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Speaker 1: Because I think for some people what can happen is

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Speaker 1: because they're doing zoom for work in school, and then

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Speaker 1: we say okay, as a family, we're gonna get on zoom.

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Speaker 1: People who are experiencing this zoom exhaustion, they're gonna.

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Speaker 5: Say, nah, I'm good, I don't want I'm opting.

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Speaker 1: Out because it feels like a continuation of school and work,

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Speaker 4: Today's episode is sure to provide you with motivation, inspiration,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to her Space, a podcast dedicated to uplifting women

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Speaker 1: like you. We're your costs Doctor Dominique Broussard, a college

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Speaker 4: Happy Friday, lady, It's Mother's Day weekend, and we know

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Speaker 4: that we are all at home, so hopefully you have

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Speaker 4: a great Mother's Day weekend and you find a way

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Speaker 4: want to take a moment to just acknowledge the amazing

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Speaker 1: Yes, and today's episode is sure to come in handy

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Speaker 1: as you think about your Mother's Day plans this weekend,

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Speaker 1: so be sure to listen and write down those tips. So, T,

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Speaker 4: I'm ready to dive in, girl. I'm excited that we

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Speaker 5: Yes, all right.

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Speaker 1: So our quote of the day, imagine if you go

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Speaker 1: Now was everyone were you? Did you have to stand up?

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Speaker 4: Yes, and they're super cheap, domb I can't remember exactly

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Speaker 4: No, So kahout is I'm gonna go ahead and type

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna say anxiety inducing music, but only because I'm

439
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Speaker 4: competitive and when I hear that fast music, it makes

440
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Speaker 4: me like anxious, but it's fun. So it's just like

441
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Speaker 4: fast music. Right, So you got the fast music, you

442
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Speaker 4: have the game, and then they choose winners at the

443
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Speaker 4: end based on who gets the most questions right and

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Speaker 4: they answer the fastest. Now, the cool thing is with

445
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Speaker 4: khoot you can do it on your computer, on your phone.

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Speaker 4: So what I had everyone do in the training as

447
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Speaker 4: we're in zoom, I had them pull out the phone,

448
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Speaker 4: go to the special site and then we did it

449
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Speaker 4: and it was really cool.

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Speaker 5: Oh that sounds exciting.

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Speaker 1: That definitely sounds like a way to like break up

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Speaker 1: some of the monotony in a world meeting that I

453
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Speaker 1: think can is also part of what leads people to

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Speaker 1: feel exhausted because it feels monotonous, right, And so if

455
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Speaker 1: it's feeling monotonous and it's physically draining you to sit

456
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Speaker 1: and be look at the screen and try to focus

457
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Speaker 1: your energy on the person who's speaking, I could see

458
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Speaker 1: where people get easily can be easily distracted, easily want

459
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Speaker 1: to disengage and then walk away and say I'm done

460
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Speaker 1: with this, like I'm tied of Zoom.

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Speaker 4: Yes, So, Lady Dom and I want to share something

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Speaker 4: with you. We have a very exciting virtual event coming

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Speaker 4: up on May twenty fifth at ten am Pacific Standard time,

464
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Speaker 4: that'll be one pm Eastern time. And here's the thing.

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Speaker 4: If you visit our Instagram at her Space podcast and

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Speaker 4: you click the link in our bio, you can enter

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Speaker 4: your email address and we'll send you more information and

468
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Speaker 4: we'll send you the actual Zoom link so that you

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Speaker 4: can join us live. Our goal is actually going to

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Speaker 4: be a Memorial Day, so many of us should be off.

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Speaker 4: Our goal is to connect with you on a deeper level.

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Speaker 4: And Dime, I don't know about you, but we've been

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Speaker 4: seeing the downloads. We have hundreds of thousands of amazing

474
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Speaker 4: women and men as well that listen to the podcast

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Speaker 4: and we want to connect with you. But I don't know, domb.

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Speaker 4: I feel like usually when we go live and even

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Speaker 4: on Instagram, we don't really see a lot of faces there.

