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Speaker 1: so I got to talk real quickly about this story

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Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs and dead Spin. Did you all

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Speaker 1: see that little kid, that five year old kid that

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Speaker 1: five year old child who was wearing black face. And

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Speaker 1: so it's since come out. I didn't report on this

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Speaker 1: right away, is there you go? You got the picture

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Speaker 1: David coming through in the clutch like, So just pay

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Speaker 1: attention to that picture, because really showing one side of

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Speaker 1: the kid's face, right, the half of the side that

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Speaker 1: He the dead Spin said that he was offending Native Americans,

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Speaker 1: The kid is a Native American himself. So I've been

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Speaker 1: watching very closely dead Spin get you know, attacked into

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Speaker 1: oblivion over the last couple of days, which they should be.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, as absurd as all of this is,

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Speaker 2: It's just part of who they are.

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Speaker 1: That's how they maintain power by keeping us divided against

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Speaker 1: one another. And as absurd as this story is, I

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden is a doddering old full I mean not

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Speaker 1: I watched him say Deng Jiping, Deng Xiaoping, who's been

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Speaker 1: And this guy is also supposed to be in charge

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Speaker 1: There's probably about thirty minutes thirty minutes left in the truce,

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Speaker 2: You can support Israel and hate Jewish people. Israel is

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Speaker 5: There's not been headings of babies and rapings.

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Speaker 3: I support the right of Palestinians to resist occupation, including

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Speaker 1: As an Arab asking with this context to condemn Hamas

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Speaker 6: The notion that this was a massacre of Jews a

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Speaker 4: To a thank you Your time is it to hear

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Speaker 1: There's been a lot of atrocity propaganda raging, from claims

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Speaker 1: Because I'm telling you, it drives me crazy that their

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Speaker 5: I'll tell you. I'll tell you John.

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Speaker 8: You know, I always try to stay in my lane,

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Speaker 8: They they also, I mean Sean, I'm telling you anyone

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Speaker 8: Give you fifty, I give you, you give me fifty,

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Speaker 5: You know, you just think you can't do it.

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Speaker 8: And eventually it's all gonna come crumbling down when the

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Speaker 8: defeated in twenty twenty two the primary, her primary, she

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Speaker 8: was almost defeated. A lot of people didn't don't realize

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Speaker 8: that we haven't we just haven't had that discussion. She won,

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Speaker 8: eked it out by a few points, and they moved on.

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Speaker 8: But what saved there was that very very energetic anti

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Speaker 8: Semitic vote.

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry, it's just true, true, and it is.

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Speaker 8: And then poor Rebecca got completely blind signed in Michigan

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Speaker 8: when Rashida Belieb beat her in a primary that had

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Speaker 8: been an African American dominated district. She was one of

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Speaker 8: Nancy Pelosi's lieutenants. When she went to Nancy Pelosi at

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Speaker 8: the end of that toward the end of that primary campaign,

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Speaker 8: knowing that she was in trouble, Nancy Pelosi folded because

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Speaker 8: she was afraid of the again pro hamas anti Semitic crowd.

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Speaker 8: She and Nancy Pelosi looked at that district and said,

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Speaker 8: the future is going to be you know, a somewhat radical.

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Speaker 8: You know, there's a Muslim constituency there that's that's radical. Sean,

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Speaker 8: I mean, it's not me, it's not my opinion. Pew

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Speaker 8: Research has studied this. Back in twenty eighteen, after Pew

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Speaker 8: Research had done a survey, we did one in some

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Speaker 8: of these neighborhoods asking very simple questions, do you think

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Speaker 8: that shari law, you know, should should supersede? Should you know,

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Speaker 8: constitutional law in this country? I mean majorities believe that, John,

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Speaker 8: I mean they did so again.

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Speaker 5: And it's not just big data pol and Rich Barrison.

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Speaker 5: You know there's a right wing get all polster. They

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Speaker 5: love to, you know, to characterize me as this Pew

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Speaker 5: Research man.

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Speaker 8: I mean, this is a left wing outfit that first

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Speaker 8: did a study that prompted me to look at it

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Speaker 8: as well.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 1: Look, you you of course lead me right to where

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Speaker 1: I want to go as you typically do.

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Speaker 2: We got we got a good thing going here, Savage Rich.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I mean what what I First

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Speaker 1: of all, you know, anybody that's watching or listens to

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Speaker 1: this show knows that I appreciate the accuracy of your polling.

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Speaker 1: I think that, yes, we're both conservatives, there's no qualms

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Speaker 1: about it. But you don't let that cloud your judgment.

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Speaker 1: You don't, you never have, And I think that I

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Speaker 1: appreciate that. I tell people all the time that you're

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Speaker 1: probably the most accurate polster out there, one that I trust,

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Speaker 1: like at the.

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Speaker 2: Top, top top.

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Speaker 1: But why it seems like like you The reason why

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Speaker 1: I came up with the name Savage Rich is because

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're it feels like you're not putting up

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Speaker 1: with a lot of bs anymore on Twitter. You haven't

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Speaker 1: for quite some time now. But the reason for that

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Speaker 1: that you're not putting you don't want to put up

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Speaker 1: with stuff. It seems like it is people are always

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Speaker 1: attacking you, like trying to pigeonhole you as some crazy

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Speaker 1: right wing Trump guy, and it seems like you're held

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Speaker 1: to this ridiculous standard where all these other polsters out

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Speaker 1: there are complete mouth breathers and they miss by like

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Speaker 1: ten points. No one gives a damn about how inaccurate

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Speaker 1: they are. But they come after you and it's like,

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Speaker 1: I've never seen you miss. I mean, no, he's but

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Speaker 1: I've never.

