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Speaker 1: It's awkward.

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Speaker 2: It's awkward Tuesday phone call.

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Speaker 3: Local dating apps are great if you've always dreamed of

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Speaker 3: matching with a self described entrepreneur who sells knives out

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but think of how good your kitchen's going to

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Speaker 3: Oh, pretty sexy. Yeah, but Alexis will tell you. The

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Speaker 3: real magic happens on those international dating apps, where you

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Speaker 3: can get ghosted by dudes in four different time zones

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Speaker 3: all at once. Plus if things go horribly wrong, they're

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Speaker 3: already five thousand miles away from you. Hey, so easy too. Unfortunately, though,

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Speaker 3: an international dating app has caused problems for one of

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Speaker 3: our listeners, which is why Audrey has reached out to

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Speaker 3: us for help.

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Speaker 2: Today.

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Speaker 3: Audrey, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: Hi guys.

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Speaker 1: Oh hey Audrey.

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Speaker 3: You sound awfully perky for somebody who's having problems with

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Speaker 3: the international dating apps.

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Speaker 4: You know what, I am meeting people that I have

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Speaker 4: been listening to for so long. I can't help but

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Speaker 4: be excited about that.

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Speaker 1: Oh I thought you met the people on the dating apps.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, how are you hearing them forever?

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Speaker 3: Okay, you're just excited to be on the show with us.

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Speaker 3: That's cool, We're excited. Can we ask which country or

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Speaker 3: can we guess?

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Speaker 1: Getting way too many countries?

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Speaker 3: Ali, maybe we'll just start with tell us why you've

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Speaker 3: kind of a vague category.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So I've got a friend she's always traveling, right, and

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Speaker 4: he was I literally don't even know where she was

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Speaker 4: for this trip. She's in five different countries in five

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Speaker 1: Does everyone have a friend like that that you're just

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Speaker 1: so jealous of at all times? I'm like, how do

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Speaker 1: you have the funds? And how are you making this happen?

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Speaker 3: You just can't be afraid of endless debt, Brook.

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Speaker 1: That's what it is.

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Speaker 2: Just lose that fear.

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Speaker 3: You can travel wherever you want, however long you want. Yeah, right, Okay,

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Speaker 3: So this is this friend of yours likes to travel

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and she's got this international dating app. Like obviously

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Speaker 4: I don't use it. I never travel. Okay, he's on

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Speaker 4: this app and here's the thing. So she's swiping and

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Speaker 4: she comes across the guy that we know because he's

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Speaker 4: dating one of our other friends.

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Speaker 1: Whoa wait him, wait is she out of the country?

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Speaker 1: When she comes across this guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, while he was traveling, his profile came up to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, you why it's international app. They'll update your location. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but it's like a special app.

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Speaker 4: I guess. I don't know. I forget what she called it.

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Speaker 4: She just sent me the screenshot of our friend's new guy.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think the important part is he is

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Speaker 1: he's got a girlfriend. And this is the dumbest excuse,

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Speaker 1: but like sometimes tender doesn't refresh, Like I'll open it

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Speaker 1: Like he's still on a dating app.

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Speaker 4: It's still a red flag.

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Speaker 3: What's going through your when you hear this when you

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Speaker 4: Mean literally exactly what you said, Like big red flag

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Speaker 4: and we're like, okay, is distressed an old profile, what's

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Speaker 4: going on? But this one's got the It shows you

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Speaker 4: how recently you were active, right, It's like within the

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Speaker 1: So it's interesting because what if he set his location

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know. And honestly, like we haven't

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Speaker 4: We haven't asked because I hope we're wrong. I hope

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Speaker 4: So my vote was like, let's talk to him, Let's

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Speaker 1: But what is he gonna do? Won't he just lie

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Speaker 1: to you? I don't know a calling guy if he's lie,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what if he doesn't even know that that act exists?

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Speaker 3: Like there's hundreds of apps, Henny, there's hundreds of dating

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Speaker 3: profiles with my face and my information on them to

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Speaker 1: I imagine girls using Sure they're very successful.

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Speaker 3: I don't know the numbers, but I think it's in

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Speaker 1: With the pretty impressive just four.

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Speaker 3: I'm lowballing that it could be possible, Audrey, that maybe

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Speaker 3: his picture was stolen to use as a catfish on

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Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, I hope so. But like this is

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Speaker 4: why I wanted to call you, guys, because I've kind

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Speaker 4: but I don't know what to say.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's a good friend move to not like

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Speaker 1: make a huge like blow up everything before you do,

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Speaker 3: So you know how it works, Audrey. We ask my

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Speaker 3: boyfriend for you what what's his name, by the way, THEO?

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Speaker 1: THEO?

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Speaker 1: How well do you know THEO? We don't know that part.

