1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this week Trend episode 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: week Trend, I prefer the week trends oh reference to 3 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: a twenty five year old SNL sketch. My name is 4 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: Jack and I am thrilled to be joined by a 5 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: very talented producer musician. He's one of the very producers 6 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: of this show. It's Brian Jeffrey. 7 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 2: Really, what's going on, Jack? How you doing? 8 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: I'm doing all right, man, it's early, it's early, but yeah, 9 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: how's your weekend. I'm healed up, I'm feeling better. 10 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:45,279 Speaker 2: Oh my end. 11 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, now, my kids sick, but that's just constant, constant 12 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: state of things. 13 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:56,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, weekend was good. It was uneventful. It was It 14 00:00:56,320 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 2: was filled with the music of contemplate black male artists 15 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 2: in their forties, in the way of Danny Brown and 16 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 2: Andre three thousand, So that that was my weekend. 17 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: I didn't listen to the Danny Brown. 18 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 2: Oh it's a low voice album. He brings, he brings 19 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:20,279 Speaker 2: the drama. There's none of this hype stuff on there. Really, 20 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 2: he's very serious, he's very adult and he's going through 21 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 2: it or he's been through it so well. 22 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: We are going to talk about the Andre album in 23 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: a bit, which is a true journey. Took me on 24 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: a real journey. 25 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 2: Bro. 26 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: I've only listened to it a couple of times, but 27 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: I think it will continue to evolve into a panther. 28 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely in my rotation. 29 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, But before we get to what's happening out there, Brian, 30 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: we like to talk about something that we think is 31 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: overrated and underrated. You want to start, you want me 32 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: to kick it off. 33 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 2: I can start, just because you know yours seems you 34 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 2: know a little more thought out than mine. So for me, overrated, 35 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 2: you know, I'm torn, I'm indecisive. I put a couple 36 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 2: in here, so I'm just gonna I'm just gonna run 37 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 2: run through those. So my first overrated is birthdays for adults. 38 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with us. 39 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 2: So my partner's birthday is coming up and we're trying 40 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 2: to I'm just we're just I don't want to. Yeah, 41 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 2: I'm trying to navigate this this birthday. You know, we're 42 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 2: both old, so we don't give a shit about our birthdays. 43 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 2: But there's this nagging feeling of like some sort of 44 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 2: obligation that you need to do something or go somewhere. Yea, 45 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 2: And it's really tiresome because it's like we're just we're 46 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: just sat here like I'm I'm just I'm just a 47 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 2: lob and stuff at or like hey, you want to 48 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 2: do this, you want to go here, and it's like, 49 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 2: I mean, I guess we might as well. It's just 50 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 2: like you know, we're we're both you know, basically like 51 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 2: forty and have disposal incomes, and we just could not 52 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 2: care less about how old we are or what we 53 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 2: should be doing on our birthdays. And it's just like, 54 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 2: I don't know, I feel like that's a concept that 55 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 2: should die in like a Logan's Run esque kind of way, 56 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 2: where once you hit a certain age, you just you 57 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 2: stop getting birthdays or they're just sort of like lumped together, 58 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 2: or they're just sort of periodic. There's a holiday for. 59 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: All the people one yeah, yeah, but just like get 60 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: out of there. 61 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 2: After thirty you just have a birthday every ten years 62 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 2: or something like that. I don't know, but it's like, yeah, 63 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 2: it be helpful if culture was just like, no, that's 64 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 2: after this age, you don't get birthdays, like after. 65 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: Eighteen, what do we think after eighteen? 66 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 2: Coup work? But like I feel like people in their 67 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 2: twenties really like still get something out of. 68 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: It, Yeah, still need it. 69 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 2: It wasn't me personally, but yeah, I feel like I 70 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 2: feel like, you know, Logan's Run rules, like like thirty, 71 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 2: they hit you with the blue laser and you don't 72 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 2: get any more birthdays. 73 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: What happens in Logan's Run. I actually never watched. 74 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 2: Well you can like you can like do whatever you're born, 75 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 2: you can do whatever you want. I mean, there's I 76 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 2: have a lot of questions about Logan's Run. I actually 77 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 2: don't like that movie, but I find it fascinating because 78 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 2: there's no black people, and the house the society works 79 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 2: is real. They never they didn't flesh out the details, 80 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 2: but basically, you're born, you can live free, you don't 81 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 2: have to work, or you can bone all this stuff. 82 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 2: And then when you hit thirty, they take you to 83 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 2: the arena and they hit you with that laser or 84 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 2: whatever the fuck it is, and then you're gone. 85 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: They kill you. 86 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, they get rid of your ass man all right, 87 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 2: And you know, I don't think it's a terrible idea 88 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 2: in certain aspects. 89 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: Thirty is pretty young, but thirty is pretty young. 90 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 2: But yeah, it's it's a curious film to me. I 91 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 2: always always found it a little odd. Second thing, just 92 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 2: real quick, is new therapist because or overrated? Yeah, yeah, 93 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 2: because you're not they themselves. But the whole process of 94 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 2: not just finding one, but it's more after you found 95 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 2: one that you think is viable, the whole process of 96 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 2: catching them up on everything that's wrong with you. That 97 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 2: is the fucking pain in the ass of like where 98 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 2: do you start and then you only have an hour 99 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 2: to like start catching them up and you gotta pick. 100 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 2: It's just it's such a weird format. Me. Yeah, like, 101 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 2: especially with a new therapist, there's so much wasted time. 102 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 2: Tip to me of I wish, yeah, I wish you 103 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 2: could like do like Matrix style, just download all your 104 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 2: trauma into someone's brain so you don't have to like 105 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,239 Speaker 2: talk through it. You can just get down to brass tacks. 106 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 2: It would just it would be so nice. 107 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: If you will check your inbox. I've sent you twelve 108 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 1: single space pages. 