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Speaker 5: Seen you miss.

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Speaker 8: Say this right here, right now, I have never ever

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Speaker 8: had a major miss in a final poll. And this

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Speaker 8: is what they do. And honestly, I don't know how

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Speaker 8: other polsters. You know, Jim Lee, it's Usquehanna's he's a

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Speaker 8: tough dude too, you know, and they'll tell people where

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Speaker 8: to stick it if he has to. But I don't

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Speaker 8: know why others are not more vocal about this. You know,

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Speaker 8: for Spencer Kimball at Emerson, he gets beat up all

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Speaker 8: the time. Spencer Kimball's final poll in twenty twenty was.

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Speaker 5: Biden plus five. The rest of those jokes.

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Speaker 8: That call him, you know, like low cost pulling, right

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Speaker 8: leaning polling, you know, wildly missed in twenty twenty. And

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Speaker 8: this is the way I kind of, I mean, I

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Speaker 8: don't take crap, but I do take those criticisms with

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Speaker 8: a chuckle on a smile, because frankly, Sean with success

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Speaker 8: comes haters. This is what I tweeted before it's one

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Speaker 8: hundred percent truth, and with those haters comes criticism, and

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Speaker 8: that's fine.

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Speaker 5: But when your haters, which are jealous, these are jealous people.

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Speaker 8: When your haters have either have got to resort to

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Speaker 8: a few things.

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Speaker 5: One flatby line, you.

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Speaker 8: Know, like the one that's in that thread is like

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Speaker 8: he had Walker winning in Georgia by seven.

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Speaker 5: Uh no, he didn't, right, that wasn't our final poll.

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Speaker 5: He said Brian Kemp was going to lose yet in April,

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Speaker 5: and then our final poll was Camp plus seven.

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Speaker 8: So I mean they have to twist things in lie

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Speaker 8: or just hold you to a ridiculous standard that that

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Speaker 8: that really is a disservice to the industry because I

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Speaker 8: see this all the time.

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Speaker 5: No upholster is perfect. You're gonna have missus.

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Speaker 8: There are things called sampling errors for a reason, and

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Speaker 8: sometimes even outside of his sampling error, you're bound to

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Speaker 8: get it wrong.

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Speaker 5: I've been telling my followers.

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Speaker 8: This for years because people are used to seeing in

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Speaker 8: your state, Pennsylvania, I mean I was literally off two

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Speaker 8: tenths of a percentage point combining in the state of

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Speaker 8: Pennsylvania in twenty sixteen. In twenty twenty, who did it again?

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Speaker 8: I mean, you know, we've had missus both ways. When

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Speaker 8: I say miss I mean like we just did Minnesota,

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Speaker 8: and there are people because there was another poll in

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Speaker 8: Minnesota release, which by the way, tracks very closely to ours.

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Speaker 5: They have Biden up a little, we have Trump.

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Speaker 8: Up a little in the head to head, but then

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Speaker 8: when you add the third party, it gets a little

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Speaker 8: bit crazy. Biden takes a lead in one of the hypotheticals.

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Speaker 8: Very close still, right, So in twenty twenty, we our

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Speaker 8: final poll was Biden plus ten. We overstated Biden by

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Speaker 8: about seven points.

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Speaker 5: That's normal.

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Speaker 8: You should have these misses in both directions. Otherwise there's

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Speaker 8: a problem with your methodology if you consistently miss one way.

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Speaker 8: So if you're always overstating Biden or Democrats in general,

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Speaker 8: or you're always overstating Republicans or Trump in general, you're

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Speaker 8: doing that's a bias somewhere in your methodology. So you

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Speaker 8: should be like what we did. We overstated Biden in

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Speaker 8: Michigan a little bit. We overstated him in Wisconsin a

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Speaker 8: little bit, or in Minnesota. Excuse me, we weren't overstating

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Speaker 8: in Michigan.

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Speaker 5: We're dead on.

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Speaker 8: And these these people are just like or they have

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Speaker 8: to resort themselves to being dishonest and you know, saying

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Speaker 8: things that are demonstrably false in order to criticize.

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Speaker 5: And that's fine.

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Speaker 8: That's why I've been around as long as I have

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Speaker 8: in the face of all these attacks. That's why I

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Speaker 8: outlive Nate Silver, who banned me from his stupid little

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Speaker 8: website because he didn't like my criticism.

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Speaker 5: All right, this is.

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Speaker 8: Why I outlive these losers, because even if I am wrong,

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Speaker 8: I've been that transparent as much to my followers, you know,

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Speaker 8: to people who know me and follow me, like, look,

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Speaker 8: you know I've I've been so transparent. At least they

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Speaker 8: know that I'm not doing this with any you know,

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Speaker 8: I'm trying to do my best, is what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: And I'm being honest about it.

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Speaker 8: And fortunately for me, I've had a lot less missus

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Speaker 8: than everybody else.

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Speaker 5: So I mean, today that starts happening, then you know.

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Speaker 2: You're completely right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, with success comes you know, no sayers, critics

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Speaker 1: and people who attack you. That's a good It means

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Speaker 1: you're over the target, you know, and the fact that

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Speaker 1: you don't back down to people that throw bullshit your way,

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Speaker 1: I think is great. But you're also not one of

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Speaker 1: those guys who gets so set in their ways that

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Speaker 1: they don't want to change their methodology. I mean, you're

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Speaker 1: you think critically about this stuff, and that's what I appreciate.

