1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to Big Fish, Small Pod. I'm at Verdal and 2 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 1: I don't really want to talk about the sport today. 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 1: I'm going to that's what these ten minutes will be 4 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: allotted too, but I'm I don't want to. I don't 5 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 1: want to talk about it. It's been brought to the 6 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: brought to light by an MLB at i LB Advocate 7 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: group that three of the Marlins affiliates. This is what 8 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: they're reporting, not necessarily the whole truth, so much as 9 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: they're reporting for the Marlins, in addition to having reported 10 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: on many other major league organizations already this year and 11 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 1: prior to it about just bad conditions for minor league players. 12 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: I mean, we all know about the minor leagues. It's like, 13 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: I mean, the minor leaguees pretty exists my fandom understanding 14 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: the minor leagues and just this like practice of undersupporting people, 15 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: throwing them into like hot water, and seeing who rises 16 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: to the top and makes it to the majors and 17 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: becomes like your Edward Cabrera becomes your Jazzitism junior or 18 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: like John Birdie. These players make a tremendous effort to 19 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: get to the highest point in the game, to get 20 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: to the major leagues, some by just immense talent, some 21 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: by thousands of plate appearances, some by even going to 22 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: independent unaffiliated baseball, where like the struggles are similar to 23 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: the minor leagues. As a fan, just to like appreciate 24 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: every aspect of the sport, like the minor leagues are 25 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: enveloped into it. To play MLB the show is to 26 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: play road to the show and see at least a 27 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: bit of that progression that like career path getting closer 28 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: to the game. Yeah, you meet people that retire because 29 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: the situations don't align with where they're at as people 30 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: as like maturing people in their early to mid twenties. 31 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: There's a real lack of support made by owners of 32 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: the major league teams, like at least a financial commitment, 33 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: whether or not, like any blame is to fall in 34 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: the owner is like totally, like I don't who knows. Ultimately, 35 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: it's just something is neglected. Who picks up for that neglect? 36 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 1: Obviously the players can't do it themselves. Sometimes I'm sure 37 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 1: a player's family can support them, or some players do 38 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: receive large bonuses in the draft, Like you're like Adly Retchman, 39 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: You're jj bla day, they're not worried about it. They 40 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: can spend a couple thousand dollars to live thirty minutes 41 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 1: from the stadium in a hotel. Even is it ideal? No? 42 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: Is that the good? Probably not, probably not the best 43 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: position for their growth. Does do any of these people 44 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: live in places like that? Probably not. I'm kind of 45 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: bullshitting because, like we're trying to hit on an abstract 46 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: point that this is an area neglect that's been neglected 47 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: over the years. This like corner cutting is typical. We've 48 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: seen it in the Marlins year after year. I was 49 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: fixated yesterday out on Chris Coglin, just like talking about 50 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: Brian de la Cruz is babbit just made me think 51 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: of Chris Coglin back in the day. He like received 52 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: MVP votes for his like Rookie of the Year twenty 53 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: two and nine, clearly his best year. He has like 54 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: two thousand plate appearances in the majors, only about like 55 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: one point one b war The point being there, like 56 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: that was a player that I as like as a 57 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: fan of the Marlins and my teens, was like, this 58 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: is like the future. This guy's great. He's like he 59 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 1: started left field the next year and ten Marlins didn't 60 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: really go anywhere. They were like eighty eighty two, fired 61 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: Freddy Gonzalez mid year, kind of like the train wreck 62 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: of a season, a stall out ahead of what should 63 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: have been like more of a launch. I think that 64 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: some position feels like analogous to like where the Marlins 65 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: are at now, a bit of a stall out. Twenty 66 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 1: twenty one have a player Brian dela Cruz who's really 67 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 1: getting hot, kind of like feeling more like a piece 68 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: of the future. I mean watching Brian de la Cruz 69 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: versus watching Chris Coughlin. I think that Brian de la 70 00:04:56,440 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: Cruz is a more talented ballplayer. I think that at 71 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 1: this point already. But while the Marlins are playing the Mets, 72 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: and like thusly on the topic of fan expectations, fan 73 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: understanding of the game, you have to see how the 74 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: Marlins organization has similarly cut corners over the years. They 75 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: didn't really add on free agents heading up to twenty ten, 76 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: they didn't stock of the team. They were putting that 77 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: off till twenty twelve when they could do it. I mean, 78 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: this is a different ownership group than Jeffrey Lauria owns team, 79 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: so totally. I mean at least potentially a totally different 80 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: way of doing things. But where we're at now, it's 81 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: still a question of what corners will be cut, and 82 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: it's disheartening as a fan to see just outright that 83 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: a corner is being cut when there's no reason for that. 84 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 1: I love the sport and I want to see good baseball. 