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Speaker 1: No, we don't, and I think that you know, we

479
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Speaker 1: want to see a lot of faces.

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Speaker 4: Yes, we want to see you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so be sure to send us your email address

482
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Speaker 1: so that you can connect with us on the Zoom Live.

483
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Speaker 1: And also let us know what are good times Like

484
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Speaker 1: we fully acknowledge that this episode today is about Zoom exhaustion,

485
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Speaker 1: and so let us know about ironic what are good

486
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Speaker 1: times for us to connect with you so that we

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Speaker 1: can be and we can practice, we preach, and we

488
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Speaker 1: can be intentional about the time that we set to

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Speaker 1: connect with you.

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Speaker 4: That means we have to make it fun down we

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Speaker 4: have to make our Zoom fun. Also just FYI, I

492
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Speaker 4: know sometimes you may listen to a podcast or like

493
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 4: follow someone and you're like, I don't want to show up.

494
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 4: It might be awkward or weird. We are like super

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Speaker 4: down to earth and we have so much fun. Even

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Speaker 4: the people that come to our ig live shout out

497
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Speaker 4: to you ladies. We have some fun on our Instagram lives. Okay,

498
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Speaker 4: like they be lit. Yes, it's all good vibes, all positivity.

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Speaker 4: So meet us. Meet Us May twenty fifth, at ten

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Speaker 4: am Pacific Standard time one pm Eastern Standard time. We're

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Speaker 4: gonna do a live show via zoom and you can

502
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Speaker 4: ask us questions live, you can respond live, we can

503
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 4: feed off of your energy. It's gonna be a really

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Speaker 4: good time. So we hope that you click the link

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Speaker 4: in our bio at her Space podcast and enter your

506
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 4: email address and we'll send you more information about that

507
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Speaker 4: Zoom Live.

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Speaker 1: Our next tip is to be intentional about scheduling. So Tea,

509
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Speaker 1: how often do you do your family game night?

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Speaker 4: At this point, I think we've done it once or twice,

511
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Speaker 4: and we haven't been consistent because I have a lot

512
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Speaker 4: of siblings, y'all, and I'm trying to get a bunch

513
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Speaker 4: of teenagers and then my other sister who's my age.

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to get every you know, we're trying to

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Speaker 4: get everybody together, so sometimes it can be a little tricky,

516
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Speaker 4: but we kind of just do it when everyone's feeling

517
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Speaker 4: it and they're free. So when our group chat will

518
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Speaker 4: be like Hey, y'all trying to do game night this Sunday, boom,

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Speaker 4: let's do it. But I will say with the twerk class,

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Speaker 4: that's something that happens every Saturday, and that has been

521
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Speaker 4: something that's super therapeutic and dope to to do over

522
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Speaker 4: zoom eving.

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Speaker 1: Okay, And so what I like about both of those things, right,

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Speaker 1: So the first one, what I like about that and

525
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Speaker 1: how that can prevent zoom exhaustion for folks and to

526
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Speaker 1: get people to be more enthusiastic about it, is that

527
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Speaker 1: it's not like you're saying, Okay, every two weeks as

528
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Speaker 1: a family, we're gonna do this, right. It's somebody, the

529
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Speaker 1: spirit moves somebody and they send the message out and

530
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Speaker 1: then everyone else is like, cool, that day works for me,

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Speaker 1: Oh maybe it doesn't. Let's pick a different day, and

532
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Speaker 1: you it's whenever the spirit moves you, as opposed to

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Speaker 1: let's be let's be pretty rigid about we're gonna meet

534
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Speaker 1: every couple of weeks. What ends up happening is is

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Speaker 1: that those first few times, I'm sure everybody you know

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Speaker 1: was really excited and wanted to participate, But then after

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Speaker 1: a while, people don't feel don't feel enthusiastic about it,

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Speaker 1: they don't the burnout sets in, right, Yeah, And so

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Speaker 1: I like the idea of like moving when the energy

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Speaker 1: feels good.

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Speaker 7: Yes.