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Speaker 1: I want to get your take on the Weekend interviews

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Speaker 1: with Chris Christy aka Garden State Lizo, and I mean,

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Speaker 1: he was talking.

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Speaker 2: Okay, he's okay, that's what we call it. That's what

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Speaker 2: we call it. I'm sorry living in.

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Speaker 8: That statement as long as I as long as I

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Speaker 8: did in the past, that just struck me as really funny.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's crazy.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy that I used to watch Chris Christy, you know,

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Speaker 1: as at the Republican Convention in twenty twelve.

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Speaker 2: I spoke at one of the stages off the main stage.

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Speaker 2: And this is before I had run for any political office.

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Speaker 1: But I used to kind of like his brashes.

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Speaker 2: At the time.

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Speaker 1: It was a complete political novice. I didn't really know

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Speaker 1: what the hell I was talking about. And this is

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Speaker 1: really before Trump and the rise of populism in America.

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Speaker 1: First it was, it was a different time in the party.

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Speaker 1: But I am it never ceases to amaze me, how

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Speaker 1: when I watch him speak now his style just sickens me.

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Speaker 1: And I watched him on these Sunday shows and actually

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Speaker 1: his comments on abortion, I agree with just all cards

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Speaker 1: on the table about having a nuanced message about it.

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Speaker 2: We've talked about that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's saying, Oh, we're on the rise and we're winning.

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Speaker 2: What do you make of that?

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Speaker 8: You know, I think it's Chris Cassy is a sad character.

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Speaker 8: I remember in twenty fifteen I.

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Speaker 5: Wrote an article.

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Speaker 8: The then editor finance editor of Cound Hall like flipped

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Speaker 8: out and sent me this really dirty email about how

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Speaker 8: stupid I am.

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Speaker 5: And we got into this public back and forth and

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Speaker 5: it was it was hilarious.

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Speaker 8: And my argument was, yeah, I just blow people up, Like, listen,

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Speaker 8: don't do something stupid to me if you don't want

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Speaker 8: it to be aired out, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 8: Because I'm gonna do it like drunk telephone calls from

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Speaker 8: dumb people in the middle of the night when I

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Speaker 8: have children. I'm gonna post that on Twitter. So this

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Speaker 8: is what the guy had argued. You know that Jeb

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Speaker 8: Bush was a better way forward, even maybe a Scott Walker.

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Speaker 8: And I had nothing against Scott Walker, but to me,

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Speaker 8: before Trump came on the scene I had even in

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Speaker 8: Jersey many years ago, argued that somebody like Chris Prissy

631
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Speaker 8: is physically, you know, horrific to look at as he is,

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Speaker 8: he speaks like a normal person and he can get

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Speaker 8: through that barrier by being a normal guy in talking

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Speaker 8: the way that most people from Jersey talk to each other,

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Speaker 8: and that he was going to win in a landslide

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Speaker 8: in re election, but you know, there would be a

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Speaker 8: long way to go because governor races are just different

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Speaker 8: John they are. I mean, he had bullied people, longtime bosses,

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Speaker 8: neighborhood bosses, democratic bosses, into supporting him, so he got

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Speaker 8: them to turn out to vote for him. He played hardball,

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Speaker 8: and that's fine, that's Jersey for you.

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Speaker 5: I'm not holding that against him.

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Speaker 8: That's actually what I liked about him, that he recognized

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Speaker 8: the world as it was, and you know, you you

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Speaker 8: deal with what you have in front of you instead

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Speaker 8: of this like, you know, ridiculous fantasy about how politics

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Speaker 8: in the world is in your own stupid little brain,

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Speaker 8: which you keep losing every election, and you know, the

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Speaker 8: brain size just shrinks every year and you don't know

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Speaker 8: how to adjustin I thought he was refreshing that being

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Speaker 8: said he dealt with Trump coming on the scene man

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Speaker 8: and taking his lane like a gentleman. What really happened

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Speaker 8: for people who don't know out there and I gain

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Speaker 8: here I go, I'm about to go blow it up.

655
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Speaker 8: What really happened is Chris Christy started to sour on

656
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Speaker 8: Donald Trump when Trump was first inaugurated and being you know,

657
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Speaker 8: going through his transition. There was a clash between Alabama

658
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Speaker 8: really people supporter of Jeff Session and Chris Christy, and

659
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Speaker 8: Christy wanted to flood the administration.

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Speaker 5: With lobbyists and sky back exactly right the president and listen,

661
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Speaker 5: this is to the truth. Folks. Listen up.

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Speaker 8: The President said, I just gave a Gettysburg address where

663
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Speaker 8: I said I'm not doing that. And by the way,

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Speaker 8: if you work here, your banned from being a lobbyist

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Speaker 8: for X number of years.

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Speaker 5: That's the way it is.

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00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 8: He was pissed, he lost that fight, and then after

668
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Speaker 8: that he had nowhere else to go. You know, they've

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Speaker 8: been throwing a little little gigs here and there.

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Speaker 5: You know, Sean.

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Speaker 8: Obe, the head of the redistrict in Committee, what a

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Speaker 8: fine job he did with that, right, I mean totally

673
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 8: blew that as well.

674
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Speaker 5: The total catastrophe.

675
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Speaker 8: So I know he's just looking for relevance, but this

676
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:43,240
Speaker 8: idea he's rising and he thinks, I'm telling you, somebody

677
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Speaker 8: played me part.

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00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,240
Speaker 5: Of a call they had with Chris Christy.