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Speaker 4: I've met him a couple times, Like we've all gone

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Speaker 4: out to dinner a few times together, so like not

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Speaker 3: It'll be interesting to hear how THEO reacts the first

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Speaker 3: and he knows what's going on, that'll tell us a

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Speaker 3: lot like I'm caught like he wanted to.

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Speaker 1: If he's bad at cheating, he'll immediately go, I don't

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Speaker 3: Or is he being honest in that moment? No, does

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Speaker 1: All of his international dating sites.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, don't talk about Luisa like that, bru.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, let's find out.

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Speaker 3: We'll see what THEO has to say after we give

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Speaker 3: phone call to your friend's boyfriend figure out why his

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Speaker 3: profile is up on an international dating app. We're gonna

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Speaker 3: do it with your awkward Tuesday phone call right after this.

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Speaker 2: Hold on, it's awkward.

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Speaker 1: It's Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: It's awkward Tuesday phone call.

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Speaker 3: If you're just joining us for the awkward Tuesday phone call.

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Speaker 3: We're on the phone with a young woman named Audrey

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Speaker 3: who's been nominated by her friend group to do this

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Speaker 3: because one of them came across a guy on an

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Speaker 3: international dating app, a guy that they're already very familiar

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Speaker 3: with because he's seriously dating one of the other girls

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Speaker 3: in their group. Ahow, that is not good, and Audrey

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Speaker 3: decided before they show the dating profile to the girlfriend,

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Speaker 3: they wanted to go through US and contact THEO first

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Speaker 3: to see if maybe, hopefully there's some reasonable explanation for it,

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Speaker 3: or perhaps he was just being catfished. His picture use as.

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Speaker 1: A catfish, right, that's the best case scenario.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, No matter what, though, it's important that we handle

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Speaker 3: this the right way. That's why we've got the experts

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Speaker 3: ready with some top notch equality advice. Yeah, Brook, what

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Speaker 3: do you have for Audrey here?

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Speaker 1: That's right. Here's the thing, Audrey. You need to talk

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Speaker 1: as little as possible in this conversation.

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Speaker 2: Hmm.

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Speaker 4: Oh okay.

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Speaker 1: It's one of those like give a man a rope,

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Speaker 1: you know that analogy. Well, but no, he'll hang himself.

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Speaker 1: The more he talks, he's gonna admit more.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I think you go in, Audrey and you

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Speaker 1: and you say, listen, I don't know what your girlfriend's

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Speaker 1: know you'd never do that. What are we gonna do?

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Speaker 1: And just let him talk Okay, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: because you're gonna be able to tell if he's talking

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Speaker 3: Out, and then ask him if he needs a rope

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Speaker 3: that's one piece of advice. Jose, What do you think

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Speaker 1: You just need to say. Look, if you admit to

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Speaker 3: Now exactly what you and I both know is happening,

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Speaker 3: You're gonna send her the podcast anyways after this, or she.

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Speaker 4: Will find out.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So Brooks advice is to let him do it himself.

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Speaker 3: Jose's advice is to press her and then promise that

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Speaker 4: I mean, I guess I could do Brooks advice first,

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Speaker 4: and then if that doesn't seem to work, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Okay, perfect, Okay, we got a plan A and then

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Speaker 1: I have a great plancy, but we don't have time.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, maybe if we need to play and see Alexis

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Speaker 1: To plancy is always just don't confront anything. Hang out.

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Speaker 4: Honestly, that's normally my plan a all the time, never

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Speaker 3: Well, the good news is we're here to support you

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Speaker 3: if you need any help. I'm sure you got it, though,

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Speaker 3: I'm inn dial theo's number. What he has to say?

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Speaker 4: Here we go? Hello, Hey, hey, hey, this is Audrey

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Speaker 4: Jessica's friend.

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Speaker 2: What what? Why why are you calling me?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? So, like, how are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm fine? Can I help you with some Yeah?

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Speaker 4: the blue. I just I've got a weird question for you. Okay,

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Speaker 4: have you, like ever been on a like a dating

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Speaker 4: app internationally, like an international dating app?

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Speaker 2: Like, have I been to France and used a dating app?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Actually, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: Why are you asking me? That's that's a really weird question.

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Speaker 4: So basically, our friend was traveling and she saw a

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Speaker 2: I don't know, that's not possible. I don't have any

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Speaker 2: About I mean people could fake that stuff. My hobbies

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Speaker 4: I so hear you like, I'm I'm on your side,

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Speaker 4: but like all of our friends know about this profile,

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Speaker 4: and we're gonna talk to Jessica if we're not convinced

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Speaker 4: that this like isn't you you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: I don't appreciate you threatening me that that's not cool.

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Speaker 4: I mean, like, look, if you were in my shoes,

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Speaker 4: wouldn't you do the same thing. Wouldn't you want to

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Speaker 4: that's all I'm doing here.

