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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast Doesn't look Tan from Orlando.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansus and I'm joined by Room

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Speaker 1: Failed with some heroes. Mark celer to my left right. Well,

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Speaker 1: what's up, boys? I did pick up a bit of

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Speaker 1: a tan. I went running on the first day we

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Speaker 1: were there. Hands was a little not with Gregg this time?

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Speaker 1: Where's there in Orlando? Orlando? Playing off the opening bit,

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Speaker 1: got a little bit too much sun and said, not

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Speaker 1: going to do that again, really, and you've already faded.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about that because three or four years later,

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Speaker 1: no longer running together. Does that speak about the evolution

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Speaker 1: or de evolution of your relationship between the two heroes?

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Speaker 1: And well I will I will open in Greg evolution

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Speaker 1: and I don't think it's well this No, this was

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Speaker 1: brought up early on in our time there and Gregg

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Speaker 1: basically said not really interested in that's running with View

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Speaker 1: and West was sitting right there and West was taken

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Speaker 1: it back, and so was I. So this is I

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Speaker 1: just went running by myself. Well this couldn't be a

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Speaker 1: bigger live because I literally asked Mark, what's he's doing?

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Speaker 1: The rest of the day. You know, I said, I

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Speaker 1: think it might go work out. Saturday was the only

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Speaker 1: day we even had time to do it, and he said,

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Speaker 1: you're like, no, I'm gonna I'm gonna work out later.

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Speaker 1: I want to take a nap and we'll bring West

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Speaker 1: in on this. Guys, work it out. Fixed, fixed this relation.

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Speaker 1: There was a deep apathy from Greg in terms of joining.

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Speaker 1: And you know, doing this is for a second time.

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Speaker 1: We are back in Culver City after a long and

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Speaker 1: fruitful weekend in Orlando for the U League's annual League

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Speaker 1: meeting or the owners meetings, so you know that is

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Speaker 1: a term people, almost a week. I got in Wednesday night.

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Speaker 1: I just got in about twelve hours ago. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: that's a long time to be in Orlando. But we

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Speaker 1: had a great time there. And if you have not

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Speaker 1: listened to our two part extravaganza from Orlando, we put

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Speaker 1: up shows Monday and Tuesday, and we have more we're

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Speaker 1: coming today from our time in Orlando, including entering his

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Speaker 1: twentieth year in the NFL as a head coach, Andy Reid.

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Speaker 1: And don't you forget about Oh yeah, he's an analytical monster.

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Speaker 1: Tony Cohn of the Jags, So we're gonna hear from

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Speaker 1: both of them conversations we had over the weekend. In

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Speaker 1: addition to that, will also be going through the news

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Speaker 1: including UH and Dominican Sue finally getting home, and the

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Speaker 1: drama around the famous wide receiver for the New York

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Speaker 1: Giants Odell Beckham Jr. Uh, some takeaways from the Owner's

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Speaker 1: breakfast which Greg attended while I was hungover on an airplane,

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Speaker 1: and UH, and then a big announcement from Mark at

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Speaker 1: the end of the show. So a lot to get to.

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Speaker 1: So let's get to behind the glass. By the way,

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Speaker 1: for the first time in a long time, Lindsay's back

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Speaker 1: home Wests in Cincinnati. He's going to Red's opening day.

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Speaker 1: A lot of fun there. Uh, Erica tam Posey a

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Speaker 1: k the loose cannon behind the glass. What's up? Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: what's what is happening? Just chilling, Yeah, just chilling. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: A little rusty, little rusty back here. Yeah, but feels

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Speaker 1: good to be in the driver's seat. You look comfortable, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, just hanging I mean you you somewhat famously

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Speaker 1: if if fans out there have checked out the latest broadcast,

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Speaker 1: were not allowed to go to Orlando but I think

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Speaker 1: it was worth it for I think what turned out

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Speaker 1: to be the most entertaining episode of the broadcast. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was pretty good. Yeah, the broadcast really needed a

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Speaker 1: big episode, and there it was. Checkout, Tamos. The vehicle

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Speaker 1: it's climbing. With every new episode. We're getting up like

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Speaker 1: views for some videos. What about the one where Dan

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Speaker 1: and I appeared on it? Did that? Spike did a

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Speaker 1: little bit of metrics almost check it out? Uh, what

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Speaker 1: is your Twitter at Erica tempost tempo, the NFL at

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Speaker 1: tempost the NFL, the other one, the burner, It's a

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Speaker 1: whole other thing. And m a VP, of course, does

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Speaker 1: great work for the broad the broadcast as well. Let's

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Speaker 1: do some news football colon Sunday activity for people no

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Speaker 1: longer on speaking terms with God. All right, start within

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Speaker 1: dom Kin Sue. Our last show, we had the general

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Speaker 1: Uh that time, I thought you were going to start

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Speaker 1: but less need Uh and his wife Kara Uh Henderson,

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Speaker 1: Sue does indeed land with the Rams, as we suspected,

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Speaker 1: a one year, fourteen million dollar deal per the rap Sheet.

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Speaker 1: He made the decision after visiting with the Saints and

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Speaker 1: Titans last week. The Jets, of course, as we knew,

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Speaker 1: made a big offer, but then pulled the offer when

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Speaker 1: Sue Uh didn't make any type of movement on it

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Speaker 1: by their self imposed deadline mark. The Rams just got better.

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Speaker 1: Michael Brocker's and Sue here. Yeah. If Wade Phillips defense

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Speaker 1: So Sue is a huge edition. And some of the

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Speaker 1: worst analysis I've seen after this is like, oh, how

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Speaker 1: they got to handle all these big personalities, Like, first

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Speaker 1: basically said, you know, Wade Phillips is the is the biggest.

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Speaker 1: Sue is playing for his next contract. He's not coming

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Speaker 1: in as the leader of the RAMS organization. He's not

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Speaker 1: it's been a very different type of free agency. And

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Speaker 1: But things are a little different right now and these

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Speaker 1: totally different circumstance. Uh, Kirk Cousins who got a three

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Speaker 1: one year for a great team, and UH indirectly serve

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Speaker 1: me some sandwiches I going to get because Trueman Johnson's

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Speaker 1: I like that. The pregnant pause after cognizent, he is

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Speaker 1: almost second trimester. Now, just make for a third trimester.

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Speaker 1: Moving on, speaking of contracts and UH and superstars that

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Speaker 1: the Giants are putting it out there that they'll you know,

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Speaker 1: according to on the Film Networks Tom Placero, the teams

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Speaker 1: also swapped fourth and fifth round picks. Your thoughts, Greig, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's good to see Palasero getting in the insider mix

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Speaker 1: like that. Yesterday. I just saw sort of Ian and

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Speaker 1: Pelasero like kind of huddled in the corner, like swapping information,

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Speaker 1: just like it seemed like I was in there. Yeah. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying I don't know. It seems like it

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Speaker 1: could be like a show like Insiders their friends, but

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Speaker 1: they're also competing. They like each other, but they secretly.