109 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 2: Like a trauma dossier. So yeah, those are. 110 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: My overrated all right, my overrated. I got a couple too. 111 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: I got just current websites generally, I don't know that 112 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: at a certain point I just expected accepted that websites 113 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 1: were going to be bad. And that's weird because I 114 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: used to work on a website and they don't have 115 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:57,119 Speaker 1: to be broken, and they like they used to work 116 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 1: when there was a problem that people were facing, like 117 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: an article page was broken, or like ads were choking 118 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: out people's ability to like read an article, like you 119 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: would then go talk to the people who worked on 120 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: the programming side, and they would they would, you know, 121 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: try and fix that, fix that. You know. 122 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 2: It's funny, Jack, because I feel like it used to 123 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 2: be like porn sites that were jammed up with ads 124 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 2: and pop ups and stuff back in the day. Yeah, 125 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 2: now it's news sites. 126 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, we've just given up. 127 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 2: The news sites are the new porn sites because man, 128 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 2: they are just completely and it's fun. It's fun because 129 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 2: it's like it's different when you're trying to, like, I 130 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 2: don't know, watch porn for example, Like there's not a whole. 131 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:52,119 Speaker 1: Lot of many years. Let's be honest, that's what Let's say. 132 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: For instance, I don't know, you're watching porn and. 133 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 2: It's like there's no information in cotant information that that 134 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 2: site's trying to impart. It's for entertainment purposes. But yeah, 135 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 2: when you're trying to read an article and you got like, 136 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 2: oh man, I mean, we've all seen it. It's just brutal. 137 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: It's gotten so bad, it's so yeah, yeah, so that's 138 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: a mess. I feel like we've just kind of given up, 139 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: and I'm not sure. I don't know that there's a 140 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: way to fix it necessarily other than I get I 141 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: guess like the subscription sites but where you don't have 142 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: ads are more usable. But it's truly it just at 143 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: a certain point it got so bad and everyone was 144 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: just like, yeah, that's that's just like what what the 145 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: Internet is. And like a lot of times, like news 146 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: sites are like you have an ad blocker on, you 147 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: can't you can't come here, and that sucks for you. 148 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 2: Is it just the advertisements or is are there design 149 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 2: elements that are or I think. 150 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: They just stopped paying a tent like they stopped it. 151 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: Just the whole thing feels vastly understaffed. It's the Van 152 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: Vaught of it all. Also, you know, I refer to 153 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 1: frequently this article where I saw a headline on the 154 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: side of a news article that said, it's no big 155 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: secret why Van Vought no longer works in Hollywood. It 156 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 1: was a picture of Vince Vaughan. They had outsourced the 157 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: headline writing to AI, and it feels like a lot 158 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: of different things have been outsourced to AI and we're 159 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: just not acknowledging it. 160 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:39,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, it really is from different from multiple angles, like quality. 161 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 1: Drop, Yeah, the other one that's just kind of random. 162 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: But crowd scenes and movies are I just watched the 163 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:47,839 Speaker 1: movie King Richard. My family's gone through a bit of 164 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 1: a tennis thing at. 165 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 2: The moment, a bit of a will Smith, a bit of. 166 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: A will Smith phase. But the movie like ends with 167 00:09:56,120 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: a climactic crowd scene that like doesn't really make sense. 168 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: They're like leaving Venus Williams's first public match or like 169 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: her first one that like people were like, wow, she's 170 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: really good and she's sad because she ends up losing it. 171 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: It's like a rocky you know, sports movie ending rocky 172 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: shaped sports movie ending the right. But then as they leave, 173 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 1: like the empty stadium at the end, there's this crowd 174 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: of people in like an otherwise desolate landscape, like an 175 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: empty parking lot. So they've like, I don't know, it's 176 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: like car commercial, empty the landscape. But then this inexpicable 177 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: crowd that seems like there's something from like a video game, 178 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 1: are just there being like Venus, Venus, Venus over here 179 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: for an autograph, Venus. Hurrah for you, Venus. We are 180 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: your fans, Venus. I was watching with my wife. She's like, 181 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: who are wait, what's happening? Who are these people? And 182 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 1: it's like it's been a pretty solid movie to that point, 183 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: but it's just like it's the like all and the 184 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: performances by the crowd are like really bad. They don't 185 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: really make sense. They're like, like what Serena, who is 186 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: not yet a known tennis player, like gives somebody an autograph. 187 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: They're like, you two, Serena, And then she gives someone 188 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: an autograph and like someone like pumps their fist even 189 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: though they like wouldn't know who her little sister is. 190 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know. I've just been noticing this 191 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: a lot, Like, as I mentioned, we were going through 192 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: like a thriller phase. We just watched in the Line 193 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: of Fire and there's this like key scene in a 194 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: presidential campaign stop where like John Malcovich fools Clint Eastwood 195 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: with a popped balloon, and it's like part of the 196 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 1: thing that drives it is like that he's in the 197 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 1: middle of this like frantic crowd, but the crowd is 198 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 1: like doesn't make sense. It's just people in suits with 199 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: like wooden expressions on their face, just like rushing the 200 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: president for no good reason. 201 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, directing crowds must be a real pain in the ass. 202 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 2: There's just way too many, way too many particles in there. 203 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, there's too much, too much to control for. 204 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 1: But it feels it just feels like there's a huge 205 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: gap between the like writing and like conception of a 206 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: crowd scene and then like what they they are apparently 207 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: a nightmare to pull off because especially movies where we're 208 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: like rewatching things on high def and you're gonna get 209 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: just like, have you ever rewatched the movie Braveheart purpose? 210 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 2: Not on purpose? I have seen it multiple times, but 211 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 2: never of my own volition. 