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Speaker 4: Now, I was gonna say, you don't want it to

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Speaker 4: be a chore, because then it defeats the whole purpose.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 4: It's like if we're like, oh I got to go

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Speaker 4: to the zoom, Oh my gosh, I don't feel like it,

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Speaker 4: then it's like, okay, we should probably you know, wait

548
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Speaker 4: until the spirit strikes, until we are excited about this

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Speaker 4: to resume, right exactly.

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Speaker 1: And I think the other thing too, about how we

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Speaker 1: can be intentional with our schedule. So, like you said,

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Speaker 1: like turk churches every Saturday, right, and so that means that, okay,

553
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Speaker 1: so you to be intentional about it to prevent exhaustion,

554
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Speaker 1: like you know, that's the one thing that really feeds

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Speaker 1: your soul. So then you might not schedule like five

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Speaker 1: other things to happen on that Saturday. You may schedule

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Speaker 1: one or two other things so that you can truly

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Speaker 1: bring energy to energetic energy to each of the different

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Speaker 1: things that you're doing that day.

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Speaker 5: Right. I know for me, one of.

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Speaker 1: The things that initially got me and I had to

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Speaker 1: switch it up and really be intentional. Is that I

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Speaker 1: initially was like, oh bet like these virtual things like

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Speaker 1: I was really excited about, Oh okay, I can connect

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Speaker 1: with friends and family. And I remember, I think maybe

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Speaker 1: that first or second Saturday, I head back to back

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Speaker 1: things like I literally from like nine in the morning

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Speaker 1: until like seven that evening, I had something on my catlendar.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 1: I realized after that Saturday, as much as I thoroughly

571
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Speaker 1: enjoyed each of those different connections that I had, it

572
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Speaker 1: felt draining to me to.

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Speaker 5: Have all of that back to back.

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Speaker 1: And I also found myself feeling guilty because I ended

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Speaker 1: up having to be like, Okay, after this certain time,

576
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Speaker 1: I gotta go onto the next thing, onto the next thing.

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Speaker 1: When I was having a good time in each of

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Speaker 1: those different events, that I really wanted to stay longer,

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Speaker 1: but I couldn't because I had my next obligation, right,

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Speaker 1: And so for me, what I learned after that was

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Speaker 1: to be really be intentional about the scheduling.

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Speaker 5: So one not scheduling.

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Speaker 1: If I know that I have anal long work day

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Speaker 1: in terms of multiple meetings or like zoom meetings, I'm

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Speaker 1: probably not going to schedule any socializing at the ends

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Speaker 1: of that long work day, because I know my introvert

587
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Speaker 1: side is going to come out and I'm going to

588
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Speaker 1: need to be like go into myself after having to

589
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Speaker 1: be extroverted all day, Right, And I might not want

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Speaker 1: to schedule a social event every night of the week.

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Speaker 1: I might want to give myself a little bit time,

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Speaker 1: a little bit of time in the evenings to have

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Speaker 1: just to myself because I know for me, I'm an ambrovert.

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Speaker 1: And so it's about finding that balance that works for

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Speaker 1: you as an individual and be intentional about how you

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Speaker 1: schedule things so that you're not becoming burned out or

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Speaker 1: developing resentment towards the different events that you have schedule.

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Speaker 4: Amen, Dom I with everything you just said. I'm with you.

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Speaker 4: I'm over here like yass girl, preach for real And

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Speaker 4: I think yeah.

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Speaker 1: And I think the next tip, tip number four fits

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Speaker 1: right into that, which you know, and it's a little

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Speaker 1: contradictory for me, is to set time limits, right. And

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Speaker 1: so for me, when I look at that that first

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Speaker 1: weekend or two, I had time limits set, but not

606
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Speaker 1: in the good way, right. I had time limits set

607
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Speaker 1: because I have multiple meetings back to back. But I

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Speaker 1: think moving forward. When you're more intentional about your schedule,

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Speaker 1: you can set time limits if you know that you're

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Speaker 1: a person who your energy gets drained after a certain

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Speaker 1: amount of time, right, Or if you know that, okay,