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Speaker 1: I clearly don't have that much to say on Sua Cravens,

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Speaker 1: who looked pretty good. I think he was. He had

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Speaker 1: a lot of potential when he played for Washington, so

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Speaker 1: the Broncos wanted him all off. It's a low risk

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Speaker 1: move and and could pay off for them. And by

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Speaker 1: the way, I did uh the a t N Media

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Speaker 1: insider also did break some news yesterday. Greg, you're always

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Speaker 1: coming after me. I did. Check out my Twitter account.

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Speaker 1: If you want to know less needs hair product what

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Speaker 1: he uses to make that golden mane shine, go to

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Speaker 1: my Twitter feeds Dolphin. It's like forty bucks. By the way, Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: I just when when you actually asked less Need about it,

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Speaker 1: he's one comment. He didn't even know what it was.

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Speaker 1: He's just it's expensive, he said, it's can go feather

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Speaker 1: play it off like lightweights, whatever is there that feels

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Speaker 1: like it comes from another country other than America. And

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Speaker 1: I do get these tweets a lot, like because people

454
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Speaker 1: ask about my redkin work, hard styling paste, what what

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Speaker 1: kind of products are you use? A lot of people

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Speaker 1: use like the really thick type uh epoxy almost no,

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Speaker 1: oh with like more like a cream something a little lighter.

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Speaker 1: Put it in there so your hair doesn't get it

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Speaker 1: in a different Everyone's hair type, you know, deserves different

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Speaker 1: types of if they're trying to have your hair used.

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Speaker 1: I don't believe anybody should put that really thick junk

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Speaker 1: into their hair. That's just people ask me. That's my response,

463
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Speaker 1: like a sort of like a like British rave scene

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Speaker 1: person where it's so spiky and finally we're moving. One

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Speaker 1: of the other announcements at the owner meetings was that

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Speaker 1: the NFL Media West Coast offices will be moving to

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Speaker 1: the new Rams and Chargers facility. I I, you know, Mark,

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Speaker 1: we've been here for eight years almost. It will be

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Speaker 1: sad to see this old girl uh go, including our commutes.

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Speaker 1: It's a yeah, I mean I I you know, this

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Speaker 1: is a very rare thing in Los Angeles. This feels like,

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Speaker 1: you know, small town Maine or something. But I can

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Speaker 1: literally walk to work, and that is I could still

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Speaker 1: walk at the police walked Inglewood too, but I would

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Speaker 1: probably be late almost every day by quite a few hours. Already.

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Speaker 1: Work in Maine, just down at the doc tempost. You're

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Speaker 1: from New hampshim I wrong. Some people can they can

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Speaker 1: work close to home. I mean, yeah, you can work

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Speaker 1: kind of any Yeah, down down at the dock, get

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Speaker 1: on the boat, go catch some meat, get drunk, go

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Speaker 1: back home. Call it today. Um okay, And if you

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Speaker 1: want to hear more about we we dropped some nugs

483
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Speaker 1: about the coach's breakfast. Greg Rosenthal wrote a column. Uh

484
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Speaker 1: you can check it out nfl dot com slash Rosenthal.

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Speaker 1: Do you want to share one another, uh tidbit from

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Speaker 1: your column or do you just want to point in

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Speaker 1: that way and we'll keep moving. Sure a tidbit, Sure

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Speaker 1: tid I think, uh, this isn't from the column, but

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Speaker 1: I think I think Matt Patricia is becoming a fashion icon.

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Speaker 1: I saw that shirt. I mean that there's a palm

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Speaker 1: he's loosening. I think I think Pete Carroll very much

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Speaker 1: noticed that he was, you know, at the table near

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Speaker 1: McVeigh and Kyle Shanahan and not as many people around

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Speaker 1: the Carol table anymore. And I think he's noticing this.

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Speaker 1: He's seen everyone kind of forget about the Seahawks and he,

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Speaker 1: as you say, noted, I think he's noting this. And

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Speaker 1: you know what, though you also wrote that he was

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Speaker 1: typically chipper and using that type of Pete Carol language

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Speaker 1: even more than with a little bit of an I

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Speaker 1: think I byrd that that's legitimate. I think he was

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Speaker 1: getting worn down by that group and he's gonna get

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a fresh start this year. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And I can see why would be a little there's

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Speaker 1: no talk of retirement now he's a little he was

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Speaker 1: ready to move some of these guys. I think that's true.

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Speaker 1: And he's gone through so many different phases of his

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Speaker 1: life and he's achieved that now at the highest level

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Speaker 1: of the NFL. I think he likes the idea of this, alright,

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Speaker 1: one more, one more try to go up the mountain

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Speaker 1: with a new group, and that helps him kind of

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Speaker 1: get a little liked. Reading what the Boston Globe said

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Speaker 1: about Belichick, who you know in famously brushes off anyone

513
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Speaker 1: who works in the in the field of journalism, it

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Speaker 1: said that he he says absolutely not. This is of

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Speaker 1: him at the breakfast. He says absolutely nothing of interest.

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Speaker 1: He scoffs at legitimate questions. This year, instead of sitting

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Speaker 1: at a table like the thirty one other head coaches,

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Speaker 1: he made reporters stand in former circle around him, ostensibly

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Speaker 1: to ward off other reporters floating around the room. Was

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Speaker 1: this was that Benvolin. I would have to go check that.

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Speaker 1: I believe it was. I mean, it's just there was

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Speaker 1: a lot of outrage about his um behavior at this breakfast,

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Speaker 1: which is not a new theme. Yeah, that little Tony

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Speaker 1: I think needs to come down. But but to that,

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Speaker 1: I agree with you Gray. But also you know, center table.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's all I'd say. I think you said it. Well,

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Speaker 1: all right, let's move on and dig into the rest

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Speaker 1: of our interview from Orlando, starting with Andy Reid, who

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Speaker 1: was entering his sixth year as the head coach of

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Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs. It was great to talk to

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Speaker 1: Mr Reid, so let's listen in all right. Here we

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Speaker 1: are head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs entering his

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Speaker 1: twentieth year as a head coach, which is a third

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Speaker 1: of his life. I did my research, Andy Reid. You've

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Speaker 1: been in the game a long time. How do you

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Speaker 1: do it twenty straight years as a head coach? Yeah? UM,

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Speaker 1: have good people around me. Um the help us win games.

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Speaker 1: So good players, good coaches. Do you feel like coming

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Speaker 1: to this event? You know when you take that picture

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Speaker 1: they have the big coaches picture, You've always got the

541
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Speaker 1: Hawaiian shirt on during that picture. You ever kind of

542
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Speaker 1: thing now having coming back to this for like twenty years,

543
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Speaker 1: like you're like the godfather of this NFL coaching community.