212 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: That was like the movie that substitute Teachers showed in 213 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: Kentucky when like with you know, I probably watch Braveheart 214 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: like multiple times through in high school. 215 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 2: Mel Gibson's historical films famously have a real problem with accuracy. 216 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: So interesting choice, Yeah exactly, But like the crowd battle scenes, 217 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: it just looks, I don't know, it looks like he 218 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: hired a hundred just dudes off the street. They're like 219 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: running into certain death. But they have like these like 220 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: smiles on their faces, like loll, Like you can see 221 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: the word loll on their faces. 222 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 2: Like, well, that's because that's because he hired them for 223 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 2: their butts, for what their butts? 224 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: Like that's true. Yeah, must show ass. You can just tell. 225 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: Some of these motherfuckers have Snapple in their bodies, like 226 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: just around there, like they. 227 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,839 Speaker 2: Just came from the fucking the craft services tent just 228 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 2: full of Snapple. 229 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: It's just so much Snapple. And they're supposed to be 230 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: like surfs in a feudal era of anyways. But yeah, 231 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 1: those are my overrated. Uh, what's your what's your underrated? Brian? 232 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 2: All right? Underrated? The did I put? Okay? First, one 233 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 2: water pressure, water pressure and just generally, like you know, 234 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 2: the modern marvel of plumbing. So I live in a 235 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 2: place where the water pressure frequently drops to an unacceptable 236 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 2: level and I have to take one of those one 237 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 2: of those showers. I don't know if you're familiar, Jack, 238 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 2: where you kind of basically have to like almost lean 239 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 2: up against a leaky wall. 240 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, you're going just cover the wall with your 241 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: body's grip over you. 242 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 2: It probably looks like some weird sexy music video from 243 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 2: the nineties. Unseatisfied? 244 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: What is he doing to that wall? Something who just 245 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: like happens on you know, my god? 246 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's it's one of those things that you 247 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 2: don't really appre and it's it's like, I'm gonna be 248 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 2: moving next year to like a new place, and it's 249 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 2: it's that's one of the things me and my partner 250 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 2: that is top of the list is water pressure. But 251 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 2: a bathroom with killer water pressure. So yeah, that's that's 252 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 2: one underrated for me. And then another tangentially related thing 253 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 2: is self imposed exile h slash solitude. So I've been 254 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 2: in basically self imposed exile for like five years. Yeah, 255 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 2: something you may not know. 256 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: After you tried to take over the government. 257 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a whole thing. But basically I've been sorting 258 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 2: my life out and just staying at home a lot, 259 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 2: and I've gotten a lot of stuff done. Yeah, I've 260 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 2: worked on my mental health, I've taken my poor credit 261 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 2: up to quite good. And yeah, just taking time for 262 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 2: yourself to the extreme doesn't have to be a terrible 263 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 2: thing at least no. Yeah, because yeah, now now I'm 264 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 2: now I'm ready to get back out there and interact 265 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 2: with people. 266 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: And yeah, not Americans, but yeah, I was gonna say 267 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: just generally, I think it's a worthy experiment for everyone 268 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: to try and take, like some time if you were 269 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: born and raised in the United States, to try and 270 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: take some time away from the United States and like 271 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: go through the like your your body may reject it at. 272 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 2: First, but it definitely does. 273 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: There will be a quietness, a quieting of the soul 274 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: that takes place, and when you come back, we'll see 275 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: things in a new light that some of the things 276 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: that you just kind of take for granted having grown 277 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: up in the United States, you like start to see 278 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: as being like weird and artificially sped up and yeah, 279 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 1: just dark impulses. But you don't have to partake in. 280 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's so many things that when you step away 281 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 2: and you come back, you're like whoa, like everything and 282 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 2: it's just like, okay, this doesn't make any sense, and 283 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 2: I just yeah, just taking away, it turns out a 284 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 2: lot of my stressors, yeah, were. 285 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: I hate. 286 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 2: I hate that this is true, but a lot of 287 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 2: my stressors kind of boiled down to America problems. Yeah, 288 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 2: because my stress levels are an all time low. The 289 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 2: range of of of strong emotions has narrowed, and I'm 290 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:01,959 Speaker 2: just I feel more balanced. Yeah, so yeah. 291 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely was somebody who in my twenties and 292 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 1: this isn't like how I come across like publicly, but 293 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: I think like privately, almost yeah, almost exclusively privately. I 294 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: was like, I'm an angry person because I'm very like 295 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: angry at myself and like very hard on myself when 296 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 1: I like fall short, and yeah, would there would be 297 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 1: uh you know, little temper tantrums I would have with myself, 298 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: like at myself, and I just like kind of taken 299 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: that for granted as like that's who I am. That's 300 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: just yeah, doesn't mean to be. 301 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 2: It really doesn't. He don't have to be like an 302 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 2: angry person. It's just yeah, finding out what what what 303 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 2: it is. That's like getting under your skin, yeah, and 304 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 2: seeing what you can do to work with that or 305 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 2: alleviate that or remove that from your life. Uh yeah, 306 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 2: it's it does wonders for your mental health. 307 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: Let's see from my underrated I have like a page 308 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: and a half on the digestive system. 309 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 2: Which I was like so on board for. 310 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,199 Speaker 1: So first of all, nothing makes you appreciate something like 311 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 1: having it just like go out on you. Like my 312 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 1: digestive system stopped Yeah, exactly, My digesticism stopped working for 313 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: a few uh last last week, and it was unpleasant. 314 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: And also the other thing that has like put this 315 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: the front and the center of my mind is one 316 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: of my kids is obsessed with the digestive systems, like 317 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: just with digest like of all, Like I find him 318 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 1: reading about digestive systems all the time, like if there's 319 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: a science book in the house about animals or like 320 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: the human body. 321 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 2: Like how do you fit that many miles of intestines 322 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 2: in a person? It's incredible? 