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Speaker 8: He thinks he's going to beat DeSantis and Haley in

680
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 8: New Hampshire like badly.

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Speaker 5: I'm I hope that tape was public, all right.

682
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Speaker 8: Because he's so confident in himself, and they asked me

683
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Speaker 8: in the The only thing I could think of is

684
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 8: what I told doctor Gorky yesterday. His unfavorability rating among

685
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Speaker 8: New Hampshire primary voters is now that Mike Pence is

686
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Speaker 8: out is the worst.

687
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Speaker 5: So he's seen as far as he's going to climb.

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00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,320
Speaker 8: I mean, could he climb a little bit more, sure,

689
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Speaker 8: But with Haley and DeSantis also there, there's just not

690
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Speaker 8: much room. Haley will take that lane from him. You know,

691
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 8: it's a moderate lane in New Hampshire. President Trump is

692
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 8: like perfect candidate to straddle that field, and if you

693
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Speaker 8: want to beat him, it would in that state, it's

694
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 8: going to be extreme, it would be I'm not saying

695
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 8: nothing's impossible, but it's at this point the lanes have closed.

696
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,760
Speaker 8: So Christy would need Haley to get out in order

697
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 8: for him to rise significantly more than where he is

698
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 8: because he's not really sharing.

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00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 5: That lane with DeSantis.

700
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Speaker 8: DeSantis is a tiny bit of never Trump that thinks

701
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 8: they're more conservative than Christy and they don't like them

702
00:36:58,080 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 8: because of what you said with abortion.

703
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 5: They don't like that.

704
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Speaker 8: So that's DeSantis's vote plus a still kind of maga

705
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 8: component that would rather try to move on although he's

706
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 8: losing them more and more every day, you know, so

707
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Speaker 8: he would need Haley to leave. I mean, the truth

708
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 8: is Christy's probably going to outperform DeSantis. But to say

709
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 8: at this moment if the vote was today or tomorrow

710
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 8: and to say he beat Haley and DeSantis, I think

711
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 8: the guy's bordering on delusion.

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00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:30,280
Speaker 5: I really do. I I heard brother, it's delusion.

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Speaker 1: I hope that they make I hope that they make

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Speaker 1: that tape public. But speaking to Nicky Haley and speaking

715
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Speaker 1: of Nicky Haley and Rond de Santis, Rich there seems

716
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,720
Speaker 1: to be this fracture in the in the Republican primary

717
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: right now.

718
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 2: It feels to.

719
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Speaker 1: Me that there is some I mean, obviously Rond de

720
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: Santis Nicky Haley are attacking each other Nicky Haley in

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Speaker 1: and certainly I think in Iowa and some other caucus

722
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Speaker 1: states has surpassed Rond de Santis in the polling. I

723
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Speaker 1: saw in avent that Nicki Haley did, and I think

724
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Speaker 1: it was Iowa that looks like she had a legitimate turnout.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you never know, you never know that, you

726
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 1: never know of that stuff, right, I mean it's sometimes

727
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Speaker 1: assist that you've got a great, you know, campaign that's

728
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 1: does great outreach and he feels yeah, right right, I

729
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: mean Trump, you can't fake what he has, right when

730
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Speaker 1: he's got Butler County, Pennsylvania in twenty twenty, in the

731
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Speaker 1: middle of nowhere, sixty thousand.

732
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Speaker 2: People can't fake that.

733
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Speaker 1: But you know, Nicki Haley, it certainly seems like I

734
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Speaker 1: don't watch a whole a lot of Fox News anymore.

735
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Speaker 1: I don't, but it certainly seems like Fox News and

736
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Speaker 1: all of the billionaire class donors are abandoning the DeSantis

737
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Speaker 1: and throwing their clout behind Haley as the one last

738
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Speaker 1: chance to stop Trump.

739
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Speaker 2: What do you make of that?

740
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Speaker 5: You correct, that's what this is. Murdoch Inc.

741
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Speaker 8: Has given up on Rohn Descants and they're giving glowing

742
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Speaker 8: coverage Nicki Haley like twenty four.

743
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Speaker 5: To seven posts on Fox News to Wall Street Journal.

744
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Speaker 5: You can see DeSantis followers his little influencers on social media.

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Speaker 8: They're rightly upset because they feel like betrayed by this.

746
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,399
Speaker 8: But look, you know it's time for them to start

747
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Speaker 8: taking responsibility for their terrible you know, not just actions.

748
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Speaker 8: I mean, these were largely a bunch of amateurs who

749
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Speaker 8: thought they knew more about politics than they did, and

750
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Speaker 8: they don't, you know, so they may and they got

751
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 8: this debate coming up as a textbook example. Sean whining

752
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 8: that Trump supporters are rooting for Newsome instead of acknowledging

753
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 8: the truth is ridiculous and then hyping expectations. This is

754
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Speaker 8: why Haley s are past him in many states. Because

755
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Speaker 8: we just pulled Iowa. He's still ahead of our in

756
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 8: r poll in Iowa, but it's close, and I'm wondering

757
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 8: if she's fizzling, because you know, she's got to do

758
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 8: better with self identified conservatives than she is right now

759
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 8: if she wants to surpass him in Iowa or really

760
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Speaker 8: take second in New Hampshire. It's really not close. She's

761
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Speaker 8: ahead of him in South Carolina. She's ahead of him.

762
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Speaker 5: In I think it was Michigan. I'd have to go

763
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Speaker 5: back and look Pennsylvania. She's ahead of him.