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Speaker 1: You look around and you see you know, Ron Rivera

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Speaker 1: and Doug Peterson and Sean McDermott, and the list goes

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Speaker 1: on and on, all these guys kind of that that

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Speaker 1: you've coached. Yeah, that goes back to that first question

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Speaker 1: right there. Um, I've been fortunate to have have those

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Speaker 1: guys on staff and they've been phenomenal and have allowed

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Speaker 1: us to win a lot of games. And uh, and

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Speaker 1: that's not even including the players. I mean, we've had

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Speaker 1: great players too, But UM, very fortunate to do what

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Speaker 1: I do. But I mean when you can sit here

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Speaker 1: and you guys are in this same boat here that uh,

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Speaker 1: there's only thirty two of you in the whole world,

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Speaker 1: and and that's something. And to be able to go

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Speaker 1: through as many games as I've been lucky enough to

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Speaker 1: go through, UM is incredible, great experience. The Godfather. I

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Speaker 1: like that though, Is that something you'd be cool with

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Speaker 1: that catching on in league parlance? Yeah, that's fine. Just

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Speaker 1: watch out what you say, because you might there's a lake.

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Speaker 1: I mean, do you know do you take advantage of that?

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Speaker 1: You swing your influence around and you know, these are

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Speaker 1: guys that used to you know, work with you, they

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Speaker 1: are still sort of look up to you as the boss.

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Speaker 1: Well I was about one and four this season against him,

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Speaker 1: so I wasn't slinging around too much against him. But

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Speaker 1: um no, listen, I obviously people bounce things off you

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Speaker 1: just because you've been around a while. And those guys

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Speaker 1: I've got great relationships with. Um. Um, we we've continued

571
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Speaker 1: to uh do things. You had Doug Peterson, I had

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Speaker 1: dinner last night, So I mean we we stay in

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Speaker 1: touch and and uh are always uh communicating and so

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Speaker 1: they'll ask me a few things. Let's you bring up

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Speaker 1: Doug Peterson. It's obviously spent all those years in Philly

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Speaker 1: and you had a great, great run there. Um, Doug

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Speaker 1: gets over the hump their first Super Bowl. What was

578
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Speaker 1: it like watching the Eagles win a Super Bowl? It

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Speaker 1: was phenomenal, And it was phenomenal. I was so happy

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Speaker 1: for that city and for the organization. Um, when we

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Speaker 1: were there, we were so close. Um, but we never

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Speaker 1: got over that. And for Doug to come in and

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Speaker 1: to be able to lead him the way he led

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Speaker 1: him and a lot of different areas, I just thought

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Speaker 1: it was it was tremendous for how he roseman I

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Speaker 1: kind of get back in the picture and to be

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Speaker 1: able to re establish himself, I thought was good. And

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Speaker 1: then for Jeffrey, who I've stayed very close with UH

589
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: since leaving. He and I was close with him when

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Speaker 1: I was there, So we had a great relationship and

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Speaker 1: very happy for Jeffrey and his family. You got real close.

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00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: In two thousand two, you faced John Gruden and the Bucks.

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00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: He's back in your division. What is it like to

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Speaker 1: have John Gruden back in the NFL as a coach.

595
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: I think it's great. I think it's great for the NFL. UM,

596
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: and not that he was too far away. UH in particular,

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Speaker 1: with all the shows he was doing on quarterback camp

598
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. So um, but to have him

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00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: back is is a neat deal. And and uh, John

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00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: is a good football coach most of all. I mean,

601
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: and that's really what he what he wants to do. Um.

602
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: He did the other thing because he had been excused

603
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Speaker 1: from his job at Tampa and then um was good

604
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Speaker 1: at that too. Very few guys can be Hall of

605
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Speaker 1: Fame quality and two different positions, and and he's been

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Speaker 1: able to do that. I was excused from my job

607
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: at shop right my first job rightfully A couple other times.

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Speaker 1: I like that terminology. I mean, listen, you were saying

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Speaker 1: you you used to work at Didger Stadium. We were

610
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Speaker 1: talking just before we went on you're at you're a

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Speaker 1: Dodgers Fanly what did you do? What did you do there? Were?

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Speaker 1: I didn't really were I played, uh little league baseball, well,

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Speaker 1: pony league baseball right across the um parking lot. So

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Speaker 1: what's while you get a ticket? You could sell the

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Speaker 1: ticket that type of thing. So you know, going back

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Speaker 1: to Grooten and he stepped away as we know, Um,

617
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Speaker 1: you twenty straight years as a coach. Is that? Did

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Speaker 1: it ever? Cross your mind during these two decades, like

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Speaker 1: where You're like, maybe I do want to sit out

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Speaker 1: a few years make a ton of money sitting in

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Speaker 1: a booth and talking about the game. Or were you

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00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,719
Speaker 1: always single minded that I'm a football coach and this

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Speaker 1: is what I do. Yeah. Man, I love doing what

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Speaker 1: I'm doing. Very fortunate to do what I do. I

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Speaker 1: love every day I have a chance to go and

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Speaker 1: even listen. I mean, you're gonna lose some, You're gonna

627
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Speaker 1: win some, and uh, we've been fortunate to win more

628
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: than we've lost, but the ones that we've we've lost.

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Speaker 1: I still I'm gonna bring energy and I challenge as

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Speaker 1: the players with that. So I'm not gonna give you

631
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Speaker 1: too much. But I mean, you know, I'm not I'm

632
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: not great in this setting, but uh, you're doing great.

633
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Speaker 1: It's also nine thirty in the morning for those list

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Speaker 1: and you're gonna go head out and this is lunchtime.

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Speaker 1: It's uh, so I come in and um um, I'm

636
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,719
Speaker 1: a challenge and that listen. If I'm not bringing it,

637
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: let me know, man um. And so far no one

638
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: said anything. You know, you paid you know, a premium

639
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 1: for Patrick Mahomes and you know what the prices for

640
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Speaker 1: young quarterbacks around the league. Where you were surprised as

641
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: as sort of the general NFL public was about the

642
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: forty Niners getting Jimmy Garoppolo for such a low, low

643
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: price tag. Yeah, I'm sure there's uh more to it

644
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: than that. There's always something behind the scenes. Bills Bill

645
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: is a shrewd guy and he's been doing a long time. Um,

646
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: the bottom line it was to get a second round

647
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: pick for him. Uh. And he's got Tom Brady who's

648
00:33:54,960 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: gonna play until six and sir, you know anyway, So um,

649
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: I wasn't that shocked. Uh. I think though that he's

650
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: a good football player and he's in the perfect situation.

