: conduit for so many of us, and you've done so 284 00:14:34,646 --> 00:14:37,286 Speaker 1: many different projects from that moment when you went to 285 00:14:37,326 --> 00:14:39,886 Speaker 1: go see in the Heights the stage play to now 286 00:14:39,886 --> 00:14:41,846 Speaker 1: where you've been now in motion pictures and the Heights, 287 00:14:41,926 --> 00:14:45,566 Speaker 1: the show, the actual movie, the film Hamilton. Of course, 288 00:14:45,846 --> 00:14:49,646 Speaker 1: what has that trajectory been like for you? You know, 289 00:14:49,686 --> 00:14:53,646 Speaker 1: it's it's uh, it's it's been. It's it's been, Like 290 00:14:54,766 --> 00:14:56,886 Speaker 1: Lynn says something to me, Lynn, who you know, made 291 00:14:56,886 --> 00:15:00,166 Speaker 1: the Knights in Hamilton. He um, he says something to me. 292 00:15:00,206 --> 00:15:03,486 Speaker 1: One time, I cracked a joke during rehearsal, uh when 293 00:15:03,526 --> 00:15:05,606 Speaker 1: we were still on Broadway, and and I said something. 294 00:15:05,606 --> 00:15:08,126 Speaker 1: I said a joke and then I kind of was 295 00:15:08,166 --> 00:15:10,126 Speaker 1: like self conscious about the way I said it. And 296 00:15:10,166 --> 00:15:11,966 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I feel like I talked to Hood. 297 00:15:12,446 --> 00:15:14,326 Speaker 1: I need to change the way I speak. I said that, 298 00:15:15,006 --> 00:15:16,966 Speaker 1: and he was like, Yo, you don't have to change 299 00:15:17,006 --> 00:15:18,446 Speaker 1: the way you speak by you just need to make 300 00:15:18,486 --> 00:15:21,806 Speaker 1: sure people understand you. And I was like, and I 301 00:15:21,846 --> 00:15:24,966 Speaker 1: think after he said that, it was like something clicked 302 00:15:24,966 --> 00:15:29,646 Speaker 1: in my brain and I just didn't move the same way, 303 00:15:29,686 --> 00:15:32,806 Speaker 1: you know, And I wasn't you know, I just I 304 00:15:32,806 --> 00:15:34,606 Speaker 1: don't know. It was just like, in that one moment, 305 00:15:34,686 --> 00:15:37,526 Speaker 1: I felt and I'm sure you know, people have told 306 00:15:37,566 --> 00:15:40,726 Speaker 1: me like you're enough and you're you know, you're you're 307 00:15:40,766 --> 00:15:43,206 Speaker 1: more than enough, and things like that don't ever change. 308 00:15:43,206 --> 00:15:45,646 Speaker 1: But sometimes it takes somebody to say something a certain 309 00:15:45,686 --> 00:15:49,686 Speaker 1: way for something to click in your brain. And in 310 00:15:49,686 --> 00:15:52,126 Speaker 1: that day, it just something just changed in me and 311 00:15:52,166 --> 00:15:54,286 Speaker 1: I and ever since that day, I just kind of 312 00:15:54,886 --> 00:15:56,926 Speaker 1: I moved through the industry in that way, and like 313 00:15:56,966 --> 00:16:00,126 Speaker 1: even when I take rolls. You know, I was just 314 00:16:00,166 --> 00:16:03,366 Speaker 1: having a meeting with a director yesterday on a on 315 00:16:03,406 --> 00:16:07,766 Speaker 1: a movie that potentially doing this film, and you know 316 00:16:07,766 --> 00:16:09,286 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And he said to me, you know 317 00:16:09,326 --> 00:16:11,206 Speaker 1: what what draws you to the roles that you do? 318 00:16:11,206 --> 00:16:14,326 Speaker 1: And I said, you know, I said, the ability for 319 00:16:14,366 --> 00:16:17,246 Speaker 1: me to bring myself to every single role, if he's 320 00:16:17,246 --> 00:16:20,486 Speaker 1: a cowboy, if he's an astronaut, if whatever he is. 321 00:16:21,086 --> 00:16:25,166 Speaker 1: The ability for me to bring the Puerto Rican kid 322 00:16:25,286 --> 00:16:29,046 Speaker 1: from the projects in Bushwick, Brooklyn to that role whatever 323 00:16:29,086 --> 00:16:31,646 Speaker 1: whoever that you know, whoever that is. You know, even 324 00:16:31,686 --> 00:16:34,686 Speaker 1: if I'm doing a dialect, a Southern dialect or Chicago whatever, 325 00:16:34,886 --> 00:16:37,566 Speaker 1: I'm still there's still that those pieces of me. So 326 00:16:37,606 --> 00:16:40,366 Speaker 1: I think that's kind of like, you know, that's kind 327 00:16:40,366 --> 00:16:43,006 Speaker 1: of how I approach it now. You know, I married 328 00:16:43,086 --> 00:16:47,206 Speaker 1: a new Eurecan Puerto Rican man from Park Slope and 329 00:16:47,366 --> 00:16:49,966 Speaker 1: he literally just had a story just like that. He 330 00:16:50,086 --> 00:16:52,126 Speaker 1: was in a Zoom meeting and someone brought up an idea. 331 00:16:52,206 --> 00:16:56,206 Speaker 1: He said, Yo, that's dope, and everyone almost took it 332 00:16:56,326 --> 00:16:58,046 Speaker 1: like a joke, like, oh, that's so funny that you're 333 00:16:58,246 --> 00:17:00,086 Speaker 1: He's like, Nah, that's like how I would talk anyway 334 00:17:00,086 --> 00:17:01,846 Speaker 1: just because I'm in a corporate space like this is 335 00:17:01,846 --> 00:17:04,646 Speaker 1: still who I am, right, So that that really clicked 336 00:17:04,686 --> 00:17:06,966 Speaker 1: with me a lot. Someone asked me yesterday, like, how 337 00:17:07,006 --> 00:17:09,406 Speaker 1: do you separate you know, MJ the reporter or the 338 00:17:09,406 --> 00:17:11,446 Speaker 1: host from like and I'm like, I don't and I 339 00:17:11,446 --> 00:17:13,726 Speaker 1: don't think I can or should do that, because we're 340 00:17:13,766 --> 00:17:17,926 Speaker 1: always searching for that authenticity, right, and you can't fake 341 00:17:17,926 --> 00:17:20,926 Speaker 1: the funk like people will know if you are trying 342 00:17:20,926 --> 00:17:22,806 Speaker 1: to make yourself out to be something you are not. 343 00:17:22,966 --> 00:17:25,926 Speaker 1: Has there been I'm sure there's been times where they've 344 00:17:25,966 --> 00:17:27,526 Speaker 1: tried to put you in this box if you have 345 00:17:27,566 --> 00:17:29,566 Speaker 1: no business being in or did you want to be 346 00:17:29,646 --> 00:17:31,726 Speaker 1: in right all the time? Yeah, I mean, you know, 347 00:17:32,166 --> 00:17:34,566 Speaker 1: I mean not as much anymore because I just don't. 348 00:17:35,246 --> 00:17:37,526 Speaker 1: I just don't allow it, you know. But it takes 349 00:17:37,566 --> 00:17:39,406 Speaker 1: for you to not allow it because people will do 350 00:17:39,446 --> 00:17:41,126 Speaker 1: it if do you let them. Though, people will do 351 00:17:41,166 --> 00:17:43,526 Speaker 1: whatever you let them allow them to do, you know, 352 00:17:43,566 --> 00:17:46,406 Speaker 1: and that's just life in general. Like, you know, no 353 00:17:46,446 --> 00:17:49,566 Speaker 1: one knows that they can't do something until you show them, 354 00:17:49,566 --> 00:17:51,206 Speaker 1: like no, you can't talk to me like that, or 355 00:17:51,246 --> 00:17:52,926 Speaker 1: you can't treat me that way, or you can't put 356 00:17:52,926 --> 00:17:55,406 Speaker 1: me in that box or no, I'll only do this, 357 00:17:55,566 --> 00:17:57,646 Speaker 1: or you know, this is what I feel like I'm 358 00:17:57,646 --> 00:18:01,086 Speaker 1: worth and if you don't feel that way, that's okay. Respectfully, 359 00:18:01,086 --> 00:18:04,086 Speaker 1: I appreciate that, you know, but I'm a walk you 360 00:18:04,086 --> 00:18:06,366 Speaker 1: know or what you know what I'm saying like and 361 00:18:06,366 --> 00:18:09,286 Speaker 1: and and um, you know, I think it's like you know, 362 00:18:09,326 --> 00:18:13,606 Speaker 1: I've definitely I've definitely been been tried uh many times. 363 00:18:13,646 --> 00:18:14,966 Speaker 1: You know, they try to put me in a box. 364 00:18:14,966 --> 00:18:16,686 Speaker 1: They try to say, oh that we see him in this, 365 00:18:16,766 --> 00:18:18,966 Speaker 1: we see him in that, and um. But but I 366 00:18:19,006 --> 00:18:21,166 Speaker 1: think what's most important. I guess what I've learned and 367 00:18:21,166 --> 00:18:23,126 Speaker 1: what I'm still learning is how do you see yourself? 368 00:18:23,966 --> 00:18:26,766 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, like, you know what I'm saying, like, 369 00:18:26,886 --> 00:18:29,526 Speaker 1: how do you see? How do you see yourself? You know? 370 00:18:29,646 --> 00:18:34,926 Speaker 1: Because you know I was. It's like what everybody will 371 00:18:34,966 --> 00:18:37,646 Speaker 1: tell you what they think you should be doing. They'll 372 00:18:37,766 --> 00:18:40,446 Speaker 1: they'll tell you like whether they you know or you 373 00:18:40,566 --> 00:18:42,846 Speaker 1: remind me of this person, you remind me of that person, 374 00:18:43,286 --> 00:18:45,566 Speaker 1: or you you you kind of resemble a young this 375 00:18:46,006 --> 00:18:49,046 Speaker 1: you know, like there's always it's very easy for people 376 00:18:49,086 --> 00:18:51,806 Speaker 1: to just compare you to a thing that they know already, right, 377 00:18:51,846 --> 00:18:54,366 Speaker 1: But it's harder for you to be the first person, 378 00:18:55,006 --> 00:18:56,486 Speaker 1: you know, it's harder for you to be the person 379 00:18:56,526 --> 00:18:59,126 Speaker 1: that did that first, you know. And I think that 380 00:18:59,246 --> 00:19:02,446 Speaker 1: starts with you saying to yourself, you know, me saying 381 00:19:02,446 --> 00:19:06,566 Speaker 1: to myself, like, YO, understand, this is what everybody sees 382 00:19:07,326 --> 00:19:09,926 Speaker 1: me doing, but what do you how do you see yourself? Yeah? 383 00:19:10,006 --> 00:19:13,446 Speaker 1: You know, what do you want if you have that 384 00:19:13,446 --> 00:19:15,966 Speaker 1: that foundation? Right? And by the way, it's scary to 385 00:19:15,966 --> 00:19:19,246 Speaker 1: tell people like nah, I'll walk away from this and 386 00:19:18,726 --> 00:19:22,406 Speaker 1: not be bluff like you mean it's you mean, because 387 00:19:22,486 --> 00:19:24,526 Speaker 1: you don't want to miss the opportunities, especially when you're 388 00:19:24,526 --> 00:19:27,006 Speaker 1: in a space where there hasn't been some when you're 389 00:19:27,006 --> 00:19:29,686 Speaker 1: the first, when you're the only like it's terrifying. But 390 00:19:29,846 --> 00:19:33,006 Speaker 1: you're like, will it come back around that part? That part? 391 00:19:33,046 --> 00:19:34,646 Speaker 1: And like my parents, I don't know if you like. 392 00:19:35,326 --> 00:19:36,766 Speaker 1: So my family struggles with a lot of like the 393 00:19:36,806 --> 00:19:39,446 Speaker 1: generational trauma. And it's not because it comes from a 394 00:19:39,446 --> 00:19:41,486 Speaker 1: place of malice. They were trying to protect me, right, 395 00:19:41,526 --> 00:19:44,526 Speaker 1: Like they only wanted to be to be successful coming 396 00:19:44,566 --> 00:19:49,086 Speaker 1: to this country as immigrants, right, So they're like, all right, 397 00:19:49,326 --> 00:19:51,246 Speaker 1: and it wasn't because they didn't love me for who 398 00:19:51,246 --> 00:19:53,806 Speaker 1: I was. But they're like, this is what's digestible to 399 00:19:53,846 --> 00:19:56,166 Speaker 1: the mainstream here in the United States. So like we 400 00:19:56,206 --> 00:19:58,046 Speaker 1: got to fit in as much as possible so that 401 00:19:58,126 --> 00:20:00,006 Speaker 1: you can be okay, so you can put food on 402 00:20:00,046 --> 00:20:02,846 Speaker 1: the table. Yea, I have somebody telling me to grow 403 00:20:02,886 --> 00:20:06,526 Speaker 1: my hair out so I could be ethnically ambiguous. Come on, yo, 404 00:20:07,406 --> 00:20:10,726 Speaker 1: Like first of all, YO, like no, but I feel you. Yeah, 405 00:20:10,806 --> 00:20:13,326 Speaker 1: it's a lot, it's a lot to digest, but there's 406 00:20:13,366 --> 00:20:15,886 Speaker 1: also so much beauty in what we bring to the table. 