323 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: How many? Yeah? Yeah, but he if you leave him 324 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:59,959 Speaker 1: alone with uh you know something that is attached to Google, 325 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: well you better believe he is looking at the digestive 326 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 1: system like getting all up in them guts, so to speak, 327 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: with his mind, with his curious child's mind. And like 328 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: at first, I like chalked it up to you know, 329 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,679 Speaker 1: both of my kids are I think poop is funny 330 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: and are kind of talk about poop all the time. 331 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: And I was like, this is just like a more 332 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: intellectual approach to being obsessed with poop. But I also 333 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: think that like the reason most kids and like most 334 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 1: humans find poop funny, like at our most elemental level, 335 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: like I think, you know, humor is like us realizing 336 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: something or coming to terms with something that we can't 337 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: like grasp with our conscious mind. And you know there's 338 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: like anxiety or like a magic or something that's unexamined. 339 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: But I think it's because it like deserves that attention, 340 00:20:55,600 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: Like it deserves that power. It's like a massively powerful, 341 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 1: incredible system inside of all of us that does something 342 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: that I feel like no human invention can really rival. 343 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,199 Speaker 1: Like it takes our delicious food. First of all, it 344 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: like craves exactly the food the fuel that like your 345 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 1: body needs. It's in control. You don't realize it is complete. 346 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: It's got a lot of neurons firing off down there, 347 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: It's got taste buds down in your stomach, and then 348 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: it uses chemical compounds to like turn that fuel that 349 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 1: it craves and like goes like helps you go about 350 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 1: acquiring into life. But like not in like a whimsical way. 351 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 1: It's so like wet and sloppy and like alive. It's 352 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 1: like a drive through car wash made of like blood 353 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:52,719 Speaker 1: and acid and mud and bile. And then also just 354 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 1: like from an existential like lived experience, it's the part 355 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 1: of our human experience that is most ground like you 356 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 1: feel the big important ideas like a lot of times 357 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 1: for me, it's like ideas my brain isn't ready for yet. 358 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: I feel them in my gut, you know. And like 359 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: what we today call like having feelings for someone, they 360 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 1: used to call having bowels for someone because people in 361 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: history were nasty, little shit freaks. I know exactly, I 362 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:27,439 Speaker 1: have bowls for you, baby, But it's kind of like 363 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: for me at least in my lived experience, is kind 364 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 1: of the most grounded, immovable part of my felt human experience. 365 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 1: Like when I have anxiety about something unresolved, my brain 366 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:47,959 Speaker 1: can distract itself with bullshit, but my guts, like you know, 367 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:53,959 Speaker 1: they don't untangle so easily. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. 368 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: It's interesting and yeah, so I don't know. I like 369 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: to look at the things like my ds are into 370 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: and think heavily about them. So next week you will 371 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 1: get a you know, three hour treatise on Star Wars. 372 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 1: I guess all right, those are our overrated and underrated 373 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and 374 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: talk about some news and we're bank. We're bank. Leave 375 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:36,199 Speaker 1: it all right. I've heard of Sam Bankman free, but 376 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 1: Sam Altman fired. So this is one of AI's big 377 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: dogs in the world of like the companies that are 378 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: using AI that are like fueling a big chunk of 379 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 1: the growth in the stock market. He's also kind of 380 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 1: the spokesperson. There's that Atlantic article that was extremely long 381 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 1: and basically he was like a I might kill us 382 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: all terminator style, and he was kind of the main 383 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: source in that article. It was like kind of a 384 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: feature on him. He's like going from one meeting to 385 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: another around the world just being like, yeah, it's really 386 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 1: scary man, Like it's you know, he told The New 387 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 1: Yorker that he kept a Cyanide capsule on him in 388 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 1: case of an AI takeover based like just in case, 389 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: like like an AI takeover in the style of Mitchell's 390 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: Versus the Machines or I robot is like one of 391 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: the dangers of artificial intelligence. 392 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 2: That's that's how you know this guy's a chuckle fuck. 393 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 2: It's like we literally AI literally doesn't exist yet. But 394 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 2: your car you got that thing on you? 395 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:53,959 Speaker 1: Okay, but yes, yeah, exactly, like he's. 396 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 2: Like, yeah, he. 397 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: Of all people knows. The longer this story goes, the 398 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: more it becomes clear that this was a situation. So 399 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: he was unexpectedly fired by the board of the company 400 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: open Ai. There's been stories where like five hundred of 401 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: the seven hundred employees of the company are like, if 402 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: you don't bring him back, we quit. So he's obviously 403 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 1: very popular at the company, but it seems like the 404 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: board was saying, we should pump the brakes on some 405 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: of this stuff, and he was more of a racing, 406 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: full throttle forward with just trying to develop this into 407 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 1: something that was, uh, you know, easier to make money 408 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 1: off of, which again seems is funny because. 409 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 2: Write that letter. 410 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's part of part of the letter. He's the one. 411 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: He's Sinai capsule guy. And apparently the board found out 412 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: he was like hiding things, are not being totally candid 413 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: and yeah, so Microsoft has hired him, right, yeah a 414 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 1: write up and was like, yes, he's going to lead 415 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 1: a later division of our company. And uh, I don't know, 416 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to learn more about what the nature 417 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 1: of the disagreement is. But I feel like the market 418 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: is doing the thing that we like. Anytime someone's like, well, 419 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 1: the market will figure it out, right, I'm always like, 420 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: this is this is how the market will work. It 421 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: will reward whoever is the most ambitious about making the 422 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 1: most money off of a thing in the most short 423 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: sighted way possible. 