764
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Speaker 8: We just pulled that she's the second choice or about

765
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Speaker 8: even just about everywhere outside of that, you know, outside

766
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Speaker 8: of that very very conservative caucus environment.

767
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 5: And again they.

768
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Speaker 8: Refuse to like look at themselves in the mirror and

769
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 8: say what they're doing wrong. This is a perfect This

770
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Speaker 8: debate again is a perfect example. I mean, Sean, think

771
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 8: about this for a second. All right, So, oh, you're

772
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Speaker 8: rooting for Newsom, Right have they stopped to consider because

773
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Speaker 8: only they think, and they wrongly think, because there's objective

774
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 8: and they're subjective. Only they wrongly think that Ron DeSantis

775
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:50,720
Speaker 8: is a good debater, my friend. Okay, nobody else leaves

776
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 8: that in the rest of the world understand this.

777
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 5: Only your nine.

778
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,720
Speaker 8: Percent believes this. The rest of us are looking at you, guys,

779
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 8: like what are you looking at? And I get maybe

780
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 8: some people really think he's wonky and they love it.

781
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 5: I guess what. You cannot win elections like that.

782
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 1: All right, So you're you're right, You're right. And I

783
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 1: got to tell you this is the whole thing, this

784
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: whole thing with this, this whole thing with Newsom and DeSantis.

785
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: I mean to me, this is an unbelievable strategic mistake

786
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: for a campaign in excuse inexcusably so at the presidential

787
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: level because Gavin Newsom is not your opponent. You don't

788
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,720
Speaker 1: campaign against people that you're not running against.

789
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 2: And he has everything to lose in that scenario.

790
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 1: And to your point about Ron DeSantis, I mean, is

791
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 1: he a great debater?

792
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 6: No?

793
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 2: Is he a terrible debater?

794
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 1: No?

795
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 2: But he's going up against Gavin Newsom and look.

796
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 5: He wiped the floor with John Hannity.

797
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 8: He wiped the floor with Sean Hannity in the spin room, Sean,

798
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 8: can we get real Hannity By the way, they think

799
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 8: he's going to jump in and save that is save

800
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 8: him every time Newsom goes on in the attack and

801
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 8: makes him look like a fool or lies. I know

802
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 8: he's gonna lie, and nobody's disputing that. The style and

803
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 8: it's how you deliver it, and he's gonna The likelihood

804
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 8: that he wipes the floor with both Hannity and DeSantis

805
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 8: is very high. And forget about the risk it poses

806
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 8: to DeSantis campaign.

807
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 5: What about the risk it poses to the damn movement.

808
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 8: That you as the leader of the red Big State

809
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 8: went against the blue big state leader and got your

810
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 8: butt kick.

811
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:31,399
Speaker 5: It's good.

812
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 8: It's damaging to the movement, but you put yourself first

813
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 8: again again.

814
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 5: So I hope he wipes the floor with Newsom personally

815
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 5: me rich back, I hope he does.

816
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 8: I have zero faith because I watch Gillim destroy him.

817
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 8: I watched Charlie Christ basically mop the floor with this guy.

818
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 8: Are you thinking Gavin Newsom's not gonna have fun with him?

819
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 8: And by the way, Hannity and Newsom are buddies. So

820
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 8: if you think he's gonna come run into your rescue,

821
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 8: every time he's got you, he's got you and across

822
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 8: you know, against the ropes.

823
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:06,479
Speaker 5: Good luck, good exactly right? Is right happen? My friend?

824
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 5: I hope it's not. I hope he prepares, but.

825
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 2: It don't hurt him. But yeah, you don't.

826
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Speaker 1: You don't campaign against people that you're not running against,

827
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: as as someone who's run two campaigns. You don't divert

828
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 1: your attention and your fire somewhere else voted, even in desperation.

829
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 2: It makes no sense.

830
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Speaker 1: And and you know, I think with DeSantis because I

831
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Speaker 1: have to tell you, I want to get your take

832
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 1: on this quickly before I moved to some of your

833
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: new polling in Minnesota in Wisconsin. But DeSantis, you know,

834
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: I think when he first we talked about loyalty, and

835
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,959
Speaker 1: I think that our base, especially Trump supporters, they don't

836
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: like the fact that he's been such he's he's not

837
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,879
Speaker 1: been kind to Trump on the trail at all, even

838
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: though he owes his job and his political career to Trump.

839
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:00,040
Speaker 1: People don't like that.

840
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Speaker 8: But now I think a Trump onsie to win an election.

841
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Speaker 2: I know, I know, and you're can you say you're fired?

842
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 2: Can you say you're fired?

843
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 8: You know?

844
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:15,439
Speaker 2: Yeah?

845
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: And and but now I think people see that, you know,

846
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,919
Speaker 1: he just doesn't have it. He doesn't have it rich

847
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 1: and if you're going to run for president, you have

848
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 1: to have it. It's just something, it's intangible. Trump has it,

849
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: he has it in spades. Newsom has it. He on

850
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: the Democrat side, he's got it in space, got it.

851
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: DeSantis does not. And to me, you know, it seems

852
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 1: to me that it's Iowa or nothing for him. I

853
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 1: feel like his campaign is over with now. But if

854
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: he doesn't have a strong showing in Iowa, he doesn't

855
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: somehow win, Where's he go because he's gonna lose. No,

856
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: he's gonna lose in New Hampshire, he's gonna lose in

857
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: South Carolina.

858
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 2: He doesn't seem to have a delegate.