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Speaker 1: we don't have it centered around a planned activity. Because

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Speaker 1: if you have it centered around a planned activity, that

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Speaker 1: makes it that's an easy stopping point.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 1: So that amount of like being intentional about the amount

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Speaker 1: of time that you're spending with your family around that

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Speaker 1: particular activity, it's easy for you to say, Okay, we're

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Speaker 1: done with this activity. I had a great time. Connect

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Speaker 1: with you soon right, a natural ending point. But if

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Speaker 1: you don't have it centered around at an activity. If

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Speaker 1: you let people know ahead of time, hey we're only

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Speaker 1: doing this for thirty minutes, or we're only doing this

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Speaker 1: for an hour, then that also lets people know, okay,

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Speaker 1: here's a set time frame. I can decide does this

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Speaker 1: time frame work for me?

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Speaker 5: Is this?

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Speaker 1: Does this feel good to me? And thirty minutes an hour?

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Speaker 1: That doesn't feel for most people. Thirty minutes It's thirty

630
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: minutes flies by, right, So thirty minutes might not feel

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Speaker 1: like a huge co and people may be more compelled

632
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Speaker 1: to want to engage and participate because they know, oh

633
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Speaker 1: we've only we're only in this for thirty minutes, so

634
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Speaker 1: we got to dive in.

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Speaker 4: That's a really good point. And you know what, dom,

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Speaker 4: I think that the busier I've gotten over the years

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Speaker 4: and the more I value my own time, I typically

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Speaker 4: I think that's a general best practice just to have

639
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Speaker 4: in place in life, you know, to set time limits.

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Speaker 4: Like I know, if it's not like a best you know,

641
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Speaker 4: a good friend that I'm just catching up with, if

642
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 4: it's you know, someone that's not family per se. Usually

643
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 4: if I'm hopping on the phone with someone, it's like, okay, cool,

644
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 4: just to check in before we, you know, dive into anything.

645
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 4: I have us you know, chatting for thirty minutes or

646
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Speaker 4: having us stopping at this time. I think it's just

647
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 4: a good best practice to manage your time and to

648
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 4: save your time because imagine someone calling you like, oh, girl,

649
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Speaker 4: I want to talk to you over zoom and pick

650
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Speaker 4: your brain about X, y Z. So you could be

651
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 4: on that phone for all day, and then sometimes it's

652
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Speaker 4: awkward and in the midst of it, when you're freaking

653
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Speaker 4: exhausted and that you're withs in to be like, okay,

654
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Speaker 4: you know what, I have something else, I got to talk,

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Speaker 4: I gotta do this other thing or whatever. I think

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Speaker 4: setting those agreements and boundaries initially it makes it so

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Speaker 4: much easier, Oh my gosh, because they already know. They're

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Speaker 4: looking at the clock with you. They're like, oh, okay,

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Speaker 4: I know you only have five minutes, because you know

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Speaker 4: we said this in the beginning. So yes, get that

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Speaker 4: time limit out there at the onset. Okay, yes, exactly.

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Speaker 1: And I think you know, when you it may be

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Speaker 1: easier to set that time limit with in a professional setting, right,

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Speaker 1: I think we at least for me, I'm gonna speak

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Speaker 1: for myself, I might struggle with setting a time limit

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Speaker 1: with friends and family and so for and I know

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Speaker 1: for me, in terms of making those distinctions, that's one

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Speaker 1: place where I do kind of like to make that

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Speaker 1: distinction where if I'm doing a social thing, I might

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Speaker 1: not if I've been intentional about my scheduling, then I

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Speaker 1: might not have a time limit on it because I

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Speaker 1: want things the natural energy to just kind of flow, right. So, like,

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Speaker 1: I know, there were a couple of Zoom happy hours

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Speaker 1: that I did with girlfriends, and what I think one

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Speaker 1: of them it was supposed to be.

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Speaker 5: It started out as a brunch right and next.