407 00:20:15,886 --> 00:20:17,366 Speaker 1: And I'm glad that we're in a space where it's 408 00:20:17,366 --> 00:20:20,886 Speaker 1: finally being I won't say accepted, because the acceptance part 409 00:20:20,926 --> 00:20:24,126 Speaker 1: for me is not paramount anymore. It was for a 410 00:20:24,166 --> 00:20:27,286 Speaker 1: real long time. Now it's like I'm celebrating it at 411 00:20:27,326 --> 00:20:29,446 Speaker 1: every turn. Um, and of course we're here at the 412 00:20:29,446 --> 00:20:31,366 Speaker 1: super Bowl. I know that sports was a big part 413 00:20:31,726 --> 00:20:33,566 Speaker 1: of your life too. Baseball, for sure. You are a 414 00:20:33,566 --> 00:20:37,126 Speaker 1: baseball player, played uh dB at one point yea, I 415 00:20:37,166 --> 00:20:39,366 Speaker 1: was told. So when you look around here and you're 416 00:20:39,406 --> 00:20:42,286 Speaker 1: amongst like other athletes. For me in dr like, baseball 417 00:20:42,366 --> 00:20:47,206 Speaker 1: was everything. It's like a religion in the Caribbean. In general, 418 00:20:48,206 --> 00:20:51,886 Speaker 1: baseball is life literally, you know, but it was also 419 00:20:51,926 --> 00:20:55,086 Speaker 1: a way out. It was yeah, like I mean, you know, 420 00:20:55,286 --> 00:21:00,286 Speaker 1: my brother played, my father played, my cousins playing, like everybody, 421 00:21:00,326 --> 00:21:03,606 Speaker 1: my whole family, like that was that was Baseball was 422 00:21:03,686 --> 00:21:07,646 Speaker 1: life and and it was our way of making something 423 00:21:07,646 --> 00:21:12,006 Speaker 1: of ourselves. You know. My brother was all all h State, 424 00:21:12,766 --> 00:21:15,366 Speaker 1: you know, he was all like he was one of 425 00:21:15,366 --> 00:21:17,966 Speaker 1: the best players in the country. And you know, my 426 00:21:18,046 --> 00:21:19,806 Speaker 1: cousin went on to play D one. He was an 427 00:21:19,846 --> 00:21:22,806 Speaker 1: amazing picture and playing D one. You know, I was 428 00:21:22,886 --> 00:21:26,486 Speaker 1: gonna play college baseball. But then I just, you know, 429 00:21:26,526 --> 00:21:28,486 Speaker 1: I told the story actually in the interview recently where 430 00:21:28,486 --> 00:21:30,166 Speaker 1: I said I was, I was in the outfield that 431 00:21:30,486 --> 00:21:32,446 Speaker 1: I had finished my senior year. I worked mad hard. 432 00:21:32,446 --> 00:21:34,566 Speaker 1: I had the highest batting average on my team in 433 00:21:34,686 --> 00:21:36,846 Speaker 1: high school in my senior year after being benched the 434 00:21:36,886 --> 00:21:39,606 Speaker 1: year before, you know what I'm saying. And I was like, yo, 435 00:21:39,646 --> 00:21:41,486 Speaker 1: it's never I'm never letting that happened to me again. 436 00:21:42,006 --> 00:21:45,246 Speaker 1: And and I went and and and you know, I 437 00:21:45,286 --> 00:21:47,286 Speaker 1: had a great season. But then I'm playing summer ball 438 00:21:47,606 --> 00:21:50,686 Speaker 1: and I'm in the outfield. Yeah, I just had a 439 00:21:50,686 --> 00:21:53,886 Speaker 1: moment where I was like, Yo, this ain't it no more. 440 00:21:54,446 --> 00:21:56,486 Speaker 1: I don't think I felt it. I was just like, 441 00:21:56,526 --> 00:21:57,886 Speaker 1: I don't think this is it. And I had just 442 00:21:57,926 --> 00:22:00,806 Speaker 1: started doing theater, like but music was always my first love. 443 00:22:01,406 --> 00:22:03,726 Speaker 1: But I like audition for what I thought was a 444 00:22:03,806 --> 00:22:06,406 Speaker 1: talent show ended up being a musical. On high school, 445 00:22:06,446 --> 00:22:08,046 Speaker 1: I get a lead role. I was like, I don't 446 00:22:08,086 --> 00:22:10,566 Speaker 1: want to do this. This is crazy, it's mad lines. 447 00:22:10,646 --> 00:22:12,606 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna you know what I'm saying, Like, I 448 00:22:12,606 --> 00:22:14,606 Speaker 1: gotta be off. I gotta be off book like yo, 449 00:22:14,686 --> 00:22:16,566 Speaker 1: for real though, Like I didn't even do my homework 450 00:22:16,566 --> 00:22:18,886 Speaker 1: in high school, so it was like that was homework, 451 00:22:18,966 --> 00:22:21,046 Speaker 1: Like I had to really like practice and work at that. 452 00:22:21,606 --> 00:22:24,526 Speaker 1: But I just, you know, I just dove in and 453 00:22:24,526 --> 00:22:25,846 Speaker 1: I said, you know, well, let me try it. I've 454 00:22:25,886 --> 00:22:28,726 Speaker 1: never done this, I've never done this before, and I 455 00:22:28,806 --> 00:22:30,646 Speaker 1: just loved it and I just kept going with it. 456 00:22:30,686 --> 00:22:33,486 Speaker 1: And I think it was like find finding the thing 457 00:22:33,526 --> 00:22:37,006 Speaker 1: that I actually love. It was like I found the 458 00:22:37,046 --> 00:22:39,126 Speaker 1: thing that I actually loved more if you know this, 459 00:22:39,686 --> 00:22:42,766 Speaker 1: just as much, if not more than playing ball, you know. 460 00:22:42,846 --> 00:22:45,686 Speaker 1: And it was almost like I started to cultivate my 461 00:22:45,686 --> 00:22:49,046 Speaker 1: own identity apart from what my family thought I should 462 00:22:49,046 --> 00:22:50,526 Speaker 1: do all. You know. Even my brother said to me 463 00:22:50,526 --> 00:22:51,646 Speaker 1: one time, he was like, yeah, it was hard for 464 00:22:51,686 --> 00:22:53,926 Speaker 1: me when you quit, you know, because you don't even 465 00:22:54,886 --> 00:22:56,326 Speaker 1: he told me, he was like, it was hard for 466 00:22:56,326 --> 00:22:57,806 Speaker 1: me when you quit because I really wanted you to 467 00:22:57,886 --> 00:23:00,446 Speaker 1: keep going, you know. And that was you know, and 468 00:23:00,446 --> 00:23:02,886 Speaker 1: and it's it's sometimes somebody else's dream for you is 469 00:23:02,926 --> 00:23:05,446 Speaker 1: not you know what I'm saying. But yes, bots are 470 00:23:05,446 --> 00:23:08,406 Speaker 1: still that mentality like that that doesn't leave, that doesn't 471 00:23:08,486 --> 00:23:10,246 Speaker 1: leave you, like you know what I'm saying. And like 472 00:23:10,686 --> 00:23:13,006 Speaker 1: I was playing in the celebrity softball game recently and 473 00:23:13,326 --> 00:23:15,646 Speaker 1: I was like, no, we're gonna win, right, you know, 474 00:23:15,766 --> 00:23:18,926 Speaker 1: let's go and starting line up only Yeah, yeah, I 475 00:23:18,926 --> 00:23:22,926 Speaker 1: saw you dropping up