651
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 1: Shannon's a heck of an offensive mind, and and that

652
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: could be really something special for the forty Niners forty fans. Eddie, Uh,

653
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: I'm a Jets fan. So let's with the Tom Brady

654
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 1: playing another twenty four years and we just like keep

655
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 1: that to a minimum that time contact. Yeah, but you're

656
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: fixing to get a quarterback here, so it looks like

657
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 1: it could happen. And you gave up, you know, a

658
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,879
Speaker 1: lot to get Alex Smith and then you you got

659
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 1: a lot when you when you traded it away Alex Smith, Like,

660
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 1: what did what did Patrick go Homes show you in

661
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Speaker 1: practice that you would feel confident trading Alex after such

662
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 1: a great season that he had for you? Yeah, well

663
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: too to be able to uh let Alex go like that,

664
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Speaker 1: he had to show us something right because Alex was

665
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: putting together a phenomenal year and a phenomenal five years

666
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: really uh with with the Chiefs, and no better than

667
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 1: this year right here, and I still thought he hadn't

668
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: tapped out yet, so reached it, reached his cap. So um.

669
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,399
Speaker 1: The thing that we had a chance to do with

670
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 1: Mahomes was he got to play against in that Denver game,

671
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 1: So myself and Mike Kafka worked with him as uh

672
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: Matt Naggy Bread Schilders and Alex worked on the playoff

673
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 1: teams and getting ready for those. So I had an

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Speaker 1: opportunity to work firsthand with Patrick and Mike, who also

675
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: got promoted in this whole deal. Kafka, Uh, it's a

676
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: quarterback coach. And it was just so smooth. And we

677
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 1: went in that game they played their starters now Denver

678
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,760
Speaker 1: did starting defense, and I went into that game feeling

679
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: like we could score any time. And once we got

680
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 1: in there, I felt the same thing he gave. He

681
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: gave you that confidence and and uh he made some

682
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: plays that you saw him do with these no look

683
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: throws and he doesn't practice that. We kind of go

684
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 1: out it's practice. He starts doing those in the game.

685
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 1: I go, WHOA, Okay, that's something special. So uh, he

686
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 1: hadn't done anything yet though. That was that was that

687
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: one game. Um, and he's got to continue to grow here.

688
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 1: So but he's wired the right way. Great kid. Uh

689
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: And and I told I told him this that he

690
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: could buy Alex Smith a castle, and that wouldn't be

691
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: enough to pay Alex Smith back for being in that

692
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Speaker 1: room and learning from him. Yeah, Alex uh did a

693
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: phenomenal job with him and their relationship was very very close.

694
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Speaker 1: One of the deeper Internet searches with Andy Reid is

695
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 1: the utility belt that you wear on Sundays that everyone

696
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: wanted to sort of know what is happening with that belt,

697
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: what sort of technology is involved there. There's a lot

698
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 1: of material on that just to get around the whole thing. Um.

699
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: And and that the league has gotten bigger with their

700
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: hardware there, so that doesn't help me at all. And uh,

701
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 1: they've now put zippers in the jackets on the side.

702
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: You've got three zippers on a jacket. That just doesn't

703
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: make any sense. And what's today's technology? You ever searched this?

704
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: And there's like tons of articles about the belt that

705
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: you wear. People have, there's a lot of That's what

706
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: I'm JF super Superman and me Internet, we have the belt.

707
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: How how weird is it to see the guy who

708
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: dresses up as you. Yeah, he came to the training

709
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: camp and I love him do the press conference which

710
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 1: is ye, that was a closet um just to let

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00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: him get the If you're gonna do it, I mean,

712
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 1: you gotta get up here and really do it because

713
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 1: that's the hardest part of the job. So um he

714
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: handled it. Well. Your your wife's in the room with

715
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: us here. I'm wondering if she like agrees that are you?

716
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Speaker 1: Were you impressed by the invitation at all? She's not

717
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: on Mike of course. No. Um, all right, Andy, are

718
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 1: you okay? Doing a little speed round? So we get

719
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,760
Speaker 1: a little bit no more about the Godfather? Yeah, fire away,

720
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: quick answers, quick questions. Can we get a little eight o'clock?

721
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: The light there Lindsay Jordan or Lebron Lebron true or false?

722
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: Game of Thrones is actually stupid never never done it.

723
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:03,280
Speaker 1: The greatest SNL has the member of all time? Uh,

724
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 1: Chevy Chase. One NFL coach pastor present. Who scares you?

725
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 1: Vesse Lombardy. Would you give up a pinky toe if

726
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: it guaranteed a Lombardi Trophy in the next six years?

727
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: Right now? Best Super Bowl halftime show ever? Uh? Paul McCartney,

728
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, Ryanness love him man. Most embarrassing c D

729
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 1: in your music collection? Uh? Yeah, pass see what worst

730
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Speaker 1: way to lose a super Bowl or a Super Bowl?

731
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: How most people same? Chip shot, field goal or catch

732
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Speaker 1: rule Shenanigan's cost catch roll shin Manigan's and uh final question.

733
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Speaker 1: Most famous person in your cell phone? Uh Chris Berman.

734
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 1: Mwah m, all right, and you read best of luck

735
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: to you the season, the Godfather, all the coaches that

736
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: listened to this show you kissed the ring. If you

737
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: see him in Orlando this week, he's the man. Thanks. Andy,

738
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: I appreciate there you go, Andy Reid. I like that

739
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,240
Speaker 1: he participated in the speed round there at eight o'clock

740
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 1: to light and as he got up, which I thought

741
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,760
Speaker 1: was funny. A lot of things that I thought was funny.

742
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 1: But as he got up, his answered, what do you

743
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 1: say about Game of Thrones? Never played it? Never played it?

744
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: I know that was a great answer. And then he said, uh.

745
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 1: As he's leaving the room with his wife, he's like,

746
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: you guys are like uh, and he's searching for it

747
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: and he goes Entourage the Entourage, to which I said,

748
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: as you're always the follow up question who's Turtle? And

749
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: like Entourage has remembered and we've got a lot on

750
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: our podcast, all right, Who's you know? The a t

751
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: N group is the Beatles. It's like, all right, who's ring?

752
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: Go same thing with Entourage. Nobody wants to be Turtle.

753
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 1: So maybe there needs to be like a group of

754
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 1: four where somebody doesn't get their feelings hurt. Well that's

755
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: my takeaway. I think there are no winners in the

756
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: Entourage comparison. I think we all end up. You know that.

757
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: When he said that, I thought that's troubling. That's troubling

758
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: to me. I actually reminded him, I mean, yeah, there's

759
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: no one who wants to be Vintie Chase or Vintie

760
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,399
Speaker 1: Chase's brother or any of that group. It's the four

761
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 1: biggest in the world. It's not the Beatles, It's not

762
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,439
Speaker 1: three and one, and now the Beatles is actually four

763
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 1: and oh, I mean Ringo has done fine for himself.