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Speaker 1: Thing we know, like we were just having so much fun,

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Speaker 1: like catching up that and just discussion, so it wasn't

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Speaker 1: like centered around an activity or anything. We were just vibing,

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Speaker 1: and next thing we know, it was like eight hours later.

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Speaker 1: And that's happened to me a couple of times where

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Speaker 1: we just got into a flow, and I think I

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Speaker 1: don't know if it was intentional on their end, but

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Speaker 1: on my end, it was intentional that I did not

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Speaker 1: schedule anything after those initial set times to me because

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Speaker 1: I wanted to just be to feel comfortable enough to

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Speaker 1: just be present and see where things go.

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Speaker 4: That's a really good point, don because you know what,

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Speaker 4: I think that there has to be balanced. I think

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Speaker 4: you're right. When it comes to the professional setting, it

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Speaker 4: is easier and whise to set those time limits. I

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Speaker 4: think with family, I can set the time limits if

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Speaker 4: I legitimately have something to do. I know a while back,

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Speaker 4: maybe a couple of weeks ago or so, my little

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Speaker 4: sister and I we were just facetiming, and I think

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Speaker 4: it may have been a weekend because I usally gonna

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Speaker 4: stay up too late on the weekdays. But girl, we

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Speaker 4: had FaceTime. I think it was like four hours, and

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Speaker 4: after it, I was like, oh god, damn. We were

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Speaker 4: talking for a long time, but it was so good.

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Speaker 4: We were in the flow and it was what it

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Speaker 4: was like. I didn't have anything schedule after. So I

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Speaker 4: think those moments of us, you know, spending that quality

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Speaker 4: time virtually it is important. But I think it's just

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Speaker 4: it's just I guess we have to keep in mind,

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Speaker 4: like what's on our schedule, and if we had the

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Speaker 4: time to do it right, Like if you have a

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Speaker 4: boatload of work to do and then you're like, oh,

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Speaker 4: I'm just going to hang out on this call a

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Speaker 4: couple more hours, then it's like hmm, then we might

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Speaker 4: be stressed out later. But I'm with you. I think

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Speaker 4: it really does depend on the situation. And I think

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Speaker 4: there are situations or instances where we should leave our

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Speaker 4: schedule open to connect with people in a deeper way.

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Speaker 1: Yes, And I think you know, what you pointed out

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Speaker 1: was good that Like, Okay, so if I know that

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Speaker 1: my little sister is asking to connect with me on

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Speaker 1: this particular day and I have like two other work

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Speaker 1: obligations that need to happen, then I can combine those

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Speaker 1: tips of being intentional and setting a time limit, right,

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Speaker 1: so I can tell my little sister, Hey, you know,

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Speaker 1: I really want to connect with you, but this is

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Speaker 1: the amount of time that I have to do it

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Speaker 1: because I have these other meetings, right, And that way

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Speaker 1: your sister can decide like, Okay, well is this gonna work?

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Speaker 1: Do we need to set a different time or am

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Speaker 1: I gonna have to be am I gonna go into

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Speaker 1: this knowing that we have like forty five minutes, So

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get right to it.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna dive right.

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Speaker 1: In, get to the nitty gritty, and then be done,

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Speaker 1: and then we can connect on a different time and

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Speaker 1: just below. And so that brings us to our final tip,

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Speaker 1: which is to take a break in between and during

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Speaker 1: the meetings. So you know, sometimes those for our work sessions,

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Speaker 1: like I said, like I mentioned earlier, I've heard instances

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Speaker 1: where people have those for our work sessions and there's

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Speaker 1: no break. If you're in a setting where there's no

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Speaker 1: built in breaks, we're all autonomous adults. We can set

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Speaker 1: our own break, right. So four hours and this may

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Speaker 1: be the professor in me coming out, but four hours

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Speaker 1: is unrealistic to expect people to sit still the entire time.

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Speaker 5: I know that when I.

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Speaker 1: Have in person classes, that we take multiple breaks if

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Speaker 1: we are there for multiple hours usually, and I think

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Speaker 1: this also the therapist in me kind of comes out

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Speaker 1: in this part, is that usually like every fifty minutes

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Speaker 1: or so, because that's for me, forty five to fifty

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Speaker 1: minutes is the normal therapy hour, and so around that

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Speaker 1: time that's break.