Victor Cruz yesterday. Yeah. Obviously he's 476 00:23:22,966 --> 00:23:26,086 Speaker 1: well beloved from Giants fandom, but that the most legendary 477 00:23:26,086 --> 00:23:28,566 Speaker 1: catch of all time. Crazy, Okay, so we can put 478 00:23:28,566 --> 00:23:31,726 Speaker 1: that to rest. Nobody has to argue that, but quarter 479 00:23:31,806 --> 00:23:34,406 Speaker 1: with his helmet nuts it's why. Yeah, but you didn't 480 00:23:34,406 --> 00:23:37,246 Speaker 1: grow up a Giants fan. I'm a Jets fan. So 481 00:23:37,326 --> 00:23:39,286 Speaker 1: how do you square that? All? Right, that's my that's 482 00:23:39,326 --> 00:23:42,206 Speaker 1: my brother. But I don't you know, what. I don't 483 00:23:42,206 --> 00:23:44,686 Speaker 1: hate on the Giants when they in the when they 484 00:23:44,726 --> 00:23:47,446 Speaker 1: when they in the like, yeah, when you know I 485 00:23:47,526 --> 00:23:50,126 Speaker 1: wanted I wanted the Giants to win. Yeah, they made 486 00:23:50,166 --> 00:23:51,966 Speaker 1: it to playoffs. I was like, yes, let's go Giants 487 00:23:51,966 --> 00:23:54,646 Speaker 1: all the way. Let's get like it's New York, New York. Yeah, 488 00:23:54,686 --> 00:23:56,566 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like even love to the Bills, 489 00:23:56,606 --> 00:24:02,446 Speaker 1: like that's upstate, but you know, yeah, yeah, but it's 490 00:24:02,846 --> 00:24:04,926 Speaker 1: Dolphins fans. Yeah, but if your team ain't in it, 491 00:24:05,046 --> 00:24:06,606 Speaker 1: like it's like, you know, what are you gonna do? 492 00:24:06,766 --> 00:24:08,086 Speaker 1: Like what am I gonna do? I'm gonna hate on 493 00:24:08,126 --> 00:24:11,046 Speaker 1: the hilarious on the people, you know. But but you know, 494 00:24:11,326 --> 00:24:18,126 Speaker 1: Jets all day, Okay Gardner and Garrett Wilson Howe right 495 00:24:18,606 --> 00:24:20,686 Speaker 1: of the year. Well, I love what they're doing over there. 496 00:24:20,846 --> 00:24:22,766 Speaker 1: Robert sala I knew him from when I covered the 497 00:24:22,846 --> 00:24:27,046 Speaker 1: Niners over in sans Fire. Great freaking coach. He's fired 498 00:24:27,086 --> 00:24:29,126 Speaker 1: and the guys buy in as you can see, like 499 00:24:29,126 --> 00:24:32,446 Speaker 1: they love him. Um, have you had a chance to 500 00:24:32,566 --> 00:24:36,206 Speaker 1: even think about the matchup this Sunday though, the Eagles 501 00:24:36,206 --> 00:24:38,086 Speaker 1: and the Chiefs. I think it's I was just talking 502 00:24:38,086 --> 00:24:39,606 Speaker 1: to my boy. I think it's gonna be a shootout. 503 00:24:39,686 --> 00:24:41,486 Speaker 1: They have been texting me all day from our social team. 504 00:24:41,486 --> 00:24:42,846 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, guys, I'm gonna get this to you there 505 00:24:42,846 --> 00:24:45,246 Speaker 1: like we need your game pick. I can't pick. I 506 00:24:45,286 --> 00:24:47,366 Speaker 1: can't pick. It's so hard. I'm gonna have to. I'll 507 00:24:47,366 --> 00:24:49,486 Speaker 1: pick for you. I think the chiefs are gonna go okay, 508 00:24:49,526 --> 00:24:52,846 Speaker 1: all right, by conduit, by proxy, Anthony has picked for 509 00:24:53,566 --> 00:24:56,606 Speaker 1: that for me. Thank you don't have to you know, 510 00:24:56,806 --> 00:24:58,486 Speaker 1: Jay does not have to pick. You don't take the 511 00:24:58,486 --> 00:25:00,926 Speaker 1: burden off of my shoulders. I appreciate that so much. 512 00:25:00,966 --> 00:25:02,886 Speaker 1: Before I let you go here, anthw I talk to 513 00:25:02,926 --> 00:25:04,286 Speaker 1: you for hours because I know there's a lot of 514 00:25:04,406 --> 00:25:08,046 Speaker 1: layers here. How how much starts side? Did you grow 515 00:25:08,086 --> 00:25:13,206 Speaker 1: up dancing? How much? Wow? I mean I grew up 516 00:25:13,286 --> 00:25:15,566 Speaker 1: dancing in my house a lot. Yeah. I didn't take it. 517 00:25:15,846 --> 00:25:18,046 Speaker 1: I was not technically trained. But like I get down 518 00:25:18,846 --> 00:25:21,086 Speaker 1: on the street side of side game many years, I 519 00:25:21,086 --> 00:25:22,526 Speaker 1: can only dance with my pop because I was like, no, 520 00:25:22,606 --> 00:25:24,166 Speaker 1: he's the only person I'm dancing with. So I was 521 00:25:24,166 --> 00:25:26,886 Speaker 1: like three. But now I know that if you get 522 00:25:26,926 --> 00:25:35,046 Speaker 1: down always and like old school, yeah, yeah, they don't 523 00:25:35,046 --> 00:25:39,206 Speaker 1: even make any right, Yeah, all of that. Yeah, I 524 00:25:40,086 --> 00:25:42,686 Speaker 1: grew up dancing south side later on, like I didn't 525 00:25:42,726 --> 00:25:45,646 Speaker 1: grew up dancing south side like good, I know how 526 00:25:45,646 --> 00:25:48,206 Speaker 1: to dance it, okay now just after honestly after in 527 00:25:48,246 --> 00:25:50,446 Speaker 1: the heights, like I had to learn how to dance 528 00:25:50,486 --> 00:25:53,286 Speaker 1: on two, which is different dancing on one. Anybody who 529 00:25:53,366 --> 00:25:57,686 Speaker 1: dance south side two different things. And by the way, 530 00:25:57,686 --> 00:26:01,246 Speaker 1: like Puerto Ricans, Dominicans, Colombians kip it, like everybody dances 531 00:26:01,326 --> 00:26:05,566 Speaker 1: their own brand of side. It's crazy. But the styles different, yes, 532 00:26:05,686 --> 00:26:07,526 Speaker 1: but the beat is always there and it'll always been. 533 00:26:07,566 --> 00:26:10,166 Speaker 1: I'm so proud. Please tell me you watch the Grammys 534 00:26:10,166 --> 00:26:14,846 Speaker 1: and Bad Bunnies. Bad Bunny took over. I almost cried. 535 00:26:14,966 --> 00:26:17,366 Speaker 1: I was so happy. I was like, I was like, 536 00:26:17,406 --> 00:26:20,086 Speaker 1: they will never see a performance ever again, ever in 537 00:26:20,126 --> 00:26:23,926 Speaker 1: the history. Well hopefully hopefully they do. I mean hopefully 538 00:26:23,966 --> 00:26:25,966 Speaker 1: they do. How do you how do you talk that? 539 00:26:26,046 --> 00:26:28,926 Speaker 1: You literally cannot know? He smashed that. It was like 540 00:26:29,246 --> 00:26:31,286 Speaker 1: the biggest artist in the world right now, he's crushing. 