85 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 1: I'd be thrilled to have like one hundred and sixty 86 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 1: two games a year and playoffs, competitive good baseball with 87 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 1: like talented players, with a disciplined approach, with good game plans, 88 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: and just like an exciting story with people that are 89 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: like exceptional humans playing this game at such a high level. 90 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: Hopefully it's a case of something being called out to 91 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 1: then introduce action against it and build a minor league 92 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: foundation with a holistic sense of respect for the people 93 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: who play the sport. Tuesday Night's games in New York 94 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: offered a bit of a glimpset a Marlins team that 95 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 1: isn't quite there yet. First game of the doubleheader was 96 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 1: the game resumed from April eleventh. Totally weird, box score, 97 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: totally weird, just all of it. Brian Dayala Cruz first 98 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: major league hit April eleventh, twenty one months before his 99 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: trade to the Marlins. Just I don't get it. I 100 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: don't understand why they are pretending that this game happened 101 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: on April eleventh. I don't need too though, I undertagled 102 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: by it. It was a funny game. It was an 103 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: upsetting game. I really it felt like another one of 104 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: those games that the I mean, it just was another 105 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: game that the bullpen I just got away from the bullpen. 106 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: Anthony Bass in particular, was trusted in the position to 107 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: close the game out, not like a save situation so 108 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: much as hey, let's end the game. It just didn't 109 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: happen there. Richard Blyer came in, didn't have it there, 110 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: Dylan Flora came in, game was lost there. You know. 111 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: Game two, Edward Cabrera came on in facing Trevor Williams. 112 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: Trevor Williams former Marlin. Kind of compelling to me how 113 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: often another team seems to trot out a former Marlin 114 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: starting pitcher. It's been a trend for a while nowt 115 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: of the Marlins developing good pitching talent. Edward Cabrera really 116 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: does seem to be like another in that line of 117 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:45,079 Speaker 1: certainly like a progression in talent up from Trevor Williams. 118 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 1: But the game Trevor just attacked the Marlins to start, 119 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: just throwing that fastball low, perhaps knowing that he's not 120 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: like the best pitcher out there. He doesn't throw ninety eight. 121 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 1: He's not that like strikeout stuff guy. He's the guy 122 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: that can take advantage of approaches. Seemed like he was 123 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: throwing his fastball low, trying to induce that ground ball, 124 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 1: expecting early aggression on Marlin's hitters, who are like, oh, 125 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: this guy's hit able. It's just intelligent pitching from Trevor 126 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: Williams and the Mets. To start Game two, well, Edward 127 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: Cabrera came out and established like all of his pitches 128 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: they were there. He got some swing and miss into 129 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: the fourth scoreless. It wasn't until after he tripped on 130 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 1: the mound through a changeup down the middle afterwards to Canfordo. 131 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: Canfordo took it to the upper deck that game got 132 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: anything close to being out of hand right that it 133 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: was a shoutout. And it's Edward's second start with perhaps 134 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 1: something of a sophomoric approached, something like a finesse pitcher approach. 135 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 1: Maybe for Edward Cabrera, perhaps that's a Sandy Leone influence. 136 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 1: Who's a catcher used to being the reliable catcher that 137 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: the minor leaguer can come up and trust. Just the 138 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: type of stuff that people usually have when they come 139 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: up in situations like that isn't near Edward Cabrera. In 140 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: no way have we gotten close to Edward Cabrera's limit 141 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 1: in the seven inning game. The Marlins were not able 142 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: to come back after that Conforto home run, falling to 143 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: MAT's three to two. One to lose two games on 144 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: different days at the same time, I'm glad that we 145 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: have the day off. Ida's remnants heading up through New York, 146 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: so no baseball game today September first. Marlins will get 147 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: another chance on the second against Carlos Carrasco. Well, today's 148 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: game has been pushed to September twenty eight. For the podcast, 149 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:00,439 Speaker 1: I've been at dull truly, I am exhausted, but the 150 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: rest of our team at Fishtrike will be back with 151 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 1: you later today and tomorrow with the latest