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Speaker 5: That's a natural break time for me. Right.

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Speaker 1: And so if I'm sitting in a four hour long

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Speaker 1: meeting and there are no scheduled breaks, and the facilitator

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Speaker 1: of that meeting didn't mention that we're going to take breaks,

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Speaker 1: then I institute my own breaks, and I stop my

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Speaker 1: video and I get up and take a break so

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Speaker 1: that I don't end up like jin Right.

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Speaker 5: We don't want to be Jennifer.

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Speaker 1: I get up and walk away from my laptop right

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Speaker 1: to just really give myself one that opportunity to like

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Speaker 1: stretch my legs and move around, get the blood circulating

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Speaker 1: a little bit, and to take that necessary bathroom break.

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Speaker 4: Good for you, Dom, I need to do a better

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Speaker 4: job of taking breaks. Sometimes I just get so wrapped

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Speaker 4: up and there's so much to do, there's so much

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Speaker 4: on my to do list. I just sit sit sick

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Speaker 4: type type type, and then I'm like, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 4: eight hours is gone by and I've been sitting in

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Speaker 4: the same position for eight hours. That's why I am

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Speaker 4: very intentional about those weekly workouts with the trainer over zoom,

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Speaker 4: because if I don't do if I don't have that

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Speaker 4: forced function of me getting up and moving my body, girl,

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Speaker 4: it would be bad for me. So I need to

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Speaker 4: do that. But no, that's a really good tip. I

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Speaker 4: appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: And I well, you know, I think what helps me

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Speaker 1: is so I have an Apple Watch, and what it

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Speaker 1: does is it alerts me if it's time when it's

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Speaker 1: time to stand up. So if I've been seated for

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Speaker 1: too long, I'll get like a little message that'll pop

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Speaker 1: up that says that says time to stand And I

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Speaker 1: think when I had well, I think it was a

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Speaker 1: fitbit that I had. The fitbit would by break every

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Speaker 1: fifty minutes if I hadn't stood up. So I think

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Speaker 1: that there are ways in which we can set like

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Speaker 1: alarms or alerts for ourselves, depending on what devices we

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Speaker 1: have to remind us to get up.

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Speaker 5: Another option.

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Speaker 1: One thing that I just implemented this past week, which

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Speaker 1: I have been doing in my work office but realized

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Speaker 1: I needed to do it in my home office. Is

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Speaker 1: to have like a riser from my laptop so that

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Speaker 1: like I don't have an official standing desk like I

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Speaker 1: know some workplace situations have that, but at home, like

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Speaker 1: I have a riser and I put my laptop on

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Speaker 1: that so that I can alternate between standing and sitting.

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Speaker 4: Go ahead, Tom, look at you. That's very smart. That's

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Speaker 4: a very good idea, especially with most of us, you know,

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Speaker 4: having if we are working from home, we're sitting down

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Speaker 4: as we work. So that's a very very good idea.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I think, you know, honestly, like we were saying

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Speaker 1: at the beginning, you know, I implementing these things is

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Speaker 1: why I really am not speriencing that zoom fatigue or

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Speaker 1: that zoom burnout. And so, lady, we do want to

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Speaker 1: recognize that a lot of you are experiencing that, and

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Speaker 1: so we hope that you take these tips, try to

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Speaker 1: implement them, and recognize that these tips are not a

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Speaker 1: one size fits all, that you have to look at

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00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: your individual situation and maybe look at the tips and

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Speaker 1: make some adjustments that will work for you. So just

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Speaker 1: to review our five tips to combat zoom fatigue. One

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Speaker 1: use a different.

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Speaker 5: Device and or platform for work and socializing.

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Speaker 1: Two, center your social activities around an activity. Three, be

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00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: intentional about your scheduling, so balancing work and social set

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Speaker 1: time limits, and then tip number five take a break

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Speaker 1: in between and during those meetings.

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