541 00:26:31,326 --> 00:26:35,046 Speaker 1: When you got Taylor Swift at the Taylor Swift can't 542 00:26:35,086 --> 00:26:37,926 Speaker 1: sit She didn't know she she can't sit down. But 543 00:26:37,926 --> 00:26:40,806 Speaker 1: they don't. Now you know what I'm saying like I'm like, yo, 544 00:26:40,886 --> 00:26:44,206 Speaker 1: let's go. We're here like and we're not going anywhere. Anthony, 545 00:26:44,366 --> 00:26:46,646 Speaker 1: thank you so much. I appreciate your time. This has 546 00:26:46,686 --> 00:26:49,846 Speaker 1: been phenomenal. Um. Thank you for your insight and you're 547 00:26:49,846 --> 00:26:52,086 Speaker 1: sharing a little bit. Thanks for having me, this is 548 00:26:52,366 --> 00:27:14,206 Speaker 1: this is amazing. Thank you so much. Joined now by 549 00:27:14,446 --> 00:27:18,286 Speaker 1: Bill's Safety Jordan's player. Thank you so much for stopping by, 550 00:27:18,326 --> 00:27:21,166 Speaker 1: because I know it's it's wild here. People don't realize, 551 00:27:21,206 --> 00:27:23,726 Speaker 1: like the chaos that ensues on Super Bowl, it is 552 00:27:23,726 --> 00:27:25,846 Speaker 1: pretty wild here. But I appreciate you having me on. 553 00:27:25,926 --> 00:27:29,246 Speaker 1: It's always a blessing to be here. I'm just super 554 00:27:29,246 --> 00:27:31,206 Speaker 1: excited to be here and this is awesome. It's been 555 00:27:31,246 --> 00:27:33,686 Speaker 1: such a good time. And last night we had NFL Honors. 556 00:27:33,726 --> 00:27:35,326 Speaker 1: I just want to get rid of your reactions to 557 00:27:35,366 --> 00:27:37,486 Speaker 1: see to knowing that tomorrow was up there with the 558 00:27:37,646 --> 00:27:39,206 Speaker 1: entire medical time. I mean, it was the moment of 559 00:27:39,246 --> 00:27:40,646 Speaker 1: the night for me and I know for you guys 560 00:27:40,686 --> 00:27:44,366 Speaker 1: who were literally in this, Um, what does it feel 561 00:27:44,406 --> 00:27:47,766 Speaker 1: like now knowing that literally the best possible outcome is 562 00:27:47,806 --> 00:27:50,246 Speaker 1: what happened? Shit, I mean, it was his chills watching 563 00:27:50,326 --> 00:27:52,406 Speaker 1: him go up there and accept that and uh, First 564 00:27:52,406 --> 00:27:56,166 Speaker 1: of all, he looked super fly. He looked great. I 565 00:27:56,286 --> 00:27:59,726 Speaker 1: was like, damn, um No, it's just super proud of him. 566 00:27:59,766 --> 00:28:01,526 Speaker 1: I told him that last night, And you know I 567 00:28:01,606 --> 00:28:03,886 Speaker 1: always tell him that. I mean, he's just a kid 568 00:28:03,966 --> 00:28:07,486 Speaker 1: that he loves to give back so much and he 569 00:28:07,606 --> 00:28:11,166 Speaker 1: appreciates the position that he's in so much, and uh, 570 00:28:11,206 --> 00:28:13,526 Speaker 1: you know, for him to be going through what he 571 00:28:13,566 --> 00:28:15,126 Speaker 1: went through and to see where he's at now, I'm 572 00:28:15,166 --> 00:28:16,646 Speaker 1: just so proud of him. And to see all those 573 00:28:16,646 --> 00:28:20,086 Speaker 1: people up there, all the medical staff, excepting the award. Um. 574 00:28:20,366 --> 00:28:22,846 Speaker 1: I mean, that's just, like you said, the perfect scenario 575 00:28:22,966 --> 00:28:25,206 Speaker 1: because you know when it when it happened, I mean, 576 00:28:25,606 --> 00:28:27,206 Speaker 1: you know I was in on the play, and you 577 00:28:27,246 --> 00:28:30,286 Speaker 1: know it was something that you know, I questioned my football, 578 00:28:30,606 --> 00:28:33,166 Speaker 1: you know, for for I mean, still, do you know 579 00:28:33,166 --> 00:28:36,166 Speaker 1: how right? It's a lot of things a perspective, um. 580 00:28:36,686 --> 00:28:38,846 Speaker 1: But like I said, I'm just super proud of him, um, 581 00:28:38,886 --> 00:28:42,246 Speaker 1: and his family and that medical staff for for you know, 582 00:28:42,326 --> 00:28:44,006 Speaker 1: taking that one step at a time and get into 583 00:28:44,046 --> 00:28:45,526 Speaker 1: where they are right now. And to hear him say 584 00:28:45,526 --> 00:28:47,766 Speaker 1: that he's gonna play again, I'm super excited for him. 585 00:28:47,886 --> 00:28:50,166 Speaker 1: So what was that process like for you? Because that's 586 00:28:50,166 --> 00:28:52,246 Speaker 1: that's heavy, you know, like it really is for you 587 00:28:52,246 --> 00:28:55,646 Speaker 1: guys to to to I won't say compartmentalized, because I 588 00:28:55,646 --> 00:28:58,686 Speaker 1: can't imagine that's even a possibility, but to try and 589 00:28:58,766 --> 00:29:01,486 Speaker 1: carry all of that at the same time, Yeah, it 590 00:29:01,566 --> 00:29:04,086 Speaker 1: was tough. And I think, uh, you know, I honestly 591 00:29:04,126 --> 00:29:07,406 Speaker 1: think that with everything that went on throughout the season, um, 592 00:29:07,526 --> 00:29:09,646 Speaker 1: and the way the season ended, it almost seemed like 593 00:29:09,646 --> 00:29:11,566 Speaker 1: we we kind of ran out of gas at the 594 00:29:11,646 --> 00:29:13,246 Speaker 1: end of the season and we didn't have enough left 595 00:29:13,326 --> 00:29:15,526 Speaker 1: in the tank. And you know, with everything that went 596 00:29:15,566 --> 00:29:18,406 Speaker 1: on with the you know, the buffalo shootings, the you know, 597 00:29:19,206 --> 00:29:22,126 Speaker 1: it was a lot, you know, and um, you know, 598 00:29:22,246 --> 00:29:25,006 Speaker 1: to see, like I said, to see dham go what 599 00:29:25,126 --> 00:29:27,006 Speaker 1: he went through, and like that whole week it almost 600 00:29:27,006 --> 00:29:28,566 Speaker 1: seems like a blur because almost seems like it was 601 00:29:28,566 --> 00:29:30,766 Speaker 1: a movie. You know, as soon as as soon as 602 00:29:30,806 --> 00:29:32,766 Speaker 1: you know, he went down and the do you see 603 00:29:32,806 --> 00:29:35,686 Speaker 1: the medical staff come out, the ambulance come out. I mean, 604 00:29:35,726 --> 00:29:38,446 Speaker 1: it was it was you got yourselves like is this 605 00:29:38,526 --> 00:29:42,006 Speaker 1: really happening right now? Like is this really happening? You know, 606 00:29:42,046 --> 00:29:43,326 Speaker 1: and then you go to the locker room and you 607 00:29:43,366 --> 00:29:46,326 Speaker 1: could really hear a pin drop. Nobody knew what to say. 608 00:29:46,726 --> 00:29:50,366 Speaker 1: Everybody just wondering a dam gonna be okay? Um, you know, 609 00:29:50,406 --> 00:29:52,486 Speaker 1: and you know I said this on a couple other shows. 