859
00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 8: Path and and Sean even if he wants to win

860
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 8: in Iowa, as Harry Enton and everyone else who is

861
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 8: not on the political spectrum with Donald Trump and Ron

862
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 8: desanthis being objective analysis, you know, giving objective analysis. It's

863
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 8: not nineteen ninety nine or two thousand anymore. George Bush

864
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 8: was able to use the Iowa caucuses to beat John McCain.

865
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 8: The Republican electorate does not look like that anymore. They

866
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 8: think everything is still two thousand and four. This is

867
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 8: the Iowa Hail Mary strategy, and it has buried more

868
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 8: campaigns than it ever launched into the presidency. This is

869
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 8: what the Bob vander Platzs do. This is what the

870
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Speaker 8: Carl Rose do, this is what the Jeff Rose do.

871
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Speaker 8: And they kill campaigns. That's all that, that's all they've

872
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Speaker 8: ever done. He ran so far to the right to

873
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 8: try to just make himself, you know, different than Donald

874
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 8: Trump and the Iowa caucuses that he has nowhere to

875
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 8: go even if he wins. Nicky Haley's campaign starting a

876
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 8: couple of weeks ago, must have been three weeks ago now,

877
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 8: campaign manager sending out notes to donors, sending out memos,

878
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 8: and I remember when I read the first one that

879
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 8: a buddy of mine who is the Texas donor, sent

880
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 8: to me, and it was like, you got to see

881
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 8: this and what she said is what you just said,

882
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 8: only she laid out the man and she was he

883
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:19,479
Speaker 8: has no delegate path.

884
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 5: He has nowhere after Iowa to go.

885
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 8: We are the only ones who have not only the

886
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 8: money in the infrastructure because he's he's got a super

887
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,399
Speaker 8: pack running his campaign right now, dangerously on the line

888
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 8: by the way of federal law.

889
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 5: But I think he already broke laws.

890
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 2: I do.

891
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 5: I think.

892
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 8: I think never back down and the campaign have already

893
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,879
Speaker 8: coordinated illegally, and I think they broke laws.

894
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 5: And I think it's going to come back to bite him.

895
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 5: I don't want it to.

896
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 8: I'm just saying you cannot meet with donors in the

897
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 8: same places you can.

898
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: Anonymous, I mean the brandymous. I mean people associate DeSantis

899
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: with never back down. He's driving around in a bus

900
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: that says never back.

901
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 5: Down, and you can't do that. John and they have to.

902
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 8: They have to get events where they headline other people to.

903
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 5: Satisfy the law.

904
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Speaker 8: And I don't know how they're going to do that,

905
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 8: because at this point they're running out of money to

906
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 8: run events for Desandis. They can't have they can't have

907
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 8: events where they just throw money at nothing just to

908
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 8: be in compliance with the law.

909
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,240
Speaker 5: I don't know how that. Maybe they will, maybe they'll

910
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 5: maybe they'll.

911
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 8: Run shadow events or skeleton crew events. Maybe that's how

912
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 8: they plan on doing it. I don't know, but I mean,

913
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 8: I've seen this over and over. You know, Ted Cruz

914
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 8: the dirty little trick at the end of the Iowa

915
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,959
Speaker 8: Caucuses which cost him Ben Carson's endorsement. By the way,

916
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 8: you're not going to be able to pull that against

917
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 8: somebody who's got a twenty five to thirty five point lead.

918
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 8: And we just pulled Iowa. We did, we put it

919
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 8: out there. I don't mind that. I'm a little bit

920
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 8: more bullish on Trump than others were. Right actually in

921
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 8: there with Iowa, Iowa State University, and everyone's obsessed with

922
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 8: the des Moin Pole. The Moin pole has been wrong

923
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 8: since oh eight, they have. I mean, you go look

924
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Speaker 8: it up. You know, the only reason why in twenty

925
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 8: twenty either of the RCP averages for the Caucasus were

926
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 8: right was because of the CIVICX ball. I mean, these

927
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 8: guys don't get the credit that they deserve. The Moinn

928
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 8: Pole is like a brand, a staple, so they get

929
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 8: all that. The truth is in the last both of

930
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 8: the last cycle, they in sixteen and twenty, they were

931
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 8: more accurate than the Moin Pole.

932
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Speaker 5: So I'm happy to be over there with them. You know.

933
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 8: I'm pretty sure I know why we're out a little

934
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 8: bit of the mainstream, and I think we're right, you know,

935
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 8: So I'm okay to be there.

936
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Speaker 5: I'm comfortable being there. But I actually because of.

937
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 8: What you said, never back down being synonymous with DeSantis.

938
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 8: All we heard doing that poll showing from people who

939
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Speaker 8: were leaving DeSantis, he fell about three and a half points.

940
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 5: All we heard, which is.

941
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 8: I'm sick of the attacks them sick and never back down.

942
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 8: I mean we heard this constantly, and Haley rose from

943
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 8: like three percent in August in our Aria Caucus bowl,

944
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 8: she rose over ten points to be just Pulo ron

945
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Speaker 8: de Santis, and people were telling us he's been here,

946
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 8: We've been flooded. You know, you cannot buy our vote,

947
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:05,479
Speaker 8: and there comes a point where you have to stop

948
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 8: attacking and you have to tell us what else about you?

949
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 8: You know, do we need to know for you to

950
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Speaker 8: earn our support. It seems like they thought they were

951
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 8: going to be able to run with this Trump is

952
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 8: int electable. I'm the real maga that can win, and

953
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 8: when that went wrong, they have they just started attacking

954
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 8: and voters are over that crap man. They are over it,

955
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 8: and they're just some looking for another home who said,

956
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 8: you know, I'll stick with Haley.