764
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Speaker 1: I mean, I guess it's like I'm I'm the manager,

765
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 1: friend guy great or like there's no great, there's no

766
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: great winner. Uh hey, I'm the I'm the dow fis

767
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 1: uh no personality star Like you don't want to be

768
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: that guy either, but you would have had to be

769
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: one of them because the manager she's like I think

770
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: he's like Ach in real life. Turtle is Turtle, and

771
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: then you have Matt Dilan's brother. Turtles seems like he

772
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 1: might be well, I don't know yet. Bleep do I

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Speaker 1: Next up Tony Con. He's a vice president with the

783
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars. He's also the son of Shot kan Uh,

784
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: the owner of the Jaguars. Uh. This was kind of

785
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 1: a fun conversation because other guys for coaches and snead

786
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 1: obviously a GM. Here's a guy that was working that

787
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,280
Speaker 1: works on the analytics side of the game, but also

788
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,879
Speaker 1: made it very clear in this conversation that his job

789
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: doesn't stop with numbers. Let's listen to Tony Gone. He

790
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: is the senior vice president of Football Technology and Analytics

791
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: for the Jacksonville Jaguars. Tony Con, what's up, bonus? Hey,

792
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: thanks for having me. This is this little music. You're

793
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:22,439
Speaker 1: a little intro music. Pretty good to do anything. Okay,

794
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: you know that's been a common theme for our e

795
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,399
Speaker 1: d M. Music is the music d much Andy Reid

796
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 1: moved it. Um, this is why I love about football, Tommy.

797
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 1: Is that you? I mean you have analytics in your

798
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 1: title senior vice president. Very smart man. I once got

799
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: a thirty nine on a state mandated math test in

800
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: high school. And yet here we are sitting together, brought

801
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: together by pig skin. Isn't that nice? It is awesome.

802
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: Football brings people from all over the world together. You know,

803
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,240
Speaker 1: when I when I think about how far the Jaguars

804
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,919
Speaker 1: have come in the last calendar year, I picture you

805
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: in the booth with the fist pump your your phone

806
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: most a blown up after that, right, fall blows up

807
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 1: after games a lot, and especially after a playoff game,

808
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 1: and especially after a playoff win. You know, phone is

809
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: gonna blow up a lot, but definitely that day it

810
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 1: blew up a lot. Um. What's funny about that is

811
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 1: I swear Tom and Dave were going nuts, like right

812
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 1: before the camera came on, and they both just like

813
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 1: sat down and completely were deadpan. As soon as they

814
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 1: flashed up. It was like almost like they were in

815
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 1: on the you know. So I want to get to

816
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 1: the point in my career where I can just call

817
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: like a head coach and the general manager Tom and Dave,

818
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: you know, and everyone will know what I'm talking about.

819
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, yeah, Tom and Dave, Tommy, Yeah. If

820
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: I if I ever just went up if I saw

821
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: the commissioner, I like, hey, Rock, what's up. He's like,

822
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: You're fired, Move on, move on. You know, from the

823
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 1: early summer days, a lot of guys, especially on your defense,

824
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,399
Speaker 1: we're saying, stop thinking the word the old Jaguars. We're

825
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: going to make an impact the season. We're a super

826
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: Bowl contender. And I remember writing articles and you know,

827
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 1: you do you want to you want to give them

828
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: their do but thinking where is all this competence coming

829
00:43:56,600 --> 00:44:00,800
Speaker 1: from upstairs where you guys feeling the same way, felt

830
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 1: really good about it going to this year. Um, you

831
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: know we took a lot of steps. I mean from

832
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 1: the top down. We could talk about obviously, you know

833
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin coming in. You know he is to the

834
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: point you're just making he is somebody who I can

835
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 1: just say the name Tom and you know you will

836
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: know who I'm talking about. I think everyone in football

837
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 1: knows who that is. And uh, he came in and

838
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: made a huge impact on the building and uh just

839
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 1: change the culture so much. Doug Morone had been there,

840
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:29,760
Speaker 1: and I think one of the things that's really cool

841
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: about the Jags story is a lot of people, uh,

842
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 1: you know, came in and helped us build this up

843
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 1: heavy hitters like you know, Tom Coughlin, Calias Campbell, a

844
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 1: j But uh. You know also, uh, there's a lot

845
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: of people that were there suffering through it for a

846
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 1: lot of years and and sweating and and and suffering

847
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: to put it together. And uh, a lot of people

848
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: worked really hard through a lot of tough years. So

849
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: you know, Doug had been there, Uh and before he

850
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: was a head coach, he'd been there for a couple

851
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,040
Speaker 1: of years as the assistant head coach on offense of

852
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: line coach Todd Wash had been there for years, and

853
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 1: I worked really closely with him, and you could tell

854
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: the defense was taking steps. Um. In two thousands sixteen

855
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 1: on defense, Uh, you know, in terms of yards per play,

856
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: we ranked third in the NFL in two thousand and sixteen,

857
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: we only won three games, but we ranked third in

858
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: the NFL and yards per play we just just ahead

859
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: of the Seahawks. Uh. And then uh we were ranked

860
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: uh fifth in yards per pass attempt net yard net

861
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 1: yards per pass attempt. Uh, so we're doing a good

862
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: job in coverage. Uh. And you know we stepped that up.

863
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 1: You know, we went from third in uh yards per

864
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: played a second basically tied for first. It was like, uh,

865
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 1: you know. And then yards per pass, yeah, yard yards

866
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: per pass attempt we uh we went, uh you know,

867
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:45,879
Speaker 1: from fifth in the league to first. We went from

868
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: just under six yards per past attempt to just under

869
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 1: five yards per past tempt. So basically from great to

870
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 1: like all time grade. And but the things are in

871
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: two thousands sixteen, we ranked eighteen in sacks, and our

872
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: sack grate, uh was like five point seven and we

873
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 1: nearly doubled it to about ten percent and finished second

874
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: in sack right, So to go from eighteen to second

875
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: in sacks, okay, So we've been doing a good job

876
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 1: in coverage and overall in defense. There were signs, but

877
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 1: that was huge. Okay. Turnover percentage, we were thirty second

878
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: in turnover percentage, dead last in two thousand and sixteen.

879
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 1: And we knew they were going to come. And like

880
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: I said, you bring in heavy hitters like Calias and

881
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 1: a j and they're gonna come. And we had a

882
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: great rookie class in two thousand and sixteen. Those guys

883
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 1: all stepped up their game, you know, Jalen, Yannick and

884
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: Miles and uh. Then you know, so that we nearly

885
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: tripled our turnover right from two thousand sixty two thousand

886
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: and seventeen. So we knew that we were gonna be

887
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 1: a lot better, and I think everybody was. I feel

888
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: like Tony did not get a thirty nine on a

889
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: state mandated netsast probably. I mean, it's interesting. Obviously you've

890
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: come with a lot of numbers and your in your

891
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 1: title and the analytics and football, and we were West

892
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,879
Speaker 1: and I were talking over a lunch about this, how

893
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: it was slower to kind of take hold in football

894
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,240
Speaker 1: than it was in baseball. And there's still on some level,

895
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: you know, cruss the corners of the NFL where it's like,

896
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,399
Speaker 1: oh no, it's not about the analytics. It's about being

897
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: there in person, and it's about the human touch. But

898
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:10,399
Speaker 1: teams like Jacksonville when we see in Philadelphia, Uh, it's

899
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 1: about melding it right. Ultimately, it's it's about both. It

900
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: is about both. Like I'm a football guy, like I

901
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: don't think it would work if I wasn't. I mean,

902
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 1: my goal, whether I'm with you guys, or Tom Coughlin

903
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: or Doug Moron, is to be insightful enough that you

904
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 1: forget that I'm the owner's son. Uh. And you know,

905
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 1: they just think that I am a football person talking

906
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 1: to you about in this case, usually about stuff, stuff

907
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: that in some way relates to the statistics and how

908
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: they are applied to the game of football. And uh.