610 00:29:52,526 --> 00:29:54,406 Speaker 1: You know, our head coach, Sean McDermott, I gave him 611 00:29:54,406 --> 00:29:57,446 Speaker 1: so much praise because you know, being able to you know, 612 00:29:57,566 --> 00:29:59,806 Speaker 1: to lead a group of men in that instance, right there, 613 00:29:59,806 --> 00:30:02,766 Speaker 1: in that moment, right there, and and really take charge 614 00:30:02,766 --> 00:30:04,766 Speaker 1: and you know, let us know, like he told us, look, 615 00:30:04,886 --> 00:30:06,246 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna make you guys go back out there 616 00:30:06,246 --> 00:30:08,646 Speaker 1: and play playing this game after seeing what you guys 617 00:30:08,646 --> 00:30:11,246 Speaker 1: just just saw. Um, we're gonna sit and play pray 618 00:30:11,286 --> 00:30:13,526 Speaker 1: for bed him. And you know, as the days went by, 619 00:30:13,566 --> 00:30:16,366 Speaker 1: we kept continuing to get better and better news um 620 00:30:16,406 --> 00:30:19,246 Speaker 1: about him. But that didn't take away the fact that 621 00:30:19,326 --> 00:30:21,566 Speaker 1: you know, you saw what you saw. You know, he 622 00:30:21,566 --> 00:30:24,606 Speaker 1: he definitely you know, you could say he died on 623 00:30:24,646 --> 00:30:26,486 Speaker 1: the field for a second and our medical staff was 624 00:30:26,486 --> 00:30:28,766 Speaker 1: able to bring him back. But it kind of puts, 625 00:30:28,926 --> 00:30:30,766 Speaker 1: you know, it kind of mess with my head. And 626 00:30:30,766 --> 00:30:32,726 Speaker 1: you know, I play the same position as he does. 627 00:30:33,166 --> 00:30:35,486 Speaker 1: You know, that could have been anybody and you sit 628 00:30:35,526 --> 00:30:37,126 Speaker 1: there in question. You go home that night and you 629 00:30:37,166 --> 00:30:39,646 Speaker 1: see your daughter you see your wife and it's like 630 00:30:39,646 --> 00:30:42,326 Speaker 1: like what, like what am I doing? You know it 631 00:30:42,366 --> 00:30:46,206 Speaker 1: almost I had those questions like what am I really doing? Um? 632 00:30:46,446 --> 00:30:48,606 Speaker 1: And so you know a lot of guys we had great, 633 00:30:48,846 --> 00:30:51,526 Speaker 1: great counseling on the on the team throughout the next 634 00:30:51,606 --> 00:30:54,246 Speaker 1: few months. I guess after after that happened, you know 635 00:30:54,326 --> 00:30:57,726 Speaker 1: doctor Daz, you know our chaplain, our doctor Desar, one 636 00:30:57,726 --> 00:31:00,366 Speaker 1: of our counselors, our chaplain, Len van der Boss, you know, 637 00:31:00,366 --> 00:31:03,246 Speaker 1: people who you could really talk to. Um. But it 638 00:31:03,246 --> 00:31:05,046 Speaker 1: it was tough. I'm not gonna sit here and say 639 00:31:05,046 --> 00:31:07,406 Speaker 1: that it wasn't um. You know everybody, you know, a 640 00:31:07,446 --> 00:31:09,166 Speaker 1: lot of people will sit there and say, oh, well, 641 00:31:10,046 --> 00:31:12,446 Speaker 1: you know you you make all this money, you got 642 00:31:12,446 --> 00:31:13,966 Speaker 1: to get over and play the game or whatever. But 643 00:31:14,206 --> 00:31:17,406 Speaker 1: you know that's just it's just, Um, it was tough. 644 00:31:17,526 --> 00:31:18,806 Speaker 1: And like I said at the end of the season, 645 00:31:18,846 --> 00:31:21,046 Speaker 1: I do believe that, you know, we ran out of gas. 646 00:31:21,046 --> 00:31:22,886 Speaker 1: You know, we get down fourteen zero or early against 647 00:31:22,886 --> 00:31:24,726 Speaker 1: the Bengals and we just didn't have any fight left 648 00:31:24,766 --> 00:31:27,806 Speaker 1: in us to try and make a comeback in that game. So, um, 649 00:31:28,006 --> 00:31:30,646 Speaker 1: there's no there's no moral victories or more you know, 650 00:31:30,686 --> 00:31:33,046 Speaker 1: excuses or anything. Like that. You know, you know, we 651 00:31:33,046 --> 00:31:34,766 Speaker 1: got our we got our bus kicked in that game. 652 00:31:35,286 --> 00:31:36,806 Speaker 1: But at the same time, you kind of look back 653 00:31:36,806 --> 00:31:38,886 Speaker 1: and see all the adversity that that we dealt with. 654 00:31:38,966 --> 00:31:40,326 Speaker 1: And if you were to tell me at the beginning 655 00:31:40,326 --> 00:31:42,126 Speaker 1: of the year that we would have had to deal 656 00:31:42,206 --> 00:31:45,166 Speaker 1: with that adversity and we'd still win thirteen games, come on, 657 00:31:45,326 --> 00:31:47,246 Speaker 1: I had have been like, you're crazy, you know, like 658 00:31:47,326 --> 00:31:49,766 Speaker 1: you're crazy, But that's what happened. You know, we want 659 00:31:49,766 --> 00:31:52,326 Speaker 1: to playoff game at home and then just finally, like said, 660 00:31:52,446 --> 00:31:54,246 Speaker 1: ran on the empty against it and against a better 661 00:31:54,246 --> 00:31:57,286 Speaker 1: football team on that day than in the Cincinnati Bengals. 