424 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, there's no altruism in capitalism. It's not 425 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 2: a fucking thing. Everybody. 426 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, it does. They would end the world, I mean, 427 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: and have shown this repeatedly with you know, fossil fuel 428 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 1: companies being at the forefront of climate change research in 429 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: the eighties and then being at the forefront of burying 430 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 1: the shit out of that. So yeah, but Microsoft said 431 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,919 Speaker 1: that mister Altman would be chief executive of the new 432 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: research Lab, setting a new pace for innovation in an 433 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 1: apparent contrast at the Open Air boards desire for caution 434 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: in developing AI technology. So we'll yeah. 435 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 2: Because Microsoft was so so thirsty to get their AI 436 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 2: tools out, their little co pilot thing, they're going full 437 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 2: steam ahead, and yeah, I'm sure they're glad they have 438 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,400 Speaker 2: on somebody who's let's it say, they're trying to race 439 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 2: full throttle. 440 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: Forward, Yeah, into the breach. 441 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,360 Speaker 2: So it seems like a good match. 442 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm happy for them. 443 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 2: I love that for them, love that for us. 444 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 1: Who cares about us? As long as Microsoft makes money, 445 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: you know that'll be fun, all right? Brian, you are 446 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:59,439 Speaker 1: a musician. I it's you were a musician temporarily on hiatus. 447 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 1: But I missed the episodes where you guys talked about 448 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 1: Andre's new album, Oh. 449 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, your Digestive System. 450 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 1: It was I was busy thinking about my digestive system. 451 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: But Andrea dropped an album that when I first listened 452 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 1: to it, I was like, this is spa music. But 453 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: then like, there would be these moments where I was like, God, 454 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 1: that would be like so cool if someone like sampled that, 455 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 1: like wrapped over it and turned it into the type 456 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: of music I like. But as the album went on, 457 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 1: and as I listened to it a second time, I 458 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: was like, I he has transcended rap music and death 459 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 1: and the only true form is flute. Here. It's it's trippy, 460 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: it's it's very interesting. It's definitely not the type of 461 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: shit that I would normally be listening to. My wife 462 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: found me listening to it was like, what are you 463 00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: listening to? 464 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 2: Oh? Nothing? Nothing like getting walking on while you're doing 465 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 2: some new age. 466 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: I was shirtless with one cloth on, sitting in Indian style. Yeah, 467 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: but what what are your what are your thoughts? How 468 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: did it kind of compare to your expectations? 469 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 2: So my first listen, and yeah, expectations is an important word, 470 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 2: because I had a not dissimilar reaction from you. Of 471 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 2: I didn't go immediately to Spa music, but I was 472 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 2: there was this whole battle in my head of when 473 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 2: it first came on, and it has those really nice 474 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 2: little chords going, and I was like, My first thought 475 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 2: was like, Yo, you chopped this up, right, you chopped 476 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 2: this up. You got a beat going. And I was like, 477 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 2: and after maybe like ten minutes, you know, letting the 478 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 2: song develop, that left my mind and I started to 479 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 2: become absorbed in the music itself. Another thought that crossed 480 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 2: my mind in the first track was this reminds me 481 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 2: of music from Zelda, from the last two Zelda games, 482 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 2: like when you're going like when you're chilling in you know, 483 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,719 Speaker 2: for my Zelda heads, when you're chilling in Latino Village 484 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 2: just just to hang out with all the lovely people there, 485 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 2: and that feeling you get of peace when you're in 486 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 2: Jatino Village that's kind of what it reminded me of too, 487 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 2: And then all of that gradually melted away as the 488 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 2: album developed, and I started to sort of accept it 489 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 2: as it is on its own terms and sort of 490 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 2: forgetting that it's made by this, you know, one of 491 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 2: the greatest rappers of all time. And yeah, just it 492 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 2: ended up being what I think is just a really 493 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 2: earnest expression and a good genre piece. Like it's solid 494 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 2: ambient ish music. There's like an element of like free 495 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 2: jazz and you know, like Alice Coletraine type stuff. But yeah, 496 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 2: i'd put it firmly in the ambient camp and not 497 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 2: like eno ambient. But yeah, it's it's great. I went 498 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 2: and got a massage on Friday the day came. 499 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: That's the real test. That's what I'm gonna this is. 500 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: This has to be good for the massage business. Just 501 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: a round a Aaronae. 502 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 2: That's what I just said of, you know, about it 503 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 2: being like this thing. Yeah, I did go to the 504 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 2: spa immediately, literally almost immediately, and got a ninety minute 505 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 2: massage and listened to the whole album and it was 506 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 2: it was fit for purpose. Let me tell you it 507 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 2: was great. It was. It was a fantastic audio journey 508 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 2: for a massage and just sort of like letting your 509 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 2: mind just go like where it wants to. 510 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good. It's a good just kind of 511 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 1: doing nothing. You know, if you're into meditation, this is 512 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: probably a good one to fuck with. 513 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, just sitting peacefully staring out the window, staring at 514 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 2: the ceiling. 515 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's take another quick break. We'll come back. 516 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 1: We'll tell you what Snoop was really meaning when he 517 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: said he's giving up smoke. We'll be right back, and 518 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 1: we're back, And a lot of the stories in this 519 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 1: section can be summed up by the noise Brian may 520 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: as we were going to break. So, first of all, 521 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:53,239 Speaker 1: a well executed marketing stunt, Snoop saying I'm giving up 522 00:32:53,280 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 1: smoke please, but doing a kind of note perfect recreation 523 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 1: of what it would look like if he was actually 524 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: saying I have a problem please, Like, because he asked 525 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 1: to for people to respect us privacy this time, at 526 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: this time, him and his family's privacy. And it has 527 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 1: been revealed that this was part of It's not even 528 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl ad. It's just like a an ad. 529 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: He said, Uh, the only thing because I think we've 530 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 1: been saying that we suspected it was going to be 531 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: for a vape product or like a gummy's product or 532 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: something like that. And the only thing we were wrong 533 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 1: about is it's not a weed It's not for a 534 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 1: weed product. It's for basically a gas fireplace, like a 535 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: little smokeless fireplace. 