957
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 5: They were with Scott.

958
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 8: A lot of them were like kind of bouncing between

959
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 8: the Santas and Scott.

960
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 5: And now Scott's gone, he dropped out. Vivek Fel. It's Iowa.

961
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 5: I totally expected that.

962
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 8: But he's not making an argument. What's your presidential justification?

963
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 8: Can somebody tell me what the.

964
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:55,919
Speaker 5: Santas campaign's justification is? For every presidential candidate needs one.

965
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 5: What's his?

966
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 1: You know you are are one hundred percent correct. In fact,

967
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: you have got to define who you are first to

968
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:09,800
Speaker 1: voters before attacks even land in the first place, because

969
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 1: if people don't know who you are, you can't draw

970
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: a contrast. In campaigns that are well run, that are

971
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 1: well oiled machines, candidates can and should be able to

972
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:23,879
Speaker 1: get on stage and offer a contrast. This is what

973
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 1: my opponent's doing, this is what I will do differently.

974
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: And you can't just attack first if people don't know

975
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,399
Speaker 1: who the hell you are. And I have to say

976
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 1: another thing before you get to the sext boro because

977
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: I just I want to talk about your new polling.

978
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:41,760
Speaker 1: But electability arguments this is a novice thing. They don't work.

979
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: They don't work, especially in primary. It's amazing to me

980
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 1: that almost every national TV interview that I see where

981
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: he gets an opportunity to say, is basically says Trump

982
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 1: can't win.

983
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:51,439
Speaker 2: I can.

984
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 1: Republican base voters don't give a damn about that. They

985
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: don't work, they don't persuade people. It's not effective, and

986
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 1: it's just it's just a card. It's a huge mistake

987
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: that the Santas is making. But okay, tell me about

988
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: you got to tell me about Minnesota, Wisconsin, because it

989
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 1: seems like you're polling and it, I mean, it has

990
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 1: Trump winning in critical battleground skate states. And if I'm

991
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: reading the polls right and watching what you're saying on

992
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 1: your shows, it looks like Trump is in a dead

993
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: heat in Minnesota. Does he actually have a snowballs chance

994
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 1: in hell to win in Minnesota?

995
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 5: I actually do think he does. And I'm gonna tell

996
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:29,479
Speaker 5: you why.

997
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 8: I mean, honestly, in twenty sixteen, I think we were

998
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 8: the only poll the show. It was close, and we

999
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 8: had Hillary up by like two points to something.

1000
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 5: Right.

1001
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 8: Then in twenty twenty, it didn't look close, you know,

1002
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 8: I mean, it looked like Biden had a lead.

1003
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:45,399
Speaker 5: Trump closed it a little bit.

1004
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 8: But again, our final poll was Biden plus and he

1005
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 8: won by seven. So even with Trump closing at the

1006
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 8: last minute a few points, something clearly went wrong and

1007
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 8: the Trump campaign ignored Minnesota in twenty twenty, whereas Evannon

1008
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 8: knew that they had a shot, he was ignoring the polls,

1009
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:06,280
Speaker 8: and he knew they had a shot in sixteen, and

1010
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:10,479
Speaker 8: he did divert the president over to Minnesota for a

1011
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 8: single visit. And this is why I would say he does,

1012
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 8: because Iowa and Ohio, Florida, which is in in this

1013
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 8: latest round of polls. But I've done Florida now twice

1014
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 8: or three times. Sorry, they're not close. So when you

1015
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 8: know you're winning. And by the way, Iowa and Ohio,

1016
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 8: other Republican candidates would have to defend them, They would

1017
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 8: have to spend a lot of time in those states

1018
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 8: for a general Trump doesn't.

1019
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 5: I'm not saying to ignore these people. I'm just saying, unlike.

1020
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,879
Speaker 8: Twenty twenty, don't believe what your consultants tell you. Don't

1021
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 8: believe the polls that will come out. Get ready for it, guys.

1022
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:51,240
Speaker 8: I'm telling you they will pivot soon. All right, Ignore

1023
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:55,280
Speaker 8: them because Ohio is never close with Donald Trump. Iowa

1024
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 8: is not close with Donald Trump. He is a different

1025
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 8: kind of Republican. And you can spend your time, you know,

1026
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 8: saying hello to the flarda voters, sing a load to

1027
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 8: these voters, but beating down the doors of states that

1028
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 8: Democrats need to defend, and Minnesota is.

1029
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 5: One of them. You know, I would.

1030
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 8: I mean, I have the route in my head, Sean,

1031
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 8: I mean there is I'm looking at the numbers and

1032
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 8: there are basically three spots on the map in Minnesota

1033
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 8: that I would just keep going to. And I do

1034
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 8: think he could flip Minnesota.

1035
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:26,319
Speaker 5: I do.

1036
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 8: And there's a couple of couple of things that are competitive.

1037
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 5: So it's really close.

1038
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 8: With JFK RFK excuse me, and RFK alone, Biden actually

1039
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 8: takes the lead. But then with all of the West

1040
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 8: and Stein and Kennedy and Trump and Biden, then Biden

1041
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 8: falls more and Trump retakes the lead. So what we

1042
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,879
Speaker 8: found is not just Minnesota and all of the six

1043
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 8: states we pulled, there's a point when you add all

1044
00:53:56,760 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 8: these candidates to the ballot, there's a point that Trump's

1045
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 8: vote shares, you know, his level of support just refuses

1046
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:08,359
Speaker 8: to fall any further. And even though Biden benefits from

1047
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 8: likely voters more than Trump does, ire turnout will benefit Trump.