662 00:31:57,926 --> 00:32:00,966 Speaker 1: When you when you think about the unity of this 663 00:32:01,126 --> 00:32:04,006 Speaker 1: locker room, certainly the unit of Builds Mafia, and how 664 00:32:04,046 --> 00:32:06,206 Speaker 1: the fans showed up but the community show up for it, 665 00:32:06,606 --> 00:32:08,926 Speaker 1: what does that say about the culture you guys have built, 666 00:32:08,926 --> 00:32:12,046 Speaker 1: because look, there's no preparing for something like that. But 667 00:32:12,086 --> 00:32:15,166 Speaker 1: what I was so proud of watching you guys as 668 00:32:15,166 --> 00:32:17,406 Speaker 1: a team, as a brotherhood, was the way that you 669 00:32:17,446 --> 00:32:22,526 Speaker 1: came together and it was my brother's first nothing else, right, 670 00:32:22,646 --> 00:32:25,926 Speaker 1: That's that's huge, Yeah, And I mean that's really exactly 671 00:32:25,966 --> 00:32:28,566 Speaker 1: what we have since twenty seventeen. Since you know, guys 672 00:32:28,566 --> 00:32:32,806 Speaker 1: like Dion Dawkins, Micah High, Endevious White, Matt Melano, you know, 673 00:32:32,886 --> 00:32:36,446 Speaker 1: Tremaine Emmons in twenty eighteen. Um, you know myself. You 674 00:32:36,486 --> 00:32:40,206 Speaker 1: know we first there's there's not a whole lot to 675 00:32:40,246 --> 00:32:46,046 Speaker 1: do in Buffalo, so like you know, anything, way too 676 00:32:46,046 --> 00:32:48,366 Speaker 1: cold to really do anything. And so like what we 677 00:32:48,446 --> 00:32:50,166 Speaker 1: do is we hang out with each other off the 678 00:32:50,166 --> 00:32:52,646 Speaker 1: field in the off season. And I really think that 679 00:32:52,686 --> 00:32:56,446 Speaker 1: goes Um, that plays effect into you know, how you 680 00:32:56,526 --> 00:32:58,646 Speaker 1: communicate on the field, how you played to get that 681 00:32:58,686 --> 00:33:01,726 Speaker 1: togetherness on the football field. So we were a close 682 00:33:01,806 --> 00:33:03,526 Speaker 1: group of guy. We still are. You know, we're just 683 00:33:03,806 --> 00:33:05,446 Speaker 1: a closed group of guy. As a lot of guys 684 00:33:05,486 --> 00:33:07,126 Speaker 1: at my wedding, you know, I'm at a lot of 685 00:33:07,126 --> 00:33:09,806 Speaker 1: the other guy's weddings, and um, you know, we could 686 00:33:09,846 --> 00:33:12,286 Speaker 1: talk about, you know, stuff off the fields to each 687 00:33:12,326 --> 00:33:14,806 Speaker 1: other and it was a brotherhood. And it was like, yes, 688 00:33:14,926 --> 00:33:16,366 Speaker 1: when d him went down, it was like when you 689 00:33:16,406 --> 00:33:18,806 Speaker 1: see when of your brothers go down. It was it 690 00:33:18,846 --> 00:33:20,766 Speaker 1: was hard. You know, it was hard on on a 691 00:33:20,766 --> 00:33:22,966 Speaker 1: lot of guys, some guys harder than some guys. That 692 00:33:23,086 --> 00:33:26,126 Speaker 1: was harder on than others. Um but we we we 693 00:33:26,286 --> 00:33:29,246 Speaker 1: wrapped our arms around each other. Um. You know, we 694 00:33:29,246 --> 00:33:31,806 Speaker 1: were all in together, all in the you know, for 695 00:33:31,846 --> 00:33:34,486 Speaker 1: the same thing, for the same reasons. And you know 696 00:33:34,526 --> 00:33:36,566 Speaker 1: we loved when we we love one another. And that's why, 697 00:33:36,726 --> 00:33:38,366 Speaker 1: you know, that was why one of the reasons why 698 00:33:38,406 --> 00:33:41,526 Speaker 1: I played hurt all season long was because I loved 699 00:33:41,566 --> 00:33:43,286 Speaker 1: my brothers and I didn't you know, I didn't want 700 00:33:43,286 --> 00:33:46,286 Speaker 1: to let them down. Um, and you know it was 701 00:33:46,806 --> 00:33:49,406 Speaker 1: I don't regret it at all. And that's just that's 702 00:33:49,406 --> 00:33:51,486 Speaker 1: just what we built out there. It was just a 703 00:33:51,566 --> 00:33:53,806 Speaker 1: culture that we that we built and you know they're 704 00:33:53,806 --> 00:33:55,886 Speaker 1: going to continue to build it. So let me ask 705 00:33:55,886 --> 00:33:58,126 Speaker 1: you this when you guys are off the field, because 706 00:33:58,126 --> 00:34:01,046 Speaker 1: I don't and I'm covering the game, right, there are 707 00:34:01,086 --> 00:34:02,966 Speaker 1: times where I'm like, I need to do something as 708 00:34:02,966 --> 00:34:05,766 Speaker 1: far removed from football as possib that's just real, right, 709 00:34:05,846 --> 00:34:07,846 Speaker 1: Like when you're in it all the time. So what's 710 00:34:07,886 --> 00:34:10,286 Speaker 1: something that you like to do that has nothing to 711 00:34:10,326 --> 00:34:13,606 Speaker 1: do with the NFL? Like? Is it gaming? Is it travel? 712 00:34:13,846 --> 00:34:17,006 Speaker 1: Is that food? Do you crochet? Like? Where where do 713 00:34:17,046 --> 00:34:19,606 Speaker 1: we go? And during the season, it is hard to 714 00:34:19,726 --> 00:34:23,046 Speaker 1: kind of detach for sure from football, especially in the 715 00:34:23,486 --> 00:34:25,886 Speaker 1: city at Buffalo, you know, everywhere you go, you know, 716 00:34:27,286 --> 00:34:30,926 Speaker 1: yeah that Bills fans and so me a golf golf 717 00:34:30,966 --> 00:34:35,006 Speaker 1: a lot. It's very end Yeah, very very very zend um. 718 00:34:35,046 --> 00:34:37,446 Speaker 1: You know, it's hard when when the course is shut 719 00:34:37,486 --> 00:34:41,206 Speaker 1: down in October, right, there's no more golf. Um. So 720 00:34:41,286 --> 00:34:43,806 Speaker 1: I am a big gamer, um call of duty guy. 721 00:34:43,886 --> 00:34:46,846 Speaker 1: But um, you know I've said that in a couple 722 00:34:47,166 --> 00:34:49,646 Speaker 1: on my podcasts too. You know, when you're you're planning 723 00:34:49,686 --> 00:34:52,966 Speaker 1: to see like Buffalo, it is hard to detach yourself 724 00:34:53,006 --> 00:34:56,726 Speaker 1: from football because everywhere you go is football. You know, 725 00:34:56,766 --> 00:34:59,326 Speaker 1: everywhere you go is Buffalo Bills. Everywhere you go, people 726 00:34:59,366 --> 00:35:01,406 Speaker 1: know you, people want to talk to you, people want 727 00:35:01,406 --> 00:35:03,326 Speaker 1: pictures with you, and that's you know, that's all fine, 728 00:35:03,366 --> 00:35:06,086 Speaker 1: but it's really hard to detach yourself from the game 729 00:35:06,126 --> 00:35:08,446 Speaker 1: of football when you're out there. But in the off season, yeah, 730 00:35:08,566 --> 00:35:11,046 Speaker 1: I'm a big golfer, big gamer. I love to be 731 00:35:11,366 --> 00:35:13,046 Speaker 1: on the water, not in the water. I