536 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 2: It's like a little trash can you can set of 537 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 2: fire in your back. 538 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, miniature trash can. 539 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 2: A miniature trash can that you and your barbershop quartet 540 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 2: can sing around when it gets cold at night. 541 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: Yes, that you have the fingerless gloves and a little 542 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: bendal yeah, little bendlestick, and that you're unshaven to the 543 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 1: right degree. Yes, you can warm your little hands around 544 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 1: this fire and sing doo up. But a lot of 545 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: people are like this was well played, and a lot 546 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: of other people are like, I'm so tired. That's what 547 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: it feels like to me. It just feels like, you know, 548 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 1: capitalism is good at capitalism, you know, like there's just 549 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 1: there's always this is what the you know, top grads 550 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 1: from some of America's and you know other countries humanitarian 551 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: humanities programs go into. 552 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:50,320 Speaker 2: Is like in the world they're working in advertising marketing 553 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 2: exactly straight up, and they're making your shampoo, yes. 554 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,720 Speaker 1: And they're calculating the best mouth feel for junk food, 555 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: so you can't stop you. Yeah, that's or they're working 556 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 1: in fucking you know, hedge funds and other markets and 557 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 1: shit like that. I don't know if that's true anymore. 558 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,959 Speaker 1: It definitely was true ten years ago. I do feel 559 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 1: like people have like been like fuck this at a 560 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: certain point, So hopefully we stop with everybody just going 561 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: into the worst possible industries. But yeah, it's hard to 562 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 1: be mad at Snoop. 563 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like Snoop, especially in you know, the last 564 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:35,800 Speaker 2: ten years. Snoop doesn't do anything unless there's a check involved, 565 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 2: and it doesn't really seem to matter, like where the 566 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 2: check is coming from. Like he just likes to get paid, 567 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 2: and he will pull up for paycheck, yeah, full stop. 568 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. 569 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,800 Speaker 2: And you look at him here in his picture roasting 570 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,800 Speaker 2: his little marshmallow over his trash can, and he looks 571 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 2: so happy and stoned. 572 00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:58,959 Speaker 1: That's right, Like when. 573 00:35:58,880 --> 00:35:59,879 Speaker 2: That wire hit the bank. 574 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 1: Can we get the moment when the wire hit the 575 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 1: bank account in this ad? All right? 576 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:06,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? 577 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:11,280 Speaker 1: Perfect? Yeah, he also lights the marshmallow on fire, which 578 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,319 Speaker 1: will cause smoke. But that's other than that. 579 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 2: You know, yeah, you're gonna get a little I mean, 580 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 2: but hey, you want a little carbonation on the marshmallow, Yeah, 581 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 2: a little bit. 582 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 1: Another news story that kind of made me tired was 583 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:28,720 Speaker 1: this Bill Clinton fucking up the memorial statement for Rosalind Carter. 584 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 1: Roslynd Carter, won half of the longest lived presidential couple 585 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:38,240 Speaker 1: in American history, died on Sunday, and she was ninety six. 586 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,919 Speaker 1: Jimmy Carter, who went into hospice almost a year ago, 587 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: is still alive. But Bill Clinton like posted a statement 588 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,720 Speaker 1: He's like Rosalind Carter was the embodiment of a life 589 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 1: lived with purpose. Mine Hillary's full statement, and then it 590 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 1: was a jpeg of their statement for the passing of 591 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 1: Dianne Feinstein. So his people just got two different dead 592 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 1: elderly women confused uploaded the statement that had already been 593 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 1: posted about Feinstein, was deleted obviously replaced with the correct statement. 594 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 1: But like, I don't know, it's just one of those 595 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 1: things that's like just imagining the machinations of the behind 596 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 1: the scene of like all right, post the state, you know, 597 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 1: he process. 598 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 2: This is why This is why you don't let Bill 599 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 2: manage his on Twitter. 600 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 1: Right, I can't imagine it was, but like what it 601 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 1: was even doing here? He has like a staff with 602 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 1: various statements on deck for deaths of famous people, and it's. 603 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,360 Speaker 2: Just hasn't hasn't this happened before? I feel like this 604 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 2: happened before, like maybe years ago, a year or two ago, 605 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 2: like somebody died, and I feel like this is just 606 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,799 Speaker 2: a thing that politicians do, especially like when there's like 607 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 2: you know, like a shooting or something. It's like they 608 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 2: have these copy paste things. Just they have a folder 609 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 2: of oh, here's the statement for a shooting. Here's a 610 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:03,359 Speaker 2: statement for when an old senator dies, here's yeah. 611 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 1: It's just yeah there. I mean, news agencies for sure 612 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 1: all have like obituaries for most famous people on deck. 613 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,360 Speaker 1: And then like I remember when I worked at ABC 614 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 1: News when I was you know, right out of school. 615 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 1: They I think the Pope, I think it was the 616 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:28,879 Speaker 1: Pope died and they you know, had one on deck, 617 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:30,440 Speaker 1: but like you had to like make sure that he 618 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,359 Speaker 1: was actually dead before you posted it. And you know, 619 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 1: they have like an entire TV package on deck, and 620 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 1: like sometimes they accidentally run it before somebody has died, 621 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 1: and then people are like, wait a second, but yeah, 622 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:49,400 Speaker 1: I don't know the fact that also the Clintons have 623 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:54,400 Speaker 1: like these statements drafted for deaths, and it's just like 624 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 1: such a dry, rote pointless exercise in like in humanity 625 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:03,319 Speaker 1: and for what, like are people sitting around waiting for 626 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 1: Bill Clinton's thoughts on this? 627 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe they obligations or and you know, the quorum 628 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 2: are weird. Yeah, and they don't really make a whole 629 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 2: lot of sense a lot of the time. Yeah, of like, yeah, 630 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 2: we're not checking for you, but I mean, you gotta 631 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:23,880 Speaker 2: like you're part of this institution, so I get it 632 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 2: that you gotta make a statement because you're a former 633 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 2: president that's alive, I guess. But yeah, a little more 634 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:39,279 Speaker 2: effort maybe, right, Yeah, maybe yeah, maybe get the name right, putting. 