1048
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:14,839
Speaker 5: Let me just put that out that out there.

1049
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 8: There's still so much dissatisfaction with him that if there

1050
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 8: are alternative there will be some young voters who go

1051
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 8: for those alternatives. There will be some other Democratic constituencies

1052
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 8: that will go for those alternatives. And then also this

1053
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 8: non white vote shift is real. And you know, when

1054
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 8: we put out Minnesota, I went back and looked at

1055
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,919
Speaker 8: twenty twenty, he was hardly getting any of the black

1056
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 8: vote in Minnesota in our twenty twenty polling.

1057
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 5: Now he's crushing it.

1058
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:50,319
Speaker 1: It's real, and it's the DeSantis campaign is out there

1059
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: attacking Trump right now for getting an endorsement yesterday from

1060
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 1: a Black Lives Matter leader. Trump wants to support a

1061
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter You win campaigns through addition, not subtraction.

1062
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 2: So I mean, you know, of.

1063
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 1: Course Trump doesn't support Black Lives Matter burning down cities

1064
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 1: across the country. He was president during all of that.

1065
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 1: He knows very well that chaos and loads it and

1066
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:20,839
Speaker 1: despises despises that. But I'm sure that that anybody that's

1067
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 1: even has a basic understanding of campaigns knows that you win,

1068
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 1: especially in general elections in the United States of America,

1069
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:31,760
Speaker 1: through addition and not subtraction, adding voters.

1070
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 8: And by the way, they're constantly attacking people who know

1071
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 8: the same people, by the way, who hated jd Vance.

1072
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 8: This is the same people running the DeSantis campaign ran

1073
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 8: Josh Mandela's campaign. You know, I'm sorry, but Josh, you

1074
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,240
Speaker 8: had it all to yourself and being your wife convinced

1075
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 8: you to step out, and then you came back in

1076
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,800
Speaker 8: when it was just a different era and throwing dirty

1077
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 8: shade at people is is not right. It's just not

1078
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 8: so this idea that people like jd Vance and others,

1079
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 8: so they didn't support Trump immediately.

1080
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 5: They you know, voted for Barack Obama.

1081
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 8: So what even if vivec denies, but who cares even

1082
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 8: if it was true.

1083
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 5: I'll tell you. Let me put it this way. The

1084
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 5: converts to America first seem to be.

1085
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,840
Speaker 8: A lot more loyal and firm than people who have

1086
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 8: pretended to be Republicans for years.

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Speaker 5: And then la cournelion to survive.

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Speaker 8: Under Donald Trump right because they knew they couldn't get

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Speaker 8: their hits, they couldn't sell their books, they couldn't get

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Speaker 8: their clicks right.

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Speaker 5: And forget about politicians.

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Speaker 8: You couldn't get elected if you didn't support Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 8: The idea is you want people who voted for Barack Obama.

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Speaker 5: Seean in Iowa.

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Speaker 8: The reason why Republicans they think that they can win

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Speaker 8: this in the presidential level because Trump can and they're nuts.

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Speaker 8: Even though it's as white as it is, it has

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Speaker 8: the most pivot counties of any state in the country.

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Speaker 8: Thirty one counties voted for Barack Obama not once but

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Speaker 8: twice and then flip to Donald Trump, not once but twice.

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Speaker 8: The entire eastern part of the state outside of the

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Speaker 8: eastern cities, you know, which is really only two counties

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Speaker 8: to bide him one over there all flip to Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: I mean that's that's people you don't want it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly right. It's it's one hundred percent right.

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Speaker 1: You went through a dished and not traction. So Rich, Okay,

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Speaker 1: So I've already told people to subscribe to you on locals,

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Speaker 1: and I want to remind everybody to do that. Subscribe

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Speaker 1: to Rich Barris on Locals, follow them on rumbled, People's Pundit,

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Speaker 1: and for those of you, all listen and find them

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Speaker 1: on find them, follow them, subscribe to locals. You can

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Speaker 1: get exclusive access to all this stuff through through all

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Speaker 1: of that. But Rich, anything else you want to add

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Speaker 1: before we pop smoke today.

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Speaker 8: Now, just support the polling if you can. You know

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Speaker 8: you you nailed it. You know people's pun into on

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Speaker 8: locals dot com is the best place to find all

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Speaker 8: of those poles.

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Speaker 5: You'll get them all first.

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Speaker 8: Like you know, locals will add Wisconsin Locals had in

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Speaker 8: Minnesota before the rest of the world did. And we

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Speaker 8: discuss it and talk about it. Yeah, and again thanks

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Speaker 8: for always, you know, as always for having me Sean

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Speaker 8: and people should go check those pulls out, go around

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Speaker 8: on the map like on a little interactive read the interviews,

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Speaker 8: listen to what the people are telling. You are telling

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Speaker 8: all of us, and you know, choose wisely.

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Speaker 2: Awesome, Rich, Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you again real soon. Brother.

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Speaker 5: Thanks brother, talk to you soonhead, Take.

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Speaker 2: Care, take care, all right.

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Speaker 1: Well that's the great and powerful Savage Rich Barris. We

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Speaker 1: got kind of like a.

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Speaker 2: Weekly thing going here with him, and.

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Speaker 1: He's the best in the business. We're glad to have him.

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Speaker 1: again for watching. Up Next is Drew Burkwist on Red

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