909
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,800
Speaker 1: So you know I spend a lot. I mean, I'm

910
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 1: and you guys have probably seen me there. I'm sitting

911
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: in this those hard metal stands at the Senior Bowl

912
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: in Mobile, Alabama. Every year I was in the I

913
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 1: was standing in a jurnal at Mobile Alabama at the

914
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: lad People Stadium. A lot of stories and that is

915
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 1: it's like Playboy after Dark here and uh and so

916
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 1: no was like, I was looking at a poster and

917
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,720
Speaker 1: I was like, it was an event in two thousand fourteen,

918
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: and I was like, good lord, I've been here four

919
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: times since the last time they changed the posters in

920
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 1: the men's room. So yeah, I love football, And uh,

921
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,359
Speaker 1: I don't think it works if if you know, if

922
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 1: you don't go all in in terms of trying to

923
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:20,800
Speaker 1: be a part of the culture and working with the

924
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: coach and staff and the scouts, is it tough. And

925
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 1: obviously your regime I'm not specifically talking about. Do you

926
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 1: have you founder of you in your experience that it

927
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: could be tough to talk to people that are more

928
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 1: scout based and more be there in person. I mean,

929
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 1: Dave and I have been working together since two thousand thirteen. Uh,

930
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 1: you say you work with Todd wash so closely, Like

931
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 1: what does that even entail the defensive coordinator? What do

932
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 1: you like? What? How are you working together? We spent

933
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: a ton of time with him in the offseason, like

934
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 1: looking at players and every week like, uh, you know,

935
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 1: and I spent a lot of time with various coaches.

936
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 1: But Washer and I have been working together for years. Uh.

937
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 1: You know, he's been in Jacksonville since two thousand thirteen,

938
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: so I've been working with him on a weekly basis

939
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,879
Speaker 1: for you know, in five years now and uh going

940
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 1: to our you know, it's been a long tenure. And

941
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: and Dave Caldwell has been the general manager of the

942
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: team since the beginning of two thousand thirteen. So again,

943
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: like we've been working really closely together, and uh, uh

944
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: you know, we've We've had a number of good drafts.

945
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: People come up to me and asked me, um, is

946
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: free agency always this crazy in the NFL. I've been

947
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 1: following it this year more than ever, and it's like,

948
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 1: is it always this crazy, And I'm like, no, it's not.

949
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 1: Because the two thousand fourteen draft class was one of

950
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,919
Speaker 1: the all time great draft classes, so across the league,

951
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a great free agency four years out

952
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 1: for US to you know, two thousand and sixteen was

953
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: it was a great draft class for US and two

954
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: thousand fourteen was also a great draft class. So either

955
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,240
Speaker 1: you know, the four years off from that, there's always

956
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 1: gonna be things. Hopefully you get guys done in three years.

957
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 1: Sometimes it happens, uh, But anyway, Uh, working in football,

958
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,320
Speaker 1: I think absolutely, like you know, you have to building

959
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 1: relationships and building trust and like being able to uh

960
00:49:56,520 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: you know, kind of have repetitive stuff where p will

961
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 1: understand what what what you're talking about, whether on both sides,

962
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:05,839
Speaker 1: whether I'm talking about a statistic or whether they're using

963
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: a football term. Uh, where we don't have to like

964
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 1: give two page explanation every time we say it because

965
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 1: we do this every week and so we know what

966
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 1: we're talking about on both on both sides. So I

967
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 1: know some football and they know some stats. I think

968
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 1: to your point, like your Instagram account, you put out

969
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: very easy I think for football fans, but for others,

970
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 1: very decipherable, easy to understand, impactful football statistics. I mean

971
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 1: I looked at it just like, oh whoa. I never

972
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: really realized that about the twenties at age twenty six,

973
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 1: that's the player in the NFL that always has the

974
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 1: most picks. It's like this is not always, not always,

975
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 1: but like over that that's the that's that's the age

976
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 1: where that it's gathered the most intercept. Mark is the

977
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 1: noted Instagram hunter. I mean, if you need to find

978
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 1: something on Instagram Twitter stats, that's what everyone looks for.

979
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 1: That's what everyone looks for on Instagram stats. And you know,

980
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 1: I actually stop another thing. I haven't posted him in

981
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 1: a long time. I was doing it every day, and uh,

982
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 1: it was like there were some people that really liked it,

983
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: but it wasn't getting as much of a response I

984
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: would have liked. But for the people that liked it,

985
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 1: I'm glad you're one of the ones that LinkedIn. Mark's

986
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: feed is really weird too. You should check it out.

987
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 1: A lot of aliens, uh, I've seen it. I've seen

988
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: I know, I follow Mark. I know. It's quite a

989
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 1: roller coaster, all right, speaking of roller coaster. This I

990
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: like to consider the crucible of this process, this interview process.

991
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:18,839
Speaker 1: It's time for what we call eight o'clock to light

992
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 1: our speed round. Are you ready here? We got hit

993
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 1: at lindsay Best. Michael Jackson song a smooth criminal. That's

994
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 1: an offlinnswer that's an offline. So I can't believe that's

995
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 1: what I said, thriller. I can't believe I said that

996
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: because I like the alex Let's grew up in the

997
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 1: alien and farm like kind of when all that stuff

998
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: was big, And I don't know I said that was

999
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: a bad answer. I'm not I like Michael Jackson. Time

1000
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 1: and we're done. There we go. Most famous person in

1001
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 1: your cell phone? Uh? Bill, Bill Belichick? Nice? Nice, Paul.

1002
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:53,320
Speaker 1: What's one thing most people don't know about your starting quarterback? Uh?

1003
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 1: He's the problem. I think a lot of people might

1004
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 1: know this, but I don't know if everyone knows that

1005
00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:59,319
Speaker 1: the Blake is like one of the greatest, most down

1006
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 1: to earth old guys you're ever gonna meet. He's a dude.