635 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 1: More staff on them. 636 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:41,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe get the name right. 637 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:43,920 Speaker 1: That'll be funny if they reposted it. But it was 638 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 1: just like control all control, f like for a place 639 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:50,319 Speaker 1: the exact same thing. 640 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,359 Speaker 2: Oh good, all right. 641 00:39:53,400 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 1: SpaceX had their second starship tests launch kind of losing track. 642 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:06,799 Speaker 1: You know, I've seen footage of uh SpaceX starships that 643 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 1: launch and land and successfully I guess these are these 644 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,919 Speaker 1: are the ones that are they're testing because they're going 645 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:19,400 Speaker 1: to make the Moon mission. So this is the second 646 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 1: after the first one like blew up right after it 647 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 1: took off, and they were like, yes, that is what 648 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:28,320 Speaker 1: we meant to do. They did like the rocketry equivalent 649 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 1: of like tripping and breaking into a light jog to 650 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,840 Speaker 1: pretend like that's what you didn't trip and you meant 651 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 1: to do that. Yeah. 652 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 2: There. It's like there's a mandate that they're not allowed 653 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 2: to have like failures or failure is part of the 654 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:44,719 Speaker 2: plan or something. 655 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, they they're meant to fail every time. So that 656 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 1: another successful launch on over the weekend, because once again 657 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 1: the ship blew up just minutes after launch, but it 658 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 1: improved on the previous launch. Still ended in literal disaster. 659 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,720 Speaker 2: It improved on the previous launch by exploding. 660 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,240 Speaker 1: Later exactly that's exactly. 661 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:12,440 Speaker 2: Right, didn't explode immediately, So this is progress. 662 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,480 Speaker 1: It illustrated that they had fixed key issues from the 663 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:21,879 Speaker 1: last test. This person astro Geordy Jordan a blue check mark. 664 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,479 Speaker 1: You will be shocked to learn response to the Verge 665 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,960 Speaker 1: article being like you forgot to mention that everything that 666 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 1: went wrong in the first test flight from a few 667 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,919 Speaker 1: months ago went right. Today we expect explosions and during 668 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,840 Speaker 1: these test flights, we are okay with them. SpaceX is 669 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:39,400 Speaker 1: making history no matter what, and they're doing incredible work. 670 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 2: Now, Astro Jordy, first off, get off the nut sex. 671 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 2: You don't even go here, like. 672 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 1: That's what I So I looked it up. I was like, oh, 673 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 1: that's such a weird and articulate statement from somebody who 674 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 1: works for SpaceX. 675 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 2: You know you have Astro in your name. I'm like, 676 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 2: there's no way you work for sucking face X, sir. 677 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay. According to his Twitter handle he or his 678 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 1: Twitter bio, he's just a h what what's the what's 679 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:14,520 Speaker 1: the truck? The the cyber He's just a cyber truck fanboy. 680 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,640 Speaker 2: And uh oh you're a fan of this thing that 681 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:22,279 Speaker 2: doesn't exist. Okay, cool, and that that that gives you 682 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 2: an opinion on literal rocket science. 683 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, but so the rocket of the booster separate. But 684 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,840 Speaker 1: I do love the invocation. You know, sports fans do this, 685 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 1: so I'm not gonna be too hard on him. But 686 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,560 Speaker 1: it's the same energy this and we are on course. 687 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,799 Speaker 1: It's just like such, you are not going to the moon. 688 00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 2: Sir, you don't have. 689 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:48,400 Speaker 1: To take He is doing this specifically to leave you behind. 690 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 2: He's like he's vying for like a test subject physician 691 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,440 Speaker 2: in one any of Elon's company. Hey, bro, you can 692 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 2: put a chip in me. You can send me to 693 00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:58,719 Speaker 2: the moon, you can send me on a rocket to 694 00:42:58,800 --> 00:42:59,719 Speaker 2: the Sun. I don't care. 695 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:04,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, So they were hoping for a water landing instead 696 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:10,800 Speaker 1: the booster separated, then exploded, and the starship actually reached 697 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 1: space this time, and then they lost contact with a 698 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 1: ship just minutes after launch, and apparently it exploded too 699 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 1: after the automated flight termination system triggered. So that's like 700 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:31,920 Speaker 1: they have an automated like will self destruct in five seconds. 701 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,359 Speaker 1: But so people just kept referring to this as like, well, 702 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,200 Speaker 1: this is all about the cultural differences between SpaceX and 703 00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:43,480 Speaker 1: traditional NASA engineering, because NASA like will always design things 704 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:49,239 Speaker 1: to perfection before testing them out, and SpaceX says their 705 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:54,200 Speaker 1: motto is build, test, break, repeat. I don't know, I 706 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,000 Speaker 1: think that's I don't I don't know enough about like 707 00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:58,800 Speaker 1: these systems are like that. 708 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:03,719 Speaker 2: Well remember the Challenger disaster, right, So that was back 709 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:10,160 Speaker 2: when NASA got a little cavalier with their testing methodology right, 710 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 2: and then a school teacher blew up along with like 711 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:18,799 Speaker 2: five or six other people. So yeah, after that, you know, 712 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 2: it's like NASA was very They're all about their testing 713 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:24,440 Speaker 2: and then they're like, you know what, we got this. 714 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,480 Speaker 2: We've been to the moon a few times. We're good. 715 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,960 Speaker 2: Eighties came around, they had a disaster. 716 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,239 Speaker 1: Have you guys seen Apollo thirteen. I know it's not 717 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 1: out yet, but like, we're NASA, We've seen it. That's 718 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,960 Speaker 1: we can't fuck up. We're invincible. And yeah, no, they 719 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,440 Speaker 1: knew that. That shit. Like there was a big panel 720 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,880 Speaker 1: of people who were in charge of like making the 721 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,120 Speaker 1: decision of whether or not to launch the Challenger, and 722 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 1: a majority of them knew that what happened to the 723 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,480 Speaker 1: Challenger had a very good chance of happening ring. 724 00:44:55,480 --> 00:45:00,160 Speaker 2: It was totally they they were they had a they 725 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:04,120 Speaker 2: had a fucking clue before it happened. Yeah, and yeah, 726 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,719 Speaker 2: that's that's what happens when you are cavalier with with 727 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:15,040 Speaker 2: safety in inhospitable environments and situations like going deep into 728 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,400 Speaker 2: the ocean to see the Titanic, or going into space, 729 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 2: or lighting a massive explosion underneath you and sending it 730 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,239 Speaker 2: out to a tiny little butthole at the bottom of 731 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 2: a rocket. Cool, like they like to move fast and 732 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:35,880 Speaker 2: break things. They're taking that tech ethos into a space, 733 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,360 Speaker 2: well part in the pun, into a space where I 734 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:45,600 Speaker 2: don't really think it belongs. But you know he's got 735 00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:49,160 Speaker 2: he's got the capital and the clout and to do 736 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:53,480 Speaker 2: this sort of thing. And NASA's backing private industries going 737 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,080 Speaker 2: to space because they don't get enough funding to do 738 00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:57,360 Speaker 2: it themselves exactly. 