love to 732 00:35:13,086 --> 00:35:17,166 Speaker 1: be on the water. There's a different, big difference in 733 00:35:17,366 --> 00:35:21,206 Speaker 1: being on the water in the water. So yeah, that's 734 00:35:21,446 --> 00:35:23,406 Speaker 1: that's my off season and I enjoy it a lot. 735 00:35:23,686 --> 00:35:25,526 Speaker 1: I love that. Well, I'm excited that you get to 736 00:35:25,566 --> 00:35:27,406 Speaker 1: be here at Super Bowl weekend, but we got to 737 00:35:27,406 --> 00:35:29,806 Speaker 1: spend some time with you. Really appreciate you. And look, 738 00:35:29,846 --> 00:35:31,646 Speaker 1: I've picked the Bills to go to the super Bowl 739 00:35:31,686 --> 00:35:34,606 Speaker 1: the last two seasons. And full disclosure, I told you 740 00:35:34,646 --> 00:35:36,606 Speaker 1: I was a Miami girl. I'm a dolphinspan so that 741 00:35:36,766 --> 00:35:39,126 Speaker 1: is saying a lot of what I think about your team. 742 00:35:41,286 --> 00:35:44,646 Speaker 1: I picked us too, but I'm sorry, but I appreciate 743 00:35:44,686 --> 00:35:48,766 Speaker 1: you having me on and I thank you. M Jay 744 00:35:49,126 --> 00:35:52,766 Speaker 1: crushing it. It doesn't matter where you are, you crush it. 745 00:35:53,046 --> 00:35:55,966 Speaker 1: Get the guests, you get them to engage and talk, 746 00:35:56,166 --> 00:35:59,246 Speaker 1: and you make them feel like familiar right, And that's 747 00:35:59,246 --> 00:36:02,086 Speaker 1: what this podcast is all about. This podcast is also 748 00:36:02,166 --> 00:36:06,246 Speaker 1: about football, lots and lots of ball as well. And 749 00:36:06,406 --> 00:36:09,326 Speaker 1: now it is should we do a little drum roll 750 00:36:09,406 --> 00:36:11,486 Speaker 1: right now? And if you can hear my drum roll 751 00:36:12,686 --> 00:36:17,206 Speaker 1: table whatever it is, We've got prediction time, your favorite 752 00:36:17,246 --> 00:36:25,406 Speaker 1: part day. I love it? Okay, okay, week week sauce 753 00:36:26,486 --> 00:36:33,486 Speaker 1: fin fine, seriously, you're not gonna okay? And I listen, 754 00:36:33,486 --> 00:36:35,646 Speaker 1: do you I'm gonna stall. I can't stall, Okay, I can. 755 00:36:37,486 --> 00:36:40,686 Speaker 1: Twenty seven to twenty four is what I think the 756 00:36:40,726 --> 00:36:42,726 Speaker 1: final score is going to be and I believe that 757 00:36:42,766 --> 00:36:46,326 Speaker 1: it is going to be the Eagles who fail. They 758 00:36:46,446 --> 00:36:50,566 Speaker 1: will get another Super Bowl title. I think it's going 759 00:36:50,646 --> 00:36:54,366 Speaker 1: to be a battle in the trenches. I think that 760 00:36:54,566 --> 00:36:57,606 Speaker 1: Son Reddick is going to be chasing a hobble Patrick 761 00:36:57,646 --> 00:37:03,566 Speaker 1: Mahomes all over the field. I think that you will see, uh, 762 00:37:03,926 --> 00:37:08,366 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts really get going on the ground, and I 763 00:37:08,406 --> 00:37:11,126 Speaker 1: think DeVante Smith is going to get loose and get 764 00:37:11,126 --> 00:37:13,766 Speaker 1: a couple of touchdowns. That is what I'm going with 765 00:37:14,006 --> 00:37:17,846 Speaker 1: very specific here. So now that I've now that I've 766 00:37:18,046 --> 00:37:21,646 Speaker 1: spouted off about it, now come on, let's go. And 767 00:37:22,966 --> 00:37:26,606 Speaker 1: you know I've been I've been calling for Jalen Hurt's 768 00:37:26,806 --> 00:37:31,486 Speaker 1: MVP all season long, UM, and I think right, I 769 00:37:31,526 --> 00:37:34,526 Speaker 1: think he needs the win more just so that people 770 00:37:34,566 --> 00:37:36,886 Speaker 1: can stop with the trash talk. And yeah, I'm talking 771 00:37:36,926 --> 00:37:38,926 Speaker 1: about some much somebody all in Philly. I don't I 772 00:37:38,926 --> 00:37:41,646 Speaker 1: don't forget those headlines in the early in the first 773 00:37:41,686 --> 00:37:44,926 Speaker 1: couple of seasons, UM that he was over there. So 774 00:37:45,046 --> 00:37:48,726 Speaker 1: I you know what, fly Eagles flying. Never thought in 775 00:37:48,766 --> 00:37:51,286 Speaker 1: my life. My husband is not going to be happy 776 00:37:51,286 --> 00:37:56,366 Speaker 1: about this, UM, But I'm going with the Eagles. Guess yo, 777 00:37:57,286 --> 00:38:01,806 Speaker 1: go with the Eagles. Okay, don't come from e Chiefs fans, 778 00:38:01,886 --> 00:38:04,606 Speaker 1: y'all gotta ring not that long ago. Okay, um, yeah, 779 00:38:04,646 --> 00:38:06,126 Speaker 1: but you know what, m J. You know what you 780 00:38:06,166 --> 00:38:08,206 Speaker 1: could do though, you could say you could say Eagles 781 00:38:08,206 --> 00:38:10,846 Speaker 1: on here, and because you work multiple platforms, you could 782 00:38:10,846 --> 00:38:13,886 Speaker 1: say Chiefs. Right. This is subject to change at any 783 00:38:13,886 --> 00:38:17,726 Speaker 1: point before kickoff, Okay, any point before kickoff of Super 784 00:38:17,726 --> 00:38:21,966 Speaker 1: Bowl Sunday. Will. Wow, what a season it's been. We'll 785 00:38:21,966 --> 00:38:25,766 Speaker 1: come back and and see if we were right. Next 786 00:38:26,046 --> 00:38:29,526 Speaker 1: we'll see. Gott help us dios mio, help us out 787 00:38:30,086 --> 00:38:31,686 Speaker 1: and help us out with the podcast if you if 788 00:38:31,726 --> 00:38:34,406 Speaker 1: you like what you hear, make sure to download us. 789 00:38:34,766 --> 00:38:39,246 Speaker 1: Make sure to give us a positive review, subscribe the 790 00:38:39,286 --> 00:38:42,286 Speaker 1: whole thing. We'd love to have you. Make sure to 791 00:38:42,326 --> 00:38:45,006 Speaker 1: listen to l Huddle as we are here for you. 792 00:38:45,646 --> 00:38:49,246 Speaker 1: M J. Will this has been another l Huddle podcast. 793 00:38:49,526 --> 00:39:07,726 Speaker 1: Howdios Everybody and Huddle is a production of the NFL 794 00:39:07,846 --> 00:39:11,966 Speaker 1: in partnership with iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit 795 00:39:12,006 --> 00:39:16,246 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.