1007
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,720
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, you're buying this. I've been on Tom Brady

1008
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,320
Speaker 1: since he was at Michigan. I grew up in Champagne Illinois,

1009
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:10,760
Speaker 1: and I knew Tom Brady was good. When Tom Brady

1010
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 1: was at Michigan, he held off Drew Henson, one of

1011
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 1: the all time great recruits. Uh, not buying it. I've

1012
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 1: been buying buying it for years at least deserving Best

1013
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 1: Picture winner Crash or Shakespeare in Love Crash, best uniform

1014
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: in the NFL, The Jaguars. Uh, Sopranos are bad men.

1015
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:32,879
Speaker 1: Sopranos is the best show of all time. Right, nice?

1016
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 1: Take it easy with all the superhero movies, you know

1017
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:39,760
Speaker 1: what I mean? Yeah, Big Year, Tupac, Tupac, more masculine,

1018
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 1: changing a tire or opening a jar tire? Last one?

1019
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: What does Tony con get up to when it's time

1020
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:51,399
Speaker 1: for a little meat time? Uh? It really depends. I'll

1021
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 1: binge watch some stuff, but mostly like stats. You know,

1022
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 1: I don't have that much meatime because in addition to this,

1023
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: I'm also the general manager of a soccer team that's

1024
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 1: doing very well. So Mark. When the Jaguars played the

1025
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,720
Speaker 1: Bills a couple of years ago, a fellow writer here, Connor,

1026
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 1: you guys were nice enough to Uh was that the

1027
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 1: writing game? It was? I I wish I knew more

1028
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:15,879
Speaker 1: about the details that happened. We came back in one

1029
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 1: four to two. It was I believe there was quite

1030
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 1: a quite a comeback and now listen and it's a

1031
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: little it was still honestly the first soccer and it

1032
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 1: was an incredible experience. That stadium is unlike anything I

1033
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: had ever explained. So it's so like intimate. Cottage is

1034
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,760
Speaker 1: one of the greatest. Cottage is one of the greatest

1035
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: facilities in sports. It's one of the great and we

1036
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 1: share birthdays ten tents, so there's a lot of great

1037
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:43,359
Speaker 1: tent Bret Harve, also Smith, all of the greats now

1038
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 1: that Ryan Fredericks from in the mix. I'm buying. Alright,

1039
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 1: Tony con best of luck to the Jaguars this season,

1040
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 1: and I just wanted to let you know that the

1041
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 1: thirty nine that I got, like before we get judge,

1042
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 1: it was a difficult test and I'd like to see

1043
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: matthis Hawgs. That's tough pointing to that. Thanks for having me, Yeah, exactly,

1044
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:08,399
Speaker 1: all right. I thought that was one of the more

1045
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 1: unique conversations that we had. And I think it's funny

1046
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 1: because I don't think that like Tony Khan, what he

1047
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:15,399
Speaker 1: thought it was going to come in and be sort

1048
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 1: of a radio interview and these lights burning, and I

1049
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 1: think he was sort of wondering what's happening here. But

1050
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 1: by the by the time we got through it, I realized,

1051
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 1: this guy, he is better than than Dan Is at MATH,

1052
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:27,959
Speaker 1: a lot better. That was my main take. He should

1053
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 1: have been confident. He had a sweet well, he had

1054
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: a Sweet Jags leather coat, which is a risky move

1055
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 1: in the humid Orlando weather, but I thought I thought

1056
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:40,879
Speaker 1: it looked great, and I liked that he pointed out

1057
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,720
Speaker 1: that he's also a general manager of a soccer team,

1058
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 1: Like that's not a minor side job. He's a busy man.

1059
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, So that those are those are take Those

1060
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 1: are our interviews from Orlando. Was great. Great doing that.

1061
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: Going to the meetings. I think it was fun because

1062
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 1: we got to all be there together. But also you're

1063
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 1: getting these coaches and all these figures during kind of

1064
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 1: a a nice time in the NFL calendar, and everyone's

1065
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,360
Speaker 1: kind of has not been ground down to a pulp

1066
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 1: as if you were doing it. I don't know, Mark

1067
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:17,800
Speaker 1: in December, So with you, it was a very different

1068
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 1: type of A lot of them were with their wives

1069
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 1: and their kids. I mean, yeah, it was. It was

1070
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: nice they got. I mean what you guys got. You know,

1071
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 1: Mark got a little ground down there by the end.

1072
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 1: I feel like we I I when I left, I

1073
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: was ready to leave, but I had I had quite

1074
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 1: an enjoyable time. Yeah, we it ended for Mark and

1075
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 1: I with um because we flew out on Tuesday, but

1076
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 1: we went to all of us. We all went to

1077
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:43,280
Speaker 1: the big party which was on this big, great lawn

1078
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 1: on the grounds of the Ritz and it was the

1079
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 1: most star studded NFL party you will ever attend because

1080
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:55,800
Speaker 1: it has every head coach, every owner, gms, UH, their wives,

1081
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: their kids and it's just a really interesting party for

1082
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 1: their to be an open bar at and UM, I

1083
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:05,959
Speaker 1: will thank Marcus Mark. This is where Mark shines these events. Uh.

1084
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:09,319
Speaker 1: Two big cessl related takeaways. I turned my head at

1085
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:10,799
Speaker 1: one point and I see Mark at the bar in

1086
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: full conversation, uh and pointing in my direction, like who's

1087
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 1: he talking to It's like Mike mccagne. Well, I know

1088
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:18,879
Speaker 1: you wanted to talk to him, and like you at

1089
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 1: one point during the week saw Mike mccagne and like

1090
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,720
Speaker 1: the twelve year old Dan. This was at like an

1091
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:26,959
Speaker 1: earlier cocktail party at some point and in the twelve

1092
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:28,919
Speaker 1: year old Dan came out. He just he just goes

1093
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 1: Mike mca like across that and he turned and looked

1094
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: so you didn't see who it came from. But that

1095
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 1: was just involuntary. And then we had a very nice

1096
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:40,399
Speaker 1: to three of us had a nice conversation with Big Mac,

1097
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 1: who said, hey, after the draft, I'd love to come

1098
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:46,280
Speaker 1: on the show. He's a super nice guy. And then Greg,

1099
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember this, uh, at the

1100
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 1: after after party at the bar um. You know, at

1101
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 1: this point it's getting a little hazy, and I'll tell

1102
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 1: you it was a rough airplane ride home for the

1103
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:02,760
Speaker 1: old zeuzer Um the next morning. But I'm looking for Mark.

1104
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 1: And then in the corner back corner of this bar,

1105
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 1: where the walls intersect and and strategically so no one

1106
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:14,760
Speaker 1: else can come into the circle, is a group that included, Uh,

1107
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 1: Sean Payton, help me out, Mark, Jean McVeigh, Doug Marrone,

1108
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 1: Mike Tarkoko and then there's Mark. And I see Mark

1109
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 1: just with this big grin on his face like in

1110
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 1: the and everyone's much bigger than you, and it's Sean

1111
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 1: McVeigh is not. He's maybe thicker than I am, but

1112
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 1: he's not a lot taller than had his arm around

1113
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 1: me at one point, Like I was a little kid.