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Speaker 2: I'd probably mind my own business, is what I do.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to be so real with you. That response

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Speaker 4: alone kind of told me you're doing something that you

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Speaker 4: shouldn't be doing. Well, I'm not so right, So like

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Speaker 4: you wouldn't mind if I show that to Jessica?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would mind, actually, But it's none of your

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Speaker 4: But there's clearly something going on.

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Speaker 2: I need you to just relax and be You're gonna

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Speaker 2: ruin it if.

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Speaker 4: You talk to her, Like what am I ruining a

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Speaker 4: relationship where she's getting cheated on?

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Speaker 2: She's not getting cheated on. I'm using the app, Okay,

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Speaker 2: I admit that, but I'm not using it to date people.

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Speaker 4: You're using the app. So I'm gonna tell Jessica what

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Speaker 2: I want to propose to her in Italian?

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Speaker 3: It makes total sense to me.

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Speaker 1: Who are you dating app to propose to your girlfriend

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Speaker 1: in Italian?

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Speaker 4: Stone?

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Speaker 2: Who are you? Who are of these other people?

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Speaker 3: Boniorno? You're on an international radio show called Burke and

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Speaker 3: Jeffrey in the morning.

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Speaker 2: Audrey, what the hell is going on? Who are all

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Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure they introduced themselves. I got some help.

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Speaker 1: Wait, Audrey, do you believe him that he's going.

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Speaker 4: To propose and not for a second?

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Speaker 3: Okay, we only we didn't hear what the plan was. Yeah, like,

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Speaker 3: if that's true, We're just trying to help Audrey out, because.

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Speaker 2: God, I just wanted to talk to some native Italian

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Speaker 1: Do it properly, native female nat Italian speakers who are

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Speaker 3: Okay, let's not hate on this man's style of loving

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Speaker 3: his girlfriend. Everybody does it differently. He wants to do

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Speaker 1: Why that do you believe him?

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Speaker 3: I'm just willing to hear him out before I crap

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Speaker 2: If if you were rolling with this, look, my girlfriend

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Speaker 2: did a semester in Italy and college. I wanted to

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Speaker 2: get from like the source, the most romantic, accurate way

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Speaker 2: to propose an Italian. I just wanted to know, like,

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Speaker 2: what's your dream way of being proposed to Italian women?

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Speaker 3: Okay, and then they help you practice it the right way.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's exactly right, and sends you picks of them too.

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Speaker 2: They don't send me pick they just have picks on

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Speaker 1: Okay. Well, I'm just trying to figure out how I

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Speaker 1: mean you want to understand why it sounds like kind

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Speaker 1: of a sketchy way to plan a proposal.

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Speaker 2: Right, Like, I didn't think anybody was gonna be in

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Speaker 2: Italy looking up my profile frankly, Like I thought that

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Speaker 2: that would be a lot more discreet than doing it

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Speaker 1: I'm starting, Are I take Spanish lessons on a they

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Speaker 1: live in Spain.

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Speaker 3: At this point, Audrey, you have all the information. What

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Speaker 1: Supposedly you have information?

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Speaker 4: I mean, okay, when are you going to propose to her,

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Speaker 4: like if it? Do you have a plan?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a plan, but I'm not gonna say

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Speaker 2: it on the radio.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, let's turn off the broadcast. Real broadcast is

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Speaker 3: switched off. That's just us.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of fair though, like, like, I feel kind

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Speaker 1: of bad that we blew up as plan. If that's

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Speaker 4: If you don't propose to her in the next two months,

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Speaker 4: I'm going to have to tell.

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Speaker 1: Her who You're gonna sit with us for that long.

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Speaker 4: I'm really skeptical, but that's the best way I can

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Speaker 4: think of to give you the benefit of the doubt.

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Speaker 3: Wowow okay, all right, so THEO that's it. It's official.

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Speaker 3: You have two months to either propose to your girlfriend

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Speaker 3: or I guess fly to Italy and live there permanently.

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Speaker 2: I promise you, she's not going to be disappointed with this.

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Speaker 2: She's going to be happy. Just don't screw it up.

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Speaker 4: Please, we need an update on this one guy.

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Speaker 1: I want to be tagged in proposal pictures, fair, Like,

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Speaker 1: I have.

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Speaker 3: To know for me in my closure? Will you give

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Speaker 3: us the Italian proposal when you come back and you're married.

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Speaker 2: Oh? Sure, I'll do that.

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Speaker 3: Why didn't that sound confident.

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Speaker 4: I'll give you guys anop. I'm going to call you

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Speaker 4: for sure, you say Grozzi?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Grotzi text in to seventy five nine two

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Speaker 3: if you believe them.

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Speaker 1: Brook and Jeffrey in the morning,