739 00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's in fashion for us to be like 740 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:02,359 Speaker 1: the market will figure it out. 741 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,120 Speaker 2: Plus it's like, you know, if something goes wrong, you know, 742 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:10,960 Speaker 2: NASA doesn't have to take this scrutiny. Yeah a rocket 743 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:11,680 Speaker 2: blows up. 744 00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, by the way, thank you for putting the you know, 745 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:23,560 Speaker 1: physics of rocketry into the terms of a digestive system 746 00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,480 Speaker 1: where the rocket is just farting itself into space. That 747 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,120 Speaker 1: that was helpful for my purposes. 748 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, how do you how do you how 749 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:34,040 Speaker 2: do you fart fire without exploding yourself? 750 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,719 Speaker 1: I ask myself that every day. But also so like 751 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,239 Speaker 1: I can't identify I can't say whether it's like a 752 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:45,640 Speaker 1: good strategy, like whether they're identifying more potential flaws then 753 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:50,000 Speaker 1: NASA would be with its pencil neck math or whatever 754 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,239 Speaker 1: it does. But it does seem like it will be 755 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,040 Speaker 1: a little scarier to go up in one of these 756 00:46:56,160 --> 00:47:01,160 Speaker 1: rockets once they've got it figured out. Like this is 757 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:05,320 Speaker 1: a private enterprise. If Delta Airlines method for introducing a 758 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,279 Speaker 1: new aircraft was to like blow a bunch of them 759 00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,759 Speaker 1: up in highly public test plates before you boarded one 760 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,880 Speaker 1: a decade later, I feel like people would be like, 761 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:20,840 Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna like fly American or whatever. This scary. 762 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:22,440 Speaker 1: I'm scared now, But. 763 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,479 Speaker 2: I mean, this is this is how he does things. 764 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,359 Speaker 2: Is like, I mean you can you have to look 765 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,680 Speaker 2: at Tesla's to see it's like, yeah, you don't need 766 00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:33,279 Speaker 2: like a fully working, viable product that does everything it 767 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,680 Speaker 2: says on the tin to sell a shit zillion of them. 768 00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:41,799 Speaker 2: Yeah too, whoever the fuck is really vying for them, 769 00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:47,320 Speaker 2: because it's like, yeah, that that car is not no 770 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,040 Speaker 2: matter how you feel about it, that car is not 771 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:53,880 Speaker 2: what was fucking promised, no at all. So yeah, I 772 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,080 Speaker 2: don't want to see the finished I don't want to 773 00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:57,160 Speaker 2: be on the finished product. 774 00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:01,080 Speaker 1: So don't tell that to astro Jordi. The problems with 775 00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,680 Speaker 1: the cyber truck are exactly what we had in mind. 776 00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,319 Speaker 2: And it's also like design stuff like you ever tried 777 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:07,240 Speaker 2: to get in a Tesla? 778 00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:11,320 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like the like the what the fuck is that? 779 00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,000 Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, this innovation didn't need to happen. You 780 00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,919 Speaker 2: try and drive a Tesla, Like, what is that yoke 781 00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,800 Speaker 2: where it's got like five hundred and forty degree rotation 782 00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,920 Speaker 2: but you can only hold it on two sides? That 783 00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:28,600 Speaker 2: doesn't make sense, like at all, the yoke. I'm not 784 00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:30,280 Speaker 2: like those weird steering wheels. 785 00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,520 Speaker 1: They have the steering wheels that don't have the They 786 00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:33,360 Speaker 1: do the full. 787 00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,680 Speaker 2: Steering wheel turn, but there's no top and bottom, so 788 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:39,319 Speaker 2: you have to awkwardly like and it's like you make 789 00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:42,960 Speaker 2: the turning radius shorter if you have a yoke, or 790 00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,719 Speaker 2: you put in a real steering wheel. You don't mix 791 00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:46,400 Speaker 2: those things. 792 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,480 Speaker 1: It's the future. It feels like the future, And. 793 00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,320 Speaker 2: I'm like, what's his what is like? What are the 794 00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,320 Speaker 2: quality of life features gonna be in this fucking rocket? 795 00:48:56,560 --> 00:49:01,080 Speaker 2: Like it is the rocket gonna have a steering wheel? 796 00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:03,440 Speaker 2: Because that doesn't make sense. 797 00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:09,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're just like doing three point turns. Yeah yeah, 798 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,880 Speaker 1: So I don't know, we'll see I generally have a 799 00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:17,640 Speaker 1: hard time believing that this philosophy of just like blowing 800 00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:23,840 Speaker 1: massive amounts of metal and jet fuel up and pretending 801 00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:27,960 Speaker 1: it's what you intended to do. And also like, because 802 00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,400 Speaker 1: of the ties to NASA, pressure has been put on 803 00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,480 Speaker 1: the FAA and the US Fish and Wildlife Service to 804 00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:37,600 Speaker 1: just say that if these test launchers are okay, which 805 00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,760 Speaker 1: they do despite incidents of flaming debris landing in public 806 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:42,640 Speaker 1: wildlife preserves, Like. 807 00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it's just like, oh my god. Yeah, it's 808 00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:50,800 Speaker 2: like they've already like Floyd has already given him a 809 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:55,040 Speaker 2: free pass. Basically, they've already set it up that when 810 00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:59,080 Speaker 2: one of these you know, second stage rockets lands on 811 00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:04,080 Speaker 2: someone's fucking condo, that he will not have to answer 812 00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:04,480 Speaker 2: for it. 813 00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,560 Speaker 1: They'll just drop a glass dome over it. I feel 814 00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:12,439 Speaker 1: like that's that's where it will happen, meant that. Yeah, 815 00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,640 Speaker 1: And actually we're cutting all these people off not for 816 00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:21,359 Speaker 1: to kill them and replace them, but because we want 817 00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:26,719 Speaker 1: to study them because it's helpful to future launches. All Right, 818 00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,200 Speaker 1: those are some of the things that we're trending over 819 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:32,560 Speaker 1: the weekend that are trending this Monday morning. We are 820 00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,640 Speaker 1: back tomorrow with a whole ass episode of the show. 821 00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:39,440 Speaker 1: Until then, be kind to each other, be kind to yourselves, 822 00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,480 Speaker 1: get the vaccine, don't do nothing about white supremacy, and 823 00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:44,680 Speaker 1: we will talk to you all tomorrow. Fighte bye.