1114
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 1: This guy he was right, wasn't he? Can you like

1115
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 1: he's like little little buddy, and like he's only like

1116
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 1: eight years older than you, but he was like older

1117
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 1: than your friend. Can you share if you can recall?

1118
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 1: Can you share anything from that? Or was that more

1119
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 1: like a circle of trust situation and we'd respect that?

1120
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 1: I what no, what I'd to say was none of

1121
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 1: them seemed to really be talking about football at the

1122
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 1: time that I was heard, which I thought was awesome,

1123
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 1: And they were all I forgot what the subject was.

1124
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 1: That they were off on a riff about something else entirely,

1125
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 1: and that's what I was fascinated by. It really wasn't like,

1126
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 1: oh yeah, the three or four defense is actually just

1127
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 1: a blend of the four three three whatever. It was

1128
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 1: like pop off at that. I would not expect a

1129
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: lot of football talk. I think they love They love

1130
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 1: kind of getting to know each other as talking about

1131
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 1: everything else because they lead such unique lives. It's like Patricia,

1132
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 1: we saw Patricia and Belichick and their wives or in

1133
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 1: Belichick's case girlfriend. I mean, they were hanging out, um

1134
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 1: right until the end of that party, just like the

1135
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 1: four of them at a table, and you know, I'm

1136
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 1: sure they're just you can tell they've been on a

1137
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:38,919
Speaker 1: few dumb talking ball but yeah, they're they're getting along great.

1138
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 1: They got along great. There was no ugly divorce there clearly,

1139
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 1: and you know, we did not. Dan and I were

1140
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 1: the only two humans of the party that decided to

1141
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 1: leave our credential in the room, and we were tracked

1142
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 1: by security. At one point, someone crossed the entire like

1143
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 1: four hundred yard lawn track us down and say you're out.

1144
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 1: You don't belong here, and we had to keep trying

1145
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 1: to convince him. Here's Dan's Twitter page, Yeah he does

1146
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 1: belong to the obviously, it's that you can't pull it,

1147
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 1: don't you know who I am? But I had to

1148
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 1: take out the Twitter and I was like, look, this

1149
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 1: is me in the photo in an NFL studio. This

1150
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 1: is a blue check mark. I am not. And they

1151
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 1: were just they weren't like they were just disappointed with us.

1152
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 1: It was just one of those were just disappointing with

1153
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 1: the two of you. It was fun, though, and there

1154
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 1: was and I won't say one like nugget one of

1155
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 1: those blind items in the post. One NFL head coach

1156
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 1: zig zagging trying to hold himself up with chairs leaving

1157
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 1: the party, was grabbing some was definitely grabbing some trees

1158
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 1: and things on the way. And I will the only

1159
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 1: thing I'll say is this and this. You have to

1160
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 1: be a head coach. You gotta be able to resilient.

1161
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 1: He was at that owners breakfast at seven am the

1162
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: next morning, answering the hard questions. Uh So, it was

1163
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:44,919
Speaker 1: a fun event and we hope to be back next year.

1164
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 1: And thanks to h Mark Brady, who works behind the

1165
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 1: scenes for US helping set that up. He did such

1166
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 1: a great job for us. Uh So, that's it. And

1167
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 1: all the coaches got to that seven am breakfast, not

1168
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 1: you guys, but Moron eight and McVeigh there. There wasn't hungry.

1169
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 1: Daddy just had to survive. On Tuesday morning, one last thing,

1170
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 1: a little breaking news from Mark Sessler Mark the Flora's yours. Well,

1171
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 1: I will not be here all next week. I will

1172
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 1: be in Italy in Germany covering an NFL USO event

1173
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 1: with is starring. By the way, I will be spending

1174
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 1: time with Rex Ryan the entire week. So I'm gonna

1175
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 1: see how that goes. I'm gonna call you love that.

1176
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 1: I'll leave you guys a few voice Yeah, we'd love

1177
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 1: to get some dispatches from the road, and I would

1178
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 1: love And who are the players on it? You got

1179
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 1: mark Ingram, Latavious Murray, Carlos Dunlop, a few others? Can

1180
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 1: I ask London request? Sure? You know I have a

1181
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 1: soft spot in my heart for Rex Ryan. Just give

1182
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 1: him a fresh start, Just hit the reset button. I

1183
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 1: actually already have after spending our sundays with Rob Bryan

1184
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 1: on Sky Sports. So I really saw them as sort

1185
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 1: of as a as a group annoyance to me, and

1186
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 1: then I realized I was wrong. Well, we're very excited

1187
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 1: for you, Mark, because that that checks all the Sessler boxes,

1188
01:00:57,760 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 1: gets you out of the grind of your daily life,

1189
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 1: get you on the road in a way by yourself

1190
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:05,479
Speaker 1: and you're traveling the world. This is what you really

1191
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 1: want to do. To do it and still have a page.

1192
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 1: I come from the NFL. It's not it's a bit

1193
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 1: vi alright, So stay alive. UM, don't go into any

1194
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 1: war zones or anything weird. I think we're gonna be

1195
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 1: We're gonna be with US military the entire time and

1196
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 1: protected by them. So Mark, we'll be with the USO,

1197
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 1: with the USO next week. That's great. UM On Monday

1198
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 1: show coming up, Steve White of NFL Network makes his

1199
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 1: Around the NFL podcast debut. And it's been too long

1200
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 1: we miss her. Connie Fox Colleen will be in a

1201
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 1: for a couple of shows next week because West also

1202
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 1: will be out for someone next week. He's on vacation.

1203
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 1: As I said, he's gonna be like a reds Beat

1204
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 1: reporter by the end of next week. I'm not coming back.

1205
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 1: I fell in love with the national pastime again. Do

1206
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 1: you want to explain the rundown picture? I sent a

1207
01:01:56,280 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 1: picture of it to Colleen and she said, ha, ten pages,

1208
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 1: which one the down? Oh? This one? Yeah? I sent

1209
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:06,400
Speaker 1: a run down in the morning when we go into

1210
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 1: a show with what we're gonna talk about, and it's

1211
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 1: a photo of Erica tam posey uh, dressed like the

1212
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 1: little boy from Radiohead. Okay, computer Um Parano and Android

1213
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 1: and then Katie Nolan I'm a big fan of hers

1214
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 1: already ESPN and then Connie Fox holding a camera. I

1215
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 1: think Eric is a big fan of I'll send this

1216
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 1: photo out for the listeners. It's from the Mall of America,

1217
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 1: right that is Yeah, that's my camera assistant. I like that.

1218
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 1: Erica was good having you producing the show. Thank you,

1219
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 1: thanks for having me. Guys, All right, let's go home.

1220
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 1: This is as signing off for Quiet Storm and the

1221
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 1: the Old Boston called, of course, the loose Cannon behind

1222
01:02:44,320 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 1: the Glass. She's back, baby tell Monday